/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Vhoejo confirm black company.

>>65580202
>>65580321

>Pikamee is a two-faced bitch who only chases clout while ignoring her peers
This has been known, the day she was confirmed for Vshojo re-contextualized every VOMS collab she "missed" (purposely avoided)

Genuinely would not believe anything Michael Cat says. The statement "oh this menhera is the sane one and the sane girl is actually the menhera one" is just retarded like cmon man.

>>65580801
You don't have to be menhera to be a two faced bitch.

yes, now fuck off.

nazuna content was trash, "i love you", "boing boing" "you are husband" she's retarded

>catalog talking about nazuna's departure more than /vsj+/
roru

post the old image with your icon phasenigger

>>65580801
Reminder that Vshojo hired an anti to translate for Nazuna and is confirmed to have astroturfers on /vt/. Posts like this are a great idea of what to look out for.

>>65580202
I don't believe a single thing this woman says.

>>65580801
This. She's a known liar with severe self-esteem issues. You can rrat all you like but the real reason for her departure was probably down to her just making more money on her Mikeneko channel.

>>65580202
collab with a jp menhera will remind Henya the painful memories of being bullied because of half white blood in her body.

みけねこは英語できないから、バイリンガルなピカミィに嫉妬してそうw

>>65580931
>/vsj+/ is complicit in pushing Nazuna out of VShojo
You don't say

>>65580801
Every woman is a Menhera, some are just better at hiding it.

>>65580931
Yea, they hate nazuna everyone know it.

>>65581070
They turn on everyone that leaves Vshojo. This is just the latest in a chain of many. Loyalty to the company over the talents. It's sad.

>>65580941
Unhinged post.

>>65581147
No one turned on Nyanners. Silvervale and Vei burned their bridges on the way out.

>>65580903
>"you are husband" she's retarded
I liked the part where she collabed with males. And then did it again and called her fans cucks.

>>65581070
why are posts like these always in broken english

>>65580202
It was Nazuna who reject twitch and vshojo first. If vshojo failed to contain that menhera, I doubt her new agency can

>>65581151
Hello Vee!

>>65581219
And she wonders why she fell off. Even if it's all bullshit, the #1 rule of GFE is keep your private life private.

is she saying aug 2023 or aug 2024?

desu I forgot Nazuna even existed

>>65581587
So did everyone else. That's probably the reason why she decided to drop it and carry on as Mikeneko.

>>65581209
Burning your bridges with a black company is the smart move.

>>65581679
Pikamee and half of VShojo's current roster agree with you, hence why they're trying so hard to forget VOMS and Nijisanji exist.

>>65580202
Vshojo has lost four talents so far because it's full of women acting like women and there aren't any male managers strong enough to tell them to stop goddamn acting like women.

>>65581351
[ 8月にコラボにお誘いしたお返事 ] uses the very clear past tense of "した" for "I sent you an invite in August".

>>65580987
In the words of Nick from Left 4 Dead 2: "All women are emotional wrecks who will eventually kill you "

>>65581798
kek, why would pika ignore her for 5 months?

>>65581747
They went from one black company to another. Sad. Soon they'll be leaving this one too and VShojo bootlickers will circle the wagons and claim they were never good.

>>65581747
This is the kind of astroturfing >>65580941 was talking about
>>65581841
Because doing JP collabs would limit her audience, Pikamee is a grifter who only cares about collabing with EOPs

>>65581747
>VOMS
>black company
LOL
LOLMAO even

>>65581747
Hololive too.

>>65581800
Nevermind, I might be mistaken on who said it/ what the quote was

>>65581867
Why would they leave one of the most successful and respected agencies? Chasing money only gets you so far when you admit you have a boyfriend.

>>65581924
It was probably Francis, that sounds like something he'd say.

>>65580202
brown hands posted this

Is VOMS still around? Holy shit they must be on their deathbed without Pikamee keeping them afloat.

>Still believing Mikeneko after all this years
You guys are a lost cause. Please just go back to /jp/ and live there.

>>65580416
moar, vhoejo sucks.
look at how vhoefags dogpile on nazuna now.

>>65581994
3 new members debuted actually

>>65581994
>he thinks voms is a company

>>65582039
Oh yeah? And are they successful? Because I know the fire girl, the water girl, and the Garchomp guy weren't.

>>65582029
Okay furfag

>>65581994
Only difference is less EOPs.

>>65582080
Voms whole thing is they're a small company that can't support someone as big as Pikamee. You join them as a hobby, not a job.

>>65582080
Define successful

>>65581209
>>65581679
I feel an incredible sense of deja vu from these schizo posts. Oh wait now I remember every time a graduation happens in general.
I wonder why half the catalog isn’t blowing up about this making new threads every time a new one archives. Where are the people “organically” inserting dramatubers into every thread?

>>65582094
Oh you're the schizo.

>>65582115
Lucrative.

>>65582158
If it's not Niji drama the catalog just pretends it doesn't exist regardless of how bad it is LMAO

>>65582094
I liked you Keys more when you talked about the bears

>>65582181
How about you just go back to your containment thread and let the adults talk.
>>>/#/

>>65582112
VOMS supported Pikamee very well, Pikamee actively snubbed Gyari, commissioned a third party model to intentionally separate herself from the rest of the company, and avoided collabs with her peers.
>>65582168
Facts are schizo? Oh wait, I'm probably replying to Vee right now, you're an egosearcher after all.

>>65582262
That's literally the definition of successful. Who gets into vtubing just to exist? You spend thousands on a model, equipment, marketing, and so on. Making it back and then some is the goal. Thinking otherwise is just childish.

>>65582158
>I wonder why half the catalog isn’t blowing up about this
Because Rushia getting herself shitcanned again is something people saw coming from a mile away.

>>65580941
>>65582094
Why would VShojo do this?
Sad how Delutaya has this faggot of a fan.

>>65582336
>Rushia getting herself shitcanned again
She left of her own accord because her coworkers intentionally snubbed her and the company hired an obsessive anti as her main translator

>>65580202
>anon shocked women are being bitchy towards eachother

>he can only comprehend success by monetary standards
Sad. You're barely a human being, really.

>>65582278
Why would he pick such a hard name to egosearch? There are a million people named Vee.

>>65582403
No, she got shitcanned. She was a maniac that no one wanted to work with. If she had just not streamed (like Hime) there wouldn't have been an issue. But Michael Cat can't keep her stupid mouth shut, creating friction and distrust.

>>65582094
disgusting.

>>65582481
If you search vee translator or vee nazuna you get relevant results easily
>>65582496
This is a furfag post btw

>>65582552
Also I'm trans. Don't know if that matters.

>>65582496
There's a pretty fucking big issue with Hime not streaming.

>>65582630
Not really. People love Hime even if she never streams.

>>65582703
And she does still stream. Just... not as Hime.

>>65582403
>obsessive anti as her main translator
Every sane person would become an obsessive anti if you have to translate her bullshit.

>>65582722
Nah she's done like one non-Hime stream since debuting as Hime to sign prints. She does YT stuff but not streaming. If she did a shitload of streaming as not-Hime then people would probably be upset with her.

>>65580202
>they acted all friendly with Nazuna
not really

>>65580202
Henya found out about this reply on stream today, tldr
>chat says nazuna replied
>henya gets excited because it's the first time since debut where nazuna replied to her
>reads reply
>visibly confused
>says she doesn't even have nazuna in the friends list or dms
>mood goes down a bit but oilers start giving her a lot of money and atreams moves on
>still says she's always open for a collab with nazuna

Btw there's also proof of henya asking nazuna for collabs and group collabs if you search for it and she also sent a video for nazuna anniversary but all nazuna has for proof of this is this passive agressive tweet and all evidence points to her inviting henya as mike, henya is also unironically so disconnected from jp vtubers she probably doesn't know who tf mike is

>>65582722
She does not she shows up on her grandpas stream for like a minute, Hime's grandma does scripted content on Youtube,

>>65582786
I think Nazuna/Rushia/Mikeneko/Whoeverthefuck's overarching problem is she doesn't play well with others. She's gossipy and unmotivated to do anything outside of her preferred pace. If she sticks to her solo GFE bubble, we probably won't hear any more drama out of her.

>>65581867
>Coco leaves hololive and says she won’t join another corpo later Kson appears brags about how much she makes but also that it’s not about the money
>—> Kson joins vshojo saying it’s the bestest company ever with 0 drawbacks, bragging that their CEO is Tony Stark, good people and making more money (not about the money though)
>—> Silver makes a vague, if you could even call it that, tweet then graduates with 2 other girls pretty much saying the company is scummy and the girls are fake

>—> 2 new hires come talk about how much better things are with people that actually care
>—> Nazuna graduates
Leaves only 2 real options every corpo is black except vshojo and leaving means the girls are not of sound minds because it’s the bestest ever or vshojo is 1 level away from being one of the only real black corpos

>>65582786
How did Henya invite Nazuna?

>>65582278
>VOMS supported Pikamee very well

>>65582630
yeah, it drives everyone insane
https://files.catbox.moe/vlbme2.mp4

>>65580202
LMAO that was cold, didn't know nazuna was swinging like that

>>65582857
>If she sticks to her solo GFE bubble, we probably won't hear any more drama out of her.
Given her fanbase is as insane as her, if not worse, she literally can't do anything to avoid drama.

>>65582786
Anon the voices in your head aren’t real. Henya could just be a bitch

>>65582786
>says she doesn't even have nazuna in the friends list or dms
So she admits on stream to hating her

>>65583162
i'm sure she'll get raped and murdered by a fan some day

>>65583065
His point is she’s not streaming but she wasn’t fired

>>65582917
All I'm getting out of this is that a requirement of joining Vshojo is that you have to publicly fellate Gunrun on stream.

>>65582917
>vshojo is 1 level away from being one of the only real black corpos
If Hololive or Nijisanji hired someone who actively hates one of their talents to be their main translator, dramatubers would be going ballistic. VShojo gets away with it because they basically have control of the indie/Twitch scene, everyone has to kneel to them. Even known VShojo antis like BatAtVideoGames have been forced to adopt a pro-VShojo mindset because the company sunk their fangs into one of her close friends.
>>65583054
>Gyari didn't instantly shit out a 3D rig for Pikamee so she wasn't supported!
Maybe Pikamee's 3D model would've been more of a priority if she didn't spend an entire year rebranding herself as a separate entity from the rest of the group.

>>65583169
I thought I was the only one that took it as that
>>65583162
You sound pretty crazy yourself

hime is grandfathered in as a meme, and a personal friend of the co-owner of vshojo, melody. she makes whatever the viewers throw at her, sells merch, and it's just an awkward joke that she never streams on her grandma's channel.

>>65583210
Nazuna strikes me as the type of person to own a gun.
>But Japan doesn't-
Yeah I'm sure Shinzo Abe thought the same thing.

>>65583162
>she literally can't do anything to avoid drama.
She literally can though. All she has to do is never interact with anyone in public ever again, but she can't do that because that's who she is.
The GFE bullshit is just something she saw happening in hololive and she decided to exploit it as hard as possible.

>>65580202
Everyone should actively push this menhera cunt out of their lives as quickly as possible.

>>65583298
her fate is written. 10,000 psychotic nihon cocks are descending upon her at every moment in time, it's only a waiting game.

>>65580709
this, I mean the answer is both of these girls are kinda shitty although IMO rushia is much-worse than pikamee, neither is spotless.

>>65583304
>All she has to do is never interact with anyone in public ever again
Completely normal expectations

>>65582917
>Nyan, Vei and Silver all left VShojo for Mythic (Vei had already been in Mythic for months)
>Nazuna left because Mike joined Voice Ore and got a VA role in an anime
They all left because they got something better.

>>65583436
>neurotically burns every bridge on the way out
>oopsie, consequences

>>65583260
>Maybe Pikamee's 3D model would've been more of a priority if
VOMS isn't a priority at all to Gyari
It's literally his hobby

Pikamee had more than enough capital to just commission someone to make the model, but Gyari insisted on doing it himself (he does not know how to make 3D models)

>>65583291
My understanding is that the people who own Vshojo literally own Twitch so they can basically do whatever they want with their talents.

>>65583436
The expectations merely match the promises she gives.

>>65583455
Vei was allowed to be in Mythic and VShojo at the same time? Why didn't they all just join both then?

>>65583516
are you 12 years old

>>65580801
>immediately turns on Nazuna the moment she's out of the company
Damn, this is some nijisanji shit right here

>>65583274
I mean there's something shady as fuck about her being in the same company and she doesn't even bother to add her to friends. You'd think that'd be a basic requirement.

There is a known Nazuna/Mike schizo here that used to troll vsj+. He was the guy making shit up about streaming quotas and we got a good laugh out of it.

>>65583234
lol Gunrun has always been an egotistical asshole. Dude was banning people left and right back in the day for just disagreeing with him. Insufferable to work with at times.

>>65583260
Vshojo has gone through multiple scandals, multiple people saying how bad it is under the covers though they can’t admit because of NDA, the smaller indie scene calling them out all the time and now even multiple graduations yet every year their reputation gets better. I am actually astonished like how much money is spent entirely on bots to fight any bad PR?

>>65583516
in the vshojo auditions the contract stated they were looking for talent that streamed a minimum amount of hours obligatory. i'm just saying that's probably what the new contracts that vei, nyan, silver, and now nazuna have turned down. i think vshojo at this point is ironmouse's medical grade fentanyl and experimental surgeries fund so she can get dicked down again.

>>65583516
Your understanding is entirely incorrect.

>>65583566
They left for personal reasons. VShojo is non-exclusive and several members are signed to a second agency.
According to Geega it is not uncommon in entertainment to have multiple agencies for different purposes/needs.

>>65583588
All companies have fanbases that do this. You're finally figuring out what it's like to not have tunnel vision.

>>65583503
>VOMS isn't a priority at all to Gyari
If this were true then he would have killed the project after Pikamee left, what you meant to say is that VOMS wasn't a priority at all to Pikamee. She viewed it as nothing more than a stepping stone.

>>65583675
>in the vshojo auditions the contract stated they were looking for talent that streamed a minimum amount of hours obligatory.
Source?

>>65583710
>then he would have killed the project after Pikamee left
No, because as I said it's a hobby.
Pikamee went far beyond the expected scope of the project.

>>65580941
i believe ya brother

>>65583684
I feel like if there's no downside to them being in the company and it doesn't cost them anything, the only reason to leave is because they genuinely hate the company.

>>65583675
>in the vshojo auditions the contract stated they were looking for talent that streamed a minimum amount of hours obligatory
>i'm just saying that's probably what the new contracts

>>65583777
yeah you missed the entire part where it costs nothing to hire her, she literally makes them money by existing. shitzuna did not.

>>65583777
I really wish she would stream more. She has the perfect breast size for a vtuber.

>>65583832
Nazuna would have made them money for them if they didn't actively create a hostile work environment for her by hiring a translator who hates her and did everything in his power to sabotage her, hope this helps

>have problem with one corpo that’s generally known to treat its talents well
Maybe it’s secretly a black corpo
>have problems with 2 corpos that are generally known for treating their talents well
Sounds like the problem is (You)

I don’t know how anybody still defends Rushia/Nazuna, or whatever the hell her name is now. It’s obvious she’s just insane.

>>65583775
Yeah, well, that's not the only possible reason and Nyan has explicitly stated hers. Namely, she didn't like the spotlight or the fact that her actions directly impacted her friends by the group association.

Vei similarly disliked the expectations of being part of a group and additionally does not care for the "vtuber audience."

Silver is numberpoisoned and constantly compared herself to her peers.

>>65583903
>did everything in his power to sabotage her
Such as?

>>65583455
>Had already been in mythic for months
So why did she leave there was obviously no reason to if it’s the bestest company ever? Maybe that’s too hard a question for you here’s an easy one what’s the starting salary for a new VA in Japan or someone rank F? Shill

>>65583837
>all those streams in July
We had no idea how good we had it...

>>65583997
>Such as?
He leaked members only content to Delutaya to make the two fight? Not only that, but it wasn't even on Nazuna's channel, the one that he's paid for, he kept track of her activity on Mikeneko in order to leak this material.

all the girls who left vshojo expressed relief in leaving the company.
>vei: thank fucking god, jesus christ. i can't say shit, i'm under nda for LIFE! that's CRAZY!
>nyan: yeeeah...what a relief. that's all i can say.

>>65580202
Why are henya like this?
Actually faker than fwmc and is actually two face bitch
Imagine being henyakek

>>65583969
She didn’t have a problem with Hololive as a company and she was fired. She’s insane and you’re a schizo shill 2 things can be true

>>65584192
NDAs are unenforceable if they are used to cover up illegal stuff. A lot of NDAs take advantage of people not knowing this and try to intimidate them into not speaking.

>>65584184
I don't know anything about this.
Can you prove malicious intent? How do you know he's an anti?

>>65582857
I think it's more that Nazuna is basically the JP equivalent of a roastie. She's getting older and seems threatened by the presence of a younger, more positive and hardworking girl. Because towards the end of her time at Vshojo she barely streamed at all as Nazuna, she seemed to want a huge fanbase without putting the work in, and even though she talked about wanting to have more JP members to collab with, she basically ignored Henya. It's what made her snarky comment that much more infuriating, Henya collabed with basically every Vshojo member and publicly reached out to Nazuna insanely early on Twitter, only to be spat on.
Honestly hope Henya and Kson leave Mike/Nazuna behind, that person genuinely needs help.

>>65584192
>>65583997
Wow I don’t know who to believe

>>65584192
Post the clip instead of some greentext with no source

>>65584256
It's easier to not have to deal with the legal headache at all and just not talk about it

>>65584255
The rest of her genmates basically pretended she didn’t exist after she was terminated and Flare openly talked shit about her. It’s obvious she doesn’t play nice with anybody.

>>65580709
>every VOMS collab she "missed" (purposely avoided)
You are genuinely retarded

>>65584241
Yea
I am disappointed at henya and drop her
But nothing happened since i only casually watch her

You guys come up with the funniest shit.

>>65582045
tons of catalog tourists and crossboard tourists were shitting this place up and the easiest way you could tell was seeing how they thought GYARI was some low level corpo manager

>>65584256
>He doesn’t know about record labels screwing over their talents with draconian yet completely legal contracts

>>65584241
>>65584438
Holy shit can you at least make samefagging believable? I am laughing hard.

>>65584184
I like how you necucks have been preaching this every single opportunity and have never once provided any proof of this claim

Even /#/ doesn’t think this drama is worth talking about. Everyone knows Nazuna is batshit insane, and nobody holds it against vshojo for dropping her. She just fade away in to irrelevance already.

>>65584394
>have problem with one corpo that’s generally known to treat its talents well
Where in that statement is sankisei mentioned or do you think they are the corpo? Not like you watch sankisei anyway based on your statement

>>65584656
>Even /#/
/#/, famously paragons of taste and good judgment.

>>65584264

>>65581906
Kson left Hololive because of abuse and brigading by China which got the company to drop China altogether, Deltauya left because of doxxing and the abuse that comes with it which led to a suicide attempt, and Nazuna got sacked for leaking info to dramatubers. 2 were because of abuse from so called fans and one was because of her own damn fault. Only criticism of Hololive is not protecting their talents enough from chat.

>>65584757
People love revealing their true colors on discord not realizing that other people are there specifically to spy on them LMAO

>>65584757
Is telling the truth anti behavior now

>>65584553
>Someone actually laughing at my shitpost
Wtf, it feel good

>>65584656
>the schizo breeding ground is the only opinion that matters
The anon called it dramatubers and their ilk are the ones defending vshojo

>>65584762
So Hololive went out of their way to drop China specifically to help Kson, and she shows appreciation by quitting and hanging them out to dry? What's wrong with her? Hololive bent over backwards to help her and this is how she repays them.

>>65584757
lmao, based

>>65584264
and

>>65584886
This is completely meaningless without any context
In fact I do not see how this is related to her at all

>>65584757
Which part of this makes him an anti? He's saying the exact same shit you say whenever she talks to a man.

>>65584922
This is from a comment left on a Mikeneko twitcast. Again, it is specifically from a Mikeneko twitcast, not Nazuna. He went out of his way to stalk Mikeneko to find anything incriminating to show to Delutaya

>>65584762
>Kson leaves to avoid the Chinese
>Makes every reference possible to her past so everyone knows it’s her
Keep trying to parrot that when by her own admission she’s just a greedy whore

Kek looks like they didn't give two shits about the menhera

>>65584982
>stalk Mikeneko
>by watching streams
Nigga

Somebody please explain to me the mind of a Michael fan. Does over the top GFE to milk paypigs, gets caught cucking her fans, gets fired from Hololive for breaking the NDA and throwing her coworkers under a boss, joins vshojo thanks to Kson vouching for her, can’t play nice with anybody, collabs with males, and finally bails to do god knows what. Like seriously, who is her fanbase at this point? NTR enthusiasts?

>>65584925
Nta but it’s understandable you wouldn’t consider it anti behavior because it would just be you outing yourself

>>65585003
It is interesting though that the Chinese people stopped spamming her streams once she left Hololive. They didn't care enough to stalk her, they just wanted her out of Hololive LOL

>>65584762
Kson was forced out of hololive. Cover intentionally made chinese spammers chat mods to ruin her mentally.

>>65584858
/#/ openly admits to botting streams to support their preferred talents. I don't give a rat's ass what they think about anything.

>>65584982
I do not think you know what the term "stalk" means. This was from after Delutaya posted her FANBOX post accusing Mikeneko of slander and Mikeneko responded by refusing to talk things out with Delutaya, instead going on about she has some super secret recording that nobody but her knows about that she refuses to share.

>>65584861
>So Hololive went out of their way to drop China specifically to help Kson
Hololive most certainly did not do that. Quite the opposite in fact.

>>65582278
Literally the only thing she asked for was a concert as the highest earner by far. They could not make it happen. She joins Vshoujo and she gets it. Voms was too small for her needs so she left for greener pastures. She now gets many times the viewers she used to while doing basically the same stuff she used to.

>>65585088
?
I don't call her a menhera, her fans do. Are you saying her fans are antis?

Everyone knows Rushia is crazy, she's only gotten crazier since leaving Hololive

>>65585054
1. He hates her.
2. He was only hired by Vshojo to translate for Nazuna, not Mikeneko.
3. This wasn't even a stream, this was a Twitcast.
If you try and deny that this is stalking, I'm just going to assume you're the furfag on damage control.

>>65585063
Its probably people that have sunken too much time or money into her, or people that dont know JP and can't understand what she's saying. Menheras can be great until they become too self-destructive.

>>65585183
They dropped Kson specifically to help China?

>>65584982
>stalk
When you watch her stream, do you feel like you are inside her home?

>>65580202
I’ve never trusted Henya

>>65585163
>>65585244
Easily furfag damage control

>>65585248
People tried to defend her about the Hogwarts Legacy thing by saying "She's Japanese, she doesn't know anything about anything that's going on in the world, stop bullying her, wah wah wah."
She's half American and fluent in English. She knows exactly what's going on.

>>65585234
>He was only hired by Vshojo to translate for Nazuna, not Mikeneko.
Well yeah because Mikeneko was not a VShojo talent
Why would VShojo hire him to translate for a non-VShojo talent

>This wasn't even a stream, this was a Twitcast.
Who fucking cares, same shit

Following public accounts for public content is not stalking even if you're hatewatching.

i find it hilarious how the instant nazuna leaves vshojo, keyfags go from "vshojo is the best company! so much talent freedom!" to calling it a black company that didn't let her do what she wanted

just like how mikefags insisted that dramatubers will back up what mikeneko said by confirming she has a recording in the delutaya drama, and then when they backed up delu instead, they go on about how all dramatubers are lying snakes and can never be trusted

>>65585294
Why are you stalking this guy?

>Catalogfags believe the words of the known crazy bitch over Henya to push a VSHOJO BAD narrative
Classic.

>>65583615
If there was a streaming quota he may would have been kicked out a long time ago.

>>65584861
Crazy thing is she probably had thought of graduating before the backlash. It’s common knowledge now to those who aren’t here to farm drama that you can’t officially graduate until you clear your sponsors and finish your jobs. So the “they aren’t giving her anymore jobs so she’d quit” theory is outright wrong

>>65585347
>keyfags go from "vshojo is the best company! so much talent freedom!"
They never said this. They were VShojo antis before she joined and that did not change. They did not once even bother to look at her new colleagues and any time they wandered into /vsj+/ it led to a fight.

>>65585116
Naruhodo, chink.

>>65585193
It sounds like she has no real talent and needed brand notoriety to save her

>>65585345
>hatewatching isn't stalking
You know what? I'm gonna go make an unrelated thread about this and see how many people call me a fucking retard when the words "hatewatching isn't stalking" come out of my mouth

>>65585347
The only dramatuber who defended Delululu was Narukami, and I think that’s speaks for itself. Even in his “defense” he begrudgingly admitted that Delu lied about him speaking with Mike.

>>65585514
OK be sure to link it

>>65585347
What are you talking about? They have always hated vshojo. There might have been times when they pretended to like it in some capacity but it's very easy to see through their lies.

its hysterical how every single person who goes out of their way to stand up for mike gets repaid like this. total backstabbing menhera bitch, there is absolutely nothing to be gained from associating with her

>>65585243
No anon the opposite would be they dropped China so they could harass her personally but she escaped the evil corpo

>>65583969
Cover bullied Coco into quitting and let Mel‘s manager abuse her until she threatened to go to the police

>>65585294
"uh oh, I don't have a counterargument to that, quick! post completely unrelated screenshots of me stalking this guy!"

>>65585090
No they ruined a couple of sponsored appearances and made vshojo change some of their artists. So again she wasn’t trying to avoid anything

>>65582158
only niji or holo matter for drama, the others, despite whatever cope they're in, are worth nothing for dramaturds outside topical shit

>>65585583
What?

>>65585116
That was totally an accident promise

>>65585630
Yozora Mel, the vampire girl. Her manager was stalking and harassing her IRL and stuff like that. For some reason Hololive fans like to pretend this never happened even though she's talked about it on stream.

>>65585347
>>65585350
>>65585558
Interesting

>>65585693
Hololive fans have to be the single worst fan base in the anime sphere.

>>65585630
The other, less successful and somehow sluttier Mel.

>>65585525
He said literally nothing of the sort you moron. Also, Mikeneko specifically said cited Narukami as her source in regards to this recording, So either he's lying in which case Mikeneko's source for the recording is also false, or he's not, thus proving Mikeneko has nothing and is being a menhera freak by lying about having a recording. You can't have this both ways.

>>65585090
Nah, Chinese artists who used to work with Vshojo refused to do so after she joined. It’s why Ironmouse’s second model isn’t used

>65585693
>65585773
samefag

>>65585583
>>65585693
Always comes back to trying to shit on hololive. The most documented company on the board and people still try to push lies

>>65585206
Literally everyone calls her a menhera, including her fans.

>>65585842
>>65585842
samefag

>>65580202
wtf thats messed up

>>65585347
Bullshit, Vshojo fans and Nazuna fans in /vt/ never got along which is why Nazuna/Mikeneko used to have her own split.

>>65585844
>lies
Backstabbed Coco, backstabbed Rushia, they by no means deserve even 1% of the cult following they have.

>>65580202
dayofags in shambles

>>65585797
These people defend but they don’t watch vshojo

>>65585349
Keyfags convinced themselves that this guy is responsible for everything that has ever gone wrong with Mike while she was at VShojo. Nevermind that a lot of the things she complained about were either later proven to be poorly worded on her end, or not backed up. They used to come to /vsj+/ and make claims that VShojo was doing stuff like forcing a streaming quota onto her and scolding her for sleeping on stream. Nevermind that it's been proven to a hilarious degree that VShojo does not have any sort of streaming quotas, and Kson proceeded to go to bed on stream like a week after Nazuna did and nothing happened to her.

They associate Mike's constant reacting to shit antis say about her with stuff that VShojo's forcing on her, and therefore VShojo is evil. The stalking of Vee is just another aspect of it.

>>65585947
"They backstabbed rushia by terminating her for breaking her contact!"
This is how you sound right now. Get some help.

>>65585844
I'd shit on any company that had so many incidents and yet was pushed by its fans as "the drama free company, unlike all those other shitty companies"

>>65580941
This is what nekofami want you to believe

>>65585935
She had her own split because she always had her own thread even before she was in vshojo.

>>65585935
It's kinda hard to get along with crazy people whose only contribution to the board is making up schizo headcanons to accuse Vshojo, Vshojo talents, Vshojo fans, RuMiNa's friends, anyone RuMiNa dared to look at, etc etc etc of everything bad short of actually banging RuMiNa

>>65585157
That’s literally a lie but ok

>>65586034
Nevermind that the biggest incidents Mike's gotten into over the past year have been 100% on her end. She used to have a general on this board but stopped because she burned so much goodwill from her fanbase away. All from shit she did on Mike, which was completely free of VShojo.

>>65586042
Why aren’t you shitting on vshojo right now then? For all intents and purposes, unless you’re a schizo, the ranking for most drama is vshojo >>> niji > hololive

>>65585895
Then why post a screenshot of someone calling her menhera as "proof" of them being anti?
Also, I don't call her that because it masks her true nature.

>>65585693
>believing a slut like mel
The guy probably said her hair looks nice or something and she went ballistic
Even if he actually 'harassed' her odds are she enjoyed it

>>65585248
But you trust Rushia? Lmao

>>65586145
It's not a lie. I have proof.

>>65584256
it doesn't have to be illegal, they can just be a pain to work with if you're not the mouse or kson

>>65586042
The only one who think Cover is drama free are retard like you.
But there is big difference in Cover drama and drama in other black company.

>>65586197
I shit on all companies that do bad things, and that includes Hololive. I'm not interested in downplaying it like this guy: >>65586245
That's pure tribal bullshit.

>>65586197
>For all intents and purposes, unless you’re a schizo, the ranking for most drama is vshojo >>> niji
How do you figure that
Is it 2021 again

>>65586283
But why are you so desperately shitting on Hololive in a thread that has nothing to do with them?

>>65580202
I still remember Vshojo fans being happy to get this snake on board, now you have to deal with her and the retarded amount of orbiters that follow her.

>>65585668
She had a right to feel upset and the manager should dogeza in every sense, which I don't know if or if not that happened, but it very well was possibly an accident.
Isn't the wrench next to the b&? I don't livestream I dunno. Subaru getting her entire archive of vods deleted instead of privated comes to mind.

>>65586245
Woah I already defended cover well enough don’t bring your schizo shit into it

>>65586224
First off anon obviously she would’ve liked it that’s like a collective fantasy of gen 1 they all want to be raped. She was even nearly raped by her female manager. Odds are he was just unattractive

>>65586383
Not anymore

>>65585773
>>65585693
Everyone knows about Mel's harrasment and everyone knows that guy no longer works at Cover, got taken to court, and Mel was pretty happy to be back.
Don't be a newfag.

>>65586339
Oh, so now it's "desperation" when you don't like what you're hearing, right? See, this is the exact kind of tribal shit I'm talking about. Don't talk to me anymore, you're a waste of my time.

>>65586302
If for every year that passes drama no longer counts then hololive isn’t even on the list anymore and vshojo still edges out niji

>>65585328
Literally nobody cared about Hogwarts legacy drama except for Twitter. It's just people trying to get clout by attacking randos on the internet. I lost respect for a lot of people during that. Nobody other than English speaking countries even know JK Rowling is a weirdo. And have you seen how clueless she is to news in general? Hell I didn't even like the game since the game had too much content in the crappy wilderness, but the main content in Hogwarts was actually good aesthetic wise, which is pretty much everything they wanted from the game.

Anyways I typed all that to call you a Twitter fag.

>>65586484
Well we all know that this board will hold onto things for as long as they possibly fucking can

But we should also know that that's not normal people behavior

>>65586164
In hindsight, Cover's managers must have been working overtime trying to keep her out of trouble. Because its crazy how in just the span of a year she could burn away so much goodwill, she even lost the portion of Henya fans that probably wanted to see the two of them collab.

>>65586475
Don't be a hypocrite now tribal warrior.

>>65585787
>false equivalence
>disingenuous summary
The recording was one she was required to make from Cover and her manager, it exists whether you like it or not. Delu said Mike was talking with dramatubers again after leaving Hololive, she had no evidence and everyone relevant had said they weren’t talking with her. Delu also admitting to lying about not being able to contact Mike in her private Twitter. The recording was from over two years ago. Delu had zero reason to explode like that. I get that her singing career is in the gutter and she’ll never experience a lick of success that Hololive or Mike has, but don’t take it out on us.

>>65586474
Mel is not happy to be in hololive and the guy wasn't fired until Mel called the cops on Cover.

>>65586389
That’s on subaru technologically illiterate with the rest of them. She would never have the chance to unprivate it anyway but why are you bringing up stuff from years ago?

>>65586484
>>65586533
So we're just pretending Vesper and Magni getting fired a few months ago without a graduation stream isn't drama? What a blind spot you people have when it comes to Hololive.

>>65586475
I'm not any of the anons you've replied tp, I'm just genuinely curious why you're desperately shitting on Hololive in a thread completely unrelated to Hololive. Seeing as you can't give a proper answer and immediately start seething and jump into defensive mode it's fair to conclude that you're a schizo who has Hololive living rent free in his head. Thank you for proving it so quickly.

The only thing that can save Mike is hard dicking, impregnation and multiple children. Fuck the mental illness out of her body.

>>65586197
The symbols are backwards, you have dyslexia?

>>65586575
She was pretty happy to stream plenty right after the court stuff was dealt with. You're just making shit up.

>>65586580
I'm a VShojofag and I do not consider that drama because they were on hiatus for months prior which makes it abundantly clear they simply were not cut out for working under Hololive's framework (and fanbase) and decided to leave

Not a big deal

>>65586580
Vesper and Magni getting fired wasn't drama though. It was comedy.

>>65586580
I’m sorry I thought the conversation was about hololive I’ve never seen those names before?

>>65586627
My balls are too empty after doing that to all of Hololive, give me a second

>>65586578
No that's on her manager, I'm bringing up another case of manager accident that could be seen as malicious if it were someone with a persecution complex.

>>65586627
She seems the type to drown her kids if you pay more attention to them than her

>>65586224
>>65586395
From the Hololive wiki:
>On May 16th 2020, Mel announced on Twitter she had been a victim of a serious harassment campaign through numerous throwaway accounts on Twitter and emails since October of 2019. [37]

>These messages contained malicious and sexual harassment directed specifically at her by name. At first she simply kept blocking the accounts, however the harassment did not stop, the accounts kept increasing in number to the point where she could no longer keep up with blocking them all and this was causing her a lot of stress.

>On Oct 31st she received an harassment e-mail that contained the sender's name. It was someone she knew. She immediately contacted the police and CEO Tanigou as well as other appropriate staff at Cover Corp.

>The police advised her not to go to the Hololive Studio for her upcoming 3D stream and it was announced Mel was "feeling unwell". At this time her friend helped her get in contact with a lawyer and with help from the lawyer, they got the person named in the email to admit to being the one sending the harassing emails and doing the Twitter harassment. As of March 2020, the harassment from the individual has stopped and things are moving towards a resolution.

>Cover Corp. later made a statement[38] apologizing for their poor way of handling the situation, stating that they were paying for Mel's legal fees and cost of relocation and apologized for coercing Mel to continue streaming despite the current situation.
But great job, proving the point about how Holo fans will just downplay and deflect about literally anything that happens in Hololive.

>>65586535
why do you keep trying to white knight cover managers when it's known only a couple do their jobs?

>>65586572
>The recording was one she was required to make from Cover and her manager, it exists whether you like it or not.
Source?

>people still think henya did something wrong
kek

>>65586690
>she deserved to be raped
You're doing really well battling strawmen.

>>65585328
>still bringing up something that was a nothing burger
she literally read the comments, and then proceeded to NEVER play it and take a break, likely in preparation for her move to vshojo.

>>65586572
> it exists whether you like it or not
Only person claiming this is Mikeneko, who refuses to share even the smallest proof of it existing, and her braindead fans, like you.

> Delu also admitting to lying about not being able to contact Mike in her private Twitter.
You have to be trolling. She literally said she contacted Mikeneko in her fanbox post, which kicked off this whole drama in the first place. Genuinely, the fuck are you on about?

>>65586690
Holobronies will downplay literal rape in their company, imagine if Nijisanji was even half as bad.

>>65586710
>someone that literally everyone likes, even on /vt/
>joins the pink V
>now she's evil
Can't make this shit up

>>65586629
3rd world education is really lacking

>>65586696
Whatever they did, it was apparently enough to keep her relatively sane for stretches of time.

>>65586785
Never watched her, don't dislike her, but her fans are to blame for her /vt/ rep with their never ending persecution complex

>>65586879
what are you even talking about

>>65586233
/#/ hates the botter and the botter hates /#/. It’s some shitposter that does it purposely to mess with them, you don’t have proof of shit.

>>65586918
>everyone thinks she's evil!!
>heh she's such a persecuted hero
Nobody cares Henyatard. You're too proud of fighting trolls.

>>65586973
oh, you're fucking retarded. i get it now. thanks for the clarification.

>>65580202
Ya know how there's that whole "Elira clique"thing in niji?
It's the same in vshojo but with IronMouse.
It's more her company than management's, if she doesn't like you, you're out. She just wanted to stick it to the holofags by poaching their top earner and then threw her out when she didnt make homofags seethe anymore

>>65586690
3 years now time sure flies thanks anon for posting this. Cover paid for her legal fees, housing, helped with the police and made a public apology about not doing enough. I sometimes forget with all the homo spam that they do care about the girls safety such a great company. Now go look up how harassment and stalking works in the great country of Japan schizo

>>65587024
>a person catches a cold in south africa
>why is mouse like this?

>>65587019
lol good one.
Good luck with the martyr complex. I hope Henya can be seen as a hero once again...

Cover's mission statement

"We do the completely wrong thing immediately, do nothing fast enough, or just ignore and hope it goes away"

>>65587066
>IM goes to South Africa (super sick btw) and gives the local a cold
>Why is mouse like this?
Fixed it for you guess you forgot they shared a company common mistake she forgets other talents exist to

>>65587179
sorry it bothers you that mouse is successful and nazuna isn't.

>>65587037
Mel hired her own lawyers and had to do it behind the company’s back. They paired the legal fees of the manager along with helping him get an equally valuable job at a different company. Sometimes I forget how willingly Holo fans will just twist everything backwards.

>>65587037
But you see Mel secretly hates Cover anyways.
She told me herself.

>>65587179
IronMouse would wither into dust if she went to Africa.
She's super susceptible to diseases, though it's weird how that Connor disease hasn't killed her yet...

This thread had nothing to do with hololive or any company yet vshojotards somehow managed to make it all about it and then they turn around and call others "tribalfaggots".

>>65583617
>banning people left and right back in the day for just disagreeing with him
That's a good thing for a mod tho. Places that don't do that turn into cesspools.

Henya is just ignoring all this and not attempt to fix it through dms, right? I'm sure someone in Vshojo was wise enought to tell her that, right?

>>65587248
vshojo base their entire personality around being anti-holo anti-corpo corporation. And the fans do the same.
>we're not like the other fans!

>>65587248
nah, it's just because all the vshojo haters are niji false flaggers who can't help but start talking about hololive being shitty (which hololive really is shitty anyway so can't blame them)

>>65587293
why would she? nazuna has like 0 fans compared to her and is gone in 24 more hours.

>>65587224
>They paired the legal fees of the manager along with helping him get an equally valuable job at a different company
That's how it works in Japan LEGALLY, retardo. Cover could not do that. Holy fuck, it was explained, like, a billion times already. Japan isn't US, you can't "just" kick someone out.

>>65587298
Your mask is made out of wet single ply toilet paper, vshojotard.

>>65583617
my favorite part about gunrun is that he takes credit for the irl backpack, when literally justin kan made the first irl backpack and gunrun just modified it.

>>65587357
He's like a kid who found a new toy, probably heard about Mel just yesterday and thinks it's dep lore to own the holobronies, so he'll keep harping on it all day.

>>65587400
then why are you even here, if you claims it's a vshojo thread, why are you here? oh maybe because you're a fucking loser nijisanji fan trying to feel better about yourself after almost driving selen to an hero.

>>65582790
I've never personally met a woman like this, but I have a friend who has who has told me about her, and they just can't stop themselves from self-destructing even though their friends and family try to help them.

I've long thought that Mike Cat needs to get herself into therapy and take a break from the internet for a year. She's on a downward spiral and it really shows. I was happy when I heard she got voice work in the anime industry, just because it might actually get her away from her computer and social media for a few hours and help improve her mindset.

>>65586769
Good thing Narukami was being completely honest in his video, and I’m sure Delutaya’s fans who made that summary were doing so in entirety in good faith.
Narukami already accidentally leaked the name of Delu’s manager, guess who’s the only one who could’ve gave him that.
YWNBAW

>>65587357
>Japan isn't US, you can't "just" kick someone out.

They sure did with Rushia

Anyway, sexual harassment if documented properly is grounds for firing in Japan. A company doesn't need to go through half the shit they normally do if there's a police report.

>>65587468
I came here to see what retardation the last three nazuna fans have to say but instead it's filled with retards like you who can't stop shitting on hololive.

>>65587555
thanks for proving my point
>>65587298

>>65587514
>Comparing contracted worker's legal rights to employee's
You are just making yourself look dumber, neet-kun.

>>65587580
According to your dogshit "point" I'm the one who's shitting on hololive, but in reality you're the one doing it.

>>65587555
There’s probably like one Nazuna fan here and maybe 2 /vsj+/ users here from the beginning, and even then they’re probably gone by now. I wouldn’t be surprised is everyone here was just a nijinigger looking for a way to shit on Hololive or Holofags looking for ways to make VShojo look bad.

>>65587507
(You):
> Even in his “defense” he begrudgingly admitted that Delu lied about him speaking with Mike.
Also (You):
> Good thing Narukami was being completely honest in his video

>>65587555
It's a couple of Mike fans who think they are "protecting" her by claiming a vast conspiracy is out to get her, and trying to make the conversation on Hololive.

>>65587610
>contracted
nice speculation

>>65587817
Oh god...

>>65587796
I think it's genuinely just one guy. If you check all the threads regarding anything to do with RuMiNa, It always has the same guy using the same writing style and same talking points. They've even invented a boogeyman they blame all the critisisms on called "Rushiaschizo"

>>65587796
Mike fans have not really said a thing about hololive in this thread. All the anti-holo arguments were about kson.

>>65587843
Well this blows the “it’s all secret nijifags bringing up hololive” theory out the water

>>65587992
Anon you’re banging your head against a brick wall none of it is in good faith

Ngl reading this thread I completely understand why the Japanese Love Live fanbase is gatekeeping Hololive and vtuber fans the fuck out of their hobby.

>>65588029
mad cause wrong

>>65588029
Any sane person would point out what a shitty black company Cover is regardless if it’s from a Mike, VShojo, or Nijisanji fan.

>>65588176
Do you just go into random threads to do that?

>>65588097
I thought people hated the Hololive fanbase for gatekeeping everyone else out of their hobby.

why didn't she just join as Mike...

>>65588097
https://twitter.com/LoveLive_staff/status/1591029670505779200?t=TLhcEN37ARBqwwXAXBnypw&s=19
https://www.reddit.com/r/LoveLive/comments/ys6m4i/hololive_productions_will_have_a_collaboration/?rdt=56446
https://twitter.com/catyan_/status/1724286585825370253
You were saying schizo?

>>65588313
He said love live fanbase and not the love live IP holder. The fans hated this.

>>65586383
I remember some holobrony coming to /vsj/ first thing after she was announced and writing something along the lines:
>Well, she's your problem now. Good luck.

>>65586446
>Not anymore
Do you really think it ends here? lol

>>65588237
no, but according to
>>65587555
apparently hololosers jump threads just to make sure people aren't talking shit about the world's most worthless ceo

>>65588387
Keyfags have damn-near abandoned the board, we don't hear from them at all and literally none of them have made an appearance in /vsj+/ despite Nazuna finally streaming and then the announcement of her leaving

It ended months ago quite honestly

>>65588341
The second one is the love live subreddit and the third one is a fan of both

>>65588346
Yea that definitely happened

>>65588531
No I remember that too actually

>>65588097
I always thought the Hololive fanbase was formed by ex Love Live fans. They both have the same views on things.

>>65586492
It's pretty obvious at this point that the way Twitter works is by artificially manufacturing drama to drive engagement. They are big enough platform for the law of big numbers to do its magic - you can find any convenient group holding any variation of opinion out there. They just need an algo that picks the thing to amplify that stirs the most shit up and keeps you glued to the screen the longest. You basically go on twitter and you get served the drama of the day, everyday. People noticed from the begining, that the hogwarts drama was driven by a small number of nobodies with no followers on Twitter

>>65588346
>>65588531
>>65588553
I was the one who went there and did the same thing to them when Kuro joined LOL

>>65588841
Yeah I definitely remember that one
We had NijiEN tourists for like three days doomposting about how bad he was

>>65588899
Well it's not him that's bad so much as his old fanbase but he seems to have done everything possible to filter them out so it worked out in the end. It seems joining Vshojo was a strategic move for him.

>>65588427
I didn't come here to talk about hololive, you did.

>>65588803
You could go on twitter and not search for drama.

>>65588803
It's actually extremely easy to not see trash posts on Twitter
Stay off For You
Avoid trending topics
Mute or block accounts that bother you
It's that easy

>>65589203
>>65589079
No, the whole point is that it's impossible.
Even if you attempt to curate the content you see in order to "train" what the algorithm shows you, they will always serve you at least a little bit of drama in oder to hook you up. Something out of the place other than what you trained it to display will always "accidentally" show up on your timeline no matter how well you filter it. And as the time passes they learn what hooks you up even better.
You could try following a single interest but there will always be some BS seeping through on purpose

>>65585347
Anon, mikeneko had 4x the audience of nazuna at the best of times. Keyfags hated nazuna from the beginning and actively refused to watch the angel, begging her to stream on soapcat instead. They would be celebrating her finally leaving vshojo, if they hadnt all killed themselves after she cucked them.

>>65589476
Coo coo

>>65589557
Idk what’s worse you not realizing that’s a schizo or you not realizing the issue is nazuna streamed on twitch which they didn’t like.

>>65589476
>the whole point is that it's impossible.
Then why is my Twitter experience completely fine
>what the algorithm shows you
I simply do not use the parts of the site dictated by the algorithm

I actually have two different accounts and both of them are fine because I'm not retarded.

>>65589558
That's literally what you can see for yourself on your own timeline.
You come over there because you're bored and they mostly serve you the stuff you like, closed entirely in your own bubble, mixed in with just a tiny drop of u comfortable BS to piss you off so you can argue with some idiot on a basket weaving image board over a fucking tweet between anime girls and suddenly 4 hours have passed

>>65589832
>Then why is my Twitter experience completely fine
Yea I bet it is, I bet they never caught you in a loop of tweet shitposts out of nowhere

>>65589718
The '4x at best' is conparing nazuna to mikeneko's twitch streams. If you compare nazuna to mikeneko on youtube its closer to 8x.

>>65589929
You're right, they don't
Anon it is quite literally as easy as staying on your following feed
It's so fucking easy, you can do it right fucking now

>>65582786
Wouldn't surprise me if someone who's only claim to fame is being a crybully grifter pulled such a cowardly cunt move.

>>65589990
Yeah, sure. I don't trust you. Simply because we're doing the very same thing right now. And it's even about a tweet on top of that.

>>65590069
I really don't know why you're having such a hard time understanding.
The algorithm can't hurt you on a chronological scroll of accounts you follow.

>Simply because we're doing the very same thing right now.
And this is neither Twitter nor algorithm-driven. It's also going to 404 eminently and then it'll be out of my life forever.

>>65580941
>anti
he doesn't have to be a fan to work as a translator. the only good reason he would harbor any hate towards her that i could think of, is that one time mike was trying to sue triangle for slander. but nothing came out of that and it has been buried and forgotten under the lack of updates from it a year ago. but even then he was already vsh official TL before this happened.

>>65588964
ok newfag

>>65586690
Nothingburger

>>65588260
>hololive fans gatekeeping
In what universe is that the case?They’re literally the most normalfag of all vtuber fans