/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

The doubts and apprehensions of men are easily overcome by sexual enticement.

>retard: "why are people trying to move on from the EARTH-SHATTERING AND COMPANY-DESTROYING YAB that just happened people told me it was sewious why is nothing happening why are they still streaming"

>>63748371
The only thing i was distracted by was that she payed $750.00 for a life sized super pochaco mousepad that only cost $399.00 back when it was brand new lol

>>63748371
embarrassing

>>63748371
That's the hand of a child.

>>63749946
Rare goods get more expensive in the second hand market. Super Sonico-affiliated shit really increases in price in particular.

>>63750265
I am aware i have all the super sonico 10th anniversary figures they have all legit quadrupled in price. But i wouldnt pay the prices they are worth now deff not worth it to each their own i guess.

>>63748371
wonder why you cut the number of viewers, im guessing it didnt distract many people after all

>>63748371
Her hand look chubby. Nene still hold the title of best hand

>>63748371
>Puts spongebob boxers on it
haha epic upvoted

>>63750670
constant 1k+

>>63750742
she probably wore those, i'd kill to sniff it

>>63750670
If you need numbers, here.

Idol is a black company

>>63751433
Jew company*

Riro should have been promoted not fired.

>>63751182
>>63751385
>constant
Stop lying, you fucking jews.

This corp needs to be terminated. Not even twitchthots are like this.

>>63751748
>Not even twitchthots are like this
Shylily literally had dinner with and fucked the CEO of twitch not too long ago.

>>63751693
Keep hugging that chart forever, dude. Numbers never change after all.

>>63751693
>Uruka

>>63751693
what kind of mental illness is this?

>>63752411

>>63752452

>>63752501

>>63752216
Oh I finally learned how to use vrabi, this looks better

>>63751693
>Airi

>>63752656 and all the other screenshots (not going to multiquote like a retard)
Pippa raids look like a numberfag nightmare, damn

>>63752446
It's called being a phasenigger

>>63752656
>>63751693
Speaking of Airi, the creator of this chart is fucking drunk. It shows her with a 535 average ccv. Only 3 of her streams were above a 535 average with most of them being far, far below it.

>>63751693
Dizzy, Uruka and Airi are all huge raid babbies.
Dizzy is also a pippa collab babby.

>>63752772
Airi and Uruka get frequent mega Pippa raids which bumps up their average huge.
Conversely, Tenma Shiina Ashelia Panko don't get shit in terms of raids.

I'm starting to think the creator of that chart cannot do math.

>>63753007
I don't think you understand what averages are

>>63752656
Airi got raided. She even showed her war video again for the raiders.

>>63753007
>he leaves out her last week which included 3 4 view streams
dishonest idol shill

>>63753067
Anon, that image shows an average ccv of 374, 449, 1102, 367, 612, 680, and 459 for 7 streams. That's a 577 average per stream. They are all roughly 1.5-2 hours streams so duration does not have much impact.

>>63753194
Fine speech. You didnt include streams past 11/23.
Now include her streams from last week.
Please show the class.

>>63753158
Anon, even if I include the Unarchived karaoke, worst fandom in history stream, and unrailed collab, the average doesn't move.

>>63753158
>>63753290
That wasn't the question, anon. She the screencap and numbers for the ENTIRE month of November.
Should be a simple screen shot.
show from November 24 to November 30.

the mental gymnastics itt is amusing

>>63748371
Two vibrators on stream?

>>63753007
>>63753194
>>63753290
idolfag in shambles

>>63753556
well uhh anon if you just don't count streams from November 24-November 30, then her average is 577.

This chart was made by the main numberfag of /#/. If you want to question his methodology, go there.

>>63751693
>the two jewesses
nyo...

>>63751693
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA PHASEKEK GETS BTFO

>>63753638
it's called the idolfag is upset and is cherry picking and leaving out data.
he got busted
>>63753007
>>63753556

>>63748371
Huh, I like the hair

>>63753556
>the stream just titled "feet" has 3x the views
Why are you people like this...

>>63753724
I don't consider feet straems to be VTuber material. If she wants to be a foot model then she's welcome to do so.

I don't know how to make vrabi work so I just took a screenshot and combined it with >>63753007's post to get the count.
Using the peak viewers from his image and the number from vrabi, the average is 703.

>>63753907
yet you and the other idolkeks are in here celebrating when your girls do it? interesting.
>>63748371

>>63753007
>>63752772
NTA, but that table showed “True average”, not the average of the streams’ average viewership. Those are different things.

>jew tries to lie about numbers and discredit /numbers/'s table anon
>gets btfo in real time
table anon wins again. many such cases

>>63752411
>>63752452
>>63752501
>>63752539
>>63752656
NTA but 50% retention rate is pretty good for small corpos
>b-but raiding is cheating!!!
Hate the game not the player.

>>63754349
there are raids, and then there are Pippa raids.
this isn't a raid of 200. this is Pippa dropping 3,000 viewers into a girl who is streaming to 300 people.

>>63754349
50% retention is absolute trash in shit like karaoke streams.

>>63753980
So let's also compare Yuko's numbers. (I still don't get vrabi)
Average is 665.
Conclusion: >>63751693 inflated Phase's numbers slightly and deflated Idol's numbers.

>>63754626
anon those numbers in yours show peak, not avg.

>>63754626
Thanks for this anon, I knew Idol was still beating the fuck out of Phase.

>>63754626
>I still don't get vrabi
we can tell because you are averaging maximum amount of viewers per stream, not the average

table anon in /#/'s does not lie. he does not care about jew or phasekek feelings

>>63748371
those are some really fat fingers

>>63754792
Average for all streams. 7986 added numbers / 12 streams = 665.5 average.
Another option is that the chart maker pulled those numbers out of his ass since vrabi only shows the peak viewers, or he used another site that isn't listed on /#/ for some reason.

If the jews were honest for once maybe they would have people watching their corpo
The Riro termination pretty much cemented that they will never be trusted with anything

>>63755019
anon the vrabi numbers you are adding together are PEAK, not average

>>63755083
The average of all added peaks, anon. Also known as median.
If there's another site that counts small corp numbers more accurately and shows both the avg viewers and peak viewers for all streams then why the fuck is it not listed on /#/.

Why isn’t /#/fagging outside its thread a bannable offense yet?

>>63754932
Pretty much, those charts are pretty much just the holo bragging hours with Niji trying to catch up. The likes of Phase or Idols are but filler in the chart

>>63755191
that's peak not average, you are stupid.

>>63752118
There were more attractive whores at that dinner tho.

>>63755019
>>63755191
You dont understand numbers at all. We're not talking about peaks. We're talking about true ccv average because that nerfs to effect raids have.

to left is your median of peaks. to the right is actual true average.

>>63751693
>sub homostars en numbers
holy kek, it is actually this grim for small corpos...

>>63754499
True but hey, it's still better than 0% (like some nijis do)

>>63752118
Idolkek stop trying to deflect so much, you literally just had a girl get axed for sucking off your company's lead talent manager

>>63754032 (Me)
>>63754626
>>63755019
That’s not how it is calculated, though. That true average stat is neither the average of all peaks, nor the average of all averages. See my post (having lunch so I won’t be able to elaborate further for another 30 minutes or so)

>>63755306

>>63755266
Sure. Please show me where you got the data from then, I'm working with the only numbers I have available to me after looking for the data in the most logical place for it.

>>63755306
You see anon, the trusted table autists made this all up in order to suppress Idol numbers.
He made up numbers for 180 EN livers just to make Idol look bad in favor of Phase Connect

>>63755396
Did you know that if you click on a stream on that site then it shows you data of all the viewers, pulled for the entire stream, in fixed intervals

>>63755198
Because jannies don't want to do work beyond the girls they personally enjoy and if you ask in IRC they'll bitch about it. Sorry, eternal console wars and noombers.

>>63755019
>>63755191
>The average of all added peaks,
That's not what is being shown in that table. DO you know how the average of a single stream is calculated?
>pic related
The average within a single stream is calculated by taking every datapoint in the sample, calculating the area below it
>usually a matter of taking the sum of the product between the height of the point by the interval between samples, which is usually constant
and then dividing by the stream length.
That's how the average within a single stream is calculated.

To calculate the TRUE average of a channel (hence the name in that table "true average") you do the exact same thing, but "stitching up" all streams together.
You don't really need to take every sample again and redo the calculation, you can just reverse the process within a single stream

>multiply the average of a stream by their stream time
>sum the products for all streams
>divide by the sum of the stream time of every stream
That's how the average is calculated, both for a single stream and for the combined set

Sorry. Is this a numbers or clussy thread? I'm confused

You could easily fix the raid issue by only checking the viewers for the first hour, before the hour ends so raids wont count
A real streamer wont lose their core viewers after the first hour

>>63755464
Yes.
Unless you mean I'm supposed to do all math to find the avg viewers manually for each stream (fuck doing that just to try owning some nerd on a shitposting thread), I can't find it anywhere.

>>63755611
You're in the "an Idolfag is coping hard and tries to do numbers proving a phasekek wrong; embarrasses himself and is asked to leave" thread

>>63755346
Indeed, but Phase are some of the worst when it comes to small corpo at being raid babies.

leave the numbers to the numberfags. they know what they are doing. you don't. simple as.

>>63755801
ehhhhh, sometimes

>>63755396
>Sure. Please show me where you got the data from then, I'm working with the only numbers I have available to me
Data is sources from vstats, vrabi, holostats, niji mado and vtstats (when appropriate).
For Yuko, it is availably only on vstats
https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCcIcMRVpNqWQn4WnDhRASAw/2023-11

There are not a lot of streams in the set for her, you can had calculate it, or use a light Excel to do it
>pic related

>>63755306
If a liver's peak is way higher than their true average, then they are confirmed a raid babby.

>>63755801
I know what I'm doing, anon.

>>63755846
>jewposter calls /numbers/ number's bogus
>numbers anon shows up
>immediately provides source data with duration, stream id etc
it is at this point the jew didn't understand the level of autism he was dealing with

>>63755988
numbers anon doesn't show raids and collabs unfortunately. Not a good source of the strength of the chuuba as seen plainly with Airi >>63755871

>>63755682
Ah I get the issue now, it only shows >>63755573's autism graph for big corp streams. No wonder.
>>63755846
Now that's more like it.
>6808 added avg / 13 streams = 523.69 avg
Still different, but I guess there's all that true avg autism I can't even begin to be assed with (much less doing an excel table).

>>63756059
>Not a good source of the strength of the chuuba
I agree with that, but those tables are not there to show that.
They are there to show
>the median of peaks
>the true average
No more, no less.

>>63756059
It is what it is. Everybody gets raids and has collabs.
Every company has girls that overly rely on raids to make their numbers seem way better than they are. That's the game.
Pippa raids are so overpowered and inflate a couple of the Phase girls by a lot that is a fact. We know who they are.

>>63756110
Simply adding the peaks and dividing by the number of streams is a very reductive calculation because it is easily skewed by outliers
>events
>raids
>collabs
Now, if you check the pic provided at >>63755306, there is a column in the left table called "Mean Peak"
That is the number you are trying (and failing) to calculate

>>63756220
Airi's mediean of peak is 400
Airi's true average is 535
Uruka's median of peak is 900
Uruka true average is 600
so this is the power of pippa viewer funneling. there 2 shitters wouldn't even be top 10 in idol

>>63756110
And lastly let me go back to >>63753007's cope which is what started this whole retarded discussion.
>8562 / 11 streams = 778.36 avg
tl;dr what the fuck were you even trying to do here
Thank you >>63755846 for actually giving a source for the data instead of repeating "no ur retarded" on loop. All this taught me is that I'm better fact-checking by myself than trusting everything people say.

This is... nothing. It's pretty tame stuff.

One day I hope there will be the great vtuber war

>>63751693
>removed hololive and male vchewbas only
thanks for the laugh

>>63756570
And just for amusement's sake I wanted to laugh at >>63750670 >>63751693 again since he's the one who started this whole shitpost.
Sure there's a chance he's an ESL who thinks the "constant 1k+" referred to Coni's entire channel and not only for the ass mousepad stream, but that would be even funnier anyway.

>>63756696
Dipshit, this is a chart comparing Phase Connect and Idol. Of course everyone else has been taken out. The full table this is all taken from is *also* in this thread, and it’s over 150 entries long.
No shit someone decided to filter out everyone else and make a version comparing only the Phase and Idol members. That’s the entire point of this thread now that it got derailed by numberfags

>>63756800
To be fair, I'd say this thread's initial purpose was mostly ex-Aetheria fans poking fun at Lumi. That's generally what happens when Coni posts like these are made.

>>63756718
grim numbers for this type of whore content
wontons managed to pull off 1k with halo

>>63757278
get off of it.
coni did the same numbers wontons did when she did TRIPLE BUFF tryhard stream of handcam+react content+40k

>>63757523
wait, are you seriously watching wontons

>>63757826
no I threadwatch pcg for drama tho

>>63756655
Who's gonna tell him?

>>63758030
anon... I...

I wasn't understanding what the point of the thread was, nor who it was about, but thankfully the numberfriends arrived with a thousand pointless graphs to help my understanding. It's true after all, why would I need to see any discussion about the stream or the chuuba when I can have these incredible graphs? Streams are shit, I only need my beloved numbers.

>>63758220

>>63757523
Implying that’s a bigger a buff than having HANDCAM + LEWD in the title like Coni. Idolkeks really are dumb.

The masses will not fall for these bread and circuses we know our chuubas are being sexual exploited by their bosses at this zionists corporation.

>>63758327
Sorry, meant to reply to >>63756473

Where is the EN small corpo numbers general? I want to see more idolkeks vs phasechads debates.

>>63759070
It would probably clean up both pcg and jidf of its worst posters. not a terrible idea

>>63759070
>>63759270
>1K DORYAAAAAAAAAA
>it was a raid doesn't count DOESN'T COUNT
>PIPPA GOLD AGAIN BOW TO THE QUEEN
It sounds so pathetic and sad that it could be funny actually

>>63750110
Yes. A literal child :d

>>63751385
brown, seething hands wrote this post. kys

>>63748371
that's a fat hand...

>>63760833
Thankfully I'm as white as Coni, anon.

>>63748371
chubby hands

>>63748506
Read this like a fucking Darkest Dungeon line

>>63764947
It would suit a game called "fucking Darkest Dungeon" rather well, wouldn't it?

>>63755306
Luca losing to focking KAELA