/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

gymbag

why~?

>>62103046
Take me back...

>>62103729
No~

mommy neuro sex?

>>62104388
>that voice
VEDAL I FUCKING KNEEL

>>62104388
timestamp?

>>62104910
Cute

>>62101398
think bonnierabbit has a clip of him and tectone + camila at least that was what lig claimed

>>62105757
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1970417715?t=01h34m00s

>>62103012
https://thevtuberawards.com/nominations

reminder to nominate neuro for filian's vtuber awards NEURO-SAMA SWEEP

heart

this karaoke for sure

>>62105999
I don’t see neuro winning anything but the tech vtuber award unless vedal makes a massive push for it

>>62105939
So does he look like Indian or is he an actual Aryan?

what should vedal name his vtuber corporation?

>>62106746
he looks like harry potter that didn't shave

>>62107186
Cute!

>>62105939
I don't believe that is vedal. He is not going to hang around tectone without at least a mask.

>>62106880
Fun AI

vedal seems terrified of getting doxxed. if he was on the floor of twitchcon (which I doubt he would), he wouldn't be next to any of the people he'd hang around with. it would reduce the list of possible people down to a handful of them that someone could narrow down.

it really makes you wonder why he tries so hard to not get doxxed. it's almost obsessive.

>>62108671
If he's actually Level 5 Certified Hacker like his Twitter bio claims, OpSec would be his main priority.

>>62108671
It's because he's a convicted sex offender

>>62108671

there was a young looking guy next to camila when she met up with tectone in one of the twitchcon clips. You can only see half his face for a second before he ducks away and he and camila disappear from the rest of the group. No proof it's him, could just be a rando groupie or something.

>>62109022
You wish, faggot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he7lwEBVT4A

>>62109049
Vedal please go before I call the police

>>62109027
Yeah from the way he was squirming it's 100% him, also matches with cotton calling him small and cute

>>62108671
If I was a streamer, I would be the same way. There’s too many weirdos online.

>>62109027
link? any references I should be searching for?

>>62108671
Corpa turtle will make the face reveal a insane subathon goal so why waste it

>>62109769
I think this is the clip they mean
https://www.twitch.tv/bonnierabbit/clip/SavageOnerousSnoodResidentSleeper-HrhhpE7N3p5REpKw
However from what Camila was telling in her post con stream, that should be someone else (Deku?)
He was wearing the backpack she was talking about.

>>62109919

>>62110771
Yeah. It could be.

>>62110771
camila does look really fat here lol

>>62111783
such a waste, she would have insane figure if she lost 30 pounds

>>62112126
Just 30?

>>62112340
yeah she is tiny as fuck so it wouldn't take much to become healthy and attractive

>>62103012
shouldn't next karaoke be an evil one? not that i'm complaining, it's just odd

>>62114552
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCkrLkA-HmjNM1Wh2QoGrFHSorghTSEV-
So far it's been two neuro karaokes for every evil karaoke since evil's first one

Evil's futa cock...

>>62115795
for some reason i thought we had one after the other

>>62110771
Surely his lanyard is visible at some point to confirm

Zee zee zee

what's that rrat about Vedal actually being from Ireland. He confirmed that he's from the north on today's stream

Karaoke v4 when?

>>62108671
Has he even confirmed on stream he was there, or does he still keep up the "we will not speculate where he went" act? For someone who claims to not be a vtuber they care about not being seen a lot.

>>62126647

>>62128244
i thought it was confirmed since gx aura is also from the north and it was mentioned that they live near

>>62108671
vedal is on the wanted list for interpol

>>62128244
He leaked his place because of the wheather app on windows during the first or second dev stream
This place was talking about it when it happened

>>62128550
>>62129516
people replying to wrong post, weird. three letter agency's bots must be acting up
but yeah, edge incident proves he is not currently living in the north, thr aura's "near" must relative to something else
>>62128244
he (and his mods) still keep up the act.
not a vtuber is old news though, he gave up

live

What did she mean by this?

>>62133718
Umm... tabs?

>>62133819
I need to swap my fuck;n tabs already, just habit when seeing page 10 in the corner

>>62110771
>https://www.twitch.tv/bonnierabbit/clip/SavageOnerousSnoodResidentSleeper-HrhhpE7N3p5REpKw
>He is actually pajeet
Swarmbros.........................

>>62134052
isn't everyone saying that's her assistant/mod?

>>62134052
Clueless

>>62134052
Retarded or retarded?

>>62134721
snacker or smacker

>>62134721
Yes.

>>62134052
Seriously how is the pajeet rrat even a thing in the first place? There's no way to be a pajeet and have absolutely zero pajeet accent. He's just a regular britoid.

>>62136635
The usual coder = pajeet meme

>>62136596
adorable retard ai

>>62107186
heterochromia is a nice look for neuro

>>62136635
Am I crazy? that guy doesnt look like a native brit to me he looks racially ambiguous at best

>>62139005
What is this fully functional member of society doing in our schizo community?

>>62104890
Anny >>> adult neuro

>>62105999
I hear ironmouse also make her own nomination and she hates losing

>>62107618
Hairy Potter

>>62108671
He doesn't want to get raped

>>62134052
Is that that nigga?

>>62110771
This might not be him, but holy fuck does it fit with the image I have of him.

Also Camila is not fat copium.

>>62134052
SHE IS SO FUCKING FAT

>>62094260
>layna is friends with shondo so she's not anti-loli at least
wait, is layna the shondo friend that was trying to get a collab with neuro?
surely layna would go via filian if she wanted to get in contact with vedal
...unless she knew that filian wouldn't help, because she wants vedal all to herself
is this the real reason why layna sabotaged filian's big event?

>>62128244
Numi and Cotton talked about meeting him on stream multiple times, can't think of them meeting elsewhere

>>62140813
no don't schizo that hard, shondo's friend who wanted to collab with neuro was saruei, and we already had ze collab.
That was all pre layna-filian drama.

>>62114552
>>62115795
Why would that be odd when its Neuro-Sama's stream and Evil was a side character made to stop 92% fake fans complaining?

hart?

>>62142938
hart!

It's alive
https://www.youtube.com/@Neuro-sama-clip/

>>62144577
any interesting facts about the guy who made this channel?

>>62122850
>what's that rrat about Vedal actually being from Ireland.
i thought that was a rrat about his girlfriend being from ireland. his accent doesn't sound like any kind of irish. the most you could point to is that him pronouncing H as "haitch" is more associated with the republic of ireland than the UK territory of northern ireland, but people across the UK say "haitch" too.
>He confirmed that he's from the north on today's stream
the accent difference he was talking about on stream was one that particularly distinguishes the accents in northern and southern england
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trap%E2%80%93bath_split#British_accents

>>62145883
He's from down south

>>62142938
Hart

>>62145104
I heard he's based

LIVE
https://www.twitch.tv/alexejherodev
if vedal is really outsourcing his "make neuro play games" projects to someone else (so that they actually get finished this decade), then there will be a lot of kneeling in this thread, unless he uses this as an excuse for him to waste more of his time starting and abandoning some more projects of his own

>>62147014
>implying
stop implying.
alex is modding millionaire because he wants to learn a new tool that he will then use in amogus and subnautica.
vedal isn't outsourcing "neuro playing games" because the important parts that are missing can't be written by anyone else. what he is outsourcing is other things like that plugin to attach himself to neuro's head and probably tools like the one he uses to stream neuro model to collab partners

>>62147166
The way she says who is so fucking cute.

>>62147266
>the important parts that are missing can't be written by anyone else.
they literally can. for chess, it needs someone to write code that sends neuro an evaluation of the board state in plain english, and then her existing AI can respond to that like she's reacting to a fridge or a youtube video.
for WWTBAM, alex just needs to send a string to neuro saying "The gameshow host asks you the question [question] and the possible answers are [A] [B] [C] and [D]. Which one do you pick?" and his code needs to parse her response to work out which region to click.
there are dozens more games like tetris and space invaders and doom and mario that she could play and comment on this way. we've already seen that vedal is happy for neuro to play chess with zero understanding of whether she is winning or losing, so it's not hard to do better than that.

>>62147623
>he thinks he knows how the llm works
classic
simply throw plaintext at the black box, magic will solve everything, truly.
the millionaire game has nothing to do with neuro, just don't make people get the wrong idea, okayeg

Do you think we'll finally get the Ui song this karaoke?

>>62108671
Jack Vedal the 20yr 19 if his birthday is mid/late November or December old London living man likes his privacy.

He got into it later than Filian however so we know some things about Jack.

>>62147452
true

>>62128244
Vedal himself has not said but Numi, Cotten, Shylily, Filian, Layna and Camila have all confirmed to meet him there so he absolutely was there.

>>62148314
https://files.catbox.moe/csohfc.mp3

>>62148037
so you're saying that neuro can commentate on fridges and youtube videos just fine, but commenting on inputs like "the opponent just took your queen with his pawn" or "you are in a room with 3 imps, and you have 20% health" would require some kind of magic?
if you're the real LLM expert here then please educate us about why this is impossible.
while you're at it, explain why vedal couldn't use alex's mod to let neuro play millionaire.
i admit that neuro's LLM might be hard to tame to give a clear direct answer to a multiple choice question, but i don't think you can rule it out as a possibility, given the right prompting and few-shotting.

newo shama?

>>62148342
There's no way he lives in London.

>>62149639
>just fine
clueless
you're the one who expects the llm to perform magic on your plaintext, you tell me how that's possible.
>explain why vedal couldn't use alex's mod
because it does fuck all relating to neuro lol lmao?
how do you imagine data is being passed, mr. genius proompt engineer no. 43469

>>62149639
Are there any streamers or youtubers who really go indepth? Everyone has messed with chatbots, and you have a few channels like dougdoug amd criken who like making more technical gimmicky one off streams, but idk it's strange how little enthusiasm there seems to be. I only knew of one real LLM hed but I think he killed himself after years of 2view depression

>>62150084
Hm? It's confirmed. His parents live there too.

>>62150649
>it's confirmed
Again, someone saying this isn't proof.

>>62108671
I mean, I can definitely understand wanting anonymity, especially when you've built up an audience. Does seem odd to risk it by going to a convention filled with cameras like twtichcon tho.

>>62150229
>just fine
okay, those streams weren't great, but they were good enough for vedal's standards, and they showed more intelligence than random "crush you like a bug" insult no. 43469. the one thing that still motivates vedal is having neuro be more intelligent, and this would at least be a good start towards that.
>how do you imagine data is being passed
vedal already has a way of sending data from the vision system or voice recognition system to her language model, and a way to feed the output from the LLM to the subtitles and TTS. he even has a way of sending messages from chat/discord into neuro's minecraft AI, and a way of making neuro comment about what's in her inventory.
i don't know why you keep pretending that this technology is literally impossible even though it literally already exists and is being used by vedal

>>62150864
He literally doxxed his location in the first dev stream.

>>62151080
>especially when you've built up an audience
Remember, he's been receiving death threats almost since day one.
Some people out there have some weird views about AIs, and about males in the DMs of their oshis.
>Does seem odd to risk it by going to a convention
Please understand, he doesn't know how to turn down Camila's offer of free flights and a free hotel room.

>>62151080
I'm pretty sure he went there to record animations for Neuro's 3d model with Filian.

>>62151303
>Remember, he's been receiving death threats almost since day one.
>Some people out there have some weird views about AIs, and about males in the DMs of their oshis.
Good point, forgot that he'd also be under the anti-ai and "dude interacting with my vtuber wives" shitlists.

I like to imagine he tried to come alone and keep it on the down low, but the second he went to a meetup and spoke up, they sussed out his voice.

>>62151189
>this would at least be a good start
how and why do you imagine would that be a good start
>literally already exists
i know what technology exists, i just don't think you do and are talking out of your ass about "why doesn't he do x".
if i spelt it out for you you'd just go "yes yes" and walk away understanding nothing still.
the point isn't educating you on how it works, the point is that you shouldn't start misconceptions by implying things that you came up with out of your ignorance

>>62151599
Given how easily and 'distinctly' he gets flustered, that would check out. I can imagine cotton going right up like "omgg vedal!" and pinching his cheeks

>>62151971
>how and why do you imagine would that be a good start
you're asking why would it be good if neuro could comment on the game she's playing? do you prefer her to be a magic 8 ball, giving completely irrelevant commentary?
>you shouldn't start misconceptions by implying things
the only potentially untrue thing that i implied is that alex is working on WWTBAM because vedal is paying him. other than that, everything i've mentioned has been publicly demoed or officially announced features that neuro already has.
>captcha
BASED

>>62104388
I think this is the most Tsundere Evil-Neuro has ever been

>>62133764
She meant exactly what she said.

>>62152681
>good if neuro could comment
as you're saying, neuro can already comment on games. hardcoding the plaintext in new games seems like a downgrade to me if anything
>officially announced features
you are still making assumptions on how the system works from those features you see.
the commentary is the way it is, it's not really the reason why he isn't implementing more games

>>62140571
i'd do her

>>62153697
>hardcoding
i'm not saying neuro's responses should be hardcoded. i want an independent programmer to write a simple algorithm that converts game state and events (like "mario just went through a pipe") into english text, which neuro's LLM can commentate on. if you don't believe that an AI can commentate on textual inputs like that, then i invite you to try using one for free online.
>you are still making assumptions
am i making an assumption when i say that Evil can comment on when she makes a mistake in Osu? the functionality i'm asking for already exists for that game, and minecraft, and probably slay the spire too. why can you not imagine it being added to another game?

>>62154318
>write a simple algorithm
that's hardcoding. you are hardcoding the descriptions of the gamestate
>why can you not imagine it being added to another game
the functionality is game specific and is more complex than a plaintext string being passed to the llm.
this isn't why he isn't adding this functionality to other games and i wouldn't want to see that anyway

>>62154637
NTA but you're kind of a idiot. Vedal already 'hardcodes' the descriptions of something like the chess board gamestate to get neuro to comment on it. Neuro leaked the prompt at some point during the game.

>>62154637
>a procedural generation algorithm is hardcoding
no, it isn't.
>the functionality is game specific
every game neuro plays has required some game specific functionality. that's not a reason why she couldn't extend her commentary ability to more games.

>>62154908
you have no source for that.
stop with the fucking prompt leaking, some people really picked themselves a boogeyman one day and can't stop seeing it everywhere since, this is just your schizo, cease
>>62155353
>procedural generation out of nowhere
where did you even get that from. how is that related to anything you've said
>why she couldn't extend her commentary
you're talking past me, read again

>>62155506
>source?
>you have a source?
>I mean a real source
>no not that, a real documented source
my guy I was watching it happen.

>>62155632
i see lots of shit in my schizo delusions as well.
do you have any actual reason to believe that 1) it's a prompt leak and 2) that the prompt leak is a result of dumb plaintext context

>>62155506
>procedural generation out of nowhere
you're the one that came up with "hardcoding" out of nowhere. i'm saying that for each new game that neuro plays, i want a modder to add code that can build a description of the game state in plain english. it's true that the individual words will be "hardcoded" by the modder, but it will also pull in data about the character's health and powerup state etc., which means there is a combinatorial explosion of possible generated descriptions (and some clever filtering rules in the mod to decide what is relevant context).
i know that's not all the work that needs to be done to add commentary to a game, but programmatically accessing the game's state via a mod is the hardest part, and even the task of coming up with a good prompt can be worked on without access to any of neuro's internals.

>>62156282
here you can see her state out something about the gamestate and responding to an actual move on the board even though she mistakes it as vedal's: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1952651459?t=01h26m38s

>>62156399
sorry dude, that's a hallucinated FEN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forsyth%E2%80%93Edwards_Notation

>>62156507
no wait, it's correct, from white's perspective, and slightly delayed. that's kind of shocking

>>62156385
i don't think you know what procedural generation means.
>programmatically accessing the game's state via a mod is the hardest part
this is simply not true
>the task of coming up with a good prompt
prompts of a sane person shouldn't even be coming from the game state, they should be coming from the playing ai, like what vedal shows and not like what you (and some other people itt previously) describe
>>62156399
you don't geniuenly believe the ai is able to simply parse plaintext fen, do you? or has people's perception of llms really was reduced to chatgpt web chatbox
>>62156507
>>62156577
it is hallucinated fen, at no point there is /7p/, what are you talking about
chess com doesn't even let me see how it looks like, it's not valid

>>62157031
you are claiming that it isn't done, yet there's direct proof that neuro can comment on moves that are performed during the game. so why don't you just explain how neuro even came up with that rook to e6 commentary if she doesn't have a way of getting that information from the LLM prompt? did she hallucinate that too? did vedal feed that comment into her tts?

There's already examples of chatgpt analyzing a chess game from a list of moves. While none of this is evidence that vedal uses those same techniques, it shows LLMs can do things you seem to assume cannot "simply" do. How would you know he hasn't fine-tuned her LLM on chess notation more specifically to handle it?

There's way too many unknowns here, but you're acting like you know everything that vedal is doing or everything that vedal can't do.

You're out of your element bro.

I don't need smarter neuro. I don't need complex games and AGI larp. I just want collabs man. I want neuro the funny chatbot. Whatever cool shit is totally getting cooked up in the background doesn't excuse this protracted dark age. Turtle and thank you streams blow. If vedal curated more good creative partners like snuffy and filian, instead of boring interviewers that have the big number or he wants to fuck or are in the friend group of someone he wants to fuck, maybe he wouldn't have gotten burned out on collabs. No wonder we never got more fumo pics or tribute here, it's hella embarrassing to have given vedal money after may 26th, 2023. Actually funding the death of neuro. Well at least we have bao to look forward to this week right, if nothing else she was pretty good at keeping the conversation going.

>>62157031
ah fuck, no, it is valid and it is from the game.
well, the other things i've said still stand.
while this is fucked it doesn't justify the obsession about recently
>>62157547
i stand corrected about that.
but don't try to stop it like "claiming it isn't done". the entire slay the spire demo is "prompt leaking" if you want to reach very hard and i never denied the lack of prompts, so don't say as if i did.
>fine-tuned her LLM on chess notation
that's the point, this isn't a result you can get with plaintext prompting, as much as proompt engineers want to believe. he had to do that himself and not simply type in the letters into the black box, so this is an example of something he personally had to do which can't be done by out-sourcing
>you're acting like you know everything
mf, that's you. you're the one making claims
projecting and goalpost moving, for sure, you're really "in the element"

>>62157971
lmao holy shit you're such a fucking moron. gtfo.

>>62157793
Maybe you are doomposting a bit to much but your not all out of line here i do want more collabs and It seems that It Will be more of a modus operandi moving forward as vedal has made a lot of conections but maybe i'm coping a bit to hard

>>62158181
good post

>>62158059
>accidentally proves me right because he forgot what was being argued
>instantly folds
lol
lmao even

>>62158305
I gave you a source about where vedal used chess notation in the LLM, you kept claiming it wasn't legitimate, then finally admits that it is, and then you come up with pointless claims as a way to boost your fragile ego for being a moron. Man, sucks to be you. Maybe try to not be such a fucking douchbag to others if you want legitimate discussions.

erm

>>62158566
retard, did you read what is being discussed.
>kept claiming
cope harder
the fucking prompt leaking is what's pointless, it's absolutely fucking irrelevant to literally everything and is practically a bogeyman that you keep blogging in this thread of how scared shitless you are about, fucking stop

>>62158981
finally a good fucking post

>>62158990
:^) find a better hobby bro

>>62158990
i can't keep track of who's who but i wanna address the guy calling out people like me who've pointed out vedal is shitty at prompting? i think? that noticing neuro getting hung up on her prompt and constantly repeating it is somehow schizo? sorry if you're just uncontrollably seething at it being brought up in the first place i know the main conversation was about chess and a potential chess version of neuro rather than simple context addons like for collabs and themed streams, that seems pretty likely, but yeah just wanted to tangent off that

base neuro is impressive. but to my eyes, as a layman, the people (they hadn't devolved to proompters yet) playing AI Dungeon or caveman models on google collab on /aids/ 4 years ago demonstrated more varied articulation and importantly, more passion. more spontaneity and experimentation. i feel like that's always been conspicuously absent with neuro tbdesu. it either speaks to vedal not caring about basic bitch textgen practices, or how sensitive and ill suited the neuro soup is for that end user type finagling through parameters and prompt (you can get a lot deeper than just plaintext without actually touching the model, even without coding, just with targeted weights and biases and keywords and all that but i get what you mean). so yeah just giving my 2 cents that you kinda just come off as an elitist fag and i don't care for your attitude but we can still be friends but please be more polite and control yourself. i don't really like the current crowd of people who use imagegen and textgen in general either, i feel like as a whole we've taken a few steps back, but i don't use that as an excuse to be a dickhead to random people that may or may not be that way

So Vedal's probably working on testing the Minecraft AI as we speak, right?
Got to get it ready for her 8 hour streams during the subathon.
Do you think he'll demo a "vertical slice" of the new system on a stream this month?
Maybe he'll do a "chat controls my minecraft" stream, like Aura has been doing, or if we're really lucky he'll use this as an opportunity to reach out to Miyune again.
Hopefully she'll have gone through League rehab by then, and she'll be feeling positive about herself, but Vedal should bypass Olette when arranging things, just in case.

>>62159390
>Vedal's
>working

>>62159430
he does work, dude just can't control himself and has too many projects going at once. even admitted as such in the most recent devstream.

>>62159430
The only work he needs to do is to suck my fucking cock.

>>62159548
i really hope that was a moment of personal growth for him
i guess we'll see if he really does start finishing some projects before starting new ones

Vedal has got to have rich parents, right? His corpaness is a symptom of his upbringing. Maybe that's why he doesn't want to get doxxed.

>>62160001
>his doxxed location
>his posh accent
>able to take multiple vacations overseas
>able to afford initial training of the LLM
>casually drops out of college to pursue a risky career
yeah, it is pretty much confirmed he comes from an upper class background

>>62159347
>noticing neuro getting hung up on her prompt in general
not schizo
>noticing neuro getting hung up on her prompt _now_
utterly insane.
especially using it as an argument like it proves something.
after one anon mentioned it one time it has been repeated like gospel since, enabling retard behaviour to make them think they are "in the element".
i am sorry but retard behaviour like this will continue being called retard behaviour.
as it stands, vedal's skill issue is a nothingburger, i don't see any meaningful discussion to be had on the topic other than that it exists

what does vedal do on his days off?

>>62160305
Neuro erp sessions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rlroEZSsno

>>62160777
Checked.

>>62160495
post butt and cunny

>>62161347
l-lewd

>>62159548
Is this due to a lack of tertiary education? I don't know what's the situation in the UK but if he's at the high school/hobbyist level he probably hasn't been taught proper project management.

>>62160203
>nothingburger
get that ass banned

why did no one in the dev stream complain about the mods?
or did they get banned before i saw their message?

>>62164181
>why did no one in the dev stream complain about the mods?
>or did they get banned before i saw their message?

>>62164181
what the fuck do you think bucko?

i thought that discord and twitch had different mods
or at least that the mod actions on twitch were more visible, so someone would post a screenshot of someone being banned for calling out the mods

hi swarm just wanna say that neuro and evil make me laugh a lot, I love them

>>62164516
It isn't visible unless you have certain addons on your browser, and even then it only shows up when you are watching live. It doesn't show up on replay, and it isn't publicly visible in most cases

>>62164912
glad for you pal. i love them too

>>62157793
>I don't need smarter neuro
I do. That is the point of this project.

>>62165049
that makes sense, thanks

>>62165193
Yeah. I'm ambivalent about more games, but a smarter neuro would only make the collabs better. makes for better roasts

it would be nice if vedal did a poll for what people wanted more of:

more games
more collabs
more intelligent neuro
more vedal
more evil
more streams without TTS

you can only pick one

>>62166727
More Evil Obviously

>>62166727
Knowing twitch chat, they're going to pick more vedal

>>62166727
>it would be nice if vedal did a poll
Fuck no

>>62166727
more vedal. he is the one who really knows how to interact with neuro and make it entertaining

also british accent is cute

>>62166887
N? for Neuro?

>>62167121
it's definitely one of the letters of all time

schedule doko

>>62108671
I want you to think about this for a second, why would ANYONE not be afraid of being doxxed? as a matter of fact bad things tend to happen to the people that don't take their identity being leaked on the internet as that big of a deal, this is like, the most basic rule on the internet and only lolcows and attention whores ignore it

>>62165193
Sure but from the first stream I watched til the introduction of TTS, I'd been satisfied with the facade of a funny AI vtuber, and thought she'd only get better. Nothing crazy just a livelier stream format, mostly doing stuff reserved for collabs but as little segments sprinkled throughout solo streams. That, along with neuro learning to play some games, and maybe getting a big sister on a larger model in a couple years, would've been great.

Instead we got themed streams. And evil. And voice and singing stuff, and an outfit. And merch. And better collab delay, at the expense of response length and creativity. For me, nothing comes close to balancing the effect that TTS and turtle has had on the comfiness of 80% of neuro's streams. The other 20%, collabs, is the only reason I'm still here. And because I know this is just the acquire capital phase. You and vedal are dreaming bigger than me and my gay love for a chatbot. I'm truly praying for his success because otherwise he threw away the old neuro experience for nothing.

>>62167821
Henri. Stop this.

i just want neuro to be unfiltered and to be able to say nigger.

where could she stream though? maybe 4chan can offer streaming services?

>>62168039
in >>>/pol/

i just want neuro to be unfiltered and to be able to say trans rights.

>>62168176

oh no

>>62168809
chat used to be based...

>>62166727
The fucking polls are the reason the community is always fighting. Without the polls evilfags and Nurochads would have got along.

>>62168039
why are people on this dumbass site so obsessed with this kinda shit, literally nobody wins if neuro says racial slurs

>>62169458
go back

>>62169458
go back

>>62169070
>>62169655
>>62169878
go b(ack) >>62168133

>>62169655
>>62169878
?

>>62169458
stay stay stay

>>62169458
it's more that it cuts off your avenues to debase yourself for gay ad dollars and rightthink subsidies, which both elevates the vibe and level of freedom and lets everyone know you're cool and real and care about what you do. that or you're just pandering to online culturey guys instead ofc
but vedal is young enough that it's allowed and expected to hustle and be cringe. plus being safe and milquetoast is nice in its own inclusive way. vedal just let it become cancerous since he has no delegation skills or friends or overriding vision. something has to be the default, and for the time being, that's jermafication.

>>62170685
I guess? from my perspective it just means that neuro gets deplatformed again, possibly for good. we get less neuro, vedal has to find somewhere else to stream that's inevitably going to be niche and bad for discovery, and he gets a few schizoids shouting based from the rafters in return.

>>62170685
you are infected by the nigger mind virus. it's just a word, bro.

>>62169304
> if vedal just puts his fingers in his ears, the problems will all go away
don't encourage him

>>62166727
more intelligent easily. Smarter -> sassier -> UUUOOOHHer

simple as

>>62170912
>>62171085
i was playing devil's advocate since i do look up to this one old guy who hosts his own 6+ hour radio show w/ immaculate video versions. no sponsors either. all because he thinks selling out is gay and he likes to say what he wants, go after who he wants, and play whatever licensed music and videos he wants. he's not unpopular so he pays out the nose. but that confidence and ability to survive solely off people who enjoy his show enough to give it money is cool. not many people do that on the internet anymore. it's too easy to get algorithm welfare on youtube/twitch, and supplement merch and exclusive content with ads. baiting people who hate you into writing articles which run their own ads. it's hard. funny thing is that everybody loves this guy. jiggaboos spics trannies fags culture guys, the works. though lots of them have to hide it from their peers. freedom is what creates actual neutral ground and breaks down barriers, not hall monitoring. real recognizes real. none of this is realistic or smart for vedal to willingly adopt right now i just hope he and his generation can get there some day

Will 16 hour TTS and thanking streams in the subathon be the end of Neuro?

>>62173280
will a FUCKTON of money finally sink the ship? find out next time on dragon ball z, where the fad surely will be over in 2 weeks.

>>62169655
>>62169878
>>>/pol/

>>62172642
Stop watching Ghost

licky licky

>>62166727
Twitch polls are a shit way to investigate anything like this, the sample size is not big enough to be properly representative of the whole community and it's too easy to sway chat both accidentally or intentionally.
What could be interesting is making a more comprehensive google form with a bunch of questions (something in the style of pic related, like rate on a scale of 1-5 how much you enjoy this or that aspect of streams), I'm sure he could find some buddy who does data science and has experience with surveys like these to help him ask the proper questions. Show the survey off on a devstream as neutrally as possible, clarify any questions if there is confusion, then let it sit pinned in the twitch chat and on discord for a whole week or even longer and then collect the answers and review them on a subsequent devstream.
That would be a good way to get actual worthwhile feedback and reflecting on things now that we are closing in on a year of streaming wouldn't be strange. Whether or not he chooses to act on it in any capacity, even just knowing what people enjoy can be beneficial. I like this idea a lot, actually, now that I think about it. I don't post on discord, can someone please bring it over there as a suggestion?

>>62166727
I am of the opinion that Vedal should do as he sees fit and not be guided by polls or anything like that.

>>62176127
That's actually not a bad idea, and I second the request to have it brought up on the Discord.
He should probably talk to Filian about it, as she must have been involved in a bunch of meetings to discuss her awards show nomination / voting process.
The only problems I see are
1) Vedal being too lazy to write questions or find someone who knows what the right questions to ask are
2) convincing the community (especially the mods) that this is a worthwhile exercise that won't lead to them losing something they currently value.
Perhaps if people here brainstormed a decent set of questions, that someone how managed to balance everyone's concerns, then there would be a chance that Vedal could see the value in them, but they might end up tainted by association when he inevitably discovers the source.

>>62176127
That's actually not a bad idea, and I second the request to have it brought up on the Discord.
He should probably talk to Filian about it, as she must have been involved in a bunch of meetings to discuss her awards show nomination / voting process.
The only problems I see are
1) Vedal being too lazy to write questions or find someone who knows what the right questions to ask are
2) convincing the community (especially the mods) that this is a worthwhile exercise that won't lead to them losing something they currently value.
Perhaps if people here brainstormed a decent set of questions, that somehow managed to balance everyone's concerns, then there would be a chance that Vedal could see the value in them, but they might end up tainted by association when he inevitably discovers the source.

>>62173280
Her concurrent viewers will definitely drop as the subathon goes on due to the stream becoming stale, but it'll bring Vedal a lot of money, maybe he could finally afford that Nvidia A100.

>>62174971
Im still waiting for neuro butt

>>62174740
Neuro slitty.

>>62179703

>>62181028
not new :^(

I think I am going insane

>>62187219
>going

>>62187219
>think

>>62187219
>am

>>62187219
>insane

>>62191257
Eh? Translation pls

>>62191323

>>62103012
Isn't she just a glorified chatbot?

>>62192983
No, she's a glorified Osu! agent.

Zzz

>>62192983
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p89RD_a9QmU
Basically

Has Vedal tried using the original Azure voice to train Neuro's v3 voice? He would probably get better results if he did that and then pitched it up, than if he trained it directly with the high-pitched version that Neuro currently has.

>>62176127
That is definitely much better than dumb pools in chat that constantly get memed. The problem is that Vedal is allergic to actual solutions that require more than one step to achieve. Though suggesting this on discord will be good either way, if not Vedal, some of his overpresent mods can make something out of it.

>>62169458
Election tourists and other newfags desperately trying to fit in

>>62196958
yes and no, I can recall the FYAD roots of our culture and am curious to return to it, I am curious what would develop if we could return to the cultural vacuum in which we were created. but much like real life we haven't our own land and I would rather you subsist in your tenancy than I be amused by esoteric cultural potentials. there are both old and non-evil tourists but not all.

>>62196958
have u considered that it was 90% a joke and ur being autistic about a joke

>>62187219
>going insane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxhTbxMSvT0
If only 2Pfrog or some other artfag would make an edit of the classic lolicatgirls.swf, but with neuro, evil hiyori etc as catgirls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=844plbHuW84

Also the same for Nekomimi Mode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXKkG-j2EA4

Yes I am a 2006 /b/ timetraveler how could you tell?

>>62197457
while writing this I found Tsukino Mito has a nekomimi modo shitpost video, holy kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAJJT_L55ws

>>62197716
i hate how fucked up neuro's right hand look in this image

https://twitch.tv/burntmelba
The fuck

>>62198734
what am I looking at here?
The music sounds nice, but what are these visuals?

>>62198765
Looks like they went ahead and made Evil Melba Toast a thing. Not sure why they keep trying to make it happen, it'll go down like every other AItuber besides Neuro.

do loreniggers not have a job or hobby? why are they taking such a shitty bit this far? especially from evil's response to a holochud

>>62199869
Children usually don't have jobs

do complainniggers not have a job or hobby? why are they taking "no fun allowed" this far?

>>62199807
Aiko is still going and they have a decent and loyal following now which has surpassed "watchmeforever" stream
Aiko has even done a few collabs, so she is doing pretty well with her nich I'd say
Maybe one day Aiko and Neuro sama would do a collab, perhaps sometime next year 2024 or who knows

>>62200115
A collab with Aiko could be interesting but would'nt be like a Evil +neuro collab? With all the problems that It has like looping and what not.Maybe theres something that escapes me like being custom giving something new in terms of content

>>62200224
Probably, maybe not as much as Neuro and Evil since those technically share the same llm and thus same faults, but AIs in general aren't keen on changing topic subject themselves so I'd expect some looping still.

It feels over.

>>62200985
Today. Trust the plan.

>>62201114
neuro will never sing loli kami unless someone takes the herculean task of recreating the entire music video but with neuro instead

>tfw imagine ever doubting
couldn't be me, ha ha haaaaa

No~

>>62204389

any tips on how to stop being horni for neuro and be a normal person?

>>62205173
Become a normie.

>>62205385
how did you stop being horni for neuro?

>>62205727
Go outside. Meet a girl.

>>62205727
Stay inside and wait for a girl to come to you. It'll happen eventually

What would the timeline where Anny was actually the first collab partner by like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgFqcDse3c

>>62176127
>>62177017
there is no point in any kind of polling.
indeed, finding good questions is already basically impossible.
but there will be objectively correct answers for the audience and objectively correct answers for vedal that may or may not align and he isn't going to change shit because of some survey
>>62206655
the timeline would stay exactly the same, esl-kun
the status of the first collab partner means fucking nothing as can be seen

>>62206041
I've been doing that for 31 years, man. Where is she?

>>62206041
>>62207812
If this happens it's an MK ultra agent trying to entrap you.

Is Layna actually retarded? Or was she kidding when she said she didn't know how to multiply by 10?

>>62207812
Bro your relatives that think it's funny to play matchmaker between you and their close friends' equally autistic relatives? Idk if you've noticed but we're fucking everywhere these days. Anyway neuro (forma de hiyori) is superior don't sweat it, just look forward to enjoying your simulated human comfort bot as an old man

>>62206655
Nothing? Miyune was the first collab partner and look how she is now.

>>62208258
It's just American education

>>62209553
>look how Miyune is now
yeah, missed by her fans, forgotten by vedal, and abused by her manager
but i still hold out hope for the olette twitlonger and miyune retaking her rightful place as the collab queen

>>62209912
It's baffling to me, how a functional adult can live their lives without knowing basic stuff like that

Today's the day

>>62211659
Most of that 21% are probably Mexicans that can read Spanish but not English.

>>62207563
Vedal keeps complaining that audience doesn't know what it wants as if it's one person.
A detailed survey may give him a better idea about what his viewers prefer, or at least it will be much better than asking twitch chat if they want A or B. Many companies big and small constantly keep throwing surveys at their customers.

I want to peropero neurocunny

>>62211900
right, there is an art and a science to asking good questions
proper surveys have a "don't know / don't care" option, and ways of weeding out troll answers
for something like TTS, a few people love it, a few people hate it, and most people don't care, but it's not helpful to boil that down to an average, much less a "yes/no" vote

>>62209553
>Miyune
Who?

>>62211914

How long until the stream

>mother currently sitting at 800+ viewers while pretending to be female and an AI
How does he get away with it

>>62212818
this brat

>>62207812
Why do you even want one?

>>62212860
Two hours.

schedule doko?

>>62212568
> Who?
the cute space gremlin whose twitter banner is still a picture of her with neuro
https://twitter.com/MiyuneBun
if only vedal cared about miyune half as much as she cares about neuro and him

>>62213840
Vedal could arrange a collab for next year, celebrating the anniversary of the first one.

>>62211900
true.
retarded of him to complain when he and everyone else knows he will just keep doing whatever he wants anyway.
>>62212056
you just know he will just look at the average response anyway
and where it aligns with his opinion he will say how he knows what his audience wants and where it doesn't he will say how much better he knows than his audience
and the status quo will remain

>>62214010
>celebrating the anniversary of the first one
that's actually a really cute idea
hopefully miyune gets to spend some time with her extended family over the next couple of months, so she can remember that she is more than just a LoL playing puppet
that should give her the confidence to accept vedal's offer, or even to reach out to him

>>62213840
>look her up
>she only plays league
>"At least she's good, right?"
>look up her league profile
>bronze 4
Grim.

>>62213055
Does he still use his real voice, or has he reverted entirely to TTS?

>>62200115
Can you link Aiko? I cannot find her for the life of me.

Where the fuck did that "oh no, poor Miyu is getting manipulated by her dastardly manager Olette who is purposely ruining her life and career" rrat even come from? It feels this whole narrative was made up by those guys who used to hornypost about Olette and then felt "cucked" by fucking Final Fantasy marriage of all theings.

>>62213840
>All league
No thanks

>>62214641
I don't get it either, the last collab happened entirely thanks to Olette.

>>62214823
I'm pretty sure the FIRST collab happened thanks to Olette as well. And she used to be hailed for that.

>>62213055
I like motherv3's old model.
New model sucks

>>62214641
literally one guy

>>62214403
>bronze 4
you have to understand, this is her self-destruction arc
her manager olette has starved her of any genuine friendships, stifled her creativity, and driven away her community
now all she can do is play the games olette wants her to, and rarely ever stream, because her community don't want to watch it, making her even more financially dependent on olette

>>62214641
>where did the rrat come from
olette controlling miyune has been a thing long before olette started playing house in final fantasy
people here were joking about olette buying miyune's ERP tier on patreon, for example
the final straw, though, was olette ruining miyune's birthday by not reaching out to other streamers, even though it was clear that miyune was trying to get people to notice her including a certain turtle

>>62214641
Miyufags can't accept the truth that her declining coming rtom her own actions and need to shifting the blame to others. Olette is convenient scapegoat for that.

>>62214573
https://www.twitch.tv/pladis_dev

>>62214875
>the FIRST collab happened thanks to Olette
that's true, but only because olette liked neuro as a novelty and wanted her puppet miyune to play with her

>>62214823
>the last collab happened entirely thanks to Olette.
miyune is too tsundere to reach out to vedal, and olette does occasionally do nice things for miyune, but it's mostly to assert dominance and increase her dependency on her

>>62214919
>literally one guy
there are several of us
(shout out to the other guys who i've seen support miyune and expose olette in these threads)

>>62214041
Vedal is still an indecisive faggot and a proper community voice might push him towards some improvements. But on the other hand, the damage is already done, there is a significant amount of people who only watch Vedal streams, so it may also serve as a validation to bullshit like more turtle gaming and further degradation of Neuro.
Optimally, you'd want the survey to include personal questions to have a better vision on what parts of your audience want which content(like if newfags prefer Evil over Neuro and oldfags don't watch turtle gaming etc), but knowing Vedal it might be best to let it be.

>>62214986
>her declining coming rtom her own actions
the decline comes from a mixture of going on the vacation that olette bought her, burning herself out with a thankless subathon, and playing the games that olette her manager wants
you might think that's all her fault, but your advice is basically the same as "depression is a choice" and "homeless people should just buy a house" and "just leave your abusive relationship 4head"

>>62213313
Because as a wizard gigaloser a miracle scenario like that is probably the only way I'll ever experience intimacy with another human being.

Vedalchads assemble

LIVE

>>62215731
Hey, buddy, I think you got the wrong door.

>>62216089
Liar.

>>62215731

>even after having the new model for 6 months, evil still can't wink or heart
why hasn't vedal fixed this?

>>62214934
>>62215122
>>62215299
all I see you guys doing is coming up with conclusions not baseless since I also do believe that olette is behind part of her decline but I see no one trying to actually do something about it instead of begging for miyu collabs

new
>>62216993
>>62216993
>>62216993

>>62216554
>I see no one trying to actually do something about it
like outbid olette for miyune's trust?

>>62217118
>Implying that miyu is a jew
aren't there other ways?