/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

She said the rat race was too tiring for her in her debut stream and had nods to both Ethyria and Pomu so it was probably Niji management sucking, as usual

...do vtubers have to spontaneously graduate out of nowhere to part amicably?

>>60701395
the whore betrayed us, niji will stay thriving beyond her lacking is

>amicable exit
>premeditated
those two things can coexist, anon

want to graduate > still want to stream > plan to be indie > might as well join vshojo

>>60701395
>premeditated
for the crime of graduation in the first degree, nina kosaka has been sentenced to life in vshojo

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>>60701572
shitty falseflag

>>60701395
Buy a dictionary.

>>60701579
Kson lite

>>60701634
idk man. the level of delusion really sells

>>60701395
It sounds like a work culture sort of thing. Sayu also implies the livers were very insecure about themselves behind the scenes. According to her, Nina didn't feel like anything without NijiEN backing her up at the time, which was around in January-February 2023. I'm guessing something must've changed around that time that made her reconsider. Nina said she was also dealing with burnout too. Maybe the AR disaster made her confide in Mousey about graduating and her insecurities, and Mousey said she'd put in a good word to Vshojo for her if she ever considers joining.

>>60701744
it reads like your standard esl comment from the numbers thread so it's most likely one of them

>>60701773

>>60701395
>premeditated
This word doesn't mean what you think it means.

Even if they made up by the end, it’s doubtful that Nina wanted to stay there any longer. She had tons of antis, some of which were sisters that were previously fans. Then add to the issues of game permissions, not being able to sing well at the time, NijiEN’s morale falling apart with drama and poor management, and the stress of being part of a publicly traded company.
The only thing I hope for is that Nina can try saving Pomu, Rosemi or Selen from that dumpster fire of a corpo.

>>60701395
She kind of said it indirectly during the new debut. Her reasoning for leaving and now choosing to work with different people.
also said before, but wrong selection of words. If you're unsure google it

>>60702033
preejaculated?

>>60701395
>but Mousey seemed to imply it was premeditated
She did not.

>>60701631
Wow I'd honestly be pissed about that

>>60701506
so basically she's just lazy

>>60705435
No, Niji is legitimately a shit company.

Someone post that nijicord leak screencap of Nina worrying because one of her tweets didn't reach the engagement quota.

>>60705734
>engagement quote
Now now, you need to make up more believable rrats because no fucking way this is real

>>60705734
ask and you shall recieve

>>60705734
>>60706054

>>60706173
>>60706191
No way, no fucking way. Oh my god my sides are dying I can't believe what I'm seeing kek

>>60706191
lol

>>60701395
>seemed to imply it was premeditated.
When I left my last job it was premeditated, as I had a new job. It doesn't mean I hate everyone at the old place.

>>60701395
>Basically acting as human resources
>she outright said at debut she wanted to be comfy but management was clearly numbers driven
>general burnout

>>60706173
>>60706191
A similar incident happened with Yugo too, so its not an isolated event. I understand Anycolor is a business, but they prioritize the needs of their shareholders to a fault. Its no wonder why the talents just seem so miserable there that it leaks into the streams.

>>60706173
>>60705734
>engagement quota
lol
lmao

>>60701395
Given the things we heard her saying the most logical conclusion is:
>She got burned out by blackshit corpo, bad fuckin colleagues and intense stress.
>She quit, went on a long fuckin break/vacation.
>She was about to fuck off into the sunset forever but friends asked her not to quit vtubing. Literally mentions Giri.
>She was open to coming back.
Giri is just one of them but has connections to VShojo. Kson, Henya/Pika, Melody, you name it they have all been acquaintance with Giri before.
>VShojo makes an offer, it is fuckin good.
>Nina agrees to come back.
It is also very likely that she had other offers for other things too. Streamers quitting streaming usually end up in some management role.
Either VShojos offer was really good and better than the others or she just stuck to what she knows but this time for better conditions.

Side note, Nijisanji never lets Onigiri ever collab with any nijiliver ever again kek.
It is btw retardo to assume that vtubers don't just talk to each other behind everyones back including the company. You seen the nijileaks, what we see on screen is only half the shit going on.
Mysta too was about to leave vtubing or atleast become indie. Ironlung helps him out with his taxes and they start talking about why not VShojo instead.

Only american retards think poaching is bad or whatever when in reality the end result is your Oshi gets a decent contract.

>>60701630
In the vtuber justice system, corpo switches are considered especially heinous. In /vt/, the armchair detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Special Ed Unit. These are their stories.

>>60701572
Please seethe harder is so fucking funny

>>60706173
>>60706191
SEA dishonesty at it again when the staff member literally tells Nina that it's her decision

>>60701572
>niji
>thriving
heh, shit bait, but I needed the laugh.

>>60706920
When Nina announced her graduation I immediately doubted she would be gone forever. She is someone who absolutely thrives off of social interaction and streaming is just too good of a source of it for her to ignore.

>>60708021
well, jp is thriving

>>60707656
maybe you should watch the roach debut before you say that. pay attention to the "hollywood" sections.

>>60706732
it was a sponsored stream. Unless you're okay failing it like ina?

>>60702069
One by one, they all shall be saved

>>60706732
>>60705734
>>60706173
this was literally a sponsorship stream so I dont know why any of you is susprised about that. of course these kind of talks go, those things need to be organized and talked

>>60710708
>Hololive pays a small bonus to non-sponsored talents to promote other holos sponsorships
>meanwhile Nina asks for advice because her sponsored tweets aren't getting any traction and essentially gets told by management to figure it out on her own
Grim...

>>60707068
kek

>>60701395
More money, less competition (no endless debut waves) no feeling of having to stream constantly or be forgotten and ignored.

>>60701395
>but Mousey seemed to imply it was premeditated
Because she was literally poached

>>60706173
What a slave driver
>idk we don't really care do what you want

>>60712003
>NijiEN staff;"what do I look like, your fucking manager or something"

>>60707656
Why the fuck is she handing management half of her paycheck when their senior expert advice is 'figure it out lmao'

>>60701395
who

>>60701631
Never understood why they couldn't keep it. Hell at this point i'm sure Nijisanji makes them pay for their own Merch as well.

>>60718436
So that they could hang them in the office to wow visitors and potential investors, just like how music labels hang their gold records all over their offices to essentially tell musicians visiting to discuss a dealt "look at how much money you could be making with us"

>>60711826
Fuckin holos! I bet they also get paid vacation, singing and dancing lessons.
A HR that watches out for the health of their talents.
Spoiled brats

>>60707656
But why she should care? there's a precedent for it
also this tower of fantasy sponsor was the most obnoxious shit and I played the game at the time
literally almost everysingle active nijiEN member had to stream it

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>>60701631
The funniest thing is that you can get multiple ones if you pay like 100 bucks but they didn't bother to get them for the talents.

>>60718761
You can literally order an extra one exactly for those purposes. It's what Cover does. Niji is just too cheap to do it.

>>60729717
Gotta keep those operating costs down. Their financials is literally the only thing they can even somewhat hold over Hololive

>>60701395
She's a filthy backstabber just like Mysta and Zaion. She will not be missed.

>>60706920
Poaching other company's talents when they were the ones that went through the long arduous process of scouting and auditioning is literally WCW behavior. And look what happened to WCW. It died because it was a retirement home for aging has-beens like Hogan and Savage whose golden years were in the days of the original 8-bit Nintendo and the Cold War.
>but WWF poached from the territories
It's not poaching if you're taking indie no-names and turning them into idols. Vshojo is taking established idols and turning them into Twitch react streamers. Which, by the way, is cringe.

>>60706920
>She was about to fuck off into the sunset forever
She was never going to stop being a content creator because its free fucking money for 0 effort and she already had a certain degree of an established fanbase and relationships with popular, influential people. The only real question was whether she'd go back to her pre niji days and drop vtubing, join vshojo, or vtuber indie.

>>60701395
It can be both, anon. Have you never had a farewell party for a co-worker who was moving to a new (better-paid) job?
Silly question. You're unemployed.

>>60730849
vshitshow is the TNA of vtubing, give it time and it will dig its own grave and be absolutely irrelevant

>>60707068

>>60730486
They could've charged the talents for that

>>60701395
Nijisanji was just a shitty company to work for. Every escapee has implied or outright said it.

>>60730849
>And look what happened to WCW. It died because
after the Turner-WarnerBros merger the incoming Warner CEO no longer wanted to manage the increasingly complex and management-heavy wrestling show, and then strangely decided to stop broadcasting the highest rated show on his network entirely instead of taking an offer on the table to sell it to its showrunners as an independent production company and continue to rack in advertising profits while exporting the costs to them, because he, quote, "would not be favorable enough to get the "right" advertisers to buy airtime"

>>60734463
warner bros has never made a smart decision in its lifetime, if warner makes a corpo jump ship

>>60701631
God, this is so petty. Just give the talent their dumb $50 plaque, they already made you thousands.

>>60734723
Anycolor doesnt intend on giving them their plaques because its probably a deliberate and retarded power play. They think it's not their reward, that plaque is company property since Anycolor made them famous, not the other way around in the case of Lazulight and some of Obsydia, or even Luxiem arguably. Therefore the talents need to prostrate themselves and accept their shitty 2% merch cuts, and not even think about leaving or else Anycolor will sic their fanbasse on them.

>>60706191
wow im going to see how my boss reacts next time im late to a meeting and telling him i was making tea

>>60707068
KEKSIMUS MAXIMUS

>>60707068
good shit

>>60701395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If0TxnnrWko

Matara not used to working with good management says a lot

>>60701395
Ironlung is a succubus. She is the reason why any of this shit happens. so fuck her. she puts on the worst poker face.

>>60701395
She has a clip going around about how surprised she is of vshojo management being helpful, so Kurosanji really did fail her.

>>60735172
>its probably a deliberate and retarded power play.
Probably something like that, since they can just as easily ask YouTube for a duplicate for a pittance but they dont.

>>60701631
Ok fuck that, anyone who actually keeps working for Niji with that deal is a cuck. Or cuckquean. Have some self respect

>>60735172
and that tactic works, lotta nijiEN members think the will never mantain any success if they leave
the manipulation runs deep

>>60735620
Get a better job

>>60736577
Mouse wouldn't be able to poach talent if the management at their old jobs wasn't shit.

>>60736625
already posted, see
>>60736368

>>60711826
what management? are you not able to read? it literally says staff in paul li name

>>60735620
Looks like a spontaneous meeting, WFH is like that.

>>60736914

And Vshojo showing that aint true might be the worst outcome for kurosanji, especially if Nina/Kuro incline in viewers. Which for Nina seems pretty likely.

>>60738934
Do people even give a shit about them?

>>60738934
what worst outcome? if NijiEn dies, anycolor will survive easily. They were already the biggest before njien existed.

>>60735172
Which is the reality for everyone but the members who debuted in 2018. At the very least the 100k plaque is from the brand. 1 million i give you, but 100k those vtubers get just by existing if you arent in kr/id

>>60701395
please save pomu

>>60706920
>bad fuckin colleagues
Considering she visited Pomu, Enna, Millie, Reimu and a bunch of other members after she graduated I doubt that was a reason.

>>60701395
Of course it was premeditated. What the fuck do you think that word means?

>>60701773
>burnout too
I don't want to pat my own back but as a first year trauma resident who works his ass the seven days of the week, tolerates the most pretentious fuckers in the higher hierarchy, how fragile must one be to get burned out from playing games and talking on stream, also other miscellaneous stuff like meetings, thumbnails, scheadules and covers of course but really, streming has to be the easiest job in the world.

>>60701395
>I thought she parted with them amicably
Did you read the graduation statement?

>>60701572
>niji
>thriving
Now that's a fuckin chuckle worthy joke

>>60749443
Don't blame others for your misfortune.

>>60749443
Sounds like you hardly work bro. Why don’t you get a real job.

>>60706173
So this is why Nijiens are always posting cringe ass tweets. I wonder if tempiss has some engagement quota because they do the same fucking shit

>>60707068
Got me to laugh thankyou

im glad she landed okay but how do you go from the best design in the business to the weird pink cockroach thing

>>60710689
Save Pomu...please

>>60701506
based

Japanese work culture sucks.

>>60707068
kek <-- this one
kek
kek

>>60755485
>best design
Are you blind?

>>60701631
why is nijisanji like this?

>>60707068

>>60749443
You fuckin do it then if you're so goddamn smart

>>60759072
nice to know shitposters have no aesthetic sense at all

>>60701395
Because japanese corpos are obviously very different from western corpos aka TRUE freedom