/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6465803
Nigger, go blogpost somewhere else. I ain't reading all that shit.

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6465803
“Real niggas never change” -36Mafia or something

>>6465803
>puts in the most work of anyone
>schizo still calls her lazy because she reschedules streams sometimes

>>6465803
>she hasn't done her JP reps like she promised
I don't follow HoloEN but why do you guys get on her so hard about this? 99.9% of English speakers who attempt to learn Japanese fail. It's incredibly difficult. The only people who make fast progress are neets who spend 10 hours a day reading eroge. Not streamers with a full time job.

>>6465910
This. I get the feeling if she just phoned it in like some of her genmates do some of these faggots would be more satisfied. They want consistent mediocrity as background noise instead of more inconsistent kino.

>>6465912
Becuase she said she wanted to and still claims she wants to despite not doing them. She has Japanese fans and senpais that she could ask to help her. If she has given up she should say she has given up.

>>6465803
Worst of all is she didn't play enough gwent

>>6465803
She was hired for her extensive experience at being the performer that she was at joining. She hasn't changed because she doesn't need to change.

OP, did you forget to watch her streams after her debut stream again?

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6465803
Learn to format your shit, you subhuman.

There's been some noticeable hate for Ame here as of late.

>>6466247
girls like it when you bully them

>>6465803
Don't shitpost with my bruised holo edit.

>>6465803
>Hasn't done her JP resp like she promised
She probably figured out that it wasn't worth that much time and effort to learn a useless language. Japanese is regarded as one of the hardest to learn, and it gains you fuck all once you learn it.

>>6465803

>>6465803
Based
I still can't forgive her for considering going into creative mode in the server. Like, what, cheating with creative mode isn't a big deal? It's just a block game? Please, don't get me started.
You guys have no fucking idea what your're talking about. But I do.

I was playing Infiniminer before Minecraft existed.
I played Minecraft in the browser version of their website back in 2009. I bought it the first day of Alpha in 2010 and created a server when there was no mobs and dropping your tools would repair them. I've played every day for 10 years. I have 8 different game folders for the differents specific modded versions. I was part of the bukkit project and followed its fall.
I've used every relevant mod and RLcraft is like baby play. I can speedrun while using Nocubes mod.
Did I say speedruns? Yeah, I know all the different routes for each major version and follow the scene everyday. Yes that include the door-jump golem trick and the garfield speedrun.
I went to every single Minecon and talked to Jeb. I've comforted Notch on twitter when he vented his loneliness.
I use the most advanced building tools, know every single worldedit command by heart and can generate perlin noise terrain in a few seconds. I have a note of more than 300 different brush patterns for it. I've used every single setting of schematica/litematica included the non-transparency one.
I've built every single farm possible in survival on multiple different servers and an optimized 256 villagers city mall automatically fed by a breeder. I've turned a friendly server into a capitalist economy run one with emerald prices for every service, banks & loans with interest.
I've bet every notable minecraft server out there, I run bots on 2b2t and I'm prestige 4 Shaman on Hypixel Mega walls. I've composed minecraft musics for years and got multiple songs in Hypixel games on top of being among their noteblock contest winners.
There isn't a major Minecraft youtuber I'm not following, I wrote a script that use the Youtube API to get audio transcription text and run a semantic algorithm to get the most recurring topics and feed the most relevant parts to text-to-speech so I can learn it all while I sleep.

The fact Ame even considered going creative on a survival server is a disgrace and an insult to the game and its fans. She's willing to ruin the server for everyone just because doesn't understand the game.
If you're not serious about a game just don't fucking play it and stop half-assing everything. Just like your whole vtubing career, Amelia.

>>6465910
>Puts in most work of anyone
Kek
>>6466807
Idk if learning language of the company she works for or the language that most of her coworker speak is really considered a waste

>>6465803
What still bum me the most is that she didn't have a birt accent. That's ALL I needed for this design, it wasn't asking much. Why wasn't she a brit. I'm so mad.

>>6466247
They realized that the Chumbud boogyman posting wasn't fooling most people so they moved on to something else.

>>6465803
It this the same schizo who was ranting about Kiara everyday? Has he moved onto Ame now?
Anyway, Ame doesn't NEED to change. She's cute, funny, generous, and sincere.

>>6466079
Her Japanese senpais have full-time jobs too, anon. And trusting a fan with that kind of power? Absolutely retarded.

>>6467678
If Ame was cute and funny she would have more subs trust me cunny always wins.

>>6465912
>full time job
>Streams 2-3 hours a day, sometimes taking a couple of days off
KEK

>>6465803
She dropped Nier. Nier. I was having a good time watching her play my favorite game and looking at Nier themed fan art of Ame, but when she dropped it, my heart dropped too. I can't shake off the feelings when she streams other games or does anything now. Lazy bitch.

>>6467762
I'll never say streaming is an easy job but it really does make me laugh out loud every single time someone says this it's got to be one of the most retarded things anybody can possibly say.

Go back to your cow farm and discord, you fucking tranny. No one hates Ame here

>>6466247
Schizos realized their tired Kiara/Mori shitposting doesn't get any traction anymore, so they're trying out the rest of EN for size ever since Coco graduated.

>>6465803
>Gura anti threads slow down
>Ame ones start
Rate how tiresome it all is

>>6467429
you good anon?

Do chumkeks really?

>>6467823
good, nier sucks

>>6467870
Sorry my full energy is taken by one anti thread I can't do both at once.

>>6467870
as long as there are good things in the world there will be twice as many people trying to shit on it with a "holier-than-thou" attitude who cant stand the idea of people enjoying themselves without pissing themselves

>>6467823
my sides. making fun of these retards is always great entertainment. probably a lot more fun than watching the vtubers themselves.

I have never anti posted about any of the other ENs, I like Kiara and I am indifferent to Gura. I only have a problem with Amelia, not with any of the other holos.

>>6467909
Chumbud boogyman

>>6468169
Hate it all you like, but don't lie to yourself about it. It's probably not that they "cant stand the idea of people enjoying themselves without pissing themselves", it's just funny to them.

>>6468265
Based?

>>6467823
Why did she drop Nier?

>>6467823
Bier Automata is a garbage game (narratively) with serviceable but boring game play. If you think nier automata has a good story, you're an idiot

Who cares about jp reps. EN is the future. That's why irys gots the EN name not the main branch

>>6468383
She says she would enjoy it/appreciate it more playing on her own than streaming it for an audience

>>6468402
Ow the edge

>>6465803
Imagine spending about 5 mins of your life writing this shit out. You could be hoarding roommate pictures. Like me.

>>6468265
>I like Kiara and I am indifferent to Gura
>I only have a problem with Amelia
The falseflagging is way too obvious, bud. Get better material. But here's the (You) your smoothbrain so desires.

>>6467870
Why are we still here to suffer/10

>>6468402
I play it for the music. It's a masterpiece.

>>6465803
>he made another thread
Pathetic

>>6468592
Given how smooth his brain is, it probably took this tranny at least a full day to write this shit down.

>>6467762
>>6467840
You don't know what goes on behind the scenes

Amelia used to be so good. It was kino GFE without trying, she just felt like a normal person sitting down playing games. No hype, no obnoxious loudness she didn't feel overly invested in trying to be entertaining but she wasn't boring either. And when things start going well for her, you could feel how genuinely grateful she was for the life changing opportunity she got. 9 hour new years stream? 7 hour Supa Sundays every week.

All her recent content just feels like a flanderized version of what she thinks people like about her. High pitched fake voice that she didn't used to make, forced "gremlin" noises every 5 seconds, "chat tell me what to do" "shut up no backseating" while barely thinking about the game. Amelia was the only holo I'd actually plan to watch full streams for. Now I can't get 15 minutes into a vod without cringing and closing it

>>6468884
This is the first thread i've made on this board, I have posted similar complaints in the /hlgg/ thread.
>>6468655
I am not KFP, I am a teamate who is currently losing faith in Ame

>>6469239
t.chumbud

>>6469239
No one's buying the act, dipshit. Kill yourself.

>enjoy 6 hours of Ame streams today
>schizo spends the same amount of time seething and replying to himself in his thread because he's too much of a pussy to show up in global anymore

>>6469312
Chumbud boogyman

>>6469219
Honestly gonna have to agree her Oblivion streams are the only ones I really like anymore.

Favorite old school Ame stream
https://youtu.be/Pak5J1sk6fc

>>6467870
why are they all so low effort?

>>6467865
Why haven't they gone after Ina?

So we're starting the >we hate Ame arc now? First it was Kiara, then Ollie, then Mori (though Kiara's never really went away).

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6469735
>implying people watch Ina

>>6465803
>the lazy girl with no skills and a horrible lifestyle
Exactly. She's literally me. And that's why I love her.

>>6469219
>GFE
Never was, you're just delusional
>Fake voice
Changed the mic
>Barely thinking about the games she play
Sure thing, that's why she included Minecraft in her streams three times this week
Verdict: keep trying, schizo #1

>>6465803
I haven't watched Ame in half a year and just recently checked out her Alyx streams and they were god tier. The fact that she prepared a custom 3D model (as simple as it is) for VR streams is creative and it could influence other vtubers to do the same in the future. I don't see the problem with her, OP.

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6469735
because she's literally flawless

>>6470016
>Never was, you're just delusional
Not him but she had a date stream month 1, you're the delusional one if you don't think she's GFE

>>6469735
i have a feeling she will be next week's victim

>>6467870
Need more anti-Aqua threads. I do not hate ENs enough to give them my anti energy.

>>6465803
>All of the other ENs have evolved and grown throughout their 10 month journey
Okay Kiara.
You're still as shit as you were at the start.

>>6469319
everyone in global got immunized to his shit

>>6470618
>anti-Aqua
that's like bullying the kid with downs

>>6465803
>Expecting that a Western whore would improve anything or take criticism

How naive can you be? Out of ENs only Kiara shows improvement and that's because she had more contact with the JP side to begin with also more haters but the rest doesn't have much of a reason to change and give their best when they were showered with support from the start and didn't really had to fight for their popularity.

>>6467870
We're in hell

>>6469735
takodachis are as calm and discerning as their oshi. there's nothing to rile up.

>>6470016
I said she was gfe WITHOUT TRYING. Basically I mean her content felt more genuine and reminded of spending nights listening to my gf talking randomly about her day.

And I don't buy the new mic cope. Her voice sounds like 2 balloons rubbing these days.

Don't even know what ur saying with that minecraft comment.

>>6467429
choke on a dick, dream stan

>>6467870
The ride never ends, i'm afraid...

>>6470943
I hate dream tho, everyone keep saying his fucking ame every time minecraft speedrunning is brought up even tho he's a hack and a fraud. I watch no-mic top players with 50 viewers instead.

>>6470837
>Out of ENs only Kiara shows improvement
Ina, Mori and Gura didn't need to improve, they had already worked hard and spent the previous years improving, I'm not saying they are perfect but theres a huge difference between Ina/Mori and Amelia. In fact all of the other ENs have proved they can be successful without the hololive name.Amelia was a lazy 2view before and lucked out by being friends with the shark. Any normal person would thank god for this lifechanging opportunity and Ame did at the start before realising she could put in the same amount of effort as before (none) and get more than enough money. While these posts are attacking Amelia they are also attacking teamates since they allow and promote this behaviour.

>>6465912
>It's incredibly difficult
Not even remotely. Japanese being hard to learn is a meme to scare off unmotivated EOPs like (you)

>>6471247
good one
>ok it's the hardest but still easy
no, if everything is easy then nothing is
Learning Japanese is very difficult.

>>6471359
>Learning Japanese is difficult because .. well look at this chart that says it’s difficult!
I’ve seen Arabic grouped together with Japanese when people discuss languages that they struggle to learn and I can speak both nearly fluently. Just stop wasting time here and delete meme charts from your hard drive so you don’t have a lame excuse to not do your reps

>>6471359
The real hardest language to learn is the one you don't bother learning because you're too busy bitching about it.

>>6471359
Japanese is hard, but it's obviously harder if you dont even try. If you dedicate a couple of hours a day, its not THAT hard.

>>6471674
>>6471359
Now write all that in Japanese. The rest of poster here will judge.

>>6465803
>becomes irrelevant
already is

>>6471166
What is this obsession with "improvement"? There are vtubers who have been streaming for 2-3 years and have barely changed at all. I know this is an """idol""" company but you should curb your expectations and not expect everyone to evolve into something else. Ame is fine as she is, she's still entertaining and fun, and that's alright.

Also sometimes vtubers change for the worse anyway, like Subaru in the past year.

>>6471886
Amelia works for a japanese company with a lot of japanese coworkers and has a lot of japanese fans, she also works 2-3 hours a day 4-5 days a week. If she spent 15-30 minutes a day doing her reps she would be able to have decent collabs with the JPs by now but instead we get a 60 minute long stupid noise compilation.

>>6472002
I'm not up to date with subaru. What has changed for the worse?

>>6465803
Can't sing, can't dance. Not creative or intelligent.
A real stinker of a chuuba!

>>6471359
Japanese is easier to learn than most languages simply because of the sheer amount of media japan has, and the sheer amount of resources there are to study that media, sure it is hard but it's way easier to get into than other languages, good look learning french and having to watch fucking french media

>>6472002
>What is this obsession with "improvement"?
it's a /pol/ meme

>>6472135
She went from being a normie curious about otaku culture to being an actual otaku, whether you think that's bad is up to you

>>6472002
When she debuted she was talking about how she left food in the fridge for so long it rotted and instead of cleaning the container she just threw it out, how she barely showered or left her house. She acted like she wanted to get her act together but never went through with it. When I talk about improvement I mean she says that she want to improve and then doesn't, she does things that people criticise her for and then either ignores them or acts like they are in the wrong. If she wanted to be a smelly neet vtuber eating using paper cutlery she should just admit that instead of pretending she wants to improve her situation before giving up as soon as gets difficult with the full support of her "fans".

>>6465803
Shut up, Gura. Amelia is doing better without you.

>>6469735
There's a takofag mod here that bans people for shitting on her. Any thread talking about her not drawing Coco gets instantly deleted. Meanwhile there's 5 Kiara threads at all times

>>6467429
Schizo threads are worth it for the chuckles I get out of shit like this.

>>6465803
>got her own 3d model when cover told her no
>set up her own VR rig when cover told her no
>but she's lazy guiiiiiise
You're pathetic.

>>6469735
I swear you guys have the memory of goldfish. They DID go after Ina, trying to craft a rrat out of her not drawing Coco.

>>6467429
Is this a fucking copypasta I dont know about?

>>6470837
you will never be japanese

>>6473229
She always goes the extra mile when it comes to stream technology and innovation. Which is why this thread is hilarious to me.

>>6473229
>given a 3d model by fans
>fans rigged it for her
>but she's so hard-working
pathetic

Pic related is what the japanese think about her.

Stuff Ame did for Hololive so far:
StreamElements implementation for SC reading and other things - all ENs are using now, SC jars - Ina and Mori using, JP soon probably; credits with name of SCers and members, the outfit reveal which was an explosive success on how she applied the idea of Youtube plays Pokemon to an outfit, popularizing hands/feet props for a crazy amount of vtubers, Milestones during the streams, official clippers with salary, using OBS at full capability to do fun stuff (Kiara started doing the same thanks to her), opening up the possibility of charity streams, etc.
What matters is the effort and how you apply the idea to your situation, making hololive a better place.

>>6473229
All she did was make a tweet asking for everyone else to find out the original creator of the model, she didn't find him herself nor did she go out of her to ask someone to make one or make one herself.

>>6473664
>Watchama has too much technical power for hololive, slow down so others look bad
Ouch, seems like they're calling out JP holos that never do anything interesting, its always the same shit with a few exceptions.

>>6473437
Ah, yes anon.
Tell your typical holo to do this 3DVR setup by themselves which has better tracking than Cover's studio.

>>6473664

>>6473664
Like I give a fuck what slants think.
Her "ideas" were all stolen from fans. Get a grip, nerd.

>>6473664
antis absolutely blown the fuck out of the water

>>6473904
Gonna cry?
Get fucked hahahahahaha

>>6473904
Awwwwwwww cute cute cute cute!!!
Anti-chan kawaiiiii

>>6473904
Wow, she actually listens to fans and fosters a community to do good things? The horror!

>>6474053
>listens to fans and fosters a community
weasel words for "she doesn't do shit"
Amelia has invented nothing. The fake legs, 3d rig, and costume reveal were fan ideas she stole and implemented. She certainly didn't invent charity streams or any of her high octane superchat originals.
Your chuuba is brown bread with a side of cow shit. Accept it and move on.

Ame numbers

>>6473664
They're right. I'm a lapsed Ame viewer and only catch her very occasionally, but she's got loads of great ideas that become influential.

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6473664
The only relevant things in that list are the outfit reveal (I don't have anything negative to say about that, it was an example of the great potential Amelia has) and the 3D stream.
The clippers have been talked about for multiple months now and I don't see how they will be any different from the normal clippers we have now. Props had been used by the JPs long before Amelia put her legs on the table. She didn't create most of that stuff, she just informed other holos that they exist. Her OBS skills and her outfit reveal are good, nobody will deny that, but the costume reveal was 2 months ago, and the first half life episode was 1 month ago. It isn't enough to come up with a good idea once a month and spend the remaining 29 days putting in the bare minimum while having no other obligations. Ina and Mori have their own careers, Kiara releases a huge amount of originals. Ame has no second job, she isn't releasing any originals. She has to work 10 hours a week (if that) and she still constantly finds excuses to bring it even lower.

>>6473249
It is, but I'm the one initially wrote it back in /jp/ hlgg days, for what it's worth, when Ame made a member poll to ask if she could use creative.

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6473437

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6469219
There are some valid points in here, but you're blowing it out of proportion.

>>6469735
She plays it so safe (arguably stale) it's hard to make an elaborate schizo post about her without trying too hard.

>>6465839
the post that destroyed schizos

>>6469735
The dramafags go after Kiara because she showed weakness in the first week, Gura is a target because she has big numbers (more (you)s), Mori is a target because she went on TT and has a "way with words". They don't go after Amelia because dramafags are teamates and they don't go after Ina because she doesn't do anything that can be misinterpreted as a yab.The only things she did was make Kiara and Amelia play majong and not draw Coco. The majong collab was long ago and Mori took the heat because "she ruined another collab" forgetting Gura also cancelled of course (as the posters of /vt/ tend to do) and despite a decent number of threads they couldn't get the Coco rrat to take off (I believe she purposely didn't draw her due to her connections with Chinese gacha but I don't hate her for this, it is a bit disappointing though)

>>6465803
Take your meds

>>6466247
probably just one person making the same ame hate threads over and over

>Ame
Not my favorite but few notable things
- Tard wrangled her horrendous chat into something manageable, went from having a rather shaky relationship to a very close one with her members
- Stemming from the above point, pretty strong community engagement (maybe too much sometimes)
- Her ability to conduct zatsudan without a plan or medium to carry the flow of discussion (e.g. superchats or Q&A) noticeably improved from December onward
- Has kept up a continued habit of adding some creative flare to her regular streams, especially as of late.
>Knowing when and how to use things that were used before on other platforms, and most importantly knowing how to apply them properly to your situation is an important skill. She's basically getting Hololive out of the stone age in some aspects. Someone gotta do it.

>>6466247
The Ame honeymoon is wearing off.
>>6475004
This is the first Ame thread I have made

>>6475004
I honestly agree with most of his points so I'm glad he's posting all of this instead of me

>>6475313
>first Ame thread
thats what an ame anti would say

>>6475313
>This is the first Ame thread I have made
Not counting the 100 other Ame threads posted by your multiple personalities

>>6475448
He's lying anyway, I'm the OP of this thread

>>6474167
Compared to some JP holos that took the easy route of just streaming games and singing sometimes, she's doing things that no one in hololive dared before. That alone puts her in a better position than a lot of them
No one is gonna reinvent the wheel anymore. Its how about how you adapt and bring new things to your enviroment.

>>6474345
>10 hours a week
Anon.....
Yesterday she streamed 7 hours.
Today she streamed 6 hours.
Are you bad at math? In 2 days you're already wrong.

>>6472060
You really want her saying 'naruhodo ne' 'sou ne' 'sasuga' every response like someone else in holoEN?

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6475004
>probably just one person making the same ame hate threads
I think many criticisms of Ame are valid. But it was harder to criticize her in the past. It was a building up over time, methinks. It has exploded.

>>6475275
>Tard wrangled her horrendous chat into something manageable
That is what I hate about her.

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6476366
If something so minor makes you hate someone, you really need to touch some grass.
Her chat in 2020 was hell, lots of retards like Gura's chat. The quality now is much higher. You can just compare the retarded SC messages that Gura and Mori gets compared to Ame, which are almost all pretty normal, reasonable with very few exceptions.
Not to mention she implemented Nightbot with a lot of filters to fuck retard spammers in the ass, people that spammed Connor, trash talk, "go to sleep" etc, all got timed out when she started with that.
Managing your chat instead of letting it run wild is an important skill for a vtuber.

>>6466247
Ame antis have been trying so fucking hard for months to find a YAB or anything they can latch onto.
All they can surmise is muh no skills and reschedule.

Uuuh... Is this Ame anti thread? Or appreciation thread? Why there're more good things about her listed here?

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6476724
I am not like the Kiara antis who post out of content clips, doxxpost, spam ME ME ME. Like me, most of the Amelia "antis" see her potential and are just upset she is lazy and continues to not deliver on her promises. This is really only the anti thread if you compare it to the average yesman teamate.

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6476724
>Is this Ame anti thread? Or appreciation thread?
yes

>>6476910
Then you should know how to differentiate between a promise & a maybe.
>she is lazy
Anon, she is working for 500+ clippers submission, 20+ new game permissions, supporting her genmates technically & emotionally on the background, delivers streams more than almost everyone else, multiple cover songs, all while still the backbone of holo creativity.
Take your meds before complaining.

>>6473664
>official clippers with salary
Wait, really? I stopped watching her a little while ago. How does it work?

Between June 12 (after E3) and early July, she had a bad month, 11 streams and with a disastrous sleep schedule, some of them with low energy. Adding the AX event and 2 collabs (which drain her energy and her autism). And it's also worth mentioning that in this bad streak she did the mythical 3DVR stream.

But since July I can tell you that she is back. 16 streams in 10 days and 5 of them in a span of 30 hours. You can really tell when she's in the mood and has slept well. Entertaining streams, another 3DVR, the best karaoke she did to date, wonderful ukulele practice and since yesterday, lots of motivation with Minecraft (plus fun mario 64 streams).

I don't know anon, other girls hopefully do 5-6 streams a week about mainstream games and repeat the same formula. Amelia even half dead from self-induced insomnia, is able to do 11 streams in that state and innovate a bit. She always promises more than she can do, and talks more about future projects when even she doesn't know if she can get them. But if you ask me, I prefer that to someone who doesn't propose greedy things and is comfortable in her success (which, by the way, is completely reasonable). Sometimes she tends to get carried away with her own mind and then has to live with her promises. If you want to criticize that, well, it's valid, really.
I love that she's so passionate about it, I don't know. (no excuses on JP reps though).

I feel like she does so much and is so good that people compare her to their own successes and get disappointed. But this is so subjective I'd rather leave it unsaid above. .

>>6477913
And yes, i bite, but i kinda wanted to say those things. Whatever

Been a while since I saw a retarded schizo flail this hard. Good job.

>>6477420
Still unsure because it's a new thing in holo. But if it's the same as Nyanner, then it is basically a hired video editor to create short highlights for her channel.

>>6477913
Looking at it that way, it appears Coco's graduation definitely had a pretty heavy effect on Ame's mental (completely a rrat, I have no idea what Ame's thought process is).

>>6478520
Coco & Haachama. But that week is also her planned "light" week, so it is nothing unusual. She still streamed more than most holo, but still.

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6466247
It's just a shift. Everything changed when the planned, as expected of that conniving woman graduation of Coco happened, have you noticed the hate for Kiara noticeably declining as if magic? Think about it, bro, think about it.

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6465839
fpbp also OP BTFO

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6465910
this, her work ethic is actually pretty nuts and 100% better than the lazy bastards that frequent this board

A reminder that Ame refused paid sponsorship deals & instead, she shills the games for free & for more permission so all her coworkers can play them.

>>6471674
Japanese is easy until Japanese start speaking in minimal sentence fragments because YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO READ THE AIR WHITTU PIGGU to distract you while kanji sneaks up behind you and rapes your asshole. Arabic is not that hard. Not as easy as a European language for an EOP, but not bad.

>>6473664
>Pic related is what the japanese think about her.
>Half the comments are about molesting children

>>6486464
It was her 3DVR stream with chibi avatar and 5ch is basically a mirror from here.

wtf i love watson now

>>6467429
calm yur shit down fubuki. why does friend gotta be this hard. just because every other holo can't even take down endermen doesn't mean you should bully!

>>6467623
she tried had a whole accent arc it's exhausting to talk in a non native accent all the time.

>>6467429
This man is insane but he's still right.
I don't even fucking play Minecraft and I can still see how shitty Ame's idea was. Imagine literally using CHEAT CODES to LITERALLY REMOVE THE GAME'S MAIN CONTENT on a server YOU SHARE WITH OTHER PEOPLE.

>>6466279
Ame please, rape/abuse fantasies aren't thaaat common

>>6467762
>Streams 2-3 hours a day
Mate, it's almost like this is a corporation and there is always shit going on in the back none of us have any idea of.
They don't have the privilege of these uncontracted streamers who can just sit back and relax whenever they want to.
They have actual employers who give them orders. Just because you don't see it happen on stream doesn't mean nothing is going on outside the streams.

>>6465803
I don't really watch holoen but her music listening stream was pretty fucking great.

>>6465839
based

>>6466247
i know every bit of criticism towards a chuuba is considered baseless hate and antiness, and any concern for their mental wellbeing is considered concerntrolling etc, but i genuinely think people are growing a bit tired of her lack of care for her fanbase. in the beginning people were cool with it and even played it off as her being a dominatrix almost, but i think people are starting to realize that she just genuinely doesn't give a fuck about her viewers at all. it becomes clearer with each week that passes by. her content also hasn't been very good compared to what it used to be. yes, we do get kino streams every now and then like the bus driving simulator, but in most streams she has a negative vibe, is tired, has a headache and you can clearly tell she doesn't want to be there and is just doing it out of obligation. she's showing symptoms of depression.

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6486163
No she didn't. Cover makes them do those and if she didn't do another sponsor that the other girls did it's because Cover doesn't believe in her ability to sell a product.

>>6465803
So we hate Ame now?

>>6489361
No, J-chad asked her if she wants to do more sponsored streams, Ame said no.

>>6482553
> the hate for Kiara noticeably declining as if magic
Literally there are like 4 different Kiara hate threads on catalog right now, and let's not forget jannies had to clean up the daily Kiara twitter threads, and two seperate threads made whenever Kiara appeared on the other girls' Minecraft stream.

>>6489409
Right so Gura does sponsored streams that make her physically ill from stress every single time she does them because she wants to do them and isn't being told she has to. Ame is the sole acception in the entire company to the sponsors.
Also her manager isn't j-chad your retarded faggot she has the dogshit manager genma just like Gura and Kiara who have all complained about how shit shit is multiple times.

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6476724
so many Nabis..

>>6465839
Fpbp, get fucked OP

>>6489461
J-chad also works for sponsored streams, just like Jenma also works for game permissions, including Mori's.
J-chad even praised Ame for her viewer retentions ability during her creative streams.

I'm tired of teamates pretending Ame is some perfect woman that can do no wrong when she's probably guilty of much worse than any of her genmates.

Seriously, answer me this. If Ame can time travel, then she has a moral obligation to kill Hitler and prevent the mass slaughter of 6 million Jews. Yet she hasn't done that. I can open a textbook right now and still see Hitler's face.

I don't know why no one talks about this but I guess it IS /ameg/ so I shouldn't expect teamates to ever speak poorly about their oshi.

I love Ame

>Guaranteed replies

>>6489548
Meds

>>6489575
You'll love Ame.

>>6489572
If Ame can time travel why does she have such bad time management? Cant she just travel back a couple hours and get more sleep? Why does she need to cancel a stream if she can just sleep through it than travel back in time when she's well rested?

Just chatting variety IRL twitch streamer got accepted in hololive

This Watson fella ain't too bad

>>6490518
Because she's a time traveler, not a time looper. Changing the past only creates another timeline, one where she is late & one where she is on time.

>>6489572
Anon, you know Kiara IS her genmate right?

>>6489572
>/ameg/
No, this is /ameb/

>>6471247
Learning to speak japanese is pretty easy. Learning to read and write it is very hard

>>6465803
>>6467429

this board makes me fear for the future of humanity

>>6476724
>Olliemelia
I actually kinda like it.

>>6491220
Multiple timelines don't exist stop believing the governments lies.

>>6465839
fpbp

op too busy choking on dicks instead of watching streams.

>>6488640
>this is a corporation and there is always shit going on in the back none of us have any idea of
Don't give a fuck. Entertainment or jump off a bridge, I don't care. Shit goes on behind the scenes at any company.

>>6489572
>prevent the mass slaughter of 6 million Jews.
Why the fuck would you want to do that?

OP is mad he won't be featured on the bug review.

>>6465803
what is it about plebbitors that riles them up about rrats?
they get really angry and pissed off if you slightly stray from "approved thought".
why is that? why do they get so angry when they cant control people's opinion?
very interesting

>>6475275
Hey, I remember writing this, sans the last point. Good last point though.
I think even a lot of teamates have got some goldfish memory when it comes to how much Ame has improved on a fundamental level, looking at a few posts that talk about how she never needed to change. Remember her superchat readings between pre-bubb4bot and even through most of November, as a random example? They ranged from unremarkable to terrible -- none of the fun tangents, chat interaction, or playful fun like pic related that people enjoy now.

>>6493371
I only started watching supa sundays when the plug.dj session happened, before that I never even saw the thread discuss them, so you have a point.

>>6493488
Before plug/bubb4 she didn't do supa sunday, or specific supa read streams in general, she just went through them after the streams.
The first time she did a supa read stream was the plug one, and ever since then it was weekly (and had switched to bubb4).

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6475275
>>6475549
>>6477913
They just ignore these posts about how even non-teammates realize how Ame improved over time and how it continues to create quality content. Even some of those posts criticize Amelia on some things. OP and company could at least put some effort into making it LOOK like they watch streams, kek. They have to rely on "b-b-but she make noises" to criticize something. If they at least watched some Amelia's streams, they could criticize many other things, and rightly so, but they rely on stupidities to make these anti-threads that, to top it off, become appreciation threads due to the little effort they put into them.

Also...
>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6472170
Yeah you’re right it’s not like France has produced decades of high quality french language cinema. They barely have any literature to speak of.

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6465839
First post BASED post

>>6475275
>went from having a rather shaky relationship to a very close one with her members
Day 1 Investigator here maybe my memory is failing but I always thought she treated her members pretty well compared to the grey names

>>6499843
Poor wording on my part when I came up with that.
The point is twofold and I kind of mashed them together: she used to have a shaky relationship with her chat as a whole which she mostly no longer does, and she has also grown really close to her members over time (community posts, way more open in her member streams over time, involving them more in her content e.g. song writing, member feedback war, script writing).

>>6476593
>minor
That’s your opinion. I think censorship of chat is a horrible thing to do, often done by over-sensitive people. People who cannot handle criticism, usually do such.
>Her chat in 2020 was hell, lots of retards like Gura's chat. The quality now is much higher.
It seems like many people who dislike Gura (or her viewers) are from Ame’s viewers, who seem to love censorship. What you consider “hell” is just normal chat to me. To me the real “hell” is strong censorship. Therefore, I’m glad Ame is doing badly for a Holo EN. It’s like karma.

>>6500177
>doing badly for a holo
>1.3M in 9 months, 10K+ members
roru
rumao

>>6465839
fpbp

Am I the only one who noticed that Ame viewers tend to hate Gura the most? I think it was caused by Ame intentionally viewing Gura as competition. That she deliberately separated herself from Gura, and made her chat understand that she wanted separation. So ultimately Ame viewers picked a “side “.

>>6500330
I love Gura and you need to take your meds.

>>6500177
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyl1z3jo3XHR1riLFKG5UAg there you go buddy. Watch some streams from time to time to avoid looking like an oxygen-starved retard.

>>6500330
Your meds, sirchama.

>>6500251
Badly for Holo EN, yes. Not for Holo in general. Amd live viewers are amoung the lowest for Holo EN. She is on decline: >>6474189

>>6500330
Here you go samefag shitposter, eat it up
https://poal.me/i24tz4

>>6500383
>Watch some streams
I did. I think they’re mostly crap. You also didn’t address what I said at all.
>>6500385
Not an argument.

>>6500402
>>6500468
Her live viewers median is literally higher than Mori's and thats with her doong public watchalongs all the time.
You can check for yourself on playboard

>>6500590
Wow blown the fuck out

>>6500590
Even from your chart, the “Highest viewers” go to Mori.

>>6500686
Average viewers is what you're looking for.

>>6500724
No it’s not. The average is almost the same, while the highest is a big difference. That doesn’t amount to overall better. Then you have to take in effect, total subs, VOD views, SC, biggest uploads, etc.

>>6500833
Cope, you little baby.
Your argument is she got bad viewer average.
Its higher than Mori's and Mori has 200K more subs than her.
No amount of crying and pissing your pants will change that.

>>6500590
Didn't know that. That's kinda embarrassing for Mori I gotta say. She got way more subs.

>>6500686
Avg viewers x streaming hours is what you looking for.

>>6500686
Anon are you illiterate?

>>6500898
>Your argument is she got bad viewer average.
No, it was that she is “doing badly for a Holo EN”. Go back and check for yourself.

>>6500973
I'm gonna fuck your cunny illiterate-chama
T o T

>>6501046
That’s one example of “badly.” Success for Holo EN relates to live views, VOD views, subscriber numbers, superchat numbers, biggest uploads, etc.

Its pretty funny how teamates turn these Ame anti threads into Ame appreciation threads lol

>>6501106
That's not how you use "and", ESLchama.

>>6501111
In my opinion, they cannot handle any criticism. It’s amusing.

>>6501169
They handle it with actual arguments and make antis feel embarrassed, pretty amusing

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6501198
If someone says Ame cannot sing, how do you make an argument against that? By pretending she can, or saying that she has “soul”? Curious.

>>6501247

>>6501247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re6OGXN_DDI
By saying I don't give a fuck & so does she, nowadays.

>>6501282
Kek
Based

>>6471674
I do my reps, don't do them consistently though they get done. Saying that Japanese isn't difficult however is just a half-truth at best. If you can get a Japanese pal or tutor spoken Japanese is easy, written Japanese is difficult (See two separate syllabaries, hundred+ particles and Chinese characters), and writing is the hardest (Bring syntax together for all of the above.)

>>6501282
Considering that both Gura and IRyS sing better than Ame, I’m not sure of the point being made? That you are glad Ame sucks? Interesting.

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6501334
>I don't give a fuck
If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t be replying to me.

>>6501376
I don't project myself into anime girls like a tranny.
My oshi has fun during karaoke and thats what matters.

>>6501376
Yes.
it's more about having fun, like an actual karaoke with friends
But Yes.

>>6501419
>it’s okay to suck at singing
Right, but does it resemble talent for Hololive? I don’t think so. What is her talent anyway?

>>6501376
That her attraction lies somewhere else.
>>6501416
I do give a fuck about someone that stupid enough to think teamates care about Ame's singing ability, however.

>>6501495
Just one info, Noel Karaoke got like 19k live views when Flare got 11k. That's the truth about this world. SOVL prevail.

>>6501514
>That her attraction lies somewhere else
What is her talent?

>>6501495
Same as Coco, Noel, Haachama, or Miko.

>>6501585
Streaming.

>>6501585
A combination of thinking outside the box & the technical ability to bring that idea on stream.

>>6501587
Even in your first example, Coco can speak English (not just Japanese), provided a bridge between EN and JP, and was ultimately more successful overall. So?
>>6501626
>Ame can stream, which is talent.
Okay…

>>6501585
You're an actual anti? i mean, you're trying so much to receive appreciation posts that make me think that you're a big brain Teamate.
The answer is passion btw, soul when she streams. And her creativity. Alongside a beautiful personality. Cmon keep the bait, i love to praise ame

>>6501691
how can't streaming be talent when singing and drawing can?

>>6501691
Coco got famous from Asacoco which almost all Japanese for Japanese.

Some anons getting pissy at Ame getting called creative is amusing, especially #1, all it takes is one falseflag teamate post that says shes the most creative one to neglect her talent of being entertaining in many different interesting ways all together.
You can't even bring up the fact that she had a fun unusual and unique for Hololive stream without them coming out.

I really can't imagine this being anyone other than a jealous tranny seething no one cares about him, the alternative would just be too hilarious.

>>6501862
Even the holos themselves acknowledged Ame unprompted so it's not a lipservice. She earned it.

>>6501707
>You're an actual anti?
Neutral. Not really for or against. Just wanted to play around a bit after seeing how easily upset people became over a single criticism. It made me curious.
>her talent is passion
Not really a talent.
>soul
That can be too vague. Can mean almost anything.
>creativity
I guess?
>personality
Very subjective. Also not sure how a personality equals talent.

>>6501964
If you never noticed the passion behind a good streamer, you haven't lived much on the internet anon. It's very noticeable to me when someone doesn't feel like streaming and streams anyway (something I noticed very few times in Ame, when she has a severe lack of sleep). And that's something I usually notice in other streamers. No one is 100% passionate all the time, but you can tell when they like it, and it seems like ame's normal state is to love what she does, which makes me love her.

>>6500330
You are 100% correct but Teamates are a lot like those people here who pretend they aren't number fags.

>>6501964
Yes, stubbornness is a talent, so does the courage to sing badly & just having fun in front of more than 20k.
>how easily upset people became over a single criticism.
Kek. here's your totally upset (you) for the day, anon, look at all the people seething at saying good things for their favorite girl.

>>6465839
Fpbp

>>6502098
The only passion I noticed is the passion of her fans, which I guess you can take as a compliment.
>>6502273
>stubbornness is a talent
I disagree.

>>6502329
And I stubbornly disagree, considering she created new OP/ED just for one stream, in less than five minutes.

>>6502474
This.
Even more than that. She came up with classical stream on spot. And the dance was her improv.

>>6501691
She can put on a show that others can't. Most streamers put up a face cam, some basic UI, and hope their personality or abilities carry them. Amelia does things that make other streamers go, "we can do that!?"

>>6465803
kill yourself
>>6465839
FPBP

Is this the Ame Appreciation thread?
Here's the next stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGbXkos5E3o

>>6501782
Because being good at "streaming" does nothing to differentiate Amelia from the rest of the women she works with. They're all good at streaming.
The only thing Amelia is good at doing is attracting schizophrenic college age boys who unironically swoon over how "dorky" and "wonderful" the annoying cunt is.
The shit chicken, wigger, octopus, and loli have all been called out for being boring, stupid, lazy, or irritating. Amelia manages to be all four at once, and the lack of accountability has come to a head.

>>6502916
Nah Ame got peer-reviewed inside-outside EN multiple times about her streaming ability. She's the real deal.

>>6486464
Theyre just like us!

Teamates truly are the most hivemind-y brainless lickspittles

>>6503016
Sad, really. I can only imagine the meltdown when their oshi has another moment of "creative genius" and decides to bring her boyfriend on the stream in the next year or so.

>>6503053
Were in a long distance relationship so i wouldn't count on that.

>>6503016
I love Ame. I adore Ame. I want to name all my children after Ame.

>>6503053
Of course she will call me.

>>6503053
I would be very nervous to appear to so many people on a live.

>>6503053
Ame is gonna stream while giving birth in a few months than the Teamates will have to listen to both Bubba bark and her baby cry while she's streaming.

>>6486464
smol ame has that effect on people

>>6504632
Always pushing the boundaries of streaming, a true trailblazer. I expect a lot of copycats in the industry as usual.

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6465839
/thread schizos btfo

>All of the other ENs have evolved and grown throughout their 10 month journey, Amelia hasn't changed a bit, she hasn't done her JP reps like she promised, she still has a terrible sleep schedule and reschedules more streams than the rest combined, she still ignores legitimate criticism. Unfortunately it won't get any better, when Amelia debuted she had a nice hook, the lazy girl with no skills and a horrible lifestyle, there was a nice opportunity to support and see a cute girl grow over the months or years, but instead of putting in the effort to improve her situation she decided to continue being lazy. At this point a significant amount of the original teamates have moved on, the only Amelia fans left are those who would watch a stream of her having sex and would defend it by saying "she cute though". There was huge potential in Amelia Watson, extremely creative with a lot of experience but the average teamate has ruined it for everyone by not only allowing but suggesting she be incredibly lazy and never take responsibility for any of her actions. In another timeline we could of had an Amelia Watson who created the future, but instead we have an Amelia Watson who puts in the bare minimum (if she's feeling generous). When Amelia becomes irrelevant I hope the Goslings know they had a huge part in it.

>Commisioned a new art for an unmonetized stream.
>Passionately talked about bugs.
Well? Which one of you guys saying Ame just didn't care anymore?

>>6507470
Alright, you got me Ame. I was in this thread talking about how your recent streams suck but I have to admit, bugman stream out of nowhere was based.

Still think her game play streams suck and Supa Sunday isn't good anymore, but she's still being creative I'll give her that.

How dare Ame make an entire stream talking about the Chinese.
Why does she hate Coco?

>>6473806
whats that

>>6465839
fippy bippy

>>6465839
Based and true

REMINDER: Amelia and all of the HoloEN girls were on a call on Discord literally laughing and making fun of "schedule" fags:

https://youtu.be/Hrse0RUygcE?t=517

How does that makes you feel?

>>6465839
fpbp

>>6524667
I feel the need for the schedule AME please do the shedule I can't plan my life without her

>>6467823
Good thing Nier fucking sucks then.

>>6465803
Just wanted to congratulate you on the successful bait. So many replies

She has vastly improved her singing skills since the first karaoke stream. You'd know that if you actually watched Amelia but let's face it, you don't.

>>6468383
She didn't want to shit on it on stream and get canceled by nierfags

>>6465839
fpbp

Thanks, OP.

>>6465803
>words words words
op is a nigger