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Why did she flop so hard compared to vivi? Was it really luca's fault?

>> No.62093666

>>62093231
Yes.

>> No.62093673

who

>> No.62094215

Short hair
Good streamer but definitely a post-iluna style hire as opposed to vivi immediately grabbing the lazusydia audience and getting the blessing of Pomu

>> No.62094838

>>62093231
If you want a female chuuba who's a male chuuba accessory, there's more than enough variety in Niji EN already.

>> No.62095116

Vivi and Kunai interacted with Luca the same amount so that cannot be it, OP.

>> No.62095309

>>62093231
EU timeslot isn't Asia-friendly.

>> No.62095509

>>62093231
Management flopped all their hires with iluna and xsoleil. They have the pull for a big special talent like elira/pomu/selen anymore

>> No.62095708

Corpos buying their idols followers and viewbotting at the start, then that runs out and their actual real numbers become visible and they just fall into low 3-digit or 2-digit CCVs forever. Many such cases.

>> No.62095823

Personally, I didn't even check her stream out after I saw that Luca clip that was spammed in the catalog.

I've been enjoying Vivi's streams thus far though.

>> No.62095889

>>62093231
Nijifags said their livers don't need to pander to either unicorns or fujos.
Then reality hit them in the face and they go into denial.

>> No.62096469

the harsh reality is that hags are simply not appealing to most people despite how people pretend to go nuts over them online. i'm sure she is a nice person but she simply doesn't have that instant cute appeal like vivi who also has the gap moe of her off kilter humor and swearing up a storm in her stupid cute voice

>> No.62097688

>>62096469
>hags are simply not appealing to most people
>Korone
>Marine
>other fairly successful holohags
?

>> No.62097936

She was getting comparable numbers to one of the new Eien debuts on the same game today, that's wild

>> No.62097953

>>62093231
Timeslot. I really think it's that simple

>> No.62097961

>>62095823
Link the clip

>> No.62098007

>>62097688
They may be hags but they aren't successful because they are hags, just like Gura is a loli but she's not successful because she's loli.

>> No.62098799

>>62097961
just search for it on YouTube, it was that sex pest, Luca, talking about Vivi trying to find excuses to reject his advances

>> No.62098999

>>62098007
So the reason why they're successful is not because they're hags, but the reason she is not successful is because she's a hag?

>> No.62099199

>>62093231
Brightshield got a boost because people memed her as CGDCT.

>> No.62099244

>>62093231
Can someone explain how nijisanji expects to support all these people in the en branch yet doesn't do anything to expand their viewership?

>> No.62099398

>>62098799
wtf is wrong with nijis

>> No.62099449

>>62097961
He probably meant this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPJta-yUvI

>> No.62099533

>>62099398
luca is probably has his ego inflated at this point. he thinks all the chicks would be grateful to collab with him despite the man himself not being terribly entertaining or easy to play off of.

>> No.62099583

It's literally because of the hair. Her hair looks like a bird took a shit on it. And it's a man's haircut.
That thing on her head is so fucking ugly it ruins all her femininity right there.

>> No.62099679

>>62093231
voice is a miss for the model, no amount of sexo design can make up for that

>> No.62099845

>>62099583
hair wont change your shit personality and the fact that you are boring
people dont watch streams for a jpg

>> No.62099913

>>62099679
She's got a bad case of fat white woman voice. Vivi's voice is shit too but weebs with yellow fever are all over that kind of generic Lilypichu voice

>> No.62100059

didn't they have like 40k viewers on debut? was that the most blatant botting ever?

>> No.62100282

>>62100059
Only one barely hit 30k(via botting)

>> No.62100508

>>62099845
Anon nobody is excited to watch this shitter when her hair looks like that. I'm just saying.

>> No.62100619

>>62098799
He was inviting her to a group collab, retard
I don't like him and he ruins streams but painting every interaction he has with girls as a sexual advance is frankly ridiculous

>> No.62100742

>>62100508
Im fine with it but it's definitely a filter

>> No.62102160

>>62098999
If I have two bowls of oats, but one of them is actually oatmeal with milk and cinnamon, then indeed one can be a failure because it's just a bowl of oats. While the other is successful because it's a really good bowl of oats.

>> No.62104705

>>62100619
sure thing lucub

>> No.62109880

>>62093231
who

>> No.62113590

>>62093231
she need to offcollab with males to incline

>> No.62114002

>>62094215
please tell me you're joking...her hair? all anyone here ever says is mommy uuuuuuu! tomboy gf uuuuuuu! hags uuuuuuuu! Her hair is cute AF. The only problem with her is immediately jumping on Luca's dick. That's the only difference between her and Vivi, fans clearly keep showing Nijien the path to success, they just won't take it for some reason.

>> No.62114113

>>62098007
>just like Gura is a loli but she's not successful because she's loli.
You sure about that? I find it hard to believe she'd be as popular and marketable if she was a tall titcow instead.

>> No.62114292

>>62097953
Yeah she streams mid day EST, perfect for my NEET ass, but terrible for pretty much everywhere else. Reimu is pretty similar.

>> No.62114323

>>62099199
This. I got baited into watching her only for her to do a male collab afterwards. I dropped her and I imagine some did that as well

>> No.62114470

>>62093231
Vivi is a snarky cute girl, and asian. Kunai is just woman, a hag white woman. I'll take the former anyday everyday.

>> No.62118528

>>62099199
Her design is the best

>> No.62122993

>>62093231
Honestly every new NijiEN member immediately dropping to 1k and below after debuting is fucking tragic.

>> No.62123346

>>62114113
of course she would. you think people watch her for that jank fucking model? it's one of the worst in hololive, it's so inexpressive it's almost a PNG. She's funny and charming, she could be a podcast with no avatar and people would still flock to her in droves.

>> No.62123415

>>62122993
they wish they were still sniffing 1k. every time I check holodex they're sub-500

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>>62093231

>> No.62133468

>>62122993
They've accelerated too hard. You get more people making the company money by accelerating, but unless your growth in viewership is extremely fast you're also splitting the audience you've acquired every time you bring in new people. It's not exactly a winnable situation either since removing people from your ranks via graduating doesn't necessarily bring those viewers back into the fold.

>> No.62133660

>>62122993
>NijiEN
But that's exactly Niji business model since forever. It's been the same for main branch as well. Once in a while they struck gold with some hire that gets pretty popular, and they adjust their future hires etc. based on that success while providing their prodigy whatever they need while ignoring the rest most of the times.

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>>62093231
That's a shame, because her design is my favorite of the group.
>>62122993
Yeah, but like the other anons touched on, Niji's business model is to throw everything at the wall and see what sticks in quick succession. It leads to internal cannibalization of viewers, and may even potential burnout for some people (like me) who are just exhausted by all the debuts. I haven't given any new gens a try since XSoleil, and even then, the only member I watch now at all is Pomu.

Plus, it definitely doesn't help that the EN vtuber bubble has deflated considerably since its initial boom.

>> No.62136520

Looks like she could be a man because of her hair. And who cares about another faggot in nijisanji? Hair debuff. Also she’s just another Luca Cumrag.

>> No.62136575

>>62100619
And he can’t do that and talk about it in private and figure things out in private instead of putting pressure onto someone who potentially wants nothing to do with you by inadvertently tweeting about them messing up and having to reschedule a collab?

>> No.62138713

>>62123346
NTA but
>you think people watch her for that jank fucking model? it's one of the worst in hololive,
It's about average. And loli designs are more marketable since they are generally/inherently less sexualized, which helps weebs feel less like horny nerds and helps normies feel less ick about associating with weeb culture. Her voice is also naturally suitable for a loli model.
>She's funny and charming
She has more wit/charm than her genmates and your average normie woman, but that's a low bar. She's popular as Gura because she was popular as Senzawa (another loli-adjacent design), and she was popular as Senzawa because her meme "content" went viral amongst certain crowds, which raised her visibility enough for Belle Delphine to associate with her (which raised her visibility again). She's the most popular because she's the most popular.

>> No.62138756

>>62114002
Short hair is only used to make women less attractive and more androgynous.

>> No.62140187

>>62093231
they cant blame it on their designs

>> No.62140537

>>62138713
>Senzawa
>popular
Senzawa was a 2view on twitch

>> No.62140569

>>62093231
Her model is kinda ugly
And her voice is rough
I couldn't get through her debut

>> No.62140826

>>62135424
>>62135424
>That's a shame, because her design is my favorite of the group.

I am tremendously biased in favor, because I have a character with a similar design, and I still cannot watch her because of the voice being a complete miss.

Doesn't help that the best thing that can happen to her in Niji will be leaving Niji.

>> No.62142964

>>62140537
>millions of YouTube views on multiple videos

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62143278

Niji EN needs more hebes, enough of the dudes and hags.

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