/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

was this a kareoke stream?

>>65295741
No her new song

>>65295654
blackest of black management

I swear they want selen to graduate wtf kek

Niji has by far the worst management of any major VTuber agency to the point where I think they’re actively sabotaging EN. There’s no way they’re this retarded all the time

What are they hoping to achieve by treating Selen like this? Are they trying to force her out like they forced Mysta out? What is happening?

jesus, poor girl can't catch a break.

I have never seen a vtuber get fucked over so hard and consistently by management as Selen

>>65295654
are they actively bullying her into graduating?

>Last Cup of Coffee
Maybe it's a stealth graduation song and management didn't realized it since they don't even speak English.

>>65295654
She can sing?

Selen if you’re reading this
It’s time

>>65295654
she's been in a shadow war with management for so long lol, why do they fucking hate her? doesn't she bring in the good bucks?

>>65297187

>>65297187
No. Stop begging.

For the dragoons
https://gofile.io/d/0uO4kv

>>65297185
No. But she can be pleasant with the right conditions and editing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOjzua70dg&ab_channel=PetraGurout

>>65296258
there's probably a number of bad hires that are mismanaging the entire branch to the ground

>be "manager"
>talent submits plans for a new project
>eugh, i have to do a bunch of shit to make this happen
>either shoot it down immediately or drag my feet until the talent gives up and cancels the project
>whew, time to play gacha

>be "manager"
>talent's numbers are awful because i cancelled so many of her projects
>upper management is breathing down my neck to do something
>shiiitttt
>pester and ping talent nonstop on discord while she's busy streaming
>force her to end stream early
>rip into her with youtube analytics screenshots and yell at her to stream more often
>send email to upper management, "corrective measures have been taken"
>upper management praises me for my quick response
>whew, time to play gacha

>be "manager"
>talent releases a new song
>the whole thing is basically "i'm being mismanaged and i want to graduate"
>fuckfuckfuck
>tell talent to private it immediately
>she objects, saying she financed it herself and i didn't allocate any funds for any of it so she has the right to keep it up
>threaten her with bad performance reviews
>she tearfully agrees to take it down
>whew, time to play gacha

At the end of the song she turns back, looking at Nina and Mysta.

I don't think this was intended to be a graduation song but management seems to be trying hard to make it one.

>>65297344
it's gotta be a sign, idk if she's gonna join vshojo but she's definitely getting out of there asap

>>65296266
>>65296833
Selen has been getting screwed by management since the beginning. This is unfortunately nothing new for her.

>>65297344
Why did she think it was a good idea to include that?!?

>>65297344
Just Nina. Not Mysta

Nijisanji management has got to be made up of some of the biggest niggers in the entirety of the entertainment industry. It’s crazy that any of the talents still put up with that shithole company.

>>65297187
>Won't even send AME'S OWN 3D office data to Ame.
Hololive is worse.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1N8npET4dthlVGSsz8f49yb9IhI2K6IKd
Hey Niji management, I dare you to take it down.

>>65297592
mysta's hat ears are triangular

It’s like they actively try to fuck up kek, it was a cute song and the image of seeing Nina at the end could’ve just been her remembering old friends but now it’s gonna look so bad desu

>>65297344
Either got privatized due to >>65297344
or Selen asked LilyPichu for permission going behind management's back (due to them being slow as fuck) and wanted a cover done before the year was over.

Might as well get rid of the whole EN branch at this point since the management is shit and the talents aren't happy. Niji should've stayed JP only.

>>65297639
Hololive is bad but Hololive is definitely not worse. For being an org that paved the way for pretty much every other org, they definitely had a lot of mismanagement and still do to this day, but Nijisanji won’t even let their talent release a song

>>65295654
Nijisanji hates anyone that doesn't put hours into increasing the clique's numbers.

>>65297592
Those are Mysta's ears. And here's Nina and Mysta again right behind her.

its funny how millie sperged out about niji not being a black company only for them to pull this shit lmao

>>65297344
Literal meaning of the song: one day everyone will leave/die/graduate like Nina and Mysta.

But people will assume it means she will graduate now because Niji management is so bad, regardless if that was the intention.

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1739501756659507206?t=9-1394BeysY_pO0-zlcBgA&s=19
Nijisanji black company confirmed

>>65297892
she probaly got a raise from 2% to 3% for saying that, pls understand, that's basically a 50% increase in her revenue

>>65295654
what the fuck has selen done for them to hate her this much? it's undeniable at this point

>>65297960
who's this, I'm a tourist btw

>>65297892

imagine being a nijisanji fan unironically
you are literally supporting talent abuse

>>65297960
>10k+ for a cover
holy fuck she's getting scammed, lmao

>>65297960 that’s just sad. 0% chance of reimbursement too

>>65297960
yoooooo she's coming back?
>>65298060
rm

>>65297892
Beaten women defending abuser because when she serves him well he doesnt beat her as much.

>>65297187
Selen would be much happier reacting to videos all day without the stress of actually working.
Shes ours. Also it's literally the only way we get new members, sooooo

>>65297295
I usually tend to avoid rrating, but that's totally a song about graduating.

>>65297534
Only assblasted manager who is trying really hard to hide his own incompetence would care. Especially after the cover already got published.

>>65298088
not really, that's how much those things cost

Sasuga kurosanji

>>65298225
no

>>65298328
yes

AIIIIIIIEEEEEEE PLEASE TELL DOWN THIS THREAD, THIS MAY GET LIVERS IN TROUBLE

>>65295654
this is actually so absurd it's hilarious, even if the MV hints at graduation doesn't it look way worse to private the video? it's almost like they're confirming it themselves lmao

im not going to lie as soon as i saw this tweet, i got actually pissed of.

>>65295654
Dude that is really fucked up and I bet that must be a gift for her fans.

https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1739501756659507206

They fucked her

I'm a Holochud and pray for Yagoo poach to come true but goddamn why cant Kurosanji keep up appearances that they care about their talents at the very fucking least, holy fuck. Who's dick did Selen not suck to deserve this shit

>>65298460
yeah me

not everyone will get the nina missing you part.. ofc it will be a sensitive topic and all of u are now shitpiling graduation. i don't think that was a good idea to include that image that management needs to private it. good job selen, you know what u did.

>>65297892
Millie is joining the VShojo Minecraft server, Zentreya said it this morning.

>>65298460
>15k
this is basically "hire a lawyer" territory at this point

>>65295654
Should have joined the clique.
You don't have to be a selenfag to feel this is fucked up.

>>65298460
They being who? lilypichu? Is that how much she charged so that Selen could cover her song?

Goes to show the Holo way works the best. Keep the girls on a leash so weird menhara activity doesn't surface

If VSPO EN hasn't signed on Selen already they're missing a big opportunity.

>>65298630
art, mixing, editors, animators.
retard

>>65298460
WTF she financed something to put herself near the red for something someone else has the legal privilege to kneecap?

Why is it ALWAYS her???????? What the fuck is management doing?

>>65296258
>to the point where I think they’re actively sabotaging EN
By "EN", do you mean "every branch but JP"? As bad as it looks for EN, at least the branch still exists

>>65297834
Both corpos also have members complaining about mismanagement and if you sum up all of Hololive's fuckups over the years, it doesn't really look better than Nijisanji. The difference is that Cover generally gives off the impression of actually caring about their talents and trying to improve things, whereas Anycolor doesn't seem to give a shit.

>>65298537
Likely no legal ground to stand on because of her contract. Niji is going to hold ownership of the channel defacto control over what gets uploaded.

>>65298120
>Selen would be much happier reacting to videos all day

Who wouldn't want that? It's easy street.

>>65298727
vtubers do that all the time. do you think yagoo pays for every hololive cover song?

>>65297187
Get in line faggot.

>>65297187
>sorry, no perms for that
>or that
>nope, no perms
>asking the dev yourself? getting your own perms? accepting the blanket perms provided by the dev? No way, use the perms guy like everyone else
>he's on holiday for another month btw, no perms until he's back
Unless Hololive sorts their autism out, she's never joining.

>>65297185
She's trying her best

>>65298652
I kind of agree but isn’t like half of EN having a mental health crisis rn between Gura break number 748, Ame break, Calli depression, Kiara teasing graduation, and Irys mental health?

>>65298732
because she's one of the few good livers

>>65298757
>Both corpos also have members complaining about mismanagement
Really? Do tell, like what?

>>65295654
gura deflection thread

>what is this, nijisanji won awards in western vtuber competition? Very good, lets watch them.
>and the award goes to... it will be riku-sama, naturally. I am the greatest.
>what? Who is this purple dragon bitch that stole riku's award? Wait, shes one of my livers? Oh, so she is just here to claim it for me, because clearly I wasnt here to claim it myself. Very good.
>translator, what is she saying? "I want to thank my friends and family, and my fans?" Why is she not thanking riku for winning her this award?
>cancel her next cover song as punishment

>>65298847
>use the perms guy like everyone else
Who wants to bet Selen's cover got taken down because someone found out SHE asked for and obtained permission to cover it and not management?

>>65298847
The perms tism is at least understandable considering the Holocaust

>>65298919
There's no saving your black company, Nijifag. Your ship is sinking.

>>65298868
Unfortunately the life of having to stream 2 hours a week completely anonymously and get paid well for it is tiring on their frail constitutions

>>65298934
Kek he's the fucking grinch

>>65298829
>do you think yagoo pays for every hololive cover song?
Uh, yeah? The songs make money for them so it's a no-brainer that they're the one funding it. Why the fuck would anyone pay out of their own pocket?

>>65297592
That's Mysta on the right, dumbfuck

>>65298757
I could point to turnover rate as well as Hololive longevity to debunk this. I wasn’t saying Hololive was good, but Hololive isn’t in a controversy every week that ends in a member quitting/getting fired

>>65299034
watch streams lol

>>65299034
How new?

>>65299034
How new?

Potential perm conflict? Selen reached out to Lilypichu's producer directly. Sounds like potential for some Niji mismanagement fuckery to happen.
https://youtu.be/bjAgCErx8tg?t=3539
I'm a newfag so if there is some way to embed that isn't automatically done, I don't know how

>>65295654
it has to be personal at this point

>>65297187
Fuck no. Vshojo can have her

>>65299034
For their fans of course? Only vsingers and Mori(by UMG) get their songs funded, everyone else gets partial funding at best and help with contacting people

>>65299191
She's not part of the clique so yeah, it's very likely personal.

>>65299021
You forgot flying to Japan to fuck company execs

she's literally going to VSPO

>>65298868
jesas the absolute state of thread readers
Ame does have some issues going on bts, but shes also streaming rn
Most if not all of EN had something to offer yesterday, it was a great day to be an EN fan
Gura though.........well, you cant have everything

>>65298841
Fuck off we're full.

>>65295654

>>65299176
Welcome. Now lurk for at least two years before posting again.

>>65299176
More like corpo manager who's afraid somebody higher up will ask questions why was Selen allowed to do anything.

>>65299384
You actually expect these types to watch the streamers they talk shit about?

>>65295654
>Someone says something in defense of Nijisanji
>Nijisanji instantly doubles down on being a black company

>>65298868
If you actually believe Kiara was teasing graduation, you're a fucking retarded clipwatcher.

if you are a Selen fan you should be be supporting her graduation

>>65299176
Like 90% of NijiEN's perms were obtained by Selen personally messaging devs and asking for them, so I doubt it's that.

>>65295654
>feel free to reupload
Yeah, it's ogre.

>>65299384
I’m not even on here a lot, I just came to make fun of Niji management. A good chunk of what I said was confirmed by the girls themselves, like Gura constantly being on break just cause she’s “busy” and Kiara saying she was thinking about graduating

>>65299519
Nijisanji can't have Selen, someone who's not inside the clique, accomplishing things. Of course corporate had to step in.

>>65295654
>Asking people to reupload something management blocked after release
She's done after this. either leaving or fired.

>>65299462
fair point

I've been here since Lazulight's debuts and the way NijiEN has been going has just made me so demoralized.
I'm sure the usual posters will call this bait or act like no one could ever have genuine gripes but it's my true feelings. The branch started off with so much optimism and nowadays we don't even get to go a single day without drama, and even on feel-good days like today management just has to go and fabricate drama out of nothing. It's so fucking depressing that being a NijiEN fan is an emotional drain rather than improving my mood. Outside of my oshi's streams every time I come here I'm prepared to be bombarded with the latest garbage management or antis have cooked up to lower the branch's reputation even further.

Maybe this gives some perspective for anons who wonder why anyone would want their oshi to go to another corpo. Because I'm just fucking tired of the endless drama, I just wanna enjoy streams and buy merch without all the other baggage. I don't wanna have to worry about my oshi's mental health every day because her employer sucks.

>>65295654
braindead fucking ape management FUCK YOU

>>65299505
Did you not watch the stream where she outright said she was thinking about graduating

>>65299235
but mumei...

>>65299065
There was Rushia, Aloe, the entire CN branch + Coco

>>65297664
>>65298406
>>65297956
If they took it down because they thought it looked bad, it's hilarious that they kept up Reza from Niji ID's last cover before graduation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9leXLOQQkwE

>>65297187
Consider this first

>>65299644
I don't think she cares. Nuking a cover on Christmas would kill everybody's morale.

>>65299620
>>65299505
what kiara actually said was that there were a lot of things going on behind the scenes that wre putting her down to the point that she waqs considering if she should graduate and when she should do that, but that a lot of the things that were putting her down have sorted themselves out and that shell be staying for a while yet

>>65298829
The Holo girls aren't putting themselves in the red personally to fund projects

>>65299176
More like management realized it's a graduation bait song that ends with her looking at Nina and Mysta.

>>65299763
Ok cool, you've got a total of 8 over the course of three years. How many Nijis have been graduated in just this year?

>>65299763
rushia was her own fault for being actually insane, cutting off CN was like cutting off a necrotic appendage instead of hoping it wouldnt spread, you cant have talents in your company actively anti-ing other members and the headache of having to consider 'the feelings of the chinese people' was clearly not worth it to cover

>>65299964
>putting themselves in the red
15k should be nothing to a big corpo vtuber.

>>65299944
You know you’re right. I did blow that out of proportion. Admittedly I am nervous about the girls because I like Hololive, I don’t want them to graduate

You're a vile one, Tazumi
You have termites in your smile
You have all the perms autism of a jap businessman, Tazumiiiii

You're a foul one, Tazumi
You're a nasty-wasty skunk
Your yacht is made of play buttons, your scouting sense is junk, Tazumiiiii~

>>65299944
>What Kiara actually said
KFP are delusional. Stop twisting her words to fit your narrative.

The actual MV btw
https://gofile.io/d/KdaQfk
Check it out, it's pretty good and explains why it costed 15k

>>65300042
>you cant have talents in your company actively anti-ing other members
vshojobros...

>>65300068
BASED
HE GRINCHED HER ASS
RIKU HAAAAAATE

>>65299797
This Selen, consider this first

Think they'll tell her to delete this tweet since it's telling her fans to spread it?

>>65299964
they're spending the same amount of money. they just make more.

>>65300101
just say you dont and wont watch streams niglet

>>65300144
I think it would go nuclear at that point right? Basically every social media is already pissed

>>65300144
>tell he
they'll probably just delete it themselves and temporarily restrict her twitter

>>65300144
They'd have to. She's either telling fans to help violate a perm issue, or insinuating that its just manager autism. Neither is acceptable to management

>>65297187
No don't want a former nijinigger in holo
>B-BUT SHE IS HOLO-AAAAAAEEEEEEKKKKKKK
if she was holo material she would be in holo by now, now kys.

>>65300042
>you cant have talents in your company actively anti-ing other members
You can if you're kurosanji

>>65300101
>calling the person actually spreading the truth of what was said "delusional"
Mask's off, thanks for making it easy sister

>>65297187
Leave Holo spots for LazuLight, Selen can join VShojo

>>65300276
There's already a former Niji in Holo, retard. Enjoy the sloppy seconds.

>>65297187
Vspo is more then happy to take another formar niji member.

>>65300276
Oh I don’t care. She probably isn’t a good fit for Holo but I just don’t want her in VShojo

>>65300276
She would've been in Holo if it weren't for that faggot Omega

>>65300111
>"Someday" I'm gonna be fucking gone
>And I'll be smiling when I leave
wow
interesting song choice

>>65300344
>Leave Holo spots for LazuLight
Finana can fall on her neck and snap it for all I care and Pomu is the biggest homo collaber out there.

>>65297301
>>whew, time to play gacha
Lmao. Each time you posted this I thought about that bank manager who had a story about how they got a pissed off phonecall from a 30yo wagie because they stopped him from purchasing 5000 dollars of gachashit and emptying his bank account at 5 AM because they blocked access to his account until he resolved it and told them he didn't mean to spend 5000 dollars on gacha. Then when they cleared it up he spent all his money on gacha anyway.

Some kinds of people can't be fixed and gachagamblers are one of them.

>>65295654
MERRY CHRISTMAS SELEN

Management pretty much took all of their golden geese behind the shed and shot them, bunch of retards

This is amazing. I didn't think it was possible for NijiEN to get themselves into even more shit before the year was over.

this is too "graduation forecasting" to keep up. you might not like niji management but you can surely understand why it's privated. selen will leave soon. either fired, or quitting herself.

>>65299034
You're so fucking new it's actually amazing you managed to even find this place

>>65300558
When I resell my Arknights account for big $$$ you're gonna regret typing this, fucker.

>>65300587
a MERRY CHRISTMAS from the RIKU HIMSELF? I wonder how many niji social credit points it costed to redeem that

How does this even happen? Did management private it because Selen never showed them the video? What a shitstorm

>S-She's totally gonna graduate this time!!!
This is like the 100th time this has been said. It isn't happening.

Take a peek at niji general
They all shitting on selen for 'making everybody looks bad'
Insane behaviour, like actualy evil
Why are nijifans like this

>>65300625
Alternatively
>”oh this is a nice song about how nothing lasts forever let me cover it”
>management spergs out because of their own mismanagement

>>65300625
Yeah, that final image with her looking back at nina and mysta sealed the deal.

>>65300625
Probably more like a copyright or permission issue.

Was it the Mysta and Nina images on the MV?
I'm not sure if niji can show graduated vtubers images on official stuff.

>>65300344
Lazulight
>Pomu: even more of a battered housewife than selen and a massive niji otaku, will never leave
>Elira: literally has her own clique, everyone including management loves her, she seems to be doing great, will not leave
>Finana: unironically not good enough, unless she has a massive glow up theres no way she makes it

>>65298868
retard.

>>65300760
Is this Calli? I just got hard

>>65295654
HoloENfags are really desperate to poke another beehive with a stick and will have another just desserts when it backfires against them.

>>65300051
2% profit
No, all your play buttons are MINE!

>>65300614
Not only a Christmas miracle but also new NijiEN management way to celebrate the New Year, by fucking over one of your good talents

>>65300781
If Niji keep this up, It's going to happen

>>65298847
I know it's unlikely, but imagine if Phase Connect picks her up. Watch her swallow her words.

>>65300823
From who? Lily? She literally doesnt care about covers

>>65299650
>Maybe this gives some perspective for anons who wonder why anyone would want their oshi to go to another corpo. Because I'm just fucking tired of the endless drama, I just wanna enjoy streams and buy merch without all the other baggage. I don't wanna have to worry about my oshi's mental health every day because her employer sucks.
among the idiots, you've got me who understands you, anon. I'm sorry to hear, man. Enjoying my time with oshi so much and like zero drama. I know everyone memes Rushia, but she was also in a similar state like you. May your oshi or future oshi have more calm and peace in the future

>>65300781
The corpo is their oshi, and anything or anyone that makes their oshi look bad must be destroyed.

>>65300872
Mori Christmas anon

>>65300625
Niji management would have had to approve the video before it was ever uploaded

>>65299176
You're fine. Thanks for the info.

It was approved by management btw so that rrat is dead
https://twitter.com/127_sd_/status/1739511265259880614

>>65300879
Her tweet has now more likes than the tweet about the release of the song. People care more about the drama than the song.

>>65300823
realistically its probably this, or management wouldve told her not to encourage reuploading it anywhere right

>>65300797
That would be so much funnier actually

>>65299034
>>65299236
Adding to your post:
Mori used to fund her project herself before she joined UMG, and one of the reasons she keeps the cost down for her to do it frequently is she does everything herself, either writing the lyrics, or bringing in her own contacts for the project.
So yes, for EVERYONE else it can get expensive. Which is also why you see the same set of mixers and producers passed around by different holos, because they're not financial risks for the fact that they worked with other holos before - and some of those people are brought in by as a holo's contacts like Redshift from Reine, Fake Type/Kokoro Beats from Mori, etc

>>65300823
It goddamn better be or else it means they're getting a kick taking her out behind the shed routinely

>>65300886
Woops meant for this
>>65300774

Niji EN is in such a bad spot it's almost painful to watch.

>>65300987
what, you don't think niji "management" would've rubber-stamped it without even watching the thing?

>>65300625
ike's original about being shackled, stagnant and then rebirthing as something new is about the same level of graduation forecast

>>65297834
Nijisanji virtual entertainment affairs predated Hololive. As did others. You're a newfag.

>>65300993
what the fuck, I fucking HATE Nijisanji Management

>>65296266
I would guess because she is vocal about her problems with management they decided to take an axe to her shit as retaliation.

>>65295654
It means Get Lost.

>>65301152
First to be shit doesn't mean you paved the way

>>65300797
This lmao. Mori literally wrote a "graduation song" on her debut aka Live Again. It's management being paranoid as fuck, as if they're materialistic bugmen who cannot accept that things are fleeting.

>>65295654
Interesting...

>>65300993
If I were to speculate on what happened, Selen's direct manager approved it, but the managers higher in the food chain saw it and quashed the thing

>>65301109
One manager probably approved it while another didn’t see it until after it was uploaded and went over the other managers head to have it removed because of the graduation subtext.

>>65300823
>copyright or permission issue
how? please clarify

>>65301152
Fair point but Holo blew up first. Also if you’re calling me a newfag on VTubers I started with Kizuna AI but got really into them with Korone then again with Myth. But a newfag on vt yeah that’s also fair

Niji management is so incredibly retarded, I almost can’t believe it

>>65298100
>rm
Nijisisters call them pl

>>65301286
Holy shit, this dude is whipping out the caviar and truffles after the money he'll make on this video.

>>65300823
It's not a copyright or permission issue. Lily loves people covering and spreading her music, and Selen already made sure to get permission from her

>>65295654
Alright, why Selen? Why is she specifically getting roadblocked by management? Out of all of the livers that have done much shittier things, contributed less, and said downright horrendous stuff, why her specifically?

>>65301377
You take this too seriously, the dude was a clipfag.

>>65301300
Or it could be Nina's manager seeing the song for the first time and complaining to higher ups.

>>65301286
You should have killed this faggot when you had the chance nijisisters. Now he's holding a grudge and isnt gonna stop with the "bad" news.

>>65300781
To nijifags, making their company look bad is the worst thing you can do. It's why they hate Mysta now

>>65300823
She personally messaged and got the okay from everyone involved. She had permissions.

>>65300781
They're a big part of the reason why Nina and Mysta

>>65301514
You thought the clique was a joke?

>>65301514
>specifically
Is it not a common theme to have livers bitching about being cucked out of projects? Wasn't that one of Ninaur's big gripes?

>>65301286
lol the newsman commeth nijikeks

>>65297661
>>65299050
>>65297879
That's Ninas hat you dumbfucks and Nina had fox ears because she was a fox

Nijinigg's OSHIT is Anykuro

dont ever run into me by any means Nijinegros. i'll gouge your eyes out with a fork. fucking nijiniggs

>>65300797
the funniest outcome of this whole fiasco would be if
>1. management was just being paranoid and the cover wasn't meant to be gradbait but
>2. this was the last straw for Selen and she quit for real right after

>>65301600
NTA that's just depressing how all of that time, work, and effort on CHRISTMAS DAY gets wasted. If I was a Dragoon, I would turn into an anti to Kurosanji at this point.

>>65300625
I'm sure blowing the cover out of the water really helps the situation.

Honestly I hope the EN branch collapses so the talents there are freed from such shit management

>>65301286
Sisters, what are we gonna do???

>>65295654
I would feel bad but I don't pomu and her both have to blame themselves because they continue to support this black company out of blind loyalty. Please Selen I know you're here, if you're reading this reach out to pomu talk to her and graduate there's a home on hololive for the both of you.

>>65301286
Nijibros... he's going to report the news... do we have any copyright strikes left to deploy?

>>65301711
>funniest
I would consider that the best outcome

>>65301692

>>65301711
Nijien is just making selen look more and more like a battered woman that cant leave their abuser bc they are so afraid of getting killed for walking out.

>Gura and Selen drama on Christmas
Honestly both should just quit, right sisters?

>>65301286
MERRY CHRISTMAS FLASE
from: nijisanji

>>65299430
Tell me it wouldn't be kino.
>first real corpo switch (vshojo is a gang, after all)
>bury the selen/phase feud
>reinforce the poach connect meme (since nobody cares that they absorbed tsunderia anymore)
>Attract a wave of seething chinks towards phase, resulting in boosts in visibility
It would be fun

>>65301886
WTF IT'S HER

>>65301286
This fag probably prays every night that Niji management continues being retarded

>>65301919
What Gura “drama”?
Another day where she doesn’t stream?
You shouldn’t even care at this point

>>65301886
Where is Zaion though?!?

>>65300614
Didn't think I would see my wife posted here

>>65295654
As someone completely unfamiliar with Nijisanji, is this like AEW fumbling the ball with CM Punk?

>>65301991
He doesn't need to pray when they keep being retarded on their own

>>65301471
>previous liver
how grotesque

>>65301919
>Unprompted Gura
seethe
Suck Gura's pee directly from her CUNNY CUNT. SISTER

>>65302108
God I wish.

>>65302032
I dunno but she spent 15k on this Christmas cover about how she loves her fans and days in nijisanji only to get it permanently privated

You people are seriously bored and have nothing to do right?

>>65301886
yeah that's Nina, wtf

>>65302032
Nah. If Selen and Pomu bail come renews, that's the CM Punk situation. Losing this song on Christmas, it's more in line with Goldberg punching the window open in WCW and putting himself out of action for 8 months. It's self-inflicted idiocy

>>65298460
didn't expect a slide show to cost that much. that 10k bae won means barely anything in the grand scheme of things.

>>65302170
bootlicker detected

>>65302170
We can't be bored when Niji management keeps providing us with entertainment like this, and on Christmas Day no less

>>65302170
Go fuck yourself, NIJI manager

>>65300625
It's a LilyPichu song. They are melancholic. The original song was about how everyone you love will leave you eventually, but you should appreciate the current moment. And Lily's most famous song is about suicide ideation. The subject matter is dark but her songs are about the struggle to be happy.

>>65302170
put a bullet in your brain retard

>>65302235
Pomu is never quitting as long as Luca is there.

>>65302283
>>65302286
>>65302294
Just be careful, HoloENfags. You don't want it backfiring against you do you?

>>65302170
I'm chilling by the fireplace on boxing day morning while watching nijisanji retard themselves into another yab. Life can't get any better

>>65301692
Nina's ears are furry and completely white on the back, and her hat is black. But feel free to continue being delusional if it makes you feel better.

>>65302249
>slide show
It's a full MV nigga, maybe not actual animation but it's animated

>>65301937
I always thought the poach connect meme was about Lumi and Yuri? Tsunderia killed before Phase "poached" any of their talents.

>>65302310
Sorry anon, I'm not addicted to drama unlike you.

>>65298847
The fact that the whole permissions thing and how it works is STILL a fucking mystery to everyone kinda shows how fucking weak cover is at handling them.
>they lost them
>they had them but lost them
>they had them but it was a physical fax machine paper they literally lost in the office
>they had permissions for ID but not JP so ID wasn't allowed to play
>they had JP permissions so it was ok for JP to play but not ID
>the devs and publishers said it was ok but cover wasn't ok with it
>they have permission for a limited time
>they can't get permissions for old games
>they can get permission for some old games
>they can both get and not get permissions for old and new games and sort-of old games but not super old but new ones but not really maybe, but they can, but they can't, but no, but also yes
I'm kinda sick of it.

>>65302032
I don't think it's in any way similar unless Selen has ranted and raved about how shitty everything about another company she left is before pathetically coming crawling back to deepthroat their boot when she gets fired for trying to pull a 360 ladderstall noscy on Riku in APEX after blasting Petra and Wosemi in the face following some light arguing

>>65302322
What the hell is this lmao, do you expect this to sound threatening? ALso literally none of us said we were HoloEN fans, rent free much?

>>65301286
Sasuga False-kun.

>>65302193
Nina is on the left retard, I can’t believe I had to save this image

>>65302331
I'd be very careful about that. You don't want karma headed your way do you?

>>65302403
kek copied wrong version without reading
EN obviously

Every single niji thread that isn’t a general somehow devolves into holo vs Niji shitflinging. It’s actually impressive to see anons deflect away from their own liver telling her own fans to reupload the song anyway because she has no hope of getting the song up again

>>65302306
Lily's song are peak "depressed charmed millenial"-core. It's thoroughly pathetic and she should take her suicidal ideation to the next level (she won't because she's not depressed, she just enjoys the aesthetic).

>>65302370 (me)
killed itself*

>>65300879
I look like this and I say this.

>>65300987
>manager barely understand English words
>cute song about being cute with friends
>doesn't pay attention to the meaning

>>65302170
niji manager spotted

>>65302421
Maybe don't poison yourself with this gossip crap because otherwise it'll backfire on you.

What is niji managment smoking

>>65298460
HOLY FUCK

>>65302539
Lmao ok buddy, I'm sure Niji will turn this all around and everything will be okay. Wouldn't THAT be a Christmas miracle, huh?

>>65302502
t. Nyanners

and Zion?

>>65302447
Damn, Nina looked like this? No wonder she likes being a cockroach.

>>65302370
If nobody cares about tsunderia already, cyberlive is not even a faint glimmer of memory in a rearview window.

>>65302403
Kek yeah I fucking hate perms autism as a whole. Doesn't matter what corpo it is, as long as it has it, it just fucks the chuubas hardcore. To their credit, Niji does seem a bit better at getting games? I've seen them get perms earlier for fun things, but the whole thing is such a fucking enigma to me.

>>65295654
>"management has privated the Song."
oh ok maybe there were some copyright bs, or maybe some kind of mistake in the audi-
>"Please feel free to reupload"

>>65302403
If you understand how copyright trolls operate it makes sense

>>65298460
>lost
How was she planning on making the 15k back? Selling the cover?

>>65302447
wtf that clearly says mysta rias on the left

Yeah guys everybody that has had problems with NijiEN management in the past and present was wrong and the corporation could never do anything wrong. Trust the clique!

>>65302498
Holo deflection is the only thing Nijifags have left, you can't really blame them

>>65302598
I'm confident nothing will happen. Worry about Hololive not getting into a similar situation.

>>65298150
Not a dragoon myself but damn the MV and lyrics hit hard.
This is 100% her graduation swan song.

>>65302656
Niji just accepts open perms like statements on webpages while Cover wants it on paper

>>65302549
Selen's money and perms

>>65302759
Oh believe me, I'm not too worried lmao

>>65302511
Based

sO... anyone here remembers something called the curse of the 25th?

You can call me schizo all you want, but I have this feeling that this >>65301886 was snitched to management. And I'm not talking about antis sperging on twitter, I'm talking about inside snitching. It's undoubtedly that Selen communicated to management about releasing the MV, but I don't think they got their ways to watch the whole thing just to catch a few frames at the end, so someone saw it and told them about it, demanding actions to be taken.

>>65302724
Making her fans happy, you think she spent it because she really wanted to have a really pretty MV?

>>65302821
Yeah. The newfags don't know what's tradition for Hololive.

Maybe I don't get it because I don't work in business or PR, but taking the song down would do more harm to their reputation than good, so why did the managers do it anyway?

>>65302447
What's this? Looks like AI art

Merry Christmas
Lmao

>>65302821
It started way back in 2017 before vtubers were huge. On Sept 25 2017 they fired the director of Kemono Friends

>>65302854
He's asking why she's suddenly struggling with finances now, after it got removed, when she was never going to recoup the amount spent anyway

>>65302917
>On Sept 25 2017 they fired the director of Kemono Friends
and now kemono friends has vtubers hmmm

>>65301886
>>65302330
I'm a big enough person to admit when I was wrong. I was looking at the image wrong and thought it was Nina's hat sideways.

>>65302950
She's not really struggling with finances, she's just leaking that she spent $15k on this only for management to spit in her face.

At this point she might as well take the song as actual foreshadowing to bailing.

>>65302899
Petty managers.

>>65302950
Because she was willing to tighten her belt for a while for that
Now she's aware that she's going to need a money stash really soon

>>65303045
Fair and based

>The company can do no wrong! the talents can go fuck themselves!
typical corporate bootlickers

https://twitter.com/MillieParfait/status/1739518726758940757

lol

>>65302950
It's sending a message anon. Unless she was planning on launching a line of merch that the video was integral to she wasn't going to make more than like a hundred bucks off that video, tops. The fact that it was all wasted is what makes her want to tell everyone know just how much vanished with it.

>>65300587
How can anybody work for a man who has such shady punchable face like this guy?

>>65302468
Oh don't worry there's plenty left for Niji from Aloe

>>65303184
what a strange thing to ask in public

>>65303184
Oh fuck
Millie what, whatbthe fuck did you do?

>>65303242
After all the time she spent defending the company? Of course she's going to blame Selen publicly.

>>65303184
I’m a tourist is this backhanded or is Millie just autistic

>>65303184
Is she actively being deployed to run defense and spread doubt or something? This reads so unnatural.

>>65302950
>release cover
>ad revenue helps cover SOME (not all) of the losses
>cover gets pulled, with apparently near 0 chances of getting put back up
>now losses are definitely not covered at all
>proceed to try and cover the losses via a different method that doesn't involve superchats that involve a cut from YT + Anycolor.

>>65303184
KEKK ALL OUT CIVIL WAR

BASED BASED BASED
Stop lying, Selen, you dirty whore!

>>65303331
Not only backhanded but most likely Millie had a hand in it

>>65303184
What a piece of shit bootlicker. Why would you not give your coworker the benefit of the doubt over the company?

>>65303184
THE WAR HAS STARTED LMAO

>>65303352
Riku is now seething and will probably ask her to lawyer up or desist. You know it.

>>65303184
>wtf selen did you forget get permissions from management? what are you stupid?
lol
lmao even

>>65303392
KEK is this real? Millie…

>>65297187
>wants an apexnig in holive
lol no

Why does all the drama in the last few days goes back to Millie?

>>65303184
uhhh wtf nijibros i thought she defended the company????

>>65303331
It's outright punch like you would see in shitty high school movie where a girl pours juice on MC and then asks if she's okay in public
The most basic-bitch woman pettiness

>>65303184
>>65303392

>>65303184
What a fucking bitch and boot licker.

>>65303184
This bitch is the Draymond Green of nijichangji her sole existence is to do the dirty work for them. What a stupid bitch.

>now they’re infighting
Jesus Christ people what is wrong with this COMPANY

>>65303392
how did these girls knew watching niji burn to the ground was my christmas wish?

>>65303481
>Millie running damage control yet again
Managers have sent their girl in, it's all under control people

>>65303392
Is Millie really doing damage control for this fucking corp? How does Tazumis taint taste you fucking snake

>>65302899
It's definitely bad PR, there's no way those managers know what they're doing.

>>65303567
It's not a company, it's a clique that actively bullies people.

>>65303559
Who's the D'Angelo Russell of NijiEN kek

>>65303184
she chose a side

Would be a shame if we had someone involved in the project saying that it was approved...
https://twitter.com/127_sd_/status/1739511265259880614

>>65299763
>There was Rushia, Aloe, the entire CN branch + Coco
...as opposed to Niji with Lulu, Gundou, ID branch, that VR brothel branch, Sayu, Mysta and Nina among MANY others?

>>65303184
Is she fucking autistic?

>>65302899
They were too busy sucking their own dicks ti realize it was a bad idea

>>65303507
Because she's probably instigating

>>65298225
They really don't. But it's entirely possible people overcharge more popular vtubers.

>>65303392
Enna didn't send her best

>>65303647
jesas

>>65303698
You mean to tell me Millie likes drama?!?! No she’s just bootlick- I mean defending her black- I mean respectable company!

>>65303632
Probably enna with khyo being kwame brown.

>>65303574
>>65303577
>damage control
Looks more like passive aggressive bullying to me

>>65299065
>Hololive isn’t in a controversy every week
You sure about that?

i knew it
as a flip i wouldnt trust myself

>>65297301
sounds realistic actually.

>>65303647
wtf is wrong with nijien management lmao

>>65303184
>ALL OUT WAR LMAO
>turns out it's an ALL OUT CIVIL WAR LMAO

>>65303830
Holo is in a controversy every 2 weeks, just wait 2 more weeks sis

>>65303184
>Trying to damage control again, implying that it wasn’t management’s fault
What does NijiEN management have over her?

>>65303830
>pretending any recent hololive controversy comes even close to this
holy cope lmao

Millie is either peak retard or peak peak peak malicious

>>65303830
Positive. Aside from random Twitter users complaining about Mori’s music and random members on this board doom posting, there’s not really any major controversies. Shion went on a planned hiatus but that’s not really controversy, especially compared to Niji imploding on itself lmao

>>65303647
Selen told him it was approved, but it wasn't approved by management. She asked for perms directly not involving management on purpose.

literal bullying

I wonder why they still haven't fired the fat bitch, clearly they are showing that she is a nuisance to them at every step, I doubt she makes much money for them, especially when they cuck her at every step, real mystery why she is still in kurosanji

>>65303516
She IS defending the company with that tweet, anon

>>65303866
I have no clue what exactly is wrong, but they are so incredibly incompetent it’s honestly hilarious

>>65301996
she had to be erased just like with Maria's Identity cover

>>65303897
>>65303912
>>65303957
With how this catalog behaves every day Hololive may as well have nonstop controversy looming. Be very very careful, anons.

>>65303990
She’s fat? Proof so I can jerk off

>>65304223
You're still here, vaguethreatchama? You went quiet for a while, I was worried.

>>65295654
As a holofag I feel like in supposed to hate Selen but honestly at this point o just feel bad for her.
I think she deserves to be picked up by another company. Not saying it has to be Hololive of course, bit Id rather she go somewhere that doesn't promote lazy twitch slop content.
She should be allowed to let her creative batteries stay charged.

>>65304223
You missed the part where you show my oshi's ip

>>65303915
>Millie is either peak retard
Yes, always has been
>or peak peak peak malicious
Also a possibility, but apart from being best friends with Enna I don't think we have any real reason to assume that

>>65304237
Her face looks like a food plate, you can find it yourself, like someone stretched an asian face across the screen.

>>65304387
> As a holofag I feel like in supposed to hate Selen
Why would you? Plenty of Holofags like Selen, even more so when she is supposedly a good friend of Moom and has been pretty friendly towards Hololive

>>65304223
Yes, another malding over no Gura's stream.

Kyo's been all but confirmed to be gone next year, wouldn't be surprised if Selen bails too.

>>65304677
>Kyo's been all but confirmed to be gone next year
Oh...
Maybe Selen should stay then. Things are looking up

>>65302759
>backfire, backfire, backfire.
You sound traumatized, anon. Did hating on Holo blow up that often in your face?

>>65304387
>As a holofag I feel like I'm supposed to hate-
Are you retarded? Why are you 'supposed' to hate anyone? It's not a sports team.

>>65304677
What's the rrat?

>>65300404
who?

selen gets good foot art

>>65303184
lmao

>>65304677
Kyo is probably the only member of Nijisanji that is nothing without NijiEN and its management

>>65304930
That your post I take it?

>>65304790
Someone in one of the male threads spotted his IRL name on the private waitlist of a large vtuber character designer that's part of a guild similar to Iron Vertex. It's marked ass "OFF STREAM" so it's being worked on in private but there'd be no reason for it to be a Niji project because it isn't marked NDA like some of his other works on the waitlist are and it uses Kyo's IRL name.

>>65302108
hey man, cute chuuba, when is she streaming?

>>65304995
No, it's me :)

>>65304995
Yes, ofcourse, every screenshot of every comment that anons think are funny are made by anons on this board.

Best time for any nijiEN member to start promote their RM. Next year is going to be fun.

>>65302899
You would be surprised but if someone's working in a certain field that doesn't necessarily mean they're good at it

>>65304983
I'm sure he'll do alright now that he's milked what he can from them as far as exposure goes. He's not going back to normie webcam content most likely especially with Omegle gone so he'll just leech off some liggers and 4views for a bit or join vshojo for a quick buck

>>65298630
She commissioned a LOT of artists from her community as well as others to do the art for the cover as a gift to her fans, and then add the editing, subtitles, production.

>>65304827
They took a former niji for their JP branch, don't see why they won't do that for their EN branch, Selen kind fits their too.

>>65304677
>>65305001
If only.

it is time.

spoonfeed me, whats selen rm twitter?

>>65305504
literally in this thread anon

>>65297960

>>65305565
yummy! thank you senpai~

>>65300523
She's very open to her community about her leaving someday. She talked about it multiple times now that she won't do this forever. They joked about how dragoons will be watching her future 60yr old blended food review from their community homes lol

>>65303392
Bruh the fact that she asked if Selen "the nijien events organizer" had perms is fcking dumb, and in public too.

>>65303184
Look the truth is she is living large off the 1-2% in flipland as that is a lot of money to SEAnigs, so she must suck Riku cock otherwise she is going back to working help desk for AT&T or whatever other flip job she can get

Maybe McDonalds worker in Bahrain

>>65306053
>and in public too
It was meant to be in public. That was a damage control post to sow the doubt that maybe it wasn’t NijiEN management’s fault, but Selen’s mistake instead

>>65306053
The reason this was done in public was to discredit Selen and run damage control for management. Not the first time Millie's been chosen for this role either.

>>65305001
oh shit

>>65299650
I used to be like you anon. My oshi graduated, I cried, and then she debuted in Vshojo. Now she’s happier than ever, playing her autistic games, and with a silver play button

>>65298847
t. Vesper Noir and his disregard for risk management

>>65302851
It was Millie

>>65302797
This autism has proven to be effective and has saved them before. If it prevents a single bad event then its worth of it for them given the effect they have.

>>65299191
Selen's not part of the clique just like Nina wasn't.