/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>65461695
back hort

Her tits were special

pink korone

Which Niji graduated this time?

>>65461695
Her art is really nice. I'll give her that

>>65461695
>Animal crossing, pokemon, and kirby spam
Such riveting content. I do miss her tits though.

>>65461695
Everyone in council but her got to collab with their oshi at least once. Why did korone ignore her?

>>65461813
Either Selen tried to kill herself or management is lying about it to cover the stealth suspension for telling people to reupload the song management took down

>>65461695
So special that almost no one watched her, she had bad numbers when holo EN was still at its prime. If she was still around today she probably would be the first 3 view in the branch

>>65461695
Still seething about Sana in almost 2024?
Selen trying to kill herself really mindbroke you, huh?

>>65461813
Mika is or was literally having her grad stream today.

cum

I will say this at least, the people still hanging on to Sana are nowhere near as pathetic as the people who still hang on to Aloe

>>65461695
she was the most nothing boring ass streamer of all time and the people pretending to be sad when she left were cringey mingey

>>65463016
>cringey mingey
Owl poster is a homosexual, imagine my surprise.

Hardly anyone watched her, and I have no idea why she had a slog of a week to graduate. Wouldn't it be much better to rip the band-aid off in dealing with good-byes?

The nicest thing she did though was the messages she left in Minecraft for Myth and Council.

>>65461695
she was special because she was a brown giantess
more news at 11

>>65461695
Astrogirl the song really was special

I hate this shit so much, bitch didn't even last an entire year in Hololive and barely streamed at all within that year. Its clear she was just a nepotism hire from Ina who probably thought this would be a chill side gig, but then realized how much effort you actually had to put in and how she also chose her "precious" genshit and arknights crap over the company. She probably would've bailed if she got in during the China drama too

>>65461695
we got to watch her draw that thumbnail image from start to finish while listening to her giggle and chat with us. then she drew a version with a piece of toast in her mouth because we got on a tangent about bread and jam. in another stream, she decided we could become the combination of two of her most loved things, bread and dogs, and we watched her draw the first bread dog and then the emotes. she'd draw up an emote for just about anything we wanted and she ended up with dozens of them as a result.

it was a lot of fun to interact with such a bubbly freeflowing creative mind. I appreciated Ina but found her art streams just comfy but not really heartwarming. Sana made me feel happy.

>>65462682
Both of Sana's oshis cried over her graduation. Korone and Watame.

Sana was the first EN to graduate, right?

>>65461813
Mika actually graduated Selen attempted graduating by killing herself because Niji left her 15k in debt during Christmas

>>65463016
Boring? Don't you mean comfy?

OP deserves the rope, but we will never see a a cool outfit...
it kinda hurt that we will never witness anything remotely close to this.

>>65463466
Ok? Doesn't refute the fact that Sana was literally at the bottom tier of EN Holos. She didn't stream and was just as boring as Ina, plus she didn't capitalize on her 1 main draw with art nearly as much as Ina did

>>65461777
spbp

>>65461695
waste of a slot

>>65463322
Yeah Sana is a sweet girl.
She's the sort of girl that if I had a son and he brought her home I'd check to see if there was a ring on that finger. If there wasn't I'd take him to one side and demand an explanation.
Unfortunately that meant she wasn't much good as a streamer as that environment favours very strong and erratic personalities.

>>65461695
One of the worst vtubers in bigger corpose, together with Hakos, and everyone will pretend that she was the greatest thing since sliced BREAD (AAHAHAHAHAHHA GET IT GUYS?! BREAD!) because you can serve a plate of literal shit to a holobrony and they will eat it up without question.

She had a really good sense of humor. Like when she did the English lesson with mori

>>65461695
Literally who?

>>65462928
SANA LOVE
ALOE LOVE

>>65463589
>Doesn't refute the fact that Sana was literally at the bottom tier of EN Holos
Someone has to be last
>She didn't stream
At the time it looked bad but looking bad, it's on-par with current Promise and a lot of EN. She did stream for very long hours on occasion. She streamed more than people thought she did, you just didn't watch her.
>was just as boring as Ina
Sana was anything but boring. Always full of energy compared to Ina. I understand people not liking her humor though.
>she didn't capitalize on her 1 main draw with art nearly as much as Ina did
True. I kind of get why she didn't but she would've been a lot more popular if she mogged Ina. She was the better artist and a retard for being autistic about it.

>>65461695
She was special to me.

>>65461695
The first brown vtuber HoloEN girl that love chink gacha shit. You wont find that shit Irl that's for sure.

>>65463869
>it's on-par with current Promise and a lot of EN
but that was at the beginning, she would be streaming gura levels now

>>65465421
She streamed a lot at the start and put in more effort than the rest of Council with creative streams that required prep. She did a lot of her own editing, animations, designs and OBS assets. Sana wasn't lazy, she just prioritized her other job. If anything she was working harder than any of them, just not in Hololive.

>>65463869
>She streamed more than people thought she did, you just didn't watch her.
Playing gacha pokemon shit for 12 hours in almost dead silence is not very engaging.

>>65463016
You don't mean that.

>>65465644
moving goalposts now?

>>65461695
>Barefoot big-breasted brown bimbo
She was special to me

I've never understood why SEAnigs had such a hateboner for herthe moment she was revealed and why the keep their hateboner mote than a year after her graduation

>>65461695
you wouldn't get it

>>65466276
Sea hates everything and everyone even their own kind.

>>65466276
self-hate and inferiority complex they hate anything with brown skin because they hate themselves

>>65466276
She reminded them of their own brown-ness

Really reserved due to being a new streamer
stops her horoscopes whether it was management's decision or not
Dog dies
burns out
Allegedly has to choose between working professionally or continue as a streamer
Made that decision
After her graduation announcement she actually became able to banter with the other members.

>>65461695
>Generic ass Alice/Shiori avatar
>Random ass name
>Guarunteed replies title
>Sub 10 minute video
This isn't just bait, it isn't even premium bait, its OMEGA bait

>>65461695
Dear god when are people going to move on, i feel like people only bring up sana for pity points

All these sana fans even though she has streams that performed worse than some small corpos. Truly a mystery reminds me of the twitter fans the homos have

Why does she block hololive fans on twitter?

>>65466276
I don’t hate her, but I hate faggots who keep bringing her up frequently. She has been gone for more than a year and was only briefly in Hololive without making any particular impact - for better or worse.
Even Council has turned into Promise now and the girls rarely mention her anymore. Get over it and let her rest
(And yes, this applies to Aloefags too)

>>65467037
She doesn’t. I’m still following her. She only block ddoxfags who kept going *wink* *wink* back to her Sana career

>>65461695
Nijisanji suicide attempt deflection thread.

>>65466815
/nasa/ lasted through all her breaks and was the most chill general. She had a solid fanbase on vt and was actually the gen favorite /here/ as much as you seanigs want to memoryhole it. She was the only one that actually stood out at first for it took the other autists a year to actually find their niche.

So special than her entire career can be explained in a 6min video

I'm a huge holofan but let's be real Sana was one of the most useless corpo vtuber of all times. Boring and talentless as a streamer, lazy and certainly not unique or special.

ALOE LOVE

>>65467215
She was an excellent streamer after she announced her graduation. It's a shame she took so long to show her potential.

>>65461974
>Can't have Korone so I'll go and make my own Korone, without yubis and bitches

>>65467215
She had the potential to at least be mid range of the 5 (6), but break after break murdered already staggered growth. Like, if she actually stuck with it and didn't do the back hurt and dead dog breaks, she'd probably be above Bae and Kronii at least

I still struggle to understand how Mori got on well with Sana and even vibes with Fuwamoco.

>>65467037
>source: the voices in my head

>>65467052
Same. I actually liked Sana while she was streaming, but like... She streamed for less than a year total and during that year she had multiple long breaks. She had about 100 videos in 11 months; Fuwamoco have over 200 in about 5 months, Bijou already has 150 not counting countless collab appearances. Sana was a pretty good streamer but also someone who very clearly did not care about streaming. She should not have joined Hololive to begin with even though she was, as said, a pretty good streamer.

Sana fans need to let her go. She's been gone much longer than she was actually active, and she wasn't SO good that her leaving is a blow to Hololive.

>>65461976
She didn't try to kill herself, Niji just sent a thug over to break some ribs and/or rape her in order to teach her a lesson.

>>65461695
Selen deflection but yes I agree she wasn't special. She was the shitter of the group for a reason. Also in big collabs it's clear she was the least funny/entertaining one.

But again, selen deflection lmaoooooooooo

>>65463016
Owlposter, shut up and get the fuck out. I'm gonna fuck your oshi now.

>>65461695
She had a lot of potential that she only started to fulfill during that last month of special streams and collabs, which were universally excellent.

>>65463554
>left her 15k in debt
>during Christmas
What in the actual fuck? I thought "black company" was just a meme

>>65461695
Yeah honestly she left basically no impact because she never bothered to put in much effort or show up. Rocking tits though.

>Sana was le special
>She said BEEEG lol so funny
>And she lied about back problems and graduated to play arknights
>We miss her soo much

Every single one of these fake fans are so fucking obviously fake

>>65468479
Selen spent her own money on this project and it didn't stick. Once again it needs to be said that no matter where your corpo hails from, they will gaslight you into buying your own tech (Ame), reimburse you "later" (Gura), mitigate your progress to nothing (IRyS) or just outright fuck it up at the final stages (Selen)

Astrogirl's only redeeming quality is the animation and I'm tired of pretending it's a good song

>>65468796
It's the same shit with Watame's new song
11/10 animation, dogshit/10 electro swing song with nonsensical lyrics

>>65461695
She was a lying, lazy chink who only got into Hololive through nepotism and figuring it would be an easy paycheck. Her model sucked too. Some people just miss her getting more fanart.

>>65468654
15k is about cat piss small for a corpo like this, riki can't be THAT greedy.

>>65461695
im not watching your clip

>>65468999
it could be 1k, or even 10 dollars, every corpo ever has their own training sessions on how to stagger financial requests. This is how Ame was roped into buying literally all the tech for the VR projects, and how Gura footed the bill for her new animation sequence, and most especially why Gura isn't talking about her QUEEN cover anymore.
It's literal mind games to convince you that 1) you want to get this done more than them and 2) you trust them to pay you back, so spend now since it's "coming back"

She had potential, but all completely wasted. At least her graduation led to the creation of Promise which is 100 times better than the old council

>>65468959
This. People like the faggot from the OP's video are just retarded twitter snowflakes who will sugarcoat things instead of calling things their own names. Many such cases.

>>65469205
Scrubbing Omega's influence is pretty cool. I'm happy for that.

>>65468999
Talents in JP corpos generally have to pay for their own songs, it's just that since it was Selen's music video was taken down by management immediately after it went up she's not gonna make any money out of it and is stuck with a 15k dolarydoos bill

>>65469298
Might have injured Omega's pride, but Ina still has a chip on her shoulder over it

>>65469205
>promise
I've never watched a single promise stream or highlight and I'm not going to after seeing a clip of that two-toned hair bitch praising a game for being inclusive.

>>65469382
Ina will probably never get another one of her friends into Hololive through word of mouth alone anymore. That kind of thing will stil happen (just look at how successful Gamers is), but Ina specifically probably lost that opportunity again.

>>65469461
Post the clip, dumb frog poster.

>>65461695
>Pissed on the opportunity she was given by Hololive
>Go draw chink gachashit instead
>Get replaced by AI because chink are cheap
mfw

>>65469515
My bad, it was advent. Still, Kronii's neighbor said she is a queer, so technically I didn't miss.
>Post the clip
Go ask someone for a catbox link or search it on YT, I'm not storing this shit on my PC.

Her butt was special

>>65469199
Ame always wanted to have her own mocap studio, she herself read several books on mocap technology before she started to set up her own studio. Ame never thought the expense was useless, she has even talked about that the day she is out of hololive she can use it to make money. Gura paid for all those animations and songs out of her pocket just for the love of art, and I'm sure she's already getting back four times as much with every merch that comes out. The queen cover is a tremendous scam that the music producers put on it just because she's Gura and obviously she didn't continue it because of that.
Spending 15k and that literally the only thing you have achieved is that people insult the company where you work once again for the abuse they do to you is a completly different thing

>>65461695
>Barely streamed
>Seemed annoyed whenever she did have to stream
>Boring in collabs
>Ina lackey
The signs were all there.

>>65461777
Nice trips.

>>65469528
I don't like Bae, but I must admit that she at least understands the opportunity and works hard, unlike Sana. So this rrat deserves the mating press.

>>65468114
Niji hired the Pinkertons to push her down some stairs

>>65465566
yeah this is a good point
compare this to Mori who is still active in her RM but only Mori can be UMG
on the other hand, Sana doesn't need Sana for her art career

>>65466276
She's the opposite of their oshis they use merely for escapism.

>>65467174
She was even well liked by the crossposters on /v/ which is how I ended up here. The fact that she's regarded fondly by people who are actually articulate and seem like genuine vtubing fans speaks volumes about her legacy.

>>65470272
So this is the kind of person who liked her. Kek.

>>65461695
I thought it was kinda funny that the best period she had was when she streamed a lot just before she left
Prior to that she was forgettable and a dogshit streamer

>>65469752
I mean, you can paint it however you want, but NOBODY logically should be spending their own money for a corporation, no matter what logical pathways they wanna take. IRyS and Selen are the most recent to be fucked over from perms for their own projects, but perm blocking has been a thing since like 2010, and corpo exploitation has been around since fucking Ford and Gold

>>65467482
the more you touch grass the more you learn how socialization works and learn to see people how they actually are instead of your own caricaturizations of them
but you can keep making retarded posts on /vt/ instead, it's your life

>>65469640
You can say you made it up, anon. It's okay.

>>65468635
They're not fake, they're real. Holobronies will lap up shit and tell you that it's good because numbers big and your company sucks.

>>65461695
If only they didn't give her massive honkers maybe her back wouldn't hurt so bad.

>>65470349
She was also top tier during her first couple of months, it just went downhill after the dead dog and just limped along until the graduation announcement when she went all out again.

>>65461695
Yeah, especially fucking fat kek

>>65467482
Mori doesn't obsess about her Hololive persona like Kiara did, and from the rrats in those days, Gura was a bitch, Ame was obsessed with beating out Gura, She already knew Ina, and she was still meeting the -reasonable to think- Councilmates trying to make sure they get in good with their new job, so weren't really all that ready to cut loose

>>65470563
Whatever makes you sleep at night trannie.

>>65461695
Sana was unique and with her big brown tits could have been -something- but a combination of her own entitlement and refusal to chase the numbers monkey meant she ended up 3viewed. Sana fundamentally didn't understand the job, stopped caring when she realized she couldn't just phone it in etc. The long break she took was weird too, mourning is good for humans but she claimed it was impossible for her to find a computer and phone and do a little zatsu? In almost-2024 or in 2021 someone whose job relies entirely on internet usage wouldn't be so internet-retarded (lookin at you gura).

Most baffling of all is that rather than accept her failure to perform, she apparently hates hololive now and blames holofans. Never before in history have people who do so little been so entitled. At least van gogh had the decency to admit he was doing it for passion, not recognition.

>>65461974
She didn't stream enough for koro-san to notice her. Collabing with Korone would have made the most sense around the time Fauna collabed with Watame. But it's not technically true they never talked, since she wished Korone and Miko good luck during their 24 hour marathon.

>>65461695
body swap her and Shiori, they'd be a better fit for each other's gens too

>>65461695
Who?

>>65461695
>shiori pfp

>>65468959
>her model sucked
>people only miss her getting fanart
anon... even in your own headcannon you still come out looking dumb.

>>65463245
>much effort you actually had to put in and how she also chose her "precious" genshit and arknights crap over the company.
And is now in the anti-AI subreddit or whatever crying that AI art is soulless when it's literally just a generic fuckin anime girl. People quite literally thought the communist dictatorship would be like "oh don't worry we'll secure your meme 'job' drawing jpegs!".

>>65471311
Her model had a lot of people insulting it at the time. But fanart made the bad parts look less bad and especially made her a lot sexier. Think of how IRyS 1.0 was mocked a lot, but fanart made it look better.

https://streamable.com/l0ea9l

>>65469215
50% of this board are outsiders who 'like hololive as a community' but never watch streams lmao. That's why small corpos have weirdly 'high' ccv for little nothing corporations while holoen's ccv seems to decline forever.

>>65471611
Thanks, I cried and I never even watched her

>>65461974
>>65470959
If you watched streams around then they respectively mentioned how they spoke to each other on Discord and through email, Watame and Koro both. I think Minecraft was big around that time if you decide to go digging for it, Sana was finishing her tower and Watame was finishing her Sana.

>>65472095
>expecting catalog sisters to actually watch streams or even clips

>>65463016
>avatarfags as le psycho Moom
>to shit on her close friend who she dedicated the Council 3D space to
>while describing le moom to a fucking T
I know you hoomans are bottom feeders, but come on

>>65471611
oshi graduation is so sad man

>>65472095
Oh man, watching Bae and promise try and find big Sana like, it's right there, in front of you! They had to back out because it was so much bigger than the other monuments

I blame Sana because her dogshit work ethic and weird ayylmao eyes caused a wide reaching idea that brown girls are a "debuff"

>>65461695
She had big boobs and was quirky so apparently she's forgiven for everything she does and beloved despite doing the exact same thing Gura is doing right now.

Everyone clowned on Ayame for making up bullshit excuses to take massive amounts of time off. Little did she know that all she needed was to be quirky and have big boobs and idiot simps would defend her to the death

>>65467925
>She streamed for less than a year total and during that year she had multiple long breaks.
There was something going on with management and Sana wasn't the only HoloEN talent that had a curious number of health breaks or long hiatus breaks.

>>65467314
>bandcam
come on, this has to be a shitpost

>>65469756
Nice attempt at rewriting history. She streamed more during her time in Hololive than Gura has all year

>>65461695
The most bizarre thing was the mass psychosis where everyone on this board suddenly started sucking her dick after the graduation announcement. She was damn-near universally hated before then but suddenly in that last month you retards forgot how much damage she caused to EN

>>65476731
Her model was just really weird. I recall a thread where all an anon did was change her skin tone to a different shade of brown and all of a sudden it’s 10x hotter.

>>65478347
It is a common phenomenon, sadly. And then there are newfags, plus Sanalites gaslighting people.

>>65478347
>how much damage she caused to EN
I'll bite, what damage?

>>65463541
Gura had a already soft graduated at that point.

>>65478628
It was only really noticeable if you were there at the time, but EN becoming lazy streamers was directly correlated with Sana getting away with doing nothing. It was incredibly obvious that everyone stopped giving a shit when they realized Sana faced no repercussions for underdelivering before Sana, Myth actually had a good work ethic. In the lead up to Sana graduating when she was not putting out, EN frequency started taking a nosedive. The december after she graduated was horrific. I think there were like 2-3 streams in EN. Total. For over a month.
I would actually credit Sana for being the spark that caused the current Gura situation.

>>65478840
>before Sana, Myth actually had a good work ethic
lmao

>>65479277
nice cope
you probably didn't even know what a vtuber was back then

>>65479277
NTA, and I don't remember the exact timeline, but they did actually have a decent streaming schedule for a while. Remember, Gura actually used to post schedules, and everybody used to stream often. Newfags don't remember this. However, I can't remember when some started to get lazy.

>>65479337
Nigger, before Council people here were giving Mori constant shit for the 5% thing and Ame for being so unmotivated.

>>65479695
Yeah when are schizos not bitching. Ame, compared to now, streamed WAY WAY WAY more. That's literally what my point is. After Sana, the frequency went way down.
Mori was about the same, but she used to have a bigger focus on EN. Now it's just her own career. But she's at least the only one of the bunch who is still consistent
If you deny this, you're either new or lying

>>65478840
ogey

>>65479367
She stated to get lazy around the same time council came around but at that time she herself claimed it was because of the burnout from the Minecraft portal server event and management being too slow with the perms to the point of her losing interest by the time they gave her the green light (that and the snarky comments over her asking for perms for too many games at once)

>>65479932
>it was different back then, well... BECAUSE IT WAS DIFFERENT, OKAY?

>>65480158
Yeah, in a quantifiable value called stream time. You a retard or something?

>>65478840
I find it funny that SEAnigs come up with these crazy stories about Sana making not streaming not having any consequences when you had people like Ayame, Shion, Aqua and Matsuri showing that Cover never enforced the stream quota before EN was even a thing

>>65461695
She was still in Hololive. That means something whether you like it or not.

>>65469789
>I don't like Bae
horrible taste confirmed

>>65484194
Is giving her credit for her hard work also bad taste?

>>65461695
eww

>>65469199
>and most especially why Gura isn't talking about her QUEEN cover anymore

Motherfucker Gura isn't talking about anything anymore.

What a nice thread we have here

>>65461695
if not eternal, why always weekly seethe thread?

>>65461695
arguably one of the best EN orisong. Plus she was alright in collabs

I didn't hate her, just wanted her to stream more, her artist job ended up being more important. Oh well, wasted slot and wasted model. I don't think we are going to see Pako make another one.

>>65478347
>hated
more like ignored

>>65461695
All women are special, all women are wonderful.

>>65466276
Popular theory was that her accent was to thick for them to understand since they're raised on burger dubs. As a burger I could see that because she sounded like she had a dick (mine) shoved in her mouth half the time while Bae is very clear and articulate.

>>65489786
true
i hate seeing composers and producers i like kind of wasting their talent on a random holo song

>>65491709
Nah, numberchimps immediately jumped on her even before debut because of her pre-debut numbers and started claiming it was because of her model being a debuff.

>>65461695
agreed

>rm blocks Sanallites
>stops streaming period
>literally all she does is gush over the bug game

>>65494650
Darker skin colours are a debuff though, look at Flare.

>>65478357
It looked weird because her shade of brown was kind of sickly looking and her shading in general was flat

>>65461861
A pity she refused to use that skill properly

>>65494945
Her RM account was always her endlessly retweeting fanart of her Arknigger characters even before joining holo and she only blocks reddit-tier retards who keep dogwhistling Sana every time she speaks

she was the best

>>65461695
Her model is ugly and her voice didn't help

>>65469528
the duality of aussie women

I don't even think of her that much anymore, even when I'm looking at the sanallite plush sitting on my sofa
Rest of her merch are kept inside a box
Seeing other people talk about her just pisses me off, including OP
Have you tried letting go?

I've always thought she was a solid streamer and had potential but the fact that she didn't even last a year before graduation pisses me off because she was just a total waste of a spot in hololive


At least her caramel tits were fat asf

https://youtu.be/fhzKLBZJC3w
You are my special~ doo doo doo doo

>>65505130
have you?

I didn't watch a ton of Sana but when I did she had some very odd stuff to say, which I think is fine to have in the sphere instead of generic vtuber #1200

Do I miss her? No
Would I prefer her being here over there being nothing? Yes

>>65461695
I liked her the most from Council. I just really latched onto her high energy at the start, and felt bad when she quickly lost steam and interest in streaming (poor chemistry, low numbers, dead dog, "back" hort). Her graduation arc was probably the happiest I've ever been for Sana, my favorite from Council. Her VA blocked me about a month later because I said something cringe. I had fun. I'm certain she's happier now than before. Please let Sana die, outside of the rare commemorative fanart.

>>65461777
this

>>65478193
>Forced streams
>Brings up the retarded Shark for no reason
Stop being a faggot anon.

>>65478193
>she streamed more than zero times
what a high bar you set there

>>65461813
I don't know I stop counted after the 50 graduated

>>65478347
I wasn’t one of them. I just laughed at how the graduation memes were real and left it at that. Sana didn’t want to be there and she was a terrible fit, so that was that. I was one of the people who completely missed out on her due to her interrupted momentum, and by the time I heard anything more about her it was always how she wasn’t streaming.

>>65468479
Its not a meme, but Selen is also a retard for not doing her due diligence before releasing the cover.

>>65461695
counterpoint:
>i loved her model (it's the only 90's anime styled chuuba i can think of).
>her fat brown tits were nice.
>she was a goofy sweetheart.
>astrogirl was legit one of the better orisongs, plus one that actually fit her - so many of the girls get songs that do not even remotely fit their styles/themes/voices.
it's a shame all the streams post-grad-announcement had such a fun and loose vibe to them, i wish she had found that groove earlier. it makes me think she could have been pretty damn good.

>>65461777

>>65461695
So that's why so many catalog threads have been coming out about her.
Fuck you clipwatching subhuman OP, never return to this place.

Im cursed to find female aussie accent extremely alluring and she had a nice voice. Also did fun content outside of pokemon autism which honestly was still pretty good as she went beyond surface-level engagement with the series. She had some wit about her and the playful banter seemed to keep her genmates a bit more interesting. Shame things didnt work out, first almost only EN I gave a shit about.

>>65463016
fuck off, I'm sad she left I wanted to see her two planetoids bouncing around on stage in 3d

>>65461695
Neither were you

Sana's presence unironically made Council look bad, the difference between Council with her in it and CouncilRyS/Promise is like night and day

>>65461695
Her face ruined her model

>>65461695
>The Unsettling Creepy EMPTINESS of Gura's Streaming Schedule

SANA LOVE

>>65461695
>"she wasn't that special"
>literally made a thread to discuss her a year after she is gone
Okay OP

>>65461777
Based

>>65509358
me on the left.

>>65461695
>Sana is literally dead
>still making seething threads to insult her
How fucking sad are you people? Seriously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQPsJYJKTGM
>will never get kino arguments like the coffee one with Sana and Ina again
What could have been...

>>65518741

>>65517909
It was that and the retarded hair ornaments.

>>65461695
i used to be mutuals with her on twitter back around 2011-2014. she was incredibly fucking weird in private. while i didn't spend much time watching her when she debuted because we parted ways due to her deluge of garbage opinion and generally bizarre behavior, i thought her becoming a vtuber made a lot of sense when i found out it was her because she is just SO fucking weird.
i don't know if something happened in the 7 or so years that radically shifted her worldview, but she was just not the same kind of person at all. it was like the bulb had gone out. i imagine it was also partly the strict corpo limitations tamping down on her. it still came out a little, like the astrology streams early on, but it wasn't like she used to be.

>>65476731

no one thinks brown girls are a debuff sana was her own debuff

>>65518741
Ina is a huge bitch. Her interactions with Sana are the only moments where she was getting a bit interesting.

Sananiggers are even more annoying than fancucks.

>>65519966
Rushia WAS special, tho. Pretty much the only definitive GFE in Hololive; everyone else is too either subtle or ironic to dedicate to the bit like she did.

>>65520627
you are not well informed on the state of hololive member content past or present if you think she was unique. but as a concession, i'll admit she was, at the time, the most dedicated to it.

>>65466712
It has been more time since she left than the time she was at the company, yet this shitters can't move on. Also they speak like they actually watched her when in reality no one did, she was the worst performer in all of holo EN for a reason.

>>65519015
Don't you FUCKING DARE!!! Call her, a -DARK- elf OKAY?!?!?!

Shame she didn't stay long enough for art of her being ravaged by old fat men to show up.

>>65467521
sup randy

>>65463079
>>65468336
>>65472535
>not recognizing 9am
holy fucking hell where do you tourists come from

nepo hire

good riddance

>>65520748
NTA, but please tell me who else does actual intentional GFE stuff? Like who will explicitly say they are your GF and stuff like that. I’ve been looking for a replacement since Lamy dropped it.

>>65521980
well you can start with polka since she's in the same gen you may find convenient adjacency.

>>65518741
>Ina "I like my coffee like I like my men"

>>65461974
Kronii collabed with Korone?

>>65522007
How tf is Polka more dedicated to GFE than Rushia?

>>65522007
Polka doesn't do intentional GFE anon. I personally wouldn't even consider her stuff GFE at all, more like a close friend experience, since she mostly just uses her mengens for venting and getting support.

>>65470959
If you travelled to Western Australia around that time the state government required a 2 week hotel quarantine for anyone trying to get in.

SANA ;_;

I miss her streams so much. Like that time she uh, that stream where uh, she streamed minecraft? I think or something.

>>65463568
just AI it if you can't draw, for fucks sake

>>65472095
i remember they made a stream and dedicated a moment to just climb her tower and read the book. that shit broke me desu

>>65461777
spbp

Hew whole character was just "tits" but her personality was "cardboard".

>>65461695
She was very special to me, she had the power to even make Ina come out of her shell and that was impressive.

>>65461695
Yes, she was. Stop protecting your worthlessness, anon
>>65461763
One day, you too will understand that back injuries are no joke, faggot.

>>65513479
she did, management just doesn't give a fuck then goes 1000% corporate punishment when they realize the JP higher-ups didn't like some noise and desperately try to deflect all blame to talents

how many Zaions and how many public humiliations of talents by management need to happen before you notice? holy shit

>>65530273
>One day, you too will understand that back injuries are no joke, faggot.
If that ever happens, then I'll pray to miraculously recover like her RM did on Twitter just after her graduation.

>>65532421
She was already recovering while still in Hololive.

>>65523060
On a new years stream with EN telephone, so group collab. Which btw is the only way a lot of JP will collab outside ither JP anyway to avoid having awkward language barrier dead air

>>65532421
months of healing is miraculous? lol

>>65461695
She was an Aussie.

>>65478357
Consider me curious. Do you (or anyone else) have the image?

>>65461695
I miss her once in a while, not my first rodeo losing one of my faves this ugly way. I really liked her streams, specially the long ones since they pretty much turned on relaxing zatsus, and she had this type of humor that nobody in EN, even with Advent now, has.
A shame things happened this way, I'm sure she would have loved to be dumb with Fuwamoco and Nerissa.

>before graduation
"who is sana"
>after graduation
waaaaah selen was so goood though guys im so sad :'( :'( :'( :'( lets shoehorn her into every holoen fanwork like she's dead irl and her ghosts haunts us.

>>65523324
literally nobody in this topic as said anybody does it more than rushia. reread what you're replying to you drooling invalid.
>>65523916
yes, she does. close friends don't romantically whisper "i love you" 20+ times in a row. again, you are not well informed and should not comment on this until you are.

>>65538183
Your script seems to be malfunctioning, nijidrone.

>>65538881
>but as a concession, i'll admit she was, at the time, the most dedicated to it.
>at the time
this very much implies that someone else is better at it now. If not Polka, then who?>>65538881
Fucking Fubuki and Fauna do romantic asmr. Doesn’t mean they’re GFE.

>>65461695
It's still in top 5 holo EN songs

Man I still miss her smile.. my first oshi, the pain still lingers

t. retard who watched two of her streams and now uses her oshi mark for pity 'cred' without having to actually spend time watching a vtuber not that she streamed much even before graduation either

so here's a question i've been thinking of.
if she stayed do you think she would've been more thought about or just kinda there?
i don't think she would've had any impact if she stayed.

>>65539138
no, it implies rushia was fucking terminated, genius. you can't do GFE when you're dead.

>>65539138
nta and can't comment on fubuki because eop but
>fauna does romantic asmr
LOL
LMAO

>>65484194
bae sucks ass. git fukt

>>65461695
Posting about sana should honestly be 1 month banned from /vt/, leave her alone already jesus christ

>>65529986
>personality was "cardboard"
Sounds like your average chink to me.

>>65521010
melanin-enriched elf

>>65520748
>you are not well informed on the state of hololive member content past or present if you think she was unique
In what world was the, at the time, most superchatted person in the world who was the queen of GFE, not special?

>most male audience
>fucking bread horoscope
Yeah she was special alright

>>65530657
>she did
If she was 100% cleared, it wouldn't have been taken down, retard. Not fully her fault though, there was clearly a lack of communication between her and management that led to this.

>>65463541
Yeah, that was my guess too, first one at the top dog of vtubing to go out. First time's special, and she handled it gracefully while in character.

Brown skin is a debuff

>>65461695
the truly special thing was her shota alter-ego she only used once and that made me realize I was bisexual. san please come back..

>>65461695
She was My SpecialZ

Man I love Sana

>>65546380
you move those goalposts, girlfran.

>>65551742
How?

Sana leaving killed HoloAU. Chammer's hiatus also didn't help, but it's not like they got back together afterwards.

>>65552226
there will never be an AU branch just like there will never be an ES, EU, KR, LAT, etcetera etcetera; all non JP and ID will be moved to EN if they speak English, if not then tough luck

>>65461777

>>65553809
One of the only based things she did.

>>65471342
I don't blame her honestly. Now more than ever, it's crucial to cement your name as a professional artist in the industry. You need to get to the point where your name is a selling point more than your work, or you'll be replaced by AI.
Wasting precious years on a side gig that you're not passionate about while your peers are grinding away isn't smart.

>>65469461
Well, you're posting the lefty frog now, so I'm sure you'll like it.

>>65461695
Wrong

>>65557153
NTA, but Pepe has gone from random react image, to meme image, to becoming normalfag accessible on Instagram and Twitch, to rare Pepe collecting, to being used in pee pee poo poo good boy points /r9k/ style stuff to take it back from normalfags, memeing the 2016 election, being a symbol of "White supremacy" by the ADL and Hillary Clinton, and now I have no idea who still uses him. Pepe is a mess of a meme that implies so many things simultaneously that he implies nothing.

>>65461695
best pokemon streams, not even my oshi can compare

>>65557429
>and now I have no idea who still uses him
It's crypto now. Every so often there's a meltdown on Twitter because Coinbase won't list pepecoin.

>>65562761
does the creator of pepe at least get anything
i can't believe people can just make money with someone else's IP like that so blatantly

>>65468999
>>65468654
>>65468479
>>65530657
These women eat good and applied to be vtubers without the required tech lmao.
At least Ames VR stuff is more than a PC but for serious, we can't even expect talents to upgrade their own equipment thats used for shit other than streaming?
I know they have bills to pay, families to feed, and partner to spoil but really? They gotta beg their boss for a better PC ( that also doubles as a personal computer?)

>>65553809
Kek oh Sana

>>65471311
the rigging on her model, especially her eyes and mouth, was dogshit. tracking was terrible too. the design was sex.

>>65490118
After the double combo with her and vesper graduation, I don't think so.

>>65555562
Tell that to her friend who's still doing comms, and working an idol job that's building stuff with GPT-4.

>>65461763
aw

>>65461695
>she

>>65555562
No one cries for blacksmiths replaced by factories 200 years ago or portrait artists replaced by the daguerrotype. Artists whose 'job' was specifically doing commissions of sameface anime art unironically deserve to starve.

>>65524087
And I'm saying it's pretty much impossible for someone whose job revolves around having access to the internet would just magically isolate herself from the internet for over a month "by accident cuz of government and forgetting my stuff at my apartment haha".

>>65571879
They know nobody's going to care, which is why they're grinding.
Banksy tried selling his art for $66 in NYC and barely anyone gave a shit. It was only when he revealed it was original works by him that their value skyrocketed.
Arts is a fucking scam. The value of an artist's name is what matters, and even if you aren't on the level of grift as Banksy, you'll at least want to be near the top of the list of people the industry wants to call when they're looking for artists in a post AI world.

>>65565628
He is literally too stupid to make money with his own IP because as much people talk about directionbrains who cannot let go of their team sports, he really focuses too much on team sports to adequately do monetization.

>>65572200
>The value of an artist's name is what matters, and even if you aren't on the level of grift as Banksy, you'll at least want to be near the top of the list of people the industry wants to call when they're looking for artists in a post AI world.
This has literally always been the case though which is why people reeing about the unfairness of it are baffling to me. People cared about Michealangelo, no one cared about his second cousin Redditardo.

>>65568339
The difference is, her friend still focused heavily on art in her side gig, and the majority of her fans know that she's a fantastic artist. In doing so, she's building her portfolio.
That's a different approach from completely separating her side gig from her main career.
It's a deliberate choice to preserve your sanity and mental health, but at the end of the day, you'd probably be better off just sticking to one or the other instead of juggling both.

>>65461695
I barely remember her voice
in fact I don't remember anything interesting she's ever said, played or done

>>65566462
other than idol i don't think corpos help you besides the model and facetracking stuff and your debut song, the rest you have to "unlock" via milestones
i think that's one area where vtubing is still behind the broader entertainment industry, especially since these corpos are allegedly making bank

>>65568339
Ina was no show for 3+ months last year but all of EN was low energy after Sana graduation and StarsEN debut so it didn't stick out as much.
Honestly when I think about it that way, that might be part of why Vesper and Magni didn't want to do formal graduations despite still being listed as alumni (and not just disappearing like others) on Cover's website, everyone would have to work until both of their last streams and those two were already done by that point.

Anyway I was just trying to say Ina might be juggling her duties, but to me it's clear one is still far prioritized over the other.

>>65463554
Do you guys really think that Nijisanji livers actually worry about a -$15k? Especially since the entire thing actually got made.

>>65576499
$15k is a lot of money, you kidding? Even for upper class people that's steel bracelet Rolex money to put it into perspective. Half of the US takes home less than $55k/yr.
And the point is that Selen herself can't monetize her investment because she can't even upload it on her own channel.

>>65576996
You really think that a creator of Selen's size and caliber has to worry about $15k?

>>65576996
>>65577074
For perspective, Mysta was going on vacation with $300k in tax debt.

>>65577074
I don't think anyone wouldn't blink at throwing $15k away unless they were Mr. Beast rich.
Selen is clearly not destitute but she's not Beyoncé level Fuck You money.

Pretending to be sad about her graduation is the most performative and reddit thing people do. I actually can't handle it.

>>65577248
She didn't throw it away. She spent it on a project that got released too early, which she then told people to reupload.

As an aside, I've noticed some of you use hyperbole for everything, and it's getting to the point where it's difficult to even interpret what you're saying.

>>65577074
15k is a couple months of a mortgage payment.
It's definitely not nothing, especially in an economy where most people gave up on home ownership.

>>65579253
Again, Mysta was going on vacations with $300k in tax debt. The idea that a $15k expenditure would have any lasting impact is exaggerated.

Chink thread

>>65461695
i'll bite

she was inoffensive and left no mark. special but not really. too ditzy, too meh with her karaokes, and her songs didn't leave a major impact besides Astrogirl. Never shone in a collab, but had some fun little moments with Watame and Fauna. Thats all I can say. She was here, and then she was gone. Oh well.

>>65579437
yeah, they love defending their gachawhore

That one stream where she made horse noises awoke something in me

>>65461695
Sana love <3

Why did she graduate again?
At the time I concluded streaming just wasn't for her. Her health was fine and she got over her dead dog so idk.

>>65532574
Thank god for Polka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y1tK40PN4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlaGGDOFeSI

>>65477873
That something was concluding she did not enjoy her job. And so she completed her one-year contract and left.

>>65530273
Work out your back muscles and stand up once in a while, and keep a good posture. It's not that hard, Gollum.

>>65461695
>seethe thread
>bump limit
ETERNAL

>>65469461
>Reddit frog spammer

>>65461695
This, her content and personality were ok but nothing special, her leaving didn't have a sad anime backstory either, she just didn't like it and did the spine hort until they nulled the contract. People certainly love to make a lot out of nothing, I guess it makes for a better title than "this blue dorito chuba was adequate, now she's gone"

>>65580317
>Pizza
That’s Ketchup. Famous for getting on the old Colbert Report. She just wanted something from OWS to happen. As usual, a doctored file from /pol/

>>65579481
She hasn‘t worked for them in ages

>>65580315
>bump limit
not yet

>>65579921
>Why did she graduate again?
Sana had as much choice in leaving as Vesper and Magni. She was fighting with management which is the obvious explanation for the "health" breaks, some of her mysterious comments in her VODs, and why those VODs were deleted within a day of her graduation announcement. Cover let Sana have a graduation stream but the other EN talents were clearly upset over what happened and their view of management became far more cynical after that.

>>65461695
Best thing she contributed was getting Ina to come out of her shell, if even only for a little bit.

>>65586841
all of council said sana opened them all up

>>65461777
trips of truth