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/auds/ Thread #7 Go XLR Edition

Let's discuss our aspirations for VTubing, whether agency-based or something more indie, and help each other grow to hopefully make it as an entertainer. Indies are welcome to join, of course, but try to avoid the common pitfalls that come with being indie.

Stay grounded, but stay hopeful.

Question of the Thread:
Do you have a mama in mind already? Any tips for finding a good artist? Or are you drawing it on your own?

My company handled my art and assets so I didn’t really have a hand in that. I’m lucky to have gotten a really great Japanese artist. Something that surprised me though was that Futakuchi Mana’s mama was LittleThingsPH whose artstyle was always just chibi stuff.

>> No.609508

What should someone do in the 5-minutes “debut” stream that hololive requires for the auditions?
Should I present the lore of my character? Should I show them some particular skill I could use for streaming?

>> No.609708

>>609508
presumably what your standard content would look like when someone tunes into your channel.

>> No.609748

https://twitter.com/TCBNmusic/status/1357151144934469632
Futakuchi Mana's manager seems pretty cool

>> No.609787
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>>609748
He's HERE.

>> No.609804

>>609748
>unless you're from 4chan, whining isn't content
AM I MAKING CONTENT, MORI?
AM I GONNA MAKE IT, BROS?

>> No.609818

>>609787
t-tachibana-sama
I...kneel...

>> No.609865

>>609238
He is touching her legs...
I wish I was Jesus

>> No.609871

>>609508
this might have been a meme but i remember hearing that someone said botan just sent a frag compilation of hers as her audition

>> No.610005

>>609871
>Please record a roughly 5-minute long in-character self-introduction
>lol here's me fraggin' out in Battlefield
>actually makes it in
the application process will never cease to bewilder me

>> No.610022

>>610005
better to show than to tell, as is the same for many entertainment professions, i suppose

>> No.610217

>>610005
i mean if you've seen the siege frag reels she's posted she is still in character so it makes sense

>> No.610535

Elgato Wave 3, thoughts and opinions? i've been looking up XLR mics after looking through the GoXLR, but both would set me back like $700+ together.

>> No.611049 [DELETED] 

>>610535
At2020 XLR and a scarlett solo, no need for a GoXLR.

>> No.611513

>>610535
Just get an AT2020 XLR and a scarlett solo or any single input interface. You don't need the GoXLR. If you get a condenser mic like the at2020 or elgato, make sure to treat your room (gonna link this again: https://www.amazon.com/Sure-Max-Moving-Packing-Blankets-Furniture/dp/B073V5CRQ7).). Condenser mics are sensitive to background noise. If you want the same fx as the GoXLR, run your mic audio through reaper with this: http://sar.audio/
Total price of all of the above is $250. Cheaper if you buy used.

>> No.611568

>>611513
thanks for the links

>> No.611805

Blue Yeti is a completely valid mic choice right?

>> No.612222

>>611513
>condenser mic
I have no idea why streamers and gamers go for condenser mics instead of a good dynamic.
A condenser requires a good acoustic treatment for your recording environment, requires extra stuff like shock mounts and will still be overtly senstive to sounds of keyboard and mouse around you even if you're using a cardioid pattern.
Meanwhile a high end dynamic like a Shure SM-58 will require at best a wind-screen, will only pick the sound immediatly in front of it, doesn't require treating your room and it costs the same as a lower-end condenser while sounding good enough for most radio and TV stations, churches, live concerts and studio recordings world-wide.
Also, it's rugged enough that it'll literally survive being run over by a truck, serve as substitute a for a hammer if you need to hit some nails, and will still work and serve you for a life time.

>> No.612595

does it even matter to make a character if a corp will make one for me? that shit costs money

>> No.612627

>>612595
nope, just start your stream and make some content. even if it's just a pngtuber placeholder.

>> No.612801

>>612595
There's probably free 2D and (if you spent like 800USD on all the motion sensor stuff) 3D models you can use online, maybe some helpful Anon will post a link

>> No.612903

>>612222
Assuming you do some amount of acoustic setup, it's good for if you're trying to be a singtuber

>> No.613130

>>612595
i mean, when do you plan on getting accepted into hololive?
now if you're talking like how much you want to dump into making stuff for your character that's just up to you and if you want to do this more a reason bigger than "be a part of hololive" because then i guess if you really don't want to invest that much effort you could just make a 3D in vroid or something

>> No.613190

>>610535
That’s what I’m using! It comes with Elgato Wave Link, which is like a software version of the GoXLR. Really really convenient. Previously I was using a Razer Seiren X and boy was that a bit of a waste.

>> No.613234

>>612595
Just get V-Roid studio and use Youtube tutorials on how to customize models. Then use VSeeFace for webcam-based motion tracking - there, free 3D V-tubing.

>> No.613654

>>613130
i have a character idea i really like, i dont think id actually get accepted, but i want to put quality into it that i feel only a corp would do, idk tho, im not a good artist us all and i want it to turn out well

>> No.613687

>>613654
apply blank, go indie if you get rejected

>> No.614733

>>613654
Do remember that Hololive is not the end-all-be-all! Don’t expect to get into Hollywood on your first try, there are many other smaller agencies.

>> No.614785

>>613654
Anon, I don't want to be an asshole but bear with me and my jaded boomer ass for a few seconds, okay?
Hololive has 5 spots available and A LOT of people who have a load of talent AND more importantly experience (i.e. have shown that they have bee doing their reps getting shit done) applying for it - there's no guarantee you'll get it, nor that they'd take your idea (especially when they have full control over the IP of the characters all the way since Gen 1).
If you want to get into it then stop planning and start doing. Perfectionism is the enemy of getting shit done, so just fucking start in order to build the skills that will help you get through an audience.
First you'll get a feel if you really like the idea of being a streamer and the grind that comes with it or you're just infatuated with the idea of being one. It's good to find out that early before you made a big investment.
Then you'll start soon learning the most important skill you can get for this situation: entertaining an audience. It'll take a lot of trial and error to do so.
For everything, you can incrementaly work on it. Japanese Vtubers start with just being regular streamers without a cam until they can get some decent artwork that they make a static pngs of the models they want to get; or they get a barely-customized stock V-Roid models until they can save enough money to comission a good model/live2d rigging. They stream on potato laptops with shitty layouts and even then they can build a core loyal audience that's there for who they are or what they can offer. When they they reach subscriber milestones (10, 25, 50, 100), upgrade from their crappy integrated mic to a decent mic, get a decent PC, get a good live 2D or 3D model, etc. ... it's a celebration for everybody, for the streamers and the viewers, and makes everybody feel good.
Last, no matter how well you prepare, unless you have a load of cash to burn AND experience into audio-visual production AND experience in entertaining and audience, you'll have an awkward phase and hundreds of crappy videos to get out before you can start putting out quality content. So start your reps now.

>> No.615355

>>614785
Not that anon but thank you for the advice. "I need the best equipment before I do my reps" is a sentiment i see in the drawing community as well.

>> No.615396

Once again to tell you all: good luck, and godspeed, genuinely hope you make it

>> No.615760

>>614785
honestly i dont even know what i want anymore
i always try to do everything but focus what im actually good at, making music
i tried getting into film, drawing, ect and i always drop it quickly and write more music but never record a good take and make it
vtubing us another one if those ventures, i guess its get a following quick schemes.
just ignore me, streamings not my passion, its just something that seems cool that could be part if my music, but without much mysic actually made, its just a distraction

>> No.616082

>>615760
I think it's good that you're coming to this realization, anon. Whatever you end up doing, I hope you're successful.

>> No.618044

>>611805
yes

>> No.620238

Anyone knows about any program that could let you use your android phone as a mic? I don't wanna use my shitty laptop mic and I can't buy anything at the moment (3rd world problems), but I still have everything else to start experimenting. I even rigged a Live2d model.
Anyway, I hope you can help me with this request.

>> No.620565

>>620238
From quick googling there seems to be multiple apps for this, WO Mic got recommend a couple of times but there seems to be no real consensus.

>> No.620597

>>609804
On 4chan your (You)s are your views. I'll give you a pity one like I give indies a pity watch, but now you're gonna need to get them on your own.

>> No.620914

@ everyone in this thread who thinks they need good equipment before they start.

I'm an EN indie and I dropped a small fortune to upgrade my setup. PC, Mic, new webcam, commissions etc. I've pretty much already made the overhead back by now (except for my PC, but that was an investment that was a long time coming anyway vtubing aside)

Stop thinking and waiting for "the right opportunity".

just do it lol

>> No.624568

>>609238
>Do you have a mama in mind already? Any tips for finding a good artist? Or are you drawing it on your own?
There's a metric fuckload of artists all over the place, it's hard not to find one, though I can also draw my own as I already have for other people.
If I got into Hololive though, I'd ask for Yusuke Kozaki or Kinu Nishimura, those two are responsible for the visuals of some of my favorite games.

>> No.624625

>>620914
>just do it lol
I would if RTX 3080's weren't fucking out of stock literally everywhere

>> No.624688
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624688

Do you guys have any rigger recommends that specialize in XYZ head movement? I feel like any rigger asking for anything under 800 bucks are horrible at head turning.
At this point I'm coming to terms with the fact that I might just have to drop a grand just for acceptable animation.

>> No.624747

>>624688
Perhaps this one?
https://twitter.com/dannayy5

>> No.624780

>>624747
Perfect. Thank you anon. Any idea how much they charge?

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>>624780
I know them from the second Woohoolad debut stream, the original fiverr artist for his Live2D model takes for an unrigged Live2D ready character around $160, so I guess the rigger wouldn't take that much as well

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>>624851
Wrong screenshot

>> No.624872

>>624851
So much more reasonable. I thought id have to give in and get a IV rig. Thanks boss

>> No.624990

>>624869
>>624851
but doesn't he use a 3D model?
can Live2D rig 3D models?

>> No.625031

>>624990
no

>> No.625159

>>624990
He used before the 3D debut a Live2d model

>> No.625197

>>624990
it looks like he lists a separate 2d and 3d papa/mama so he probably has both? I don't watch the guy so I wouldn't know how his 2d looks though

>> No.625250

>>620914
How did you get your first couple of viewers? Did you advertise here or on Twitter?

>> No.625404

>>624625
I stream with 16GB ram and 1070 GTX from like five years ago, don’t be greedy.

>> No.626166

so the audition can just be whatever you think you wanna show off I guess? and then the hard part is acing the interview if you actually get it or something?

>> No.626524

>Do you have a mama in mind already? Any tips for finding a good artist? Or are you drawing it on your own?
The first person i had in mind for being my mama was a close friend who had to back out of doing it, so I looked around the commission tag on twitter for an artist whose style I liked. The artist had single digit followers on twitter but I then found they had more of a following on fiverr so really you just gotta dig deep around if you're not looking for a well known popular artist
as for my rigging mama, they had a fairly big following but i messaged them about live2d comms pretty early on when they opened comms so I got a slot. i'm pretty satisfied with the outcome of the model overall

>> No.627509

>>620565
About that, I tried it, but it's really wonky; cuts the audio every now and then, sounds robotic often and has a delay, too.
Maybe it was a problem of the version I used. I'll try it again with this new one.

>> No.627711

Wait a second, do you fags use a voice changing program to sound like a girl?

>> No.627782

>>627711
there are a bunch of people that do, usually guys committing to being an anime girl
personally I'm a dude playing a dude so I don't have a reason to use a voice changer

>> No.627792

>>627782
I want to become the little 2D girl, what program do I use to sound cute?

>> No.627834

>>624625
I used to stream using 4GB RAM a Sandy Bridge i5 and a 8800 GT in 720p back in 2012
Just pick games with lower requirements and a lower intensity so more modest bitrate/fps settings are feasible and stick to it until you can upgrade.

>> No.627836

>>620565
>>627509
Also, it's a chinese program that keeps on running on both your android and pc even when you stop using them.
That was probably why I never tried it again.

>> No.627888

I can't seem to retain viewers. I've been doing this for about 4 weeks and have gained a few followers here and there, and every stream gets anywhere from 5-10 unique viewers, but nobody stays despite me leaving almost zero dead air and interacting with chat etc. Not sure what do differently. Are the first few just luck? More shilling?

>> No.628030

>>627792
Honestly despite knowing that purple use voice changing programs, I've never actually looked into what those programs are, though I'm sure there are anons here that do know

>> No.628102

>>627888
Post your avatar and voice.

>> No.628144

>>627888
don't hope for followers to only come from streams, make youtube vids, post shit on reddit&twitter. These are alternative ways to remind ppl you exist and maybe make them consider "hey maybe i should see how hes doing"
Interact with your followers, ask them what they want to see, do that.

>> No.628186

People talk a lot about voice changers but all the ones that are free are garbage quality that's so obviously a voice changer. The ones that aren't free are just an expensive version of the garbage quality that you get scammed into paying for it. They don't exist.

>> No.628227

>>628144
This. Uploading highlights or entire VODS if they're short is basically free advertising since everyone following you on twitch can just hit the subscribe button on youtube and keep up with your new content, and at the same time you'll get more viewers through the YT algorithm. I know I've found a lot of small channels like that not necessarily vtuber related.

>> No.628364

/cgl/ for vtubers.

>> No.628487

>>628364
/cgl/ is just /r9k/ with frills.

>> No.628522

>>628227
>>628144
>>627888
TikTok has been really good for a quick boost in viewers. Izzimouse got hundreds of concurrent watchers from becoming semi-famous there.

>> No.628666
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628666

https://twitter.com/XaydnRixioj/status/1358785896800165888

Well friends, I may not have garnered the followers I wanted but you know what that is ok. The show must go on. I will be debuting my PNG on the Feb 20th for a 12 hour Stream Starting at 11am PST

https://www.twitch.tv/xaydn_rixioj

>> No.628886

>>627888
Anon, that seems perfectly normal and acceptable for 4 weeks. Building an audience is a grind. Follow the other anon's advice and get your name out there with clips and some self-advertising.

>>628186
Get voicemod and make a custom voice for yourself, fiddle with settings until you find something acceptable.
Combine it with voicemeeter potato for maximum effectiveness:
Video on how to set it up:
>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVLcX2o4naE
Use it until you can upgrade to a good paid program.
If you are using it to make yourself sound like the opposite gender, accept that there's no magic solution and even the best paid programs will sound artificial at times no matter how good they are - even the good ones like at it like Tomari Mari and others still sound weird every now and then, because every now and then the voice changer will have to hit hard the lower notes and will make the high notes in ther voice even high.
Also, there's a bigger difference than just pitch when men and women speak, changes in speech pattern, expressions and behavior all play into it. If you want to be a cute anime girl, the acting part of voice acting is very important.

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>>628666
anon, the game is only 1/3rd of your actual screen what is you doing? why is there so much dead and empty space?

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>>628666
>https://twitter.com/XaydnRixioj/status/1358785896800165888
I like your waiting screen, the idea of a 1920s esque vtuber is cool but then the transition into the game play itself was a bit disjointed theme wise. Your overlay also has too much dead space. Look at Korones stuff, it doesnt have to be too complicated, the focus is on you and the game play. Look at Skullgirls menu to get an idea of how you should be theming your overlay (art deco + old hollywood). Either way its a learning process and if you keep at it, you'll get better. good luck bro

>> No.631039

if you have no chat, dedicating a large block of your stage to showcasing your lack of chat might not be the play you want to make

>> No.631482

>>625404
>>627834
oh believe me, what I have now is more than enough to run the games I play the most
I just want the upgrade for the few outliers like VR games or the occasional GPU hog

>> No.631512

>>631482
also future-proofing

>> No.631602

>>631482
Then just start streaming the games you play the most, and save the GPU hogs and VR stuff for when you can actually get your hands on a powerhouse GPU.
Do your reps.

>> No.631652

>>631602
I've been doing that.
I'm a gaming and tech enthusiast so I just like to keep up to some degree

>> No.631759

I hope none of you losers make it. If I've learnt anything from the five years I've been on this site it's that 90% of you are incredibly lazy and undisciplined. If you are the 10% who are actually doing their reps I wish you the best.
If you're going to half ass an audition with no actual skills and no prior streaming experience you should feel guilty for wasting Covers time.

>> No.631822

>>631759
>I hope NONE of you make it
>okay I hope some of you make it :)
great post

>> No.632174

>>631822
>Some of you guys are alright, don't stream as a vtuber tomorrow

>> No.632699
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632699

I don’t even want to become a vtuber I just want to stream so I have an excuse to play weird games, but don’t even know where to start

>> No.632734

>>632699
twitch.tv

>> No.632736

>>632699
OBS + twitch channel

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632832

Would it be weird to ask a prominent loli artist to design my character? It's not even about the memes I just really like their artstyle.

>> No.632849

>>632699
build a following on youtube by making videos then move to twitch
Twitch's structure really fucks over anyone who tries to start there from scratch, let alone someone who tries to variety stream.

>> No.633028

>>632832
yes, it'd be weird. if they're "prominent" they probably won't let you commish a piece to use as a vtuber avatar anyway.

>> No.633133

>>632849
Can confirm. Hit Twitch partner and its kinda hard to get yourself off the ground unless you make a LOT of connections for raids and hosting with other channels for good exposure.

And dont let getting to Twitch partner fool you, the EN vtuber community will help, but I've seen plenty of partnered vtubers with 1-5 viewers into a 2-3 hour stream.

>> No.633701

>>632699
if you just want an excuse to stream and play weird games just do it
if you want to get into the more content creation side you could always stream on a streaming platform and if you want to make like more consumable content for viewers you can always make like highlight reels of your streams

>> No.634180

>>610005
Well she was also a known fps streamer beforehand as well.

>> No.634210

>>633133
do you mean Affiliate?
you need like 75 average viewers to become a Partner

>> No.634642

been hearing some fucked up stuff about branding ownership if you go affiliate on twitch. things like being forced to be twitch exclusive, twitch owns your branding and can use you + your likeness in their advertisements, etc.

>> No.634722

>>634642
I don't know about all that.
That probably applies more to their Partners. They really don't care about their Affiliates

>> No.635070

>>634642
i heard that if you take affiliate that it can also hit your growth because of preroll ads or something which pushes a lot of people away so if you don't need that title it might be better to not apply for it

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>>609238
As someone with a bit of disposable income what would be the best way to go about commissioning a complete avatar setup? Are there already professionals out there who can manage this sort of thing or would it be better to set it up on my own? I'd even be willing to sponsor other peoples' avatars just to have a crew I could collab with.

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635245

I was thinking of being a hotblooded motivating gutsy chuuba

Art for the avatar would be inspired by Shimamoto Kazuhiko and Go Nagai

I'll draw it myself...

>> No.635266

>>635208
check twitter for live2d artists, they're always a bunch of people tweeting and retweeting each other when commission slots open up. they've almost always go portfolios and examples so you can see if their style suits your needs.

rinse and repeat for riggers, but know that many of the skilled live2D riggers are currently waitlisted due to the massive demand.

>> No.635426

>>634642
>been hearing
Instead of hearing just read the affiliate and partner FAQs:
>>https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/twitch-affiliate-program-faq?language=en_US
>>https://www.twitch.tv/p/partners/faq/
The affiliate agreement is also public:
>>https://www.twitch.tv/p/legal/affiliate-agreement/
Long short story:
- Pretty much every website needs the rights to redistribute your content (i.e. transfer the data over the internet) so every fucking website has rights enough rights for that.
- Pretty much every website you post will reserve the rights to use your content and branding for advertisement. If Twitch wanted they could plaster Ninja's face in ads and say that "twitch is the website of choice of Ninja" and ninja could do fuck all about it unles he is really willing to take the fight to court (and not lose). Same for Youtube, they already did it with Youtube Rewind, for example. Flickr and Instagram also have the rights to use users' pictures for advertisement (and have done so, mostly with landscapes and pictures of landmarks, tourist spots, etc.)
- When you become an affiliate you agree to not simulcast on Twitch and other website, you can finish your stream and immediatly start streaming on YT, for example, but can't do it at the same time.
- You agree to not upload your VoDs to any other website for 24 hours after your broadcast ends.
- Partners usually sign exclusivity agreements, partner terms are however negotiated on an individual basis.

>> No.636114

>>635245
Can you play a hot blooded character without being annoying or coming off as having anger issues?

>> No.636197

would it be a good idea to stream as a guy with a traffic cone head playing rts games or is that already taken?

>> No.636209

>>636197
iono about whether it's a "good idea" but i can't think of any other vtuber whose avatar looks like that

>> No.636640

>>636114
I can try...

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>>636197
The biggest challeng would be the lack of facial expressions - still, if the two in pic related can make it work, why not?

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you could literally just slap a face on an inanimate object and make it work

>> No.637294

>>636640
Not the person you were talking to, but here's a hint, escalate only to a specific degree. After almost any conversation reaches a certain point, it becomes uncomfortable. Apologies are great, but not too many, i.e. "Forgive me, I hadn't realized." and then drop it and consider it done once they accept. Shift attention after outburst.

Also got to let the situation die out very quickly, defusal is a must.

>> No.639071

>>636197
>>637264
in my time on twitter so far i've seen a guy with a tv head, a cardboard box, some guy made of whipped cream, a bird, a dog, and some other weird stuff
i haven't seen a traffic cone though but yeah you can really just slap a face onto anything and have it work

>> No.639401

Do you think Cover would give me a chance if I don't have streaming experience but have content creation history like art?

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>>639401
Nah, no precedent for anything like that
Actually I think her roommate did drawstreams so I guess it doesn't quite count

>> No.639570

>>639401
might be a minor debuff, since they're looking for an entertainer whose main form of communication will be through livestreams, but you've got a couple of weeks to toss something together. clip together a 5 minute montage or highlights and submit it as your audition tape.

>> No.639605

>>639490
her roommate did stream though i'm not sure how long she streamed for but she also had an established following

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>>639570
Hmm I'm not too hopeful to actually make it in, but I was wondering if I could show enough potential to get a callback through just audio (I basically just did a character monologue) because I'm curious what the process is like.

>> No.639799

>>639697
the way i see it, with only so many slots open compared to how huge the hopefuls are, it's already gonna be very difficult to get in. so it's not like you've got anything to lose, you know?

>> No.641226
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Hey hopefuls. Usually I try to be positive and encouraging but this time I'd like to help ground some people.

Applying to Hololive is completely fine and good but I've been seeing a lot of people wondering if they'll make it. Do understand that if you're in this thread and asking, then [You most likely will not make the cut for HoloEN2.]

They're looking for established content creators with a productive track record. People that are already successful and marketable without them having to take a huge gamble. [If you're in the position to pass the HoloEN2 auditions, you already know you have a chance.]

I'm not saying you shouldn't apply, but rather, apply and think of this as your practice round. If you make it to stage 2 auds, then good. You're on the right track. For most? This is a taste of how the audition cycle works. You don't wait for it. You apply and forget.

[HoloEN2 shouldn't be your goal] but rather it should kick off your training like NijiEN did for me.

Think of this as the start of your VTubing career, not the finish line.

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641524

how many en gens do y’all think cover is gonna produce?
i wanna audition at some point but i’m too young and have no experience

>> No.641596

>>641524
first off, gtfo out of 4chan, this place is a fucking cesspool
second, you have from now until you're able to apply to start making content.

>> No.642137

>>641226
considering i only started a week ago, i went in knowing that i wouldn't have a chance at any auditions anytime soon realistically.
but i know that, maybe half a year to a year from now if i do my reps i should have enough content to be able to at least content with other applicants.
i agree that this should be seen as a starting line

>> No.644807

>>641226
good thing i already create content then
i'm still riding on the chance that they'll want what I'm providing though, something thats a bit more prominent in the western streaming world that Hololive doesn't have yet, but also as a chance to become one of the first EN male holos.

>> No.645084

>>641226
Calli is the only person in HoloEN to use her previous history of content as the basis for her current content, so the thing about not wanting to take huge gambles is a pretty massive farce. More than anything they're looking for someone with a history of consistent work and the right attitude that fits what they want Hololive to be about.

>> No.645600

>>639071
might try it then, if ever i get money to comission a .png of him and figure out how streaming works

>> No.645808

>>639071
Don't forget someone whose soul was put into a literal mug!

>> No.645814

>>639071
A guy made of whip cream lmfao

>> No.645843

>>645808
Found him
https://www.youtube.com/user/kmuf

>> No.645922

>>645808
>>645843
instant sub
any other small EN indies you guys recommend?

>> No.646152

>>645922
Sorry for the late reply, this is just on the top of my head

Rabbit Sensei
Corpse Ch
Junii Ch Hedgeboi (just look at this https://twitter.com/juniichannel/status/1341052718664871936))
Comrade Del

>> No.646196

>>639071
I like the fishbowl-headed knight!

>> No.646208

Daily reminder that I believe in all of you, and hope you succeed, and enjoy what you do! Good luck

>> No.646209

>>645922
https://www.youtube.com/c/ABunnyVTuber/videos

>> No.646276

Does anyone here have an opinion on the Mirabox passthrough capture card?
https://www.amazon.com/Mirabox-Passthrough-Nintendo-Streaming-Recording/dp/B08QJ84JNP/

>> No.646563

>>646208
I know that you're lying but thanks for the post.

>> No.647160

>>645922
literally check /wvt/ pastebin.
otherwise check ninaninin on twitch.

>> No.647565

>>627888
How long are you streaming? If you're streaming for 4 hours and only 1 hour of the VOD is enjoyable consider cutting back on how much you stream as those 3 hours of bad content will leave a negative impression on viewers.

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648929

Hey! After a week's break, I'll be streaming in 10 minutes. Unlike any of the other streams, there are no tips this time. Now that the thread's gotten much more active and we have lots of regular posters, I'd like to focus on my own growth.

Please give me advice and share any tips that you have while and after you watch. I'm trying to focus on two things in particular: my voice and my ability to hold your interest.

I can speak fairly well and fairly consistently, but I'm not sure if my voice sounds too deep, too tryhard, too etc. And I know I don't have any dead air since I'm talking a lot but I don't know if it'll hold your interest when I'm no longer talking about VTubing tips.

Stream starts 10 minutes from now, you can watch here:
https://www.twitch.tv/closetfujoshi

As usual, this will be a practice stream. Nothing more, nothing less. I'll be doing it daily until my manager says it's time to prepare for debut. I'm using a throwaway channel as well as a free character model that you can find on the Live2D website. It'll likely be deleted as soon as it serves its purpose.
Thanks!

>> No.649179

>>648929
Hahahaha idol hopeful was a tranny all along oh my god of course

>> No.649260

>>649179
What makes you think so? Is my voice? I thought my voice sounded fine.

>> No.649270

>>649260
Your obvious tranny voice lmao

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>>641226
If you don't mind, I would like to make a suggestion: when you make new /aud/ threads, mention that they need to be established content creators to be accepted so they don't lose their hope if/when they get rejected. https://en.hololive.tv/audition
From the hololive audition guidelines:
"You must be able to deliver content continuously for at least one year.
You must be able to deliver content at least 3 times a week (content provided after getting home or on your days off while you're studying or working is fine).
You have a proven track record for content distribution (including, but not limited to, games, songs, and illustrations).
You must be 18 years of age or older."

>> No.649392

>>649260
Tbh can't tell if tranny or dyke

>> No.649411

>>648929
Thank you for this stream, now I know not to listen to anything that comes out of your tranny mouth.

>> No.649541

>>649392
Prob just dyke since they got hired by a company, I don't think any companies would bother with trannies lmao

>> No.649561

>>649541
Anon...

>> No.649571

>>649392
It sounds just like a smoother towa desu, when she was speaking nip it sounded like Towa without that strange shrill whine twappers has in the back of her voice

>> No.649593

>>649541
I watched the stream more, definitely a tranny.
You can tell by the vocal timbre

>> No.649633

>>649571
Nope. Sounded like a man. Towa has a deep voice but definitely female.

Pitch=/=gender
It's easy to tell

>> No.649640

>tripfag turns out to be trans
Wow I'm shocked.

>> No.649661

>>627792
unironically >>>/lgbt/19007822

>> No.649689

>>649640
Alright, now let's hijack the thread and be our own OP

>> No.649774

>>645922
Check the /wvt/ threads for people like Nina, Koopa, Africat/Rose, etc.

>> No.649810

I always worry about the "tranny" obsession here sometimes, I have trans friends and they sound nothing like them. But aside from a few bad people who happened to be trans I don't know why some anons seem them as this boogyman.

>> No.649880

>>649810
Because it's easy to spot trannies by voice and I'd rather not a big content creator get constantly harassed for something like that and bring political controversy to hololive.

>> No.649910

>>649810
It's just funny that it's always trannies. I don't care about the OP and will never watch him but him being a dude is hilarious.

>> No.650246

>complaining about sexualization in atelier
Bro, you have to stop being a stereotype.

>> No.650366

Even if you were to get accepted by a company, you need to be able to deal with rejection. Things aren't always going to work out, you're going to have to make some compromises. You need to be adaptable enough to keep trying in spite of failure if you want to succeed.
As for what companies want in an ideal auditionee, they want experience, they want stamina, they want a proven track record, sure. But they also want personality, originality, and skills that are entertaining beyond just streaming.
Audition video requirements vary from company to company, but there's no limit to how much you can show off your talents in them. Write and act out a scenario, like that one Nijisanji girl who acted as a cat in her video. Incorporate your own artwork into the video however works best for you. Create your own BGM or character song. Include the best highlights of your own streams, or whatever other projects you've been working on. Whatever you're good at, you can make it work.
It's true that if you don't already have the skills, experience and personality, you probably aren't going to make the Hololive auditions. However, you need to realise that you do already have a lot of skills, experience and personality that will make you succeed. That attitude is important, I believe.

>> No.650434

>This isn't text to speech
I wish it was.

>> No.650789

>>650246
sorry this is your brain on hrt please andstnd

>> No.650920

I'm from /auds/ and you're fucking cringe, my dude.

>> No.651003

Already recorded all of this so good luck escaping your 4chan connection.

>> No.651023

>>650920
>>651003

he is a wonderful person. essentially this whole thread being a self-fellatio to his own ego because he got into some forgotten twitter company with zero reach and budget.

>> No.651087

>>651023
The delusion of this dude is hilarious.
>asked some nobody "company" to get him a model from hidari
This was honestly enlightening to watch. Please, don't listen to what this person has to say. He's not going to get you anywhere in this business.

>> No.651112

>>649179
>>649270
>>649392
>>649411
>>649541
>>649633
>>649640
Damn, you people are so cringe.

>> No.651199

>>651112
You forgot your trip.

>> No.651317

>>651087
>He's not going to get you anywhere in this business.
Are you?

>> No.651324

>>651317
Already have.

>> No.651340

Hey-yo! That was a good practice stream actually. I had more planned but that's likely how it ends for now. I got distracted by the Atelier talk. The feedback wasn't too useful today, but I was able to rave on and on about my favourite game series so I enjoyed it.

Everyone knows no thread lasts without its issues on 4chan, but /auds/ had a good run. I'm sure someone else will continue it with my stead so good luck to all the agency hopefuls that'll still come by.

As I said earlier, my knowledge has run dry, and I don't think /auds/ can provide me with much more advice. So it's time to say goodbye!

Thanks for anyone that stopped by to come chat and watch. So long and thanks for all the fish~

>> No.651397

>>651199
Anon, I know this is hard to believe, but I just genuinely think you're fucking cringe.

Seu corno com sem graça.

>> No.651411

>>651340
You're just running away like a coward with those excuses! Come back and fight like a man!

>> No.651435

>>651340
Oi, don't back out of responsibility now that the jug is up. You still gotta man these threads when the fun dies.

>> No.651459

>>651324
Thank you, please keep running /auds/ from now on then

>> No.651476

>>651340
Good luck making it, dude. Just don't even pretend to be a real woman and you'll be fine.

>> No.651487

>>651087
People just dont understand. Companies with actual backing can spend A LOT money on a good model.Spending 2k vs 10k with your ROI being 100%+ is a no brainer if you are actually talented. You buy a model for 10k, pay a basic salary of what, lets say 2k usd (+ share of SC) and if you get a good gachikoi or two you make that back day 1. If you do your auditions/headhunting well, your marketing is up to scratch, risk is low.

>>651340
Nothing of value has been lost. I assure you your ego-trip will haunt you as you will debut in your new company/avatar and someone will put the VODs on display to show who you were before guaranteeing a PR crysis for your new establishment. This thread could never provide you with anything valuable because this was all an ego-trip.A search for self-verification and that feel-good feeling of being better than others. Good luck, you will need it.

>> No.651546

>>651459
I'm good, a thread like this really shouldn't even exist on 4chan.

>> No.651645

A good general dies just like that

>> No.651677

>>651645
guy got butthurt

>> No.651704

Well, that was fun. Now wvt can go back to jerking each other off and no one learns anything.

>> No.651715

>>651487
Cancel culture on my /vt/? It's more likely than you think.

Stop being an outraged faggot.

>> No.651742

>>651715
He literally said he doesn't give a shit about this place and only used us for quick advice and to boost his ego.

>> No.651782

>>651742
>Seeking advice
>Boosting ego
Surely these sorta contradict.

>> No.651783

>wvt chased away an industry insider that's been giving valuable advice for a month
I don't give a shit whether hopeful was a guy or a girl but ishygddt. What a waste of a connection.

>> No.651823

>>651783
Because it didn't sound like an Anime dub female so it had to be a tranny

>> No.651850

>>651783
>an industry insider
My guy, being in a tiny twitter "agency" is not being an industry insider.

>> No.651874

>>651850
Were you there at the start of these threads? I was.

>> No.651893

>>651874
>I believe everything I read from a tripfag

>> No.651894

>>651850
Oh boy I sure what would be more useful:
>More ceaseless faggotry and shitposting
>Some potentially worthwhile advice from someone in an agency, however small
Shit justification sempai

>> No.651935

>>651894
It's not useful advice. This person has no streaming experience or knowledge of being a Vtuber. Being in an "agency" doesn't mean shit. Did you even watch his stream?

>> No.651947

>>651850
Being an industry insider pretty much means you work for either Holo or Niji, in the west I think Tsunderia is the biggest. Eventually you are a successful indie, but that's outside of the discussion here. There is tens if not hundreds "0 budget" startups or vtubing groups now on the internet.

>> No.651948

>>651894
OP was streaming for two years. Did you watch any of the other streams?

>> No.651973

>>651947
Which is why he wasn't an industry insider lmao.

>> No.652008

>>651948
Yet he's still trash at it. It's telling that he freaked out over having more than 10 viewers after 2 years of streaming. Also, put your trip back on.

>> No.652009

>>651973
Are you butthurt about someone achieving their dreams and not you? Turns out the people most obsessed about trannies are closeted faggots

>> No.652046

>>651783
Frankly, the response there is about what I'd expect. Not that people weren't being dumbasses, but from the start you should know well enough that trying to justify yourself to the type of people who will call you a tranny immediately won't help anything.

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>>652009
No, I'm not. I'm laughing at all of you taking advice from someone that can't achieve success on their own. It took me 2 months to get here.

>> No.652069

>>652047
You seem levelheaded, too bad you probably dont want to shill yourself.

>> No.652078

>>652047
>>651324
ahahahahaha he calls that success, he says he made it

>> No.652103

>>652078
that's like top 1% of twitch my dude..

>> No.652108

>>651742
Please andarstand anon-kun that you are just an ill-read moron who's seething at the mouth right now because you're a faggot who does realize that Idol hopeful genuinely helped people on here with knowledge, basic knowledge, but knowledge nonetheless.

Get over your ever seeking need for a culture war and learn to use a thread to help both yourself and others when possible. You dumb fucking faggots literally cucked from decent advice yourself because you had the desire to own the trans.


If Idol Hopeful is still reading this my advice to her is to use some heavy voice modulation to make yourself sound like a robot or some type of alien or something so these fags can't get to you, or it's for you to go full in on voice work 3 hours a day and you're voice will completely change and sound more natural by the time you reincarnate.

>> No.652134

>>652078
Damn, you need to check your expectations if you think you will get further in 2 months.

>> No.652291

What the fuck did I miss? Doesn't she start her stream around this time?

>> No.652292

>>651894
>>Some potentially worthwhile advice from someone in an agency, however small
Literally all of the "advice" I've ever seen ITT, be it from the tripfag or random posters, was generic enough that literally anyone could have written it, streaming experience or not.
>Here's ideas on how to make your audio better!
>Here's generic business/job application advice framed in the context of vtubing!
>Here's some things X and Y streamers do and they seem to do well!
This whole "muh industry insider" thing makes it seem like it's data coming from someone who has sincere, strong connections with people who've got significant numbers (4, 5- figure sub counts, several hundred to several thousand views on active streams, etc.), when in reality it's a fraction of that. There are normalfag twitch streamers who have better numbers and who do "here's how I did it" type streams/chats aplenty.

>> No.652331

>>652291
You miss it and now one Anon is moaning about their voice

>> No.652361

>>652291
/wvt/ happened. we lost her, champ

>> No.652388

>>652361
>>652291
>her

>> No.652407

Yikes. /auds/ tourists.

>> No.652416

>>652108
Does she really need modulation? There were like 20 people total, can't be more than 2 or 3 of the fags. And what's the worst they'll do?
"Oh I'm gonna tell everyone you were on 4chan!!!!!"?
No one gives a shit.
"She was mean to 4chan after they called her a slur!!!"
Now she's the GOOD guy in most people's eyes

>> No.652447

>>652416
>mean to 4chan
As far as I saw she only offered advice and talked about things and then bounced when people started flinging out slurs.

>> No.652460

>>652407
Sorry you expected this to be a tranny hugbox.

>> No.652519

A bit confused isn't holoEn gen 2 another female gen. Is everyone applying in this thread a chick or tranny?

>> No.652578

>>652447
She shit on /wvt/ at the end for a bit, even if understandably so. I wouldn't try to spin the thread as the victim mind you, but if a /pol/tard tries to use the vod out of spite you know they will.

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>>651340

>> No.652696

>>652519
I can't speak for everyone here, but for me, I wasn't ever really here to specifically apply for Hololive (or a theoretical HolostarsEN, or Niji, or any other actual agency), I was just here to get simple streaming ideas and advice from fellow virtual anime youtuber fans

>> No.652841

>>652447
I mean, in a way dealing with people like that is good practice because soon as you are on the map in any capacity theres going to be antis attacking. So sticking it out and managing the crazies might be the best way to go.

>> No.652894

>>652841
He will never debut to a large audience.

>> No.652906

>>652696
My impression is everyone just wants to go indie, or start their own thing with friends. Not everyone wants to try joining the big companies immediately. I don't think I could deal with all the extra BS that'd be involved personally.

>> No.652945

>>652894
What’s got your panties in a bunch? Hopeful rape your mom or something?

>> No.653053

>>652945
Yes.

>> No.653073

>>653053
Did she enjoy it?

>> No.653118

>>652578
wvt feedback was on point, he didn't deal with the feedback well though.

>> No.653239

times like these make me wish we could moderate our own threads. faggots from wvt chased away the person keeping shit going well here, tranny or not

>> No.653417

>>653239
Trip back on, tranny.

>> No.653453

>>653239
/wvt/ usually seems like quite a positive thread, I'm not sure why it went so sour?

>> No.653463

>>653417
>You must be self-fagging if you have a problem with me!
Several people here already openly called you out and how you're actively ruining the thread.

>> No.653533

>>653463
You will never be a woman.

>> No.653546

>>653463
Ogey

>> No.653549

>>653453
Mostly because of Hopeful’s voice being deep?

>> No.653639

>>653118
The only good piece of feedback I saw that was actually stream related was about her saying she would be playing a "boring game", because yeah that's not good. And even that post had stuff that, while not AS retarded as the rest was still stupid.
>Why would you stream to try and figure out your vocal ticks?
>Why does the model you said is temporary and free not fit your kayfabe?
The only way you could consider the response there useful is if you go full "negative = true"

>>653453
Honestly? Same. At first I thought it was because she gave the /pol/ posters too much attention, and that doesn't help, but looking back it DOES seem worse than usual. Maybe just bad timing, but still unfortunate.

>> No.653685

>>653549
>deep
No. He's a man, which is not really a problem though. But he shouldn't pretend that he isn't.

>> No.653710

>>653685
You talk as if you’ve seen “his” cock.

>> No.653731

>>653453
/wvt/, both here and on /trash/ is typically pretty supportive of random indies, occasional shitposter aside. I'm pretty sure most peoples issue with this thread is that the "advice" is almost entirely generic, bordering on non-helpful. The quality of their streams also brings in serious question how much they really know. When someone calls themselves an industry insider and tries to lead a thread, people expect high quality and good advice, of which both were in short supply here. The entire thread just felt like the blind leading the blind, while the guy up front pretends to be some beacon of good work.
I think the only real advice I've seen come out of this is the idea that if you can't handle people calling you a tranny nonstop, you probably aren't going to go far as a streamer. Dealing with criticism and hate is unavoidable, and going AWOL is not the solution

>> No.653755

>>652519
Joining holo is a pipe dream for everybody but the absolute most charismatic girls with a cute voice.

99 pecent of the thread is indies

>> No.653758

>>653710
I have ears.

>> No.653765

>>653731
>that stream
>awol
did we watch the same thing, anon?

>> No.653802

>>653765
I'm referring to this >>651340
I'm not dumb enough to believe it's a coincidence that they say they're leaving immediately after this shit storm.

>> No.654045

>>652519
I know there are a couple of male vtubers here hoping that they'll eventually open up a StarsEN audition

>> No.654084

>>653731
There isn't particularly a formula to being a vtuber, arguably, just a bit off common sense to follow. And I suppose OPs goal is agency related stuff, at least this thread somewhat served as a way for people to bounce ideas around.

I wouldn't mind it sticking around as a general brainstorming thread, separate to /wvt/

>> No.654126

>>654084
I found the most useful times to be when people posted their WIP models or design ideas and took critique on them.

>> No.654158

>>654084
It was a good thread met with an untimely death.

>> No.654251

>>654126
Just keep doing that. You don't need a tripfag figurehead to make your threads for his ego "I am the real deal, a true industry insider" trip.

>> No.654262

>>653639
I'm the anon who wrote the advice you quoted, so I will spell out to you mr. tripfag why is it a problem even though I did already. You should be thankful I'm spending time on this and as an actual marketing professional I am giving you this advice.

Listen up.

Streaming is entertainment and besides the memorable, clippable moments everyone wants to create live on stream you want to create a meaningful POSITIVE connection with the viewer. That sort of feeling is nurtured by the moderating the tone of language you use and, while the positivite aspects can be different for each, I assure you none wants to be concerned with you studying a negative feature of yourself live on Twitch dot tv. You are mistaking the appeal of accompanying someone on their journey to study and watch people learn new skills live with portraying a negative aspect of yourself immediately at the viewer framing the objective of the stream in a negative light. Words are powerful, use them well.

Second, why the issue with the model and lack of kayfaybe. You are claiming you are doing this stream as a self improvement excercise but your excercise is incomplete as you cherry picked what you will improve on stream. This isn't particularly helpful because when you stream you need to use your complete skillset as a VTuber streamer - you can't just pick what are you going to be today. You can do your individual reps offline, but when the stage is open for you and the lights are on - the mindset should be that its show time! Everything else below that, doing it live, is nurturing a bad attitude to the role you are taking on stage.

You could've went with the flight attendad kayfaybe at least and show you can play the role. I'd be impressed, free model or not.

*NOTE* You don't need to do this so seriously if you are just a hobbyist chuuba - the criticism is only directed at the tripfag because he is an "insider".

Now get your smug face outta here.

>> No.654336

>>652416
Good >guy
Lol

>> No.654347

>>651340
Won't be missed

>> No.654455

>>654045
Do you think a StarsEn would mostly look at indie vtubers or anyone with actual streaming experience?

>> No.654521

>>654262
To piggyback off this idea, when I did music, there was always a strict difference between practices you did at home/behind the curtain and practices on stage. When you practiced on stage you did absolutely everything as if it was the show date, because you wanted to emulate what it would actually be like when it happened. So even if you weren't wearing your dumb tailcoat you still did the motions as if you were. You didn't move or speak. You waited to do anything until the conductor motioned, just like the performance would be. It was important to do a dry run of the real thing and for it to be known to everyone that's what it would be.
I see these sort of practice streams as the same thing. They are dry runs before a real debut, and need to be treated as if it was a real stream. Like you said, a hobbyist doesn't need to do that, but when you call yourself a professional you are expected to act like a professional.

>> No.654538

>>654521
This anon gets it

>> No.654644

>>654455
They will probably look at a mix of both, depending on applicants. They'll probably give a bit of a bonus in approval to people with experience streaming as a vtuber, since hololive does expect their talents to play a character to some extent, and showing you are capable of doing that is always a plus. It would probably only be a small benefit though, not the make it or break it type of thing. Having particularly high levels of skill in things like art, singing, etc, will always be more beneficial than having been a vtuber imo.

>> No.654666

>>654455
They're probably look at both
Considering how EN Gen 1 consisted of 3 members who had experience as vtubers and two that were not its a toss up
also are you saying vtubing doesn't count as actual streaming experience?
>>654084
yeah honestly we've had ops for this made by not hopeful in the past anyway; I think this thread has been a good dedicated spot to just brainstorm ideas and is why i've been here since the first one

>> No.654867

>>654262
>>654521
Not her although I am the anon that told her she should probably not come here for advice if she's going to blow a gasket every time someone calls her tranny (partially because she does in fact sound trans from her speech patterns, although I didn't want to say that before and feed into it) but this is actually better phrased to me. I'll keep this in mind if I ever decide to pursue the chuuba life for some reason.

Also, because the smug comment reminded me, that's also worth mentioning if she's still reading this: While I get being mad at /wvt/ (even though it's nothing you shouldn't have expected), the whole "The ones from /auds/ are my people, if you're from there I basically birthed you" at the end really left a bad taste in my mouth so uh. Probably avoid comments like that in the future. And also just in general try not to go full menhera somewhere more permanent

>> No.655019

>>651340
fuck all the cringelords ITT, thanks for all your help anon

>> No.655109

>>653731
She specifically said multiple times to take her tips with a grain of salt since she’s also a beginner

>> No.655215
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655215

I come here to check out the new /vt/ general that's lasted for 7 threads, a good indicator. Looks like everyone here is a complete newfag for missing one of the basic rules in this site:
Do NOT give attention to tripfaggots. Period.
When I come back here in a few hours I don't want to see any of you talking about your retarded drama or I'll do you-know-what.

>> No.655258

>>655215
>LARPing as an oldfag
lmao

>> No.655260

>>655215
>outing yourself as a tourist
the tripfag was the only one giving advice for the first few threads

>> No.655275

>>655215
Faggot lol

>> No.655300

>>655215
>I'll do you-know-what.
2hu dump?
2hu dump!
Finally the most exciting time of the has come!

>> No.655315

>>655109
Not him, but the problem there is inconsistent messaging/framing.
If the tripfag/op had always and exclusively gone "I'm just a starter too", then it would have been better received, albeit lacking any of the weight or significance justifying tripfagging. As it stands, I repeat what I said at >>652292 , where it's just generic advice from a small indie vtuber. Which is fine, don't get me wrong, it's brainstorming like this that helps people even if it isn't from someone on the inside.
The problem arises when there's undue (i.e. any) significance and "hint hint"-s put on the OP being an "insider", as that naturally suggests a position of authority and insider knowledge one might expect to find that wouldn't be available from just some random person on the internet spitballing very generalized acting advice, as this largely boils down to.
Tl;dr if you can't offer any specific insight from being such, don't claim "industry insider status".

>> No.655420

>>655315
OP never claimed being an insider, did she?

>> No.655464

>>655420
The narrative was kinda... "I passed my audition and I want to help you do too" Though as they likely haven't been officially onboarded yet, calling themselves an insider is a stretch.

>> No.655492

>>647565
>>628886
>>628144
i'm now making it a habit to create one clip per stream minimum, and upload that to my youtube
i appreciate the advice guys, last night in a 2.5 hour stream i gained 2 followers which is an absolute first for just one stream lmfao
chat and i discussed a lot of games at length while i got rekt in the game i was playing
very excite

>> No.655500

>>655464
Yeah I remember that in the first thread. It’s naive to think she can help but it’s honestly inoffensive at worst.

>> No.655806

>>655500
I >>655315 wasn't trying to come across as shitting on them for even trying. Like I acknowledged quite readily, the tips (from them and anons ITT) are all handy enough, and I've seen genuinely useful advice for shit like recording setups, the process of getting an avatar, etc. Like you said, inoffensive, but I just kinda reinforce my point that it's unwarranted tripfaggotry. There's no unique take they offered that I didn't see being said, parroted, or even expanded upon by anons. There's no reason to be identifiable, no reason to highlight oneself, when you can't offer answers that others can just as well. That's all.

>> No.655897

>>653453
/wvt/ has a sour history with Artemis, so this probably caused some ptsd

>> No.655948

>>655897
You might be able to make a case about Artemis because of her speech patterns but >hopeful
I’m not seeing it

>> No.655957

>>653453
>>655897
>newfags

>> No.655982

>>653239
Don't turn /wvt/ into a boogieman.
There are plenty of hololivers looking for someone to shit on and using a trip is placing a target on your head.

>> No.656048

>>655982
I mean, one of the worst things about this board are the /jp/ people who are mortally offended that anyone outside them are allowed to like, or god forbid, be a western vtuber.

>> No.656064

>>655492
>i'm now making it a habit to create one clip per stream minimum, and upload that to my youtube
do you upload your full vods to youtube too? i've been doing that for the sake of archiving but i haven't gone and made clips of anything yet
glad to hear you had a good stream last night though; getting to discuss things with chat is always really fun and those kinds of experiences feel really good after a stream with dead chat
>>654867
>The ones from /auds/ are my people, if you're from there I basically birthed you
i wasn't awake for the stream but she said that?
that's a pretty awful look

>> No.656100

>>656064
Yeah it was pretty obvious she was starting to crack from the pressure

>> No.656159

>>656064
I don't think it was meant THAT seriously, but at the end of the stream yeah.

>> No.656259

>>656064
>The ones from /auds/ are my people, if you're from there I basically birthed you

Shieeeet even kidding that is not something cool to say. Are you guys going to keep this up? She can be your Artemis.

>> No.656420

>>654867
>if you're from there I basically birthed you
m-mommy...

>> No.656429

just filter the t word and you won't have to deal with idiots like the tourist who tried to derail the thread. don't feed the trolls.

>> No.656435

>>655215
>I come here to check out the new /vt/ general that's lasted for 7 threads, a good indicator. Looks like everyone here is a complete newfag for missing one of the basic rules in this site:
>Do NOT give attention to tripfaggots. Period.
do you even know what the function of a trip is faggot

>> No.656560

>>656435
To be added to a filter

>> No.656562

>>656259
I think auds should be laid to rest
This entire event left a sour taste in my mouth

>> No.656640

if anything it just goes to show that no one here can resist taking painfully obvious bait. if you were streaming and that troll waltzed into your chat you'd end up on the next cringe clip of streamers who freaked out live at some viewer.

>> No.656655

>>656562
Well, lets let it die and start something new.
People will want to come here and there is always someone willing to give advice.

>> No.656660

>>656562
So what could a successor be called, /pre debut gen/?

>> No.656735

>>656640
it's a good lesson to learn for other hopefuls
always be positive on stream; the closest you can get to success by taking bait and getting butthurt EVER is being the next DSP and i'm convinced most of his act is pure kayfabe

>> No.656755

>>656660
>>656655
Nothing, really
I might just fuck off and go to my oshi’s threads since hopeful’s gone

>> No.656864

>>656755
Yes but, everyone else will? People will come to this board for advice. They will start new threads until a community is formed once again.
Might as well give them a hand.

>> No.657009

the tourist will come back and derail the thread again making personal attacks and snarky comments towards anyone who shows themselves even at the risk of potential doxxing.

the entire thing was based on "well you're not giving us specific enough information" about an industry almost no one has any actual insider knowledge on because it's so knew. while at the same time conveniently leaving out their own credentials outside of what you can google about the concept of deliberate practice.

plus they only need to drop the t word once and everyone jumps on the bait and the entire thing is derailed. only way this can work is if people stop taking the bait, but that's not gonna happen.

>> No.657037

>>656735
Yeah I second that. That should be rule number one of streaming: never become genuinely upset at the audience.
>DSP
Who is that? I saw these letters before, but I have no idea.

>> No.657106

>>657037
DarksydePhil, a guy who is best known for being comically mentally unstable and reacting extremely poorly to chat goading him. I wouldn't use him as an icon of success though given he's apparently filed for bankruptcy and was banned off twitch

>> No.657219

>>657106
>Oh my GAWD I couldn't even MOOOVE this is BULLshit

>> No.657297

>>609238
What is the usual size for live2D models? Like are they roughly 1000x1500 usually or are the models bigger?

>> No.657507

>>657297
Honestly might be less than that, always seem to lose a ton of fidelity when chuubers zoom in.

>> No.657557

>>657297
Pretty sure there's a 1000x1000 limit unless you want to pay

>> No.658162

lmao you fags actually chased them out
and you talk badly about idolfags and west taiwan

>> No.658169

>>657009
yeah that's more or less why i haven't posted my own twitch or twitter because i don't trust the schizo tourists that pop in the thread every now and then because as much as i'd like the critique from 4chan i don't think its worth it to be able to have my account traced back here

>> No.658245

>>656259
who cares about that? do you really hang on to literally everything a streamer says? if your favorite streamer told their viewers that jumping off of buildings is cool would you do that?

>> No.658254

>>658162
Someone who bailed after being called a tranny by a few shitposters was probably not long for the site

>> No.658262

>>658169
same here. despite what the tourist says, i still think some of the stuff i've seen here has been useful information. even if it's just a bunch of small youtube creators talking about what's worked, what hasn't in their experience. so i'll probably keep checking back in on this thread.

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>>658162
She was going to give up anyway.
Keeping a thread alive is boring as fuck
>>658245
I'll die for INA

>> No.658671

>>658254
thats really too bad, yeah
a few trolls is to be expected desu
just flat out capitulating is a soft move, or should the zoomers say, capped

i expected some more grit from you, tripfriend. you should see how much crap lewdtubers take. imagine their mental state when theyre trying to moan into the mic and they get hundreds of spanish or thai comments saying nothing but obscenities and they cant even understand them but they know theyre anything but good

not that youre on any level like a lewdtuber's, but come on.

>>658270
i liked it, if anything i was really getting into it, but i lose steam on a daily basis and im dealing with bad mental issues at the moment.

>> No.658830

>tfw no mommy vtuber to birth me
what do i do now

>> No.658874

>>658830
have you heard of the phrase "unbirthing" anon?...

>> No.658904

>>649282
I thought /aud/ was for "auditions" on 4chan to help get feedback for independents.

>> No.658943

>>658904
yeah, it's pretty dumb to limit /auds/ to just people who are explicitly trying to audition for agencies. the last several threads have been used for general indies, people just starting out or have an interest in streaming, etc.

>> No.658951

>>658874
yea ngl i wanted her to be my motherwife lol

>> No.658962

>>649661
Wait... /lgbvt/ is real? I think I've found my home.

>> No.659004

>>658943
i figured that was the actual point of /auds/ considering what has been posted and even if the hopeful is gone i'm sure someone else will make the next op which is coming up soon anyway since we're almost at post limit

>>658262
that's why i'm still here honestly; its a nice place to talk about this stuff without having a face attached to my posts

>> No.659178

>>653239
Why do you think Reddit has voting? It helps to punish idiots and reward community consensus.

>> No.659296

>>659178
>It helps to punish idiots
This is a good thing.
>and reward community consensus.
This isn't a good thing. Choose your poison.

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659454

>>652047

>> No.659498

>>659454
the numbers mason, what do they mean?
fucking useless table, anon.
average viewers per what? day? video? stream?
is that daily? weekly? monthly incomes?

>> No.659831

>>659498
average is average viewers per stream obviously, like that anon i replied to, and income is monthly
140 average viewers on twitch isn't retirement money but it's absolutely a degree of making it, or at least being in a position to do so

>> No.659930

>>635208
https://twitter.com/BrianTsuii/
Post in this guy's discord, you will get dozens of offers if you have money. Read the rules first and have an idea in mind of what you want to be.

>> No.659972

>>645084
This poster lacks critical information

>> No.660030
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660030

Ignoring the turn this thread has taken, would anyone mind giving me feedback on my indie channel as it currently stands?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgfFtE-rZDBvgRfXfNJ0fqA

>> No.660125

>>654262
Haha, nice pasta.

>> No.660149

>>660030

>Literally a dog

It's cute, some mouth flapping would be nice though

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660280

>>660149
>Literally a dog

>> No.660296

>>659296
>This isn't a good thing
Yes, it is. I punishes newfriends.

>> No.660329

>>660030
I like your MSDOS video. If you can market yourself well, you can ride the wave of nostalgia.

>> No.660351

>>660030
>literally doing everything right
>does what people say you need to do
>fills out dead air with comfy chatter
>responds well to chat comments when they arrive
>has a twitter but doesn't shill excessive or try to leech off others
>still small
someone explain this

>> No.660508

>>660030
like >>660149 said, if you had a reactive png that at least opens and closes its mouth when talking it would be nice imo
i do like how you change your appearance based on the game that you're playing and also you really didn't have any dead air from the parts of the videos i skipped around to look at

>>660351
>someone explain this
>has a twitter but doesn't shill excessive or try to leech off others
i would say that she's not really putting herself out there much at all; despite how nice one's streams are, if you don't let yourself be known to an interested community it'll be hard to get any notice
obviously like a lot of other anons have said you can't use it as your primary source of growth but letting people know you exist and interacting with people on twitter at all will help people notice you

>> No.660639

>>660296
>punishes newfriends
Show me a single subreddit being hostile to newfags. That only works in an hypothetical scenario where 4chan culture coexisted with a voting system.
But the worst part of it is the karma system which makes all users attention whores that only give a shit about getting upvotes even if that means repeating the general consensus all day instead of coming with something new.

>> No.660796

lmao you faggots chased idol hopeful out. never ask for anything good again

>> No.661117

dont be like me im not doing anything productive im ngmi

i still need to rearrange my room so i can get to work

>> No.661236
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661236

>>660508
Yeah, reactive png is next on my to-do list, as I know that the static png is definitely too lifeless for longterm use.

Your assessment of my self-marketing is also spot on, as I’m still trying to figure out how to market myself beyond appropriate twitter hashtags. I think expanding onto platforms like tiktok to post clips might be my next move.

>> No.661387

nihongo reps, 4 pngs, voice activated
https://twitter.com/96ENU/status/1314542817633398784

>> No.661401

>>661236
Do you plan on being a realistic dog forever or are you gonna have an artist do a live2D of a dog?
and yeah, marketing is hard; i can't say what i've been doing on twitter has been doing me much well (though when you post about a stream idea that people seem into you do get a bit of a boost if it gets rtd around) so i need to work on that too.

>> No.661532

>>661401
As funny as I think the realistic stock photo is, I have been seriously considering moving into a more traditional L2D avatar for more appeal to a broader audience. My main focus over the next month or so is to stream consistently for now, and I think I’ll shell out the cash for a model of some sort if I’m still doing a consistent job streaming.

>> No.661821

>>661532
I think that the realistic dog gives you a unique energy.

Use the same image, but rig it for live2d.

>> No.661836

>>657557
>>657507
Thanks for the advice anons.

>> No.661895

>>661888
>>661888
>>661888
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