/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>61370877
>How did she do it bros?
She's not afraid of being canceled by Twittereddit.

hopefully nothing, song's very mid and was completely passed over pre-MV
meanwhile Suisei's new MGO release absolutely rocks

>>61370877
>How did she do it bros?
Cunny

>>61370877
mog THIS
*cums violently in your mouth*

These would have happened to Gura if she had talent freedom

Don't # fag with a friend of holo and niji

>>61370877
>Guras initial subs
>this song
any corpo not going full cunny doesn´t like success

The most important thing to learn about from Ui and Marine's recent success is that you want a well animated 15-20 second dance sequence somewhere in your video.

>>61371673
that was my takeaway

>>61370877
>all in less than two months
the song took a year to make

>>61371851
>Average #fags can't count properly
Many such cases

>>61371673
It's a full package, the animation alone would not have been so successful if the music, the lyrics, the character design, etc. didn't exist. That said, loli + animation does seem to have an outsized effect. Reminds me a lot of the viral success that Kyoufuu All Back had.

>>61370877
she hired iosys and got lucky that the song was incredibly catchy
it's literally the same strategy that marine has been using

That's the power of IOSYS and loli.

>>61370877
Make a song that’s catchy and then 8 different groups of people think it’s a deep political message

>>61371851
She got the views in less than two months, we're not comparing production time

>>61370877
Jesus Christ what in the actual fuck is this trash?
It's just unbearable ear-piercing cancer with zero singing rhythm quality to it, this shit is like the Opening of those generic super low budget seasonal anime about school girls.
This has to be the most overhyped turd I've ever watched, I almost feel scammed.

>>61374995
filtered

>>61370877
>mogs every Vtuber original song
not yet it doesn't

>>61375239
What song has more views?

>>61375275
do some reps little tourist

That song released more than a year ago and I dont remember it ever hitting any milestones
So what is new about this one? IOSYS

tl;dr could've been any song and it would've done the same

>>61370968
this. It turns out that when you unironically bee yourself, people actually fucking love it and the seething faggots on the internet have no power whatsoever.

>>61375795
Let's be real, most people who have heard that song don't even know it's originally by a vtuber (barely)

>>61376098
That's not the song I'm talking about

>>61374995
Just say you don't like loli and go away

>>61371049
Suisei's a whore industry plant and her music sucks

https://youtube.com/shorts/iCSmIQeN37U
>that low energy dancing
How sedentary is she?

So Ui has now beaten every holo song after it beat Ochame Kinou, every Kamitsubaki song with Carnivorous Plant, and every niji song with Kuzuha KING.

There are a few stretch goals left though.
First is beating Tokyo Shandy Rendezvous, since KAF is the featured artist on that song. That way she can be most-viewed including songs with vtuber features.

Then after that a good one would be beating Pmaru's Sil vous President. Pmaru is iffy since she claimed not to be a vtuber for a long time but she kinda is now. There are good reasons for discounting her since she's a convert, but beating it would mean she can be most-viewed including songs by converts.

After that she can be first to 100M.

Should all happen in fewer than 200 days. Here's to a good first year for the MV.

How's her new song doing btw?

>>61377117
Seethe harder, the MGO track mogs any vtuber track that has ever been produced or will be produced (unless MGO mog it themselves with a different one)

>>61378579
I don't really consider KAF to be a vtuber. If we include all virtual bands, we're going to have to include groups like Gorillaz who have hundreds of millions of views on every song.

Still a long way to go to beat Namirin's cover song.

>>61378620
No loli no views. It's that simple

>>61378847
yes, depending on which people you count the bar for the numbers you need to beat get higher, including up to the biggest Gorillaz song which would be Feel Good Inc. at 778M

I think beating everything by holo/niji is the most important bar, but the growth hasn't stopped yet (846k views in the last 24 hours) so we might as well talk about which other milestones are next depending on how you expand the circle of what you count. And so Tokyo Shandy Rendezvous and Pmaru President are next

>>61375795
>>61376165
Pmaru wasn't a vtuber at the time.

>>61378956
It'll get there in about 2 years at current rates of decay

>>61370877
just checking to make sure i understand: you're asking how corpo vtubers can copy going viral on tiktok to an audience ironic weebs who don't watch chuubas or know/care who the song is by?

>>61380802
Not to downplay the success of lolikami but I honestly don't think it's going to reach 100mil, top 2 vtuber songs being a loli cover and a cunny original song is really nice though

>>61380936
100M is very possible, it's not losing views fast enough right now for it to be out of reach.
If it suddenly drops off a cliff then maybe, but so far it's looking fine

>>61376928
It's hot garbage. I listened to a static image version to avoid bias.
The """song""" is carried out hard by the meme dance and animation.

>>61370877
>dont be in a mcn shadowbanned by yt
ez

>>61370877
About time western prudes got educated in the appeal of lolis

>>61370877
Have an extremely well animated MV, that alone is what carried the entire song to mainstream status.
the actual song was released much earlier and didn't get nearly the same attention as the MV, so that proves it was the funny loli dance

carried by animation and pedos

>>61381276
cunnychads proving themselves as the strongest once again

>>61378956
Not a vtuber video.

>>61370877
The best part of it all is IOSYS getting the recognition it deserves.

>>61381125
The millions of views worth of non-animated covers already on youtube say otherwise.

>>61381276
That's a lot of pedos

>>61370877
>What will corpo vtubers copy from this success?

Hire IoSYS who made the song and the animator who made the animation? She didn't do shit except the vocals.

>>61380883
corpotubers are already on tiktok and appeal to ironic weebs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_7nwsmgXYw
EOPs just don't get the appeal of good ass denpa.

>>61381971
She's the one who got IOSYS to do a cunny song. Sorry normalfags, but you have to take the L on this one.

>>61381971
She designed the character and created the personality behind it. You can dismiss it if you want, but she's a professional illustrator; character design is one of her talents.

>>61382006
precisely, so there is nothing to copy. just keep making catchy meme songs and hope one of them goes viral. normies were doing tiktok dances to marine's song too.

>>61370877
>How she do it
Cunny
>Will corpos follow it
Lmao, Gura had trouble passing her daki and the niji fans are all the type to call you pedo for watching this
>muh small corpo tho
Doesn’t matter those copy every single thing already

>>61378956
How do we count the "Lots of people click on it thinking it's the original" percentage? Not counting those who make that mistake and keep going back to itbecause they prefer it or never find out

What made the song popular is the solid chorus, the novel and edgy subject matter, and the appealing high quality animation.
What makes the song genius is that every girl doing a cover has to do the 60 second fanservice segment in the exact middle of the song.
https://youtu.be/sY22ntY9TnQ?t=111

Naturally the latter gets overlooked, but I've never expected plebeians to understand genius to begin with.

Turns out every other person is a pedo. Not a big surprise at all.

Almost like psychology is a fake and anti-scientific field and its designations are equally fake or something.

>>61370877
it's a cute cunny that teases you to rape her but is subtle about it

>>61370877
>refuses to stream as loli despite half her subs being from it
what a waste of potential

>>61384148
She's being strategic about it. Loli Ui is supposed to be a special event and if she just starts streaming as her all the time or in reaction to the MV's success it won't be.

>>61374995
gomi

>>61370877
Nothing at all because it’s a one hit wonder that managed to please the algo in just the right way.

>>61384575
True, Ui's success with this song is something nobody's going to be able to imitate for the rest of their lives.

>>61384148
newfag. She has done loli streams for years now.

https://youtu.be/f5y29bL-VmE?t=1827

>>61377951
she is an artist so her ass is growing roots into the seat

All she needs to do is put Ui (9) in the thumbnail and title of another orisong and it's guaranteed to get at least 10m.

>>61382151
IOSYS got her to do the cunny song, do people really not know the backstory

Why aren't holos doing proper covers yet? Is it possible that there are a few in production but tracing over the gagame animation to replace it with their loli selves is making it take a while?

Even Pmaru put out a cover, although she didn't even bother updating the video and ripped it as-is which is kinda cringe

>>61384148
They're low quality, soon-to-be-dead subs anyways. She was actually growing pretty well organically before the viral hit. I'm worried that she's going avoid loli Ui for a while because it brought the worst kind of viewers to the chat.

>>61370877
be good to the watamage,
be blessed by the watamage
many such examples

>>61386229
the chat hasn't changed that much, really even her viewership hasn't changed that much

>>61372129
This song is 1 year old and nobody cared about it until the MV

lolicons sure are powerful huh

>>61386486
Songs without MVs never do well

>>61386229
She uses Loli Ui like once a year, what's there to avoid?

>>61386486
A complete product isn't just the sum of the parts and ad populum is not an argument.

>>61386486
Yep, the MV makes a difference. Same with any song without a music video. If it's just a lyric video, it won't do as well as a full blown music video. The combination of loli character, animation, and song is important. Not just one thing alone.

>>61370877
>How did she do it bros?
Same way anything becomes popular nowadays: memes

>>61380883
this
its the same as why marine's songs have so many views from tourists
sex sells

>>61370877
Lolis are they key to success.
Hopefully we get more all or nearly all loli gens in every corp in the future.

>>61387979
At least in Hololive they're going to have to stop placing limiters on Gura's powerlevel for that to work.

>>61388048
I'm an optimisticbud so I'm hoping she's cooking the meal of a lifetime in this extended absence and she'll be back stronger than ever afterwards, but don't let anyone know I don't want bullies to pick on me

>>61381971
>>61387413
>>61388048
How successful this MV would've been if it was animated by Kanauru instead?

she knows

>IOSYS did ahoy too
Oh yeah this is all on them and nothing on Ui, even a song by Fauna who cannot sing would get millions of views in a week if its done by IOSYS

>>61370968
It blew up because social media loved it though

>>61389940
they've put out plenty of duds too, you're not guaranteed success with them

based kenmochi, forcing a hag to being the best she can be by mindfucking her in tetris

>>61389940
Ui is integral to MV anon. Ui(9) is her character design, her voice, her sexy bratty abusive personality, and her memes. By all means IOSYS gets a share of the fame too and I think they'll have a lot more negotiating power when commissioning orisongs in the future, but if you think everyone else will be able to just pop out 50 million views in 2 months you're sorely mistaken. Ahoy clearly didn't.

>>61388451
None at all if you want a cold answer to a stupid hypothetical question, everyone loves the current style / animation that made it a hit. Why do you think someone could do it better?

>>61370877
>What will corpo vtubers copy from this success?
that memes = views

>>61389940
Ahoy is a fucking failure in comparison. Nobody even remembers in exists anymore.

>>61381971
I'm more impressed that IOSYS is still cranking out bangers, unless it's just completely different people now from the people that made all the hit Touhou meme songs 20 years ago.

>>61391235
What's the meme here

>>61381125
You forgot the part where the loli verbally abuses (you). I could listen to that all day long

>>61391773
>IOSYS making niche songs for the vtubing industry
>vocaloid artists becoming famous musicians
>loli hentai doujin artists becoming serialized mangaka
>web novelists becoming serialized authors and getting anime adaptations
>a bunch of literalwho nico streamers/vsingers becoming the modern vtubing industry
>fucking Noa got half a million dollars to fund his Elona sequel
Japan basically turned the entire otaku-sphere of the 2000s into a massive creative talent pool the likes of which can't be found anywhere in the world.

>>61383483
50% of the world is male, so your math checks out

>>61390880

>>61370877
>What will corpo vtubers copy from this success?
Do whatever you can to hire Gagame, he's a secret sauce for going viral.
I don't think IOSYS, Warabe, or Ui were as important to the song's success as gagame, but only in the sense that you could conceivably replace them with people of similar competence and you could still see success.

As long as you have a catchy song, a strong concept, competent editing, good-enough singing, and gagame, you've got a chance.

>>61370877
>How did she do it bros?
Bots literally.

>>61393277
Gagame did one of Patra's MVs and it wasn't that popular

>>61392392
Not exactly a meme but the green screen of the loli ui animation is being used as a trend on tiktok. They just slap it on to any video to pretend she's dancing in some random location. Sometimes on a pet, sometimes on a sports car as a joke. Just really random shit.

>>61391773
>Words:まろん(IOSYS)様
>maron47
Is a relatively new member and wasn't around all the way back then.
>Music & Arrange & MIX:D.watt(IOSYS)様
>wattchan
Was around back then but didn't make any of the arrangements that reached meme status.
ARM is the one responsible for most of the popular IOSYS arrangements. He's still around but isn't as active as the others.
He made Ahoy, Salome's original song and that one joke day drama song for Marine.

>>61393813
So the success of the song is because of the IOSYS animation and it could've been anybody?
Glad we finally put this to rest now

It's kind of surreal how Ui's stream numbers are almost exactly the same yet every single clip of her from the last month pulls absolutely retarded numbers.

>>61393485
patra doesn't have the chops as a composer or lyricist, and she didn't provide enough of a concept for anyone to latch onto.
gagame can't carry entirely by himself but I doubt there's another force multiplier as potent that's been used by anyone else so far in the vtubersphere.

>>61393953
>IOSYS animation
retard

>>61394011
shorts never translate into stream viewers

>>61393813
>>61393953
>Loli Ui is the new dancing cat and will be seen in memes for years to come
BASED

>>61394042
I think it's catchy, her voice is probably an acquired taste though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M65e5t4XWTc

>>61393936
maron has been contributing to IOSYS releases since 2016

but for holosongs he did:
ahoy
hoi hoi gensou holoism
earphone romance
sasakure cinema
akutan no koto sukisugi song
pekomiko daisensou
mikkorone showtime
shishiwata cooking
4 negi u songs
tondeK! holosummer
holomen ondo

>>61394099
I don't mean shorts, I mean those japanese clip channels that cut up streams and add editing to vtuber streams. They have to represent more than 80% of the views on Ui's stream content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH-79GuEJ00
This one video has double the views of the stream it's clipped from.

>>61394584
>maron has been contributing to IOSYS releases since 2016
That's what I mean by relatively new. He wasn't there for the things people know IOSYS for but right now he's probably the most prominent member.

>>61370877
Meme, pedobait, IOSYS

>>61391270
actual retard

>>61393813
Read the comments from this one
https://youtu.be/til1yw6eJio?si=3KsYN0mzJ1SthlCE

https://youtube.com/shorts/yt7a0WJmy8I?si=2pz7YhBBkwC-ojm3

>>61370877
Its a loli song so it not surprising
imagine gooba made a song like this
imagine the westoids outrage

>>61393953
>IOSYS animation
I’m tired Mr. Hitler…

>>61395265
He's right though

>>61395265
How is that retarded? Nobody genuinely talks about it anymore. Nobody is listening to the song. It's completely forgotten, dead and buried.

>>61394580
I think patra's contributions end up being a debuff to that MV. Like Gagame's animation performs better when more removed from stuff Patra is adding to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoDWHeC6czY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttMy8Sn-Gtg

>>61395455
>Nobody is listening to the song
That nobody? Me.

>>61371282
Mogu mogu

>>61371282
*swallows*

>>61395561
Wouldn't say so, shorter videos just do better and that Cola shake video got picked up hard by the algorithm a few years ago
Plus it's just animated a lot more smoothly than the MV

>>61370877
By appealing to pedos. Expect more loli and toddlercons avatars.

>>61394580
Denpa purists say she's too mainstream now but her voice and style still fall into the same area that will only appeal to a limited number of people.

>>61395650
Yeah, it's just you who cares about it.

>>61370877
Pedophiles > Unicorns > Normies > Twitter trannies.

Hai, hai, hai, hai~!

Lolis dominate every field they're freely allowed to compete in. That's why they have to make rules and punish artists for making them.

Hags simply can't compete.

>>61397256
Is that why nobody watches their streams?

>>61397256
This is exceptionally noticeable because loli is a hidden tag on dlsite that you have to search for, where as #1 and #3 instantly pop up on the sidebar.

Kill every single pedophile on planet Earth

>>61397557
Better start with yourself.

>>61380520
> posting from Elsevier journals
literally subhuman

>>61393485
Because there's no loli. Patra's design is kind of shit.

>>61397557
cool it with the anti semitic remarks

>>61370877
She hired a popular composer and lyricist and a popular animator, got lucky timing in the algorithm.
Herself did very little

>>61371049
pre-mv it wasn't even on her channel anon

>>61395772
>>61395759
Fucking saplings

>>61377117
based
her ego is too big too

>>61397256
NTR number 1 between users. Japan is truly a hopeless country. They can't be saved.

>>61370877
I'm sorry anon, but Shigure Ui is a corpo
She's Shigure Ui from Shigure Ui pro under Shigure Ui corp

>>61370877
The exact same reason a shitty game like Nobeta got popular

IOSYS and Kagame are both hit or miss, they have very specific creative specialties that don't work with everyone (I don't see them meshing well with Suisei, for example). Plenty of holos have tried over the years to get big hits out of IOSYS but never surpassed, or really even came close to, Ahoy. Ui(9)+IOSYS+Kagame simply struck a perfect formula together that far surpassed what any of them were capable of alone.

In particular both IOSYS and Kagame tend to default to a pretty safe otaku-moe style, even in the older stuff they're more well known for, and kind of rely on their skill and reputation to stand out. Although they are very good at what they do, when paired with more conventional vtubers it produces an also conventional performance as most vtubers just want some cutesy off-jpop with memes mixed in. IOSYS did Akutan Suki Sugi and it's the most boring vanilla shit I've ever heard. Ui is the one who changed this pattern radically by giving them something really fucking edgy and sexual to make instead of the usual cutesy personalized pop song.

Basically, Ui(9) gave them a unique attitude that isn't present in most of their other works. This had a cascading effect where D.watt produced a different tone of instrumental to suit that attitude (which was very good) and Kagame atypically drew a sexually aggressive dancing loli (which was very good) and Maron wrote a bunch of lyrics that half of hololive are terrified to recite to this day and ENs are literally banned from singing. All of this happened because of Ui being a flippant lolicon with a depraved fandom who were the main target of the song.

>>61404729
Nobeta isn't popular though.

>>61404823
Popularity is relative. It would normally never have even been noticed. The fact that we both know what it is means that it's already overrated for that reason

> seething at loli dark souls out of nowhere
mindbroken by cunny and not in the fun way

>>61405357
Don't even compare that kusoge to dark souls. It's trash

>>61405122
Sure. I still wouldn't consider the game itself popular. It's more like a meme that all the kids that think it's cool to be an ironic lolicon on twitter claim to like but then have never actually played it.

>>61395347
>>61395347
the niggas actually put that edit into their vid

>>61404806
>tldr loli fetishism is quite literally what made the MV go off
The very thing that the downplayers are absolutely desperate to avoid admitting.

>>61375912
>>61381214
almost like success is random and requires you to get the right people to see it at the right time.

Cunny rules the world
>>61405721
Specifically they used the Ui loli edit as their Spotify cover for the song, so it just loops Ui dancing around black people the whole time.

>>61403245
it's really not
stop believing made up rankings made by people with agenda to promote infidelity and destruction of family values

>>61370877
the world loves cunny

>>61403245
>>61406454
This has been discussed before. NTR is #1 and loli is #2, yet there is almost no loli-NTR overlap. This is because the normalfags love cuckshit while the sane people love loli.

this song has been out for a year or so right? It's being carried purely by it's animation and how clippable it is for tiktok lmfao once the meme-ness of it dies off it will fade

>>61407608
>almost no loli-NTR overlap
this is amazing considering that loli-ntr is quite literally the plot of the original lolita

>>61404806
>lyrics that half of hololive are terrified to recite
Aren't most Nijis avoiding the song even moreso?

>>61408199
Cope

>>61407608
So in short if you don't like loli you're a cuck.

>>61396997
sex

>>61370877
Except She didn't? Namirin with 156M views and counting with Her Renai Circulation cover

>>61411174
Will you irysharts ever learn to read?

>>61411174
>not an original song
>not a Hololive or Nijisanji MV
Not sure what you're trying to say here

>>61411174
Orisong retard

The weekend bump has been decent so far, she hit a nadir of 785k new views per 24 hours during the weekday stretch but is back up to 909k in the last 24 hours right now. Pretty decent chance she gets back up to 1M a day tonight, or at least 950k.

>>61371465
>
The biggest Vtuber in /idol/ is a tomboy and almost everyone else is a cunnt and they aren’t even close to her

If the current rate of decay sticks where every week she gets about 90% of the previous week's views then in about 6 months she'll have gotten to about 90M and at that point the growth will be quite slow, comparable to Sil vous President or whatever, which would suggest that it won't be able to beat it to 100M.

But if instead she can average say, 93% decay going forwards instead of 90% then we're on the planet where she hits 100M in about 5 months.

The next few weeks will be interesting.

>>61413926
>>61414242
Is this what /numbers/ is like?

>>61407608
Source or proof for this claim?

>>61414645
not really, most of the people who actually care about numbers left and now the thread is just shitposters who squat on it and talk about random shit that has nothing to do with numbers 70% of the time

It struck me how Japanese Internet has made a real comeback since vtubers got popular. Japanese Internet was once this constant presence on Western Internet, but then that influence faded in the 2010s, displaced by gookshit.

>>61397358
I only watch loli streams.

>>61415045
i like this gif

>bigger number = better song
numberfag brain rot.

>>61370877

>>61413947
That's because she was several steps ahead of everyone else in her company by abusing the shorts algo.

Where did Ui say ISOSYS were the ones who came to Ui and convinced her to make the song?
I've heard this repeated a few times now but that's not the impression I got from the initial reveal/promo stream where she talked a little bit about the process of getting IOSYS to make the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rZ9C6njp2U