/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>61796975
What happened to niji this time

>>61796988
New wave(TTT) is already down to 200 ccv 3 days after debut

>>61796988
new wave are already 3views. outside of niji, ironmouse streamed on youtube and got 2k CCVs.

>>61796975
I mean, at least none of them became 3views right after debut

>>61796988
rrat of Pomu graduating and ended up in Vshojo

>>61797032
Yikes
Thats what happens when you cant bot I guess

>>61797032
Wait, Mousey has a Youtube??

>>61796975
Give me Feet'n'Greet session.

>>61797032
I never understood the reason why others vshojo can stream on youtube but they never let Nazuna. I remember someone explaining that it was because Nazuna was a "Twitch partner", but I'm sure Ironmouse must be one too

>getting traction first 6 months
based cover jap sama you did it again

>>61796988
Pomu graduating and new wave dead on arrival

>>61796975
>Presented by VRchat

Does this means that advent got some sort of 3D models? Any clue what kind (chibi,stock etc)?

>>61796975
But enough about niji's latest wave.

>>61797068
True because viewbotting on youtube is impossible and never been done before

>>61797096
Twitch allows simulcast now to Youtube. But all the
"main features" gotta be on Twitch only.

>>61797047
Yeah, this thread is absurd. All of them can pull 8-10k with buff content like suika game, Minecraft and karaoke.
OP should be more worried about Mori because she's slowly fading into irrelevancy despite her hardcore leeching advent. Literally has more advent collabs than the rest of EN combined.

>>61797571
it's so fucking funny how fwmc and bijou has like at least 3 one-on-one collabs with mori already

I mean they can't send Gura anymore so they send the active streamers.

>>61797390
Twitch didn't allow simulcast, i think they changed their terms a few days ago.

>>61797497
Ironmouse's chat is too slow

>>61796988
all girls offcollab happened again and Uki was there

>>61797032
Is that surprising? Her main audience is on Twitch.

>>61796988
They actually had an all girls collab, and the sisters are terrified

>>61796975
>not striking while the iron is hot
please learn about a thing or two

>>61796975
It weirds me out that they lined them all up to look like they're the same height.

>>61797024
Oh shit, really? That sucks. I don't watch Niji, but those are probably worse numbers than when they were indies. I feel bad for the streamers.

>>61797819
One of them was apparently a 200k sub indie
She must feel really fucking retarded now LOL

>>61797729
That's not relevant. Why is she maining Twitch in the first place?

>>61798051
do most nijis even reach 200k subs? why would you even join at that point

>>61798220
She's retarded.

>>61796975
Getting real tired of these whores shitting up conventions ngl

>>61798051
>>61798253
In her defense... there is a chance that she joined NijiEN as early as november->january last year. You know before NijiEN turned into a shitfest

>>61798416
nijiEN has been a shitfest day one

>>61796975
oh wow, i'd forgotten they existed. that vrchat thing will really turn things around for them.

>>61797390
It has nothing to do with Twitch or VShojo

>>61796975
pic unrelated right?

>>61797032
Twitch magic only works on Twitch.

>>61798220
They thought she was gonna be popular on Twitch, ignoring the fact that a majority of her audience is jp.

>>61797815
Biboo is standing on a box, Nerissa is actually 5 meters away, look at her tiny head

>>61797497
Its funny you say this because people always bitch about Niji debuts being botted to hell, but I guess they just forget about that afterwards.

>>61799264
>>61797390
Forgot the photo

>>61796975
>most of advent getting 4k-5k avg. on ccv
>most of nijiEN getting 3views, and in the danger zone of 3views in ccv.

I think you should worry more about your agency/branch op, they're literally dying over there.

>>61797024
Even phase and idol have more people watching

>>61799385
Why are vshojo such faggots?

>>61796988
Sister are panic that the nijigirl have a girl only stream and their boys losing to them. This could give nijigirl the incentive to seperate themselve from the boys.

>>61796975
Oh shit, I didn't know they were doing something at anime NYC, that's amazing. They have so much traction over such a small amount of time, too. Nice job Advent

>>61796975
>>61796988
I’m going to save Victoria from the dying branch that is NijiEN.

The only irrelevant failure is Shiori

>Why was nazuna forced to stream on Twitch?
That has already been answered by Henya.
It's not a Vshojo issue, it's a Twitch perms issue.

>>61796975
I love advent let's go diamond rock :D

>>61799596
>Failure
Gets more views than 90% of NijiEN
Gets more Superchats than 100% of them
Okbuddy

>>61799413
It's not "even". Idol deliberately cultivates their talents while Pippa and Tenma try to boost the girls with shittier CCV and poach other mid-tier indies/small corpo girls in their friend circle so the company as a whole benefits.

>>61800239
>benefits
Is that why Jelly is already considering leaving? Nobody wants the kiwifags to shit up their audience

>>61800284
Proof soon right?

>>61800284
EN4 i’m sure fr fr

>>61799385
After Coco's graduation it wouldn't be that much of a shock if Hololive increased the length of the non-compete clause in their contract. While EN members could potentially fight that in court depending on the country it would still be a nasty legal fight. For the JP members though the Japanese courts usually side with the corpo.

>>61798342
They're like one of the few good things about them, most cons are interviews with shitty dub VAs, promos for things actual otaku already know about, gay cosplay meetups/orgies, and hawking merch at 50% markup.

>>61797024
2 of them are. Victoria is actually offering token resistance to male shit, and she was pulling almost 3k when the others were at like 400. She stayed over 1k even up against their 8-slut offcollab last night, even playing a boring as fuck debuff fighting game. If she can keep it up she could be big, but nijien being nijien, I'm sure Luca and the others will ruin her too soon enough.

>>61800284
I believe it, that’s probably why Jelly hasn’t streamed for like 3 weeks. She’s already on the way out.

>>61800239
I've never seen a company work harder than Idol to help their girls succeed, it's really impressive. It doesn't always work, but they try everything possible. "Spared no expense." Hammond would be proud.

>>61803340
You clearly haven't seen any other companies then considering they terminated 3 people in under a year

>>61796988
Great new debut.

>>61803397
You NEED to delete this.

>>61803397
are you a fucking retard? the origin girls left on their own. the original Hebrew wave was an experiment and most of them had little to no streaming experience, and some ended up dipping. That doesn't change the fact that they're offered massive support for literally anything they want. Katta and Nikki, the origin girls that are still there, seem to enjoy it and get to do whatever they want.

>>61797497
The issue with twitch isn't particularly botting, but rather how they count views. (Everything counts, whereas jewtube has filters in place to give a more accurate reading.)

>>61803340
A lot of Idol’s “success” comes from very heavy pandering to the coomer/fleshbegging audience. The CEO knows that one of the easiest ways to attract the biggest whales is with that type of content, hence why he allows masturbation ASMR/RP locked behind higher tier memberships and doesn’t have a problem with weekly fleshposting.
It becomes much easier to recoup hefty investments when you have no limits to the degeneracy you will allow your talents to participate in.

>>61796975
Is Shiori the group leader?

>>61803418
best nijien debut ever, she is an absolute gem buried in a pile of dog shit over there

>>61803418
Its hilarious how you nijifags have been going "FUCK UNICORNS" for months and now you deepthroat the 1 girl other than Zaion who told Luca to fuck off. Meanwhile you celebrate Zaions termination

>>61803150
>even playing a boring as fuck debuff fighting game
She spent nearly 4 hours in training mode grinding her bread and butter combos and reading frame data, that's some dedication.

>>61803695
Is she an actual fighting game autist? Is she any good? If she is I might actually check her out…

>>61803592
the talents are allowed to do what they want, but very few of them do that stuff. it's mainly just Riro and Yuko. It's not some corporate strat, Rin is the biggest one and she doesn't. Fuyo doesn't. Most of them don't.

>>61803739
>Is she an actual fighting game autist?
Yes.
>Is she any good?
Eeehhh, by vtuber standards let's say she'd stomp the entire company with ease.

>>61803695
Yep, that's what I meant. Watching someone sit in the training mode just practicing is not riveting stream material, but people stayed anyway. She could have a bright future.

>>61803592
>actual camwhores
I think I see now who has been posting all the anti vshojo threads and I'm not surprised at all

>>61803739
you could tell she's played quite a bit, was familiar with all the lingo and was doing pretty good in her placement matches once she got warmed up

>>61803685
The few people who are still watching Niji are either fine with how things are but confused why everyone else are leaving, or legitimately dumb as a brick.

Why are you subhumans discussing Nijisanji in an Advent thread?

>>61803785
>>61803897
Damn, I would have never expected that from a NijiEN girl, I guess I’ll try to catch her next fighting game stream

>>61803936
If we can't blame the Niji Boogeyman than we'd have to look in at ourselves and that's something I'm unwilling to do

>>61803936
It was an Advent bait thread, successfully derailed.

>>61803998
>>61803936
you fags are so funny

>>61804011
I wanted to derail it to discuss the NYC convention though...

>>61803936
Its clearly a niji deflection thread since all of advent shits on nijisanji daily

>>61803258
>>61800284
>>61800773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1vfIdOzMDs

JELLYOKE

>>61801795
>shitty dub VAs
So Advent kek

>>61803685
I don't know, I just enjoy watching streams. How about you try that for a change?
I am not a huge fan of collabs anyway, but I wouldn't mind if she collabs with males as long as it makes sense for the content of the stream and isn't only done for the sake of the collab.

>>61804110
Who are they dubbing?

>>61804196
lurk moar

>>61804272
Who's Lurk?

>>61797571
If Advent starts really pulling numbers Gura will stream again to kneecap them because she only cares about keeping her numbers above the others. Lest she actually have to do her job.

>>61803739
>Is she an actual fighting game autist?
Yes. Spent hours in training mode yesterday. Invested enough to cheer for someone while watching Evo. Knows enough to talk like a fighting game autist.

> Is she any good?
No. She looks roughly gold, maybe low Plat level. Her Cammy combos are really unoptimized. And it takes her a while to adjust to opponents. She's also playing modern so that might turn you off if you're an NA fighting game autist.

>>61803785
She'd stomp EN, but Kuzuha and Naraka are both master rank players.

>>61803936
So many threads have turned into this.
>random unrelated thread
>holofag or nijifag starts seething
>opposing team starts seething
>autism ensues
Its all so tiresome.

>>61803685
Wow, it's like as if the nijiEN fanbase is still infighting between its male and female audiences!

>>61803646
>absolute gem buried in a pile of dog shit over
Pray she doesn't get touched by Luca, Kyo or Uki's reverse-Midas touches. I've seen many nijiEN gems turn into shit since those three came around.

>>61800239
I love how people try to force Tenma. She is not even half way to Pippa and she is the ultimate collab babby. She is in the Lumi, Lia, Shiina tier.

>>61800239
>Idol cultivates their talents
Idol is bleeding viewership every month worse than Nijisanji. Phase Connect is murdering them
Remove Pippa from Phase, and Phase still narrowly beats Idol head to head. Pippa is a bonus.

>>61805544
Just admit you don’t watch streams, Tenma isn’t Pippa tier but all the ones you listed have significantly different levels of viewership other than maybe Lia and Shiina which are relatively similar.

>>61806105
good news is we're talking about numbers and I don't have to watch streams cause numbers don't lie. Lumi, Lia and Shiina are within a couple hundred viewers of Tenma. Tenma is not even within 1,500 viewers of Pippa. Tenma's biggest month ever (this month) she had exposure to Pippa's audience at least 3 times + Henya. She has been hard sucking from the Pippa teat the last 6 weeks

>>61805840
also what the fuck happened to idol

>>61806403
The yukodox happened which killed her audience, Rin only had the shorts which never translate into ccv
The rest never had a viewership to begin with

>>61796975
Will Fuwamoco be together or would one need to meet them separately?

>>61806403
HoloEn3

>>61806701
People call that new NijiEN with 200k subs from her PL account a flop but what the fuck is Riro with her 500k and barely getting 300 then

>>61806701
nobody cares about that with Yuko. but Yuko kinda got double fucked. She went from being the face of Idol, but then one day the algo picked Rin. That likely fucked with her head.
Then Gen2 cannibalized her. She is rebounding tho as Gen2 continues to flop.

>>61798416
With the ACCELERATE rate that they've been throwing out new waves, I find that VERY hard to believe.

>>61803844
Brighter than her shield? :^)

>>61805840
I knew something wasn't right with Idol Corp when at OffKai Phase Connect sold out all of their meet and greets at $30 each, and Idol only sold out Rin at $10 each. Artificial as fuck.

>>61807157
Is it really? Krisis the "gamer wave" was supposed to debut in around february or something and they originally had 6 members and they just debuted recently
Who knows how many people they have lined up for "training"

>>61797024
Even the cgdct bait?

>>61807639
Interestingly, no
Hasn’t had a 3view stream so far.

>>61798051
sub counts have been and always will be a meme.
dead subs are dead subs.

vtubing is a live viewership business. what was her ccv as an indie? if it is in the same ballpark, then yeah she was retarded.

>>61807086
I don't think kyoresu was ever known for streaming

>>61806301
>Tenma 969 CCV
>Lia 676 CCV
Thats like a 30% difference between them

>>61808366
now do the percentage between Tenma and Pippa

>>61796975
GRIM

>>61797024
kek

>>61808028
Much lower than what she's getting now, I'm not familiar with her previous channel's history but for some reason she had a ton of dead subs.

>>61806105(me)
>Tenma isn’t Pippa tier
>>61808928
We’ve already been over this, pls read.

>>61808928
about 250% difference between Pippa and Tenma.

>>61808366
Phase Connect has like 5 tiers
Tier 1
>Pippa
Tier 2
>Tenma
>Lumi
>Lia
>Shiina
Tier 3
>big cluster
Tier 4
>Hime
>Remi
Tier 5
>JP
Tenma is indisputably at the top of Tier 2, but Tier 2 nonetheless. This is not meant as insult either and rather a testament to how deep Phase is.
Also worth noting Lumi, Lia, and Shiina stream at the same time in overlap hell, where as Tenma has no competition.

>>61809592
>Tenma has no competition.
Panko overlaps Tenma’s youtube streams.

>>61809975
Panko doesnt take a single viewer away from Tenma. If anything Tenma takes from Panko

>>61805840
lol, is Lumi the only one double-dipping with twitch?

>>61810362
Tenma is also a twitch regular, she streams often at dead hours but seems to do better than her youtube by a fair bit

>>61810362
She barely has viewers on youtube

>>61796988
What didn't?

>>61796975
Man east coast gets all the good stuff, meanwhile we get stuck with this shit

>>61796975
WOAH holopro giving a bost to their newly debuted talents instead of leaving them in the dust to fend for themselves.

>>61813565
HoloEN CTW concert was on the west coast. Now they need to do CTW2 on the east coast.

>>61805299
that's what I'm afraid of. I hope management tardwrangles the sexpests since she's the only one that's actually doing well

>>61807283
I thought of that after I said it, but eh, figured it was fine. One can only hope her future stays that way!

>>61816417
The first was in the hood wasn't it? They probably gunned down all the chumpedos.

>>61799385
Why the fuck would an NDA from a contract that the other party terminated affect Nazuna, though?

>>61813565
Coasties can't complain, the midwest is fucking barren. They could easily do stuff in Chicago or Minneapolis, but so far we've gotten exactly 1 (one) convention appearance at ACen.

>>61801725
NDA isn't a Non compete. All it means is that nobody can talk about whatever agreement.
Considering Mikeneko streams on YouTube with zero issues on a post-firing account and Gunrun is in bed with Twitch staff, seems more likely the agreement is with Twitch.
Non competes are basically unenforceable anyways.

>>61809592
If it aint pippa are they really relevant

>>61801725
Isn't there a clip kson explaining that nazuna accepted a twitch partner program that forbid her from streaming on youtube like a year ago?
>inb4 they already allowed it
This contract obviously before they made those changes.

>>61797779
Shilily streamed on YT before and did much better, though
(Although to be fair, I suppose Shilily doesn’t get embedded in Twitch front page anywhere nearly as much)

>>61823507
they already changed it before she signed and debuted for vshojo/twitch because twitch changed it after people complained that amouranth was breaking policy, only recent change is that they allow simulcasting now as long as you show twitch chat on stream and not other platforsm

>>61796975
I hate that the ticket prices shot up to nearly 300 dollars for the three day pass

>>61796975
Wtf stone that tall??

>>61824184
Nigga why didn't you buy a ticket 6 months ago?

>>61824328
Because I wasn't sure I wanted to go. Especially because my main drive to go was because I wanted to show that even with all my progress on my physique I still wouldn't get approached by a girl so I can have an excuse to get more supplements.

>>61824300
She's standing on a moai

>>61824850
Bro....you could joined us for drinks.

>>61825785
I don't want drinks, I want to make it brah.

>>61826030
You could have joined us for uh, protein shakes brah.

>>61807150
Wrong, the BLACKED dox have fuck her, irony

would but no money. fuck, it would be neat to met some of the scum that lurks here.