/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Homosister deflection thread. Ignore and proceed.

>>62794599
They stream too regularly. Whenever someone like Fauna or Ame streams it's an event because you maybe get two streams per week. When Advent streams it's just another day.

>>62794599
They aren't. End thread

>streaming is... leh bad
Chumkek...

>>62794599
Pebble still strong

>>62794599
They didn't do as well as expected.

>>62794599
>Is it because they did too much streaming?
you speak funny

>>62794599
>Why are they declining
wtf is this retardation?
do most anons here unironically think that a chuubas debut buff numbers would stay til after 3+ months of streaming?

>>62794599
The only ones who are genuinely doing okay is the twins, the rest seem to have found their niche but drop bad, especially Shiori who was always the least popular it seems. Maybe people find them too safe or dull as a whole.

>>62794599
Looks good to me. Go worry about your niji and vshoujo 2views.

>>62794599
seethe
HoloJP>HoloEN>HoloID>StarsJP>StarsEN>NijisanjiJP>NijisanjiEN>Vshojo.

>>62794599
Huh? They're doing just fine tho.

>>62794599
Only the twins are worthwhile, pebble is good too but she's just a regular streamer.

>>62795150
This. There is such a thing as too much streaming, especially on YouTube which will actually stop recommending you if you post or stream too much.

Stop replying to shitty bait.

>>62794599
It’s because they play favorites with their fans on twitter

How does Nerissa have more subs than Bijou? People are weird.

>>62799454
>Muh older sister vibes
That's it, she admits herself she is boring as fuck when it comes to video games.

>>62799454
Some freaks have this new fetish that makes them attracted to adult women

>>62798676
this anon gets it.
they are not bad per say and good in their own way, but only the dogs make me want to give money.

>>62799454
Bunch of decent covers. Gets you a decent amount of casual subs who don't watch streams but will listen to your music. Not to mention a not so secret PL with hundreds of thousands of youtube subs too...

>>62795150
Do you even watch Fauna? She regularly streams 3-4 times a week.

>>62799454
Model buff + music output. Biboo typically does better in CCV than Nerissa, but those things contribute a ton to sub count. Mori still has the second most subs in Myth despite having some of the worst CCV. It took Mumei 2 years to pass Kronii even though Kronii tanked her channel for a while with the homo arc.

>>62805380
Mori has had the second best CCV this month behind Fauna.

>>62798676
Pebble 's doing better than the dogs though. Guess people prefer regular streamer to retarded streamer.

>>62794599
Bait

If Advent is going wrong, than how many vtubers in the world are going right?

>>62798676
>>62807140
>Holo vs Holo
>Advent vs Advent

>>62807140
Not generally. Only when the dogs do their debuff zoomer filtering streams. Otherwise the dogs are usually the second highest average ccv in EN

>>62794599
because the majority of Hololive EN fans wanted more males, not whores

>>62808950
Guys, the sisters are deflecting again

>>62808950
This. We especially want more male-female interaction.

>>62799454
she is the coomer friendly of the gen that's why

Reclined enough for more homos that's bad.

>>62808900
Sure. I'd even they are the first, just don't count all the times when they are not. Wtf is this ruffian logic?

>>62810747
If you're gonna start numberfagging, don't get mad when someone else starts lobbing numberfag arguments right back at you.

>>62808683
Holy newfag

>>62811006
I didn't even start numberfagging.
If I did, I'd point out that Advent full gen watchalong was just mogged by homos watching other homos debut. Which is truly pathetic.

>>62801469
How the hell am I not finding anyone's pls myself? I found 3 and only one was someone I knew before their VTuber debut

>>62809748
There's niji for you sistur

>>62794599
Something happen to BlackSanji?

>>62811653
Numbernigger, the watchalong stream for the Advent debuts had higher viewership than the fucking homo debut streams themselves, not to mention the 100k+ that watched Advent debuts. Baffling you need to use a watchalong of an 80s movie and act like its some kind of burn.

>>62812146
Feels like a daily occurrence desu. Why else would the Nijifags on this board keep trying to start shit with bait threads like this one?

Can't you fags just enjoy every holomember who streams for once? I actually have to admit, its nice seeing everyone at least stream more than three times a week.

>>62794599
4/5 only play random ass games and rpg games which are debuffs. And shiori is talking streams.
I can only care so much about 90s donkey kong and mario games man...

>>62794599
Bijou and Fuwamoco are doing great
the dogs in particular have incredible power and a good niche
Nerissa and Shiori are honestly just kind of boring. They're not bad, but there's really nothing about either to keep me watching

>>62806795
Isn't 5/8 of her streams this month collabs including the sports festival? Nine if you count current mario stream going on. Don't know how many member stream she did but we can't even see the CCV from that.

>>62794599
I think advent sucks

>Shiori
Boring I gave her a try at first even defended her saying she wasn't GFE then she actually did start doing GFE
>Nerrisa
Kiara cringe I hate KFP passionately in anyform, if she dropped that shit and her constant thirst shit she'd be okay
>Twins
the best
>Bijou
Hated her and her fanbase at first, after some of her collabs she's started growing on me like crystals inside of a geode, for now still staying cautious.

in other words they'll be fine they have 1000s of simps

>>62811286
But enough about you

>>62815868
If only the rest of this board thought as you did

>>62805380
>Mori still has the second most subs in Myth despite having some of the worst CCV
That's why you specifically use this meaningless stat to shit on Mori. Her total views per stream (including VOD) a same or better than others. Same with Bae and some others.

>>62805380
>>62812160
>Baffling you need to use a watchalong of an 80s movie
That's what they chose to overlap the homos. The drop from debuts to this is indeed baffling.

>>62794599
They're all boring and stale already. Simple as.

>>62817390
appreciating holomembers who stream like holomembers is great. Its why i'm glad that every member has continued to pitch in. I'm not a big Nerissa fan, but everyone else has been fine. Shiori still is my favorite. i hate that I can relate to the way she acts.

>>62794599
But enough about NijiEN and Tempoop

>>62799454
I went and checked some numbers.

FWMC has 634k subs and got 47k views on the devour collab

Shiori 442k/40k

Nerissa 497k/39k

Biboo 485k/51k

So Biboo has the highest % of actual fans who watch her videos, then Shiori, then FWMC and Rissa have more casual fans.
With Nerissa it's because of the songs, but the numbers are kinda low for the dogs.

The sport festival is a similar story: fwmc had 62k views, Nerissa 48k, Shiori 60k (probably a spike because of the lost Shiori thing), and Biboo 85k.

Rissa might be more popular but Bijou has the more loyal subbers.

>>62819393
See, you can invent a stat for everyone. One of the reasons numberfagging is cancer.

>>62820001
Numberfagging is the adult version of the masculine urge of making up power levels and goku vs supermen.
You can not take it away from us.

>>62820076
The only numbers that matter are merch sales, and sadly people lost access to those

>>62820076
how many spongebobs to defeat broly

>>62820113
It's not about numbers that matter. You lack the romanticism to understand.

>>62807140
in what fucking reality are you watching? every time they do something with all advent povs, dogs win. Any time theyre not playing a shit 30 year old debuff game, dogs win. sub count? dogs win by miles, they'll end up lapping all of Advent in a year or two.

>>62820521
>they'll end up lapping all of Advent in a year or two
Sure. Go back to /baubau/ till then.

>>62820521
That was bait ruffian bro, relax
Heel, boy, heel

>>62817304
>he wasn't there on the /jp/ era
Lurk 1 billion years

>>62820604
sometimes it's hard to tell what's bait and what is just mental retardation. you're probably right!

>>62820579
do you not see the gap increasing every single day? they're like 200k over Shiori already. it's bauover.

>>62820521
But they do play shit 30 yet old games pretty often. Wtf is this retarded logic?
Is that (you) >>62808900 again or do all ruffians share the same braincell?
Even this >>62819230 shows like 200 CCV difference and they somehow scraped dogs numbers wrong, should be like 6050.

>>62820770
They were supposed to hit million by the end of the year, don't you remember?

>>62794599
Because that's the general trend. They did nothing new to change it.

"Ruffians" disgust me with their behavior sometimes, I have no problem with actual ruffians but it's way too easy to falseflag as one that I hate it

>>62828686
Don't let shitposters have control of your feelings

>>62794599
Theyre fine

>>62794599
>Why are they declining?
they're not

>>62828686
so true sister

>>62833223
>when anything doesn't match with your pathetic logic, you start blaming everyone
disgusting retard

>>62834256
NIJISEETHE

>>62834335
>rent free
fucking kek

>>62805380
>Mori still has the second most subs in Myth despite having some of the worst CCV
You're putting the cart before the horse. Subs are a tool to get more views, not the other way around. Subs in a vacuum are worthless.

>>62834502
And she does get views from it, more than fwmc actually. Just not live views.
As has been shown even in this thread, you can create a metric to fit any rrat. /vt/ numberfags like CCV specifically cause it fits their whole "male bad" delusion better (even then there's Kiara etc).

>>62794599
They're not declining, the problem is that they share the same audience.

>>62835429
Only two numbers matter for Cover. VOD views and membership because thats where the most consistent money is

>>62835533
Who the fuck is Shiori sharing her schizos with? How is Fuwamoco sharing with anybody else in advent? Biboo and Nerissa are completely different. Thats an idiotic take

>>62835562
Tell that to morons screeching Mori's career is dead and Bae is the runt of EN

>>62835981
By that Metric Fauna is practically the runt despite higher average CCV. So their internal logic is not even consistent

>>62794599
*reclining

>>62836098
Nah Fauna is among the highest in both CCV and VOD views.

>>62794599

>>62798702
It has to do with people missing streams and YouTube making them way lower priority in response.

>>62835615
Diamond Dogs is a thing

>>62794599
Nothing went wrong, myth and council killed the EN market with their lack of motivation and sporadic streams. Also EN management was absolutely dogshit. It’s hard to save EN when your senpais left such a mess. If they debuted closer to council or before them they easily would all be at 800k+ and with Nerissa /fwmc at 1million but cover decided to wait 2 fucking years while the EN market fucked off. They’re doing well all considered tho, especially fwmc

>>62820521
Everyone knows Fuwamoco is the most popular but there's no need to outright lie to exaggerate your toxic hatred of the rest of Advent.
"every time they do something with all advent povs, dogs win."

Lets look at their last bunch of advent collabs ccvs...
Devour: Biboo = 7,085, FWMC = 6,488
Paranormal Cleanup: Biboo = 7,560, FWMC = 5,456
Forewarned: Biboo = 6,340, FWMC = 6,352
Minecraft: Biboo = 9,771, FWMC = 9,738
Gartic Phone: Biboo = 9,738, FWMC = 8,223

>>62794599
>>62795150
Yeah, this. They stream TOO much. I don't watch half of their shit because I'm overexposed to them.
>>62795404
It is when it's in excess.

>>62797573
JP continues going strong

>>62845607
>Everyone knows Fuwamoco is the most popular
They are not. Your numbers show it, most real data does. Bijou does better than "ideal vtubers", not even mentioning Council/Promise (that they were supposed to absolutely crush).
Which causes hilarious cope and seethe from local "ruffians" who were shitting on everyone else since before their debut.

>>62847211
ReGloss in particular.
Who from holox kept their debut month viewership? Maybe Koyori but that's an huge outlier, more like she got back to it through grind.

>>62847598
>>62845607
FWMC had a real strong start that cemented them as "popular", but their views went down.
They absolute rack in money though, they got 4 times Biboo's superchats in the sports festival for example (though this seems to be an outlier).

In the devour one, Biboo got 21k vs FWMC's 130k.


Also, interestingly, Shiori gets a lot more supas than one would assume given her ccv.

>>62848151
their views went down because jp viewers left. if they start jp streams theyll come back.

>>62848151
i wonder why biboo gets lower supas, is it because she reads all supas regardless of color so there's no incentive to superchat higher amounts or is it just a different audience/streams that aren't as conducive to mass superchatting

>>62848249
Cope. JP viewers left because dogs are boring af and they have 30+ other girls to choose from. If they start jp streams half of their remaining fans will leave.

>>62849408
My theory is that her fanbase is mostly younger men into gaming vs the older men who watch fwmc and shiori.

>>62794599
>Scroll thread
>#

You idiots broke containment again. Stay in your cancer thread.

>>62849564
>Go into numberfag thread
>Complain about numberfags

>2022: EN doesn't stream enough! Decline! Lazy whores!
>2023: EN streams too much! Decline! Overachieving whores!
/vt/

>>62849545
She also plays a lot more games that have restrictive super rules.

>>62849545
Also take into account that Shiori and FWMC both do GFE like behavior which causes whales to toss Supers at their Wafius.

Biboo is cute and funny and she's a memer but she's not really GFE material so she gets less thirst money.

>>62851816
What about Nerissa though?

>>62851868
who?

>>62845607
>>62847598
>>62849408

Don't worry, the real deal is the merch of FWMC and Bijou.

>>62851868
Nerissa is a whore

>>62851868
Coomerbait model. Willing to do fanservice.

>>62852624
fwmc will blow merch sales out of the water also bc fuwawa and mococo have separate merch packs so people will be spending double

>>62852624
What the people want is 1. Shiori's jacket 2. a bed size bookwyrm plush.

>>62851868
We don’t talk about that whore here

>>62852912
>fwmc will blow merch sales out of the water
How did ruffians become so delusional? They're worse than KFP or pomudachis.

>>62851868
She has to compete with Kronii and Shiori took the Schizo GFE types first

>>62817274
>got filtered by GFE
gay

>>62794599
too many yabs

>>62861004
that's clearly a woman anon....

>>62794599
you are declining in sucking deez nuts

>>62794599
vtubers in general are declining retard