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>>63386599Nah advent was a dud, only the dogs are worth it. I hope EN4 is soon.
Promise unity
>>63386678Recent clip numbers>>63335427>>63335454>>63335478>>63335500>>63335528
>「DAYBREAK FRONTLINE」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover) *new*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWexRFqs3Wg>「名前のない怪物」 - 音乃瀬奏 (cover)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZfAdZuaok
So what did we learn from the last thread anons?
Fauna my love....
mumei is EN's first arm-ACK
>>63386718Biboo is okay and Rissa has the occasional karaokeShiori, however, is doomed
>>63386678*YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY*>131,604: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)>123,105: Laplus (Hololive)>51,717: Pekora (Hololive)>43,639: Miko (Hololive)>29,156: Lui (Hololive)>28,993: Fuwamoco (Hololive)>28,983: Suisei (Hololive)>24,530: Okayu (Hololive)>23,100: Koyori (Hololive)>22,298: Shigure Ui (Indie)>21,561: Koyori (Hololive)>21,554: Ange (Nijisanji)>21,317: Subaru (Hololive)>19,655: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>19,348: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>16,120: Salome (Nijisanji)>15,975: Haato (Hololive)>15,917: Mio (Hololive)>15,419: Fubuki (Hololive)>14,519: Roco (Nijisanji)>14,122: Towa (Hololive)>14,099: Aki (Hololive)>14,096: Salome (Nijisanji)>13,978: Bijou (Hololive)>13,931: Met (VSPO)>12,169: Watame (Hololive)>11,855: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>11,493: Nene (Hololive)>11,452: Kagami (Nijisanji)>11,385: Noel (Hololive)>11,368: Kanae (Nijisanji)>11,169: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>10,977: Ririka (Hololive)>10,752: Chigusa (Nijisanji)>10,631: Nui (Nijisanji)>10,410: Lamy (Hololive)>10,320: NeruMero (Indie)>10,303: Kuromu (VSPO)>10,267: Mimi (VSPO)
>>63386599Essentially yes, you can also see it in the meh reaction Armis got as compared to the absolute seething vitriol that greeted tempus 2.
>>63386718> Bringing up the dogs now of all timesOof, this isn't going to age well in a month
4k doryaaaa!
>>63386835>NOVEMBER 2023 GOLDS1) Haachama (Hololive) - 127,696 - Return Stream2) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,774 - FGO Gacha3) NeruMero (Indie) - 47,083 - Genshin Impact Watchalong4) Miko (Hololive) - 80,004 - Minecraft Sports Festivel5) Hal (Neo-Porte) - 89,256 - Valorant Vsaikyo Team Distribution6) Hololive (Hololive) - 61,522 - Hoshimatic Announcement7) Pekora (Hololive) - 49,839 - Monster Strike8) Miko (Hololive) - 48,907 - Soul Calibur 69) Marine (Hololive) - 44,099 - Karaoke10) Polka (Hololive) - 68,854 - Anniversary 3D Live11) Nene (Hololive) - 78,239 - Anniversary 3D Live12) Marine (Hololive) - 177,277 - Anniversary 3D Live13) Hololive (Hololive) - 71,935 - Hoshimatic 3D Live14) Pekora (Hololive) - 52,335 - Monster Strike15) Lamy (Hololive) - 115,324 - Birthday 3D Live16) Shion (Hololive) - 51,013 - Momotaro Dentetsu World (w/ Korone, Okayu, Pekora)17) Miko (Hololive) - 56,733 - Clubhouse Games 51 (w/ Haachama)18) Botan (Hololive) - 78,496 - Anniversary 3D Live19) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 87,358 - Valorant Vsaikyo20) Mio (Hololive) - 89,746 - Dating Game Show (w/ Pekora)21) Hololive (Hololive) - 32,412 - HoloExpo24 Quiz22) Subaru (Hololive) - 40,848 - Zatsudan (w/ Nene)23) Youko (Nijisanji) - 122,763 - EX Gamers Anniversary 3D Live24) Noel (Hololive) - 73,475 - Birthday 3D Live25) Pekora (Hololive) - 45,398 - Monster Strike26) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 131,604 - Street Fighter 6 Tournament
>>63386385I'll fully cop to being on that train and being completely wrong on that endMan completely redeemed it with this shit, like, damn
Oh is the 5th element diva song
>>63386868why a month i'm confused
>>63386893>PER COMPANY21x: Hololive3x: Nijisanji1x: Indie, Neo-Porte>PER STREAMER4x: Pekora3x: Hololive, Miko2x: Marine1x: Botan, Haachama, Hal, Kuzuha, Lamy, Mio, Nijisanji, Nene, NeruMero, Noel, Polka, Shion, Subaru, Youko>2023 GOLDS>PER COMPANY233x: Hololive74x: Nijisanji11x: Indie6x: Neo-Porte, VSPO>PER STREAMER71x: Pekora29x: Miko21x: Marine13x: Hololive, Kuzuha11x: Subaru10x: Nijisanji9x: Suisei8x: Toya6x: Aqua, Hal5x: Mio, Yashiro4x: Chiroru, Fuwa, Iroha, Lamy, Leos, NeruMero, Okayu, Shiina, Towa3x: Flare, Fubuki, Koyori, Lui, Shion, Watame2x: Aki, Botan, Fuwamoco, Hajime, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Maimoto, Mel, Noel, Polka, Salome, Tsukasa1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Haachama, Hibari, Himawari, Hololive English, Ina, Kaede, Kanade, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Kobo, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Lize, Luna, Met, Mito, Mori, Mumei, Mysta, Nene, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Ponto, Qpi, Raden, Rikiichi, Rion, Roco, ROF-MAO, Ryushen, Youko
>>63386599EN3 posting started around a month or two before the "expected" EN3 debuts which were around June 2022.When EN was dead in Nov-Jan was when even redditfags started asking where the fuck is EN3
they are still trying
In another timeline, EN3 still hasn't been announced
nerissa winning back all that good will she lost from all the niji collabs
any bleed for the new streams rn?
>>63386812Where’s her bots today?
>>63386810RGB is nice
* YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *>11/26 DAILY TALLY28,993: FuwaMoco (Hololive)13,978: Bijou (Hololive)5,480: Kronii (Hololive)5,130: Nerissa (Hololive)>EN GOLDS FOR NOVEMBER 20231) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 17,718 - Spooky Stories2) IRyS (Hololive) - 16,829 - Game of Life (w/ Ina, Choco, Flare)3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 12,710 - FuwaMoco Morning4) Scarle (Nijisanji) - 26,714 - Outfit Reveal5) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 14,962 - Karaoke6) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 10,867 - Unarchived Karaoke7) Mumei (Hololive) - 17,273 - Unarchived Karaoke8) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 6,813 - 100 Days Celebration9) Bijou (Hololive) - 8,185 - Devil May Cry 310) Fauna (Hololive) - 10,112 - The Stanley Parable11) Bijou (Hololive) - 13,554 - Apex (w/ Amelia & Mumei)12) Aia (Nijisanji) - 12,056 - Outfit Reveal13) Mori (Hololive) - 20,890 - Monopoly (w/ Ina, Shiori, Nerissa)14) Kiara (Hololive) - 11,914 - Offcollab (w/ Mori & IRyS)15) Kiara (Hololive) - 10,143 - Offcollab (w/ Haachama)16) Mumei (Hololive) - 9,283 - ASMR17) Fauna (Hololive) - 13,166 - Dredge18) Rexford (Holostars) - 22,189 - Debut Stream19) Octavio (Holostars) - 32,761 - Debut Stream20) Bijou (Hololive) - 9,892 - Minecraft (w/ Mori)21) Bijou (Hololive) - 9,726 - Super Mario RPG22) Nerissa (Hololive) - 19,127 - Birthday Stream23) Bijou (Hololive) - 9,208 - Devil May Cry 324) Mori (Hololive) - 35,347 - Super Smash Bros (w/ Kronii, Shiori, Bijou)25) Millie (Nijisanji) - 19,579 - Outfit Reveal26) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 28,993 - Collab (w/ Lui)>PER COMPANY20x: Hololive4x: Nijisanji2x: Holostars>PER STREAMER5x: Bijou, FuwaMoco2x: Fauna, Kiara, Mori, Mumei1x: Aia, Fulgur, IRyS, Millie, Nerissa, Octavio, Rexford, Scarle>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)40p: FuwaMoco39p: Bijou26p: Fauna20p: Mumei18p: Mori13p: Kiara10p: IRyS7p: Nerissa6p: Rexford, Shiori5p: Aia, Fulgur, Millie, Octavio, Scarle4p: Baelz, Kronii, Petra3p: Crimzon, Goldbullet, Vox1p: Amelia, Enna, Reimu
>>63386831Oreo is fineEven Nerissanji is alright
>>63386911Even she likes her new 2.0 more.
I suspect the only way a Brit would ever work in HoloEN is if they have a beautiful, clear upper Received Pronunciation accent with no harsh tones or edges.Everything else just makes Americans think of Oliver Twist, I'm so sorry
>>63387040>2023 EN GOLDS>PER COMPANY256x: Hololive68x: Nijisanji5x: Holostars1x: Idol>PER STREAMER32x: Fauna31x: FuwaMoco28x: Mori, Mumei24x: Gura19x: IRyS15x: Baelz, Bijou, Ina, Kronii14x: Mysta12x: Amelia, Kiara9x: Vox4x: Nerissa, Pomu, Ren, Selen, Shu3x: Hololive English, Luca, Nina, Shiori2x: Alban, Finana, Fulgur, Ike, Millie, Wilson1x: Aia, Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Kyo, Luxiem, Octavio, Petra, Regis, Rexford, Roca, Rosemi, Scarle, Sonny, Vesper, Victoria>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)295p: Fauna276p: FuwaMoco232p: Mumei223p: Mori183p: IRyS175p: Ina153p: Baelz141p: Bijou129p: Gura121p: Kronii112p: Kiara105p: Mysta98p: Amelia77p: Vox75p: Luca55p: Nerissa38p: Shiori37p: Shu31p: Selen29p: Pomu24p: Nina21p: Ren20p: Fulgur19p: Enna, Ike18p: Millie17p: Sonny15p: Hololive English, Uki13p: Finana11p: Axel10p: Alban, Elira, Kotoka, Wilson9p: Petra, Vesper7p: Regis6p: Bandage, Kyo, Rexford, Rosemi5p: Aia, Flayon, Luxiem, Octavio, Roca, Scarle, Victoria4p: Bringer, Magni3p: Bettel, Claude, Crimzon, Goldbullet, Hakka2p: Meloco1p: Kunai, Maria, Shinri, Pippa, Poko, Reimu
>>63386929They're gonna start streaming significantly less in a couple months because they'll be debuting somewhere else which is why they're so stressed about "homework"
>>63386997once nerissanji, always nerissanji
>>63386999All bleeding to moom
>>63387073Even he himself is like, "HELL YES I MADE THIS, LET'S GO">The concept has changed quite a bit compared to the previous visuals.>Did redjuice really draw this? Some of you may be wondering, "Did redjuice really draw this?" I drew all of them! (Papa's dignity) If you know the design of GIRLS FROM HELL, you won't feel so strange, but it is much more KAWAII-ish. I am glad to hear that the change is generally well received.>IRyS has the characteristic of metamorphosing in various ways depending on her environment, so I think it is safe to say that this design is one of the various possibilities. By the way, is the official name HOPE 2.0? I'm not sure either... "2022 Winter Version" is just a tentative name I gave it. I hear it is also called IRyS 2.0.
>>63386987and they shouldn't even try with lore here, because it's dogshitjust numberfag their valorant/apex ranks and tournament accolades
>>63387134what?source?
>>63386911legs too thin
>Offcollab>3D tracking>Sub 5Kmowi...
>>63386980>Your voice has been heard>Your wish has been grantedWe did get EN3 though
>>63387230And with gigabuff super talent Milky Queen!
>>63387204Bro go look in baubau or find it somewhere else. This obviously isn't the place to talk about it
>>63387134If that happens Advent will be in shambles.
>11/26 YESTERDAY'S FINAL EN YTxTW DAILY TALLY28,993: FUWAMOCO (Hololive) -Botted-17,862: Vei (Mythic Talent)15,996: IronMouse (Vshojo) 13,978: Koseki Bijou (Hololive)9,416 : Henya The Genius (Vshojo)7,692 : Filian (Mythic Talent)7,016 : Shylily (Mythic Talent)6,646 : Sinder (Mythic Talent)6,078 : Neuro-Sama (Indie)5,695 : Ouro Kronii (Hololive)5,130 : Nerissa Ravencroft (Hololive)>EN YTxTW TINS FOR NOVEMBER 20231) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 17,706 - SPOOKY STORYTIME (Botted)2) IRyS (Hololive) - 16,829 - Game of Life (w/ Ina, Choco, Flare)3) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 12,657 - FWMC MORNING (Botted)4) Scarle Yonaguni (Nijisanji) - 26,714 - New Model Debut (Botted)5) FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 14,868 - FUWAMOCO ROCK N' RAWR PARTY6) JaidenAnimations (Indie) - 14,200 - QSMP MINECRAFT7) Nanashi Mumei (Hololive) - 17,273 - UNARCHIVED KARAOKE8) JaidenAnimations (Indie) - 21,933 - QSMP MINECRAFT9) Vei (Mythic Talent) - 9,940 - World of Warcraft 10)Hakos Baelz (Hololive) - 11401 - VRCHAT KARAOKE 11)Koseki Bijou (Hololive) - 13,554 - APEX LEGENDS (Botted)12)Vei (Mythic Talent) - 18,262 - World of Warcraft 13)Mori Calliope (Hololive) - 20,890 - Monopoly (w/ Ina, Shiori, Nerissa)14)Takanashi Kiara (Hololive) - 11,914 - Hand Cam Nail polish (w/ IRyS, Mori)15)Takanashi Kiara (Hololive) - 10,143 - Meme Review (w/ Haachama)16)Nanashi Mumei (Hololive) - 9,283 - ASMR (Botted)17)Ceres Fauna (Hololive) - 13,166 - Dredge - (Botted)18)Jurard T Rexford (Holostars) - 22,189 - Debut Stream19)Octavio (Holostars) - 32,761 - Debut Stream - (Botted by yagoo)20)Koseki Bijou (Hololive) - 9,892 - MineCraft21)IronMouse (Vshojo) - 10,305 - Lethal Company 22)Nerissa Ravencroft (Hololive) - 19,127 - Birthday stream 23)IronMouse (Vshojo) - 15,624 - QSMP MINECRAFT24)Mori Calliope (Hololive) - 35,347 - SuperSmashBros (w/ Bijou, Shiori, Kronii) (Botted)25)Millie Parfait (Nijisanji) - 19,579 - New Model Debut (Botted)26)FUWAMOCO (Hololive) - 28,993 - TwinDay (w/ Lui) (Botted)>PER STREAMER4x: FuwaMoco2x: IronMouse, JaidenAnimations, Vei, Kiara, Mumei, Bijou, Mori1x: IRyS, Sacarle, Fauna, Rexford, Octavio, Nerissa, Millie Parfait >PER BOTTED3x: FuwaMoco1x: Bijou, Mumei, Fauna, Mori, Octavio, Scarle, Millie>POINTS PER STREAMER (tin = 5pts, rubber = 3pts, plastic = 1pt)28p:Bijou25p:IronMouse, FuwaMoco14p:11p:Vei, Mumei13p:Fauna, Mori10p:JaidenAnimations, Kiara6p: IRyS5p: Scarle, Baelz, Fauna, Rexford, Octavio, Nerissa, Millie Parfait4p: Henya The Genius, Shiori Novella3p: Vox Akuma, Fulgur Ovid, Buffpup, Petra Gurinn, Goldbullet, Ruze, Kronii1p: Filian, Mori, Neuro Sama, Aia Amare, Amelia Watson, Shylily, Enna Allouette Sources: Streamcharts, vrabi
>>63387188just steal from blue archive
>>63387320The second legendary vtuber
>>63386995>omegay was promoted instead
>>63387230Mori going to collab with pekora next week
Rissa you can raid mumei now
I'm out of the loop, who is the girl in Nerissa's karaoke?
>>63387345Huh? Advent will be fine, in fact the rest of Advent might actually do BETTER. /baubau/ will be in shambles.
>Nerissa streaming>gets dry throat>gets a broom and starts slamming it down on the ground>leans into her mic and says, "Excuse me, Aneriss, ROOM SERVICE">30 seconds later>Aneriss can be heard shuffling in the background>Nerissa takes her water from her and says to chat, "Thank her for me, Jailbirds">Aneriss walks back downstairs, ignoring the sound of her sister laughing at the voices in her computer and her other sister getting impregnated yet again in the basement
>>63387409her sister
>>63387409My wife.
>>63386812It’s hard to start during overlap, few can and still do well
>>63387186>not even papa knowsDoes Cover not have a name for it either? Not even internally?
>30 minutes in>4.6kMumei….Just wait to get saved by Nerissa like the raid baby she is, I suppose
>>63387423>her other sister getting impregnated yet again in the basementGod that's so hot
>>63387188They are fucked lmao
Nerissa is a great addition to HoloEN, this has been great. They really need to give her something to slay with at HoloFes.
What's going on here?
Fauna Post Best Post
>>63387496Nerissa is the new Queen MakerPoor Fauna...
>>63387525By the time she gets to participate in HoloFes, new shiny singer would’ve debuted in EN4
>>63387525She's not gonna be at HoloFes.
>>63387525When is her orisong coming out?
This fucker is still around? He just sc'd redjuice.
>>63387485It's almost certainly just called "IRyS" now.Like, straight up replacement. But I assume they don't wanna OFFICIALLY wipe it from existence, either, so they just have that placeholder "Winter 2022 Version" as the official name while using it as default in every other capacity.
>>63387621You act like people aren't going to be like>This new bitch in EN4 isn't as good as Nerissa.
>>63387435>>63387437Hmmmm... can Yagoo recruit her? and Anemachi now that we talk about holo's sisters.
top 5 en box 34k
>>63387623worst case, she'll be doing a react along with Advent for the Fes.
rissa inclining again, currently watching biboo but what's she singing, is it worth finding an archive for
>>63386812You know, maybe Mumei and Nerissa are similar in that everyone just wants to watch them sing, not play games.
>>63387525>He thinks there's going to be an EN4
>>63387743Phantom of the Opera, but the reason for the incline is that her sister's on singing with herStream's PROBABLY over in like a few minutes, unless she gets pulled into yet more songs again
>>63387525The entire gen is pretty solid to be honest.
>>63387723there won't be any holo en females at the holo expo.
>>63387743Duet Phantom of the Opera with her sister
>>63387782They'd be stupid to try, honestly, until some of the other weeds are pulled.
>>63387762also irys
Nerissa soprano/falsetto and Anerissa alto harmonizing together is damn good
>>63387631Coming soon™ in holoEN terms is 2months or longer. But Advent has been showing clear difference in treatment. Things seem to go smoother for them? Maybe it's just me
>>63387743Phantom of the opera with her sister
>>63387600no, the queenmaker is and will continue to be fauna. Nerissa will only become queenmaker when she consistently pulls ~8k
>>63387204https://x.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1680397587046895616
>>63387801EN3 is top-tier, they just really>REALLYshould have been released a full year earlier
>Kaela: *uhh* *uhh* *uhh*>15 seconds of silence>Biboo: Oh, yeah! I'm in my house right nowWhat grim level of entertaining is this?
>>63387701She's married and it's already publicly known so expect antis to converge on her.
>>63387841Sapling... Stop living in the past, it's okay now...
>>63387875Kaela's only strength is being around, but she applies it to the extreme
>>63387663>Winter 2022 VersionDid you even read the green text? He said he named it that. Not cover
FUCK, they should check with management which SOAD songs they can sing on stream
>>63387073every time I see a comparison I remember when we thought she forgot to remove the filter she used on 1.0. turns out she hated it so much they made 2.0 that bright
Jailbirds getting real uppity despite this week looking to be sub 5k average for Nerissa after this raided karaoke
>>63387762You say that but watching IRyS go full instinct and shit on kids in the Mario tournament was amazing. She's also pretty entertaining at zatsus
>>63386855I still think they'll need EN4 before too long. I think demand for them will start once we hit 6 months after Advent, and ramp up quickly as it gets to a year, if there's no signs by then people might start to get mad again.Especially since they rushed out armpits so damn fast.
>>63387560Based
>>63387874should but i think biboo needed those 3 years since myth to become the gem she is
>>63387654he's a crat
>>63387875Autism for autistic people
>>63387919>>63387875Bijou and Kaela, despite both being endurance streams, really don't collab well together. If you've seen a Kaela/Kronii raft that shit's actually great.
>>63387875>Hate watching is still engagement so thanks for watching!Called out by Biboo herself last stream, which just makes this post extra funny.
>>63387872>debut 2024the fuck
>Mumei is higher than Mori 3D collabwhat happened
>>63387926Same reasoning applies to Redjuice himself, then
>>63387935Shiori sang chop suey before, do perms change that often?
kek, dogs are watching Milkyas expected
Its so boring when holoflop gets btfo Zentreya 22kIronmouse 15kKoseki flopjou 13kFloprys 6k(with buff game)
>>63387972I just think it's so perfect that Biboo pretty much designed her life purely to getting into Holo and she actually got in.
>>63388026not about perms, about which ones are bonk free
>>63387946Whatever you say, sister. Nerissa is inclining hard so just stay mad.
>>63387782There has to be. Because there will also be ARMIS2.>1 breadwinner gen per 1 subsidized gen
>>63387986Honestly yeah, Kaela's autism work well with a deadpan personality like Kronii's, rather that one that only feeds the autism to another level
>>63387958I was talking about Mumei though.
>>63387938It's so fucking funny that by like, next year, if not already now that Advent brought new blood in, there's gonna be a whole new crop of fans that will think>IRyS used to be brown, and would explicitly put a filter on her stream to make her skin look as white as she possibly couldis a bullshit urban legend
>>63388045They probably can relate to get struggle
>>63388064Yeah Biboo is literally a Cinderella story come to life. Probably one of the reasons she has a small but very angry group of seething schizos
>>63388095>>63387823Misquote
>>63388026yea didn't biboo literally sing chop suey just last weekend
Banger Coverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhzyS44r91Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhzyS44r91Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhzyS44r91I
>>63387935>>63388026Biboo literally sang it a couple days ago
Moom made it in the tally
>>63388019It's a collab with MilkyQueen, not Monarch
>>63388130they collabed pre-Holo, a fair few times
Fuck it, i want Aradia to sing duets with Gura
>2 of their genmates currently streaming>Would rather watch mori playing with her 2 view friend
>>63388064Too bad she's shit
Guys, Mumei got to 5k too ya know....?
>>63387872>Tweet on July 15th>All those replies from ruffians almost a month afterweird? why are they like this?
60K DOOORRRRYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>63387964>demand for them will start once we hit 6 months after Advent, and ramp up quickly as it gets to a year,Only the most hardcore of hardcores was EN3 begging a year after Council. It only started getting REALLY bad by like, April 2023, to the point of even outside sites and communities getting extremely antsy about it.No one (except fucking homos apparently) is ever getting the "New Gen every Six Months" approach again. Japan took two years before even tentatively approaching what could be called a new gen, EN got two years, ID is on track for two years itself before ID4 (probably like, a few weeks after VIVID ends, though).That's how it's gonna be.
>>63388026Nerissa wanted to sing violent pornography and vicinity of obscenity
>he SC'd redjuice
>>63388026Because she is only sourcing karafun instrumentals. The others mightve done prep and got a different one
>>63387654he jumped to IRyS after getting banned by like every other promise girl kek
>>63388233Mori is their oshi
>>63388269Not bad for Gura’s SUCCESSOR
>>63388203>>63388197i want them to sing songs like she likes heroine or war, not the same 2 songs
>>63388064Honestly cover hiring this literal 2view indie which ended up being the most reliably hitter in the gen (i.e. Fauna for Promise, Past Inner for Myth), and also openly said she mold her entire indie experience just to join Holo, is already a flex in itself.
>>63388281Because it the schizo deciding to sperg out today. Maybe losing all that money botting them yesterday got to them.
>>63387076There's plenty of brit accents that would work fine, even be a buff. Conversely there are also a lot that would be a debuff. I can't imagine a geordie member going down too well
>>63388096I am willing to aid in the cause with my rrat peddling jutsu>IRyS hates browns
>>63388283Where is the anon that posts the Fuwamoco soundpost when you need him?
>>63388329You'd think with all that Gura leeching she would've had a better floor by now.
fuck off demi
>>63388321>Mori is mococo's oshi
Just caught that roommate post in global how deep does the rabbit hole go
>>63387188VSPO doesn't have "lore". Their characters are just esports players but vtubers. Even their first "batches" played into it with "rival teams" between Lupinus, Iris Black etc.
>>63388281they are the doxbeats of advent
>>63388216>I love twins, BAU BAUpomu.jpg
Trying too hard man, nobody cares
>>63388398nta but
>>63388402rent free
>>63388401Most of her Gura tourists are watching Nerissa
>>63388269Oh, just kidding. Mooms is getting botted kek.
>>63388394she's perfectly fine with everyone except the roma
> (me)ah fuck, the chain quotes
>>63388354The issue with hiring 2views is that sometimes you get a biboo, other times you get a Sana or a Laplus. It's a toss up
Who ended for this funnel
>>63388471Arigatou anon kun
>>63388538jesus
>>63388538Nice worm moomster
>>63388525It's a toss up regardless of time spent before hololive. Sourse: Shiori
>Ave Maria
>>63388525Or you get a tempiss onahole like Kronii
HUSBAND MENTION OH NONONONONO!
>>63388200Its very good
>>63388401Fauna inherited Gura's strong floor, while Mumei inherited Gura's strong peak. The Gura Protegees complimenting each other to mimic their master
>>63388538Moom is heavily culled
>>63388592But shiori is good though?
>>63388550Jesus hasn’t been streaming for a while
>>63388677
>>63388606>>63388592>>63388525Hiring employees is a toss up too. You can get Shinove, or you get Omegay.>Toss ups everywhere
>>63388688He died for your CCVs!
>>63388688He does in your heart
Yeah this isn't popping off like Marine's cover
>>63388618>Gura's capacities being inherited in piecemeal by those she accepts into her foldmy God, it tracks perfectly>Mumei got Gura's peaking capacity>Fauna got Gura's floor capacity>Kronii got Gura's stream consistency capacity
>>63388538It's actually a pretty good strategy. She was being shit on here by shitposters for her low numbers, someone buys a small number of bots that's not so outrageous as to be obvious. Hoomans can deny the bots and her median and average increase.
>>63388525>Sana and Laplus Kek we know why Sana's hired and obviously it's not because of her ccvs. And Laplus was not a 2view, she's a 3view. pretty much a standard hire for majority of corpo nowadays.
>>63388712all of the posts talking about shiori are bait
>>63388712Stfu demi
6k doryaaaaaaaaa!
>>63388525was biboo also holo's first SEA chuuba too? honestly this risk paid off
>>63388757>foldGura's not morbidly obese
Hate Shiori? You're either an old friend of hers or a 2view. No, it's impossible to not like someone, you have to be a seething schizo.
>>63388773
>>63387985Is really /vt/ full of autistic people? or is just shitposting?
Why are games such a debuff for Mumei?
Too bad Gura is soft retired, I really want to see what an unculled Gura karaoke would get.
>>63388836cutie, you are not bait
>>63388833unironically pretty much dude
>>63388833Correct, sister. We love Shiori here
1k fags magically appeared out of nowhere to watch mumei's doom stream
Nerissa is getting skinwalked.....
>>63388833See it's funny to me that you conflated>Hateand>not liking someoneas being the same thing.Two very different things, but you can't conceive of them being different yourself.
If only EN3 was a year early, their existence shits on every starsen gen
>>63388789I kinda feel like you're the one who bought the bots.
Can someone explain to me why's Nerissa's karaoke numbers keep inclining so hard?
Advent is great but they are still missing a crucial thing for EN which is they don't have any events planner/organizer.Promise got the best gen chemistry for EN by a mile.Myth as a whole got good variety but what stands out the most is they can organize/plan events quite well.Honestly EN is in good shape rn but still missing the Gura/Ame events to reach their full potential.
>>63388884h-hot
>>63388833>I'm not a schizo, I'm not a schizo, I insist as I seethe like a schizo whenever shiori is mentioned
>Mori losing viewers>Mumei gains viewersbasado
>>63388896Confidence in her own singing ability helped a lot.
>>63388749>200k gain in a dayNot bad, especially compared to her other music
>>63388064She won the lottery, nothing more and nothing less. There are hundreds out the that'd be just as good if not better.
>>63388896KNEEL BEFORE NEAL
https://twitter.com/lieverse_liars/status/1728971913244848130Lieverse...
>>63388896She started having fun and being less of a perfectionist.
>>63388896unculled 16k + 5k Fauna raid
>>63388896She’s getting better, but she also got a decent raid and is only going up against Bijui
>>63388896>Stream 1: strong overlap and a themed karaoke for a literally fucking who band that no one knows about except her>Stream 2: also overlapped decently, I believe, but growing for Halloween>Stream 3: Low overlap (even got raided!), much more confidence, songs that are known by other human beings
>>63388962Da fuck
>>63388712He's right though
Everyone being gay that nobody wanted to acknowledge that HoloEN are pushing close, or clearing 30k+ combined ccv with regularity now post-cull/long CCVID cleanse. That's basically what a day involving Gura would look like back in 2021, when HoloEN were on top of the world
>>63388940If it was any other song other than loli kami I would agree with you but those are not great numbers for the greatest viral vtuber song we've ever seen
>>63388896By being an actually good singer unlike OverratedRyS
>>63388896Nerissa anti's are so sad. They cry about her superchats then she gets superchats. They cry about her karaoke numbers then she gets great karaoke numbers. Actually pathetic human beings.
>>63388962lmao even a project promised by IPO is cancelled
>>63388984She hit 17.9k on her own though with two streams overlapping
>random shiori seethe when she hasn't even been online all day
>>63388940Other music?
>>63388947Keep telling yourself that every time you get rejected by Cover, jealous sister.
>>63388962QUICK SCROUNGE UP ALL THE POSTS ABOUT LIEVERSE LASTING LONGER THAN HOLOEARTH
Seriously though what the fuck is this
>>63389035It's only manga being canceledLN is still alive, I think
>>63388900They need more organizer types, it's fucking sad that Mori/Kiara are still the main organizers for EN after 3 years.
What triggered the IRySschizo now
>>63388953Why is every fucking CEO from a tech company a pajeet now?
>>63389094Just wait for the worm
>>63388900Advent's "gen unity" is better than Promise. All 5 of Advent talk to each other, have fun, and say they love each other openly constantly.When people talk about Promise unity, they always forget Kronii and Bae.Advent also planned their own Halloween event with their collective audience and will probably do something similar for Christmas.
>>63389009Box growth achievedThe box is now Gura-level without Gurawhat a fucking wild world
>>63389094guess who's stream ended
>making love with youthat you? yeah me, i won the sister set
>>63388962Kek, expected to a project that was created literally as a knee-jerk counter product to HoloAlt.
>>63389094She absorb mori and biboo viewers
>>63388962The comic performed so badly that the manga publisher dropped them.
>>63389139>Promise unity>BaeAm I missing something? Bae is super unity.
Weirdly no wave but this definitely doesn't look genuine lol unless the verification wipe is THIS strong but no one even ended whatsoever so idk what's happening here
>>63388892since JP culture linked Vtubing to anime there will always be a recency bias. Unless you were phenomenally popular like Gura you'll always be outshined by the new kid in town just like advent are right now.
>>63388972unironically this, this karaoke has been a lot of fun
>>63389094The bitter might be up to something again.It's all so tiresome...
>>63389034OHHHH I'M SO MAD AT NERISSA RAVENCROFTLOOK AT HOW SHITTY SHE ISSHE ISN'T EVEN HAVING SEX WITH ME RIGHT NOW, SEE HOW SAD THAT ISBOY I HOPE FATE DOESN'T INTERVENE TO PROVE ME WRONG THAT WOULD MAKE ME SOOOOOOO MAD
>>63388962I still don't know what this is (was) supposed to be
>>63388962HoloAlt didn't fare much better in the end.
>>63389094either funnels or IMfag's today botting target. We'll know later anyway.
>>63389115Because SUPERPOWER 2030 BABY
>>63388288That's not true. People were expecting EN 3 but then for many casual/outsiders we got 'en3', until that all impoloded and even they were unhappy with how that went. People outside of here were calling for EN3 much earlier then that they'd just get shouted down, by people who were still calling it too early when Advent were announced. So antis basically.The shorter turnaround for EN4 would just make up for the extra long gap between 2 and 3, and they'd just have to frame it like that and maybe cater to different timezones a bit more.
>>63389269Nothing ended though.
>>63389248NIJICOPE
>>63389269Funnels from WHERE, not a single JP, EN, ID, NijiEN, HomoEN has ended their stream
>>63389197he is intentionally comparing promise fan unity to advent talent unity
>>63389101Crazy that Ina is the only one for Myth that don't organize anything for EN til she did one this year IIRC.
>>63388962>Nijisis getting hit by karma 2 days in a rowRoru, what did you do.
>>63389139yeah one of aspect that could be an improvement is someone stepping up and extend their hands to organize branch-wide event. Biboo is working on it i suppose.
>>63389330wait what's the first one
>>63389200I mean, it's clearly not bots, or at the VERY least, it's not the faggot and is something entirely different.You guys sure she didn't just, like, start the game or something? Or get to a good level?
>>63388896The "nowhere to go but up" strategy.
>>63388962Brace yourselvesdamage control is coming
>>63386678Not a vtuber
>>63387525>giveThey pick their own songs for HoloFes
>>63389094People earlier on the thread were making fun of her numbers so guess what happened
>>63389307>>63389315That's why we'll know it later anyway, the guy pretty much always use the same kind of bots so you can just eyeball the graph.
>>63389315>doesn't know
>>63388064Biboo is not an Idol, can't sing, dance , perform or act. she just play video games and say googoogaga nigga
>>63389315>>63388550
>>63389384It hasn't waved yet when it already should have if it's the same guy
>>63388833I just think she's retarded and not fun to watch.
>>63389142There was honestly a point in my life where I thought, should Gura ever graduate prematurely, that EN vtubing as a whole would just die. I thought that for a time, she was so above and beyond the rest of her peers and everything in life revolved around her that it'd be a blow more devastating than anything Coco's graduation did.Truly a wild world where we can say that holoEN is literally doing just fine even without the biggest vtuber in the world. The lack of her existence is felt, but these girls are seriously putting on a show
Top 10
>>63388962It's so oger...
>>63389292>for many casual/outsiders we got 'en3',I don't think fucking anyone except the most beggar of beggars considered them "EN3" in reality, anon. They were always separate, even for normalfags, because even CCV shows that "the casual Vtuber audience" treats them separately.
>>63389345She started a rune trial i thinkWhich always results in incline while walking to destination results in recline
>>63389341Vox sister meltdown I'm guessing?They had a mascot plagiarism thing a few days back as well.
>>63388962Aia, is the eating still good?
>>63389341I think it was vox.
>>63389398>Can't danceYou could make your jealous seethe post less obvious. Maybe wait until they get 3D and actually dance on stream first.
MUMEI IS PISSING IN HELL
>>63388930Mori is shit, that's all there is to it.
>>63389491>>63389501I missed this, brb dumpster diving
>>63389398Fauna isn't an idol either. She's just a larper. Yet people praise her here despite her numbers being shit compared to advent
So, who else is thinking Gura's pulling out a 30k+ stream tomorrow? I can feel it in my bones...
>>63388962
>>63389547Just see >>63352651>>63357114
>>63389330Reminds me of that time when they pushed that Raden and Kanade was feuding and Raden was stealth suspended only for another graduation dropped right away.
Nerissa should sing the Skibidi Rap
>Mumei going afk>Numbers dropped to 200>Fucking stays there the entire time and actually climbs upYeah no fuck off
>>63389436>without the biggest vtuber in the world.lets just nip this bud off of already. Gura's only notable metric is that she's the most subbed vtuber. Subs are probablt the most worthless metric and she has a swamp of dead subs. Its by far a better clami to say Marine or Suisei is a bigger vtuber than her globally
>>63387692And then start to fall in love with her because new good, old bad.
>>63389612nice thanks
>>6338959625 take it or leave it
>>63389101>Mori/KiaraRetard. What has Mori organized? Ame is the one that organized things.
>>63389628Yeah she started climbing at 5k and then the top peaked a little over 6k, someone probably bought 1k bots.
>>63389628*dropped by 200
>>63389596It's an #AD right a lot are allergic with those kind of streams IIRC.
>>63389616they keep farming bad karma
>>63389596Sub 10k. It's ogre.
>>63389596delusional chumpedo
>>63388900Shiori's autism seems to make her a good behind the scenes organizer/planner but it doesn't seem like she has any interest in planning events/collabs with anyone outside of advent
>>63389398Didn't she soft confirm that she wouldn't get 3D or do idol stuff like Fauna or did I just misremember? It doesn't matter if she's an idol.
>>63389398Hate to burst your bubble, but there are multiple JP Holos who can't sing or dance, or couldn't for a long time, but no one will claim that they aren't idols.
>>63389596If anyone's expecting anything less than 30k for a sponsored shill stream FOR JAPAN? And also her return stream?? You're insane.If it was just a normal return stream I'd say 20k at most but a shill stream is going to be gangbusters. I want to even bet my balls on 40k
>>63389693A.) It’s Gura, and B.) We really don’t have a big enough sample size to know how it all affects things.I have so little idea how chumbuds as a whole think I don’t think I’d be surprised if they still showed up to watch or if it actually went below 25k.
>>63389628>>63389682niggas we know what the bots look likeUnless you wanna say there's a SEPARATE, COMPLETELY UNRELATED botfag using completely different farms running on a completely undetected network or something, what are you thinking?
>>63389628>Numbers dropped to 200Nigga what? Lowest I saw was 6.3k.
>>63389802See >>63389689
>>63389452They had decent ccv early, for like the first month.There were enough of the casual audience, at least initially, that were content or at least saw it as them needing to wait a bit and give them breathing room before debuting even more EN members.Obviously all that fell apart, for pretty much the whole audience over time
>>63389786>A.) It’s GuraGura is no longer the buff you think she is
>>63389790>What are you thinkingThat when someone goes afk, and when she's gone afk before, it didn't fucking drop by 200 people and then climb back up as she was afk. Especially when there's a fucking karaoke you can tab into
>>63389398Saying googoogaga nigga is the most important part of becoming an idol. Only Miko, Kiara and maybe Mori are idols.
>>63388811ethnically she's sea but it's not like that matters for people that have grown up 100% in AmericaThe flips in NijiEN and Armis are literal flips that stream in flip time
>>63388618Faumei should do a duet in a 3D live then do the fusion dance and turn into Gura for the next song
>>63389757Biboo's last stream she was actually talking about being excited for 3D as well as doing more Idol stuff.
>>63389837New Honeyworks orisong status?
>>63389837When was the last time HoloEN got a legitimate 30k stream?
>>63389786your shitposting sucks a lot and whats worse is that you are doing it in the numbers thread
HoloEN enjoy their Weekend today
>>63389902It's years away if it happens at all.
Women really love that song huh?
>>63389902Too bad Cover would rather give gokishit their hundredth sub-30k 3D stream than give a single EN a 3D live
>>63389961im not a woman... i like the band
Gura is hitting 50k tomorrow.
>>63388896The smiths one was in unironic overlap hell. No idea what she was thinking for that one
>>63389757They advertise HoloEN auditions with the promise of doing idol shit.
>>63389939>>63389972Oh I forgot the other side of the world is starting to wake up, forgive me for saying anything about the EN branch at these hours.
>>63389902Good luck. Atleast Kiara will help push for her wishes.
>two unmarried women singing about how the bride is a filthy whore who probably fucks other men>while their married sister is busy getting impregnated again in the basement
What's with incline when mumei is killingWhereas as soon as she stops the growth either stagnant or recline
>>63389009the box actually peaked over 50k the other day
>11/27 TEMP EN YTxTW DAILY TALLY21,572: Zentreya (Vshojo)21,192: Nerissa Ravencroft (Hololive)13,445: Ceres Fauna (Hololive)8,725 : FUWAMOCO (Hololive)7,457 : Koseki Bijou (Hololive)6,607 : Nanashi Mumei (Hololive)6,274 : Ninomae Ina'nis (Hololive)
>>63390035She puts out a schedule and they dropped their relay on top of it.
Gura is hitting 100k tomorrow.
>>63390045>two
>>63390045>two unmarried womenbro...
>>63390045>while their married sister is busy getting impregnated again in the basementBy me btw
>>63390045anerissa is married to me
Nerissa and her sister is so kino
>>63390037Most of the people they have don't want to do that sort of thing. Mumei dreads it and Fauna said she doesn't want to do it anymore.
>>63390065Are you dense? Post the day.
>>63390045>two>he doesn't watch streams
Help, i can't unhear Kronii in Anerissa
This is my first time actually watching (listening to in the background) a Kaela and Koseki collab and it's cute. I can't peg if Kaela is giving off older sister or older cousin (or aunt??) vibes but I like it.
So are we going to forgive Nerissa for having Kiara as an oshi when she's a singer?
>>63389139>When people talk about Promise unity, they always forget Kronii and Bae.This is a real threadreader opinion, especially Bae.You could make some argument about Kronii because she isn't around as much but when she is the unity between them all is strong
>>63389820That first month's CCV was 100% built off of three things:>One: they had yet to fuck up>Two: novelty as "THE FIRST EVER HOLOSTARS ENGLISH GROUP" pushing them strong>Three: EN being actually fucking dead that month as a result of multiple IRL meetups and complicationsIt worked out for them, but by removing the Third and First pillars, they cratered. And no other gen will ever get the Second pillar.
1k$ super chat damn
>>63390046hoomans are addicted to blood.
>>63390045Based
>>63390172Anerissa is far sexier than Kronii
>>63390172Wut? her accent and cadence are different
>>63390096>>63390102>>63390119>>63390152IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
>>63390172>smol milf kroniigod i wish
>>63389916Kiara family feud, not even that long ago.
>>63390186We love Kiara here.
>>63390185It's the most genuine mother/daughter vibe in holo, Biboo's daughter vibes bounce off the hardest around Kaela.
>>63390259This but unironically.
>>63390186Is Kiara a bad singer or what? Also no, Nerissa is KFP which instantly puts her in the shitlist.
>>63390199People need to suggest gladiator for holo watchalong.
Raiding Moom!
>Raiding MumeiBASED BASED BASED
gn /#/
>>63388962Any Quick Rundown for this?and.... what is this
>best karaoke to date>no clipsWord of mouth is still gonna keep her karaoke numbers up, but damn talk about limiting yourself
>>63390348Nijisanji's answer to Holoalt
nice
>>63390348Its their voiced manga/light novel shit they announced to compete with Holoalt
>>63390354People will clip regardless.
>>63390399nice
>karaoke raid>this latethe bleed is gonna be rough
>>63388962>Lie:verse Liars>Is actually a lieWHAT THE FUCK ? Oh well at least it's the most lore accurate shit from Nijisanji
>>63390354the clips of gura's karaokes ruined her numbers tho
>>63390254There was no 50k box on that day. What are you on about?
Absolutely legal and natty 10k for Mumei
>>63390310It would be a good Moom movie, unironically. One of the hooman's should suggest it next sc
Didn't mumei starting karaoke got tons of clips or Am i misremembeing ?
>>63390348*wasniji livers giving live to manga-esque characters, presumably to counter holo's holo alternative
>green whore getting fucked Good
>>63390399
>>63390408I don't know, clippers are surprisingly respectful about Mumei's wishes when she doesn't want a karaoke clipped. At least the more popular karaoke clippers are
>>63390459AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>63386995AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IT'S TODAY IT'S TODAY
>>63390459pottery
>>63390417For sure not gonna be ideal, but probably not much better to send it to if you're gonna send it to anyone.
12k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>63390348>Not even here since last yearHoly shit the fucking state of /#/
MOOMS 12K
The most surprising raid retention was when ruffians stayed for mumei doom
Final Rissa #'s
And this is why you don't need that worthless bitch Fauna. Graduate her already, her numbers are shit.
>17k raid >+6k viewersexplain
14K DORYAAAAAAAAAAA!
>>63390548Holy shit Nerissa ticked 2k subs?
>>63390564I closed the tab before the redirect
>>63390564>moom playing gamesi closed that shit as soon as it redirected me
>>63390146https://vrabi.net/labo/progress/2023-11-19There
>>63390564Raids are never 100% because some people have autoplay turned off which turns raids into a recommendationAlso it's more like 9k
>>63390535Hellhounds want blood.Hoomans crave blood.Together they will sacrifice.
>>63390564People just don't like Mumei
how's november EN final tally predictions looking between FWMC biboo and fauna
December is the grimmest month last year for EN IIRC they lost to NijiEN last december will be interesting to see how EN will do this year with Advent.
>>63390524I'm always curious what gets people to click on this thread. Theoretically, 4chan tourists should be scared of us, board regulars should hate us.
>Mori's suit dies 30 minutes into the collab>The past hour has basically been a solo milky stream while mori fumbles with her suit in the background
>14k with a gigadebuff gameAnd THIS is why Mumei is by far the strongest Promise member.
>fauna knocked off the podium with an illegal raid
>>63390591Oh seems soI had 503k on holodex
>>63390630Turning autoplay off doesn't kill raids entirely, just as an FYIIf you have autoplay off, but you're in fullscreen mode when the raid pops, you still get sent. Mostly. Most of the time.
>>63390564embeds and >>63390630 can ruin most of the raids
Mumei...
>>63390663EN curse, am I right, fellas? No amount of experience can stop it!
>>63390564Bots don’t transfer
>>63390663there's a reason Mori has low stream numbers, her tech knowhow is equal to that of Rushia
>>63390636*cums*
CGDCT total victory KANPA-IIII
>>63390663>it's another, "mori fucked up a collab" episode
Next week I'll be a wizard, is this common among Holofans or am I the exception?
>>63390670Nah she's got bronzeFuwamoco got knocked off sadly
>>63390616>one is not like the others
>>63389494She meant NIjiEN and she was saying the truth as lot of content came in November alone, she was talking next 3 to 4 for months. And JP unrelated to this Aia comment had a shit ton of good stuff happening
>>63390428It was the 19th:>>63390616
>>63390591Yeah, she’s catching up to the dogs (off by ~500) this week (last 7days that is), Bijou falling back (was at ~5k now at 3), and Shiori still at 2k
Why can’t Mumei go a single stream without either being a raidbabby or a botbabby?
I CANT BELIEVE MUMEI CHEATS
yab mumei using console commands
>>63390690>Most of the time
>>63390748>Twins can got those numbers with overlapping and no raidsDamn, the most powerful of advent
>>63390448Holo invented the concept of mixed media used in Japan for 30 years...
>>63390720Yeah, on me
>>63390758The AR live is back on I bet. This time it won't be cancelled in 2 weeks.
>>63390817>no raidsRetard
>>63390649I don't think they'll lose to NijiEN this year, just a prediction
>>63389292Anyone got that pic of that reddit beggar going “nah we’re good” to the discussion of an EN3 early in December before Tempoop was teased, then going “YAY MORE BOIS” when Tempoop was announced?
>>63390649That is what happens when Mori and Bae were the only consistent EN streamers last December
>>63390817>Saying that about the one karaoke they did that literally got raided.Awkward
>>63390842Covid
LMAO also mumei is already below fauna's peak 5 minutes post raid
>>63390663Mori is so fucking retarded jesus
Question for you all, /#/, checking in on a hypothesis.How many of you have oshihen'd? Don't need to know who,or why, but if you want to say, that's fair, too.
>>63390742My friend who is a holofan is a wizard. It is what it is.I'm a nijichad so I wouldn't know how that is, but he seems content for now.
>>63390973This happened to the last person who got raided past Fauna. It's always gonna be this way.
roru
>>63391007It’s going to happen any time a big stream raids a stream that would have capped sub 8
I was honestly expecting a much worse bleed pattern for the circumstances, desu, midnight on a Sunday from a Karaoke to a game stream and it's only dipping at this speed?
>>63390245This remind me of a doujin, getting a titjob from a short stack in a train.
>>63390990I dunno if I count, but I was mainly watching Subaru and clips of everyone else before I settled on my oshi, Aloe. Subaru isnt bad or anything, except for being a filthy liar.
>>63391095Lmao true imagine being a karaoke tourist and getting raided to a girl playing doom
>>63390990I oshihen'd from Fauna to BibooIt was more of a content reason, but I've also enjoyed watching Biboo improve and being recognized by other members
>>63390651Here's the dirty little secret about this board that you've gotta understandPeople actually love seeing numbers. It's INGRAINED in our silly monkey brains to be aware of and care about numbers, and anyone who says otherwise is a DIRTY ROTTEN LIAR. It's thus unsurprising that /#/ ends up with a lot of tourists
>>63391095I love the arbitrary qualifiers and acting like a nosedive is a virtue. Kronii gets made fun of though
cant be worse than this right
>>63388962>Niji lie: verse: liars As expected from Kuro ZhangSanji
>>63391095Nigga it's still going down. Wait 30 minutes before you post about "It's not bleeding that bad"
man, i would really like a holo disney karaoke... sad
>>63391146>arbitrary qualifiersniggas out here saying context is arbitrary
>>63390871Funny enough I think one of their more recent comments got posted here, seems they had a bit of a change of heart. Actually refering to them as holoEN and StarsEN and being kinda anti begging since it seems the girls aren't really interested in collabs and its better to leave it.
>>63390651it's the go to tread to push an agenda because global will tell you to fuck off if you're too obvious
>>63390990>oshihenI did. Was a "Tako", moved on to Fauna because I felt more comfortable with her, her humor, her content choices, and I was already growing "distant" from Ina even before she debuted. Like shortly after Hollow Knight there was something that just didn't feel right about Ina anymore. And that's when I realized I wasn't invested enough to stick through to see it really get better, which is why I said "Tako". Meanwhile even with this whole puddle arc shit I'm miserable but I'm willing to stick it out because I have a feeling things will get better, it already feels that way after her Deltarune brainrot.
>>63390990Can't say that I was a deadbeat, but she's probably the 2nd holo that I used to watch the most on the first year of Myth. Pretty much only watch her if it's collabs now after her infamous "I can't talk about it, but I wouldn't stop you from talking" first twitch stream
>>63391213It is fucking arbitrary. Midnight on a Sunday? Dipping at this speed? What speed? What's a good and a bad speed? Fucking retard.
>>63388962>https://twitter.com/lieverse_liars/status/1728971913244848130tourists had forgotten about it
>>63391186I think even raids to Kiara looks much better than this
>>63390973>>63391007Fauna get's stonger with bigger peaks which leads to a bigger box and bigger raids to knock her down the podium. It is what it is
>>63391316Why are you downplaying the fact that Nerissa beat Fauna's CCV even before the raid.
>>63390990Went from Ame to no one for reasons you can guessHaven't found anyone that compares but I watch Fauna the most nowadays
>>63390990Kronii is and will ever be my oshi
>>63391316Nah fauna is like pekora high floor low ceiling.
>>63391391This is bait.
>>63390990Yeah I did
>>63391311At least there's content to consume when they remember.Can't say the same about holo alt. Bazinga!
>>63391283>Midnight on a Sundayimportant because a lot people get the weekends off, and thus would be more liable to just go to bed late at night on a Sunday compared to other nights, like Friday and Saturday. Let alone the school/college population.>dipping at this speed? what speed?The angle of the bleed. Most bleeds have a vector that they follow, and follow it consistently. Compare Mumei's to >>63391186 and you'll see what I mean.
>>63391372When is it a point of pride that an unarchived karaoke beats a regular stream?
>>633899393Ds are usually 6 months after debut. Advent will get theirs in February.
>>63391387go back to minecraft Kaela
>>63390990I have no oshi anymore. I just feel like viewers aren't respected in the current climate.
>>63390990I don't remember there being spoilers on this board
>>63391144Everyone loves numbers.Unless they get bad numbers. Then they don't want to talk about numbers anymore. Or if the culture is inoculated against numbers in general.Proof: I am a New England Patriots fan and can attest to this phenomenon first-hand
>>63391450Let's see Fauna's last unarchived karaoke
>>63390990I wouldn't say I oshihenned exactly. I've always felt like I'm more of a Hakooshi for EN. But the girl I used to watch and support the most isn't the same one as the ones I do now. Even though I still really like herI won't go into too much detail, but advent all being very affectionate to their fans kind of made me reprioritize what I look for in a chuuba
>>63391467they must go to JP first
>>63391450You clearly never saw Fauna's karaoke...
>>633915001. It was before the waiting room changes2. She can't singDon't be fucking ridiculous
no biboo tomorrow, just said it on stream
>>63391486I definitely decreased my “investment” after the third Tempus wave
>>63391450When people were predicting her to only get 10k?
>>63391490>___________fuck off
Nerissa shouldn't be allowed to have family members on stream.
>>63391531Wow, actually literally moving goalposts. Not even being ironic about it. That's very funny.
>>63391531Copeling...
>>63391543Anyone predicting only 10k is a braindead fucking moron tourist
>>63390990I could not bring myself to do it, everIf I call a girl my oshi, it mean I will support her through thick and thin. If I dropped her because of some dumbass reason or drama, it mean she was never meant to be my oshi in the first place
>>63391538Even if you take out the entire Tempus debacle it's very clear there is a very low level of respect for the viewers. Partly because they tolerated stalkers and psychopaths for so long for another buck, and partly because they just do not care.
>>63391500Again, an unarchived karaoke losing to a regular stream is terrible, beating it should be a given. Good for Nerissa for doing what’s expected
>>63391445You don't know who is watching. HoloEN does not have a prime time. The audience base of HoloEN is global. That's why Mumei can and has done random karaokes at nighttime JST and still do well. Measure the angle of this cock bend. I think Mumei's angle is also shit. How about that?
>>63391533What's even the point of waking up on Mondays anymore?
>>63390990i dropped my oshi for fauna because low numbers, if fauna drops then i jump into the new one with high numbers
>>63390990I loved my Oshi when I found her. I still love her now. I'll love her till she's gone. Probably after that too.
>>63391579No, I didn't. They are literally apples and oranges at this point with the waiting room changes. And regardless of that you faggots made fun of Fauna for an entire fucking day for it.
>>63391605What if she started doing the things that were antithetical to being an oshi? It's not a freebie. Having fans is something you earn and protect.
>>63391372I don't think you know what the word downplaying means anon
>>63391632shork return tomorrow at least
>>63391631Based and correct answer
>>63391631Then drop that whore because advent and even Mumei gets better numbers
>>63391631Sadly, many do this. Many started with Gen 2 and jumped ship to gen 3. Its a cycle, just like with seasonal waifus.
>>63391211>Kunai 4viewnani
>>63391672fuwamoco still play debuff games so i still gonna be with fauna for some time
>>63391649Relax Sapling, you don't need to suck Fauna's dick this hard.
>>63391609What bothers me more is the lack of respect for the talents. They have a couple of seriously creative people in their group, a couple motivated grinders, some talent, and they basically just left them to play video games. It’s fun to watch the idols play video games and talk about their lives but I’m here for songs, lives, 3D, that sort of thing. And I think some of the girls were actually looking for that kind of audience at the beginning.
Which talent likes pickled vegetables?
So why did nerrisa karaoke performed better than her last one?
>>63391515Actual brainless retard
>>63391631Hi Ruffian
>>63391727why not.
>>63391704Mumei is a raidbaby, Fauna gets higher natural numbers
>>63391440At least it isn't dead.Can't say the same about lie verse. Bazinga!
How do we save EN male vtubing?
>>63391769Fauna needed a raid for 10k today, she's no different
>>63391630Mumei’s audience is normally awake around those hours, they’re used to being awake for her. Nerissa streams earlier, so there’s probably a chunk of them going to bed now.
>>63391719It's over now. Before, when they were smaller, talent was tolerated because it led to profit. But, after corporatization, the steamroller known as "policy" rolled through and squashed everything into a nice flat "profit safe" mainstream cookie cutter factory of streams. You can flip between each one and they're the same now, not because the girls are the same, but because they're restricted in what they can say and do.Everyone sees it. All the talents complain about it.
>>63391727Better timing?
>the repliesthat's fair, and though it isn't universal at all, it does point towards what I was assuming: It felt like this thread is more likely to have people who have oshihen'd than other threads like global or nijiEN, for examples.I assume that's also just a byproduct of the thread culture not being specifically about a company/group and supporting it (despite, you know, the obvious biases that naturally developed), so there's no strong stigma against admitting to oshihen compared to other ones, so long as it isn't being described in an overly callous way.To be fair, I could be going through this with a lens of bias myself. I definitely have, at one point, oshihen'd, even though it was less of "dropping a girl for another" and more "strongly preferring one girl over others, until my oshi debuted and I understood the MASSIVE difference between 'girl you like more than others' and 'girl you oshi.'" But it does seem to be true, even despite the possible bias I'm looking at it with.
>>63391805Myth...
>>63391727Bots
>>63391727reimu buff
>>63391533>>63391632You know, pebblephiles, I wasn't hot on Bijou Koseki at first. Didn't hate her or anything either, but didn't think our age range was compatible. But she makes Kaela laugh. She's a good girl.I have gradually warmed up to each advent girl, either from their fans or them collabing with a girl I do like.Except Nerissa. Haven't watched her yet still. Don't watch that much Nijisanji in general.
>>63391727fauna buff
just comparing inside advent, is it biboo with high floor and fwmc with the high ceiling?
>>63391829>, even though it was less of "dropping a girl for another" and more "strongly preferring one girl over others, until my oshi debuted and I understood the MASSIVE difference between 'girl you like more than others' and 'girl you oshi.'"Yeah this is basically what happened to me too.
>>63391727Could be the result of positive word going around about her previous one.
>>63391211
>>63391805Stop forcing it. It has a very low ceiling, and always will. But its natural growth is now hampered by bullshit, which led to stigmatization. Now it can't even reach its own ceiling.
>>63391704Fauna can survive without raids
>>63391811t.retard that doesn't know that the holocaust caused by the nijifaggots made them this way out of necessity
>>63391872yeah, biboo is the fauna of advent
>>63391804she get 10002 before raid, you loose this one
>>63390990I WISH I could oshihen but I am physically incapable of un-oshi-ing Gura
>>63391872Biboo is fauna of adventWhile fuwamoco are mumei of advent
>>63391902I did know about it. Doesn't change what I said. At all. And it wasn't about Niji, it was about YouTube freaking out over advertising.And for the record, HOLOLIVE COMPLETELY FUCKING BOTCHED THEIR RESPONSE.
>>63391872Biboo is like FaunaHigh floor but low ceilingThey're steady and stable
>>63391805Have we tried just not doing that?It might be for the best
Kiara is still my oshi but it feels like her arc is over with the album release and no 3D live coming. I don’t see her recording another one.
>>63391906That was literally the start of the raid retard
>>63391842rent free
>>63391983>and no 3D live comingYou're not a KFP
>>63391902>>63391954Oh, and it was also about the fucking game companies being Jew fucks about permissions. THAT was the second bullshit line. (Which Hololive ALSO fucking completely mismanaged.)Doesn't change anything I said, though.
>>63391804Fauna also doesn't become a complete shitter without raids unlike Mumei
>>63391829>'girl you like more than others' and 'girl you oshi.'I understand those who oshi the box but people who have "muliple" oshis don't have any for this reason.
>>63391727Who cares Mumei/gura/IRyS has better karaoke # within one year of their debuts compared to nerissaIt would only matter if she can keep her karaoke # above 15k
>>63391983>Kiara: Fine, I'll do it myself.Watch streams.
>>63391807You're making up shapes to fit into imaginary holes. Like how is "Mumei's audience normally awake around those hours" when she rarely streams at those hours?
>>63392008You’re right, I ended my membership when a-chan called jurard a holotori. I don’t want to pay cover any money any more so I’m not really a “KFP”. They still aren’t planning on giving her a 3D live though.
>>63392051If you're going to compare 2021 numbers to today just to cope about how mad you are that people watched Nerissa you already lost.
>>63391915Want me to drill a little hole in your brain? Lobotomy. Is a very safe and well respected medical procedure. Done every day all over the world.
>>63392020She wouldn't have even gotten 7k without Shiori or Fuwamoco raids in her shittertale streams
does any site have historical data on ccv averages for smaller corpo vtubers and some indies i watched ive noticed something with them they have raised across the board but i havent seen a similar raise in the hololive girls or niji vtubers on youtubers i have a theory but i would like help
>>63391445I'm a hooman and I think your comparison of the graph is a bit wrong. The reason why Kronii's graph looks steep is due to the x-axis (time) being more compact, whereas Mumei's graph is more spread out. It's 7-hour graph vs 2-hour graph.That being said, (I'm eyeing this part) Mumei only appears to lost 35% of the raid in 30 mins, whereas Kronii lost 50% in 30 mins. So yes, you're right about it not bleeding as fast as Kronii's.
>>63392094She didn't need raids for most of those, Mumei needs raids on the regular to prevent herself from being sub 6k
>>63391746goodbye subhuman
>>63391872>>63391904>>63391936>>63391960What they said. Ina, Fauna, now Bijou are the stable, solid, sturdy members of their gens. Different styles but the same role in the gen
Guys remember when hololive had soul. Where did the soul go, bros. They got no soul. Sad. You know, Yagoo called me the other day and told me I had the most soul he'd ever seen! Wanted me to take over his company but I told him I'm too busy working on lieverse.
>>63392083>something non-Holotori said pissed you off so you quit the bird oshi who doesn't engage homosHmmmm.
>>63392162>asian>white>asianEN4 fauna's will be another white woman
>>63392220Nah a brown fauna for en4
>>63392087>doctor António Egas Moniz invented lobotomiesOf course you're brown.
>>63392023I think it depends. If you have like 15 oshi marks in your twitter handle then yeah obviously you don't really have an oshi, but if you have like 3 girls you like over the rest and buy all their merch and support them above others, I don't really see how you can't claim that there person doesn't have multiple oshi. When they're putting money where their mouth is I think that counts for something
>>63392094She hit 8k before the fwmc raid and inclined 3k above the Shiori raid peak.7k would have still beaten every other deltarune stream besides 1 Koryori stream
>>63392162Funny how they all share the same trait/timeslot of being the first ones to start in their gens. It's almost like there's a correlation there and anons who attributed Faun's incline to her slot were correct all this time
>>63392210nta, but if you don't wish to financially support Cover's recent decisions, nor support roommate exodus, what options do you actually have aside from dropping out?
Fauna is a dogshit hire and you fags fellating her when she got beat twice today is fucking baffling
>>63392023They just don't know how it really feels to have an oshi, I do feel sorry for them sometimes but it is how it is, no harm no foul.But when you get "an oshi," you fucking KNOW. For me, at least, it was impossible to not know. Even just on her debut stream, before it was even over, I was pretty much feeling electric shocks rock my body just watching her. Like, not even hyperbole, actual shocks going from my spine all the way out to my toes, full-body "Oh she's DIFFERENT" feelings running through me.When you find your oshi, she just hits you different.
>>63392194holosoul songs when?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j0J7CZvugk
>>63392220>flat>premium medium>flat*
>>63392023Sometimes you just find two girls who tick the same boxes for you.In my case it's Aqua and Mumei.
>>63392066Because she normally streams later than Nerissa, and she has a reputation for guerrilla karaokes in the middle of the night. It only sounds made up if you ignore basic shit like that.
>>63392317Mumei Is your oshi right?
>>63392317How erect did you get during her first stream and how long did it last
>>63392312I mean, if the pro-idol girls are quit on because of some stupid shit some male said, Cover isn't going to think, "Oh, idol girls are being quit," they're going to think, "Idols don't make money, more mens!"
>>63392358nope, she's just cute and I want to fuck her really badly
>>63386855I feel like Armpiss is trying to invite vitriol again by being the objective worst fucking Cover hires to date. It’s like they rely on seething to remain relevant.
>>63392087I assume you're talking about a frontal lobe lobotomy right? My attraction towards Gura is more like an animal instinct that I am trying to suppress, a lobotomy would only prevent me from fighting the urge to obsess over her 24/7, as far as my high school biology knowledge of the brain goes anyway. So no I don't think that would help.
Try as they might they will never separate the homoerotic bond saplings and hoomans have
>>63391829Fwiw, part of why I like /#/ and never really could jive with global as much is precisley because I feel global is way too hugboxxyIt's not like I want an anti thread or something, but I also want a thread where you can go "Hey I think ina's content has been kind of shit recently" and not just get immediately hugboxxed down
>>63392382nigger, pass your shit through some grammar check before you reply, I honestly can't graps your point
So has anything interesting happened during the biboo collab? feel like it's completely flown under the radar even mori's stream has been discussed more
>>63392388Hater watchers are more dedicated than any of the sisters hoenstly
>>63392107vstats has decent selection if you dig a bit.Otherwise, some anon had a comparison month to month for idol and phase a while back, from when idol dropped their second gen. Might be able to archive dive for small copro chart or something. unless another anon has it
>>63392401Take it to your discord please, don't make it this blatant everytime
>>63392401i go to global and the homoerotics are the teamates with hoomans tho
>>63392330>Fauna>premium mediumThis is medium, not whatever Fauna is.
>>63392401>homoeroticFuck off with that, though I agree that this angle is retarded.
>>63392317I miss this feeling
>>63392416Yeah but too bad it invites retards and antis who think they have a pass to go wild here since the jannies don't watch this thread as much
>>63392432>grapsargument invalid
>>63392432Fuck off brownie. I'm not writing a college essay you can translate in Google to respond to. Learn conversational English or fuck off.
>>63392391That's rough, buddy. I like her too, but fortunately don't oshi her.I hope her shill stream will be fun. Hopefully she does something for Xmas. And then new years. That's at least three streams coming up..
>>63392382good I hope yagoo gets HIV from them. Not my problem any more
>>63392460Those are larping femanons.
>>63392464>nerfed bae's 3d tits>buffed fauna's 3d tits
>>63392438Bijou gets decent numbers, but she’s literally an afterthought, paradoxically irrelevant
>>63392438It's one of those long monotone Kaela marathon collabs. They get tiring to me honestly since there's not much to talk about and it's background noise content at most
>>63392312>just eat your veggies. you're only making it difficult for yourself. And your oshi.Cover's got (You) and fags like you by the balls.
>>63392313Haven't you learnt by now that people don't agree with you on that? It's been years.
>>63392447i think that since youtube started to remove ad block that thier numbers went up as a whole but its strange that hololives numbers did not go up
>>63392304wait>Ina: 2 PST>Fauna: 3 PST>Biboo: 4 PSTnext one will stream at 5 PST
>>63392504>Oh, idol girls are being quitthis isn't English you nigger
>>63392416I'm glad both exist, because I think they're both good places, just for different things.Sometimes you just wanna livepost and be hype about something you enjoy with people that like it more or less the same way, and global'll do ya good. Sometimes you wanna talk frank about stuff and be more "brass tacks," and that's when you shift over to a place like this.Different places for different needs. Better than trying to make both in the same spot.
>>63392548Leave my dancing monkey alone.
>>63392506She went back to family for Christmas and new year last year so I doubt her December will be packed
https://www.youtube.com/live/svd9nM11fm0?si=Frivs8emSvZST0m5IRyS WAS THE ONE WHO WANTED KIARA TO COLLAB AND HANGOUT WHEN SHE VISITED JAPAN!?!!!!! GUYS THIS IS HUGE!! IRyS is sorta nervous w/ people she doesn't talk w/ often, so the fact that she reached out to Kiara shows their friendship is growing!!! KIARyyyyySSSSSSSS
>>63392504>are being quitThis isn't English, you doofus
>>63392588>/live/
>>63392566>if the idol girls are quit on because of [x]is a legitimate sentence construction and I understood it perfectly. NTA.
>>63392566>>63392597>are being quit ONLearn English, faggots.
Hours streamed in NovemberBiboo 118Rissa 111FWMC 84Shiori 45
>>63392401Based and true. No schizo will tear me apart from my comfort hooman
>>63392312You support the things you like while not supporting the things you don't like, and I dunno, send mail to them telling them how you feel so that it's taken into some account by someone.Very simple, best you got.
>>63392609NIGGER, read past the first sentence
>>63392537kaela has got biboo to start another blue axolotl gacha arc in holo mc
>>63392616how much of Rissa's is 3k BG3 autism
>Holo vs Holo>Shitting CoverIs this place /#/ or Holoan thread?
>sea hours>sudden spam accusations of bad EnglishYou will never be white.
>>63392569Yep I agree. Good take.
>>63392616All that baldurs gate makes Nerissa looks good but no one watched that shit
>>63392609>"Oh, idol girls are being quit,"
>>63392569I’m going to blame >>63392588 on you
>>63392588No...my days of watching IRyS are numbered. Kiara will poison her mind. IRyS will stop hanging out with Flare after becoming bitter that Flare gets more 3d lives than her.
>>63392631>Thanks for the guild funds, simps
so thread is shit again, see you in 15h
Potential first armpit 3view streams tomorrow
>>63392631you can't support things to like without supporting the things you dislike because 50% of your SC/membership/merch purchase goes to Cover as an entity and Cover as an entity makes decisions I dislike, like clapping at their new gen of pests when they're trying to worm themselves into an all-girls group
>>63392688Sora would never say simps
>>63392688Sora's Minecraft guild, r-right, Intern-san?
>>63392560But they seemingly have gone up for hololive, a bit anyway.Like they're getting faster ccv growth and slightly higher peaks.Other have also noticed some smaller corpos and indies getting bigger numbers. It's nijien that hasn't seemed to change much.Basically if you have a mainly NA, and EU audience you seem to have got a boost.If the audience is mainly asian, it doesn't seem to have changed.
Stop writing novels holy fuck.
>>63392416dumbass global is every bit as anti it just hides it gay rituals
>>63392723but this is /wg2/
>>63392588Wait you guys hate Kiara?
>>63392727>hides
>>63392756We like Kiara here
>>63392527>nerfedBae isn't big to begin with. Dunno why people got this impression that she's huge when she's the smallest in her gen (though I'd say her and Mumei are the same size). I blame fanartists, they buff the hell out of her.Here's a more charitable screenshot, where she's jumping, so they look even bigger than they are. See how they still aren't large?
>>63392756No we respect her for speaking truth to power.
>>63392756see>>63390259
>>63392756>guysOne schizo.
>>63392780This, but unironically.
>>63392699yeah, I'm not gonna pretend that there's much you can do about thatSometimes that's just how the world is, though, and aside from "not supporting the retarded shit and telling them when you think it's retarded in appropriate ways," that's just how it is.Decide on your own whether or not you gain more enjoyment from helping your oshi than displeasure at stuff like that, or if the scales tip more towards creating a loss for your personal sense of well-being when that stuff happens.
>>63392416>"Hey I think ina's content has been kind of shit recently"please, that's the vast minority of posts that critique other chuubas, most "critique" posts are just "fuck this whore bitch graduate already".
>>63392650A little over 70 hours
>>63392796I wasn't being ironic.
>>63392651Shitting on Cover is good. Management hate is always correct. In any industry, in any field, management hate is the one connecting truth.
>>63392727The point is I DON'T want gay ritual anti shit.
>>63392651Holo numbers too big. They are getting desperate, please understand
>>63392802>in appropriate waysinstead I will call a-chan a dumb thot and spend my money on actual hobbies instead of funding holostars
>>63392802>helping your oshiThe thing I like about hololive is that I can dip out in protest or other reasons and know that my oshi is still financially secure.
>>63392609>Cover isn't going to think, "Oh, idol girls are being quit," they're going to think, "Idols don't make money, more mens!"Read that. Then read the rest of my reply.>are being quit on>mensNothing wrong about being ESL but ESLs who are confident when wrong are the worst.
>>63392756most people don't really think about kiara here for positive or negative reasons, aside from the times she metaposts about inside baseball stuff, which is usually appreciated.She exists. Not a lot of numbers, but enough to form a decent "kiara line" narrative at times. Doesn't step out of line much, doesn't rock the boat. Not much else to say here.
>>63392815That's only for certain girls where you can easily write it off as some same fagging schizo, like with FaunaLike I think you'd be hard pressed to find a post in /#/ like that for Ina. There's only certain girls that get treated that way.
Tempagpag status?Tempoop status?Tempiss status?
>>63392836
>>63392588Based retardAlso can anyone tell why is IRyS so suddenly all lovey dovey with Kiara?
>>63392527>>63392786 (me)Forgot to say that yeah, they buffed Fauna to her canon size, check Asagi's artworks of her
I hope Fauna visits her parents, realizes she wants to stay there, and graduates. Not like she gives a shit about her audience to begin with
>>63392883Eh arguably her niji collabs were rocking the boat at first. Gossiping about management is also rocking the boat, whether it's warranted or not
>>63392882It’s hopeless anon, the Filipinos have figured out that “ESL” is a snarlword so they’re gonna throw it around as much as possible.
>>63392727And what happens to those posts? They get hugboxxed down for an hour until they eventually get ignored or deleted.
>>63392815Nerisanji should graduate tho.
>>63392927should i check aqua's too?
>>63390198I agree with your conclusion but point 3 doesn't make sense, en was even more dead in December with even mori and kiara not streaming. If point 3 was actually a point in their favour then tempus 2 would've been far better recurved
>>63392882>still clinging to this argument>>63392657>>63392504No one cares about typos, brownie.You will never be white.
>>63392894wtf
>>63392943
>>63392923She pity's the myth fans.
>>63392906It should be 0 girls shitposted that way.
>>63392923Kiara has Hitler's original mechanical keyboard in her possession
>>63392943Boo!Shat your pants?
>>63392882you aren't even quoting the original post that you're complaining about properly
>>63390842Finally holoEN will magically get their timeslot for 3d recordings.
>>63392877Well sure, they'll be okay. But I do think it's worth remembering this adage from the real world:>Abstaining from the process doesn't voice your protest to those in power; it merely clears the floor for your opposition to hold the reins.True of real life, true of internet stuff like this.
>>63392944Thats 10h go to work
so why are doxsisters malding today?
>>63390651This thread is fast enough to be worth posting in, is the only place on the board to discuss vtubers in general ie not tied to a specific company or branch, and doesn't have jannies hovering 24/7 to nuke troll posts so obviously it ends up being the gathering point of the board
>>63392970Aqua's canon size is "always growing"She's variable like Towa, but only in one direction
>>63390871
>>63393065>todayThat's their secret, Cap.
>>63390990I was part of the Ame to Fauna migration after tempiss
>>63393088heh
>>63393075Was Wilson>Vox>lieverse back to back? They must be exhausted
>>63393005You mean Rudolf Hess’s, Hitler preferred to dictate.
>>63392786
>>63392975Explain why "mens" and "are being quit" are correct choices here.
>>63393065Gosh, anon, just look at the time!
Grim
>>63393065They were already in a state of seethe. Now HoloEn numbers seem to have gone up and Gura is streaming tomorrow
>>63393157Sure, no problem.You will never be white.Anything confusing to you still?
>>63392923Kiara is fun to be around. Unless you actively reject her because you're a hikineet like IRyS, you'll want to hangout with her, and IRyS decided not to be a hikineet for a bit.
Salamat siang /#/
>>63392975That's not what typo means, retard.Go back to school, Diego.
>>63392802At the end of the day, my desire to see the girls I like succeed outweighs my dislike of cover's bullshit. If seeing these girls get to achieve their lifelong dreams and find a place where they belong means a portion of my paycheck goes to buoying some dead weight homo, then so be it. The joy I see from the girls is infinitely more than the seethe I feel at the homos.
>Kaela surpasses MoriDOOORRRRYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Mumei should end and raid Bijou to knock the whore out of the podium
>>63392588Timestamp?
>>63390651First time I clicked on it is because the OP is a high-quality cunny
>>63393157NTA once againTo “quit on” something is to give up, to abandon. If the idols “are being quit on” their fans are leaving. “Mens” is obviously used in a mocking tone to allude to Cover’s poor decision-making as regards male vtubers. Again, this is very clear and standard conversational English.
>>63393204Listening to you try to pretend you're not brown is like watching a whore cry her body count isn't relevant. You should stick to doxposting.
>>63393229Milky*Mori been barely a thing in the stream for the last hour
>>63393032I'm quoting it in a reply to the same guy who write it two steps up the chain.Jeez, is this your first day on 4chan?
>>63393229Mori is a shit, that isn't surprising.
>>63393238Enna was never on the podium retardchama
>>63393172nijicgdctbros.....
>>63393266Mori's stream.
Nice thread
>>63393238biboo is ending
>>63393280>>63393263
>>63393153lmao what
>>63392825Hopefully she picks a better game for December.
>>63393306
>>63393306pretty normal and decent, desu, so long as you've been on this site long enough to learn to ignore the sideshows that go on sometimes in a thread
>>63393172They are fvcked, no one will believe girls only stream on niji
>>63393280You should probably limit your samefagging then.
>Mori raiding mumei over biboo rrats?
>>63393377Seniority.
>>63393198Yes, actually there is something.What makes "are being quit" correct English?And what words is "mens?"
>>63393377Lust
>>63393377Keep Mumei's averages up.
I love them so much
Raid Army
>>63393377Bitter that Bibbo boosted Kaela to where she beat Mori.
>>63393290>enna>reimu
>>63392825WTF, more than 50% of her time in this, insanity
>>63393377biboo is literally on ending screen
>>63393263Is this projection?
DOUBLE RAID DORYAA
>>63393397>>63393248>what words is mens?your a joke
>>63393229>>63393285Retards
>>63393397>>63393441>already had it explained to you by other peopleI mean, you could double down on your white envy, I guess.
>>63393412LmaoNerissa raidMori raidBiboo raid
raidbaby moment
>>6338667814k DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>63393451>your
Triple raid MumeiShe's a queen
moom is just that likeable
Holokeks make me really angry.
>Mori raids Mumei while she's off-stream>Mumei only returns after Biboo also raids her>Mumei thus only knows about the Biboo raid and acknowledges that oneextremely unfortunate timing for Mori's recognition
i swear every fucking girl always chooses to raid mumei. its not fair. Mumei gets EVERY FUCKING RAID. she paid the girls off to raid her over others or something
15k DOORYAAAAAA
MUMEI 15K DORYAAAAAAAAA
>>63393451I see what you did three.>>63393469>newfag>sea
>>63393469>ESL unable to distinguish tone, mockery
>>63393130Sorry, meant for>>63393065
15K MOOOM DORYAAAAAA
Everyone loves mumei
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE 15K
>>63393373Nah, it is pretty clear what posts are mine. Because I always ask him to explain his sentences.
Just fucking graduate Fauna already
>>63393457>200 veiwer difference >for an off collabLOL
>>63393522>It's very clear what posts are mine.>Didn't realize he's responding to the guy he's demanding an explanation from.Trying way too hard to fit in.
>>63393458Yeah, this sounds like projection.
>WAAAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY DOES MUMEI GET ALL THE RAIDSher pussy is just that good, if you wanted your oshi to get raids maybe you should've made sure her pussy was as POPPIN as Mumei's?
>>63393564>I was merely pretending to be retarded
>>63393522You’ve had it explained to you three times, you’re just a seething brown skinned illiterate kek. Good luck with that h1b.
>>63393583fact
>>63393489Just watch Holo streams with us and be happy.It's just that easy
>>63393497>Makes friends with the holo girls>Get raids from the holo girlsYeah it's weird huh?
>>63393595her neck is so long
>>63393564that's pretty good numbers for someone as insignificant as whori
>3 RaidsAn actual fucking raid baby
>>63393583This is the scientifically correct explanation.
>>63393046>get involved in politicsnah. shitposting and lurking here everyday is still a better waste of time
>>63392715I think that is the trend I see. Like some of the phase increase is that they have a roaming raid of an audience that does transfer but on average the viewership is up 30% to 50% I think some of it is that some of it is nijisanji and hololive fans leaving. I think the new holostars gen got some of the hololive fans to leave cause they thought the holostars were done after vesper and magni got axed
>>63393583Thanks for the explanation Fauna
>>63393656the new Holostars gen is completely inexplicable as anything other than open hostility to the existing fan base
>>63393451Wiktionary:>mens>menstruation, periodGuess it aptly describes why you're like this.
God, I hope Mumei's algo gets raped.
>>63393685Grabbing ESG money. Please understand.
>>63393564>with renowned superstar milkyway
>>63389972time to kill yourself you filthy nigger
>>63393646More than fair!"Process" doesn't explicitly have to be "politics," it can be anything, even like, socialization involves that philosophy in some form, or finding a nice girlfriend who's like a holo, stuff like that still follows the principle, but whatever makes you happy is probably more important!
>>63393704that rapist? me
>>63393720That's not what ESG meansfor the love of God, why does that phrase bring out the most retards
>>63393699>so knew he doesn't know "mens" as in /mens/>he doesn't know it's a common term referring to homosGo back.
Mumei is such an absolute raidbabby
>>63393720What fucking ESG metric demands more straight men???
>>63393685It's the CEO's pet project, anon, it's not hard to understand in that light
>>63393704kronii loves raping other girls...
>>63393564anon it's milky queen. Not exactly numbers bait
>HIRyS is praising Enna I need to know the timeline i am in
>>63393590I don't think they can grant visas to citizens.
I love Mumei so much
>>63393763Oh, explain to use what it means then, my friend.>inb4 something a dismissive tourist would say, like, "educate yourself">>63393776>straightAlso, lol, lmao
>>63393704There has literally never been proof that poor raid retention has any negative effect on a channels algo
>>63393776please understand, the retards think "ESG" means "anything I don't like and I can construe as being slightly political" instead of the reality of the term in investor spaces, aka, "shit that covers our asses"
>>63393764It's /mans/ you fucking retard
>>63393725Why you gotta be a gore poster, anon.Please save it for universally reviled chuubas at least
>>63393790>CEO's pet project>hires thirdworlderswdtmbt?
>>63393776>>63393763>this mad at a throwaway postWhy? Do you feel personally attacked at the mention of ESG for some reason?
>>63393685I think the upper Management is fearful that if they continuously debut girls one day that they will debut a great group and it doesn't hit. What do you do when everything thier buisnesss model is based on is continuous growth. I think about 50% of the management with the holostars is hatred of their audience still
>>63393816didn't stop nijien management from believing /#/'s rrat about that
>>63393590So the original poster just forgot "on" twice in a row, according to himself, and then wrote "mens" too?
>>63393849It’s just a stupid explanation, like when reddit talks about idol culture
retention for this raid seems to be better than the last so far
why do we always get the /pol/fags that think they are right about everything?
>>63393831Oh, you know it by heart?Then you should DEFINITELY GO FUCKING BACK.
>>63393656>hololive fans leavingBut hololive numbers are going up, so you're wrong there. The Armis debuts had 40-50k people watching Hololive girls instead, so they're fairly irrelevant. They share a lot more audience with NijiEN then HoloEn anyway.
>>63393776The dudes have the LGBT and transgender audience that's how they get esg money
>>63393849Nta but it's always correct to be mad at dumbasses lest you be overrun by them
So can we agree Nerissa is actually top 3 singer in Hololive and she isn't 3rd
>>63393859You can’t even read LOL
>>63393764>/mens/Get a load of this retard.You from a Discord server?
>Fauna: gets a shitty mario kart raid after SC reading bleeding>Mumei: 17K karaoke raid, MC collab raid and Off Collab raid, all without SC reading bleedSo why people prefer Mumei so much?
>>63393908>>63393883
>>63393876Probably because there’s literally no other streams on
>>63393812It means "Environmental, Social, and (Corporate) Governance," and it is a section of business that basically boils down to:>what can we put on our investor reports to appeal to younger, socially concious/eco-friendly investors and their funds, so that they don't see us as just purely money-grubbing corporationsIt's basically just a branding strategy, for the most part, where it's used to highlight things that put a corporation in a positive light for investors that differ from the prior generation's more "pure profit, shareholder mentality" mindset.
>>63393725>>63393793Looks like Mori is getting desperate with her leeching after Advent wised up to her.
>>63393909Why doesn't Fauna position herself better to catch raids?
>>63393909>Fauna vs Mumei
>>63393897IRyS>Mumei>NerissaThis is the list
>>63393909If only Ina wasn’t a bitch who never raids anybody
Is this some kind of raid where you act as retarded as possible to lower thread quality or are you just pinoys
>>63393924>for investorsExactly. Go on, take it to the final conclusion. I know you can do it. Which investors?>inb4 you take it personally again
>>63393897Let’s worry about becoming top 3 in her branch first
>>63393934t.buzzword fag that doesn't even understand what they're saying
>>63393924nuh-uh, ESG means Enter Social Gays
>>63393909Mumei the Queen of 4chan only deserves the cream of the crop
>if not botted, Mumei's dooms are raid babied into relevancyIt's honestly quite amazing
>>63393897Nah it's still gura>irys>mori>nerissa
>>63393987Mumei is a Princess
>>63393699Forgot to say that this was in Swedish.It also means woman in Dutch.
>>63393896>>63393969
>>63393897By karaoke #Gura firstMumei secondIRyS thirdNerissa fourth if she can keep her karaoke # constantly above 15k then she can be in top 3 for karaoke #
>>63393885I should have been clear my theory is some part of the viewer increase that phase and idol got is that some of the fans have left since they added new holostars when they thought there would be no more holostars
>>63393991Least delusional chumbie
>>63393909Because Fauna is a boring self centered whore who needs to graduate already
>>63393980>This upset over mori leeching
>Just accept ESG policies, anon. You're a dumb dumb if you don't.>I mean, look at Nijisanji. It was fine for them!Tourists.
>>63393909mumei in general seems to be really liked behind the scenes. there's been alot of ENs thanking her for helping and stuff/talking compared to others
>>63393906>>63392382Where does it say "quit on" here?
>>63393959>>63393991If irys is that good, why did project hope flop?
>>63393816people are trying as hard as they can to not understand that theory anyway, and misconstrue it as much as possible. It's not that complicated. A slow bleed isn't poor retention. It would only matter, if it does at all, if it significantly lowers a videos average watch time. It would also only effect that vod
>>63394050I know you are but what am I?
>>63394035thats really the part of that post you have a problem with?
This is the face of best singer in EN vtubingSay something nice to her
>>63394075Meanwhile no one gives a single fuck about Fauna lol
>>63393918I know where you should go.
>>63394078First sentence. It's obvious the second is a typo. Anything else, brownie?
>>63393991>mori>nerissaotherwise agree
>>63394055no wonder they hired kiara and nerissa and now EN is reclining
>>63393897I felt nothing listening to her. Either I think she's not good live or her karaoke isn't good. She's obviously good on a technical level, but she lacks soul.
>>63394078Really? Are you having a fucking stroke right now or are you just blinded with ESL fury?
>>63394110>passive aggressive posting as an anonymous posterI know you shouldn't be here in the first place.Post hair color.
>no cunny>thread is shit
I personally find Mumei to be my favourite EN singer. Her karaokes are all I need
>>63394131>Kiara >NerissaJust say you don't watch streams.
>>63394131>sea
>>63393969>Which investors?Well, it's like I said. Socially conscious, younger investors and fund managers. Basically, the same investors as before, but in the new generation, which look beyond pure accounting for investment and want to invest in things that aren't environmentally harmful. Mostly it's for environmental, to be honest, although Corporate Governance is the second strongest (especially since the 08 controversies with things like "golden parachutes," if you can be perceived as not doing that, you're better off in investments). The "Social" part of that equation is mostly looking for companies to follow "Stakeholder Theory," this new concept that's been around in the Post-Chicago School of Economics period, basically the idea is that a company makes decisions not just for the bottom line, but to make sure that it doesn't actively harm the consumers of their products, or at least doesn't consciously harm people as a profit-seeking mechanism by way of, say, byproducts and creating a negative environment.As for like, specific investors? Well, probably the same as usual. Retirement portfolios are by and large the biggest investors in the marketplace, followed by hedge funds for the wealthy who look for cutting edge profit generators on the market, then individual investors and corporate/bank/VC investors after that.
>>63393963A quick search tells me it is almost 3 PM in flipland.Could also just be a raid, like you said. They probably think we'll be too busy replying to watch Mumei.
>>63394133Most girls sound much better in recorded covers than in live singing for a very obvious reason
>>63394099I'm just sick of people spamming gura as number 1 like they're stuck in the myth only days. Mumei has improved to be much better
>>63393991While I think Mori's lyrics are complete dogshit, and especially her "rapping", I can still agree with this.
>>63394101she isn't the best in HoloEN let alone EN vtubing
>>63394032Anons have been talking about this for a few days now.It's not necessarily an actual increase in viewers, youtube tweaked something so it's verifying and counting viewers faster. So they are getting faster and as a result higher peaks in ccv.It's most likely to do with the Adblock situation which is why it's mostly effecting NA and EU audiences
>fauna plays buff shit >Everyone fellates her numbers>Gets thoroughly mogged twice >Everyone tries to downplay to the people who mogged her Saplings are a fucking blight
>>63394191>Socially conscious, younger investors and fund managers.Right, so the type that believes there's 100 genders and anything a straight male likes should be destroyed. Got it.
>>63394175i see and also see they get shitty numbers, they are reclining because they are filled with ESG
>>63393924No it means Elder Scrolls Games
>>63394234We love Saplings here
>>63390990I held strong and waited for Haachama all of this time unwavering
>>63394237>gets an actual answer>throws it all away because "muh culture war" bullshityeah I don't think anyone expected much of you anyways
>>63394238magandang taghali to you sir
>buff shit
>>63393963Unfortunately it's proven to be an effective strategy
>>63394274ok kfp, keep defending your ESG oshi
>>63394272>he thinks there isn't a culture warYou can just browse YouTube recommended for twenty minutes to know otherwise.
Gura and Mumei are both bad singers but their lane is sadgirl horse shit so it gets overlooked pretty easily.
/#/ is an ESG thread
>>63394277Lamy played it 3 times and got over 10k for it each time. It's buff shit you fag.
>>63394238>I SEAWe know what you are. Don't have to announce it.
>>63394237That's a lot of assumption based on random /pol/ brain rot shit. Not all socially conscious people are terminally online twitter people
>>63394131Kiara isn't even liked by lefty types because they unironicaly get mad that she flubbed the N word by accident
>>63394293>didn't even deny being brown>in fact, doubled down
>>63394150No, I'm in the hospital for appendicitis.High on painkillers though.
>>63394314I will never use the Epic Store's Games
>>63394323to be fair it was really funny that she mumbled every word of that song except for the racial slurlike, it was hilarious, even
>>63394323She supports BLM though
The esg shit that hololive is going for is going to bite them in the ass that shit is poisen for every organization that buys into it. I know that a lot of the faggots that support it do so cause they are men who are conformist and collectivist like most Asians are but I'm just letting you cucks know that it will always be a poisen pill and it will end badly
>>63394272He thinks it means they’re actually taking action instead of blowing hot air up people’s asses.
>>63394301>the clickbait machine for emotional morons serves clickbait to emotional moroncolor me surprised, my recommended are mostly wildlife videos becuase I actually trim out anything remotely clickbaity
>>63394234This Fauna incline arc has been real rough on you hasn't it buddy
>>63394321That's your response? #NotAllInvestors?Tell me which of these few investors are the good ones.
>>63394311all that text just to admit you're deaf
>>63394355Timestamp?
>>63394378You want to live in your twitter world so I'm not gonna bother continuing. Try getting off social media
>>63394366>manually curates his videos>ignores uncurated stuff is literally a culture war>therefore it doesn't not existAh yes, the ostrich defense.
>>63394372What incline, she won't even top the charts
why are you spamming about esg you retard? did you think the initial responses calling you stupid were evidence of a successful troll?
>>63394234This but unironically.
>>63393989So this is your angle because you couldn't affod bots?
>>63394430Welcome to the /pol/ in /vt/
>>63394313>Tavern Master is a serious buff game!The absolute state of schizos these days
>>63394430At least have the courage to backlink if you're going to gripe.That's tourist behavior. So is getting mad about an off-hand remark. Now I'm convinced it's something because you're going on an hour defending it. Do you actually care? Yes, obviously, because you've gone this far, but you'll lie and say no.>>63394407>>63394362You two saying it's not a thing? It's just fake, doesn't matter?Then why do you care about a throwaway comment so badly, exactly?
>>63394410nigga, you're being served culture war slop because morons exactly like you love consuming that shit and working themselves up over nothingand your moronic reflection on the other "side" is no betterbut you're both like 2% of the general population
So cute, they deserve each other
>>63394479>I'm going to ignore the proof to pretend my whore did well against all odds!Just die already.
>>63394090I'm rubber and you're glue, Anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you.
>>63394413you see the numbers, they've gone up, that's called an incline
>>63394430Somehow people attach political bogeymen to corporations making empty promises to not behave like Captain Planet villains.
>they legit called a girl tatitutetoAnd here I thought nijien names were bad
>>63394430they have political mindrot
>>63394532I miss the GOOD OLD DAYS when men could be MEN and advertise their businesses with art of SEXY WOMEN CUTTING DOWN RAINFORESTS!Preferably while buying PROCESSED BREAD LOAFS
>>63394323Kiara has hit the point every Euro eventuslly does: we get above 20-ish and have enough "progressive" crowd. Saw one too many gypsies or something.
>>63394413Faunas incline is eternal
>>63394532It's how you know you have pol rotted posters in the thread
I used to not believe the esg shit when it came to hololive cause I thought it was a niche hobby but I think you will all see that it will be so prevalent and overbearing that it will be hard to ignore
>>63394531Going up because of a fucking bug fix doesn't change shit faggot
>>63394191A lot of the reasoning behind it was that it would indicate that the company is a "safe investment", the failures of hollywood has actually managed to tarnish its reputation a lot due to the influx of really shitty movies and the general mass hate it when their entertainment is negatively affected due to shit they don't particularly care about.
>>63394522Just cut your loses and anti someone else, seeing you get assblasted every single day is just sad
>>63300000numbers
>>63394101I'm sure one day you'll get to sniff Kiara's panties, Nerissa!
>>63394360>poisenBut like, explain what hololive has done that is like that. And I mean hololive, not anything else.
>>63394613>Still deflectingYou're the one that's sad.
>>63394572>even Shadman is afraid
>>63394208>no you must have my opinion>me me me meGura's karaoke is just really good. She has that raw talent to absorb you into a bubble for however many hours and shut out the world. It's not just about singing ability, which anons can argue about until the sun dies. She has a special way of running a karaoke that nobody has yet replicated.
>>63394430The thread got raided by some /pol/ schizos yesterday, a few stuck around
why are you guys entertaining the faunaschizo today
>SEA hours>thread full of /pol/rotten fags
>>63394611Hollywood has actually managed to kill itself as a cultural force and the new LoTR adaptation is written and directed in Japan
>>63388962HomoEN deflection yab
>>63394321Let's take a step back from twitter brainrot and just go with what is observable though: Disney's current issues as a result of activist employees and investors.It's a complete shitshow of unprofitable decision after unprofitable decision, because they forgot the most important thing for an entertainment company : YOU HAVE TO MAKE SHIT THAT PEOPLE WILL ENJOY AND WATCH.Beyond that, the truth is, NO ONE CARES that much. Disney has failed, as have many other media/entertainment companies because they decided being 'socially responsible' was somehow some greater good that had to be forced upon the plebs, and this mindset is not an uncommon one amongst this class of investor. That's the issue, not one of twitter rot or not, it's an age-old case of>Authoritarian vs Liberal and I mean the classical Liberal, not whatever mockery it's been twisted into. The truth is, left or right, Authoritarians creep in constantly, and not being mindful of how easily the authoritarians get a hold of things and pervert them is how you end up with stuff like the Religious Right going nuts in the 90s.
>>63394573Kiara and IRyS bonding over gypsy hate and having lesbian sex in Japan!
>>63394534>Seraph Dazzlegarden
>>63394665lmao go make the homoEN yab as big as possible, we don't care
>>63394651gura reaches soul (the good kind, not the cope kind) levels that touches the heart of people across the worldunbiased opinion of course
>>63394654Because the alternative is entertaining the pollacks