/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I will happily give Noel 3 children.

You will not stop me from masturbating to Subaru, Noel

>in this economy
>in these times
>with these cultural standards

I'd love to have a massive family with 4-5 children, but even with 2 parents working (which already makes having a lot of kids impossible) the combined income won't be enough to buy a home big enough or support a growing family.

I suppose Noel is rich enough to pull this off, in which case I hope she accepts my N99 dick.

>>64781938
I wanna give Noel at least 1 kid per year until menopause kicks in.

fuck off hets

>>64782085
I will give my hag oshi 3 children
maybe more

>>64782826
She'd die birthing the first one and you'd be left with a child that resembles your oshi that you have to care for every single day, and deep depression.

>>64781938
Can’t… I am not white.

>>64783300
I'm sorry to hear that, anon. I hope they find a cure.

>>64781938
Noel is the last person to say this.

>>64782913
But she will grow up to resemble her mother

>>64783450
*hits pipe*

>>64783477
Would

>>64782913
clannad after story...
kino...

>>64781938
Reject childbirth, embrace to love of a robot! but (you) should still save a hag

>>64783450
>>64783477
>you can literally and legally groom your oshi

>>64781938
I'm Noel's top guy…
What am I gonna do?
Noel chose me to save the Japanese birthrates

>>64781938
I can start with Japanese girls before they turn 10. My method isn't the most ethical but it's the fastest

>>64782826
Every time I watch her, I can hear the desperation in her voice. She is waiting for someone to responsibly fertilize her eggs.

>>64781938
Saving Japan from low birthday is pretty easy, but government doesn't want to do it, they just pretend to care about their people.
All they have to do is allowing parents to dump their unwanted kids without consequence so government take care of them until those kids grow up.

>>64781938
Sending my breeding visa application right now

>>64781938
I would happily start and maintain a large family with a cute Japanese woman, but, unfortunately, I would have to find someone who would want to do the same with me.

>>64782913
I'll just use our daughter instead then.

You have to take responsibility.

>>64782110
You realize people still had children during the Great Depression and in times of war right? This is nothing compared to that

>>64785542
The economic model is completely different

>>64784576
yeah, me (as a shota)

Ok give me your address and I will show up. Like wtf this feels like an open invitation that reads
>Anons come dox us and pretend to not know what hololive is while you pump your seed in my pussy

>>64783300
wdym? You're the only ones breeding these days

>>64782110
It’s the children that enrich your life, anon, not the 72” flat screen

>>64785641
We need age regression technology to hurry up so we can save our oshis sooner rather than later!

>>64785542
The difference is that those societies were still minimally supportive of families while our society is actively hostile to them.

>>64781938
We are SO in

>>64785542
Poverty in general tends to increase birthrates. But that is not what is going on right now, anyone who choses not to have kids in this economy isn't poor they are middle to lower middle and have enough sense to know they can't afford it because the middle class is the one currently being gutted.

>>64783450
But what if it's a boy that 100% looks like her

>>64787184
Uooooogh

>>64785542
>few laws against using your children as free slaves, so the more the better
>not yet any female empowerment, sexual revolution etc.
>less urbanization

>>64785542
Because back then having children was profitable, today you have to invest a huge amount of your income, time and effort just for a chance of them being a mildly successful individual

>>64785542
>This is nothing compared to that
Other way around, my friend. You cant wave away an extinction event by claiming that things were worse back in your day. They objectively werent, because it hadnt passed the horizon and you recovered.

>>64785505
She could just pay some dude to be her house husband.

Noel is made for her brother

>>64781938
So she's going to stop camwhoring?

>>64787149
It's not about the economic position, people used to have children regardless of being poor or rich.
The decline in child birth is a direct consequence of the digital era. Older people have more entertainment options than sex, and horny teenagers can get by with just the readily available porn.

Flare’s dark elf dick… is sterile…

>>64783300
Isn’t there a statistic that shows that the white male Japanese female divorce rate is lower than the Japanese average?

>>64785542
In that era, specially in rural areas, it was still useful to have more children as future unpaid labor

>>64787440
>Because back then having children was profitable
Don't people make money by filming their children playing with toys or some shit like that? You can also train them to become vtubers.

>>64787619
I volunteer!

>>64785542
Yes. Before "muh social nets" existed. That's why.

Sex with who though?

>>64781938
I will give her, Marine, Choco, Lamy, Towa and Suityan 3 children each.

god imagine how big her tits would get if she got pregnant

>>64781938
i don't get it. Everyone's always telling me to have sex but nobody is ever asking me to have sex with them

>>64793290
i thought if you get implants they don't get bigger during gregnancy

>>64793400
natty

>>64788036
>>64783345
>>64786677
I AM LATIN!

>>64787802
That, but also we're more educated and don't just squirt out kids for no reason. Most people want their kids to have a good life. In previous eras, this wasn't even a consideration. (It's still not in shitholes around the world today.) Even if I could get a GF, I would still feel bad about having children who likely would just grow up in a shit world with no prospects.
But more anything else, this has to do with feminism. If you want lots of children, you need women to be willing to settle with a suitable mate in a reasonable timeframe. Women don't feel like doing that anymore now that they're liberated. (I'm not even saying that's a bad thing by the way, it's just the way things are.) There's no point in asking men to go have children when women won't cooperate.

>>64793822
you mean latinx?

>>64782110
The last generation was an absolute anormality in regards to income per house an economic stability, before that the situation was shit, like it always has been in the last ten thousand years

Her cow tits would produce enough milk to nurture quadruplets.

>>64787667
Noel...

>>64781938
>Noel is a few years away from being a hag
>her voice has shown that change as well
She's going to be polka tier in a few more years btw

>>64781938
Japanese women do not want Latino children, anon.

>>64796139
They dont have to consent.

>noel womb will be dusty and dired just like marine ina few years
I CAN SAVE HER

>>64796139
Yeah they do.

>>64781938
these rich women really should consider marrying down to a lower income man to help japan, but ofc they won't, because women

>>64796139
anon, regular jp women dont like foreigners at all, gaijin hunters and unadapted menheras are the only ones looking for them and they will take you if they didnt got one of your race already, plus they only want to fuck, not kids, there is a very rare type of jp woman obsessed with traditional media that are always looking for a white foreigners (swedish type mostly) because its said that the mixture between japanese and them produces very pretty children, but there is a problem with it, they still hate foreigners so they are going to take advantage of the law and divorce you without a single warning, and you will go to jail if you try to contact your kid, so, gl anon lol.

>>64796139
>>64793822
Just do like that Pablo in Tokyo guy

>>64788393
applicable solution for every household out there yes anon, brilliant
total. global. vtubation

>having sex with a yellow ching chong bing bong fuck monkey like Noel
No thanks. I have self respect. She can go moan into a microphone for other yellow monkeys or whatever it is monkeys do for fun.

Lesbians depend on other people to give them more girls. Do not fall for their tricks.

>>64798114
No, men won't touch you, sister.

>>64781938
yeah anon, go slave away and betabux some used up roastie

>>64781938
Change should start at home

>>64781938
Genuinely makes me nauseous to consider a bunch of /vt/ and 2chan vtuber posters becoming fathers. Red faced shrieking at your 4 year old because they don't like your oshi.

>>64788036
Probably because they're wealthier on average.

>>64781938
every time I hear something about Japan it just keeps getting better and better to move into

>>64799026
single-chama seething

>>64799066
Yeah but they don't want foreigners having hapas, they want Japanese babies.

>>64781938
start with yourself, cowtits. Go fuck your brother

>>64781938
Watching streams, jerking off, and selfishly playing video games are a lot more valuable and fun uses of time over having children and supporting a family. >>64782110 says it pretty well, it's legitimately insane to think about having a family when things are so outrageously expensive where most normal people in my country can't even buy a house anymore without being a CEO of a company or something.

I don't care what any big tiddy knight has to say on the subject, even if the screenshot is taken out of context. We've all got our own shit to worry about, don't assume everyone wants to raise a fucking family.

>>64785542
>bang 14 year old girl
>repeat 12 times for 12 children, 2 of which (lowballing) die of polio, leaving 10 kids
>put all of them to work at the farm so I have 10 extra laborers
>at 14-16ish, marry off the daughters to add their husbands and their children to my labor pool

You'd be arrested on step 1 for statutory rape, then on 2 for parental neglect, then on 3 for child labor, then on 4 for human trafficking. Then even if the onerous legal framework of today didn't exist, for 90% of people there's no longer any material incentive to have kids as labor since likely you don't even own your own land, nevermind work it for food.

>>64781938
I'd gladly impregnate a japanese girl, but no way in hell I'm abiding to the corporate culture there. Either you become a cringe influencer (or based influencer like Chris Abroad) or you forget about your dream. Either way jp is fucked

>>64799370
I appreciate people dismantling dumb ideas, even if it's on 4chan and nothing is to be take seriously. Make bait credible again

>>64799420
Some japanese companies aren't that bad these days, but I'd be making a quarter of what I make in the US if I were to work there.

>>64799345
>kids are…le expensive!
skill issue, mad because bad, etc.

>>64798410
>doesn’t have sex
>”m-men won’t touch you sister”
What did the ching chong bing bong monkey mean by this?

>>64799345
i'm perfectly happy with people like you spending their whole lives childless and just playing video games if only you relinquish your right to vote.

Shit thread

Never take this advice from someone who doesn't have kids. If the person saying this has gone through the gauntlet of the first 2 years, with the around the clock care required for this fucking sperm pet you chose to grow, and still is pro baby, then you have someone worth listening to. Genuinely hell on earth some days and especially nights, and your ass is not going to be able to pawn it off to the woman always unless you want a short relationship.

>>64782110
If starving nigras with 50 iq can do it, you have no excuse.

>>64799988
It's also giving the children good lives, anon, not merely surviving.

>>64800667
don't worry, the third worlders will have good lives by displacing you nonproducing whites

>>64800746
I'm not gonna start political shit with you, nigger. Slurp cum and rope.

>>64800819
haha, you lost the argument

>>64785542
Women didn’t have rights and weren’t in the workforce during that time period

>>64799886
Guess you're just gonna have to stay seething

>>64801163
how am I seething? you're the one backing out like a pussy hahaha

>>64801241
>I wouldn't be seething if you did x!
>guess you're gonna seethe then
>a-actually I wasn't seething, y-you were!!
Pathetic self diss, sister.

>>64801535
you're the one seething that you're looked down on by society for being a childless hiki you moron

>>64798114
wtf are you even doing in the vtuber boards. go back to /pol/

>>64802232
commenting on a holo girl's comment isn't necessarily /pol material, also holo girls are forbidden from saying /pol things so noel getting to say this automatically makes it not /pol

>>64782110
africans have like 5 children on average
there is no way you arent able to support them if you live in a first world country

>>64803748
The africans can only have 5 children beacuse first world do-gooders feed them with aid money. Africa is a continent of welfare queens and the fuckers should all be left to starve.

I thought Japanese women were all lesbian?

>>64804302
clearly not, or else they would all be extinct from lesbian bed death

>>64795881
>polka tier
What is polka tier?

>>64799370
So modernity was a mistake?

>>64800982
The economy adapting to the income of the woman and man of the household both working full time has been an utter disaster for first world nations. now nobody can even compete financially in those spaces which, ironically, has also killed any and all incentive for people to become couples.
noel's cute and all but she really has zero idea how the real world works if she legit thinks things like this.

>>64804784
I'll teach her...>>64804687

>>64781938
I did a quick search and failed to find this one. Anyone got the subbed clip?

>>64797214
>Source? I made it up.

>>64781938
>Noel wants (YOU)
I'm not a nip

>>64781938
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, flights from Germany are fucking expensive. I will come and breed you Noel !!!

>>64804646
Very chill, reads stories, and gets clingy. she's already pretty clingy in her recent ASMR's for members.

>>64799714
Stay mad

>>64800746
That's your kid's problem to deal with

>>64807557
who said my kids aren't the ones invading?

>>64783732
Rococo's womb is advanced enough to birth children, and she will never run out of eggs
She will be a birthing chamber

really shows the grim state of Japan

a sex worker doomed to die single lest her descendants will be incarcerated by society for her life choices is asking her audience to make families who are all either NEETs so they are too poor to even support a family or salary men so extremely overworked they can't even begin to think about the idea of making a family, all because their society is helmed by extreme conservative elderly who consider ethnic extinction a preferable alternative to non-conforming youth and the youth having anything in life not worse than what they had to live through(and preferably much much worse)

and before any of you had the bright idea of flying over there in your yellow fever to breed, friendly reminder your back will be doubly broken for being a filthy gaijin in general

>>64808109
Wasn't going to anyway since I'm monolingual and too retarded to learn any new languages, even easy ones like French or Spanish.

>>64799345
Not taken out of context, she was directly addressing Japan's population issue for whatever reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_lK4dS2DIg
>>64805195 See link above

>>64809568
chat mentioned it btw.

>>64805915
I’ll come along, too. Not going for Noel or anything, just sightseeing, but it gets cheaper when we can share something

This is rich coming from her. She's had to make her RM ASMR more coomer worthy to compete. If you want them to stop jerking off than don't make lewd ASMR you fat bitch. Tell girls to stop being so picky.

>>64810225
>Tell girls to stop being so picky.
as if girls would ever pick lower income men as their husbands, feminism truly rotted whole generations KEK

>>64809568
As a twin I find this interesting because it implies it is more productive to have triplets.

>>64781938
>Noel wants (YOU)
She was speaking to Japanese men. I am not Japanese. Therefore, I WILL continue to masturbate to Botan.

>>64788036
Really? Should I hunt for some cute bilingual cakes when I'm over there?

>>64810225
she's a sex worker
she and any family line she'd start is already excommunicated from society
asking the audience to make a family is the most they can do to raise the population because any kids she'd have wouldn't have bright prospects because the legal system is made for people to easily dig around in her background

>>64811079
This place has made me hopelessly addicted to hag bush.

>>64781938
mutts not allowed

>>64805285
NTA but he's literally correct. Gaijin hunters and specifically nip women that like foreigners are into it with the express purpose of having an exotic fuck or a sefure.When they settle down, almost 99% of the women will marry a Japanese man for the social and cultural stability.

>t.has lived in Japan for past 10 years and has had many experiences with shit like this

>>64812148
bush in general for me

>>64812550
What about hapas, do they not care as much or are they drawn even more to full Japanese spouses?

>>64784074
4chan really got pedos feeling comfy enough to write this

>>64785542
Age of consent was easier those days

>>64813325
I'd say the younger generation care less so about the actual race of the spouse but rather how "Japanese" they are culturally/socially. So this can either refer to a Japan-born foreigner or a pure-blooded Japanese, as long as they fit tradition criteria of what it means to be Japanese.

Hafus are weird tho cuz many of them end up just dating other hafus or non-Japanese

>>64782085
that's a nice pic, mind if i save it as future fap material?

>>64787802
Nope. This is what guys want
>>64782110
This is what actually happened
>>64793309

this thread really is ignoring how close Noel is to being a hag

>>64796139
Saving Japan should be top priority. Cooperation is mandatory

>>64798240
Her big tits gene must be preserved in future generation

>>64799886
Forcing supporter of rival party out of the voting game is a dirty tactic, chud

>>64803748
More advanced african countries alway breed less. Countries in chaos breed more due to rape

>>64804687
No, but education is. Transportation and landlord too

>>64814136
All I hear is excuses. Every argument I have heard comes from pure ignorance. Having children and raising them is easier than ever, but people just don't want to have them anymore, since they can find more things to do with their own life.

>>64815041
I like the idea of having kids but actually doing it means having to be with a woman.

>>64793309
>Everyone's always telling me to have sex but nobody is ever asking me to have sex with them
Why does it hurt so much bros?

>>64814300
This image is way too cute for this coomer thread

>>64816205
Despite having massive tits, Noel is 100% cute

>>64815041
>Having children and raising them is easier than ever
Hell no it's not. Have you ever had kids when both parents are working? It comes down to your family to chip in to take care of them. This is why population collapse is a self-feeding curve, as families get smaller, the people who can take care of kids in a family gets smaller.

>>64818705
>when both parents are working
again, a byproduct of feminism
the old days didn't have this problem because the wife was home it's almost as if it was supposed to be that way kek
and given how western society has no concept of keeping the extended family together it's no wonder you westoids have problems kekeroo

bebber

>>64781938
yeah, because what we need right now is more people on this planet.
People are screaming about global warming and stupid shit yet no one is fucking mentioning the overpopulation issue

>>64824286
Her womb, its ready.

>>64820754
The American middle class of the 1950s were an historical exception. Most women in history could not afford to be housewives, and now that they're no longer benefiting from the biggest economic and population boom in world history, they cannot afford it again.

>>64825382
Many women throughout medieval history afforded being housewives by doing work from home, such as agriculture and textiles. Since women don't do these jobs anymore, perhaps remote jobs online could be a good replacement that still allows them to take care of the kids.

>>64824965
>Nuke China
>Nuke India
>Nuke Africa

Problem solved

>>64782110
>in this economy
Welders around here get offered 85k for a 3 month gig. Most of them spend it on retarded shit like an F350 deluxe King Ranch edition though

What i'm trying to say is, do a year, and come out with about 150k worth of scratch and then fly to JP and plow....or go to Thailand/Vietnam and die from sexual fatigue plowing everything with a pulse

>>64781938
>Go to Japan
>Try to find woman, all the gamer girl good ones are locked in their rooms or cheat so hard its almost a sport to them
vs
>Go to latin america
>get the sexy college girl
>then her friends
>then the friends of those friends
>while all of them can and do cook for you and your money gets you a nice house

>>64824965
This is true. Reduction of home ownership rate is the sign resources for housing is lacking. Human don't lack manpower with that number of population they lack resource

>>64815041
This faggot has no idea how much money parents spent on their kids

>>64826409
Think about local community in the old times. You fix your neighbor's clothes, he gives you a bread. No tax involved. Nowadays it seem you have more choice, but taxes everywhere

>>64827762
>latin college girl
yeah 9/10 of those have been so ran through its like a gaping blackhole for a vagina

>>64781938
>just have kids
>in this economy
all of her brain power is concentrate in the brown nipples eh

>>64781938
She's more than likely talking about her male brethren i.e. Japanese males you fucking retards. To fix the problem is Japanese males need to get with other ethnicities (exceptions whites) females who also do traditional family homes. Either that or the Japanese females need to be more accepting to their brothers regardless of their wage earnings because the piece of shit government is not going to make things easier on their lives in the coming years despite being the root cause of it all.

Never trust a piece of garbage anon who puts a screenshot up and never a fucking link to the clip with a misleading headline. Bitches like this are never to be trusted.

>>64833760
Also the clip has already been done like...fifteen times.

BAD CLIPPER HATE

>>64804646
Obese

>>64794428
This is cope. We aren't just economic subjects or a product of what social mechanisms make us—we are men with will.
I will not allow myself to be subsumed by an abstraction, bowled over and swept away by the tides of time. I will defy the destiny set out for me. I will write a poem with my blood.
I will breed my oshi.

>>64781938
Lol

>>64781938
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh3plVi5ULQ

>>64799950
Kind of this, after the terrible twos, they only get better.
Speaking after 8 years with 2.
Children are only as expensive as you want them to be, as clothes and toys can easily be gotten through hand-me-downs if you know people who have kids who've outgrown their stuff or even your own parents - a LOT of parents surprisingly keep baby stuff even when their own children are grown-ass adults just to have their grandchildren with a stockpile of stuff.

>>64793822
Go to Brazil, there are lots of jap expats there, maybe you can grab one

>>64803748
Having children is the easy part retard. Providing for them is not. If you think your children will be happy eating shit and piss like mudhut africans then go ahead.

>>64836616
It's funny how no one in JP is a Brazil expats

>>64781938
I'll do it if she volunteers.

it doesn't even have to be me, to be honest, but her tits need to stay in the gene pool.

>>64782110
You don't need to buy a big home or a home at all to support kids. Kids are not expensive. You know how they used to live before the wheel? Stop making excuses. You don't have kids because you are a pathetic weeaboo faggot so it's nothing to do with money. Stop making excuses and go take a fucking shower.

>>64839969
they didn't take showers before the wheel.

>>64839969
>bonk a woman on the head and try to take her to a cave
>get arrested
How was I supposed to know?

I want to feel like she's right but I don't want to spend my whole life doing the sexy gacha pulls when it's not the straight path there.

I could be wrong but I think the Japanese of Brazil might be hardier people than you'd think? It might just be perversion by observation. What do u think?>>64840206
>>64838914

>>64808109
Yea right, let it go man! Hololive is a fertility project for sure! The gaijin hunter is totally real too.

>>64781938
なぁ、おまえらは生まれてきて幸せか?
こんなクソみたいな世界に?どいつもこいつもみんなカスだろ?

おまえらは同じことを繰り返すのか?
セックスして、子供作って、その子供がこのクソみたいな世界で苦しむって、そうわかっていながら?

「幸せな連中」ってのは猿と変わらねぇんだよ、脳みその中がお花畑の

>>64782173
Are you sad that you can’t give noel babies, troon?

>>64781938
Wait for me Noel chan

>>64785542
and what kind of existence would and did those children have? that also matters.

>>64799920
Chestnut mouth

>>64846506
Good enough for them to have children of their own and continue the existence of the human race.
Jesus the people of today despite living in the most comfortable era mankind has ever experienced all act like a bunch of faggots complaining about the slightest inconvenience.

>>64836860
>muh children happy
this is why your tribe is losing
enjoy the extinction loser

>>64785542
>No arranged marriages
>Women in the workforce driving wages down
>Women wanting to ride the cock carousel until they hit the wall
>Women demanding to settle down with a chad with high income
>free abortion
>divorce rape
>housing bubble
>another mouth to feed for 25 years (college and PhD meme)
How do you propose to have kids in this day and age?

>>64785542
The great Depression had a better Economy than us right now

>>64787802
>>64787924
You're both missing the key ingredient: contraception.
Not only are we smarter/more educated/have access to more information than ever before, to understand a life changing event, but we also have access to contraception that lets us have healthy sexual lives without the "risk" of pregnancy. (See how I put the coded word in parentheses? It's considered a risk today.)

Be it the mass production of condoms, IUDs, or the mini-pill, or modern medical procedures that gives you permanent sterility, people have so many more options to prevent a pregnancy than ever before.

All other political or socioeconomic considerations won't change that can of worms.

>>64848276
>>64787924
Oops, sorry futa elf lover, I meant to reply to >>64794428

>>64793822
That's white in Japan
Arr rook same to japanese

>>64781938
I want Noel to cuck me.
I want her to have raw sex with chads while I watch.
I want to lick other men's seed out of her gaping pussy while she gets me off with her feet as a reward.
I want to hear her whisper in my ear that she's pregnant, knowing there's zero chance the kid is mine.
I want her to finally let me have pity sex with her, watching her giggle as my 3.5'' cock constantly slips out of her extremely loose pussy.
I want to raise her kid while I hear her moaning in the next room getting knocked up with the next one.

She's right. Developed societies are in for a rude awakening with the rapidly plummeting birth rates everywhere. Give it like 30 years and the dependency ration in countries like Japan, South Korea, Finland and Spain will be like 80% and young people will work for scraps with over half of their wages being taken from them to fund elderly care and benefits. You could have stopped it but selfishly didn't. If there is any justice in the world the working adults of the future will have enough of slaving for you and just have anyone over the age of 65 without kids killed for the betterment of socieyy.

>>64847472
>this is what he counts as a win.

>>64848468
this

>>64841245
>なぁ、おまえらは生まれてきて幸せか?
ノエルがいる世界に喜ばないなんてないよ
アホか?

>>64797214
>>64812550
I know at least two foreigners married to japanese women, with kids. You just have to be in the right circles.
Also generalizations don't mean much in the dating scene, it's literally just a skill issue on your part most of the time. Statistics is your bitch when you're an outlier.

>>64846945
people whose lives suck still have kids still have kids, yes. what's your point?

>>64849625
The point is that the reason you don't want kids has nothing to do with the economic pity party that you're presenting and everything to do with the fact that you're 30 and still want to live like a 14-year-old boy with zero responsibilities, counting on some other guy's kids to take care of your elderly ass when you are too old to do it yourself. Sad!

The world is already overpopulated anyway. Plus we might figure out how to get humans to live significantly longer within 30 years.

>>64827174
if you nuke china and pajeet though the world economy and all the food and electronics and everything would make humanity collapse cause literally everything is made in either china or china adjacent

>>64846688

>>64781938
Her gigantic milkers can feed 3 babies each.

>>64850126
>le overpopulated
While there may be a limit to life on Earth, we’re nowhere near it. Stop believing commies whose sole purpose in life is to destroy human flourishing.

>>64804687
The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>64804687
Some parts of it, yeah. Going full uncle teddy makes no sense, but putting magic numbers in the economy over if people can comfortably live and own a home is definitely one of them, and one of the reasons no one can afford the same family their parents had while magic number is higher than it's ever been.

>>64851933
>limit
That's a bit disingenous- we're nowhere near the limit of life on Earth if we go back to living like cavemen. We're already way past the limits if we bring just the current population to western standards of living.

>>64824965
>this shit again
Kill old fucks that don't work anymore, but incentivice stable rates of breeding, done

>>64853595
how about i kill you instead huh?

>>64853648
Unless you are a pensionated boomer I wasn't talking about you

This board needs serious help

I am lonely and unhappy with my life.

>>64803748
and if I was okay with having my children live in dirt mud hut squalor like niggers then yes I could support that.

>>64796139
>he doesnt know
america already got to them there will be tons of black and latino halfbreeds soon

>>64854091
I am alone and content with my life.

>>64832260
And how much money do you think people spent on their kids back then? Regardless of place and era, it's common for the parents to spend most of their income on their children, this isn't new.

>>64818705
>both parents are working
Housework was much more demanding than any office job women are baited into getting nowadays. 24/7 work, you would need to learn multiple household skills, and they are lifelong projects, you fuck it up once, you just fucked up 10 years worth of work.
Without to mention that even men's work is easier thanks to a shitton of laws that protects the laborer from being explored.
So yeah, both parents are working less nowadays than ever before. Family other than the grandparents chipping in? Another relatively new concept that can only happen because you have multiple people in your family that doesn't have their own children to take care of. And guess what, this makes it easier to have children nowadays.

>>64815041
> Having children and raising them is easier than ever,
Wrong, incorrect, utterly out of touch with reality.
Before having kids was a thing that was done primarily through communities. Raising a kid could be done through a multitude of parents, grandparents, neighbors, etc. That support network is shot, now. Not to mention the financial network required to raise one. We are in a worse position to raise a family than during the Great Depression.

>>64855864
>And how much money do you think people spent on their kids back then?
Far, far, far less.
https://www.lendingtree.com/debt-consolidation/raising-a-child-study/
Raising a kid nowadays is nearly 20% more than it was even 40 years ago, and has gone up consistently in 20% increments since the 30's.
Kids, back in ye olden days, would work as early as 14 or 15. And 'Ye olden days' I'm referring to is around the 50's and 60's, meaning AFTER Child labor laws were implemented, kids generally made the money to afford their own entertainment, clothes, etc. This ended with everything becoming vastly more expensive along with the falling value of wages combined with inflation.

Maybe if you go far enough back, like 1885, you could find a similar economic situation in which to compare the cost of living nowadays to, but you know what people had over 100 years ago? Families. Big families who all shared an estate for generations.

To say it's easier than ever or that cheaper it's ever been is just fallacy, we do not have a world like we live in today where all of our productivity is monitored and compared against a global economy along with massive taxation and cost of living hikes to feed that global economy to compare to ever before in human history. We're in uncharted territory and we can see the effects of how living to make an imaginary line go up takes its toll on the humans who have to keep that line inflated on their backs.

>>64855864
>Regardless of place and era, it's common for the parents to spend most of their income on their children
People today do not spend most of their income on their children, and that is the problem. They spend so much on taxes, insurance, debts, transportation, shopping, etc. that they barely have anything left over. Some of these are not strictly necessary, but good luck trying to function in modern society without them.

>>64849991
no, I also care about what their lives might be like.

>>64848649
>No work force
>Only remaining workforce will work “for scraps”
>Decreasing globalisation means less offshore workers
Someone teach this anon supply and demand.

>>64846945
>>64849991
>The point is that the reason you don't want kids has nothing to do with the economic pity party that you're presenting
ok but it has everything to do with economics and to continue to say it doesn't is just seethe on your part for not understanding the statistics. OTHER people having kids doesn't change the statistical trend of less kids overall because of economic stressors.

>>64781938
she never said she wanted me to have sex, just that the people who have children need to have at least three kids to grow the population. Pretty sure she wants me to keep masturbating to her

>>64857347
She wants you to mating press her
TAKE
THE
HINT

>>64847472
biology doesn't mean victory, animal.

>>64857117
>numberfag is a fag
Not surprised

>>64827762
>date messican girls/latinas
Oh boy I LOVE Menhera girls

>>64848468
>>64849008
397251

>>64857117
There are less children because of the sexual revolution. Not because of muh economy. You are in the 90th percentile of wealth worldwide if you live in a first world country and have a home and a job.
Poorfags and third worlders shit our children like it’s their hobby.
You aren’t having children because you’re socially inhibited and don’t put yourself in situations where you’ll ever meet a woman that wants to have children with you.

>>64848649
>old people living for longer and longer
>make it so people are compensated less and less for their labor and time
>pass dumb laws year after year to fuck over the young
>blame the young for not having kids
MANY such cases.

>>64865256
>There are less children because of the sexual revolution. Not because of muh economy.
Oh okay so it's WOMEN'S fault there are less children, not because having a kid makes zero sense and puts two people behind in severe economic debt as experts have identified due to rising costs of living and stagnating wages.

Get laid and touch grass, incel.

>>64796139
Dunno about Japanese women and latino but Japanese men actually find Latina to be the most attractive overseas race

>>64865256
ok then explain >>64856265

>>64865434
> Oh okay so it's WOMEN'S fault there are less children
It takes two to tango, sugar tits. If women said “you only get to touch me if you agree to give me children,” the first world “population crisis” would be resolved overnight. Women have spent decades now devaluing sex to the point that they treat it like a night out at the movies, with no particular emotional or spiritual significance.
Men went along with the grift because men are pussy whipped, and will do whatever women want as long as they can presumably get laid out of the deal.
But women are not innocent lambs.

>>64865646
>It takes two to tango, sugar tits. If women said “you only get to touch me if you agree to give me children,” the first world “population crisis” would be resolved overnight. Women have spent decades now devaluing sex to the point that they treat it like a night out at the movies, with no particular emotional or spiritual significance.
>Men went along with the grift because men are pussy whipped, and will do whatever women want as long as they can presumably get laid out of the deal.
it's hilarious this exchange started with you calling me a socially inhibited before pulling out literally the most insane /r9k/ tier cope imaginable. This is one step above saying "normalfags are the problem".

Which this still wouldn't explain why countries generally more conservative are having this problem. The economic explanation explains it perfectly: Globalization and the economy has made the general populace much poorer and incapable of shouldering the debt of extended families.

vtubers, huh guys?

>>64865916
listen I need to argue the ECONOMICS of why I can't fuck Noel.

>>64782826
Strange, I don't remember writing this post?

>>64865434
actually, it's both of those.

>>64781938
I volunteer as tribute

I'm ugly and broke, nobody wants me.

>>64781938
Population growth serves no good purpose any longer. Technology will replace human labor sooner or later, and when it happens Noel, you will realize just how disposable all of us are.
Also, no one wants to have sex with me let alone the handholding required to make a baby.

>>64793309
This was my first thought. Stop telling me to go have sex if you aren't offering it. Fucking women I swear

>>64865434
>Oh okay so it's WOMEN'S fault there are less children
Women are the ones who can have kids, if kids aren't being born it's because of women no matter how you cut it.
And sure economics play a large role but the sheer amount of women who openly state they never will have kids because they don't like them here in the west is massive, especially among those in their twenties.

Vtubers amirite?

I don't have time to play diseased human games, let alone raise a child for 20+ years.
Here's an insane and probably uneconomical idea; pay sets of vetted, STD-tested partners a certain reward each to get on with it and immediately put the result up for adoption. The "certain amount" depends on how much total funding parliament is willing to burn to test millions of people, get them to reproduce, and house millions of extra children on what I hear are already strained systems.

>>64878195
>adoption
There are already a ton of children up for adoption, and comparatively very few of them are actually getting adopted. For your plan to work, there'd have to be subsidies for people to adopt these children, at which point why not just subsidise normal child-making?
Also, there will be uproar from people calling this a eugenics program, not to mention the increased (very low, but non-zero) risk of incest by these extra children.

>>64849625
Bad parents want to force money making responsibilities on children

>>64852966
The logistic and resource for housing is reaching its limit. Economy too, less job less wage

>>64785542
Holy shit the amount of copium and seething this got is amazing.

>>64846945
>despite living in the most comfortable era mankind has ever experienced all act like a bunch of faggots complaining about the slightest inconvenience
isn't that the end result of increased standards of living

>>64853595
This faggot fell for the tax scam

>>64855864
Cost of education - far less due to employee training program and lower skill requirement
Cost of caretaker - free due to help from relative and grandparents
Cost of toys, clothes - varies due to hand me down in local community a common practice
Cost of housing - much lower, even a factory worker can afford a house in their 30s

>>64824965
Because only the lowest IQ third worlders are breeding. Literally every first world country is in a death spiral and importing thirdies just to keep above water.

>>64781938
The irony of Noel saying this when Her RM is literally milking money out of Her huge tits been a Webcam whore showing and doing anything for the right price so nippon bros rub out one for Her

>>64782110
Culture is the most relevant factor

>>64857117
That faggot just bad at math and incapable of understanding it

>>64782826
Someone settle it for me. Is she even a hag? I had someone say she's past hagdom and I have no idea who is what in need of saving anymore.

>>64865409
>aging population will vote for people who support enslaving the young to serve the old
>even more burden to the young
>birthrate drop even more
It's a vicious circle

>>64865256
Wrong. If local women are picky but you have money you can get a hot immigrant chick easily

>>64785542
>This is nothing compared to that
Women then wanted kids and marriage. Now you can have a roastie who's rode the cc for almost 2 decades, she's ready to settle down and at the ripe old age of 38 she just noticed you existed after you spent your whole life invisible. She can give you 1, maybe 2 kids both of which have symptoms of autism and maybe other issues, she will then say she's not feeling it, divorce you and steal half your lifes earings, force you to pay her for the next 18 years and maybe you can see the kids once a month, unless you follow her on social media where she announces your son is now your daughter.

Why aren't more people having kids?

>>64880381
>>64878195
Adoption is pointless if you're single. If you aren't single you can have kids unless infertile. People talking about adoption piss me off, I don't even have pets because I can't give them the love and attention they deserve due to my life meaning 99% of their life would be indoors, in the dark with no company. If I can't support an animal how the fuck can I justify a human?
Oh hey kids, I rescued you from that orphanage with all the other kids, so you can come home to an empty house becuase my shifts are late. See you at 7am after I'm done with work, we can talk before you elave for school.

>>64883385
mail-order bride seems like my only option at this point, but i'm skeptical

>>64885013
You can always start with a gold fish. I took care of 2 dogs just fine

>>64885885
Go to a trip, hanging out in the bar, brag about your country, those women will flock to your side