/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://vt.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>63490388

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>103,939: Koyori (Hololive)
>44,166: Okayu (Hololive)
>29,354: Gura (Hololive)
>25,177: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>23,804: Marine (Hololive)
>21,011: Pekora (Hololive)
>18,657: Patra (Indie)
>18,295: Kanata (Hololive)
>17,787: Ririka (Hololive)
>16,587: Koyori (Hololive)
>16,307: Gwelu (Nijisanji)
>15,793: Chloe (Hololive)
>13,923: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>12,919: Kronii (Hololive)
>12,753: Hajime (Hololive)
>12,666: Korone (Hololive)
>12,237: Ayame (Hololive)
>12,081: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>12,024: Calliope (Hololive)
>10,354: Hayase (Nijisanji)
>10,181: Watame (Hololive)

So, 103k was somewhat predicted?

Holy based, we needed to do this a long time ago. There's nothing in common between EN and JP numbers anyway.

EN has no numbers why were they allowed in the other thread to begin with?

>>63490866
yep, about last year's numbers

>>63490866
100k was more or less a consensus.

>>63490936
It started as a joke. Even EN tally was just a joke. But some people don't understand jokes and took it seriously. It ended like it ended.

>>63490936
Well, they can have their own discussion over there now that it's their home turf, idc.
This is one will be strictly JP only.

nothing changed

>>63491048
Thread will probably die, because there's no good JP streams for almost 10 hours. But it was a good effort, just a wrong timing.

>>63491074
Not having the obvious folks in here makes it much better already

>>63490388
Based
Sakamata 120k prediction
I fear gotalu won’t be able to break 100k

>>63491137
We can just talk any JP streams, low numbers or indies can be interesting too.
I'll try keeping it going until prime time tomorrow at least and see how things go.

>>63491216
RUMAO DELUSIONAL SAKAMATARD
She ain't beating Lap-chan

>>63491302
It’s okay as long as Lapu cries in the MK tourney again this year

>>63491302
Nah, orca clears 120k easily if decent guests.
But I do think Iroha will be very dependent on guests.

Alright, these are top 10 currently going streams
Well, do keep in mind that it's 3:30 AM in JP

>>63491599
holy LOL is grim
Night time is grim in general, even Luna/Flare can hardly break 10k when they were doing it

>>63491599
BENI LOVE
how’s the new vspo been doing? I’ve hardly seen her interacting with the other girls

>>63491755
I don't think VSPO has a "collab ban" but they definitely want her to establish herself for a few streams solo first.
It'll probably be a furupa with Lisa/Akarin/any of the other addicts once a week or so has passed.

>>63491216
HoloX numbers are an enigma. They\re all over the place. Orca is being overlapped by a sponsored streams, but only Korone is a big deal, and even then i don't think it's going to be a big deal, 15k-20k between 3 streams max. I'll say 100k but not 110k.
109999 is closer to 100k than 110k btw.

>>63491599
Grim. But it's expected.

>>63491755
As far as debut numbers go she's only doing better than Ramuchi...

>>63491216
This outfit is a 11/10 it needs to be made into 3d

>>63491302
Orca will have 140k. People love tuning in to her tits and the singing is generally one of the better received ones. She's had a bit of a slowdown this year around though so I'm not shooting too high.

>>63491074
Nah this thread is significantly better

>>63491216
I think she'll do better than Koyo but worse than Laplus

>>63491947
Anon, Chloe has stopped her "music focus" for more than a year now.
I can't see it beating last year.

Chloe's numbers leading to last year's live

>>63491947
You're underestimating the weekday debuff / Sunday buff. Getting 120k on par with lap is already considered extreme overperformance.

>>63491891
that’s fine. akarin and met were already established before joining so they already had a following. hope she can come into the fold soon and let her autism show like her senpais. if she’s decent at fps, I’m sure the cute voice will attract a crowd. Btw her twitter account has a restriction on it for some reason. Weird

HoloX is a strange gen. Except from Koyori they aren't that big as a streamers. Their collabs had pretty grim numbers. But their events are so big for some reason. It feels like they really were a first gen for a lot of people.
No, i'm not a gen5 shizo, but if we compare them... HoloX obviously have a bigger genbox.

What happened in the previous thread for this thread to exist?

>>63492194
And her numbers leading to this year's

>>63492252
No discussion of numbers

A lot of overlap tomorrow

>>63492252
you can feel free to check out yourself, it had been ongoing for like 2 hours

>>63492244
Every gen brings in new people apparently. I dead ass have talked to a bunch of people who didn’t know shit about vtubers who hoped in with Advent

>>63492252
a few retards got filtered by cunny spam

>>63491216
Gotalu seems pretty popular for idol stuff so with good guests I'm fairly confident she'll get 100k but she hasn't had great mindshare in the holobox lately so it's not definite.

>>63492297
So the policy change was actually pretty significant even in the same branch. (tbf Ririka and Ao are technically from a different branch)

>>63492244
Well, yes. If this wasn't clear 2 years ago, HoloX was cover's attempt at finding younger/zoomer audience. I suspect that Koyori/Lui/Iroha somehow fell into the old holo audience but the other 2 have somewhat succeeded in their objectives.

>>63492383
>guests

>>63492244
HoloX perfectly embodies the direction Cover has been wanting to move in over the last several years. The unit itself is the thing that's popular and Cover in turn sells the unit. If you're a fan of any member of HoloX you're a holoX fan and you'll make sure to buy their manga

I think what Cover is scared of in the future is having too much of their success held up by several individuals. By making people fans of the unit itself you get people buying more merch, and fans stick around even if someone were to leave

They've been going much harder on gen branding with both Advent and Regloss and I see the "HoloX" formula being much more standard down the road.

>>63492505
Pokobee is a guest
a big one at that

>>63492252
I did a little trolling (not really, i was 100% genuine) and bunch of people disliked it. But it turned out some people are actually kind of tired of idiots trying to turn numbers into hololive general 2. Will it change something long time? Probably not. But at least we can enjoy a slow thread for a few hours.

>>63492409
It's a watchalong of a livestream, they can't do it any other time. I don't know why they even want to do this, but ok.

>>63492194
>it's been a year since nyaoha
what the fuck

>>63492297
Brutal. Still think she’ll surpass Koyo easily tho

>>63492194
>>63492279
The most significant thing i can tell from these 2 pics is that Chloe streams significantly less now.
What happened?

>>63492702
the ghost mindbroke her

>>63492409
It's a sponsor and sponsors want the people to stream at specific times. They probably would have made an exception for this regardless but yeah it might have convinced some.

>>63492702
Menhera ass and zoomer tendencies

>>63492702
Gotten sick + some menhera bouts that came from being overworked

>>63492279
Oh no, last year she could hit 20k with solo streams while this year are mostly 10k streams
This won't turn out as well as some of you might think

>>63492565
Indeed, cover saw what happened with gens 4 and 5 and realised gen unity was a lot less volatile and easier to sell overall. Yonkisei became basically untenable as a promotional unit after their first year and after Aloe, gen 5 became the rough blueprint that cover has been expanding since then into holox, advent and regloss (notwithstanding the dev:is retardation)

>>63492895
as far as we're concerned it's still a sure gold and very likely a 100k stream, so whatever. Will be interesting to compare with Lap's tho, who some people thought wouldn't even hit 80k.

Has Regloss recouped the numbers they missed out on thanks to Yagoo’s retardation? I imagine they still will all get 100k 3D debuts even if they don’t have the sub counts to show for it. Same with advent

>>63493091
No way they would, as they're now.
I really think they will forever be stuck at Gokisei-tier or gamers-tier regarding 3Dlive/concert numbers aside from Raden.
Well, unless they have a miracle rise to popularity, that is.

>>63490524
Koyo tits for ANTS

>>63491599
Mika is still there? Thought she's gone already

>>63493055
No way she'll even touch La+. 120k was such an overkill it's crazy. I don't know what was it, just a day of the week or she tapped into the outside of the box audience, but 120k is impossible for Chloe.

>>63493091
Eh, i'm not sure about it. Raden - sure. Hajime - maybe. Other 3? Probably not. Whatever, they decided that ReGloss is their own thing, even if it's retarded. We should probably compare it to main hololive branch with a little bit of a multiplier.

>>63493385
You're underrestimating Kanade, the actual singing rep of Regloss. She's actually good, does it regularly, and is funny too. She'll have the best concert numbers.

>>63493385
Ao's 3D debut will be a pretty sight to the grimfolks

>>63493544
Just have to hope the rest of the company will have saviorfagged her enough by the 3d debut

coyote sex

Also, i remember Raden saying that we'll know soon enough why they're different. I was some time ago and still nothing specific.

>>63493539
It's more about mindshare than a singing ability. But i would be glad to be wrong. I like most of regloss.

Alright, numbers prediction for stinky.
Bet balls.

>>63493753
>>63491830

>>63493753
Chloe - 105k
Iroha - 95k
>bet balls
post proof?

>>63493753
110k

>>63493753
Too early to have this talk retard. Waiting room 1 hour away will be more indicative than any bullshit we can come up with rn.

>>63493723
Based Reglosschad

Speaking of Ao, new cover later today, her music hasn't done very well so far.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EVb0CFVhuxo

>>63493753
>weekday debuff
110k tops

>>63494075
holy jesus christ man, anywhere I look devis is really grim.
the only thing that's not grim is when I actually watch their streams, I think they're great, but that doesn't help at all.

>>63494075
>Ao
might as well give up numbers concern if you chose to support her, it won't get better anytime soon

>>63491755
not very good apparently, her voice filters alot of the fps crowd, plus some are suspecting shes not a jp native (although she claims to be one) so shes kind of raking up antis, i think she will have to drop the fake voice and go from there

I think Iroha will get higher than Chloe actually
>why?
Four 100k+ streams in her career so far, beating all of HoloX and some of the older Holos too. It's very obvious.

>>63494524
one of those was a police minecraft event

>>63494524
No way. People realised that she's a fake samurai. Also, it all depends on the guests. She's not going to get 100k on her own name recognition alone, that's for sure.

>>63494524
Meanwhile
>gokisei 0 100k+ stream
>Council 0 100k+ stream

>>63494682

>stable 2k in debut week
HOLY GRIM

real thread

>>63492505
Cant ruin the collabs if theres no collab

>>63493723
I just assumed Raden meant that in the sense they'll be doing a lot more music work and that we'll see that
Regloss puts out a lot of music shit, those weekly lists are full of them now. Cover did say they are meant to be a music gen so I think that's what was meant.

>>63494853
destroyed with facts and logic

>>63494853
lmfao

>>63494853
Sumanai, I took my shit from the resident Gokischizo without updating
Naked dogezo will suffice?

>>63494885
That's actually kinda sad to see

>>63494995
nah commit sudoku

>>63494313
>drop the fake voice
gay as fuck. also who cares if she’s not a native?

>>63494524
I think Iroha will not pass Lui desu

>>63495190
None does if she could speak relatively normal like Kanade or Tsuna, but she's blabbling in an unpleasant way
she got a bit better actually the streams after debut, but the point stands

>>63494313
>her voice filters alot of the fps crowd
she changed her voice?

>>63494915
>Cover did say
no they didn't retard
find me an official statement or on stream confirmation that they were intended to be music branch

>>63495430
Read the post again anon, it's about the new VSPO debut, not Beni

>>63495423
if Hajime and Luna are able to keep their retarded voices and succeed then I think anyone can get away with a gimmick voice. Hope she sticks to her guns

>>63490388
BASED OP

>>63494524
the Irohafag followed us to this thread I see
well, I don't think she will. If anything she'll be Lui tier

>>63495521
Cover said some vague bullshit about performances and announced them with idol outfits. It being more technically correct doesn't change the core of the comment that Cover wants these bitches to perform faggot.

>Koyo thread
Guess En is allowed after all

>>63495872
koyosex

I'm off, would be great if I get to see the thread still alive when I wake up

>>63495844
Here's something funny.
There has been a case where a smoka chuuba got 3D debut delayed because they can't taking smoking break in the middle of a live concert.
But yeah, no idea if Raden still smokes or smokes that heavily since I don't follow her that closely.

>>63496096
Oyasumi

>>63494885
What's the deal with this girl?
The other girl is getting pretty decent numbers. Well, comparatively.

>>63496341
debuffed character, was also not a fan favorite during VTA

>>63492297
The sponsor streams are pretty unavoidable, so realistically it's only a different branch overlapping Orca. I think most Holo still try to avoid overlapping a same-branch coworker's events.

>>63492244
I think HoloX's audiences are pretty much removed from the old guards and are more similar to Nijisanji's audience, i.e. the ones who don't tune in for regular streams, but do show up for events and shorts.

>>63496441
Well, the difference is that they don't have to now, which is something to consider I guess.
Koyori had a Debiru collab that was ongoing during Noel's live. I assumed this was becayse a cross-company collab is pretty complicated in paperwork and couldn't be easily rescheduled.

>>63496534
Not all of them
Koyori definitely falls back to mostly Hololive audience with her content and collab partners
also her actual age

Why the fuck does this thread exist?

>>63496941
because it needs to

>>63496941
to suck yamato's chinchin

>>63496941
you do 't have to dig archives very deep to see why

>>63497079
damn Yamato had a dick?
Count me in

>>63496127
I tuned in to Raden's zatsu after her health break and she hadn't smoked during her break until said stream. It seems that she's conscious about it at least, maybe there's an effort to reduce the frequency.

>>63496341
The big axe is too big for small-dicked nipponese men
but seriosuly speaking she hasn't been impressive in any way

>>63497609
nice tits

>GOLDEN GEN
GOLDEN GEN
>GOLDEN GEN
GOLDEN GEN
>GOLDEN GEN
GOLDEN GEN

>>63498132
in sexo, obviously

>>63496941
Because Gura’s Cunny been getting posted none stop on regular numbers thread and it’s honestly disgusting

>>63498132
>shilloX
>golden gen
Sankisei is where it's at

Is IRyS allowed here?

>>63498132
>shitter hag
>stinky menhera that doesn't stream
>retarded zoomer that throw her holo career away
>dumb samurai that doesn't stream
>ok this one's actually good
basically a 1-man gen

>>63498224
It hasn't been posted nearly enough.

>>63498609
I would plow her hafu-pussy wide so yes

>>63498609
No, I rather talk about NijiJP than any EN shitter.

>>63498609
No.

>>63498609
When she does JP collabs? Yes
Seems like she does the splatoon ones often enough

We need a /vt/ split
/vt/ for western
/jvt/ for japanese

>>63499133
The JP Holothread slow as fuck, just go post there

>>63491216
So the Titty Orca gets 120k and the actual idol of HoloX won't get 100k?
rumao nice joke anon

>>63499133
It's already exists >>>/jp/

>>63499373
Gotalu is the shame of Japan, she will disappoint

>>63499373
Neither of them can break 100k without a good guest list, so I guess that settles it

>>63499373
Bro I want her to do better than kuroe but you know sex sells

>>63498132
Inu love

>>63499961
HOLY SEX BAKAMATA
RAPE UNTIL HER PUPILS DILATE AND SHE BEGS FOR MERCY

>>63498132
*Blocks your path*

>>63498132
ReGloss would have done better if they had the same branching and invesment that Rokkisei had, prove me wrong

>>63499373
a suisei appearance would guarantee 120k gozaru no doubt

>>63498609
I would PLAP this Hafu for a week straight until she was impregnate with my child, so yes she is allowed /here/

>>63500552
Kanade love
Raden rape

>>63500552
Lmao sideshart
Reminder that one of those girls ain't JP

>>63500552
>no hags
>>63500730
it would but iroha doesn’t have the balls

>>63498132

>>63500960
Kanade, Tsuna and Dtto are all welcomed here. Learn the difference.
Well, not like their humble numbers will warrant that much discussion.

Why don't you guys just make a Koyori general? Or is that what this thread is implied to be?

gamers>3>5>6>1>0>2>4
no challenge

>>63490388
>>63490435
>>63490524
>>63490483
>>63490580
>koyori experiments on how long it takes to kill and then resuscitate you after smothering you with her thighs

>>63501431
First of all Miosex
Secondly no because PekoMari exists

>>63501431
Based hag enjoyer

>>63501507
Nasty whore, hopefully she won't get anymore golds this year because I ran out of Koyolewds

>>63501557
If peko wasn’t in sankisei, they’d be my number 1 or very close to it I hate brats

>>63501431
Only Korone is a powerhouse in Gamers, even Fubuki doesn't have much going these days.

>>63501863
anon, Pekora is 1 year away from being a hag

>>63501981
>le forbidden knowledge xD

Seems like we can at least agree on the bronze gen

>>63501981
Ogey. I doubt it’ll change the way she acts at all. I don’t hate her, it’s just not my thing
>>63502096
sorry watamate, you and kenzies are my bros. lunaitos are pretty cool too

>>63502096
but that's not Gokisei

Imagine being so jealous of a 4 ft tall shark girl that you go and make a split specifically catered to your oshi
>EN doesn't count!
>JP only!
LMAO I look forward to your oshi's numbers getting rekt next time, scrubs

>>63502390
? Most of the EN numbers are so hilariously bad
>Need constant raids to even break 10k despite a gen being only over 3 months
Very grim indeed

>>63502390
what are you even mad about? lol

>>63502390
Good to know you're so salty that you followed here just to announce it

>>63502096
Watamebros...

all these faggots wanna do is shit up threads. just ignore

>>63502096
So, any defendants Yonkishitters?
Lamy at least has a wine brand

>>63502803
Towa's sololive
RUMAO WALKED RIGHT INTO THAT ONE

>>63502803
We're in the numbers thread. Kanata's numbers BTFO any Gokishit. nuff said.

>>63502803
>3 albums
>3 successful and hyped mariokart tournaments
>3 sololives
>2 cr cup trophies
>tony hawk and yamaha sponsorship
>an orisong made by porno grafity
Go to the other thread if you can't numberfag correctly

>>63503238
Kanata streams. Haven’t heard anything about her since she had her unicorn breakdown

>>63503327
I was aware that she won 1 CR cup with Selly and Ex Albio (?) but was there a 2nd time?
Sorry, don't really follow the CR content that much.

>>63502803
>wine that went nowhere
>imaginary "ramen chain"
I'll approve once I taste them myself

>>63490881
agree!
>>63490388
konkoyooooo!

>>63491137
ohohohohoho don't underestimate jp chads ability to bump!
a home for jps WILL EXIST if people want it to!

>>63491830
whats the top for the holox stuff so far?

>>63504212
Laplus 120k this year has been the highest, last year Lui topped at 110k

>>63492565
koyori is holox though

>>63493302

Can we talk about Stgr numbers?

>>63504276
Lui was the highest? Whats the rest of them?

>>63504398
BIGGER

>>63491216
She'll if Pokobee comes with a drone again

>>63503784
She won a CR Cup with Cpt and Noah, and then won an OW CR Cup as well, so technically it’s 3.

>>63491137
Thread will die because this is lame, and proof that the people responsible for this split don't understand /#/. It was never about actual numbers or to cheer for an oshi, but to make fun of others because of their numbers. That's the whole point of the medals and why they were created, to make it fun. And like any other sport, 100% of the fun is the banter, be it with another person, a schizo, or a guy pretending to be a guy disgused as another guy.
EN is a big part of the banter. Segregating the topics only removes the amount of stuff that can be discussed, and ultimately, make fun of.

>But this thread will be purely about /#/ !
It already isn't. it's the /holoX/ bump party and it's sad.
When you all inevitably return to /#/, relax a little, and just learn to have fun atothers expenses, and sometimes at your own.

>>63504451

>>63504709
HOLY
How did Lap-chan do it?

>>63504464

>>63504709
how did koyo come third...?

>>63504410
It's impressive, but I doubt it's their ceiling yet.
Once Shaka/Daruma/K4Sen/Kuzuha/Towa joins the numbers will be absolute nuts for the key players.

>>63505070
so far what i've observed is that people in gangs and police force get pretty good numbers. Well, first stream or return streams also do well. Wonder how things will turn out when VCR GTA roll around early Dec tho.

>>63505386
what audience is that shit targeted at btw?
I did like vcr gta but couldn't get into stgr, too many povs and seems like it started like a year ago as well so no way to catch up.

>>63504410
It's better on Twitch than on Youtube, so you're already playing a disadvantage here.
>Lauren 25k yesterday
Return stream. Usually it deteriorates very quick unless you're Fanta_JP or Kanae.

lewd bitch

>>63505823
yeah mine!

>>63505070
When will a holo join stogra?

>>63506081
2 more weeks

>>63506081
Probably never because they either don't stream or don't collab outside

>>63492621
>some people are actually kind of tired of idiots trying to turn numbers into hololive general 2
>this thread is hololive general 3
This is funny if you consider it a "win" nijikek. No one will ever care about your livers outside yabs.

>>63506081
whats stogra?

>>63506605
GTA streamer server that's been ongoing for like a year now.
Recently it boomed in popularity after VCR GTA and many vtubers joined.

>>63501301
B-but Dtto speaks English too

>>63506765
Laplus and Aki VCR did really good so I imagine they'll follow.

As lurker I welcome this thread the /数字/

>>63506894
Difference is I would want to fuck Dtto silly whenever she speaks Japanese, which ENsharts don't do

>>63507278
based

>>63491302
this pic goes hard

Seems like there is a Suika tourny today.
But NijiEN so numbers would likely be laughable compared to JP, maybe it would be on par with that Suika contest Aruse Inu held recently (sub 20k)

>>63507860
whatever, I just wanna see my girl Hayama winning something

>>63507860
only reason to post it here is that it has some JPs in it, but yeah, numbers look anemic so far aside from the main POV

>>63490388
hey nice idea for a thread, I'll use it.
The other thread is mostly just totally offtopic shitposting about EN chuubas so it might be necessary to let them play in their muck and move on

>>63508444
Yeah, I figured it was long overdue.
I do hope people who post here at least know who Ohtani or Ade are.

Observations of Marine's recent song growth rates:
Views in the last 24 hrs:

Marine Loli Kami: 116k
Marine Bishopai: 115k
Loli Kami's growth continues to freefall. Bishopai will overtake its rolling 24 hour rate in the next 2 or 3 hours.

Marine/Gura Shinkiro: 50k
Marine Maribako: 40k
Shinkiro's growth also continues to decay. Within a few days Maribako should have a faster growthrate.

Goes to show how strong Bishopai and Maribako are, I think. Even if you're as successful as Marine, you can't pull off that level of success every time.

>>63508898
Well, if it wasn't obvious enough Marine's audience was lukewarm about the guest appearance. Animation and music was ok enough but nothing loopworthy like the 2 former.

>>63508898
Wait, Loli Kami is wearing off suddenly?
Are Marine's song supposed to be more stable in growth or something?

>>63509353
Ui had mroe tiktok viewers, who would move onto the next thing. Most of them already did anyway.

>>63509353
They're not always more stable in growth, Maribako and Bishopai are just the leggiest leggy songs that hololive has ever seen

In fact, the day after tomorrow Maribako is going to become the most-viewed hololive orisong on YouTube
And it's basically guaranteed fend off everyone else and stay the most-viewed..... until Bishopai overtakes it.
We're not that far off Marine having the number 1 AND 2 songs in hololive

>>63508898
Marine and Loli Kami ruined music view discussion.
Any songs not up to their insane level is basically just a flop now.

>>63509857
I think you can still talk about them productively, but yeah, Ui and Marine are very clearly on a different level to everyone else

>>63509857
Speaking about, let's zoom out at some other big names to see how their recent music are doing.
>Suisei-Zion
981k after 24 days
>Aqua-Kyukurarin
620k after 25 days
>Towa
Kaijū no hana-uta: 1,18m after 32 days
Otona blue: 213k after 2 days
>Kuzuha - Fake face dance music
2,418m after 19 days

Well? Are we in debuff music season?

On the topic of Ui, Ui's Loli Kami Requiem MV has hit 64.5M views
But its growth rate has finally started to get close to reaching a new low. It's down to 375k in the last 24 hours, which is a growth rate that hasn't been seen since 2 or 3 days after it first released, when the initial buzz had worn off but it hadn't yet gone viral on tiktok. It's possible that within a week or two we'll finally be able to say that Loli Kami Requiem is growing at the slowest rate it's ever been growing at.

>>63510529
Yeah, something is up with these numbers. Everyone is bombing. I'm not entirely sure how to explain it.
CCV seems fairly healthy lately but music views really do seem like they could be in a rut

>>63510529
Towa's and King's look decent enough but Aqua is genuinely underwhelming for a meme cover. Ayame's cover of that song performed great.

>>63510529
Looks anemic aside from maybe Kuzuha
Pretty sure things song views are just lower across the board for a few months now

>>63510529
This VSPO cover looks pretty comparable in numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IVfW_rvxQw

>1,527,528 views Premiered Oct 29, 2023
I guess they are not beating the going idol allegations

>>63510579
>Ui's Loli Kami Requiem MV has hit 64.5M views
can anyone redpill me on the number of actual lolicon
is that just the Streisand effect ?

Wtf? Numbers is good again??

>>63511502
I'll let Chinman tell you.
Btw he was partly the reason why Ui Loli became a thing.

>>63511376
dabbling in music even if your primary content is something completely different is always going to be a smart thing to do in general, it's not like you're asking a lot from your audience to listen to one of your heavily produced songs

>>63490388
>Japanese Vtubers
This is trash.
Why not exclusively holo JP?

>>63511502
The song was released a year ago and didn't really go anywhere
The MV now is stomping everything because
>good animation
>actual good chreography that can be made into TikTok challenges
Once it managed to reached normalfags and zoomers, the little girl appeal managed to carry the rest.

>>63504566
That's after the ENfags started going into the thread you absolute newfag. Peak numbers was during early 2021 iirc, the Kuzuha vs Pekora era.

>>63511729
Having said this, I caught a Tsuna utawaku a while back and it was legitimately a tier or two below even a Noel utawaku. Obviously you can touch her up for a studio release like >>63511376 but there are going to be limitations on how much you can expand into music if you hire completely without regard for musical ability.

>>63512048
nah, peak numbers is whenever the Emperor comes on stage and mog everyone (for like 5 times a year)

>>63510529
Otona Blue is going like most of Towa's music after youtube screwed with things. 170k first day which is in her usual range for first day then youtube says fuck off bitch and the second day dies, only 25k for day 2. Then it just gets steady views from her fanbase until it hits 1M and it proliferates a bit more. The viewcount doesn't get any assistance from the guests since they're the minnows of the company either.

>>63512067
She can sing but her utas are generally a bit sovl tier, she needs a lot of practice and preparation to sing well

>>63512161
If guest was the reason then I don't think Antares would also struggle like it did and still does.
>689k after 49 days
This cast includes ShibuHaru, Hinano, cpt, Putechi and some more. I would expect it to at least reach 1M by now.

>>63511502
There's a thing known as the law of prevalence. Anything that people have a strong incentive to hide will be many times more prevalent than it seems.

Interest in loli is an example of this. It is heavily looked down upon by society, so anyone sensible who is interested in loli isn't going to shout it from the rooftops. This means that there are way more people interested in loli actually around than are willing to admit as much.

But that animation is slick enough and innocuous enough that normies find it appealing too, so it's hard to tell how much of it is actual lolicons. Probably a minority of views, at least.

>>63512907
TLDR: people are closet lolicons
What were we say about music viewers when Kuzuha's King was on top for 2 years btw?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi2KjoZBYsU
Kurokami song just hit 1M, took 55 Days
Pretty average for FBK's standards. I guess Kurokami isn't that much of a buff.

>>63513558
I think RIM was ahead for a bit, wasn't she

>>63512765
Towa’s originals have always been a bit slow compared to her covers. She has excellent choice in cover songs that fit her, but her original music selection has usually been pretty lacking. Antares is probably the weakest/one of the weakest songs musically from her album. From that album, the only other was Twilight with an MV and Twilight got completely miffed due to it being a short version MV on the release date of the album, while it’s a better song, it’s extremely weak compared to Towa’s other niki songs and not even being the full version, so she can’t even collect views from Youtube Music streaming.
The one to look out for is the duet song with Tsuna since it’s pretty good off the album for a better look of things.

>>63513984
Honestly, i just like Scream more. The same with Suisei. Artists hate it when their older works are more popular, but it is what it is.

>>63514618
There’s some decent tracks off Aster, but it’s because Towa wanted to go for songs that “tell the story of Tokoyami Towa”. Scream was just meant to be a collection of songs that are just good instead of going for a broader idea. Aster only really appeals to Kenzoku as a result.

Only noteworthy stream going on right now is Met's, seems like she's doing some kind of zatsus. (more debuffed than her NichiuAsa since those would usually be 12-14k)

The NijiJP POVs that's doing the Suika tourny aren't even worth mentioning since they look so grim.

>>63514618
Aseta Hanamidori should have been the headliner for Specter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Ybz_yjQ6U

>>63514959
METO SEXO

>>63512142
The Emperor saved us from CCVID but can he save himself from the death of Apex?

>>63515517
He doesn't need to, everyone moved onto valo and other shit. EA can feel free to keep their dying pile of shit.

>>63508444
agreed, theres too much random pol spaming in there too

>>63515517
Virtual Gorilla gave up to, padniggers killed Epe

It's approaching bump limit and here I'm thinking what OP to use outside of gold winner thread.
Would the same otaku/JP-related, non-vtuber OPs do?

>>63510579
>>63510529
>>63508898
How's Koyori's doing?

>>63516138
I thought Apex killed Apex, with their terrible Ranked Matchmaking system reworks.

>>63516214
I like using winners until the next one is out. It would separate us from the other thread too because that one uses random stuff.

>>63516214
anything otaku-related is fine i guess
better not to post cunny for now
no, not because i'm seething at cunny, but just to filter out unwanted elements for the first few thread

>>63516389
not a bad idea, but looking at Pekora for 1/5 of a year might get tiresome
and again, it will be just holos for 70% of time
i'm fine with that, i'm holoenjoyer, but random unrelated OP can be way more neutral

>>63516273
Depends.
Some of her new ones did pretty ok but they were
>Loli Ui cover
>HoloX group cover
>God knows (this one she did pretty well)
some others performed terribly
>Shoujo Rei
>Hero
>Mikuru Legend of Love

Thing is, even her most "decent" ones can't really compare to the topdogs of music views.

>>63516603
Good point re:Pekora. But we can cross that bridge when we get there, there's also the fact that the other thread is 10x as fast as this one so we wouldn't go through ops as fast.
Also want to discourage off topic troll spam and crab encourages that so id rather we didn't have off topic crab.

>>63516867
fair point, we probably aren't going to get more than 2-3 threads per day

>>63516862
Real question is, are her views enough to make doing music worth it? Not being one of the top dogs is not necessarily bad.

>>63516603
Could go with a basic template image that gets updated every so often with current event memes

>>63517078
Depends on what is "worth it". Many talents said that they're doing it for fans and it's just a money sink. Hard to judge such things.

>>63517120
That requires someone to edit the image every thread/the same person to bake and might become a source of friction if people disagree on what to edit in.

>>63516603
>>63516214
I'm still for the stricly neutral and JP-related stuff.
Ya know, would help this thread a bit with avoiding the tribalfags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg
Can this beat her Kaibutsu cover?

Just use the winner or random cute anime girls. It doesn't need to be that strict. Just posting non-winner should be frowned upon, because it just opens the floodgate for shitposting.

>>63517462
oh shit it actually got some views
i'm too used to regloss having grim numbers
not a bad cover, Kanade sure knows how to sing

>>63517462
Potentially? This song rarely gets covered by Vtubers but generally it does pretty well

Yui Hizuki (neo-porte): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkGTs3TMSTQ
Tenjin Kotone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_eTv-9jB9U
Vlichan (isegye): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Go33WYnqw

I can't tell for everyone but I thought Kanade's cover was quite good

>>63516214
Other anon is right, stay neutral, some random anime girl will do.

Have mornings always been this lacking streams?
Met is the only one streaming.
I swear usually there would be Koyori/Mio/Subaru, Toru/Ars/Yorumi and some others this time frame.

>>63518286
Rindou is streaming but it's just part of the the NijiEN Suika tourny. It's kinda boring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZkIgu92KsU

>>63518286
yeah, it's especially grim today
as you said, Koyori/Mio/Subaru are often filling this spot

>>63518286
Ars and Toru ended too early for your morning needs... They streamed through the night after all.

>>63518395
>not even 17k
the ENsharts are doing worse than fucking Aruse Inu at holding a Suika tourny lmao
I'm glad this thread exists

jeez, without Met this morning would have been truly grim

>>63504035
So cool...

>>63518286
Karubi is also doing a zatsu:
https://www.twitch.tv/akamikarubi

>>63519557
holy sex

>>63516356
The ranking is one thing but when they came out saying
>It would take us a few years to get rid of all the pad-abusers
A lot of players straight up rage-quitted.

>>63518991
EN chuubas of all the vtuber corporations struggle to get even 20k for their birthdays, its sad really.

>>63519791
Is removing cross-play for ranked not feasible?

some movements on Vaultroom twitters recently
>confirmation on Pekora merch yesterday
>This tweet today on Karubi
https://twitter.com/room_vault/status/1729672114012111335

>>63520120
their video with Pekora was fucking cool

>>63518286
koyo is exhausted

>>63520120
>かるびから1129の日で朝一に5kgのお肉が届きました. 嬉しいけど、冷蔵庫に入らないので捌くまで家から出れませんありがとう.
Why is she like this?

>>63520120
Cold chicken wwwwwwwww

>>63519860
Nah crossplay isn't the problem, the controller having absurd aim assist is. There's no point to all those slick movement techs you can do in the game since a little analog tilt is all it takes to keep you centered on their screen. You either snipe them from a distance that outrange a 3x scope, or you go full melee bunnyhopping around them with EVA8 since the camera control is slow.

>>63519791
I think dogshit meta is a real problem
or woke trash or cheater
vspo should hire fighting game chuba

>>63520300
She's the princess from the Meat Kingdom, that's why

>>63520412
Yeah, but if you disable crossplay then PC players will never have to face controller players. Gamepadfags can go circlejerk themselves with their borderline aim hacks.

>>63520543
She must be giga-fat if she ate 2 of those for a meal

What's he gonna do with all that meat?

>>63520899
Either give to Pekora or distribute to people in the upcoming VCR GTA

>>63521016
Vaultroom guy is part of VCR GTA?

>>63521067
Uh yep? Doi-san is the founder of Vaultroom.
VCR is Vaultroom + Crazy Raccoon.
They collab to make the servers.

>>63521067
they are V in VCR
they're one of the main sponsors

>>63521181
>>63521210
Oh I see, I never really followed the VCR streams.

>>63521240
same, i just heard it somewhere and decided to flex on you

>>63521016
Talking about vcr gta, who do we expect to join the next server (that weren't already in the previous one)
Personally I can see
>Aki Rosenthal
>Fubuki
>Hoshikawa
>Chihiro
>Belmond
>the new Vspo debut
>streamer side: no idea
Pretty excited to see the final list actually

>>63521621
No way Aki would join non-Ark but everyone else I agree is fair game

>>63520300
that's just Karubi hime

>>63516214
use random manga panel OP

>>63522626
actual nice idea

>wednesday
Yep, there won't be any streams from anyone until at least like 4PM JST. Hang in there anons.

>>63523366
*blocks your path*
Valo twitch streams but it's something
https://www.twitch.tv/petit2434
https://www.twitch.tv/hello_miraijin

>>63521621
Well for joining everyone is pretty much fair game, sticking around until the end though is much more difficult.

>Suika
>valorant
>sf6
>splatoon
>GTA
>fashion dreamer/refind self/Don't scream
H-how about variety?

>>63524283
you will watch SF6 #185 and you will like it

>>63524283
>>63524400
am i shizo if i think that Pekora had an idea to make a small SF tournament but more and more girls started playing and management asked her to wait so now we aren't gaining shit anymore and everything is going to just die out without any climax?

I think Towa already said that there won't be a Mario Kart tournament this upcoming New Year. Is it possible that the SF6 tourney will replace it?

>>63524283
Probably don't have permission to go outside that. Its really unfortunate.

>>63524701
Mario Kart is kind of a "everyone included" tournament. A lot of holos are playing SF but it's still not even close. Maybe it doesn't need to be. But again, SF tournament isn't very repeatable. Who knows if anyone will care about it next year, for example. But i'm ok with a different tournament every year, might be nice.

Suddenly, Ririka stream. Somehow i completely missed it. Fatto catto hour later.

>>63524627
no, I think management asked pekora to postpone it so sf6 tournament dont overshadow holostars en debut.
pekora actually will do it with just 8 holomem but it is good more holo interested in sf6.
dont worry it will be more hype when pekora announced it and they will be doing a lot collab practice streams

>>63524701
sf6 will be in december. everyone is busy in january so it will be better if they do mario kart tournament in february

>>63525404
No mk tourney...? But it's tradition by now...

>>63524400
>>63524283
Tekken 8 will save us, trust the plan

>>63525512
just move it to another month, or let another holo take over. towa busy with her anniversary in january

>10k
People are hungry for a holo to watch during the day.