/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>65491695
*whoretubing

>>65491695
>join corpo after losing everything
>get them to foot the bill on new model and advertising
>do absolutely nothing
>quit, taking all the shit they paid for with you
ummmmm based?

Vshojo cut 50-100% from merch income, which is critical for JP Vtubers who depend more on income from merch than on twitch gifts.

>>65491695
>Niji yab
>now Vhoejo yab
the end of the year keep giving.

>>65491695
Was she ever actually there to begin with?

>>65492235
This isn't true. It's <50%.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdSK6Sy9A2g

Everybody already saw this coming.

>>65491695

>>65492235
Whether gifts, merchs or youtube superchats, they all require fans to buy them. Big cut don't mean much if no one buying.

>>65492003
She can't eng, it was a stupid idea to begin with.

>>65491695
>menhera that does over the top fake screaming at her viewers pretending that she is jealous at them for watching other girls
>same act that a tons of other vtubers have done before her
>this is the "peak of vtubing" to cringey redditors that infested this place.
Heh, captcha.

>>65492385
explain how losing someone who broadcasts as regularly as gura but without generating passive income from image is a yab

>>65492537
Except vhoefags, they denied it until now.
Vhoefags going to turn on her next, so predictable.

>>65492235
It is fun to watch Vwhorefags continue to refute it, even though all the evidence proves it.

They already have her replacement lined up. Thanks kurosanji!

>>65492663
first explain why you immediately deflect to Gura like clockwork vhoefag

>>65492801
The evidence coming next thread with the proof that Mousey bots

>>65492635
a bit of a convoluted attempt at schizoposting due to seething but i give you props for the originality of it.

>>65492709
You will now brag about how you pwned and trolled the vniggers epic style

To be fair to rushia coco was the one who fucked her over by getting a job at a English corpo. Coco sold her some dreams and rushia found it wasn't the paradise or rainbows she was promised being a vshojo talent would be. For once rushia doesn't even speak English. I get coco tried to help a friend in need but this did more harm than good. I think rushia has been mentally checked out from vshojo for a while a now and is as to why she went back to being mikeneko.

I mean we already knew this, they basically just made it official. She’s already established in her new mike/rushia in a wig role

kson was stupid for trying to herd her

>>65492801
yes fuck them over, please give me the evidence

>>65491695
I'm surprised they're even bothering. She never streamed as Nazuna, but she was still getting merchbux for it anyway. Now she's gonna have two indie faces, but no one making merch.

>>65491695
lmaoooo
now wait for her anime role to be noticed by no one
and her singer carreer to flop.

>>65493069
>I mean we already knew this
Vhoefags keep denying, now this will shut them up.

For a talent with a Japanese fan base, Vshojo contract is truly retarded.
Vshojo underestimated Nips' belief in souvenirs.

>>65492709
do those fags even care about her? majority of vhoejo are EOP and she cant even speak basic english properly, i bet they will forget about her in 2 days

>>65492836
because it is a good example? and this is an English board, if it were Japanese I would use ayame.

>>65492235
Doesn't Vshojo also allow them to make their own merch and take 100% of the profit?

>>65493440
Literally nobody ever expected to see her again, what the fuck are the parasites in your food doing to your brain?

>>65492385
And there are three more days left until the year ends! Plenty of time for more yabs.

>>65492709
Nazuna never streaming has been a running joke forever. The other joke is that she secretly hates Henya for being a dirty halfu, which is why they never collabed.

>>65493474
Kson basically confirmed they have a better merch cut than both niji and holo when the 2% drama was going on but please prove me wrong with all the proof you saved up for the next thread in the last 2years

>>65493417
Why vshojokek like this.

>Can't even post a relevant image of Nazuna as I only have porn of her
Anyways I love that mentally ill retard, shame nobody tardwrangled her
>"t-they tried tho?"
no, they didn't chain her to a radiator next to a bucket.

>>65491695
Saw this from a mile away

>>65493578
yep but she preferred to do that with her RM model

>>65493608
>Literally nobody
Yet every time Nazuna came up vhoefags denied she was leaving. Now pretend that didn't happen huh? typical vhoefags.

>>65492625
They had 4 members who can speak Japanese

>>65491695
Vshojo is dodging a bullet here so its a win for them dumping that crazy woman

>>65491695
I forgot that VShojo has a Japanese "branch."
What's going to happen to that branch now? Is Henya considered part of the VShojo Japan?

>>65493679
>better merch cut than both niji and holo
No, she just denied 98% cut, she didn't say it was better than Holos.
Vwhorefags always make up dramas, that's why no one takes them seriously.

>trying to bait in a nazuna thread
nigga there is nobody left on this board that watches her, who you gonna bait lol, lmao

>>65493771
Man I hope some Christian mission gives you the medication your village dearly needs

>>65493771
Yes, people said she wasn't leaving because ruminafags started pushing this in like fucking April. After she basically confirmed she'd given up on Nazuna everyone knew it was coming and you can look at /vsj+/ right now and everyone's saying they knew it was coming.

In your head and in your walls

>>65493935
Pretty sure she said she wouldn't join if she was getting a worse deal than before but the better than niji cut was confirmed by multiple people so it's not a bad contract for jp when they have a better cut than one of the biggest in jp

Was there literally any reason for the Nazuna character rather than just having her join as Mikeneko?

>>65494161
>she said she wouldn't join if she was getting a worse deal than before
Not like kson had a choice to begin with. Who else would've taken her at the time?

>>65491695
It was inevitable, a menhera incapable of fitting in with co workers

>>65494284
It was to give kson an angel friend.

>>65492003
It show Vshojo gave her more mercy than they should

Does anyone still watch this crazy bitch?

She had it all and threw it away because she won't take her fucking meds. She's gonna end up on the street mumbling in the corner all day.

I don't think kson's tweet about merch cut is very useful.
When she graduated from Holo, Cover did not focusing much on merch revenue and did not even operate their own store.

>>65494284
No clue. Maybe she thought it was proper etiquette to have a new character for a new corp even though Kson just stuck with Kson.

>>65491695
It's time to come home.

>>65493927
Yeah, Henya's technically part of the JP branch. I think it mostly exists for tax purposes.

>>65491695
Of all the things that could signal the "collapse of vtubing", I don't think Nazuna's reisgnation from Vshojo would even be in the top 1000.
>>65492625
The stupid idea was trying to break in the JP scene without following through after Kson and Nazuna. Dunno if they were just waiting for more graduations to poach but without new blood they pretty much left her withering alone.

>>65491695
Nice title. She barely streamed as Nazuna and hardly ever collabed with other Vshojo members. If I didn’t see this announcement, I wouldn’t even notice her departure.

>>65495032
I mean, they hired Henya. And then Nazuna never interacted with her.

>>65495168
Yeah, a year and a half later. Also, does Henya even stream in japanese?

>>65493784
And now they're down to Henya and Kson, who can both speak English. It's clear they don't get on well with primarily japanese clients, they want English speakers who can collab. Kson can speak some english but only collabs on occasion so she'll probably leave next. Hime is clearly a stuck up bitch who refuses to collab with the other girls. They should kick her to the curb.

>>65495354
>does Henya even stream in japanese
Her streams are literally bilingual. She repeats almost everything she says.

>>65491695
>The collapse of vtubing
Vshojo is a Vtuber agency, but not the only agency.

>>65495354
She jumps between English and Japanese. It's adorable.

>>65492635
Redditors didn't realise she was supposed to be GFE until February 2022. They were cliponly faggots

>>65492235
Vshojo only take a cut from merch they organise/produce. Talents are free to do their own merch drops on the side and keep 100% if this was about merch she could just do that. Kson has been over how they operate many times on stream. She just wants to be Michael Cat.

>>65493983
yup, they all went back to /jp/

>>65495462
So do Japanese watch her stream?
Only 40-year-old Americans and Spaniards and SEAs are watching Twitch in 2023.

So is she retiring from vtubing entirely now? Is she completely washed up?

>>65492385
How the fuck is this a yab? she left in everything but name month's ago. She hasn't used the nazuna persona regularly for ages. Everyone know that this was coming.

This is why Flare is so pissed at her and avoids mentioning her so hard, she isn't someone worth of remembering by now

>>65495804
No, she's just been streaming as Mikeneko instead of Nazuna for a while.

>>65492583
Underrated

>>65492709
Everyone of us that actually watches Vshojo accepted that she left over 6 months ago lmfao. Her fans and the rest of Vshojo fans have almost zero overlap at this point, She barely interacted with the rest of the corpo and lived on her own island with her unicorns.

>>65495462
There are other chuubas who translate almost everything they say but they usually have a clear target audience. Since Vshojo is already like a 90% english group, if she doesn't make an effort to pander to japanese viewers, she'd just end up spooking them off. To most of them she just looks like an EN vtuber from an EN company.

>>65495806
catalog subhumans are desperate to stick a "yab" on anything that happens.

>>65492801
Post the evidence. Also they only take a cut of merch organised by the corpo. Girls are free to make their own merch drops on the side and keep 100% of that.

>>65491695
Mikeneko has spend less than 6 hours as Nazuna over the last two months. Why the fuck would she keep going when she's actually popping off as a real voice actress?

>>65493771
No? Nazuna has barely even been mentioned in /vsj/ for months and when she is it's joke's about her leaving, lmfao, you people live in your own personal reality sometimes.

>>65491695
Being honest, this isn't the biggest deal. I mostly followed her on Mikeneko and thought that Nazuna was dragging her down. She never seemed to fit in with how Vshojo did things (mostly being western-focused whores).
Surprised they were going to let her keep to Nazuna stuff, though I don't know why she'd want it.

>>65493684
Why holokek like this?

>Only SEAs hate Vshojo!
>Only Nips hate Vshojo!
>Only Youtubefags hate Vshojo!
>Only Corpofags hate Vshojo!
Consider the following lines

>>65494696
Never ever. She is Kusunoki Sio tier now

>>65497080
Weird thing to be surprised about. The talent owns their characters and models, that's Vshojos whole thing.

>>65493698
>Can't even post a relevant image of Nazuna as I only have porn of her
Drop them on catboxes

>>65496359
NTA, I remember that stretch in May when it was super obvious she was tired of VShojo and some faggots were raiding RuMiNa claiming she actually loved the company.

>>65492509
She literally says I can’t say it because others might not be the same. And why would nazuna’s contract be the same she couldn’t even stream on youtube?

>>65491695
Didnt she already quit 4 months ago?

>>65497223
Everyone hate vshojo

>>65492663
Well Gura hasn’t left and she did would that not speak for itself?

>>65498447
Yes. She didn't even stream on her anniversary

When will men learn to stop enabling BPD women?

>>65493039
Weird it send more like she sold rushia to them in exchange for a better contract

>>65492235
She quit, because they gave up on having a JP gen.

>>65497080
>>65497916
I get that but what exactly is she ever going to do with it? Feels like she heavily prefers her Mikeneko 'face' and Nazuna will be relegated to a dustbin in her closet.
Can anyone come up with an example of when she would ever bother to use and do a Nazuna stream in the next year?

>>65491695
kek, I gotta respect that
now I understand why once you get fired in japan other corpos won't hire you, they know how to stay away from troublemakers, but vshojo thought they could get away with it, noup, the menhera won

>4 graduations in under a year
What a shitshow of a corpo

>>65498447
Basically. No one is surprised by this and anyone that wasn't braindead expected it.. Or they're just clueless catalogfags that jumped on the news for bait.

>>65496056
Every time she was brought up in threads implying that she doesn't like vshojo some people who are apparently not vshojo fans always said the she still hasn't left so clearly she still likes vshojo.

>>65498990
>graduations
No vtuber is capable of graduating, that's why they became vtubers.

When I was a child, during the Christmas season, my mother taught me not to take corporate advertising at face value.
I feel sorry that she didn't have a mother like my mother.

>>65498990
>still mogged holo at the vtuber awards
>has the content creator of the year under their roster
>#1en vtuber under their name
>henya

>>65499963
>western award shows
lmao

>>65499963
>holo wins best corpo and 5 other rewards, gura wins best vtuber of the year in another awards
>had to spam 3 lines for 1 person
>who the fuck is henya

>>65493784
heny doesnt have japanese fans anymore and that is what she wanted.

>>65498990
Not to sound defensive, but given that the talent are granted ownership of their avatars and characters, I would say more that they're just parting ways with the company and going back to independent streaming, and the "graduation" term and all the formality surrounding talent departure is more of a holdover from other corporations.

>>65498168
I'm sure the raiders were being genuine as they usually are

>>65498990
Next you'll say yuri from phase connect was a graduation.
Everyone who has left vshojo still has full rights to their IPs and everything else, a graduation implies everything about the character retires.

>>65494284
she probably wanted to keep her options opened, and not mix mikeneko with vshojo in case it failed
and that's kinda what she did

>>65501275
Terminations then? That is not the own you think it is
4 people gone in under a year. What a shitshow of a corpo

>>65491695
>vshitshow dies
>"oh no vtuber is dying"
peak retarded

>>65501465
>terminations
>everyone has publicly stated that they were the ones to end contract and leave for their own reasons
>everyone except nazuna still interacts with vshojo to this day
You aren't very good at this, are you newfag?

Nazuna was clearly upset about not being able to speak English. That was clearly the whole point in steaming on Twitch, to appeal to her Western fans. But she didn't got the numbers she wanted, and seeing Henya doing what she wanted to do was probably very upsetting for her.

>>65501507
>dies
they're not going anywhere. every english-speaking part of niji is collapsing and vshojo will feast long and well on the remains

Genuinely thought she'd yab her way out. A pleasant surprise. Hope it goes well for her

>>65501674
>its a EN vermin tries to redefine vtubing episode

>>65501507
This is a technique often used to persuade investors.
Pretending being king of a very small country is sometimes more valuable than being a local ruler of a large country.

>>65501711
>steaming on Twitch
But mike was streaming on Twitch to play with Japanese streamers.

>>65501756
She literally did yab her way out. This graduation notice happened right after she shilled her mknk account on stream as nazuna

>scam Vwhorejo out of a model meant for Kanata
Holy based, did we judge her too harshly?

>>65501465
This started with Mythic offers a better contract to VShojo talents. But everyone has reasonable reasons to go indie.

>Silver
Accepts because she doesn't even interact with the other girls.

>Vei
Follows Silver around, also her boyfriend's friends literally runs Mythic.

>Nyanners
Clearly more interested in streaming irl with her boyfriend than in VTubers.

>Nazuna
Has nothing to do with the others. She is just isolated as the only JP-only speaker on the corpo and doesn't get great numbers on Twitch.

>>65501950
I don't keep track of Mike, but my impression is that she is mostly on YouTube. I assume Twitch has advantages.

>>65502156
I don't think anyone in VShojo would care about that.

>>65501465
None of them were terminated. Why are you so desperate for drama? Their contracts ended. They left. Someone else sells their merch but nothing really changes. Next year more will probably leave and more will come in. It's really not a big deal.
>>65502156
She did that in august.

>>65493504
Just give up dude. Niji and Vshojo will never catchup with Holo. They're way too retarded to fulfill the key task of any agency which is properly managing your talents.

>>65502156
No, I mean she'd feel shafted by some imaginary slight and reveal everyone's address in a rage or something. Everyone knows who she is by now. That's nothing.

>>65492003
If anything they were the one who used her for clot, her stream is the biggest vshoujo stream to date.
In the first place she was stupid to join their, not that they are bad but she doesn't gain anything by joining the agency.

In all seriousness who did Nazuna interact with in Vshojo? I remember Silvervale trying to interact with her as much as possible when she just joined but can't remember any other people trying in either direction.

>>65502825
If only she'd gone on indefinite hiatus instead. So much better, right holobro?

>>65501950
sister, the ones doing that are you beloved holos in the gta server and others in the future

>>65491695
Hololive and Nijisanji have too much of a marketing advantage in the JP market. VShojo can boost vtubers that speak English like Henya but they couldn't do much for Nazuna. They might not officially change anything but from now on they will likely focus more on the EN market.

>>65492003
Anyone thinking kekson had her best interests is delusional

If Vshojo fans weren't so aggressive towards other communities, everyone would feel sorry for Vshojo.
Well, there's never a moment when a Twitch streamer isn't arrogant.

>>65491695
Never even heard this name before, no idea who this is or what she looks like, in summary I don't give a shit
>OMG GUYZ THE VTUBER SUZUKI YAMAHA CHINGCHONGCHANG JUST DIED, THIS IS SUCH A BIG DEAL, PLS CLAP
Nah, fuck off

>>65492709
We all saw this coming. I can't even remember the last time she was live. They dropped the ball by not letting her stream on Youtube.

>>65503411
the other girls tried to interact with her
I remember one night everyone was on the minecraft server and tried to play with her and she fucked off and kept playing by herself, henya was there too, she she would've been able to comunicate in some capacity
that just off the top of my head, there have been a few other times as far as public attempts, can't really say about private

>>65501844
It actually is though king of a small country gets to meet the king of the big one

>>65503762
It's about time for then to stop pretending that vshojo JP is a thing. Someone knowing japanese or being japanese doesn't matter when they stream in English anyways.

>>65504235
she said this was due to a third party, not vshojo's fault, every other girl can stream on youtube and sometimes they do, vshojo even did some special group events there

>>65503842
its rushia you retard

>>65504235
Cover was blocking her.

>>65504481
90% sure they only did this because they were still advertising themselves as being the alternative to Holo and Niji so naturally they should have multiple branches like the other big boys do.

Eh, who cares t b h

>>65504512
>a third party
twitch?

>>65500115
>>65500028
They/them seethe

>>65504267
Really sounds like a 'leading a horse to water' situation but with the added bonus of language barrier anxiety. Or the vshojo environment just isn't what was wanted or expected.

>>65504805
Where's the ironmouse concert at a live venue?

>>65504267
I don’t believe Ironmouse made any attempt to welcome her into the fold. Fucking arrogant bitch.

TALENT FREEDOM is so good people decide to leave.
Nice company you got there Vshitshow

>>65504805
I'm not the one whos oshi is a cripple in a corpo where the 4th person just dipped because of how black it is

>>65504796
she never said, would have been weird, twitch exclusivity contracts usually entails streaming quotas which she clearly didn't have, considering she never streamed much

>>65504954
you have to let go, silver

>>65504670
complete lie

>>65504971
There's still 4 there that left other companies and joined vshojo so I guess everywhere's just shit

>>65491695
The brothel is burning, lads.

>>65504983
why do so many of you retards not understand what vshojo is? Its not a talent agency like hololive, its a fucking merchandising company. How on earth is it a black company when it has actually zero control over what vtubers under it do?

>>65505374
Huh, weird
Why was a merchandising company nomiated for vtubing corpo of the year...? Someone should've notified the hosts to disqualify vshojo from that and give the spot to phase connect (a actual vtubing corpo)

>>65492709
Yep, they're going to turn on her like the other 3 that got out. Any post about them prompts a deluge of shitflinging the likes of which you normally only see from nijicucks

>>65505374
It’s a front for tax evasion. It’s so that everything can get written off as corporate expense, so that they can raise incorporated funds, and get government subsidies for operating as a business.

>>65505374
it just is, OK????

>>65505460
>Why was a merchandising company nomiated for vtubing corpo of the year...?
.....cause its still a vtuber company you absolute retard

>>65505532
So it is a black corpo
Alright

>>65494315
...literally anyone? Fucking Kson, universally beloved after the biggest grad stream ever? This was before fags started retconning how liked she was just for joining filthy western company.

>>65505374
So went from
>it's not a company
to
>it's not a talent agency
to
>it's a merchandising company
What the fuck even is vshojo at this point?

>>65505374
It's a streaming group, thus a corpo. Not unlike the myraid of other streaming groups formed for tax deductions.

>>65505607
the issue is that any corp that would hire her would gain the hatred of the chinese. No japanese corpo would risk that.

>>65505472
only silver, vei and nyan get posted regularly
considering nazuna didn't shit talk anyone and act like a cunt, yet, they haven't turned on her as of now, in fact they're posting cute pictures of her in the thread

>>65505672
Its a vtuber merchandising company, who the fuck is saying its not a company?

>>65505739
>>65505374

This is just the collapse of VShojo Japan, they don't have japanese streamers.

>B-but what about Henya and K-son

Both appeal to an english speaking audience and stream mostly in english, specially Henya, K-son stream more in japanese, but she does it mostly in english lately.

>>65505766
Are you ESL by chance? Nothing in that post says they are not a company.

>>65505603
>Im going to redefine what words mean cause im butthurt
ok xis

>>65505479

>>65505818
Of course they're ESL anon, where do you think you are? Next you'll be asking if they're brown.

6 years of Hololive. Only 1 decided to leave by herself so far.
Others are terminted or are forced to leave.
And people call it the "toxic idol company"
Funny how that works.

>>65505818
You are desperately trying to twist words to where people cant call it a black corpo while still trying to call it a corpo

>>65505786
vsjp is a meme anyways, they just set an office there for autistic japanese burocratic purposes
so yes they're both basically EN but with JP contracts

>>65505921
Actually yes i can because i understand what a black company is, while you for some bizarre reason dont.

>>65504971
Talent freedom also includes the freedom to leave without the threat of losing your model or ability to speak about your time in the company. From the beginning they wanted people to stay in Vshojo because they wanted to, and not because they felt their IP was being held hostage.

>>65505374
>giving a blank check to retarded women that can't manage their own lives is actually hecking good and wholesome

>>65505672
Backpack company

>>65491695
>vtubing is collapsing because an ex-holo found out her fellow ex-holo was a stupid shill and none of her audience was where vshitshow required she exclusively stream, and therefore set up with a better company that'd let her go back where her audience is
Take your meds, vshitshow faggot.

>>65505909
Sana Coco and Aloe left on their own. Rushia and Chris were fired. Under 1 a year is pretty damn good. Whats vsj at now?

>>65491695
Ah the one that never streams in the first place.......Who cares?

>>65492003
The irony of your post is that she's already using a model that looks like her model from when she was a holo so she's unlikely to use vshitshow's model anymore anyway

>>65506068
i think your on the wrong board bud

>>65491695
I think Vshojo needs to realize that they aren't going to get a foothold in the JP market and only focus on EN.
The recruited literally one of the biggest JP vtubers in the world and couldn't get anywhere with her.
I bet Nazuna is pissed that she's fallen into obscurity by joining Vshojo.

>>65505607
Literally everyone in JP who had contacts with China (=every agency) had her blacklisted at the time. Nijisanji still has.

>>65506448
She seems to be doing fine as Mike

>>65506047
Vtubers need to realize that retaining your IP isn't as important as they think it is.
The Mythic girls all retained their IP and still lost viewers.
Vtubers "reincarnate" all the time. And people know who your past life is and fans will follow.
Whats more important is branding like being part of a popular group.
Sure you can do great branding by yourself like most successful indies like Shigure Ui or Shylily for example- then what's the point of joining vshojo then?

>>65506448
I dont think vshojo has ever wanted the JP market, Kson was just friends with Melody who she couldnt at the time stream with so once she was out of hololive, it was an easy choice for her to go there, not to mention she atleast speaks english. There is little doubt, it was kson who offered nazuna to join vshojo, but it seems mike worked out well enough so there was no point in keeping 2 identities.

>>65491695
VShojo has no integrity, no grit, no plan, no sense, no respect, no passion, no commitment, no ambition, no ethics, no ability, no belief, no values, no dignity, no faith, no trust, no youth, no joy, no guts, no empathy, no real worth to anybody but the whores who grift and lie, and cheat, and steal, out of the hands of mentally ill little simps and saviorfags. The thought that they are treated with any semblance of respect by their toady, indie hanger-ons and the rest of the established vtuber community makes me sick to my stomach. That fucking whore Nyanners has poisoned the well. Thank God for Pippa and Tenma or this fucking hobby would have no saving graces.

>>65505607
Fucking lol. You ex-tatsus remain the most delusional fanbase. There was no way any company better than vshitshow was going to take her in, given her behavior when nobody is standing there with a hand on her shoulder reminding her what standards are. Especially in Japan where her love of drug references make her a constant socio-legal liability.
Reminder: Japan does not tolerate drug use, full stop. That's why brapper backpedalled so fast after suggesting she was high when she made a total assclown of herself that time. That shit is asking to get canned and blacklisted by society in general in Japan.

>>65499963
>tries to defend vshojo as a org
>the only thing he can think is "we have ironmouse and henya"
lmao

>>65504983
>>65504864
Whens pekora going to accept a award in front of 2 million people? We could lower it to maybe winning a single award has she done that yet?

>>65506708
I like how your doing exactly what the post your replying to is calling you out for. Kson didnt get kicked out of hololive dude? Also a liability? Hololive was desperately trying to keep the chinks at bay, if she was a liability they sure tried their best to keep her around.

It was hardly a secret that she is going to leave that whore infested org

>>65506708
Mm, yes, Kson's so blacklisted and so obnoxiously out of touch with Japanese society that she's being incorporated into the Yakuza series, used to advertise it, and going on tours and doing gigs talking about it with the company/staff/other VA's.

>>65505607
>literally anyone?
Name one JP company that is willing to burn the bridge with china for her.

>>65506624
>Whats more important is branding like being part of a popular group.
There was a vtuber once who attributed her meteoric rise to fame to those who came before her and knew how important it is to value the collective over the company. I heard she has different values now.

>>65506708
>kson got blacklisted by all of japan
damn i must've missed that between her graduation and her getting put into Yakuza

>>65506975
Hololive lol

>>65506941
Melody is literally, unironically more pure than Nazuna

>>65492003
That's Kson's dream

>>65506975
sega

>>65506975
Sega and everyone involved in the Yakuza games

>>65506711
>both mog holoen
>whole company gets 3d in 3 months instead of 2 years(holo)
>gets to design their own model and get good rigging unlike jp corpo's
>doesn't need perms to play or watch anything
>they don't get fied like zaion,rushia, hitomi chris.
>no sex offender managers like what happened to mel(holo)

>>65506879
When the award is actually relevant.

>>65506966
>incorporated into the Yakuza series
I'd be impressed if it wasn't the same people who begged Korone to endorse Sonic after she played it once.

>>65506448
I think what happened is she made Nazuna because she was getting a lot of harassment as Mike so she thought a corpo would be a safer move, but as the harassers went away and the support grew bigger she realized she didn't need to use Nazuna anymore and could stick with Mike. Plus she had to stream on Twitch as Nazuna and she clearly prefers YouTube.

>>65506966
you mean the ones where they censor her out of broadcasts to china? and she wont even be in the chinese version of the game?

Vwhorejo dying? Yes please!

>>65506571
Her viewership hasn't stopped declining since Apex Matsuri. The Christmas cosplay stream was the first positive sign she's had in a while, but the stream before that was in the triple digits. She also recently drove one of her top donors away after badmouthing him when he missed a stream.

>>65507211
Nice goalposts retard, do they come with wheels? The question was about Japanese society, not China.

>>65502199
>Clearly more interested in streaming irl with her boyfriend than in VTubers.
Is that working out for her? Haven't followed her in ages but I'm curious.

>>65495806
If anything, this was expected.

>>65506651
>I dont think vshojo has ever wanted the JP market
Did you forget the whole Talent Freedom meme marketing campaing in Japan when Kson debuted?

>>65507304
Nope, Nyanner's numbers have went into the shitter ever since she left Vshojo. It might even be even worse than when she announced she was dating Aethel.

>>65505979
Why can't a vtuber merchandising company be a black company?

>>65507304
she's doing fine numberswise, basically the same she was doing in vshojo around 4/6k fluctuations

>>65507385
>Why can't a vtuber merchandising company be a black company?
Because how would it be black?

>>65501135
Retard idols can graduate and go to other groups or solo and it's called a graduation. Besides when the talent leaves a corpo they almost never interact or collab, it's not 'just parting ways'. Even the big mouse-nyan sister branding didn't survive graduation. Regardless of IP rights or content regulation , Vshojo is still a vtuber corpo.

>>65491695
Fucking idiot deserves it for blindly following kekson

>>65507470
they did collab a couple of times since she left, vei and silver didn't really collab when they were in either

>>65507385
Because Vshojo doesn't have the ability nor structure to actually force talents to do anything, never mind pull black company tactics.
Nazuna hadn't streamed in like 6 months prior to the surprise Christmas stream, Hime Hajime streams like once per year total - get back to me when Vshojo does something on the level of cancelling a major event and forcing all their talents involved to repeat a blatant lie that there was a covid scare, then you can talk about being a black company.

>>65507381
>when she announced she was dating Aethel.
KEK

>>65507450
How can't it be black? Anyone at the top can abuse anyone below them.

>>65507708
They can ignore specific talents which would also make them a black company.

>>65491695
>Vshojokeks talking about how their corpo is perfect
They hired the biggest Menhera in the world so they can't be that perfect.

>menhera whore finally quits the company after refusing to ever collab with Henya and not caring about the account in the company
I fail to see the issue here?
Let her go play Apex with her boyfriend some more or show off her body for her simps again or whatever the crazy ho does these days

>>65507814
retard

>>65507965
You're the retard. Vshojo still has the power to abuse their talents. Forced work isn't the only form of abuse. Your "source" for hololive being a black company is someone not getting their manager to restrict them enough lmao

>>65507211
>SEGA getting money out of the sstupids Chinese even when they made a big campaign to purposely include someone they hate
based

>>65508032
you're a retard because you don't even know the basics of how the company works and is structured
there is no-one "at the top" who can dictate to a talent anything they don't want to do
all ignoring a talent achieves is vshojo getting no money, they need to press for ad/merch/whatever for them because that's all they get paid on, if they "ignore" a talent and they make their own shit the talent gets all the money

>Getting rid of dead weight to make room for Selen and Mika
Based, seems like a good decision to me

>>65508216
>who can dictate to a talent anything they don't want to do
Why are you still at this? I already said they can still abuse the talent by doing things like just ignoring them.
>all ignoring a talent achieves is vshojo getting no money
So like the thing you claim about hololive doing to Coco and Rushia?

>>65507591
A couple of collabs and tweets are a far cry from the ride or die sisters they used to be. I'm not faulting either of them, my point is that a lot of it is just marketing. And barring very rare exceptions, graduation involves leaving the content sphere you used to be a part of.

>>65508216 (me)
Vshojo avoids black company status by definition.
Which is not to say they are without flaw, just to throw a bone. The Nux drama serves as an example of what can go wrong when you have such a flat operating structure and no clear direction on a given event.
>>65508353
retard

I genuinely believe the freaks who dont watch Vshojo are mentally inferior to those who do

>>65508389
How is hololive a black company for "ignoring" talents?

leave your company
join another company get a high end model
leave company but keep high end model that cost thousands and hard to get made without the connections of Vshojo

Profit

how to use vshojo is 3 easy steps

>>65508557
There's no profit because that high end model will never see the light of day again.

>>65506879
When is Ironmouse getting even half of the concurrent viewers that Pekora gets on a livestream?

>>65508611
what are you talking about, they get to keep it
read the article

>>65508710
It doesn't matter if she keeps it when she's never going to use it.

>>65508557
Shes not even going to use that model desu, the one she has on YouTube is better and shes already been using it as her main one for months.

>>65508557
>he thinks Rushia gives a shit about that model

>>65508741
?? not going to use a 6000 model that you are allowed to keep

yea sure buddy, she'll be streaming again soon

>>65508807
lmao dream on.

>>65491695
This really shouldn't surprise anyone

>>65508740
must be nice to be a rich cunt with thousands of simps like her and that whore iron mouse

they get a new 6000 dollar model every fucking few months

omg i hate these whores and i hate the fucking morons who support them

>>65508807
always amazes me when i see someone so confidently ignorant in what they are talking about

>>65508807
She might do one final milking stream with it on her last day with vshojo and that's it. It won't be brought back in any proper capacity.

>>65508741
Kek nice grudgepost retard

>>65508895
Its always a twitch viewer

>>65508895
well i don't watch vshojo or this dumb bitch so i din't realize she has this many simps to afford a new one already

omg simps are dumb

>>65508888
stop being so jealous of women on the internet anon its embarrassing, if you want to leave your mud hut apply yourself and maybe you can upgrade to straw

>>65508888
Success truly breeds jealousy

>>65508944
then why are you here talking like you have any idea what you are talking about, the simps seem smarter than you

>>65508936
a viewer who doesn't simp for the popular girls

you're just like those morons in high school drooling over the popular girl who gives no shits about you

>>65508907
The smartest thing she could do is to never even think about using that model ever again from this point forward. So yeah we might see it soon.

>>65508807
>She sells it pre-owned and makes a tidy 5 grand profit

Did Vshojo just usher in the "used car meta"?

>>65509002
and your just like those retards in high school who hate everything thats popular because they think that makes them interesting and unique, but really it just makes people think you are an angry little child

idiots
these girls using you for a monthly paycheqe larger than any of you could ever imagine

what do you get from it? nothing
they dont' care about you

>>65509070
That could be said about literally every streamer in the world let alone vtubers, why are you even here, shouldnt you be farming gold on world of warcraft to buy rice for the month?

>>65509019
That's why I said proper capacity. She might have some mental episodes again that make her having that model anything but beneficial.

>>65509180
no I mean not even to use it for one final goodbye

>>65509052
Sell the model to who anon?
Mel Nekomata?

>>65491695
Honestly who cares at this point, washed up former idol with one yab after another really isn’t even entertaining for a dramafag like me
make a thread when she does JAV

>>65496338
6 hours in 2 months? No wonder they think she was an active member of the roster.

>>65492709
vshojofags aren't even fans of vshojo, they are just anti hololive

>>65509342
In the dog eat dog world of the 1-2 views they will take ANYTHING to get an edge. Just imagine some 1 view buying the model and advertising "LOOK AT THIS NAZUNA STREAM" that is instant 3 or even 4 view numbers from curious people alone.

>>65507304
Nope BF declined and she declined.

>>65503411
silver and geega were the only ones who regularly talked to her while nazuna mentioned watching zen's streams sometimes. everyone else made generic I love her statements at most. as for the minecraft thing, connor was there

>>65507304
>>65507423
https://twitchtracker.com/nyanners
May 23 was when she left Vshojo, she's declining hard, and not for lack of effort either.

>>65506708
aaaaaand here she is sponsored by Docomo, one of Japan's biggest internet companies.
chingchong for u too

>>65510019
he wasn't there this time >>65504267
I'm not even sure he ever was on that server, maybe idk, but he wasn't there that time for sure

>>65510098
I think lack of effort had a lot to do with it

>>65493039
It could've worked if they hired some japanese only after Nazuna, but they didn't.

>>65510322
You're right, Connor was never on the same server as her. The one he was on died before she joined.
>>65510942
True and it's not like japan's short of vtibers.

>>65510942
They hired a Japanese vtuber and Nazuna actively ghosted her
Do you think that cunt deserved special little playmates just for her with how she bullied poor Henya?

Well, good luck Mike, just keep yabadabadoos to minimum.

>>65511396
Nah Rushia is a cunt, but doesn't make sense to create VShojoJP then hire a japanese only vtuber and thats it.
But to be fair Nazuna should have made the effort to learn some english if she really cared.

>>65511396
Henya is not a japanese vtuber.

>>65511752
others should have learned japanese if they really cared, but we all know ironmouse and the gang dont care about the others in the corp

>>65511918
how dare you, hime knows some japanese, she's been living there for years now

>>65511995
who

>>65511875
>Henya is not a Japanese vtuber
by what definition? other than Nazuna refusing to interact with the dirty hafu

>>65512136
She only has an audience because she streams in English. She is an EN vtuber that can speak Japanese.

>>65512221
man it would be wonderful you retards knew what the fuck your talking about, EN viewers came later, pikamees audience at the beginning was entirely jap. You could say shes an en vtuber now sure, but in the beginning? Nope.

>>65512221
Henya repeats almost everything she says in both languages, try actually watching before you expose yourself

>>65512339
It doesn't matter if EN viewers came later when she is only an EN vtuber right now.

>>65512384
nta but she speaks japanese literally every stream, she translates along most of the time

>>65512384
did you tell her JP viewers that?

>>65512221
She is a Japanese woman living in Japan who speaks Japanese as her first language

>>65512467
Doesn't matter. She mostly speaks English and her audience is there to see her speak English.

>>65512342
No she doesn't, she just says dayo. Watch streams.

>>65512467
Let's be honest here for a second, 95% of henya streams are in english, trying to argue that is disingenuous.

>>65491695
Sure sure, but tell me vshojofags, anything of value was lost? I heard she literally stopped streaming as Nazuna about 6 months ago.

>>65512705
we're not gonna be able to bully her retarded audience anymore, but they fucked off months ago, so no
not really

>>65512705
no, but as you can probably see alot of tards think its the end of the world

>>65512705
It's only really notable in that everyone had already accepted that Nazuna was going to quietly fuck off and only be seen like once a year for events like Hime is.
I guess she was just too dead weight even for the once in a blue moon merch arrangement to be worth it. Says more about her than it does Vshojo honestly, the company was doing fine without her before and it'll be just fine afterwards.

>>65513028

>>65513028
I'm just sad she disappointed Henya...after Nyan also disappointed Henya by leaving a week before debut (they were talking on the company Discord, Henya wanted to hang out with "Nyannyan-chan")

>>65513500
she still can theres nothing stopping her

>>65513500
well, they could collab if they wanted to
but pink cat is too autistic and it seems as she prefers to collab with fleshies now

>>65513603
>>65513640
Didn't Nyan say she would still collab with those in Vshojo during her leaving stream? Hasn't happened though. Pretty weird given how close she was with Mouse beforehand, I wonder why not. Even Hogwarts drama doesn't explain it as an explanation because booting Silver for playing it only to hire Henya makes no sense.

>>65513847
she didnt know the other two were leaving, guess who she hung out with

>>65513847
she has collabed with mouse a few times since she left, she never really collabed that much with anyone else, except haruka lately

>>65507261
>She also recently drove one of her top donors away after badmouthing him when he missed a stream.
I dunno anon, it's almost as if her constantly doing shit like this and shooting herself in the foot is the actual cause of her decline or something.

>>65513847
People forgot how crazy this bitch was, is, I am glad she is gone.

she just went live kek

>>65492625
dumbest thing i read on the internet today, and i was reading earlier someone saying nazuna's model was actually supposed to be kson's roommate.

she made no effort for jp collabs. she pretended to not even know henya spoke japanese.

>>65513847
henya didn't play it though, she only suggested she might play it and when she was told the implications backed down. big difference between her and omegawho wolf.

Yagoo should rehire her and have her return at Holofes 2024 to a CM Punk-level pop

>>65518292
no

>>65492709
>Except vhoefags, they denied it until now.
You are actually delusional.
Check the vsj threads from earlier this week. When Nazuna wasn't in Mouse's new stream background everyone in the thread realized what this meant and nobody was surprised or bothered by it. It was a whole lot of "Guess she'll finally leavy officially, not that it changes anything."