/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>63222044
Ignore everything /#/ says. Vtubers get less viewers when they're not streaming on their main platform because not all of their fans follow them to the other platform. This works both ways.

>>63222680
you can't expect retards /here/ to think

>>63222044
to a surprise of no one: /#/ is a lair of braindead faggots
most of them are mentally female, and more concerned with dramafaggotry and raiding generals than with actual noombers
there's like 3 guys who can properly noomber in that entire thread

>>63222044
Are you actually dense? Streamer randomly streams on different platform, gets less viewers, surprise pikachu face. Hell most hololive fans specifically hate twitch, they're just going to go watch one of the other dozen hololive streamers streaming on youtube at that time.

>>63222044
It was more like a 1 to 0.7 ratio, but now it's closer to 1:1 again after the aggressive ad changes.

>>63222807
>and raiding generals
still with this? those are your own schizos searching for ammo in /#/ and using it.

>>63222044
holo numbers aren't that impressive without embeds

>>63223335
Get fucked numbernigger. Your day will come.

aeeeee let's look at ironmouse's numbers on youtube instead

# is terminally /here/ they hate everything that isn't blue dorito and worship numbers. they don't even watch their owns streamers. They have a hate for twitch because their shitty internet can't handle the website.

I just don't like Twitch. I like to swap between streams and videos, and it's nice not having to switch tabs to do that.

>>63224568
Stop being braindead

>>63226131
pretty sure /#/ has a bunch of phase fags in it considering that's who parrot the /#/rrats on xitter

Twitch viewers and youtube viewers are very resistant to switching to the oher platform.
Twitch and youtube calculate ccv differently, with twitch being more generous and youtube undercounting to be more accurate for advertiers.

This is apparently far too complicated for the average poster

All the "top streamers" on Twitch use deceptive tactics like opening their stream tab multiple times on mute to artificially boost their views. If they aren't doing it themselves, then they likely have fans that are secretly doing it instead to "help support them." Sure, some outsiders to the platform may not know these tricks and even their fans might not know, but that doesn't mean those bugs are gone. That's why Twitch views are worth less. From a marketing perspective, 1 Twitch view is worth 1/4 YouTube view just because you can't tell if the view is from a real person or form a person's 1000th muted tab.

>>63227153
YouTube recently changed the CCV math. Now it's a near-match to Twitch CCV calculations.

>>63228304
why do you lie?

>>63228336
Are you one of those morons who actually believe the x2 CCV was from adblock users?

>>63224568
Get fucked Vshitshow tranny, that day will never come.

>>63222044
Matt Sue Ray Fantia-anon...

>>63222044
GRIM

>>63228304
Waiting room recovery has been faster.
I'm sure you have proof for the second part.
Amongst other things it doesn't change the fact that you can count as a viewer on multiple streams on twitch at once, but only one at a time on youtube

>>63228304
This isn't even remotely true lmao
Twitch still counts viewers that are tabbed out and muted, as well as embedded on the home page or other sites.
The only thing Youtube changed was how people with adblock are counted, and even that we don't know the full extent of.

>>63222680
That didn't apply to Shilily or Fillian, though

>>63222044
She'd have been a 3views if she streamed this on YT, anon

>>63228924
I don't know about lily, but Filian doesn't surprise me. Her clip game is strong and she's one of the few vtubers who has more followers on youtube despite that not being her main platform. I guess tiktok viewers are more easily converted to youtube viewers than to twitch viewers.

>>63228875
>The only thing Youtube changed was how people with adblock are counted
Check adblock usage rates lmao. Better yet: check how much of the viewership is even on PC. Not nearly enough to explain multiple vtubers getting x2 CCV.

>>63229167
Who are getting 2x CCVs?
Just curious, because there is kind of a big difference going from 50 to 100 viewers and 4,000 to 8,000
As far as I know, none of the 4+views EN chuuba on YT (mainly HoloEN and NijiEN) has gotten 2x overall CCV recently

>>63226131
Sounds based

>>63230046
nothing based about being poor

>>63222044
holo didn't buy twitch bot yet

>>63222044
No, the numbers on Twitch are worth 6 times more than those on Youtube.
So her Twitch number is worth 9k on Youtube, which is worth 54k on Twitch.

>>63222044
it's magic

>>63222044
Twitch is just a completely different viewership altogether, especially for japanese streamers.
JP twitch viewers are all zoomers that just want to watch western games

>>63230668
In what fucking universe does this math make any logical sense?

>>63223230
>Streamer randomly streams on different platform, gets less viewers
Damn. Now if only numberfags would actually learn this lesson

>>63222044
sample size 2
matsuri and laplus
two of the most disliked hololivers
kek

>>63222807
Unironically this.
/#/s should have been banned from the board forever ago since they've organized several raids on the generals and have frequently posted dox shit without so much as a slap on the wrist. Nobody likes them

>>63222044
It's Matsuri. It's Valorant. I'm surprised she had those numbers. Why was she streaming it on twitch? She knows it will decrease the viewers on her yt channel and she'll earn less. She doesn't want to risk her yt numbers.

>>63233722
why do noombermonkeys love that eternaly dying spic

>>63226131
>even though twitch is peak thirdworlder culture
yeah you're a newfag and a brownoid, consider going back to your shithole

>>63232977
western games like souls games, street fighter 6 and final fantasy

>>63239526
every holo members has a twitch account. some stream on it some don't.

>>63226865
alot of the /pcg/ oldgaurd consisted of the worst baiters and #s spammers out there

>>63222044
Idk about a 4:1 ratio, but when a JP member (Miko I think) started a stream on YouTube, had some trouble on the platform, then moved it to Twitch, she had the same viewership, despite the expected loss of like 10-20% when switching platforms. And this was a random MC stream 2 years ago.
YouTube has gotten stricter about view counting since then, so no doubt the numbers shown are inaccurate (proven by YouTube chat polls as well), but unless a streamer actually tells us if they see a different number of viewers than what is shown, or they achieve a 100% cross-platfirm viewership transfer during a test stream, we'll never know how big the discrepancy is.