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...Before everyone in Nijisanji EN after Lazulight.

>> No.65261427

>>65261297
I’m not defending nijisanji because it’s obviously a black company… but obviously it’s easier for a corpo to make 3d models of one person compared to 40 nijilivers. Vshojo debutd talents one at a time so each individual talent would have a lot of resources dedicated to them

>> No.65261454

>>65261427
Also their 3ds look like Vrchat models. Ngl.

>> No.65261702

>>65261297
And yet every Niji model looks better than Vshojo's models.

>> No.65261815
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>>65261297
I'm happy for him.

>> No.65261877

>>65261427
Weren't NijiEN supposed to have a 3D live 8 months ago? Are you saying they never even had the models ready?

>> No.65261996

>>65261427
I think it's less of a resources issue than massive amounts of red tape and 20 autistic nip managers needing to approve every step. Niji actually has more resources than VShojo.

>> No.65262119

>>65261454
It is VR chat isn't it? Henya's model was janky as fuck, so I thought it was.

>> No.65262323

>>65261297
>vrchat 3d shit

>> No.65262330

>>65262119
I think so honestly he showed off his "3d" on stream and it was literally a VR chat model. No mocap suit, no actual stage or studio, just a VR model.

>> No.65262344
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>>65262119
Yeah Niji is a black company either way, but their standards for what even counts as a 3d debut are significantly higher than vshojo. There is no chance that Kuro's model looks anything on the level of Pomu's 3d model, but at least he'll be able to use it lmao

>> No.65262440

>>65261297
Niji maybe black company but Vshojo is retarded for advertising Vrchat models as 3D.

>> No.65262471

>>65261427
>>65262344
anycolor dont have any characteristic of a black company. Call them a shitty company or whatever but they arent black

>>65261996
its very much this

>> No.65262558

>>65262344
...you know kson and nazuna have 3d models by the exact same guy who made coco and rushia's 3d models?

>> No.65262790

>>65261877
NijiEN is managed so badly that it's surprising they even tried to arrange for a 3D concert when the models weren't ready. They had overly ambitious plans for 3D debuts but the EN vtuber market has declined and they are waiting for a rebound that is unlikely to happen for several years. Should have gone with affordable 3D models and VShojo understood that while NijiEN management is still waiting.

>> No.65262806

>>65262119
Currently she has a concert model, some fan made models, and a chibi model that Vshojo gave her. She's having an actual 3D model made right now that she'll debut next year.
https://youtu.be/RHha2CWsYU8?si=OFk6IC4cc3rAs0FL&t=96
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MNSBhd0EaA
I know that Froot has a 3D model, and Zentreya, Mouse, and Melody already have multiple 3D models.
https://youtu.be/4jO-8rLnZUU?si=fEr_hZo_qTZvEHX3&t=688

>> No.65262812

>>65261454
>>65261702
>>65262119
>>65262323
>>65262440
sour grapes nijikeks enjoy no 3d until your livers graduate

>> No.65262845

>>65262440
they are 3D therefore they are refered to as 3D models.

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>>65261297
lmao no fucking way

>> No.65262939
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>>65261297
Hey man micro corps get their 3D in 1 month and they get 3D concerts at that short of a time as well
Look here at Pomus vampire sister, here she is flexing her 3D model and I repeat it took only 1 month for her. How long did it take for Pomu? Oh she doesnt have a functional 3D model lmaaaaooo
https://twitter.com/koumariya/status/1737613221845189039?s=20

>> No.65262953

I’m geneujbely wondering but for stuff like this (new l2d models, VRchat 3d models etc) do the members pay out of their own pocket for or is it commissioned by vshojo

>> No.65263005

>>65261297
Dang, even PK has 3D, what tf is going on at NijiEN

>> No.65263024

>>65262953
members 100%, think of vshoujo as a merch peddler, they get a cut of all the merch and nothing else so they do that part and in general help with day to day stuff but it is on the talents to pay for extra models etc

>> No.65263033
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>>65261454
>>65262119
>>65262344
>>65262323

>> No.65263055

>>65262558
Kson rented an actual studio with her own money for her ani live, nazuna's 3D debut was a laggy 15 fps hell, probably because it was just vr chat.

>> No.65263062

>>65263033
Unironically cute.
Trying to pass off a VR chat model as "3d" feels wrong

>> No.65263063

>>65262939
damn pomu sister is pretty hot

>> No.65263084

Funny but the vshojo 3D models I've seen look like ass compared to Niji's 3D.

>> No.65263087

>>65263024
Then… Comparing this to the speed of bigger corpos is pretty dumb right. I mean I know it’s just a bait thread but still

>> No.65263103

Everyone at Niji technically has a 3D model if we count VRchat ones.

>> No.65263136

>>65263024
https://www.twitch.tv/apricot/clip/RelievedTallVelociraptorBabyRage-_9Gs-gMY2PaQvDat
they get a small stipend for assets

>> No.65263172

>>65263063
She does GFE ASMR and even semi-licked ears for a couple of seconds in the last one
She is great

>> No.65263198

>>65262939
>Oh she doesnt have a functional 3D model lmaaaaooo
idk it looked pretty fuctional at Nijifes

>> No.65263208

VR chat models can't be used anywhere but vrc, you can't really use them for games unless you're in VR. You also have a constant need for a VR headset which weighs a fair bit too.
Comparatively with the Niji app you can access your 3d model so long as you have the camera equipment at home to use it.
I'll also be honest with how much time a lot of the people just spent in Japan, I'd guess 3D isn't far off. I'll also point out that Niji just got more nendroids including the rest of his former gen and scale models.

>> No.65263246

>>65261427
Dude you don't even get youtube buttons kek

>> No.65263250

>>65262939
>even some nobody corpo, months old chuuba is getting 3D
sisters... your response?

>> No.65263277

>>65263208
That's a lot of lies too bad i'm not reading them

>> No.65263314

what is up with all these technologically illiterate retards raving on about "vrchat models"
a 3d model doesn't count as a real model if it doesn't follow the standard MMD names for bones and morphs???

>> No.65263324

>It's a Rebecca thread
>Nijifags are falling for it hook line and sinker
Imagine being baited by a literally mentally ill female.

>> No.65263334

>>65263208
They spent a lot of time in Japan last year and all that came of it was 3 3D debuts in January.

>> No.65263366

>>65263208
>you can access your 3d model so long as you have the camera equipment at home to use it
Cue Pomu getting kicked off Kiara's concert for not having a 3d model, even though they have access to hololive 3D studio
>anyone at home can do it lulmao

>> No.65263381

The fact that he's releasing it now means he probably knows NijiEN is getting it in January

>> No.65263434

>>65263334
3 people spent a lot of time in Japan last year and 3 people got 3d.
This year half the branch spent a month+ in Japan. I'll honestly be shocked if nothing comes from it

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>>65263324
I take any excuse to dunk at niji

>> No.65263516

>>65263434
>3 people spent a lot of time in Japan last year
So we're memoryholing everyone else who went and the cancelled AR concert?
>I'll honestly be shocked if nothing comes from it
I will believe it when I see it. Track records are important.

>> No.65263651

Niji or Holo does not have this good 3D tech
Educate yourselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov6_R2oHxA8
and her update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9zDi5oZPbo

>> No.65263663

>>65262939
retard, youre so out of touch that you dont know that pomu appeared in 3D in Nijifes
>>65263516
Only Luxiem and Lazulight went to Japan last year for business matters. lmao lazulight recorded many videos, participation in JP programs and 3D debut. Luxiem was the one doing mainly AR live shit. the rest never went to japan to do anything

>> No.65263686

>>65263516
There was a meet up in February but that wasn’t business related. Luxiem recorded for the AR live in January but obviously we know what happened there

>> No.65263713

>>65262939
>Hey man micro corps get their 3D in 1 month and they get 3D concerts at that short of a time as well
\Fucking newfags actually think Brave is "micro corpo"

>> No.65263747

>>65263366
Kiara is a liar, Pomu's model works fine https://youtu.be/FoCAWFHV8FM?t=15506

>> No.65263755
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>>65263055
anon said who made the models not who made and configured the event.
also kson bought the equipment to do 3d from his home.

>> No.65263758

>>65263663
>>65263686
Why announce an ART live including 18 members when only 8 had done anything and only 3 of those 8 had models?

>> No.65263774

>>65263516
But people didn't go to the AR live ordeal. Actually the big reason it got cancelled by their own admission was a lack of ability to get everyone to the AR live area in time for filming. Luxiem were the only group who spent any time in Japan and even then it wasnt all of luxiem, Luca and Mysta weren't in Japan by the time it got cancelled iirc

>> No.65263816

>>65263747
You know they were literally standing next to each other when kiara said that right... in a collab.
If anyone lied it would have been Pomu

>> No.65263836

>>65263816
Pomu didn't said anything, it was Kiara. She's the one lying like she always does.

>> No.65263851

>>65263758
Because they were retarded…? Hopefully this time they learned their lesson

>> No.65263853

>>65263816
I don't know why they didn't just do a chibi for Pomu like mumei was in for Selens concert

>> No.65263874

What’s he gonna do with it? Continue to call back to his time in niji relentlessly to stay relevant while doing react content?

>> No.65263882

>>65263651
It's funny that people ITT think he'll only be able to use the model in VRChat with a VR headset.

>> No.65263913

>>65263853
Makes Niji look bad next to top-shelf Holo models. Holo isn't insecure so they don't care.

>> No.65263997

>>65263874
He comes off as a someone who can't get over their ex.
Kinda pathetic and this is coming from a niji anti.

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>>65263747
>>65263663
what them wings doing? they shouldnt point out like erect penises, see the ref sheet
fucking lying nijikeks

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>>65263747
kiara didnt lie. her model was only fixed at the time for nijifes. she only said her model wasnt finished yet which is true, it was fixed there. Now theres no problem

>> No.65264068

>>65263651
That's just one model that the tranny commissioned himself. Has nothing to do with Vshojo. Actual Vshojo models like Henya are trash.

>> No.65264099

>>65263913
Selen and other nijis literally were using their chibi model with mumei in selen birthday

>> No.65264108

>>65264056
>fixed
wings being erect is not how the model should be, they should hang down

>> No.65264144

>>65264015
>being this desperate
fucking lying holokeks roru roru rumao

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>>65261297
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHBAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

MEANWHILE IN KEKSANJI

>> No.65264153

>>65263882
She's literally using a VR headset in that though. You can literally see her grip the vr controller to use her sword.
Notice how her thumb is out while her fingers are gripping shit? That's VR.
>>65263651
Also gonna be honest that facial tracking is way off. She literally is doing the "DreamWorks" face when she speaks. Pomu's got better tracking in 2d

>> No.65264156

>>65264108
they are exactly how they should be

>> No.65264165

>>65264056
Her wings are fucked up which was her main complaint that she wanted fixed. Anycolor decided to be dicks and go full “you don’t have permission to use your model until it’s fixed” and then decided not to fix it.

>> No.65264186

>>65264108
That’s not cute though

>> No.65264190

>>65263651
>her

>> No.65264213

>>65264165
Proof?

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>>65264145
DELET THIS

>> No.65264224

>>65264056
>on stage with the world's biggest chode
They must hate Pomu.
>SHE LOVES NIJISANJI
Yes but no one loves that waste of space oxygen thief. Anyone who says they like him is a liar or unfamiliar with him.

>> No.65264227

>>65264165
Her wings are different from her old model

>> No.65264240

>>65264165
>>65264108
sure, now pick the model from AX and nijifes and compare to see if its the same, retard.
and pomu never said anything about what was the problem

>> No.65264266

>>65264224
Seething that you don’t get to freeload in the most important wave and be surrounded by cute girls

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>>65264156
ogeeeyyyyy nijikek

>> No.65264358

>>65263997
I honestly don’t get it. Is there nothing to him as a streamer/creative than his past fame to him? It’s seriously embarrassing that him wink winking his previous success are the only clips I see of the guy. If he uses his time at niji so much to stay relevant he might as well go back there. Never mind that he’s missed out on a sanrio collab, a possible scale figure, and a nendo and is probably seething over it.

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>>65264322
ogeeeyyyyy holokek

>> No.65264405

>>65264068
you're gonna overdose on copium there buddy kek

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65264573

>>65264405
>Vshojo 3D is goo-ACK!

>> No.65264623

>>65261454
all vtuber models are vrchat models

>> No.65264687

>>65264623
No. Not at all.
Are you retarded?

>> No.65264711

>>65261297
Who?

>> No.65264740

>>65263208
Well I guess the Vshojo 3D models are not VCR models then since Zen can use her 3D model with her own software.

>> No.65264768

>>65264687
literally yes. holoniji models aren't special, you can commission the same people who make them to make a model that you use in vrchat. it's the exact same quality as it's made by the same artists.

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65264865

Henya having her """""3D debut""""". Nice 3D Vshojokeks.

>> No.65264904

>>65264768
Oyabun's wasn't a vcaht model.
>you can commission the same people who make them to make a model that you use in vrchat.
Then it isn't the same model, it is commissioning a new model. There are ways to port the models but it isn't 1 to 1. You're implying it's plug in and play.

>> No.65264944

>>65264865
Lmao she is literally in the VRchat hub room, you cannot make his shit up

>> No.65264968

>>65264865
that's a VR model retard

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>>65264865
wow nice. now let's check out nijien's 3d debut:

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>>65264865
holy cope.
At least pick on the model in question and not one that was rushed out for a concert and converted to a VRC model

>> No.65265138

so is anything positive that relates to kuro now gonna be taken as a slight against nijisanji

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>>65264865
damn this looks like trash, it doesn't even reach 2% nijiorgans tier

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>> No.65265206

>>65265143
KEK they look like this shitty generic animu games that came out for ps2

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>>65262344
>Holofags siding with Nijis because VShojo got a 3D model done in 2 months instead of 2 years.

>> No.65265239

>>65265138
another form of leeching off niji

>> No.65265357

>>65265138
that's how corpocucks think. they're still mad at kson for saying she likes vshojo, which is apparently very insulting to hololive.

>> No.65265385

>>65264740
Got any proof because literally all the shit I'm seeing is just an overlay on top of VR chat. Like literally the clip ITT posted earlier is still VR. You can tell that it's in VR because of the way she uses her hands and stuff to summon her sword and even then it's also constantly clipping through itself. She turned around and her ass was clipping

>> No.65265433

>>65261297
He better milk this because his numbers are horrible for what was once the great Mysta and these are with easy twitch numbers too.

>> No.65265479

>>65265235
there's not really much holofags or nijifags can say when it comes to tech except inhale copium because they know their shit looks like garbage and they can't admit it

>> No.65265481

>>65265190
Feesh cute

>> No.65265506

>>65265385
https://twitter.com/FalseEyeD/status/1632018557910372352?lang=de

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65265542

>>65265481
PARASOCIAL FUCKS

>> No.65265573

Nijicope warriors working overtime on Christmas

>> No.65265609

>>65265542
>lang=de
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA YUROKEKS ARE SO PATHETIC AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.65265789

>>65265609
Can't argue against the proof, huh?
Nice seethe however.

>> No.65265828

ITT the 2 biggest vtuber corpos in the industry using 2019 level rigging/tracking criticize fanmade models and home 3D stream from a supposedly irrelevant corpo to feel better about themself

>> No.65266123

>>65265828
Remember, the enemy is both pathetic and threatening at the same time

>> No.65266409

I'm still waiting for someone to draw fanart of rebecca

>> No.65266467

>>65265828
>biggest
Generous for both in the west nowadays.

>> No.65266641

>>65265026
3 nijien already had debuts ignorant retard

>> No.65266709

>>65265138
Pretty much how it has been with ex nijis. anything positive happening to them they use against nijisanji because of their console war faggotry.

>> No.65266867

And he'll still only get 12% the viewers he had in Niji

>> No.65266990

>>65265506
The second part of the stream is literally in a VR chat room with a VR chat model. So far I'm not seeing any of these "3d" models being used outside of chatting streams.

>> No.65267077

>>65266990
Kuro said he's going to use this software, plenty of indies are already using it successfully.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2079120/Warudo/

>> No.65267226

>>65266990
overdosing on copium and moving the goalposts. Love to see it.

>> No.65267290

>>65267077
If everyone is using this shit why do they still use VR chat models? Cuz literally I'm not getting a single stream here where any of these chuubas are using shit outside of vrc. Shit the nazuna one posted earlier looks like it can barely even move without lagging.

>> No.65267358

>>65265138
It's just so easy, you know?

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>>65267226
No goalposts moved. This shit looks like it was filmed in vrc with her constantly having to move the camera in order for it to have her on screen. Shit looks awful

>> No.65267429

>>65267290
That's on Nazuna's shitty internet or potato PC, I guess. It's not like the model is somehow broken as to cause latency issues.
Anyway the reason you're seeing VRChat stuff is because they like to collab in VRC.

>> No.65267470

>>65267411
It isn't VRC are you illiterate?
Also why are your screenshots all so damn blurry?

>> No.65267505

>>65267077
So it's going to be even worse than VR since this shit doesn't even need VR equipment to function? Damn Vshojo is really cheapening out.

>> No.65267744

>>65267470
It's supposedly not vrc but falseeyed literally gets information from /#/s because his sea urchin brain is too pagpag filled to actually process information that isn't given to him by anons.
Trusting him to provide reliable information is about as good as trusting the catalog.

>> No.65267819

>>65267744
Zen says it too, retard. Just because it doesn't fit your narrative doesn't make it not true.

>> No.65268013

>>65267819
I watched the video on mute gomen. Can't stand to listen to TTS.
It'd be cool to see this program used for anything but chatting but even on the demo video it only seems to be able to be used for chatting/exploring which seems to make it equivalent to vrc

>> No.65268162

>>65268013
There are literally subtitles so I doubt you watched shit. But I'm curious what you mean by "anything but chatting"

>> No.65268201

>>65267290
From what I understood this is just a 3D modeling software with a built-in tracker for webcam, iphone, VR etc.
>Warudo started as a custom 3D livestreaming solution for our VTuber clients from China and Japan, but we want to develop a product that works for the general VTuber community - especially if you cannot afford expensive mocap or hire a Unity/Unreal dev to customize a 3D livestreaming solution for you!
>Compatible with VRM, VRChat, or any humanoid-rigged models. (Requires an one-time export in Unity)
So Kuro is likely still going to be using VR equipment with it.

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>>65268162
In most companies people don't just do reaction content day in day out and use their models while they're playing videogames. This is one of many examples of Finana using her 3d model while playing a video game
Her 3d is a toggle that can be turned on at any time since it's all within the app. It's not much different from switching outfits for her. It required trackers in her room to help add to it but yeah.
Every clip of Zen is her standing in a room talking, I'd be interested in seeing the model being used alongside something else she's streaming.

>> No.65268513

>>65267290
>Shit the nazuna one posted earlier looks like it can barely even move without lagging.
That's nazuna pc fault, the 3D stream was at TGS as a promo with other big jp vtuber and corpo 3D made by the same studio and it didn't lag

>> No.65268577

>>65265190
GO WHITE GIRL GOOOOOOO

>> No.65268607

https://youtu.be/PVWAD2uNjYQ?si=R6o6Syd7sjRUj9IE
POMU DON'T LOOK

>> No.65268667

>>65268607
>>65263747
Pomu just performed live with JP senpais in 3d at one of the largest vtubing events in Japan. I don't think she's too worried about her sister

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>>65268507
Ok, anything else?

>> No.65268767

>>65268507
What exactly does using a 3D for your daily streaming avatar accomplish? The overwhelming advantage of 3D is that it allows you to move around and interact with the world/other people in a way that L2D can't accomplish, but you do precisely zero of that if you're just a tiny avatar on the lower-right of the screen. I guess you can wave your arms around like Feesh is doing here?

>> No.65268785

>>65268679
That's what I've been asking for since the beginning but I kept getting clips of Zen just chatting.
Now do other people (excluding melody of course since she was a 3d chuuba before vsj and only became 2d afterwards) have this ability or is it something Zen herself commissioned and did?

>> No.65268982

Using 3D while gaming was something that existed even 5years ago, wtf is this nijinigger going on about

>> No.65269054

>>65268785
Except you didn't ask for that and if I didn't pin you down on the issue you would have kept changing goalposts like you did before and still do.

But I accept your defeat.

>> No.65269067

>>65268785
I believe she's mentioned that the tech still needs to be ironed out, and will be shared with the rest of VShojo or even become open for use.

>> No.65269089

Good for him! I only ever look in my neighbor's bowl to be sure they have enough, so I'm happy to hear that he's doing well, since I don't pay much attention otherwise. My oshi got her 3d this year too and it's been great.

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>>65268013
Anon you can't keep self owning like this lmao. Doesn't matter if you watched it mute, Zen has subtitles so you still would have gotten that information.

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>>65268767
Better reactions. Full fledged movement of body and hands, you get to see the chuuba react to stuff in a more flexible way vs the rigidness of 2d reactions where companies like vshojo and hololive still depend on buttons to swap expressions.

>> No.65269228

>>65269054
I did ask for that actually
>>65266990
I brought it up clear back here

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>>65268785
It is something the tr00n commissioned, has nothing to do with Vshitjo. Vshitjo 3D is cheap VRchat stuff. They probably don't even pay for the VR equipment. Imagine going to Vshitjo with the promise of getting 3D and getting this instead.

>> No.65269316

>>65269175
Oh I saw them but I still took note of the fact that the facial tracking reminded me of a VR chat model and all she did with it was explore the equivalent of a VR chat room

>> No.65269375

>>65269247
can you stop using my genus for your shitposting and how are you seething this much on christmas? kinda sad bro

>> No.65269526

>>65269375
Nta but he does seem to be correct. Several anons have said that vshojo is a company where you have to buy everything related to your 3d stuff.
Her model also literally is just something made for Vrchat

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>>65269247
It's funny how posts like this prove how little anyone knows. VShojo can use their 3D models in VR Chat because get this, VShojo doesn't limit the usage of the talent's 3D models to special events. They can use them whenever they please, and it's common to see them get used either in ordinary streams or just in VR Chat as an additional model to the repertoire. Last year VShojo got a bunch of chibi 3D models commissioned for the entire group and they were made specifically for an animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxvTqRzwmW4 but just got converted into usable 3D models and have been used multiple times in VR Chat since.

>> No.65269557

>>65269228
You were extremely vague about it and it wasn't even the argument you started out with.

>> No.65269684

>He's getting 3D
>Its shitty like all the other 3D from vshojo
no wonder its fast, the quality is 10x worse from the holo and niji models

>> No.65269693

>>65269557
My argument from the very beginning was that it looked like a VR chat model
>>65263208
And I literally pointed out from the very beginning why that would suck as a "3d" since it could only be used in that specific program for those specific situations.

>> No.65269747

>>65269693
Yeah. And that was debunked with my first post but you keep clinging onto it for some reason.

>> No.65269768

>>65269247
stop using my oshi for your retarded seething baitposts you turbofaggot

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>>65269684
kek yeah sure thing

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>>65269684
From the screenshots we have so far the quality looks very good.
Cope.

>> No.65269968

>>65269201
Too bad only 2 people in NijiEN can use it at all.

>> No.65269980

>>65269747
Which I asked for proof for and you linked me to her saying that she could but in a program that operates extremely similarly to vrc from the looks of it in that situation where she's using it. Then you asked me what I meant by the models only being used for chatting to which I showcased Finana using hers while gaming. You replied showing Zen using it during Minecraft and I said "okay cool, but can anyone else in vshojo do that" and I got told I was moving goalposts for comparing company 3ds and that I was extremely vague and nonspecific when from the very start I have maintained a vshojo 3Ds vs Niji 3Ds stance and pointed out how bad itd suck for a 3d that could only be used in a specific program at a specific time and required extra equipment

And now we're here. I hope this recap has been helpful

>> No.65270223

>>65269980
I think it's funny that even in your own recap you can see how you changed your goalposts.
Thanks for amusing me.

>> No.65270308

>>65270223
spoken like a true goalpost mover kek

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>>65270308
nijiseethe

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>>65269201
For the record, any good 2D model can do this simple head bobbing thing here. I know that the JP Corpo viewers aren't used to seeing well-rigged models so you'll just have to believe me. But yes, there's a reason Zentreya is so popular despite the TTS debuff and it's because of actually making good use of 3D. Here's a 2 and a half year old clip as an example. https://clips.twitch.tv/SpookyToughPieMrDestructoid-bHhNLsF0wVW-TtOX

>> No.65270517

I'm surprised that even though the year 2023 is coming to an end, some fags still believe that Vshojo is the savior of the Vtuber world.

>> No.65270538

>>65261297
His 2D model sucks and I can't imagine his content itself improving at all even with the help of 3D.

>> No.65270549

>>65269201
Indies can do this easily now.
https://youtu.be/WuPKwE91MSs?si=nTkb4iOHTc8ci-Wq&t=9408

>> No.65270550

>>65270223
The goal from the very beginning was comparing vshojo vs Niji and that it'd suck to have to use a VR headset and VR chat to stay in 3d. I got told that Zen didn't have to but judging by your response to that and the other anons response, Zen is an exception not the rule

>> No.65270572

>>65261297
>cheap "3D model"
lmao, both Holo and Niji have better 3D models
But I hope he enjoys his VR chat avatar

>> No.65270671

>>65270572
did the niji managers tell you guys to keep repeating this "vrchat model" bullshit or what?
this is getting awfully transparent

>> No.65270697

>>65270550
VShojo doesn't only have VRChat models. They did a 3D concert.

>> No.65270706

>>65270671
see >>65270517
Now keep coping Vshojocuck

>> No.65270710

>>65270550
>The goal from the very beginning was comparing vshojo vs Niji and that it'd suck to have to use a VR headset and VR chat to stay in 3d.
>My argument from the very beginning was that it looked like a VR chat model

Even now you change goalposts...

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>>65270572
kek

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>>65270787
>

>> No.65271025

>>65270697
I'd not bring up that shitty laggy sub-20 fps 'concert' if I were you.

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>>65271025
do nijizhangs ever say anything that's not a straight-up lie?

>> No.65271146

>>65271025
That concert wasn't laggy retard. Only Nazuna's 3D showcase was low fps for the first half or so.

>> No.65271183

>>65271025
I don't have a horse in this race anon, I don't care who out of holo vs. niji vs. vshojo has the best 3D models. But they definitely don't only have VRChat models like the other anon is claiming, there was a whole concert with everybody and a 3D anniversary for Nazuna.

>> No.65271388

Any indie with a 3D model has been able to do 3D streams without a VR headset, use 3D assets, and has had interactive point redeems for about half a year now if they've taken the effort to set up that Warudo program that was linked earlier ITT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQEqa5eQCKM

>> No.65271546

>>65270710
Yes that's still comparing them.
Zens 3d model looks like a Vrchat model and is apparently in line with most vshojo models but slightly different because she can use it outside of Vrchat it just looks like it belongs in Vrchat.

>> No.65271567

>>65261297
>iPhone file name
You really like stirring shit, don’t you, Rebecca/Horayo

>> No.65271610

>>65271546
Get your eyes and brain checked.

>> No.65271652

>>65271546
there's no such thing as a "vrchat model" you fucking mongoloid

>> No.65271666

>>65271610
Man I'm sorry but her 3d 2.5 years ago literally looks better than any of the clips I've seen

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>>65271140
>>65271146
>>65271183
Holy cope, here's Henya watching herself lagging in real time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PzD2EycxV4
The 3D itself looked complete trash as well. No shading, no lighting, nothing. There's no comparison between Nijifes and this trash at all. Vshojo doesn't take much from the vtuber earnings but also doesn't invest anything in them.

>> No.65271709

>>65271652
It looks like something you'd find in a free world of VR chat with about as much quality

>> No.65271729

>>65271669
lmfao she's watching twitter clips that were at a shorter framelimit because they were fucking animated gifs not the actual video.

>> No.65271744

>>65271669
that's a gif from twitter
are you seriously this fucking dumb??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>> No.65271779

>>65271669
Ladies and Gentleman,
I present you the smartest Nijishill.

>> No.65271828

>>65271779
i thought china was supposed to have a high average iq

>> No.65272293

Vshitjo fans bragging about better 3D model tech when CODEMIKO mogs all of them.
Newflash: No one watches vtubers for the 3D model tech
Better 3D tech doesn't mean shit if your streamer is boring and trashy as fuck.

>> No.65272542

>>65272293
Wrong, Vshojo fans were bragging that the talents can actually get 3D models for home 3D in a reasonable timeframe something that not even Pomu had so far.

>> No.65272544

>>65271729
>>65271744
>>65271779
Even your shitty trailer where you obviously only choose the best parts is laggy: https://youtu.be/R4rXno9PMsM?t=200 Ironmouse model lagging there. What's the cope now?

>> No.65272632

>>65272293
Vshojo Chads are currently watching Zen react to videos while she uses her 3D model.
https://www.twitch.tv/zentreya

>> No.65272708

>>65272632
>react streams
The absolute state of Twitchtroons

>> No.65272726

>>65272544
I don't need to cope because people can just watch the trailer.

>> No.65272782

>>65272726
Yeah and they couldn't even hide the lag there. Nazuna/Kson and IM/whoever that faggot is section have obvious lag.

>> No.65272801

>>65272293
Isn't CodeMiko that one girl with an uncanny 3D model? There's a good reason nobody cares for her then.

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While you're al here make sure to tune into the debut of Froot's new song in less than 5 minutes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFrjPjp5P7I

>> No.65273938

>>65273786
>Fr**t
No

>> No.65274166

>>65269247
Goddamn her design is ugly

>> No.65274551

>>65261427
>it’s easier for a corpo to make 3d models of one person compared to 40 nijilivers
>40
The standard is to provide 3D models to livers following gen debut order. Fans have only been asking for 3, maybe 6, models to be released to be satisfied, yet Nijisanji has done nothing. Your post is a very weird cope.

>> No.65275098

>>65274551
It's also like pretending that 40 streamers appeared from thin air inside Nijisanji. If the company doesn't have the resources to provide everyone what they need, then maybe they should slow down on the recruiting.

>> No.65275196

>>65274551
1) JP gets priority over EN in both companies, holoX got 3D almost a year before Council/Promise
2) Selen doesn't want to get her fat ass to Japan, she always avoids traveling to meetings

>> No.65278242

>>65273938
As if anybody needed proof this bait thread was, once again, started by phasecucks, blammo one outs himself.

>> No.65278317

>>65261297
V4mirai had 3D at launch and their company is only 6 months old.
>WHO?
They're owned by the same company that manages VSPO and are the twin group to the planned VSPO EN.

>> No.65278367 [DELETED] 

>>65278242
Based tranny supporter, you cute AND valid

>> No.65279359

>>65278367
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha.

>> No.65279785

why do vshojokeks keep picking fights with other vtuber branches it doesn't help grow your fanbase?

>> No.65279851

>>65279785
It's Rebecca trying to drum up more hate towards Kuro

>> No.65279880

>>65273786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRpSkJn0EB4

>> No.65279902

>>65275196
Ah yes, that same Selen that was in Japan like a month ago? And still did not get her 3D? Two and a half years after debut? This argument makes my head hurt

>> No.65279955

>>65279880
>Holodoxx
no thanks

>> No.65280089

>>65278242
based fellow frooger

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>>65278367

>> No.65280169

>>65279880
go back to your cp discord ant, no one's watching your shitty channel

>> No.65280299

>>65278317
brave group dont manage vspo retard, they own the company that manages vspo

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>>65280299
Wow, I didn't know that! Thanks, corporate structure enthusiast.

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