/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>62055484
That's traditional Chinese so it's Taiwan

>>62055484
So what i am seeing i dont understand

The movie air exclusively in Japan.
I don't get why the chinks even mad.

>>62055484
>ching chong WHO
ah yes W.H.O., the same W.H.O. that bowed to zhang pressure and stopped investigating in Wuhan

>>62055484
Are chinks still seething over hololive?

>>62055722
A better question to ask is when chinks aren't mad

>>62055627
Fubuki is voicing a character in the new Kamen Rider movie, chink is seething.
>most annoying holo, sided with the one who divided the country

>>62055769
Who knows how many still are, but here's one of them.

>>62055484
Literally WHO

>>62055931
>the one who divided the country
imagine living in a country so weak that a single Japanese cartoon girl could divide it so easily

>>62056116
and still seething about it 3 years later

>>62055484
>most annoying holo, sided with the one who divided the country

bugs seething lol

how does everyone know what this post is saying? Lots of undercover agents in here

Look, you don't understand. THEY ARE ACTIVE ON BILIBILI

What more do you want, they are going back and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

>>62056395
Click the translate button my man

>>62056507
translation is buggy its not accurate.

>>62055484
it's Taiwan

>>62056507
to even care so much for what bugs are saying as to waste time translating it...couldn't be me.

>>62055484
Every day I thank Coco for pulling cover out of the shithole known as China

>>62056751
I hope your mother fucking slits her throat, fucking die.

>>62056775
Ogey Zhang

>>62055484
If China is strong, why don't they make their own Hololive?

>>62056775
>I hope your mother fucking slits her throat, fucking die

>>62056888
even chinese don't want to watch chinese

>>62056825
Use chang next time, anon.
I heard they're more offended by chang more than zhang.

>>62057183
just do the classic: drop a spoon and type out the sound

>>62056983
KEK

>>62055484
>China still seething
How can anyone make rrats about Cover returning to bugland if fox is still living rent free in their head?

>>62057316
They took a page from the government, they just brainwashed themselves

>>62056116
Woah just like that fat orange man and the cripple old man in blue suit.

>>62057316
Their "haachama is getting terminated by cover so that they can return to bilibili" rrat fell apart when she returned so now they are in maximum butthurt mode

>>62057671
haachama had so much foresight she even took their next 2 rrats and exterminated them on stream

>>62055931
anon is really obsessing over a single guy's post.

>>62058055
t. chonk

>>62055769
yes. chinks are always and forever mad at everything/everyone they were "offended" by because the ccp mind-control the chink bugs like that, also they actually dont have anything else to do.

>>62055484
do they have something against kamen rider in particular too or they just seethe any time hololive gets an official brand collab with something?

>>62057527
those are US presidents and their decisions literally affect the whole world, but now we're talking about an anime girl whose her whole purpose is to entertain people by playing games, sing, and dance
China is that weak

>>62055588
>气
>氣
It's not you dumbass

>>62055484
Anon didn't like this post because it probably only has like 2 likes and this kind of post getting barely any engagement would go against his narrative, like some dude who posts twitter caps here.

Taiwan bros we winning

>>62058218
No, it's the latter

>>62057527
>comparing politicians with cartoon girl

Figured they’d be over this by now and had their own home grown Hororive, 1034 streamers strong all stream from under some bridge for the enjoyment of the proud bug men

>>62058218
They want cover back but they don't want to be seen as the ones begging for them to go back because they would lose face. So their plan is to basically make cover lose any source of revenue from collabs to basically force cover back into china. They seethe at any collab holo gets because they hope that their seething will make the company lose the collabs like back then, but they don't realize no one really cares about them anymore and the chinese customer base isn't that important to any of cover's collab partners.

>>62057671
this, the narrative they desperately building inside their gutter oil shithole completely fell apart, they are seething

>>62055484
Cover has great relations with the republic of China

>>62058893
They did for a couple of years, but then it imploded because it's run by Zhangs

>>62056888
They tried. It ended up with the girls basically being slaves and not getting paid for shit and they walked out.

>>62058893
Literally weeks after the Taiwan Yab happened the CCP dropped a shitton of new regulations with regards to vtubers. Including but not limited to having to register their real name and address with Bili2.

Yagoo is one of the luckiest people alive.

>>62058218
Anon grabbed a single post and posted it here like it matters to anyone. I found the original weibo post that announced this and the seething comments are very small and drowned out either by surprise or interest. This is literally just some rando literal who twitter screencap thread but chinese.

>>62059228
I can't imagine vtubing being so big that the CCP creates regulations specifically for them? Unless they fall under a larger privacy law. If it's a bili2 internal regulation then it's just a stupid move from themselves though

>>62056505
>Active on Bili
Have there been any streams? No? Didn't think so. What's happening is that the owners of Holomems' Bilibili channels are reposting clips from YT to give the illusion of activity in order to get money from desperate Chinese holofans.

West Taiwan once again proving that the only thing they're good at is thievery.

>>62059388
It's a general streamer law, yeah, because the CCP abhors people who don't kiss the ring enough having influence

>>62059373
Anon is chink and they just like posting these things to remind this board china still exists for vtubing

>>62059388
From what I remember it referred to streaming media as a whole, so yeah I could have phrased that better. Vtubers were just the most pertinent to this board.

>>62059463
You mean China is still seething right?

Explain this then

>>62056505
yeah so active not even a single stream, start posting politics related to israel
fuck off bugmen thief

>>62059414
Explain how some random dude on bilibili is editing hologra episodes to have the translated chinese subs in the video within 0-10 minutes of the original upload?

>>62059501
OH NO NO NO, THE NARRATIVE IS BREKAING

>>62059549
>click show transcript
>click translate
>reupload
China lost. Haachama won.

>>62059501
Simplified Chinese is used in Singapore, Malay, also other Chinese lives outside mainland china

Sorry I didn't read... Whatever that is.

>>62059549
AI + bot

>>62059501
If you actually read that investor meeting you would know that holo is targetting chinese audience outside china now which is why there are events in taiwan, singapore and malaysia places with a huge chinese diaspora

>>62059501
>only mainland chink speak chinese
spoken like a true ignorant bugmen that living inside china

>>62059486
Nope, they post this to get people to seethe then people will start posting this >>62059414 so that they can post this >>62059549 and basically start another timeloop of cover coming back to china

>>62059549
>Explain how some random dude on bilibili is editing hologra episodes to have the translated chinese subs in the video within 0-10 minutes
Same way some clippers have 30 minute translated clips 0-10 minutes after the stream ends.

>>62059701
Your telling me, they can rip and upload the full video in 0 minutes

>>62059749
Yes

>>62059549
anon i hope you realize that japan is an hour ahead of china and that post means that it took an hour for b2 to upload it after japan released it

>>62059819
Highest level of cope, can't wait to drink your tears when Hololive comes back to china

China always wins in the end.

>>62059637
>>62059648
>>62059690
A bug is a bug is a bug, doesn't matter where they live

>>62055484
daily reminder that mods don't delete garbage threads that aren't in english or provide absolutely no context and only serve as shitposting fuel

>>62059904
No, bilibili auto adjusts the displayed time to your timezone

China will win, there is nothing you can do. Just accept that Hololive is coming back, your emotions are out of control. It's all business in the end and we have money that you lack.

>>62059915
>China always wins in the end.
Unironically chink defenders should rope themselves.

>>62060033
>we have money
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>62059977
not for the local one

>>62060033
Tell me when Holos can play Genshin on stream. Otherwise, there is no Hololive in China.

>>62060033
What are you even smoking
I thought they banned drugs in china

>>62060033
I hope your death is at least a funny webm.

>>62060089
This is pathetic, this is after the fiasco you fucking dumbshit western fuck. Fucking die whore mother.

>>62060033
>we have money that you lack.
Not really because if I recall b2 lost like 40% of income for this year because of Xi internet curfew

>>62060144
You should consider giving them some money first to convince them to come back

>>62060089
Reminds me of when ID3 launched and they kept saying Kobo was rich af, but you couldn't tell because the donos were from streamlabs

>>62060144
keep sucking that copium and seethe for me, subhuman gutter oil loser bug

>>62060144
Unfortunately for you, some of us have been here long enough to remember when Cover's financials revealed that the Chinese market only ever represented 9% of Cover''s revenue. This was BEFORE EN, mind you, which has brought in an order of magnitude more money than the Chinese market ever did in merchandising alone. The fact that it is notoriously difficult to actually get money OUT of China after you've made it also doesn't help matters.

>>62060469
That's just data reports you numbskull, Cover has lost more money then it's gained since leaving. Fucking die and don't lecture me with shit you don't understand

Your corporations already kneel to us long before, Hololive will as well.

>>62060644
you can't lose money you never made....no wonder your economy is failing

>>62060644
China's economy is in shambles. No point in returning.

>>62060644
>>62060144
you're making it way too obvious with your bait lmao. I know it's getting some (You)'s but is it worth it pretending to be a chink?

>>62060796
You joke but this is what bugmen actually believe

>>62060644
>ignoring data and statistics
The ultimate cope

>>62060644
Moronic bugman says this as companies looking for cheap manufacturing are literally leaving bugtopia for Mexico/Vietnam/etch.

>>62055588
It's on Weibo, aka China's Facebook

>>62060796
>merely pretending
Zhangs not even once.

>>62057527
>trump is anime

>>62060089
Miosha...

>>62060644
I blame Nijisanji EN for the recent surge of filthy Chinkblood on this board.

>>62061021
this was before the fiasco so miosha was on 3 month break that time due to the copyright incident.

>>62060089
How did Fubuking swing that much from the bugs?

>>62061019

>>62061105
she was the breakout talent over there and she basically said goodbye to half her income without batting an eye just to side with coco.

>>62060644
Larping too hard my guy

>>62061060
>I blame Nijisanji
They've been around since the days of your oshis' PL in niconico days

Hey

>>62061144
cute and loyal fox

>>62061019
Abe is also anime but no one wants to listen to him

>>62061215
yeah but they kind of fucked off for a little while until NijiEN(CN) brought them back to the vtubing scene and now they are acting all uppity

>>62061019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJZEWsGaToc

>>62061144
Aqua was even bigger. The schizo rrats about how the Onyan was totally going to leave Holo to stream on BiliBili full time and/or Zhangs thinking they could crowdfund a way to buy out her contract (lmao). I honestly find it quite comforting that delusional schizos aren't unique to /vt/.

>>62061469
can we start posting their cope manga about aqua being forced by management to choose her friends over china?

>>62061382
That's an own-goal by itself considering how Vox ended up self-destructing after he triggered all of his Chinese yumes into leaving.

>>62061469
this one is the classics, they put schizo on /vt/ to shame

>>62061526
that shit is too cringe for me to save, here have this edited version

>>62060946
Taiwanese post there too anon.

We dont forget what you tried to do.

>>62061019
https://files.catbox.moe/cc0ma3.jpg

>>62061569
Its funny because Vox recline was also caused by zhang backstabbing since it was found out that one of the zhang vtubers that likes to associate himself with luxiem was also the same guy paying zhang antis to make them look bad in bilibili.

>>62061769
Not really
Only Chinese loving Taiwanese use that
So basically bugs to us

>>62059749
fiber can help with that

>>62059749
nta but modern anime scanlators can do that as well now thanks to ai translations

>>62059549
I love the holocope over their bilibili channel

>>62056983
Kek

>>62061469
Fubuki was bigger than Aqua. She was the only one with a 1 million sub channel before they all unsubbed.

>>62061822
>savehololive
LMAO

>>62063475
Look at the chart, Aqua made more money than Fubuki, even her Bilibili income was higher than Fubuki's.

>>62061822
Do these chinks actually believe they are "saving" hololive by antying and harassing fubuki and others?

>>62063830
...in one specific month

>>62063547
>>62063905
savehololive was a pro-hololive group, they took a screencap of that zhang's b2 page and translated and reposted it on twitter

>>62063020
name one (1) group
>>62059701
you mean they start clipping and editing before the stream ended. right, now explain how you would do this with a video

>>62064166
You're wasting your time, newfags would rather believe in time travel then believe yagoo would upload hologras to another website

the cope is strong in this one

>>62057527
This stinks of /pol/ brain rot. We're talking about anime girl streamers you actual retard.

>>62064241
Even if they can never return to China, it's obvious that they're trying. It's gonna be China who refuses Holo, not the other way around.

>>62055722
They do that to distract people from problems in their own country

>>62055484
>(chink) Twitter screenshot of a literal who
Please rangeban SEA

>>62057527
>A VTuber has the same amount of influence and power as presidents of USA
Retarded chink never post again

>>62055588
That's not traditional chinese retard
t. taiwanese

>>62059977
>Chinks never use VPN to change their location to access Twitter
Retard

>>62065729
what are you talking about?

>>62065925
>I don't get how the two screenshots can match by using a VPN
We know that you are retarded

>>62055722
getting things like this means hololive is doing well and so they won't go crawling back to the bugs like they want

>>62066059
You are having a schizo moment

>>62066059
brother, none of the video nor tweet in the image are deleted. you can go check it for yourself
what you are saying doesn't even make sense when you can just use inspect element

>>62064919
>Horizontal
>Devis
>Bilibili
>No more sports fes
All this weird decision-making started after they went public. So can it actually be stakeholders demanding profit-driven changes?
inb4 wealthy chinese investors purposely bough holostock so they could drive the company into the ground

What I don't get about the whole Cover is grovelling to china narrative is what concessions have they actually made? Like at best they've gone here piggy you can consume our products again.

>>62066059
Pot chama...

>>62066165
China lost.
Akai Haato won.

>>62056888
For what little I understand from translated Bilibili comments, their own vtubers are shit, 3 years with no Hololive to compete against and the Chinesse vtubers actually decreased on quality. Hell, Nijisanji's Chinesse branch, Virtuareal, has close to 30 graduated/retired members.

>>62066165
Cover doesn't give out controlling stock so that's retarded

>>62059388
It got worse, now those names have to be public knowledge.

I only love Yogiri

>>62066165
>Forced idea solely because Blizzard-Microsoft shoved money up Yagoo's taint
>DEV/IS dealing with growing pains just like ID or Holo Council
>BiliBili is another venue to market, wouldn't doubt if they at least reserved Cover and their IPs on Kick
>Sports fes is being cancelled because of last years mega drama and the fact that the population is fuckhuge and unicorns can't comprehend "playful matches"

>>62055484
Seeing chink still seething and hoping holo to come back is always funny lmaoo

>>62066643
>blaming unicorns for sportsfes but completely ignoring that the fag got doxxed by japs and was a fan of gwelu and belmond on twitter

>>62064241
What's up with chinks and denying time travel exists?

>>62066395
I mean yeah, who would wanna be a vtuber in China when a) you can get cancelled on a government level at a minute’s notice and b) you can make a shit ton more money shilling products on douyin?

by todays chink/ccp standards its impossible for hololive to "officially" stream on the chink internet. it would require the vast amount of censorship.

>>62068069
I think what holo really wants is their merch market. Chinese consumers are a really good customer base for selling physical goods to. The holos don’t need to stream there, just be known characters.

>>62068069
in what way? there are plenty of coomer pandering vtubers on bilibili, many who just outright break copyright laws, many that talk about piss and shit and are unashamedly racist, what would they have to censor that they'd reasonably have to worry about?

>>62068234
>Thinking CCP cares about any other races than themselves
RUMAO anon, you can basically say the most racist shit as long as it does not target the Chinese, and don't even dare criticise the CCP regime

>>62066504
This, but Civia, I miss her wet kisses

>>62068234
I think he’s talking about the geopolitical minefield? And maybe their yuri shipbaiting. I still hate the CCP for cancelling my favourite yuri manhua.

>>62055484
I can't read wing chun, what is this?

>>62068392
so don't be racist against the chinese, it's not like holos make a ton of racist comments anyway, let alone any directed towards asians

>>62064919
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES CHINKS ACTUALLY BELIEVE

>>62068489
Silly anon, racism only applies to humans

I love how absolutely nobody fell for the falseflaggers claiming that this was traditional Chinese script, kek

>>62068612
Know your enemy and all that

>>62068502
You are talking about China as in the corporate entities that banned holo.
I’m taking about China as in the seething nationalist netizens who are going to bully any holo that steps foot on a Chinese streaming platform into oblivion.

>>62068629
I think you got that reversed

>>62068392
But enough about America with the jews
>>62068612
This place is infested with seachinks,of course they would know

>>62068629
but all the hologra and music uploads on bilibili have only positive comments

>>62068719
Wait what? Then what about the 4chan narrative about the evil bugmen tormenting hololive? I thought we hated the zhangs? What do you mean they’re actually leaving positive comments? Did 4chan lie to me?

>>62055484
Please, some Canadian anon translate this. Thank you xie xie.

>>62068768
Sure, if you just conveniently forget the vicious campaign against Coco and Fubuki that went on for years, and It's still going to this day.

>>62068768
It's like going to nyfco and fish for their opinions about a certain holo

>>62061469
>Friend
Funny how /vt/ now constantly trying to shit on her

>>62068697
because japanese is using traditional chinese words too thats called kanji retarded bugmen
no wonder chink cheaters is so infamous in gaming, keep bullshiting with a straight face like a dirty subhuman

>>62055722
china is one of the biggest consumers of japanese media in the world. they've had their insidious claws in the anime industry for years now. no idea if tokusatsu is popular over there, but toei has to be getting desperate at this point.

>>62068819
It says if you don't reply to this post your mother will die in her sleep

>>62066397
there is fiduciary duty to investors, even non-majority
private equity runs everything good into the ground eventually

>>62068768
Yeah anon, we got together to larp as chinks and flood coco's tags with gore, how can you tell?

>>62068889
那个

>>62068860
Are you seriously implying this board knows Japanese?

>>62068697
What's the matter, upset that your hilarious attempt at psyops didn't work?

>>62068889
fu

>>62068860
Sorry I can’t take chink hate seriously coming from an ESL. I feel like you need to be from a better country than the one you’re being racist against for it to work, ya know? Otherwise it just looks like seething.

>>62068234
they are either chink indies or chink agencies that know how to avoid/get away with ccps censorship. foreign companies must follow every ccp policy bc its viewed as a foreign "business" and the companies must take the responsibility. the ccp updated their censorship policies of vtubers after hololive withdrew from the chink market and its now too strict for them. it doesnt work as it used to.

>>62068919
Evidently enough to tell the difference between chadnese and chinkscript

>Finally a vtuber is part of a big toku production
>All the attention is just more china shitflinging

>>62068955
>know how to avoid/get away with ccps censorship.
Yeah, it's called deep throating ccp official's cock every Sunday

>>62068959
You mean the ones that can't even read basic holo hiragana names in Japanese?

>>62068999
And yet somehow they sniffed you out through your chinky disguise

>>62067955
qrd? what fag are you talking about?

>>62068963
Why yes we hate chinks here, how can you tell?

>>62068999
kek absolutely embarrassing bug tourist, just kill yourself already chang

>>62069070
The brown smell

>>62061469
Remember when the chinks made an Aqua cope manga where they made Hololive out to be the bad guy who were keeping her down?

>>62069114
>only brown people hate China
Do chinks really?

>>62068963
but dogengers had polka and oga

>>62069021
Yeah, because you’re SEAmonkeys. We can all tell by the shitty grammar and general schizo attitude. And inability to follow the course of the very comment thread that you are a part of.

>>62069147
dogengers is a local hero series. don't get me wrong, it's one of the bigger local hero things, but it's not on the same scale as kamen rider, super sentai or even GARO.

>>62069142
Statistically speaking, you are more likely to be brown than white

>>62069142
I’ll be honest. I’m from a western country and I don’t really care about what China does in general. I mostly just feel bad for Chinese people cause their government is always on their ass and I’m glad I don’t live there.

>>62069149
>only sea monkeys hate China
Do chinks really?

>>62069129
It was the weirdest thing ever, Aqua was seeing her fans doing the most revolting, disgusting things ever towards her FRIEND, and they somehow believed that did not change her opinion about them at all.

>>62069242
Again, SEAs demonstrate zero reading comprehension. Is your government putting lead in your water or something? Next you’re gonna call every rectangle a square.

>>62069149
>we
lmao, deluded bugmen treating /vt/ like his personal NGA army

>>62069323
Oh I'm sorry did I offend your precious bugman feelings again?

>>62068888
China has their own limited edition Rider merchs. Also Not the first time they got angry at Toei as they also complained when the actor of Ultraman Dyna sang the theme song for Zenkaiger due to him supporting Hong Kong.
Toei overall doesn't care unlike Tsuburaya who actually removed Dyna's actor from their recap series likely for the Chinese market.

Gonna level with you guys, I actually dislike the seaposters more than chinks. I’d probably feel differently if I had to interact with chinks but they’re all behind the ccp firewall so they don’t affect me at all. But every fucking day on this board there’s some schizo from the philippines spewing broken english, making dumb drama threads, or turning comment chains into unintelligible garbage. I think they need correction. A good old american colonizing before they can be released back into proper civilization.

>>62069478
it's not even limited to this board. rectum 90 is currently searching for every YT clip regarding the holo sports fes so he can shit up the comments section

>>62068819
according to yandex

Eastern fungus WHO
Yesterday at 08:51 from Weibo Web version
I'm angry, I just linked V, and holo was linked, and then holo was just such a fox management role, and then holo is currently in the staff of Holo, this guy is the most annoying thing I have ever done, not to mention the people who stand in line to divide the country and the remarks. Last time I mentioned supporting nuclear waste water discharge, Toei, I really served you and made a special promotion.
@创立一一: \Geatschemy's voice is... /
For the first time in the history of the Kamen Rider series
【Popular Vtuber (blowing snow on the white)】 Easy to participate in the war
Enthusiastic to play the cute and mysterious Geats Chimy who is both cute and a little mysterious
What exactly is Geats Chemy?..? Full text
THE WIVTER MOVIE
12.22 [FR

>>62069323
My chinese friend hate china too bugman.

>>62068889
the chinese did it...

>>62069024
NTA but i remember that the guy that sent miko that sportsfes tweet last year was tracked down by japs and it turned out he tweeted and watched mostly niji stuff.

>>62068908
> fiduciary duty
That rule is an American thing, there's nothing like that in other countries.
Don't like it? Sell your stock. There'll be other buyers.

>>62069323
>not knowing that the group with the biggest hatred for China are the overseas chinese
Mainlanders are a disgrace to the chinese race.

Does vshojo have to deal with these antis or does china ignore them to seethe at hololive?

>>62061469
You know, i wish i just chinese just so Fubuki could spit in my mouth.

i hate china
they ruined APEX and GTA

>>62069478
Just hate them both.

>>62068889
I'll never forgive the chinese

>>62059549
>>62059977
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1P94y1h7RZ/
https://youtu.be/NDPtqzL6jrI
Interesting... as far as I can see it's just that ONE video which was posted at the exact same time on both Youtube and Bilibili.
Every video before and after that one were posted later than the Youtube one by various amounts -
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1CN411n7mT/
Late by 3 days
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1P94y1h7RZ/
Late by one day
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12p4y1e7bD/
Late by 3 hours
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19H4y1d7t4/
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Rh4y1a7Gm/
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Zu411A7XU/
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1rC4y1g7SM/
30 minutes after Youtube post
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ky4y1N7uK/
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19C4y1n7gc/
> https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Zz4y1A7J4/
15 minutes after Youtube post

If it was Cover doing it, every subsequent video would be uploaded at the exact same time as well, but that's not what's happening.
You can check this yourself here : https://space.bilibili.com/286700005/video

Cover started putting out Simplified and Traditional Chinese translations on Youtube Hologra starting October 1, 3 weeks after Anya's Hologra. It started with this one : https://youtu.be/-tVfp729a5M
If you check the Bilibili version of the same video, it was late by 17.5 hours : https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1P94y1h7RZ/
That doesn't make sense, the original video had Chinese subtitles and it took them that long just to reupload it, when they uploaded Anya's hologra TO THE MINUTE?

The most plausible rrat here is that Cover onboarded some chinks to do the Chinese subs for Hologra, and one of those fuckers leaked Anya's Hologra to the fags running the Bilibili channel - probably to enhance their "China returning to Hololive" narrative (which one of them is trying to push here again).
Probably got fired for it too, which then likely delayed CN subs on Youtube Hologra by 3 weeks.

tl;dr : Anya's hologra very likely got leaked to Bilibili by a CN translator hired by Cover.

>>62073533
schizo theory

>>62068848
> /vt/
holoan aren't the whole board anon

>>62068889
jew

>>62059549
chink timezone isnt the same as japanese. when its AM2 in japan its like AM1 in chinkland or your time display is just fucked up. its PM6 on my computer in japan. like 午後6:00 · 2023年9月10日

either way that shit doesnt prove anything

>>62068889
nooo, not miosha

>>62064120
never ceases to amuse me how close the name for their notYT is to the dorito stealth bomber

>>62073818
The time on the bilibili one isn't the time it was uploaded in china hours, it's the time it was uploaded converted to what time it was in that person's timezone. It's the case both for the twitter part and the bilibili part, which is why it's the same, because both were posted at the same time.

>>62066504
Is she still around? Last I heard she got menhera over an AI cover and quit.

>>62066165
>>62066643
>hurr sport cancelled
They, shubamiomiko, aren't doing it because they can no longer be fucked. It was their creation in the first place and not some managment pushed shit.
And Miko laughed all the way to bank after that ONE nijinig sc that made her cry inciting a deluge of money pouring in that far outweighed less than a minute's upset.
They're old, tired and inventing new gimmicks and binding entire stadiums is boring. I don't blame them.

>>62061019
Putin is manga.

>>62073216
from what ive seen chinks just ignore kson at this point since they believe she is a failure to them.

>>62061019
I mean...

>>62073533
Based anon
>>62073653
>You are a schizo for pointing out that I am full of shit
Cry more zhang

>>62059549
>explain how

>>62074166

You guys should post your stolen hologramtheory to 5ch so an investor will bring it up at a meeting so I can laugh at you

>>62073216
ironmouse and nyanner's old artist was chinese and had a meltdown and denounced them and some people freaked out in the comments of some vshojo clips but vshojo has no direct involvement in china so they mostly just ignore them.
>>62076361
they ignore her because she has no direct involvement with china. they freaked out at her one time when it was announced she would be a guest on a chinese stream but that was the only potential direct involvement that she has had since she avoids them.

Are CN Vtubers actually shit or is it like how EOPs complain about all the ENtubers? I always though Yousa was pretty cute.

>>62073533
>>62078214
This theory falls apart if you compare to older videos that were actually done by fan translators:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MJQxT5-Zhc
Upload date - August 30
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ua4y1E7LQ/
Upload date - August 31

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrFeLG9YfwU
Upload date - August 31
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wh411R7MA/
Upload date - Sep 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU4RAfwXL8Q
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1da4y1h72j/
2 days late

Older ones seem to have been faster but the fastest one I can find (I'm not going through every single one) was still 2 hours late. According to you the vast majority are now 30 minutes or faster, which is strong evidence that they are translated in house and uploaded immediately from the source, which is the opposite of what you are arguing.

>>62059749
Downloading ~1 minute of youtube video in under a minute is not impressive in any way, anon.

>>62085088
You know what else isn't impressive? Uploading your own video to your own channel.

>>62085213
I'm not saying they're not, I'm saying that specific point isn't an argument.

>>62061019
>>62061127
I love how trump is the most rational character in death note, lel

>>62068860
>japanese is using traditional chinese
they've all more or less evolved their own scripts over time. i'd say japanese has more in common with simplified chinese though since they also went through a process of simplifying their kanji.

>>62085321
The video download time is a moot point. The thing that should draw everyone's attention is that all these videos have custom hardsubs with different colors for every character and are animated and specifically placed in the scene when necessary. Copers are acting like they're screen recording the youtube subs and then immediately uploading it but they are putting work into this and it's more than a 15 minute job no matter how you spin it.

>>62059228
>Yagoo is one of the luckiest people alive.
>implying he did not bail out of china because said regulations

>>62085996
because he didn't, if it was up to him he would've stayed there all the way until the regulations started causing him trouble, not kicked out before the CCP even put the bill to public

>>62085088
Yeah, and they also translated it, retimed it, typeset'd it, and re-encoded it, and uploaded it to bilibili, all under 1 minute.

>>62056888
the Chinese government actively stops stuff like that from happening

>>62085881
He bought the Death Note for 1 quadrillion yen, but he never used it because Ryuk warned him that he'd die if he accepted it (but if he did, the VP could use it)

>>62056888
they did that but they fucked up and also made their own gamebu at the same time

>>62084777
The point is that most of them are late by at least 15 minutes from Hologra's upload (and 2 of the 15 minute entries already had a CN translation on them).
Also did you completely forget that we have decent enough AI to do transcriptions and translations nowadays?
Obviously the speed of uploads have gotten faster nowadays, but that doesn't prove because the last official information we have from Cover is that their Bilibili channel is still in the hands of the Chinese fans who were originally running it.

Anything else is theory. The Anya hologra is the only outlier, and that likely means there was a leak from the inside from a translator (since it was a bit before they started putting CN translations on youtube), meaning the Chinese are still fighting their retarded war with Cover.

>>62086819
ai doesn't do timing and typesetting

>>62086819
>the last official information we have from Cover is that their Bilibili channel is still in the hands of the Chinese fans who were originally running it.
This is newfag revisionist history. The official Hololive channel, which is the one uploading Hologras, was never in the control of fan translators. They never had the passwords. That channel was always Cover only. I implore you guys to read archives on JP back when the other channels were getting hijacked. You can find people posting about when they channels started retweeting Take Over and posting wheelbarrow instructions, that never happened on the main channel.

Why are you guys seething so hard about holo testing the waters with china? We all know by now that if china pushes them cover would rather withdraw than capitulate, so there’s nothing to worry about. If holo is fine with it and china is fine with it, just let holo make their money, and let the chinese holofags be happy. Who cares?
Sincerely think this thread is full of seething schizos and seamonkeys. Get over it.

bilibili employees can do anything to the channel. whatever you talk about, as long as they can control everything about it, no assumption does really make sense and you dont even need to form a convincing hypothesis. also theyd have their strong irl network to the jp otaku industry so its not even hard to get many leakers working there.

>>62087380
they've been posting "fuck china" for 3 years they are emotionally invested in it now

>>62060946
How do I read Chinese facebook, is this one random guy posting that only OP has seen or does it have 1000s of likes and replies etc?

>>62087461
Do you really think Hololive is that big for fucking Bilibili to personally involve itself in? You are deeper than the conspiracy nutcases at this point

>>62087562
holoCN was a joint venture with bilibili, same with virtuareal

Bugs are getting too uppity. You will never ever have official Hololive shit, You better start learning marathon swimming if you want it so badly.

>>62087461
That's retarded, anon. A huge corporation that's already doing fine and making money isn't going to risk the PR nightmare of impersonating people and uploading videos in their name. That will piss off customers.

>>62087562
I mean, bilibili did take action banning holo during the whole coco fiasco. So holo is big enough for them to get involved. I don’t think they’re involved in this specifically though. Cause why tf would bilibili employees be personally pulling strings to upload hololive videos? But you can’t really expect logical reasoning from what is clearly a low iq SEAfag.

>>62087709
>the chinese would never bootleg brands
KUSA KUSA KUSA KUSA KUSA KUSA KUSA KUSA KUSA

>>62087562
why does the scale even matter? if one of their employees in a somewhat high position is a hardcore holo fan and he just wants to keep hololive alive there, he just does what he wants. thats it. a weeb enthusiast does anything especially in china. you underrate their thirstiness and power.

>>62087798
There's a large difference between making a copy of a product and speaking for a person without their knowledge.

>>62085894
>removing the gate radical from gate
What is actually wrong with the Chinese?

>>62087179
> That channel was always Cover only
Anonchama... you have no idea how things operate within China do you?
It's illegal for foreign companies to have direct control over any investment within China. You always ALWAYS need a local "liaison" or "local Chinese guy" who will be given the job to handle all your local stuff.
The "official hololive" channel was NEVER in Cover's control.
Once the Coco drama started, the local liaison guy just followed their government narrative and cut off Cover corp, taking the channel over for Bilibili. He was the same guy that misled the HoloCN girls and told them they would get to keep their models and tech (because bilibili was trying to pressure Cover and take their tech so that they could start their local VTuber group Asoul).

The last Hololive tweet that included Bilibili was on August 5th (https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1290966396805947392)) for a program that happened on 9th.
Coco and Haachama's Taiwan incident and suspension was in late September 2020.
Cover corp removed every single bilibili reference from their social media and website after the incident.
Their website has twitter, LINE, reddit and facebook links.
Those are the only social media accounts they officially control.
Notice how there's no bilibili here?

>>62087179
>That channel was always Cover only
they said the same shit with fubukis b2 channel and that thing got zhanged

>>62068889
fuck you

>>62087179
That would be weird considering nijisanjis b2 accounts is not run by anycolor themselves but b their chinese counterparts which is why there was a drama last year when some nijijp that had a sizable following in china graduated and the b2 account never announced it or the graduation stream or the recent fuckup with the nijien debouts where the b2 guy released it in china time rather than jap time

>>62088052
Ngl, the narrative of “it’s this one guy hacking into/using his connections to get early video releases, translate and typeset and sub the videos (maybe with ai???) and upload them to bilibili on his own without any pushback or anyone from cover being like hey why’s this dude getting our videos let’s tighten security” is kinda farfetched though. Isn’t it more likely that the liaison is just working with hololive again?

>>62088438
nta but youd be surprised at what levels chinese can stoop to when they are denied something
i remember them hacking one of the mmorpg companies i used to play just because they cracked down on private servers that operated in china

>>62087798
i even know about the ex bili site, but it was literally the total copycat of nico. it was practically a nico clone site where over 90% of the contents were copypastad from nico and not to mention none of them including the management did give a fuck about copyrights. the nature of the site hasnt really changed

>>62087529
OP conveniently cropped them out

>>62088438
Anon I never said one guy hacked EVERYTHING.
Anya's Hologra was reuploaded to Bilibili with a translation WITHIN ONE MINUTE of being uploaded on Youtube.

Even with AI, you can't do transcription, translation, putting subtitles, and publishing of an entire video to another platform, all within ONE MINUTE of it being public on Youtube.
Within 15 minutes? Sure, if you're fast enough with the transcripts or have some AI tools to help.
Within 60 SECONDS? Fuck no!

All I'm saying is that the only was Anya's CN translated hologra on bilibili makes sense is if it was leaked to the guys running the Bilibili channel by someone inside Cover LONG before the planned publish time - which would give them enough time to transcript, sub and set a timed upload on Bilibili at the exact same time as the Youtube one to make it look like it was Cover themselves doing it (because they obviously can't hack Cover's official website and add Bilibili there).

It's ONE video leak. A big deal for sure, but not something that's too farfetched, especially since it was around the time Cover was trying to get someone to translate hologra into CN for the Youtube main channel

>>62087709
> China
> caring about outsiders' PR
you must be 18 to use this site

>>62090011
Outsiders aren't customers. Read my post again more carefully.

>>62089969
do you even have any evidence that the hololive channel was hijacked because it all hinges on that and it's literally the one channel that wasn't hijacked lol because cover employees ran it lol. you're like balls deep in a numberfag narrative written by newfags who weren't around at the time.

why would you still talk about "hackers" lol literally the most convincing theory is a holofan employee in bili does something to the channel. reminder bilibili was stealing everything from nico and its their prototype and they still do and accept it.

>cover started uploading their anime series to a chinese website that taiwan people also use after finally deciding to expand operations to taiwan again
vs.
>hololive antis who have been squatting on their official channel for 3 years suddenly decide to attack them by uploading professionally translated and typset anime episodes for free with inside help from cover employees working undercover and are actually secret chinese agents who have also been there for years not doing anything until now where they decide to finally get back at cover by giving some guy episodes of a youtube video a couple hours early in an elaborate psyop to convince people that hololive is now uploading their anime episodes on bilibili which will finally get back at them by ... giving them positive pr to show that they like their fans stuck behind the firewall which will hurt hololive somehow i guess idk
these are both very compelling theories good thing we have /vt/ brainiacs analyzing this so we know which one is legit

>>62068889
Fuck you

>>62056751
Amen

>>62090244
> do you even have any evidence that the hololive channel was hijacked
https://old.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/j2ecrt/explanation_of_the_events_leading_to_our_public/
> inb4 reddit
It's the only platform that has official statements from that time remaining, since their old site was nuked and most of the statements from that time did not survive.

See #3 -
> In preparing the official statement, and after careful consultation with our partner company located in China, we were advised that, to secure the safety of our talents and employees and ensure that they are able to continue their activities moving forward, it was necessary for us to release a clear statement to the Chinese audience regarding the disputed statements.
They have a "partner company" which is mandatory to do business in China. They handle literally everything to do with the local market, including managing Chinese channels etc.
Your turn. Show me proof that Cover corp ever owned their Bilibili channels directly.

>>62092206
this is not proof that their channel was hijacked

>>62092361
nta nut who do you think the partner company in china is anon they dont need to hack it when the company there has control over it
its the same thing with anycolor and their b2 accounts which is why when that chinese public law will take into effect the persons being named will not actually be vox or any of the niji vtubers but the people running the accounts in china

>>62092206
>They handle literally everything to do with the local market, including managing Chinese channels etc.
Your link is not proof of that, and I am familiar with this cope, and it's not true, foreigners can own Bilibili accounts. I'm a burger and I have one. Artia taught us on stream how to make one.

>>62090972
I mean same shit happened to uncle roger recently as well when his chinese accounts got usurped just because he joked about china

>>62092552
Foreign INDIVIDUALs can have one anon.
Foreign Businesses cannot.
There's a reason literally every girl's account was run by fans.
>>62092361
I never implied it was "hijacked" in any of my posts, it was another anon talking about that.
My point is that Cover never owned their Bilibili account in the first place.
Still doesn't, because if they did it would be listed on their official website.

>>62092620
You do know bringing up that chinese people hack stuff sometimes doesn’t refute the actual point, right?

>>62092778
because it wasnt a hacked his accounts literally got hijacked by the site admins themselves because he joked about china being authoritarian

>>62092904
Only his weibo account got controlled the rest got banned.

>>62092904
That still doesn’t refute the main point. Why would anyone who took the accounts sit on them for three years and then start uploading hololive videos unless they are on hololive’s side, in which case why are they stealing leaked videos from holo without their permission instead of just doing normal legal fan translations?

>>62093032
same reason why those retarded bugs still keep on wheelbarrowing fubuki on several occasions after all this time
bugs are just retarded

>>62093149
Sounds like you just personally came up with a retarded scenario and aren’t able to justify it.

>>62092661
Not all of the channels were run by fans, only the oldest ones were, pre gen4, because they were literally fan accounts that were converted into official ones. Cover basically showed up and gave them their seal of approval.

You also don't really seem to understand the chinese owned business loophole. It's true that china doesn't allow foreign business, but basically every foreign business easily skirts around the rule by making a chinese-owned partner company that's basically just a shell company that does the foreign company's bidding. That's what Cover did, they hired a couple of chinese guys who were technically a separate legal entity in the eyes of the law but for all intents and purposes are just Cover employees. And when I say Cover always owned that channel what I really mean is it was operated by that shell company but that's a pointless technicality. When Cover disbanded most of their china operations, this team was downsized, since they also managed the chinese vtuber branch, but it was never fully dissolved. They are still employed as Cover still does business in china, although behind the scenes, mostly with merch deals. And these are the guys who now control all of the Hololive channels including the main one.

>>62093258
I mean can you really justify or explain why bugs still spam fubuki on different streams 3 years after?

>>62093390
yes
fubuki made them mad
spam makes her not happy
they want her to not be happy because they are mad at her
so they spam her

it's completely logical. what you are proposing doesn't make any sense at all.

>>62056751
HoloMeth basado

>>62093469
thats not even logical. you are just looping yourself.

chinks are just bugs. they just cant think of anything else, dont have any flexibility, only function towards one direction

>>62093556
they have a motivation, a goal, and are doing an action to achieve that goal, that is literally the definition of logic

>>62093469
it does make sense
hololive leaves china
chinese thinks hololive will die without it
hololive thrives outside china
chinese think they will come back and bow to china eventually because china number 1

they do shit like this like that retarded chink "leaker" in b2 who made that weird hololive come back song and said that his sources say hololive is coming back to china next month since 2021

>>62093622
thats not logic since ants do that as well but they dont have logic

>>62093385
>They are still employed as Cover still does business in china, although behind the scenes, mostly with merch deals.
This is great, go on.

>>62093638
that doesn't really make sense and that's not what they actually want. most are mad at hololive for turning their back on them despite china playing a huge part in their growth. they want the company to die. working for them for free will not achieve that goal.

>>62093622
no they are just unstoppable machines like bugs. the ccp know it well. for instance, chinks "can start" rioting against japan, they "can start", but "cant stop" it themselves, its actually always like that, research it if you think its doubtful. the ccp let them do whatever they want first but always force them to stop it in the middle of the action. if the ccp dont they forever keep rioting until they destroy all things out there.

Kek kinda reminds me with the china situation and blizzard where they didnt renew their agreement with netease and got shat on the chinese for betraying them. Tencent promised that they will fill the void that wow left only for them to fail and in turn tell netease to sue blizzard.

>>62093809
There's not much public info of what they're up to these days. The translation groups aired everything out when they cut ties with them and now are in the dark again. They were still around to take Aqua's channel back in like mid-2021 (despite Aqua's translation team still being willing to work) and that's the most recent activity that the public knows about.

>>62093826
>that's not what they actually want.
then why make up stories of their return >>62061469

>>62094053
>post from the numbers thread that literally opens with "kek"
anon please do not put stock in the retarded shit those apes come up with

>>62094034
>There's not much public info
Sounds like they aren't employed or doing anything then.

>>62094128
I mean they are, they mostly all got doxxed. They are just professionals and not leakers. I guess we now know that they're translating Hologras at least.

>>62093826
thats where you are wrong
most are mad that they "hurt the feelings of the chinese" y thriving outside china
we all saw that shit their cn and even chinese clip channels tried to pass around how aqua was going to leave hololive for china or how cover will fire coco haachama and fubuki and ask forgiveness to the chinese only to sperg out when that didnt happen
they sperged out the same way when fortnite and blizzard left china and kept on saying that without china blizzard and epic games will die unless they go back
their end goal isnt the company dying rather its about showing examples of what happens to companies that betrayed but slowly came crawling back to china

>>62094445
nah that's retarded holofag shit. the majority just wanted hololive to die, that's why they were spamming the top earner. the spam only ended because they picked aqua as their next target which caused aquafag mods to kill their community.

>>62094445
>>62094666

>>tldr; bugscrymore