/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>61307136
Based, but what about Gura?

>nijiEN wave announced
>catalog is full of holoEN seethe threads
I don't get it.

>>61307195
Her message:

Respectfully,
Squeeb yourself

>>61307303
Why are you defending a complete stranger, anon?

>>61307136
Ina doesn't exclusively draw sexy art, and her model isn't inherently sexual.
also, it's reasonable to want fanart of your model to at least be accurate to your model.

nijiseethe

Why would anyone truly respect or care about what a bunch of paypigs want? Some will always stick anyway.

>>61307136
Do everybody in Myth and hope.

>>61307136
Do everyone in Myth and promise

>>61307136
It feels like an all out war out there

>>61307136
Kill yourself OP

>>61307136
>We are not and will never be friends
I always found it hilarious how antis latched onto this yab when "Cool it!" already happened and was said with more frustration.

>>61308288
Qrd

>>61307136
autoimmune conditions are not self-inflicted, bro.

>>61308341
>Fauna: "Cool it!" (said with frustration)

>>61308425
>get sick when eating bread
>don't get sick when not eating bread
>keep eating bread and getting sick
>Ame: "There is nothing more that can be done, by me or anyone else on Earth. This is my life now."

>>61308341
>chat being lame
>streamer says hey stop doing that

Wasn't Ina's thing the comment she said during Mori's collab?

why are >they like this

>>61307136
>Her message: Don't sexualize my character
Anon you know that coomers send extremely sexual messages that would concern most people. Hololive talents don't get any input on their models or default outfits so Ina got stuck with a design that would typically be used by a lewd vtuber. How can you accuse a vtuber of hypocrisy when Cover is the one at fault?

>>61308288
well, that one wasn't followed by a pseud ramble full of obvious statements that arguably insult the audience's intelligence, so that's not a surprise.

>>61309053
/vt/ found out where he lives and where he works. It’s only a matter of time before his life is utterly ruined so might as well go all out while he can.

>>61309109
>insult the audience's intelligence
>intelligence
>saplings

>>61308500
not that she hasn't done that, but what really sucks is that you also get sick from stuff that's merely contaminated with bread, not just from bread itself.

>>61309242
If she said that, it's a bit more understandable.
Doesn't she like... straight up eat bread and bread products, though?

>two months on hrt

>>61307136
Looks like OP isn't grown-up enough to improve himself.

>>61307230
They know the new wave will be another failure so they need to fill the catalog with seethe threads to deflect.

I will never understand why people are mad that Ame and Fauna don’t want to lie to their audience.

>>61310630
Because they enjoy the lies

TTTflop deflection post

>>61310667
That isn’t healthy though. It’s like a drug addict getting mad when people say drugs are bad.

>>61310879
...so like every single drug addict in the world?

>>61311070
Self aware drug addicts exist.

>>61310630
>be thin
>go to fast food place to get a burger
>decor is plastered with images of naked morbidly obese people, fat rolls, liposuction, COPD, greasy clogged arteries
>"IF U EAT BURGER U WILL GET THIS, DON'T EAT BURGER"
>no longer feel hungry

>>61310879
Anon this a hobby where lonely men throw money at women pretend to be cutesy for money. Its a stupid sad hobby top to bottom.

>>61310630
The people that are mad are extremely mentally ill. Thankfully these events act as a filter, which should mean that all those mentally ill people now have fucked off and will be mentally ill somewhere else.

>>61310879
Yep. Now you understand

Yeah we know but ultimately it's like screaming that someone as gross as Assmongoloid is worth 10 million dollars or that Pewdiepie and Notch could buy your mom and become your new dad. In the end it's not worth worrying about, it's just a factor of the modern economy's decline.

>>61307195
she doesn't work but also doesn't shit talk her fans

>>61310630
Because they work for a Japanese idol company who's main purpose is to package and sell these lies in order to exploit lonely men out of their money. Most viewers understand the truth but it doesn't mean they want to hear it directly while watching.

Become a gacha fan instead, you can spend thousands on PNGs with zero stigma and they won't talk back

>>61312913
But Yagoo came out a long time ago and said Hololive is not an idol agency

>>61307136
The world is unfair sis. This is a fact even kids know.

>>61307136
>>Her message: Don't sexualize my character
retard bait OP but I'll bite because other retards might actually take this at face value.
Ina had exactly two """""incidents""""" that are being misconstrued to reach this conclusion.
The first was the Ina's Back meme that saw massive popularity. Her issue with it wasn't that people were drawing her back and giant ass, but that people were talking about it in other peoples chats and was concerned it woulda nnoy her colleagues. It's the standard hololive-wide rule to not bring up other vtubers unprompted.
The second was the "4th wah" where Ina simply asked that people not post NSFW or explicit art in her SFW art tag, a completely reasonable request.

In short OP is a faggot dramabaiter who doesn't watch streams, as usual.

>>61307136
>Be a mid-tier streamer with unremarkable content

>>61311358
>food analogy

>>61313820
NTA but I literally tuned in to her streams randomly a few times this year and saw her lecturing her chat at least HALF those times, I didn't stay more than 15 minutes too.
So either I was the unluckiest watcher on earth or this is a more common occurrence than you claim.

>>61307136
>>61307399
>>61309109
Heh.

>>61307136
Who thinks a streamer could be their friend? You can't be so fragile that being reminded of the reality of vtubers once in a blue moon makes you seethe and cry.

nooooooooooo not le heckin baserino vtuber!!!
AIEEEE

>>61307136
>NOOoo why are you giving her views! She said she's not your friend!

>>61307136
Fauna is a great streamer. She has some of the best wit and chat interaction in EN who constantly produces memes and running jokes with her community. She's also a very interesting person with deep knowledge of internet culture but also has many hobbies outside that keeps her commentary varied. But you wouldn't know because you're just a thread reader.

>make hundreds of thousands of dollars
>complain about being poor

>>61321752
>She has some of the best wit and chat interaction in EN who constantly produces memes and running jokes with her community. She's also a very interesting person with deep knowledge of internet culture but also has many hobbies outside that keeps her commentary varied.
I occasionally watch Fauna and none of that comes across.

>>61307136
Fuck you op, but thanks for summarizing this thread's constant hate boner for these 3

>>61307136
>Ame, Improve yourself
Honestly it was funny when she said it, but I'm more annoyed at how much she blames everyone but herself. It's become her brand to be a salty gamer, which is something that popular streamers are known for like Tyler1 and xQc, but it's just not as funny when Ame does it.

>Ina: "Don't sexualize my character"
One of the many incredible things about /vt/ is that even after something has been explained multiple times, ESL (usually SEA) fail to comprehend or just want to shit up the catalog. The only thing she has said on this subject is that if you are going to sexualize her character she does not want to see it, as in don't fucking use her tags. That's why there is an unofficial ecchi art tag for her on twitter: #4thwah

>Fauna: "We are not and will never be friends"
This was basically the mental illness test. People who were upset at this were either convinced they were actually friends with Fauna (when Fauna knows almost nothing about each individual fan compared to how much her fans know about her) or just wanted to shit up the catalog. And the only reason why she went out of her way to say this was because she responded to a bait SC that said: ""For me to call a man my friend, he must be equal to me in all respects"-Griffith. Do you agree with this quote, do hierarchies define friendships, could you befriend a sapling or are they just simps." This little bitch is an example of someone with borderline personality disorder with his white or black reasoning. You are either a friend or a simp. I'm assuming that he's claiming this because you if you are a fan of a female you are actually just a simp, but with that same logic you can't be friends with a female you are only interested in fucking her (so if she is already dating someone you are either a cuck or waiting for your chance). Fauna should have never entertained the SC, but her response made me realize she is one of the few vtubers that don't have mental illness.

>>61307136
It's literally impossible to not escape the redpill. Even with vtubers. The woman-brain is universal.

>>61324244
*impossible to escape

>>61316811
exactly, it's so obvious as to be unnecessary.

>>61308935
No, she was drawing a not LOZ artpiece and was doing the sketch and someone pointed out the way the trees were done it looked like the small of her back. Ina then made a comment about how not everything has to be sexual and drug it out for a bit too long. It was an innocent comment that a greynig was cruxified for.

>>61323751
she may not be mentally ill, but the fact that she thought she should say it suggests she's not that smart, either.

>>61312913
Exploit isn't the right word, everyone knows what's up. Lonely men get fake emotional attention and yhe girls get money, is not like if your average chuuba viewer stop watching they will get a gf.

>>61324565
A lot of vtubers say unnecessary things every stream. If something unnecessary is said you tend to ignore it unless it actually strikes a nerve, and at that point you either needed to hear it, or it wasn't that obvious to you because it caused a strong enough reaction to seethe about for months.

>>61324699
Nah, I think it shows she is highly intelligent.

OP has discovered a society where money is derived from buying and selling things rather than laboring and building is one in which people who are good atbullshitting other people out-earn people who 'work really hard' and protestant work ethic is a sad meme for suckers.

>>61324244
lol not a redpill but that's pretty funny.

>>61321752
>make meaningless progress on your tree in a dead minecraft server
>hey do you guys remember that cursed meme from reddit 8 years ago
>UUUUUUUU
>I want to be real with you guys but I will NEVER use my real voice

>>61326081
>I want to be real with you guys but I will NEVER use my real voice
>*stubs toe*
>ow FUCK!

>>61326081
God I wish more vtubers were this cute, funny, and kept up the kayfabe for this long

>>61313820
Ina was furious with coomers for making boob jokes while she was drawing Kronii. When she asked viewers to tone down the fan art because she wanted to keep her art tag suitable for children. Her comment about revealing outfits that she made before Cover gave her that 3 month radio silent "health" break. The time she was asked by chat whether she would release a sexy daki and laughed before saying that will never happen. The 10 minute lecture where she told viewers that she isn't a lewd vtuber and the back meme doesn't represent her content. She clearly doesn't want to play the role of a sexy waifu.

>>61328363
>She clearly doesn't want to play the role of a sexy waifu.
And her opinion on this matters because..........?

>>61323751
On your second point and third to a lesser extent I'll fully tell you that it's not that they don't understand it's that it's easier to make a strawman out of it when you leave out the context.
You also have /#/s who purposely schizo out about rrats because someone they don't like is doing better than someone they do like which is why fauna attracted so many schizos in that thread.

The world really would be better if we banned that thread in particular

>>61309109
You know the word “audience” typically equates to more than just one person right? Of course what she said can be insulting to those that already understand, but there are definitely those amongst the thousands that don’t see the obvious. The thing is that she, along with many streamers who’s audience grows pass a certain threshold, can’t feasibly search for every single last low IQ fan and privately say this to each of them. I think her only mistake was not putting enough emphasis on who she was and was not directing this towards.

>>61332490
u wanna suk fuk bladeline? morpheus awoon one nega deez

>>61328363
No one cares outfitschizo. Go back to /wah/

>>61310879
the difference here is that the person lecturing you about drugs being bad is your dealer

>>61307136
i like this post

>>61323751
>Fauna should have never entertained the SC
It's probably something that was on her mind anyway. She explained it all, how she felt about becoming friends with YouTubers, about importance of real friends, and so on. Some of that was her fear of creating fanbase who is too parasocial (especially after Kronii fiasco that happened around the same time I believe), some of that was actual concern for her fans. The only person she hated at that time was herself, and by telling her fans that they should aim for real friends, or get closer with their family, she told them that they deserve more than herself. Some people got mad over that because they prefer lies and just being told they are friends, and I'm their anger rejected Fauna when she was the most open and showing her vulnerability - one that only a friend wouldn't hide from you. Ironic, really.

>>61307136
picrel is them mocking my small penis

>>61309063
actually its that fate artists fault for having good taste

>>61313453
Source?

>>61328484
>And her opinion on this matters because..........?
Management seems to agree with that since they put a far higher priority on getting coomer money. After what they did with Aventure Holic they don't have any issue sexualizing the JP talents even when it pisses them off. There is no question how little they would care about foreigners and that would be a simple explanation for why the EN branch has so many problems if employee morale is constantly in the sewer.

>>61324597
"hurr durr the trees look like ur back!"
She was right to call him out, that's a dumb comment to keep to yourself.

>>61323751
>Fauna
You're right, she should have ignored the SC. Anyone trying to be clever by using a quote from someone should be ignored no matter what the amount of their donation was.

>>61324597
you just hiding the fact that the Ina's back meme had been spammed to hell and back at this point, and all she said really was that she didn't want her streams getting derailed by uoooogh ina's back memes

>>61332909
I like CGDCT, not GFE

>>61307243
kek underrated post

>>61307136

>Ame
If only the perfect were allowed to criticize, then there’d be no criticism. & “Improve yourself” is applicable to many different things. Don’t know how aware she is about the fans that feel entitlement for reasons that AREN’T overly-parasocial (eg fans of CGDCT, highly self-aware GFE fans, etc). But I‘m fairly certain that she was criticizing particular fans of hers whose over-parasocialness was causing their issues with the mixed collabs; so she was telling them to “improve yourself” in that regard. Can you find an example of any overly-parasocial behaviors from Ame? And no, parasocial ≠ overly-parasocial. If you can’t, then it’s not about her definitely being a hypocrite for also being overly-parasocial, it’s about her only technically being a hypocrite because of her struggles with improvement.

>Ina
Do you not see the difference between Risqué & Borderline Hardcore Porn nor the spectrum surrounding them? What about between Appreciating the Physique & Lusting? Because she obviously does since she’s able to make pinups, while also have boundaries about posts with portrayals of what’s essentially her Alter Ego. Can you find an example of her either being legitimately thirsty or her not apologizing for making artwork of someone’s model that made the person uncomfortable? If not then she’s just sensitive about her Alter Ego.

>Fauna
Bonds aren’t limited to romance, lust, and friendship. She definitely could’ve went about it better. Like having a clear disclaimer about who she is and is not directing this towards. And could’ve gone into more detail about the value of the relationship she & her community have with each other and how it’s not nothing, rather than only really detailing its limits. But this doesn’t make her a hypocrite.

>>61342471
Whores. All women are whores.

Didn't Ina just say there's a time and place for that
And Fauna and Ame's things are them trying to get rid of the creeps. If women telling you to fuck off triggers you that much maybe you should find a new hobby or something dude

>>61307136
Keep seething anon. Fuana will never be your friend. Unlike me, who she does nightly asmr and nursing hj's for.

It's astonishing how Fauna antis cling to that one moment where she blew out this annoying faggot schizo who has a history of harassing all of the girls. Though I know the trash spreading this don't care about specifics or even logic and just want fuel to spam.

>>61334500
>after Kronii fiasco that happened around the same time I believe
Actually this was right after the off-collab with Kronii. Fauna said Kronii "gave her a reality check", so people were immediately wary of Kronii being a poor influence.

>>61342842
>trying to get rid of the creeps
No, Fauna's intentions were not to filter anyone. She just wants people to not neglect their real-life friends because of vtubers/streamers. It's a naive take, but not an unreasonable or unfriendly one.

>>61343098
She's squeaky-clean otherwise, so it's all they have to go on.

>>61307136
This. Name one reason to unironically watch a female outside of GFE. You can't. These women demand too much.

>>61307230
Holofag false flagging Niji seeth

>>61343098
>s-she totally did it to btfo that one creep haha! she even knew about his past!
embarrassing post

>>61307230
spbp

>>61343098
>she blew out this annoying faggot schizo who has a history of harassing all of the girls.
That's a bad thing because that guy represented what we're actually all thinking. Remember, vtubers are only good for GFE, to simulate the experience of having a wife and possibly raising a family together. Actual "entertainment" is nowhere to be seen, so purity and innocence is of the utmost importance.
>>61343351
This.

Fauna's "yab" was so weak that I was more concerned when she talked about going to frat parties.

>>61343683
>frat parties
Unicorns on suicide watch

>>61343715
All 3 of them because she never developer that kind of fanbase.

>>61342805
>Whores. All women are whores.
who hurt you anon?
or are you just easily influenced?

>>61310879
Go up to your local meth addict and start explaining how meth is bad dfor your health.

>>61343463
>vtubers are only good for GFE
speak for yourself,
I find them entertaining to listen to

>>61310630
if you went to watch WWE and the wrestlers weren't even pretending that it's real what'd be the point of the whole thing?

>>61344280
Clearly, to see sweaty men touch each other you fag

>>61340416
How can you be this fucking stupid? She pushes the meme again and again and got tons of engagement from it and then decided she's above it and insulted her fans, it's entitled cunt behavior in every single circumstance.
>boohoo my model is sexualized
THAT'S YOUR FUCKING JOB

>>61321752
based and true
fauna is the best pure youtuber/lets player of en

>>61344495
>don't sexualize my model
>has an NSFW art tag
you retards didn't think this through

>>61326081
kino

>>61326081
nijiseethe

>>61344567
She knows people are going to do it no matter what she says, so she gives a separate tag so that she never has to see it. She still hates it and prefers it didn't exist.

>>61343351
>>61343463
Chinless manlet stubby hands wrote this

>>61323751
Funny how you are baffled by the threadreader level of catalog faggotry for Ina and Fauna but just go along and completely spew out the exact same thing you are baffled by for Ame. Literally nothing there is even remotely beyond bullshit spewed catalogfaggotry. You are quite literally the mentally ill you are talking about

>>61307243
KEK'D

>>61312137
She doesn't even acknowledge their existence, that's honestly worse than getting shittalked

>>61326081
Her real voice is more straining on her throat than the "new" voice.

>>61310719
This gen might very well break the records for biggest flop of all time.

>>61344383
BIG MEATY MEN
SLAPPING MEAT

>>61343178
Entertainment

>>61343463
>vtubers are only good for GFE
I almost feel bad for you.

>>61308341
Fauna told chat to cool it with the anti-semitic remarks

>>61334500
The whole point of vtubers is to be your surrogate friend/girlfriend, if one is telling you to find a real one they're essentially telling you to stop watching them. I thought Fauna was smart but if she can't see the contradiction here then she's pretty dumb, or as usual it's woman think that men are super nice to you just because they value what you're saying and not because they are semi in love with you.

>>61346372
If I want to be entertained I'll watch a male flesh streamer.
Women in general are bad at entertainment (case in point name a female comedian that isn't Kathy Griffin).
And the only male vtubers that entertained me were Fulgur and Flayon, even then the nature of vtubing (GFE/BFE being the #1 draw) means they have to pander to females which ruins my entertainment.

>>61343889
No one would be watching them if they were men

>>61348063
this is demonstrably true with holostars

>>61348046
This. If a guy was doing the things they do literally no one would watch them. They are not good at games, they don't have well developed understanding of the world and they are not that funny. Men watch them because they want female attention, them thinking they are doing more than that is exactly the same as a porn actress thinking she is an artist and shaming her fans for being coomers.

>>61348010
>The whole point of vtubers is to be your surrogate friend/girlfriend
If that's your only reason then it's pretty sad. You sound like schizo in the making, 70% there.

>>61307136
>They are my precious saplings and I will do my best to entertain them and I am of course grateful for all their attention and support
>But I can not call them a friend, they are not on my level and never will be

>>61307136
>be a fan of godlike Hololive
>all out war

>>61348205
That's everyone's reason. Do you have a girlfriend who you are completely satisfied with and love, yet still watch and financially support vtubers? Idols grew out of the incel mecca of Japan, where men have decades ago dropped irl romantic relationships for simulations of them.

>>61348261
Fauna could have just said "please don't stalk me, the interaction we have should be limited to the approved channels" instead of blowing up her Kayfabe. Fauna you're not a good person for preying on the loneliness of men so don't try to justify yourself.

>>61348408
This is why she isn't friends with you

>>61307136
>wahhhhh Hololive is... waaaaaa
Cry more fag, your oshi is shit and will never be successful because their fans are a bunch of faggots like you that spend their time crying about Hololive in the Holoboard.

>>61348444
Fauna and other women aren't friends with me because I'm not an attractive man that raises their status

>>61348170
>They are not good at games, they don't have well developed understanding of the world and they are not that funny.
you just described majority of top male streamers, my guy
streamers in general get by on being personable/relatable, goofy and ,most importantly, AROUND

>>61348530
improve yourself then, maybe sexualise her character for good measure

>>61310630
I dropped ame for doing homocollabs. I don't really care how parasocial they are, I just like watching cute girls and Fauna is just that

>>61348712
Even a retard like Hassan would absolutely destroy Fauna in a discussion on anything

>>61348822
well obviously, Fauna actually considers fact-checking her points sometimes

>>61348727
No, I watch vtubers instead, if I was doing that I would not watch vtubers. If you are about self improvement you would not be watching vtubers, so why is a vtuber telling me to self improoove?

>>61348283
I don't have anyone, and yet I don't watch vtubers for GFE either. It's just entertainment, and especially with big corpo like Hololive you have collabs, concerts, events, it's like watching anime, except you can pick your main character. But maybe that's because I'm more of a loner than lonely.

>>61345108
So when dipshit monkeys start acting up in her chat despite all this, it's within her rights as the person running the stream to tell them to shut up

>>61310719
Why do they always have stupid names
>Claude Clawmark
Sounds like a cartoon villain

>>61307786
Because that's 80% of your income

>>61349274
then you wouldnt mind watching holostars, correct? if you mind then you're just lying to yourself. "Wanting a female companion" is the name of the business. Thats why most customers are lonely and mentally ill men. That would mean you're the one invading the hobby catered to them. Who are you anyway to reshape their coping mechanism? A new gen messiah?

ina schizos are an amazing breed
probably the most inoffensive vtuber out there and they're still throwing up mad seethe /here/ day in and day out

>>61352046
>inoffensive
That's the problem. I prefer borderline schizos like Kronii that I can have an unstable GFE relationship with, experience heartbreak, and then have us kiss and make up after about a month or so of arguing and ignoring each other.

>>61307136
>subjective opinion
>bad faith interpretation

>subjective opinion
>bad faith interpretation

>subjective opinion
>bad faith interpretation

*clap clap* NEXT THREAD!

>>61344495
>She pushes the meme again and again and got tons of engagement from it and then decided she's above it
Management pushes the Ina back meme since it brings in the money and their are two separate forces making decisions on her channel. Hololive talents are corpo vtubers and that is different than indie vtubers so your standard for judging her is based on a false premise.

>>61351876
If they are as enjoyable as Vinny/Jerma/NL/Charlie/MrLlama, sure. But they aren't.

>>61356124
and you think the girls are entertaining without their female charms? Which part then? Explain to me like Im a kid.

>>61349929
They're just fine.

>>61307136
unironically mucho texto. this thread is now set to hidden.