/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6224481
>would your oshi shut up shop soon as the cash stop flowing?
I mean, given how much time goes into streaming regularly, they would have to stop streaming so they could get a job to pay the bills unless you're expecting them to have no life outside of their job and streaming. The only way they could continue to stream without revenue coming in is if they're a NEET living on someone else's dime.

emm pretty much everyone cares about the money, and the mayority enjoys it, now clearly there must be some that are frustated with her numbers like anya, aki and mel and some that doesnt really care that much about anime culture in general like calli who seems more mature and does this like a normal job, the problem would be which vtubers need to do vtubing and dont have any other option either cause they are "special" like aqua or have economic problems like early subaru

>>6224481
My oshi has genuine fun everytime

>>6224481
>>6224592
>>6224728
Recently, Kagura Mea did a stream to tell the honest and brutal truth about corporate vtubers (Holo/Niji), since she knows them and they even tell her this stuff

1. If they talk about being sick on twitter and need rest to feel better, it's either to spend time with their b*yfriends or vacation time for themselves. A lot of them will even sound sick/create fake stories of how they got sick to bait some SC or to guilty trip their listeners to supporting them

2. Some will play video games a lot because they hate interacting with their weirdo fans, even if they're not good at games, it's easy SC and they can just talk towards themselves while playing.

3. In discord, they have two voice chats. A professional voice chat where the vtubers will plan future events or run scripts with other vtubers. The other voice chat is OOC (Out of character) and yes, it's personal talk, girl gossip and they do make fun of your cringy or hate posts on twitter about them.

4. They're in it for the money, this is a business. It's not because "they love to make people happy", they're giving a service to entertain to help that brand and themselves get rich.

5. Some of the popular vtubers have great tricks with guilty tripping their supporters or even new people into giving superchats. From being a cute airhead that's too dumb to know anything or telling a fake sob story where they pretend to be social retards or super super shy in public and can only relate with their audience.
Example of the airhead: https://streamable.com/ji5kuw

6. If the vtuber acts "super lewd" or "I'm a degenerate like you guys", it's SOMETIMES just an act to entertain the listeners, they likely just did research on a couple of doujin artists to say their names on stream or say certain things based on what their audience say on twitter/chat (this DOESN'T apply to every girl because there are dirty girls out there)

7. Due to the restrictions from Youtube, the vtubers are unable to do more "racy" streams, which they really want to do to gain tons of red superchats. An example said was "Bikini 3D streams"

>>6224481
>do vtubers only care about money or have genuine fun streaming?
It varies from chuuba to chuuba. I would say most probably care about making a living while they also have fun doing it at the same time. While a few clearly just think of it as a job but don't really care about it. For my oshi specifically (Ina) I would say the money is entirely secondary to her.

>>6224481
It depends on the streamer. Pomu, Elira, and Finana definitely have a ton of genuine love for Vtubing. Whereas Calli is clearly in it for the money and fame.

>>6224481
>do vtubers only care about money
yeah they are woman that spend fortunes on shit


tl;dr they are consoomers

>>6224481
Mori doesn't care streaming and doesn't have fun, she is truly the ungrateful 5% bitch

>>6224894
>They're all lying bitches that secretly hate you, but none of them ever slip up and let it show despite streaming live for thousands of hours.
Yeah, I don't buy it. Some clearly don't give a fuck, but not the majority, at least for holos, I don't know much about nijis.

>>6224481
>>6224894

>>6225033
That's because your mind is currently in Denial phase

>>6224481
no, in fact my oshi hates money
Ame superchats have been off for a while now and she refuses to turn it on

>>6225033
You can tell from the typos and sentence structure that it's an esl, probably a Zhang posting.
No one with a functioning frontal lobe would go for a high risk job like vtubing solely for maybe getting a lot of money since that's dependent on their personality and avatar luck.
I know I wouldn't bother with a job that has a near 100% chance of getting me doxxed and stalked if I didn't enjoy it, regardless of how much I was being paid.
Unless the pay is enough to hire a PMC to guard me.

>>6224481
There are thousands of vtubers. Only 1% of them. Make actual money from this.

>>6225132
Just checked the archive and apparently it's an ancient copypasta, and she said all this before hololive was really a thing like it is today, so I guess he got a free (you) out of me.

>>6224963
I'd say calli is mostly in it for the money and fame, but I do think she is a genuinely interesting in ttrpg autism. She goes too high effort on those sessions to make me think otherwise.

>>6225033
This is copypasta

>>6225102
they were off only on the latest stream

all these corpo pro-shills trying to OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

>>6224481
they can have fun and still do it for money. i genuinely enjoy my job but i would stop showing up if they didn't pay me.

Mayuzumi hates getting SCs and only activates it to meme or in anniversaries because his fans were mas about him not turning them on...

sometimes it does feel like some of the top ones phone it in

>>6224481
they are all doing it for money
>what do you think made them start the cringe self shilling? who the fuck is proud of being an ugly ,fat,cringe lord hiding behind an anime girl they could never hope to look like.
/thread

>>6224481
>would your oshi shut up shop soon as the cash stop flowing?
Of course. It's their job after all. If they earn no money, they have to do something else and most people don't like having two full-time jobs.

>>6225598
>Mayuzumi
He still gets more than enough money to live from his agency. It's not that any big vtuber relies on sc money.

>>6225301
If you mean small vtubers below 5k subs then yes, they don't make much money (there are exceptions tho) but if you're in an agency, they pay you enough to stream full-time.

>>6224481
I mean she needs the cash for her mum's hospital bills, but I've never seen my oshi not have fun in a game stream. My girl legit loves games.

Her EOP fans, on the other hand...

>>6225102
Hot rrat
Ame knows that doing stuff like turning off supas to prevent being flush-chatted just adds to pent up demand, hurting her income short term but not long term and giving her publicity in the process. It's still her job anon.

>>6225087
>disables SC for no reason
>fake ends the stream losing thousands of viewers
this greedy bitch I swear to God

>>6224894
>2 year old lukewarm reheated leftover takes
have a (You) for your trouble

>>6225102
she's trying to avoid a higher tax bracket

>>6224894
Yeah, I realized this a while ago and stopped folllowing any vtubers as a result. It’s just another trick by women to get men’s money, no different from any other streamer. I just stick around vt for the drama and rrats at this point, couldn’t give less of a shit for the vwhores themselves.

>>6226044
or you can watch them without giving them any money. Have you tried that?

>>6224481
>would people who survive by being vtubers stop being vtubers if they could no longer survive by being vtubers?

Wow OP that's a hard hitting question it's too much for my smooth brain to handle

>>6224481
> do vtubers only care about money or have genuine fun streaming?
There are literally tens of thousands vtubers, each with different motivation. What's even the point asking?
There are a lot of indies who's channel not monetized, they don't have fanbox, there is zero income for them from streaming while they paid for avatar and commissions for art quite a bit. For them it's a hobby, they stream after busy day at work just to play vidya and socialize with vtubers like them and random strangers.
My oshi gets like $100 per month in superchats, hates her job and dreams about careless life when she could just do what she likes and earn a living that way instead. But she's not popular enough to make any decent money, and probably never will because she's doing only what she's genuinely enjoy rather than try to entertain or pander to a specific audience, she's not lewd, doesn't provide GFE, doesn't play popular games. She's a huge autist, so her activities are way too niche to attract many people. So she cares about money a lot, but still chooses the least profitable way. I'm afraid if someone starts shilling her and she'll become popular, she'd just quit because she's not prepared to deal with schizos and antis that she'd inevitably get.
For corporate chuubas, money is just one part of it, there is also attention and support from the fans that many chuubas develop attachment to. Look at this and say she was in it for the money: https://streamable.com/r3p82s She cried the whole graduation stream and stream before, she had next to no sleep in the last 48 hours that day, she just wanted to finish FFVIII before she's gone.
Watch Yuya's graduation: https://youtu.be/Y5hj2T7gdXA She will become a lawyer, and will make have much more stable and high income that way than by streaming in oversaturated market. After graduation stream on youtube, she had post-graduation stream on twitch, she was drunk, out of the character, and spoke only in korean, so I didn't understand shit, but what was clear is that though she said that korean fanbase is really shitty, she's genuinely regret giving up on her dream. That twitch stream was not archived, sadly.
Or watch Lulu's Ghost N' Goblins playthrough. Whole 30 hours of it. I've never seen a person enjoying playing the game so much, much less a ridiculously hard platformer. Throughout her career she never did anything to manipulate her audience into giving her more money, even though she could easily go GFE route. Instead she just played games like no one else could.
From holos, think Watame would stream even if she was not getting any money and had a day job. Streaming addiction is a thing.
Aloe/Deluta admitted that she previously only cared about the money and numbers. Now she relies on her savoiurfags as a therapy, they also pay for her living of course, but even if she had to find a job, she'd still need them for venting out.

>>6224894
>If they talk about being sick on twitter and need rest to feel better, it's either to spend time with their b*yfriends or vacation time for themselves.

Knowing Japanese work culture, this is actually normal and I don't blame them. Some of the worst antis are entitled NEETs who haven't worked a day in their lives but will go apeshit if a streamer takes a short holiday.

>The other voice chat is OOC (Out of character) and yes, it's personal talk, girl gossip and they do make fun of your cringy or hate posts on twitter about them.

Everyone already knows this.

> If the vtuber acts "super lewd" or "I'm a degenerate like you guys", it's SOMETIMES just an act to entertain the listeners

Duh. Look at like 70% of the indie scene on twitch that are able to get more than 100 viewers.

>>6224481
It really depends. I can see some doing it as a hobby even if they did not earn money with it, whereas others would not touch streaming let alone Vtuber with a pole if it did not make them cash.
There are small Vtubers who do not earn any money right now such as Kyaramel.

>>6224894
>Recently
Old copy pasta is old. If these girls all genuinely hated what they were doing there are other ways for women to make a lot more money more easily than vtubing. As an anecdote I am remembering an interview with a guy who runs a lot of camwhores and they actively avoid hiring prostitutes and strippers, because the two of a horrendous work ethic. They are not prepared to work 8-10 hour days because they are used to getting the amount of money on a couple of weekend nights what a working stiff gets during an entire 40 hour work week.

>>6224894
100% accurate for Nyanners.

>>6224894
>If they talk about being sick on twitter and need rest to feel better, it's either to spend time with their b*yfriends or vacation time for themselves
I do the same to my work.
>Some will play video games a lot because they hate interacting with their weirdo fans
I don't know how you're suppose to keep up with a chat with over a thousand viewers as it speeds by quickly and you're suppose to pay attention to something else at the same time.
>They're in it for the money, this is a business
Only the old guard do it for fun more so than money compared to new blood. Aka before Twitch arose.
>>6226044
Based. Women will always try to find ways to manipulate something out of a man. Now they can get money from men without being in a relationship with one, nor even being near them. I watch them because they ACT cute. They are actresses after all.

>>6226044
>Yeah, I realized this a while ago and stopped folllowing any vtubers as a result.
Then why the fuck you still here ?

>>6225428
Calli is very much "if I can't be creative, why bother, oh right shit bills to pay fuck" which is why she is how she is. She knows the importance of shilling and mildly GFE-esque Zatsudans (even if she kinda sucks at the shilling) but it's a huge part of the reason why she plays games regularly off-stream and keeps her streams short and tight, and why she only really looked up to Coco as a sempai.

Like I'm fine with Calli and I don't think any of the autist hate she gets is at all justified, but she clearly just sees this as a job which she tries to have fun with when she can, which is fine by me, even if I don't like her as much as, say, Kiara or Korone, who obviously love this job.

>>6226332
He said it himself, he's just a dramafag.

>>6226116
Not interested, once you see the facade for what it is the magic’s lost. Why give a single view to someone who thinks I’m pathetic and disgusting for the simple crime of liking her?

>>6226443
You must have absoloutely terrible self-esteem. Who hurt you bro?

>>6225940
no wonder Astel gave her a 6000 orangepa
he actually mean 6holomordor

>>6224894
I'm a vtuber who's streaming for years and I know how this shit works and while your statement is not wrong, it's also not really right.

1. First part is bullshit. If they say they have a headache and don't wanna stream, that's probably because they have a headache and don't wanna stream. That's human behavior, not a cult or some shit. The bait and guilt trap for SC is true tho, many streamers do this for donations and it works. Especially "cute" streamers do this all the time, they act even cuter because they know retards think it's real and give them money.

2. Or they play mostly video games because that's why they became vtubers? I mean, you stream on twitch for gaming, not to make mostly zatsudan streams where you just talk to viewers.

3. That's straight-up schizo trash

4. That's not a secret, it's their job and they don't want to work for the rest of their life.

5. That's true as stated in 1.

6. The lewd shit is not to entertain viewers, that's also the appeal to the retards. "Oh she's one of us!" it's just a way to get more money, as stated in 1.

7. That may be true but the reason is more that they don't want to be whores. Many streamers are like that but many prefer to not cross a line of embarrassment.

I don't care about all of this, just thought I'll correct a statement like this. We do like streaming and we do like money. Most of us do it because it's fun. It's getting stressful sometimes so it's hard to always love it but just think about all the other vtubers who stream for months or even years without getting a stable viewership.

>>6224481
>do vtubers only care about money or have genuine fun streaming?
Both, it’s a job but playing video games 3 times a week and getting paid in bucketloads of cash beats the hell out of most jobs. Vtubers love being vtubers because it’s a cushy job where they meet and make great friends - with other vtubers. Not with their fans, of course; the fans are just numbers. A means to an end. But vtubers genuinely love meeting and befriending other vtubers, most the time anyway.

>>6224894
JESAS thats a lot of newfags replying to a stale pasta

>>6224481
If you look into any vtuber's roommate's past they are almost always anywhere from "barely scraping by and running out of time" to "at the end of my rope pls just kill me."

I think the answer is pretty obvious.

>>6224481
>would your oshi shut up shop soon as the cash stop flowing?
90% of them would. Only Ina and Ame from EN would keep streaming.

>>6226012
>i have no idea how taxes work

>>6224681
how is aqua "special"?

>>6224481
>do a lazy ass 3 hour stream where you don't even have to show your real face
>play a game or just talk about random shit, make shit up even
>pander to lonely losers a bit here and there
>make thousands of dollars a day

No anon they really dai sooki you, they don't care about the money at all!

>>6227398
>Only Ina and Ame from EN would keep streaming.
Ina would ditch asap to do art. Ame relies on streaming, she has no form of income so she'll continue on her twitch.

>>6225301
>TL: 100% are trying to make money from vtubing, 1% succeed

>>6227451
She's mentally about 7 years old, and that's being generous.

>>6227678
>Ina would ditch asap to do art
Idk, I’ve followed various art streamers for years who just stream themselves doing art. I could see Ina switching to being an art streamer exclusively, albeit with a more erratic “I stream when I stream” schedule.

>>6227398
Gura, if we count her previous incarnations, streamed for nearly a fucking decade (and started to reap her fruits only during recent years). If she worked as entertainer for so long, doubt she gonna willingly drop any time soon.

>>6227375
Ikue otani looks genki and healthy she is going to be here for a few decades.

>>6225033
I could see there being some truth to it, but it's probably exaggerated. i.e. "there's this one time Ayame or whoever lied about being injured to get some supachas, so I'm gonna put that down as a main point as if the majority of chuubas do this regularly".

Another important thing to keep in mind though is that there's a huge difference between liking the job and liking your fans. i.e. you can love your coworkers but still think your fans are garbage. Or you can like your fans but only because they give you the attention and validation you crave; i.e. Kiara potentially.

kiara really cares about being popular, she would do hololive for free
i suspect calli would be quickest to leave, she sometimes refers to vtubing as a "job" which irks me

>>6224894
kek, I see this pasta is being put to good use.

thats why indies are so good. they hardly make money- so you can feel a lot of the genuine passion