/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Insane how he knows what the appeal of vtubers is yet still makes some of the decisions he does

What's the Nijiyab today?

>>64419891
The well is drying and they need to put down more talented people just to get by, prease understando

>>64419772
i rike

>>64419891
rent free

>>64419772
Not gonna watch it but someone tell me if I should be mad

>>64421499
nah he right

Holy shit, he did the thing
https://youtu.be/1o9RhSlEIMM?t=59

>>64421710
he did it like 15 times in the video

>>64419772
JP version of MatPat's, "What is a vtuber?"
Generic but Yagoo does mention that talents now have some say in their model design.

>>64419891
>>64421312
2 graduations from NijiJP

>>64421801
Note that this means Ao herself saw nothing wrong with her model.

>>64419843
It's kinda bizarre that he sounds like he knows every single detail about the medium yet he still can't make the homos work

Look at my man ballin

>>64419772
Bold of you to assume he isn't doing passive-aggresive jab at Gura.

>>64419772
>gura
Why are sister like this

>>64421801
>Generic but Yagoo does mention that talents now have some say in their model design.
Cover moving away from predefined designs to letting talents have some input on their designs almost certainly did happen because of Myth, Council, and Tempus. I have the feeling that even management started to realize that forcing vtubers to use models they hate was only causing problems.

>>64421801
Having seen IRyS’ suffering, I hope that’s true. I get the feeling it’s apparent in Advent but only partially in ReGloss, unless what anon said here >>64421976 is right.

>>64422761
Only Flare had problems with it

>>64419891
SPBP.

>>64419772
He's so cool...

chumkeks...
EOPkeks...

>>64422761
The one disadvantage of it is that it increases lead up time between the talents are confirmed and debut date. It used to be a two month gap, these days it's anywhere between 4 and 6 months.

>>64422761
in jp alreday happen from gen 5,,
en in advent
id and homos never get tailored model

>>64423432
IRyS...

>>64419772
...so he has absolutely no fucking idea why they are popular

>>64419772
>>64419843
>>64422009
>>64422073
>>64425879
retard

>>64425879
He knows why they are popular among normal functioning human beings

>>64425715
>drawn to other hololive talents
This is the real strength of hololive.
Plus, the ability of holomems to gain news viewers outside of vtubing community is why hololive didn't suffer from vtubing fatigue like other companies/indies.

>>64425715
This is such a basic idea I'm baffled at what you mean by this post

>>64426261
Their talents' quality are above average by default, either having nice voice or extra entertaining skills. Most models are great too. So if you shift to other especially non-corpo you'll find yourself looking in haystack situation real quick. Hololive experience is real

>>64419772
>first chuuba shown doing live streaming
>Mel
based

>>64425871
did she ACTUALLY say she hated it? if so rinku pureeze

>>64426863
Whore

>>64419772
A thread died for this fucking 3DPD piece of shit faglord, who's not even a VTuber?

>>64419891
more graduations from nijiJP, which will make 19 graduations/terminations in less than a year (march 2023-January 2024)

>>64429349
Retard

>>64426059
let's break down the video

>[1] is it actually their voice
nowdays yes, but Cover really tried to push fake high-pitched tone until 3 talents ended on long sick leave for burning their vocal cords

>[2] why did vtubers get popular
anime going mainstream has nothing to do with vtubers. If it did, official anime brand vtubers would be actually popular

>[3] everyday, or 3-5 times a week
Yagoo-san, have you looked at the charts? I don't think your average comes close to 3

>[4] 2-way interaction what makes it great
yet you keep pushing out pre-recorded content

>[5] vtubers have their goals and ambitions
which you aren't willing to fulfill

>[6] gaming transcends borders
yea shitty horror games are so popular outside Japan...

>[7] trend of multiplayer games
yea VCRGTA is going so well with your idols ":D"

>[8] vtubers are getting popular overseas
100% increase in 1 is 2, still very niche

>[9] are there subtitles for live streams
we used to, then Japanese viewers thought it would be funny to report live translators as spam

>[10] creating new IP
I can't disagree that you find some pretty amazing talents around the world...and then shove them into idol dresses.

>[11] motivation is necessary
well that didn't work out, see section 3
where the motivation goes? see section 10

>[12] being livestreamer isn't run of the mill job
well it kinda is if you have natural aptitude for it
doing it as 2nd job however...

>[13] keep streaming for months and months
it's a job, nta

>[14] deciding looks case-by-case basis
"we came up with this cool concept and background script" which talent will throw out of the window in 2 weeks because it's cringe
2nd outfit design starts from with goal in mind "how do I get this outfit as far away as possible from the original settings"

>[15] is your process similar to these non-vtuber idols
it's not, Cover is just taking extra steps to suck at it.
it only took 5 years to admit that if you want to make idols you should hire someone who can sing and dance(thus ReGLOSS was born)

>[16] It's important what the talents want to do
see section 5

>[17] Activities with a unit are guided by the company
and it shows

>>64429478
I'm sorry anon, you have the full retard disease

>>64429451
Faggot. Stop simping for this manwhoring shithead

>>64429478
>ai slop
nvm
>>64429390
Jesus, how the fuck did it get this bad?

>>64419772
>Yagoo
>"OMG! YAGOO BEST GIRL! THANK YOU YAGOO-SAMA!!!!"
>Holostars/Male VTubers
>"WTF!?!?! IS THAT A MALE TALKING TO MY OSHI?!?!? FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"
Why are you retards like this? Why do you any male that isn't Yagoo or a CEO guy? Shouldn't you shit on him too for making Holostars a reality?

>>64429390
bruh

>>64429478
>Cover really tried to push
Already making shit up on his first point

>>64430568
>Bumping this 3DPD shit thread
Fuck off homo

>>64430708
>seamonkey malding that his shitpost thread got bumped off
aw so sad for you

>>64426410
>what you mean by this post
chumbuds are fans of gura, not fans of hololive
EOPs are fans of holoEN, not fans of hololive

>>64429904
>Why are you retards like this?
Because the "wtf male on stream this is literally NTR" thing was a joke until it suddenly wasnt because tourists took it seriously

>>64430708
cute seamonkey, it thinks it’s a people

>>64429904
> Why do you any male that isn't Yagoo or a CEO guy
esl trash

>>64431191
>literally NTR
Or just simply not necessary for enjoyment.

>>64430568
here you go EOP, you prefer clips I take?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE4Bl2Pe1F0
https://youtu.be/XuVnk8rKssw?feature=shared&t=85

>>64431240
>mindbroken by an ESL
Fagoots, everyone

>>64431520
>seamonkey proud to be esl
of course

>>64429390
Yikes, what's wrong over there?

>>64419772
Why am I getting some Bill Cosby and Jimmy Savile vibes from this guy? He looks like some two-faced bastard who has raped at least two of his female employees. I hope he gets exposed

>>64431626
>>64430778
>>64431195
>Seamonkeys living rent-free in his head
lol lmao

>>64431520
>>64431713
why are you brown
>>64431672
>not a new IP
please go home, you try too hard

>>64429904
the newfags are actually insane

>>64426261
vtubing is doing well outside of holo too

I would rather be a "seamonkey" than a FAGOOt

>>64431795
yeah, loud and proud! I dig it!

>Getting this assmad over a fucking grammar
>In 2023

>>64431836
which vtuber is this? Go back, off-topic sludge

>>64422009
Maybe he likes the challenge. Trying different things to see what clicks.

>Using muh ESL and muh IP to retort
Geez anon, try to come up with something original, will you? Those are great signs that you're seething

>>64431829
Be proud for being a Fagoot, cuck! Keep sucking Fagoo's cock that fucked your precious Holo! Go Fagoot go!

I didn’t really believe it when I first heard of street shitters but now I think I’m convinced

>>64432142
Why do they only have cocksucking analogies? lol

>Holofags flip their shits every time they see their girls collab with boys
>The very same Holofags fuck their handpussies every time they see their attention manwhoring CEO
Hypocrisy at its finest. You're just as retarded as Idolmasterfags. Producer-san good but SideM bad. Is it because Fagoo is your self-insert?

>>64432142
>>64432272
Buckbroken

>>64432272
you know why

>>64432503
Also buckbroken

>>64432324
>>64432525
obsessed with gay porn, why am I not surprised

>>64429904
based retard GOD

>>64432674
obsessed with seachads, why am I not surprised
>Inb4 they say >Sea >chads

>>64432745
I only said you liked gay porn, am I wrong?

>>64432724
based homo retard

>seething on cooldown
uniquely sad

>>64423432
Anya literally demanded a flash chested model, and you can tell Kronii wishes she didn't have the bustiest model in EN

>/pol/fags love VTubers
That's new

>>64426410
>This is such a basic idea
You'd be surprised how little common knowledge exists in today.

>>64431511
Where is the proof that Cover pushed them to do high pitch voice? It's ironic you call someone EOP I bet you're too EOP too understand Japanese woman and you think it's the company that forced them? And what's more stupid that you use Suisei as one of your example when she was indie before so Cover also forced her?? EOP newfag kys now

>>64433757
where's your proof they didn't?
and calling EOP is quite generous when it's quite clear they are out of their depth when it comes to discussing marketing psychology

>>64433878
>Make a claim
>Can't provide evidence
>Exposing himself as newfag by using Suisei as his example
Stop embarrassing yourself, EOP newfag

>>64434010
it's quite embarrassing that you want to be involved in topic you don't understand.
5y olds do that

>now he start yapping
Yawn, imagine being that new you don't know Suisei was indie, lurk moar before posting, newfag

>>64431511
Suisei was already doing the high-pitched voice when she was still an indie, you stupid monkey man.

>>64419772
Fuck Fagoo

>>64435777
For this post, I shall bump this thread. for you to sneedthe more, Nijisister nigger

>>64436040
>bumping this bullshit non-/vt/ thread
FUCK OFF YOU GODDAMN FAGGOT

>>64436206
I will bump some more.

>>64434136
>>64434935
Fucking KYS you fucking CEO-shilling literal faggots. Your CEOs will never be women and so will you

>>64435777

>>64422761
Gen2 had input.
Subaru's explained that she chose her colorscheme but it was so retardly garish that Ui toned it down to near pastels.
She said she wanted something bright and bombastic because she thought that'd be better at attracting attention and therefore an audience.
It was probably Gen1JP that had the least say of any subsequent gen.

>>64423066
IRyS suffered from her conflict avoidant personality.
She knew it was shit but didn't want to tell it to the "respected" artist and chose the worst option of having her fans shit on him for a year instead because of her weakness of character.
At least she improved the situation with the second version.

Oh and the Fubuki avatar with dead eyes?
That was Fubuki's desire to show how she was inside at that time and not only be seen as cute.

>>64425715
Why would i support someone who's not my oshi?? it doesn't make sense, bitch could be dead the next day and nothing in my life would change

>>64426261
>This is the real strength of hololive.
I'd say this WAS their strength. Hololive has become so segmented that overlap between talents is not really a thing, especially across branches.

>>64433019
>you can tell Kronii
I don't even need to read the end of this since you can tell this individual just straight up doesn't watch her

>>64436206
seethe

>>64429478
what is your problem

>>64440642
He forgot to save in his h-game and Jakarta got hit by another brownout

>>64423432
Kiara, IRyS, Kronii

>>64423432
At least 5 EN talents had problems with their design and because of cultural differences that became a huge issue. Cover eventually reached deals with Irys, Magni, and Vesper but it's obvious that contract stuff is still going on with Ina and Kronii. While a sexy design might help with merch sales that is a business concern while the talents have to consider whether they really want to be a vtuber for the next 10 years.

>>64441046
Ina lucked out getting a design by one of her most favorite artists.

>>64429904
Why not?

>>64429572
>>64431657
Nijisanji is the epitome of Corporate. Shareholders want money? Lower talent wages. They don't like it/shareholders want even more? Cut them. All to get that stock price up. To be a #fag you look at Hololive and how widespread they are, vs Niji and how little relevance they have with sponsorships, live shows, etc but then look at their stocks and you see HL has lower prices than Niji, because Niji is the one shareholders flock to knowing they can get easy money.

>>64441046
Ins outfit schizo, I see your bullshit. Kill yourself

>>64441046
Ina loves her design you retard.
What you're referring to was a single instance when people were going wild lewding her back and told them to avoid using her main art tag for those. That's it.

>>64419772
He looks really young in this video, guess it's the make up?

>>64437222
>bitch could be dead the next day and nothing in my life would change
then she's not your oshi and you are possibly a psychopath

>>64441876
>Ina lucked out getting a design by one of her most favorite artists.
Ina used to frequently complain about horrible luck and bad cards. She obviously does respect Kuroboshi for his professional art but it's obvious that she had mixed feelings about Hololive. If her outfit was made for a gacha character she most likely would agree that a skimpy dress, geisha shoes, and neck collar would be a good coomerbait design but that is the opposite of what she wanted.

>>64443244
She gave another talk in June where Ina told fans that she didn't want to be a lewd vtuber and doesn't want people thinking the back meme is a reflection of her channel because she normally avoids yabai stuff. Her mom sometimes watches her channel and it's not that hard to figure out why Ina doesn't want to keep using the skimpiest outfit in Hololive.

>>64422009
I think there's a reality that people like fighting against
>this is how the world works
>no! i challenge it!
I guess it could be a neat hobby as an older rich guy, it's like Trading Places, it's a betting mans game to roll the dice on unrealistic things

>>64425879
Sure, that's why he's up there and you're here in 4chan.

>>64445320
That's the thing, she appreciates lewds but doesn't want them to dominate her content.

Armarndo, Ame VRchat appearance.

>>64454291
Ina has always been cold and distant with her fan base compared to the rest of HoloEN. For over 3 years she has pushed fans away and has sometimes been noticeably angry with messages telling her that Ina was their oshi. I am skeptical that she is okay with lewd fan art but she at least wants people to keep it off her official art tag.

>>64456231
She draws for very erotic games, I can't imagine her being opposed to lewds.

>>64456408
There is a difference between drawing sexy fictional characters for coomerbait games and having to scroll through lewds of the character she uses on her own art tag. Several Hololive talents have asked fans to keep their art tag suitable for children. They wouldn't bother asking that unless they either had a personal connection to their character and even if they are only Live2D models that is how fans view them.

>>64427752
bumpu

>>64429569
Nigger

>>64431768
This guy has been around for awhile actually, you can tell because he's the same retard who talks about bill cosby in every thread like this and samefags without quite understanding how ip counts work