/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

First for all those who held onto Irys

I love some INFLATION in the morning.

Except inflates except the things I own.

>first post isn't wah!
Market crash incoming.

>>6454511

So I know this is incredibly autistic also nobody fucking cares but we need a bump somehow.
Depending on how long-term market trends go and how badly I fuck up I plan to go with the following oshi-investment plan
Baseline: 35 Miko daily
Price >6k: 0 Mikos
Price <4k: 70 Mikos
Price <3,5k: 105 Mikos (basically all day minus sleep)
thanks for coming to my PLEB Talk.

>>6455186
Baseline: 144 susie
暗闇の中でダンサー passed: 132 (I close nasfaq on my phone to listen to sleep asmr)

>>6455408
yeah I'm not reaching such wonderful riches any time soon especially if they actually nerf the divvies.

>>6455389
thread driving away

Devchama why dont you put some gambling in the game? Like poker and black jack for the dead hours.

>>6455408
You sleep for 2 hours????

>>6455526

>>6455355
I see your School Rumble and raise you for a Girls und Panzer Shark Team Theme

>>6455685

I have been buying Ame instead of selling

>>6455653
I'm probably going to let you take it for now, I can't handle this much boggenning anymore, it's actually depressing me.

>>6455982
Anon it's too early to give up now.

I SOLD IRYS
I DIDN'T HAVE HOPE
FORGIVE ME

>>6456246
Don't worry there'll be next time.
Start buying again in six hours

How do I carbon-coat my portfolio?

>>6457369
Do what? I'm sorry i can't hear you over me selling hope

>>6457369
just buy all civia she never bogs
just buy haachama she never does stuff so never bogs
just liquidize everything for the week and buy in at divvies
JUST

marine best keep rising...

>>6457530
Marine rising through the bog

>>6457369
Liquidate everything and buy coin after everything been bogged.
Then wait for adjustments and pray.

>>6457369
Being a Poorfag 101:
>Never have less than what you earned in divvies available liquid at the end of the day until Wednesday. This remains true until you earn so much in divvies you can't possibly spend them between Wednesday at Saturday 00:00
>Buy Maririn. She could bog 75% and we'd fucking buy her right back up to $10k. Rushia and Pekora also similarly bulletproof. Bogs are temporary, there are no bags, Sankisei is forever.
>Never hold Mori longer than REDACTED days. All I will tell you is that today is the day you should've started buying her non-stop at adjustment.
>Buy 8/16/24/32 Ina every day depending on how low she dips. Sell half of them at the 19th hour if she hasn't streamed. The Takos will hold your bags.
>Do the same for Suisei, multiples of 8 not required. Hoshiyomis will hold your bags.
>Buy 8 Haato every day at adjustment. Do not touch them. You will receive the schizo's blessing.
>Buy a few dozen shitcoins whenever they stream, sell them the next day. Do not hold shitcoins.
>The moratorium on buying Towa is now back in effect. Never buy Towa.
>Do not try to understand Kanata's adjustment, dividends, or volatility.
>Acquire 35 Miko for the shrine maiden's blessing.
>Use Shion as a savings account.
>Diversify your bonds, nigga.
Wu Tang. Alternatively, you could set your portfolio on fire. Ash and soot are carbon.
If you're rich, mo' money, mo' problems. The amount of time you have to spend to continue rising up only goes up with time.

>>6458106 cont.
TL:DR buy red sell green

wah...

>>6458432
it's too late we're all fucked now!

>>6458473
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

>>6458106
This is some good advise.
Also to add to this pay attention to what's being said in the thread and pay attention to the recent history see the way the market is moving.
Another thing which is worth taking with a pinch of salt is pay attention to what the skitzos are posting since their buys share Haato's shitzo blessing.

>>6458658
Also always buy coins that are valued lower than than what their divis will pay out since no matter how bogged they'll get their price will skyrocket come friday when everyone will buy as much as they can.
But at the same time don't over invest since the price can drop quicker than you can sell your coin.

>>6455514
Poker would be most patrician if done right, I'd consider getting 5x as active just because of that.

>Suisei screams at her monitor like a psychopath for 3 hours while sucking at APEX
>highest viewed stream since Coco graduation karaoke
uhhh, INSTALLED

>>6459320
You WILL play Apex.
You WILL git gud at Wingman.
You WILL stream snipe you're waifu and be her guardian angel, killing all who dare oppose her.

>>6455514
>the dead hours
There are no dead hours only missed oppertunities.

did the devs toyed again with the volatility of the market? Everything's moving fast again

>>6459466
Supposedly the opposite, either yesterday or Saturday, can't remember, the entire weekend was so fucked it just blurred into one.

>>6459466
I don't think so. It's probably just that people are so desperate for greens to sell on that volume on those coins in particular is going down.

>>6459554
>>6459560
iunno but Irys was dropping for a dollar per transaction just a couple of hours ago. Now it's 2 dollars

Moving adjustment from 6am to 2pm actually made my sleep worse I think. Previously I could rely on my convictions and typically was right, now I have to stay up til HOUR NINETEEN to double check everything before I go to bed.

>>6459680
>HOUR NINETEEN controlling his life...
he he he...

>>6459668
A ton of IRyS coins were sold (7200>4700), so her volatility was increased maybe?

fuck I should've bought more Towa

>>6459878

>>6459878

Did you rike it (today's adjustment)?

>>6460020
Very much so.

>>6460020
Yeah but tomorrow is probably going to suck.

>>6458106

>>6460020
>towa barely dropping
>IRyS incline
>Mori still isn't fixed
>Rushia still below 3k despite buying like 50 of her coins already
>gura dropping
today is a good day

>>6455514
Put some gacha bullshit devs, i dare you

stream's back.
>>6460126
subarashii. saved.

>>6460092
Have Hope

>>6455982
just woke up
please don't give up!!!

>>6460200
Gacha RNG might be more tolerable than this shit right now tbdesu

>>6459320
>uhhh, INSTALLED
I installed apex after the stream and got filtered by the tutorial

>>6460388
Game tutorials are always garbage. Playing your first game is usually a better way to see if you truly like the game or not,

>>6460020
best non-divvy day in weeks

Does anyone have the boggening factory comic? I need it for something

>>6460641

>>6460641
the original lol

>>6460599
Not him but the game makes you play the tutorial, which has some finnicky shit in it for no reason.

>>6460664
>>6460685
Thanks

>>6460747
NP. Even original-er if you were going to bog someone else.

>>6459320
I WILL NOT BLAY APEX! I WILL NOT PLAY APEX!
not after wasting all my youth in a moba games

>>6460664
>>6460685
Ironic how this F-Cup sexy hag weathers all the storms.

>>6460783
i love caek

>>6460388
Literally me

I'm done selling Irys I'm going to start buying her again in another 4 hours.

>>6460975
I was worried I bought too many.

>>6459668
I wonder about the volatility changes so I decided to test something quickly. Two random pairs of sells and the recorded price difference between them for four coins, with total share circulation at the end. I always assumed it was somewhat proportional to total shares and they just messed with the numbers slightly but this is weird. Ask/Bid spread seems to line up quite well but doesn't explain Irys. Raw volume right but buy/sell ratio doesn't.

>>6461394
it's also scaling with coin value now.

>>6461394
So IRyS is actually decreasing by more per sale the more we sell her? Maybe it's not just volume but volume + velocity, although that wouldn't explain Rushia crabbing while we pump her, or Marine spiking as hard as she does. I think the coin's actual price and/or % change might have something to do with it. devchama said the equations were all autistic as fuck.

Marine's gonna crab so fucking hard tomorrow. I'll just buy more.

>>6460599
after the tutorial I got an error where I had to restart the router and I was using hotel wifi. My indieis going to play with viewers tomorrow, maybe I should download the 80gb again

>>6461394
Hey anon, I'm not able to check it at this moment, but I have a crazy theory. Can you run the numbers on the Mamas? Particularly Nabi.

>>6461335
I'm at 42 with MPP of 4K so I think you're in a good place right now.

>>6461335
>IRyS is already down to 9k
>MPP of $2k
Bros I'm struggling to not sell my last few. The divvies...

>>6461669
NTA, but a while back I bought/sold Nabi back to back, 10 min apart, with no other activity on her in the history. I made $1 and some change. There's some kind of fuckery about it.
>>6461693
>>6461763
I'm going to sell at least until HOUR NINETEEN. If she doesn't bog tomorrow she's going to bog at some point during the week. You'd be out of your mind to hold. She'd have to end the week at something like $14k AND pay 50% divvies for it to even be worth it for you $2k-san.

>>6461763
With an MPP you don't really have much to lose with holding out for her Divvies and buying more for when the price drops even lower.
But that's my geniune advise you're free to sell right now for your shortterm gain.
Hololive is also at a good place to buy again.
>>6461864
>You'd be out of your mind to hold
People were saying that yesterday as well and you've already read their posts.

https://twitter.com/ino_tac/status/1414528546165325825
FEET ON A SONG THAT FEATURES SUISEI
BUY BUY BUY

>>6461911
*with an MPP like that

>>6461911
>People were saying that yesterday as well and you've already read their posts.
That was obvious FUD, she didn't have any views in for her first adjustment that was to "overall market performance".
Do you think she's somehow going to outperform 43,000 daily subs, 331,200 weekly subs, and 1,304,941 daily views at adjustment tomorrow? Buy the dip if you want divs. I also have a very strong suspicion that her divs are going to be average or even shit for the first week, you want next week's divs.
One of those clear situations where "MPP is meaningless" if I sell it all for $7k profit right now and buy again tomorrow at $4k; more money and the same amount of coins.

>>6461494
You would assume that would have to be the case or you could technically stockpile a shitcoin and then unload everything on a bad day and blast it into the ground but Gura moves $1.04 a sale.
>>6461669
If people actually bought them I could, I'm literally just screenshotting values from recent history because I am not good at computer. I used to have a bunch of data but it's all outdated.
Ayamy moves 5c a share, or 1.3% of her cost, Gura moves 104c or 1.0% of her cost, they have the two closest total shares I could find. Suisei moves 1.6% and has almost exactly half as many shares. These are just the ramblings of a madman and may not be useful.
>>6461920
It won't even be on her channel, it is quite catchy though.
>>6462130
I expect her divs to get fucked up and to be absolutely retarded but I don't play on buying til she's at her cheapest for the week to test that.

>>6462130
You are right and I'll admit you are talking sense.
However I don't believe that what we are dealing with is something that functions under traditional logical and from now until friday we are submerged in a twilight zone where anything can happen anyone can be bogged to hell and anyone can blaze through the charts in a moment.
All we can do is HOPE that we'll be lucky and trust in the things that have brought us to this point.
In short if I'm not already skitzo I'm dangerously close to being one and I'm not viewing this game through a mind that works under traditional logic.

>>6461920
feetfag, pissfags and bloodfags get the rope

>>6462537
do u really beleeb? she's still going to get another million views and a few more subs tacked on for tomorrow. probably still gonna hold a few myself out of morbid curiosity because as far as divs are concerned, I already made Saturday's divs again this morning

Irys has 2.2m views, unless devs manually provide her dividends or compare her numbers to a different, comparable channel for the first week they're going to be fucking broken. The only saving grace is over half her subs were technically last week, assuming you think dividend gains only work on a week to week basis and take nothing else into account, I'm sure some APIfag with a spreadsheet is laughing at my naivety regarding that.

>>6462885
I do.
In fact fuck it I'll give you all the mother of all rrrats right here and now.
I don't believe we can relay on the number for shit no matter what the devs tell us it's all one big game.
We all exist as entertainment for the Gods both our chubbas and our threads that's our purpose and whatever outcome we'll recieve will fall into that narrative.

Why is Marine-obaasan up this early playing fucking Minecraft?
>>6463149
ogey

>>6460756
I prefer the /v/ edit honestly.

>>6463836
Noel and Kanata did such a number on her during the bath stream she slept like a baby.

I realised I never actually read the div thread this week because I was asleep so I thought I'd have a look now.
>>6322551
Haachama's Duck is confirmed honk. In a week when everyone got repeatedly bogged he's up nearly 50% and if you check his wallet it's the same as everyone else but with a bunch of weird, random shit befitting a schizo.

>>6464569
honk is a deadbeat though

>>6464569
>Haachama's Duck is confirmed honk.
Honk asked if Haachama's Duck was cheating a few weeks ago, was it a cover up? The reason he asked if Duck was cheating is because he earns more money than anyone else on daytrades

>>6464569

>>6464720
that's just a front

>>6464569
All the Haachama wallets make no sense to me. These people literally never go down at adjustment even if everyone else does. You look at their wallet and they never have anything that looks like "Oh, that's why they didn't go down" they just simply never lose money.

>>6464758
>Honk asked if Haachama's Duck was cheating
How the fuck are you supposed to cheat at a game where you have almost no control over unless you're in Cover's management or part of the dev team.

WELCOME -- TO HOUR NINETEEN
HOUR NINETEEN...
THE... NINETEENTH HOUR
IT'S NOT THE SEVENTEENTH HOUR
IT'S NOT THE... NINTH HOUR
IT'S HOUR NINETEEN
ONE... NINE...
A VERY... SPECIAL HOUR
IN THAT, HOUR NINETEEN, IS THE NINETEENTH HOUR, NOT... ANY OTHER HOUR
VERY FEW HOURS CAN CLAIM TO BE THE NINETEENTH HOUR
THIS HOUR... IS ONE OF THOSE HOURS
AND AS WE SIT HERE, ENJOYING THIS HOUR, THE NINETEENTH HOUR, LET'S SPARE A MOMENT, TO THINK OF THOSE HOURS THAT AREN'T QUITE THE NINETEENTH HOUR
HOUR EIGHTEEN... AND HOUR TWENTY

WELCOME TO THE NINETEENTH HOUR!

>>4722876
>>4725081
he is just a turbo autist

the haatons are sharing data to further please the voices in their heads. you think discord haaotns are a meme anons? but seriously i think he just cracked the formula and taking full advantage of it as he should be

>>6465035
Alright I'm doing it.
Fuck the meds I'm buying.

>>6464813
>You look at their wallet and they never have anything that looks like "Oh, that's why they didn't go down" they just simply never lose money.
Neither have I, relatively speaking. They're Haatons,
maybe they're actually schizos. Also Haato has literally only gone up. The smartest long term play actually ended up being "buy haato".
I mean, uh, picrel.
>>6465102
Oh damn that is some next level shit. Nice work.

>>6465236
Honestly, Haato is one hell of a good buy. Stable coin while also having the chance to moon that is, she comes back.

when the fuck is Ui's 3D going to debut? I've been waiting for like a month now

>>6465035
will poi be ok

>>6465387
oh she's coming back alright on her semestral break I guess

>>6465397
never, but I'm still gonna hold cause I have nothing else to lose.

>>6465433
It's still down?! Fuck.

poi still down... too lazy to check socialblade. time to go in blind. if someone kind enough to share view diff that will be great

>>6465501
That's the spirt.

>>6464813
They did double her shares in circulation in 2 weeks but did it at such a rate that increased her price by about 25% without pushing the bog rebounder too far. That's pretty nifty.
>>6465102
jesas. I have a few spreadsheets but I never use them because I'd have to manually input the data every day. Even with clairvoyance I don't really see how this helps you when you have, say, more than 100 of any coin. No amount of Lamy going up $200 can offset Pekora falling $4k. I suppose if you bought enough, different shit coins (and enough of them happened to actually be going up) you could effectively hedge big swings, kinda.

It didn't occur to me until just now but Irys shares the same name as the eygpian god Iris just with a different spelling but the same pronounication.
I've been praying/worshiping her this entire time that's why things have been acting strangly.

Like a bolt from the blue, it's time for the Numbers Review.

First up, the R.I.C.H. report for today:
>Total shares in circulation is 307,250.
>This is a 4.4% increase from yesterday's value.
>Average shares per coin is 6,559.

Top 5 Volume Increases (of 34):
>Pochimaru :: +52.5%
>Mio :: +32.6%
>Nene :: +28.7%
>Roboco :: +27.2%
>Coco :: +23%

Top 5 Volume Decreases (of 17):
>IRyS :: -40.5%
>Ollie :: -17.6%
>Botan :: -14.8%
>Hololive :: -14.3%
>Towa... :: -13.2%

One coin (Nabi) had a volume change of less than 1%.

Here's the R.I.S.E. report for today:
>Starting Liquid is estimated at $39,862.78, with a margin of error of $100.
>This is a decrease of 2.6% from yesterday's value.
>Total Market Value is $1,456,164,897.99.
>This is a 0.13% increase from yesterday's Market Value.
>Average value per share is $4,739.35.

Top 5 Value Gains (of 19):
>Towa... :: +42.5%
>IRyS :: +38.9%
>Marine :: +14.4%
>Fubuki :: +10.9%
>Flare :: +10.3%

Top 5 Value Losses (of 32):
>Pochimaru :: -37.9%
>Nabi :: -35.8%
>Rushia :: -28.5%
>Coco :: -21.2%
>Sora :: -19.4%

Hololive had a net value change of roughly 0%, moving only $1.64 upwards.
3 other coins (Haato, Okayu, Inanis) had a value change of less than 1%.

And now for the weather.
Hurricane Bogration has begun to let up. It is now only a Category 2 Boggening, and we expect there to be lessened but continual storms throughout the rest of the week. We advise people keep their wallets boarded up and to make sure to keep lots of pure liquids around, just in case the Peko Power goes out. Magic may not be real, but Hope is still very much alive. Make sure to hold on to it in these dark times.

The Financial Underwriters of Comprehensive Knowledge would like to remind you to stay informed, shitpost responsibly, and FUD accurately.

>>6465784
Her stats don't matter what matters is that sometime in the future she'll return to how she was before.

>>6465784
Flare is down 236,000 views. Marine is up 304,000 but you niggers already way overbought her. None of the others I have tabs for have updated yet.

>>6465970
It didn't occur to me until just now but Towa shares the same name as the eygpian god Horus just with a different spelling but the same pronounication.
I've been praying/worshiping her this entire time that's why things have been acting strangly.

>>6466012
>>Towa... :: +42.5%
Anons.. why didn't you tell me to buy Towa?

>>6465232
>buying IRyS now
You're supposed to wait for tomorrow's adjustment.

Reminder to buy Okayu and Korone

>>6466034
i assume you mean haato in this post? i meant every single chuuba view diff but thanks anyways
>>6466059
thanks. made me double checked aaand it's true. sigh

Selling my bargain 3.1k la lions at a loss because she's dropping AGAIN. Sigh.

Irys will surge again since she's already oversold

>>6466284
NP. Rushia just updated, +110,000.
>>6466333
trips of truth

>>6466333
surging from what? if you think a -625497 will produce a surge then sure

>>6466173
Look at what rational thinking has gotten us all so far.
Only HOPE can save us.

>>6466453
It's time for DESPAIR to win.

IF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS EACH HOLDS 1k+ WE COULD CONTROL 60% OF THE MARKET. COMET OF STAR STREET AND SUITYAN WAKE UP ONEGAI

>>6466445
funny that you disregard her sub gains when it has more weight than views

>>6466574
>EACH HOLDS 1k+
>COMET OF STAR STREET
That's more than 100% of their net worth.
>>6466636
Funny that you disregard she's getting a smaller daily sub tick than the one she already got this morning.

>>6466636
ok good luck haha. feel free to grudge post me

>>6466333
It's funny because it's probably true. I don't know what caused her to dip on Saturday (because devs said first adjustment would be magic) but it kinda implies $5740 is her base price and 2.x5 seems to be the most anything can go up these days. I'm gonna keep 50, it genuinely wouldn't surprise me if she went back to 12k.
>>6466636
But she got more subs yesterday than to... ok nevermind nafaq seems to have just made her subs up as it went along. They may not use socialblade but that shit doesn't even add up.
>>6466574
Spending 8m on Sui is a great way to ensure you need to create a new account. if you want to actually play the game.

>>6466636
>more weight than views
lmao, this guy. like how when she got 300k subs and no views and just crabbed?

>>6466732
YOU HAB TO BELEB IN HIM. I BELEB. U HAV TO BELEB.

>>6466284
Haato's stocks still work under the same 'rules' as all the others.
It just means that everyone just doesn't really understand the truth of the algorithm.

How many poli's have you even bought?

>>6466871
nasfaq subs count at adjustment time everyday while socialblade subs are at the time the views are counted

>>6466732
>>6466768
>>6466871
>>6466880
Nasfaq didnt read all of the subs from yesterday. She might get the same amount of subs today. If she gets 700k-800k today, she'll prolly adjust up by a little

>>6466980
socialblade actually updates subs in real time, you'll see ticks for channels that haven't had their views counted yet
>>6467108
she actually has 7k more than she should have because subs get updated in real time rather than daily, it's rare that it causes a problem (a streamer getting a 10k tick a day early is annoying as fuck). grabbing subs at HOUR NINETEEN would fix it but, again, it's probably not worth the effort.

>>6467108
I was about to tell you that I don't think that's how it works. She has 406k total subs on NASFAQ. The live sub count on SB is 428k. But if you add her daily subscriber graph points up on NASFAQ, she only has 377,200. You might be onto something oyabun. 2YNRV

Anyways I'm waiting for Coco to start going up

>>6467779
Anon...

>>6467405
NTA but 428k - the 29k from today puts her at 399 but nasfaq has her at 406. I decided not to bother reading anything into the daily sub graph since she technically had 171k subs before she existed I assumed she'd just get all the missing ones at once but apparently not.

>>6467779
Cocos value in the month of June went up 500%
If these trends continue, ayy

>>6467779
What if, by complete surprise, a video from Coco gets unprivated? That's unironically the only way I see Coco going up.

>>6467825
What? That's expected behavior for a dead coin. She should start increasing in value like Haachama. Devs have literally said Haachama going up day after day despite no views is intended.

>>6468546
it's because there are actually people buying haato...

>>6468546
>She should start increasing in value like Haachama.
Haato's # of coins in circulation goes up by at least 500 daily, and her view count is not dropping day to day. If you want to turn Coco into Haato, you better start pumping.

>>6468546
enjoy your 5% divvies for marginal coin value increase.

>>6468631
>>6468652
On that topic, people actually HAVE a reason to buy Haato. She hasn't graduated, and the people buying them are hoping she's going to be back to making videos. Coco? Dead as fuck. Never coming back.

I don't usually care enough because I'm pretty bad at this game and only good at making autistic charts, but if IRyS adjusts up tomorrow I will make a report on how much I love dicks in my ass.

>>6468756
>He doesn't believe.
Honestly just waiting for one of the devs to stealthily tie Coco's coin to a certain on-air streamer.

>>6468631
Haato goes up at adjustment, not just throughout the day. Don't you remember when she went up $1000 a week or so ago?

>>6469046
Sub tick. The real question is why she did it the day BEFORE the sub tick as well, you can check the graph, it didn't get double counted, at least not publically.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>6468871
>I don't usually care enough because I'm pretty bad at this game and only good at making autistic charts, but if IRyS adjusts up tomorrow I will make a report on how much I love dicks in my ass.
I expect the report on my desk before the 19th hour.
>>6469031
i want to beleeb
>>6469046
Sub tick, daily view fluctuation, etc.

>>6468871
start writing.

>>6468871
Please if you do I'll write up how Irys is the litteral reincation of the ancient egyptian god and I'll continue posting about how anons here should give up all delusions of control and take the skitzo pill.

>>6469167
sometimes the api time fucks up for some reason and one day's views are slightly moved into another day, this is Shion's for example and she got 20k views moved from one day to another because of an API fuck up causing her to dip/adjust up

>>6469031
Even if they wanted to, how do you even scrape views on mildom?

>>6469046
Here's Haato's valuation changes from R.I.S.E. reports for the last week:
>7/5 :: +2.8%
>7/6 :: +4.8%
>7/7 :: +0.8%
>7/8 :: +2.4%
>7/9 :: +7.9%
>7/10 :: -0.4%
>7/11 :: +4.5%

And here's the volume changes from the R.I.C.H. reports:
>7/5 :: +8.5%
>7/6 :: +3.8%
>7/7 :: +5.8%
>7/8 :: +5.3%
>7/9 :: -3.6%
>7/10 :: +9.7%
>7/11 :: +5.3%

>Haato gets a massive surge on Friday
>Also a dip on Saturday
Explain this, Mikoler.

>>6468871
IRyS will probably adjust up because shes going to get sold back down to like 7k and she will get enough subs and views to push her up to 8-9k

>>6468871
Im setting a goal to sell 144 Aristocrat coins to crash her value down. I hope you're ready posting those pictures

>>6469861
Thanks I'll accept your coins.

>>6469573
>>Haato gets a massive surge on Friday
>>Also a dip on Saturday
>Explain this, Mikoler.
Sub tick...

>>6469573
Again...sub tick.

>>6470315
>>6470412
>It's a sub tick bro!
Haaton's have the fucking Devil's Luck, then. In the middle of the biggest bog in at least 3 months, not only does she adjust up sharply after adjusting upward routinely, but she adjusts up on the best day of the week to see an upward adjustment on your regular bags.

Magic is real and it's powered by Schizos.

>>6470761
If we'd been buying kusogaki or whore instead they'd have done the same thing.

>>6470761
Haatons are spreading the word everywhere to keep boosting her subs

Oh cool, someone is playing a racing game
>It's GURA, it's a sim, she clearly has never even launched it before
I hate cover so much sometimes.

>>6471401
meds

Towa? more like ToHoax am i right

>>6471401
Take your meds. This stream is kino.

>>>/m/agic+is+real

NONONONONONO WHY IS THE LINE GOING SIDEWAYS STOP SELLING STOP SELLING AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6472134
I'd expect about 9.3k, their loss.

>>6472134
It's not like you would ever be able to sell all of that product anyway.

>>6472503
never selling.

Death by mogu, a noble goal.

>>6471480
your total command over the english language indicates your true character to be of an intellectual of the highest calibur
I only hold my deepest gratitude and appreciation for your courage and strength
keep fighting the good fight in these trying times, anon

I HAVE SEEN TGE TRUTH AND I'M HERE TO SHARE IT WITH YOU ANONS.
THE NINETEENTH HOUR IS FUD, IT'S ALL AN ELABORATE SCHEME BY THE TENTACULT TO CONTROL YOUR TRADES AND KEEP YOU IN CHECK LIKE THE SHEEPS THAT THEY THINK YOU ARE. IF YOU HOLD DEAR YOUR FREEDOM TO TRADE EVERYTHING YOU WANT YOU NEED TO RISE UP AGAINS-

>>6474169
another WAHn bites the dust

>>6474272
jesas this is so cursed. sakurai would fucking put ina in smash before mah boy. wah ;_;

i have lost faith in the current marine declining and sold my one and only marine share. bad choice or no?

>>6474807
You wont find out until tomorrow. ON THE NEXT EXCITING EPISODE OF NASFAQ Z

>>6474807
if you can only buy one share then you should rebuy it and wait to sell at adjustment

Stop buying my fucking oshi, final warning.

>>6475396
who is your Oshi so I can stop buying

>Sell IRyS on the first moments she goes up
>Buy some oshi coin
>Have spare money to buy an IRyS when she drops later tonight
Truly, the perfect plan.

https://twitter.com/murasakishionch/status/1414770393500377092
SHE'S BACK BUY BUY BUY

>they're not buying more irys
she's gong back to 12k and you're all faggots

>>6475832
I still have dozens of her from buying her ipo, I dont need more.

>>6475832
I still have 90 of her coins

>>6475832
>selling IRyS
>selling HOPE
ngmi

>>6474807
NGMI
>>6475084
bamboozled by my own creation, I hate you. does anyone know where the hell to find more textless title cards? that was the only one I could find with the dragon balls on it

>>6475762
>anon posted something similar just before the lastest boggening
the losses were immeasurable, I didn't even buy and I'm traumatized

>>6476061
bet on Hope, get your Rope

>>6476277
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13570

PSA
Marine will adjust to $8.800

>>6476525
Thank you. Came across them as well, guess I'll just have to suck it up and superimpose dragonballs on them or be lazy and just keep reusing that first card
>>6476666
ogey satan

>>6475762
Towa Baby...

>>6475832
>Used up her post-debut hype
>Everyone unanimously considers her ugly
>First game stream was a mere 20k viewers
>Next streams are just Q&A and APHEX
Her real value is 3.5k - 4.5k

>>6476958
>real value is x.xk - x.xk
not that real value isn't a thing but a lot of pricing/adjustment is decided by streaming schedule

>>6476958
who died and made you honk?

>>6476666
Checked, but nah, 10.3-10.5 I think.
>>6476958
that's an awful lot of irrelevant points just to explain that you're an innumerate goatfucker

>>6477319
Marine is overbought, I don't think she'll go that high.

>>6477753
overbought according to what? does zHonk think less people should own her coin and is he going to bog her because of that?

>>6477951
Yes, that's how it works.

>>6478001
cant argue with that logic, Mori should absolutely go lower until there are 0 shares in circulation.

>>6478099
Calli is going up to $5700

I was wondering why people are still buying Mori and then I realized she got zero (0) views yesterday for some fucking reason. Honk, you might have to fix her again

>>6478180

>>6478180
fuck you. Stop sharing that shit.

>>6478180
>5700
>he doesn't know

>>6478844
Oh, I know.

Don't worry, she'll be back to 3k the day after tomorrow.

>>6468256
>averages disappear
>some more subs from absolute r*ddit cretins
>suddenly $8k like Heart-Oh!
you read it here first!

>>6468756
>comes back
>7 videos a week, one daily
>plummets to a shitcoin but divvies get better
the Haatons just win

So I get that poi is down, but why aren't you guys buying Lamy, Haato, Ame and Aqua? What did I miss?

>>6471024
>>6470761
>>6469573
>can't superchat her $5k a week
>all this money buys subs now
it's simple you buffoons.

>>6480226
>Lamy
I have plenty of Ramirez
>Haato
riding the haaton wave
>Ame
shitcoin
>Aqua
Tell me your wisdom

>>6480226
poi isn't down, and that's precisely why I'm not buying any of those.

i build a new pc, can someone give me a link to the soundpost plugin?

>>6480226
>Ramirez
need her to dip some more to correct this shit.

>>6480226
why would I buy overpriced Ame?

>>6480503
internet.com
https://mega.nz/file/pKQ2lBIb#zP_SAaPhxueMPrhAi7EtD9JIQTrd7tKc40WBuT533n0

>>6480583
many thanks

>>6480226
>Lamy
Got about as many as I can sell already
>Haato
nice try faggot
>Ame
same as lamy
>Aqua
honk is a nigger and she fell 20% yesterday for going from 140k to 110k views, she's probably already overbought.

>>6475084
Ewww dubs. Ewww Faulconer music.
>>6476525
thanks once again
>>6480620
Fresh for your new PC.

just checked my youtube
>>6480878
kek

>>6480729
>he doesn't know

SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL

>>6480878
ahhhhhhhh fuck the furigana is wrong 悪化 あっか

sell or hold coco?

>>6481070
wow, actually real and not towababy
https://twitter.com/kureijiollie/status/1414787231626121219
does this bitch always shout?

I think the devs are manually upping the volatility of coins. Ayamy just shoots up out of nowhere, from 0.5 per transaction to 1 doller

>>6481195
that's adorable

>>6482684
she's at 0.05 per transaction right now, devs will announce changes

roboco reclining why?

>>6482904
Not really. Bull trap.

>>6482684
setting up a min transaction might be good for the overall health of the game. but not for shitcoins for sure

>>6482904
>>6482972
I need sleep. Bear trap. She's adjusting up tomorrow.

>>6483578
>not holding 1488 Pekoin
baka desu senpai

>>6483578
usada really has no true oshi here huh...

Hi-
Going forward, we have decided to remove the overbought mechanism from adjustment so that overbought coins now crab rather than drop. There is also now a minimum price change on trading to prevent high volume coins from stagnating too much. We'll see how these changes help give a bit more control of the market back to the players. Thanks!

>>6484249
you really love Europe huh.
ON goes the autotrader for the last great deals of this meta

>>6484249

>>6484249
also doesn't that mean IRyS is now a permanent 10k shitcoin?

>>6484249
>removing the overbought mechanism
oh boy here we go again

>>6484249
you better make a post on the floor with your post number.

Ayamy is going up really fast.

>>6484249

>>6484249
>we decided to remove the overbought mechanic
if this really is Honk, that sucks. I had some good laughs with the mechanic. I hope there's a way to at least punish richfags who're trying to lock and control certain coins

>>6484249
HONK YOU FOOL! EVERYTHING IS GONNA BE VOLATILE NOW! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>6484592
honk please add taxes to the poor

>>6484592
that's PRECISELY what this last update enabled them to and they all are waiting for this very fucking moment to cash out.
2k Ayamy coming back and nobody listened.

Chart comparing daily views from cutoff to cutoff. Using youtube-api due to holopoi being down. These values should be a lower bound unless zhonk scraper voids views.

>>6484249
pissyyomis we are zooming back to ultra shitcoin status

>>6484668
friendly reminder to anons to click the refresh button on that page next to "search", I was about to call it not real but
>isreal

>>6484686
nice timing

>>6484679
what do you mean? They never had the chance to control the market because of the constant dips. They keep overbuying and losing money in the process. Crabbing coins is now the new meta.

>>6484871
>

>>6484926
yeah and they'll just overbuy Haachama to lock her out from Poorfags, genius

>>6484871
so what happens when you sell your 50 Botans as a poorfag you shot during those dips? Richfags still have 500 more so we're back to waiting forever for a dip which never comes. The only way to gain market share anymore is to outdivvie everyone else and buying tips, i.e. precisely what we did before.

so basically we're going back from bitching about the boggening to bitching about inflation
this thread is even dying in 30 posts. Guess I'll put it in the OP or the burgers are going nuclear this afternoon.

>>6484972
I guess I'm going to do my buying Gura strat again

>>6485099
I was going to ask why Gura was inverting, thanks for enlightening me

>>6485099
good call and hurry up because

wait a minute didn't we have an Anon autistically selling EVERYTHING he expected to dip and making mad dosh?

>Ayamy spiking up when she gets less than 200 viewers
I want to get in on this, but it seems like a coin baron scheme that will end with me getting bogged.

>imagine having your auto-trader running all night/day without checking

I wish there's another way to pop market bubbles without causing the whole market to stagnate. It would be boring if everything just inflates forever

come on suiseischizos. Pump Suisei now. I need to cash out

Shorting when

>>6485405
the problem is, the basis on which the market is created is the channels of hololive & friends. Youtube-Interest wise, VTubers ARE in a bubble, normies are waking up to them, pandemic measures are still in effect in many places (including Japan because of the olympics) so you generally have numbers going UP rather than down. People rarely unsubscribe on Youtube. Hololive is a bunch of cross-pollinating channels introducing you to more and more of their cast via collabs. So the basis for the market is UP.
The "Boggening" was an attempt to curb that by tying price changes to viewer count trends, which sounds good on paper and I'll go as far as saying it may be the best thing to do to get SOME market dynamic, but it led to red WEEKS which one has to properly prepare for - that won't work for us dopamine junkies. So people complained.
To summarize, I agree with you. I think this is a mid-step to shut people up until the devs try something else. To clarify, not a dev here, just a humble polkrates lurking.

I wish there was more POLkrates fanart

>>6485689
Great post, but
>cross-pollinating
Hope you never use that reddit term ever again

>>6485689
>The "Boggening" was an attempt to curb that by tying price changes to viewer count trends
price changes were always attached to views though? I feel like I'm missing your point

All I'm understanding is that honk just turned off the bog engine, so everything is just going to inflate again. Buy as much of everything as you can because once again, it will be literally impossible to lose money.
Thanks, I hate it.

>>6485600
It would be a fucking shitshow. I love it. Let's try to imagine the mechanics:
- Trading works as usual, but now you can "sell" coins you have 0 of. For an example let's say you overdo it and sell 20 Kiara first thing because duh, I would.
- Basically, this means you owe the broker $54k
- You'll get majorly fucked if people decide to pump her because you now owe the broker more
Writing this I realize only retards wouldn't understand. What would realistically happen if we short a coin so much its volume goes negative though? Would a short count as -1 coin?

>>6485792
would "synergistic" or "symbiotic" be better for your taste? I don't visit r*ddit, I know the word from my fucking job in 2014 which was some faggy tech-market analysis buzzword shite and I quit in 2015

>>6484249
>we have decided to remove the overbought mechanism from adjustment
BUT HOW WILL I OVERBUY AYAMY TO DROP NOW

BUY AYAMY WHILE IT'S CHEAP

so what Honk is saying is that we're going back to a market that never drops and exponentially increases? Hyperinflation here we go

>>6485857
what did we do last meta again?
Oh, 100k views on senchou, neat, so let's buy a little more. Another 200k! Let's buy even more. No overbuying, it always crabs or moons. Divvies pump liquid into the market, every player-induced dip is bought up, prices rise.
Sure they were always tied to views, but until the boggening we lacked a mechanic to punish a buy. I play this for 3 months now and still have no fucking idea how dips worked.

>>6485971
CHOO CHOO

I started playing less than a month ago. The Boggening allowed me to get into the top 100 and at the top of an oshiboard.. RIP

>>6486100
rip to your chances in getting a lambo

>>6486137
whatever he bought will just moon again, as long as he doesn't sell like a tard the lambo will come faster than you'd expect.
New Players not knowing the former meta better prepare their pink wojaks when they sell $3000 cheaper than the week after.

>>6485689
but is there any other way to make richfags suffer and make the market competitive? Because this would just cement their positions now that they bought out thousands of Pekoras. I'd say just remove the divvy mechanic altogether and encourage daytrading again

>>6486254
well, we're getting into game balance tier discussions here I am not even sure I'm qualified to make, so hear my poorfag opinion:
>Tax the rich
the rich say fuck it and leave, just like IRL. Or they blindly oshicoin and close off their market before they leave. Denjarasu.
>remove divvies
gimps new players even more than old ones, they're there precisely because they act like a safeguard from daytrading going wrong and also encourage buying more than a singular coin, kind of the goal of this game (see info page) to get you into researching and watching holos, lest anyone forgot
>make richfags suffer
would have to be unfair in order to also not fuck with poorfags, that's the problem. Everyone has to be the same before the market, otherwise the market rules become spaghetti, and on the other hand the richfags are rich precisely because they can exploit any situation to their benefit - just like real life, really.
Most of them also have very diverse portfolios (mostly just to increase the speed they can spend money, try spending 20 mil in only Gura if you want to know what I mean) so most kinds of market attacks - shorting, nerfing a coin etc. - would most likely not even make a dent or even work in their favour.
>wait then what the fuck do we do?
What COULD work would be to lure them to bet money, because as proven by the superchat mechanics, they are cooperative in spending their huge wealth on shit which looks fun. Or in other words, they are kind of desperate to spend huge chunks of money at once if it means there's a chance of profit or even an edge against competitors. Right now to make any progress in the top 10 from what I see you need to autistically maximise your divvies while estimating with how many coins you can get away in a good daytrade, just ask cypher or yfp.

Commie-style redistribution of wealth would just poof away in a second if it's one-time because the real asset is not money or coins, but market knowledge and applied autism, and be boring as fuck as something weekly or monthly because it would kill any long-term plays planned.

>>6486604
>What COULD work would be to lure them to bet money
HONK ARCADE

>>6486604
commies get the rope.

Don't oshicoin bros...

>>6486839
suisei?

>>6486858
Rushia

Unless the "overbought" mechanic was behind everybody dropping 80% of their value, it really doesn't matter.

>>6486604
>gimps new players even more than old ones
ehh? Not really. I've been a poorfag daytrader for like 2 months before divvies had been introduced. I got into the top 40 just by pure daytrading autism. And it's been much livelier back then that what we have right now since people were trying to shill a coin to trap onlookers into buying them, not knowing that the other guy has already bought all of the dips and selling coins as the other guy chime in. Sure it might slow down coin growth but it's much better than what we have right now. But that's just my shit opinion. Feel free to disregard my ramblings

>>6486839
>>6486858
you guys too huh. paint em yellow and I could get a sponsorship deal with McDonalds

>>6486872
yeah except thats exactly the reason.

>>6486891
there was a top 40 when the game was in beta? what the fuck? They were already there when I joined on the 8th of april.

>>6486815
the idea some threads ago that one could bet on view-counts or something else sounded good to most people.
"But that's what buying a coin is" - yeah, it all depends on how you implement it, for instance:
- 6 random channels are selected for bets and paired randomly, time: Adjustments
- you bet on either of the channels, the time of fetching the values to compare is let's say the 19th hour.
- rates are determined by total view count (i.e. Miko vs. Marine would be 1,93 to 1)
>or
bet on specific numbers instead of higher/lower, imagine roulette for the tierings
>or
a bigger bet betting on weekly performance, written out every week at divvies time
>or
whatever you can think of, we all know the devs are reading and interested in improving the game in terms of FUN for everyone.

>>6486994
wait, are you just fucking with me or were there actually divvies way back in april? I didnt even notice.

>>6487034
I meant to post this image

>>6487063
kek
I'm positive we had divvies back then, I think they weren't visible or somewhere hidden or something because they only went to the activities tab later on.
there was also a market reset somewhere at the start and I can't really determine when the first divvies where from my values because they were quite shit.

What if honk was trying to trick us into buying everything we can now before doing the final bog ?

>>6487180

>>6487180
I suspect you were trying to make a "don't buy towa" joke here. Sadly you have Towa so it doesn't kick as good as it could. What you can easily do in that case is press F12, inspect element and change the name of the class a bit, just delete some letters from that line
class="[here!]"
I did it to mask my polkas already in this example.

newfriend here. Am actually curious. Do coins drop whenever they underperform or was it a rare occurrence?

>>6487279
I just had enough towa, same for civia.
I also didn't edit the percentage, the price increase, the prices on the side and the time at the bottom.
But thanks for the tips, I'll remember it next time.

>>6486028
if you bought senchou when she had 100k views you would have lost money considering her baseline views without a stream is somewhere around 300k

>>6487475
in the old system it was enough the chuuba so much as breathes to prevent the numbers from falling.

>>6487180
>Everyone drops to double digits
>Except Civvia

>>6487551
>and haato

>>6487114
huh never knew that there were divvies before May. I honestly didn't notice that we had a system like that before. I think the market reset happened at the first week of April. Kind of late to the party since I joined on the 10th.

It would be nice if we actually simulated an actual market though, not just a money printing machine.

>>6484249
>It's real.
Translation: "We decided the market's bogged enough. We will bring this mechanic back at a later date when the market needs mass bogged again, under the pretense that now we can make it work without destroying the market (it will anyway). Thanks!"

>>6487700
>It would be nice if we actually simulated an actual market though, not just a money printing machine.
Well... do you mean REAL real or ancap utopia real? Because no matter how much the devs fuck up they don't get to a hundredth of the FED retardation.

what the fuck did Honk mean by this?

>>6487945
SELL SELL SELL

>>6487700
the game would be boring as fuck though if we had no adjustments/divs unless the devs upped the volatility 100x

>>6487965
yeah but if a holo underperforms, her coin wouldn't adjust down anyway unless if she deleted a couple of videos

>>6486839
Your graph looks alright to me, better than mine for sure.

>>6488360

why are people still selling Irys? Isnt she going to adjust up?

>it already fucking works

>>6488433
They don't have hope.

I'm buying because I like her and I don't get a shit if I get bogged because I've got enough to make a comeback reguardless.

>>6488433
Hopefags more like Copefags

>>6476958

>Poi still dead
so the doomsday soon?

Because the devs changed the game in a way that makes her negative adjustment less likely, I will instead write a report on how the devs enjoy dicks in their ass if IRyS does anything but adjust down.
>Moving goalposts
Well maybe the devs shouldn't literally change the way the game operates to such a significant degree every third day.

>>6489445
Is SB still working? Might just be an issue on poi's end.

>>6489488
It's fine when I read your report I'll just assume when you're talking about the devs you're talking about yourself.
Reguardless it's too early for you to cope like this.

>>6489557
>I'll just assume you're talking about yourself
That's fair.
>It's too early for you to cope like this.
Sorry, I'm running ahead of schedule today.

Fuck up how I don't even watch much holos anymore but I'm still looking at the schedules from jetri

>>6489488
we have this discussion nearly every week. I'll assume you are well aware of that and were just snarky, if that's not the case please consider this wall of fucking text:
unless you akasupa'd honk your masterplan how to make nasfaq enjoyable for everyone, please understand making this game fun is a finding process, and the single source of feedback for their game is THIS VERY FUCKING THREAD which is usually 40% shitposts 40% REEEEEEE and 20% FUD
Criticism is important and nobody will unconditionally suck dev dick here, but
>literally change the way the game operates to such a significant degree every third day
is nothing but a consequence of actually reading the threads and caring. If the solution to the balance problem was obivous, it would've been in the thread already. If changing the whole game to holy grail status X where everything just fucking works just how all of us expect it to work, people losing leaderboard pos would complain about the old system being better.

New Thread is on the way.

NEW THREAD:
>>6489681
>>6489681
>>6489681

>>6489672
>I'll assume you are well aware of that and were just snarky
It's just shitposting.
I've actually already drafted my concession. I still think she'll go down, but I like to have my bases covered.

>>6489290
She's pretty much oversold anyway, unless if honk disabled that feature too

>>6489754
honk never said he brings back exactly what was there before, I think we're all in for a surprise here. Sucks that you already put work in.

>>6489792
I'll save it for a rainy day. It's good pasta material and I get BTFO in these threads all the time because I'm just a retard with a chart.

>>6489855
aren't we alll just retards with a market simulator?