/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60788821
>thinking that bouncing all around is peak rigging
I bet you watch anime on 60fps

>>60789394
How about you try again without the strawman, retard. If more expressive model warping is "bouncing around" then I fucking love it when they "bounce around".

I bet you think Gura's model is great.

>>60788821
pink gatita is so cute

>>60788821
"wowie zowie, the model can turn their fucking head, it surely makes up for them being shit!"

>>60789394
surely moving like a scarecrow is much better isn't it mr corpo bootlicker, kek.

>>60788821
which corpos don't have that technology OP?

>>60789569
Pink Cat good, you just don't get it

>>60788821
You must know an artist who has trained themselves up and you must befriend them. Money does not create a good model.

>>60789480
>talks about strawman and uses a strawman
I heard that Gura's rigging is trash but since I don't watch her I don't know, but one thing I know, she's way more loved than those indies with 10k models, nobody cares about your bouncing boobs and a zillion expressions if you're twitch whore #791

>>60788821
Corpofags are exactly the same as the consumers of Apple products, if you show them what you can do with an Android, they start thinking why would they need that unnecessary shit, but the moment they get it in their Apple product, they immediately slurp it. When Hololive dropped the shit of being able to stick objects on their models despite the technology existing over fucking forever with VStudio, my point became clear.

>>60789761
thanks for the laugh newfriend

>>60789814
I don't care, her model is still shit and I don't watch her anyway (not that she even streams anymore lmao).

>>60789830
The difference is that Apple has the same or worse product as Android yet they think it's better, meanwhile hololive is head and shoulders above others(unless you don't mind woke western stuff)

>>60789761
That is, uh, not true at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCa6jWB5pPk

>>60789892
I said I don't watch her, retard, I don't watch any EN, I don't care about your 100k model, a whore is a whore, have fun, cuck

>>60790101
Since when was being in a monogamous relationship being a "whore"? Are you just an incel who hates any woman who fucks anyone but you?

>>60789569
>but muh vtuber is still better
excuses excuses corpofag

>>60790220
nta but pink cat is a whore, how new are you?

>>60790036
Nah it's the same, people that like Apple like that it's limited and it's easy to grab and config, not have a lot of variety on it, kinda like Hololive with games and events, doesn't discredit people like it. Any other shit is Android, for every good phone you will find, you are going to end up finding a shitty ass Samsung A20

>>60789892
least incel chumbud

>>60790580
Again, you're gonna have to somehow justify how the word whore can possibly be applied here

>>60790580
true any woman who doesnt wear a burka as Allah intended is a whore

>>60790459
Don't really care, bragging about a vtuber head being able to TURN is actually sad. But congrats, Nyanners can do that.

>>60790799
If it's so trivial, why can't your models fucking do it properly, corpofag? Surely it should be easy to implement...

>>60788821
Pink cat good.
Also I dunno. Makes me feel bit bad too. I'm pretty sure the talents would appreciate it. I feel like they should be supporting their money makers first, before pumping a shit ton of cash in other projects.

>>60790579
I'm a holofag and hate applefags, apple thinks they're unique but any random android has better specs, meanwhile no other corpo could imitate holo, only a few indies can but they lack the environment that's one of hololive strongest points

>>60790799
Whats sad is that indies with a quarter of the income and viewers can have far better technology and artists. Keep coping corpo bootlicker.

>>60790876
Holy shit, Vshoujo can go to space with their models yet their audience is like 5% of hololive
People don't care about that, that's it

>>60791046
Then their standards are shit. But that's not a surprise, they're corpos, their opinions are shit by definition.

>>60791046
>VShoujo
?

>>60790902
>apple thinks they're unique
>unlike holo, who totally is unique
amazing

>>60791046
I dunno I would be upset if half of my oshis money was siphoned away and she looked like shit but I'm not a corpofag so maybe you think differently. Grats on the numbers though.

>>60791217
Say one group that's like hololive then, apple I can say 10 phones who are better or equal

>>60788821
Because they do it all themselves, they have to use their own software instead of vtubestudio because of japanese autism, and they have an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality when it comes to the quality of the rigging because of japanese autism and because they're for-profit companies that prefer to cut costs

>>60791176
>standards
>whore house
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I didn't notice I was talking with a mentally handicapped cuck, bye bye

>>60791469
eslchama...

I tried watching hololive but the models and rigging remind me of queen bee

>>60791428
Finally someone with some sense, I hate niggas that just slurp their jp corpo bullshit, and act like it’s fine. We all know their mentality is, and sadly it does looks lacking compared with what modern models can do for them.

>>60791370
Idol
Kawaii
Nijisanji
all are similar to Hololive and arguably better

>>60791616
same, I watched ina because her model is really cute, but then she moves like a fucking stick, wtf?

>>60788821
we have this thread about once a month, it really just comes down to Holos(and I think Nijis) use propietary programs instead of vtube studio

>>60792331
why dont their viewers pressure them to get good quality rigging? too busy being yesmen?

>>60789394
i saw this persons l2d and model and honestly, i agree with OP. Corpo L2D's are just lightyears behind now. It's embarrassing

>>60790902
>meanwhile no other corpo could imitate holo
you don't watch any other corpo, holodrone

>>60792387
geriatric japanese businessman knows best

>>60792430
holy fuck who the hell is that

>>60789394
>>60789569
>Holodrones immediately seething when being called out their shit corpo has cheap dogshit production values
You're soulless NPCs, you're the same as Nintentoddlers when they are called out for eating trash graphics from the PS2 era.

>>60792594
>NPC
Go back to Instagram

>>60792387
well yeah no viewer will go ahead and say "hey, my beloved oshi I think your rigging sucks ass, it would benefit from a touch up rig-wise"
But also keep in mind their bosses are japanese IP-protecting zealots that would rather make a program with shit tracking and janky rigging instead of resorting to the mainstream easy and very good alternative

>>60792594
>>60792718(me)
How the fuck it's seething when whores spend thousands upon thousands into models yet they don't have 1% of hololive success? Do you know what seething is? Hololive just do it's own thing and you guys piss yourselves, their fans like it, their chuubas like it, nobody asked or care about your opinion

>>60792430
too bad about the actual stream content

>>60792880
>when whores spend thousands upon thousands into models yet they don't have 1% of hololive success
another holodrone that doesn't watch anything outside the corp saying shit as if he did

>>60792880
>their fans like it
Nice try. Everyone knows how hard you guys seethed at Gura's shit rigger, you can't memoryhole something that you spewed all over the catalog for a month straight.

>>60792986
>stating a fact is bad
Holy troon, if you don't like reality kys

>>60793154
>popular = good
applefag detected. bet you drink starbucks everyday too.

>>60793295
Never drinked from Starbucks and I never owned an IPhone but keep coping, it won't change facts, they're a fact because of that

>>60793359
so you're poor. got it.

>>60792538
BuffPup

>>60793154
big indies probably earn as much as any hololive girl if not more (if that is your measure of success), they also invest into high quality models and you know, stream, unlike hololive EN's super star

>>60793431
>Starbucks and IPhone are proofs of money
Are you retarded?
Richfags drink coffee imported from Columbia and their wife or housemaid make it for them, not some weak coffee filled with milk(aka Starbucks)

>>60793678
>Gura is the only hololive member
I watch hololive for 4 years and I never watched her, I don't know why you vcucks and indiefags think she's that important

>>60793678
actually success is when you have 50000 broke foreigners watch you on their $20 prepaid android phones they got from 7-11. making money doesn't matter.

>>60793678
>>60793878
Holy delusional, Roboco can buy a house on Tokyo and she's one of the smallest holos, Tokyo is more expensive than New York when it comes to housing, do you know how many indies can buy a house on New York without batting an eye?

Ninjisanji has the worst Vtuber models among their members. Everyone looks like a paper puppet cutout on a stick.

>>60794137
like half of japan lives in tokyo it's not that expensive but go on

>>60794137
>implying big indies haven't bought a house with their money
ogey
>Tokyo is more expensive than New York when it comes to housing,
you can google a list of the 10 most expensive cities housing wise and you'd realize how hard you're running defense for hololive but, again, ogey

>>60794249
>lots of people make the land cheaper
New York has more than 20 millions of people too, it doesn't change the fact it's one of the most expensive places in the world

>>60794451
Again, Roboco is one of the smallest holos and she did it lightly, indies when they buy something like that they talk a lot and how it's their dream or whatever, but sure, go on with your mathematically impossible theory that indies earn as much as holos

>>60794593
my dude i don't think you have any idea how big tokyo is. there are poor suburbs full of broke ass people that are technically still tokyo. it's like bragging about buying a house in california because malibu is there when most of the state is renecks in bumfuck nowhere.

>>60794742
When she did a geoguesser stream she almost panicked because she said that's near her house but she thought it's another place, for her to confuse a popular place on Tokyo with near her house you can bet she lives on a good place

Thread is about indie rigging vs corpo rigging , sisters immediately talk about Hololive , seething and rent free

>>60795438
I thought Hololive was the best?
Is that not the case then?

>>60789394
>natural, smooth movement looks like "bouncing around" to corpo cardboard enthusiasts

>>60788821
Side turned. Very nice.
Now check this out:
https://youtu.be/cg1S90qeUUQ

>>60795438
I mean when comparing quality of course we have to mention the queen bee of the vtubing industry

>>60795438
>holoboard
>except when it isnt

>>60789830
That was so fucking bizarre to watch
>Hololive talents have entire celebration streams for the ability to pin items onto their model, fans lose their minds
>VTubeStudio introduced Live2D items like a week before

>>60796408
elite png pilot moment

>>60792967

>>60791788
>Nijisanji
>arguably better
Anon at this point they're lucky WACTOR and AkioAIR exist(ed) to lower the floor

>>60796776
A week? Was closer to a year.

>>60792880
Kill yourself shit rigger coper. Buy overpriced merch so you don't get streams or good models to look at.

>>60797091
Look at her go

>>60797091
The rigging prob cost more than the entire hololive en model budget

>>60792430
Reminder that VBridger is over a year old
https://twitter.com/baovtuber/status/1695503391483744358

When you really pay attention to a Holo or Niji model's face tracking, it's just embarrassing.
Half the time the mouths are just one mesh being stretched open and close, and the eyes jitter and rapidly open/close. Looks like fucking FaceRig sometimes.

>>60799605
No not item pinning, Live2D items

>>60796472
>>60796664
Hololive has great agency and gave the talents huge amount of money and opportunity, but you'd be deluded if you think their models and rigs aren't behind by at least two years gap
Like every single shit a JP corpo do, everything is always stalled by bureaucracy, and when it comes to models, copyright issues are always involved.
Niji isn't different in this regard.

>87 posts 26 Ips

>>60788821
western indies can spend 10,000 usd on model but still have a worse personality than a crack whore on the street

>>60791469
>cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore cuck whore reeeeeeeeeeeee
Most self-aware GFEtard

>>60800013
That's giving them too much credit, compare tracking like Snuffy's or Alana's to Subaru's, and you see it's even worse than what you said.
Subaru's barely even moves, half the time, and a lot of the girls models are equally bad.
Honestly I blame the girls. If streaming is your job, and you're making a ton of money, you should have some absurd 64 gig RAM, with some 7900/4090 tier GPU in it, and the absolute best tracking money can buy. Don't try to convince me these girls couldn't afford the 10k needed for what I'm talking about, when they make triple that every other week

Say what you will about the kind of content, like how people argue over a chuuba should be doing gfe, who she should collab with, what games you play, etc. Every single vtuber fan would have a better experience if the chuuba their watching's face tracking was top notch

>>60801270
>Don't try to convince me these girls couldn't afford the 10k needed for what I'm talking about, when they make triple that every other week
I think most of them, at this point, have suitable PCs. That's not really the problem, having a high-powered PC isn't going to make Cover's proprietary software read Apple's ARKit better, and it's not gonna fix the rigging on their models.

>>60788821
nyanner was from vshojo, what you expect?

>>60801883
VShojo ain't footing the bill for the girls' models
Even then, there are so many indies out there with slick model rigging leaps and bounds ahead of Holo's, I wish Holo fans would make some noise and demand better

>>60802699
>no mention of holo anywhere
>but hololive!
rent free.
i don't think they need new models when they can already make you seethe this much without it.

>>60802699
It's not even big indies, either
This one only has 24K followers
https://www.twitch.tv/oliviamonroe/clip/RenownedRespectfulJaguarPMSTwin-UjA8jtti00d9RsoY
And here's one with 2K with a self-made model using a VRoid base, compare to corpo 3Ds
https://www.twitch.tv/raelrotten/clip/CrowdedEvilBearANELE-MDst4e37NjgFEo50

>>60802970
People bring up Holo because they're on the top of the industry and by all rights should be exemplifying the razor's edge of vtubing technology.

But they aren't. They're literally years behind.

>>60799892
Yeah, but holoen are women so they still win.