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Average HoloEN streams
>Kino and nostalgic games
Averages NijiEN streams
>Minecraft, APEX and Genchink Impact
So this is the power of "creative freedom"...

>> No.6388528

Why do Nijis play so much of that chink gatcha shit anyway?
It seems like debuff more than anything, do they get paid by China to play or something?

>> No.6388583
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>>6388462
*blocks your path*

>> No.6388724

Here's an idea, how about we (You) DON'T start Niji vs Holo thread number 1283.

>Also plenty of Holos stream a lot of Apex and Minecraft. If you're gonna fling shit at least be consistent.

>> No.6388750
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>>6388462
nostalgia, you say?

>> No.6388765

>>6388750
God she’s such a gem.

>> No.6388806

>>6388750
>Ripping off Korone
What a leech

>> No.6388838

>>6388750
>>6388765
Why are pomuniggers like this

>> No.6388855
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>>6388462
>Using based Ame as a leverage.
Fuck you, now post Gura's feed and drown yourself in DBD

>> No.6388894

>>6388855
That more her manager not allowing her to do anything else

>> No.6388901

Nijisanji... the FREEDOM to be completely ignored and to be less popular than indies
Ahhhh...

>> No.6388906
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>>6388855
>DBD
Kino, I can't wait for her to be featured as a killer soon

>> No.6388947
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>>6388462
I wonder how much NijiEN and HoloEN hate each other really, the fact that there is still no collab despite being the two biggest chuba agencies speaks volumes

>> No.6388966

>>6388750
I would give her a chance but there's so much holostuff being released daily that it's hard to fit in yet another streamer..

>> No.6389020

>>6388947
>the fact that there is still no collab despite being the two biggest chuba agencies speaks volumes
Mori had to beg and plead for Vshojo collabs to be allowed and Coco collabs were only allowed in the same month before she graduated, it also wouldn't surprise me if NijiEN's manager also discouraged collabs so that the girls could form their own identities outside of Hololive
Pomu and Amelia are also following each other on Twitter, and Kiara replied to Elira the other day, so there's no malice there

>> No.6389026

>>6388462
It is kind of ironic that people rag so much on Holos for playing the same few games and promising Niji is going to be way better, and then NijiEN does its best to imitate Holo anyway.

>> No.6389048
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>>6388750
She is so perfect bros..

>> No.6389086

>>6388750
That's one Pomu'ed marine.

>> No.6389145

>>6389026
It's also funny seeing NijiEN trying to make minecraft minecraft without understanding why it works for hololive.

>> No.6389200

>>6389145
>seeing NijiEN trying to make minecraft minecraft without understanding why it works for hololive
If your answer is "impromptu collabs", more or less every single NijiEN Minecraft stream turns into that.

>> No.6389282

>>6389200
I like that in general about NijiEN; they're always jumping in each other's streams and chats unscheduled and banter really well. They have a ton of chemistry, and seem way closer as friends than, say, Mori and Kiara, or Ina and anybody.

>> No.6389349

>>6389200
It's not just improptu collabs, holo is just much more community focused and you are never gonna get something as the sports festival or the summer festival in niji

Hell, even the construction companies in holo came from people just running into each other in-game and deciding to buold cool shit together

>> No.6389352

>>6388906
Would you watch Gura if she looked like that?

>> No.6389409

>>6389352
that's hot actually

>> No.6389413
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>>6389349
>holo is just much more community focused and you are never gonna get something as the sports festival or the summer festival in niji
>summer festival
Just say you don't watch Nijisanji and save yourself the embarrassment. NijiEN has had multiple collabs with multiple branches at this point, including in Minecraft - and they often make mention of talking with their senpai over Discord as well, playing board games and the like.

>> No.6389431

>>6389349
Holo just has more people. Hence why all the good Minecraft events are on the JP server. No one cares about the EN nor ID ones, and their numbers don't rival that of JP.

>> No.6389456

I've seen the creative feedom pushed with Nijisanji but after looking at NijiEN for a few weeks, I'm really not seeing it. It just seems like they only play Apex and Genshin Impact. I thought they had more permissions compared to Cover. The only real loss for Cover is Muse Dash. They haven't really done something that is comparable to say what Ollie did with human Ollie stream or that Kiara schizo rant over a sleeping Ina stream. If they do, it comes off as a poor imitation. I would like NijiEN to take a little more chances, instead of sticking to the average vtuber playbook because you can get that same content from indies if you wanted to.

>> No.6389503

>>6388838
Elaborate

>> No.6389506

>>6389431
>holo just has more people
????????

>> No.6389514

>>6388462
>Getting nearly ten times the views with original and interesting content
Not sure what the point is, Ame is clearly being rewarded here already. No need to rub salt in the wound.

>>6388750
Pomu is definitely the best of the three, but OP said "average" content. All of them have largely interchangeable content except for a single interesting or different stream a month.

>> No.6389525

>>6389349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQYUGDhk7aQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WiFjsvo1Cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p6BJObv7UA&t=36s

>> No.6389576

>>6389413
>don't watch niji to save yourself from embarrassment
y-you too!

>> No.6389583
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>>6389456
Creative freedom is like freedom of speech. You're not gonna use it all the time, hell, you probably won't use it most of the time. But just the fact that you have it takes a lot of pressure off you because you don't have to watch what you say all the time, even though you never planned on saying anything bad in the first place. It lets the girls be more comfortable when they stream, and that's all that matters to me.

>> No.6389676

>>6389413
You dummies don't get the point, the point was that there's more unity that allows complex cross branch events initiated by the talents in holo, in Niji it was the management that does the job because each branch was so seperated that they don't really know what happened in other branches, heck even fellow jap livers had no idea what even happened in their own branch sometimes

>> No.6389714

>>6389506
Compared to EN. You're comparing EN for both companies.

>> No.6389720

>>6389282
For me so far this is the one big advantage NijiEN have over HoloEN. Their individual peesonalites aren't quite as unique and are still developing somewhat, amd the OP is right - they really need to start switching it up more gamewise - but synergy-wise theyre far ahead of HoloEN. HoloEN feel like coworkers who'ee on decent terms with each other, NijiEN feel like besties.

>> No.6389740

>>6389676
So? How come you all cry bootlicker 24/7 yet when vtubers within their own company aren't bootlicking by keeping up with every little detail you're suddenly mad?

>> No.6389751
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>>6388462
Using Ame is not fair, anon, she is an anomaly even among holo now Coco's been graduated & Haato is on hiatus. The rest of her coworkers are average at best.

>> No.6389809

>>6388765
No she's Pomu

>> No.6389860

>>6389676
>in Niji it was the management that does the job because each branch was so seperated that they don't really know what happened in other branches
No, NijiEN hopping in a Discord call with NijiID during Minecraft was not management mandated. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.6389932

>>6388462
>So this is the power of "creative freedom"...
Anon, creative freedom is a myth. In fact having that much options in NijiEN spoiled them from developing further, it's holo limitations instead that makes creative ideas and puts them into out of the box types of streams

>> No.6390065

>>6389860
I said events anon, read again. I'm not talking about impromptus here, I'm talking about planned events like that among us Collab, there's no way management wasn't the dealmaker here when Hari of KR wasn't well known among other branches livers for her English skills prior to that collab

>> No.6390121

>>6390065
Ignoring this? >>6389525

>> No.6390149

>>6390065
>Nijisanji doesn't have summer festivals
>Nijisanji doesn't have unity
>Well actually Nijisanji's unity is forced because of my headcanon that management was behind their events
Stop posting.

>> No.6390215

>>6390065
At least Niji management organizes collabs instead of shutting them down. Also NijiEN has been streaming for about two months, it's normal that they don't know their coworkers that well and rely on management to make some connections, they'll surely make more events in the future all by themseles

>> No.6390219

>>6388750
She is a godsend

>> No.6390282

>>6390215
They've already got a foot in the door.
>exchanged Discords with ID
>collabed with Hada
>EN fans from the Among Us collab brought Hari out of her shell and she's back to regular streaming
>Elira and Finana got invited to a JP boardgame event off stream

>> No.6390291

>>6389282
They live in the different continents and from different cultures please underatando

>> No.6390357

>>6390282
Yeah, Kanae basically did a surprise birthday offline collab with them, i'll say that if you give the girls 1 or 2 more months they'll do the same live, shit, when they made the EN/ID DC server it was in a whim and proposed by Elira so i'll say that she's gonna be the one doing an event with ID/KR next time

>> No.6390714

>>6388462
Niji en content and performances are awful. Their synergy and outreach is great. Good for the company but not hype to watch.

>> No.6390772

>>6390121
read again what >>6389676 said
>complex cross branch events
everyone at >>6389525 is a jap you fool

>> No.6390801

>>6389020
NijiEN already did a collab with a bunch of indies + Scarra so i'm pretty sure they can collab with anyone at this point.

>> No.6390824

>>6388528
Literally they are part owned by a chink company. I'm sure they push them all to play it.

>> No.6390851

>>6388750
She's the only NijiEN I've subbed.

>> No.6391068

>>6389456
I mean I don't tune into Apex and GI all that much as well but they are mostly comfort picks for those girls, who streams long hours daily. But I did enjoy watching Hollow Knight, Miitopia, Eurotruck, Shantae,..; they definitely tried to bring more diversity to their content. Even Pomu 9 hours of "God knows..." is an imitation of Chima's Fressia but man did she put in the soul and effort. The collab and impromptu ones are pretty kino as well. They just jumped into each other's stream and bantered

>> No.6391908

>>6389349
Anon... Minecraft as a vtuber game was introduced by nijisanji. Hololive resistance began with nijisanji resistance. Nijisanji began most of the things holo do with JP.

>> No.6392117

>>6391908
Don't bother, to them Vtubing began mid 2020

>> No.6392152

>>6388750
Did you guys know she's working 9-5 then comes home to stream?

>> No.6392206

>>6389282
Yeh like holoID

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