/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60610145
Sayu burning bridges speed run, any %, no name drop difficulty set to no more than 3 direct names

>>60610145
A psycho bitch is still a psycho bitch is still a psycho bitch...

>>60610145
What did she say originally?

>>60610145
/vt/ is gonna make her kill herself at this rate.

there wasn't much ambiguity in her statement in feeling like her work was on the back burner because she wasn't famous enough. looks like she'll be walking back a lot of her statements from that vent

>>60610145
Post the original clip so we can judge it ourself.
It's not that bad right?

>>60610145
She's such a trainwrech wew.

>>60610360
https://www.twitch.tv/sayu/v/1950224253?sr=a&t=135980s
watch her meltdown from the start

>/vt/'s useful idiot martyr is also a giant menhera
whoa...

>>60610498
If she was a religion, she'd be Luciferianism. No one actually believes in it, but they'll say they do just to piss other people off

>>60610443
>WAAA I’M SO UNPOPULAR WAAA I GET HATE BECAUSE IM UNPOPULAR WAAA
>NO ONE LIKES ME WAAA
grow a backbone

>>60610319
Her model is delayed because the artist she hired lets other people pay extra to get priority so she's waiting because she's broke which makes her feel like the artist isn't that excited about working with her which is one of the fun parts about being a chuuba.

>>60611124
This is what happens when they grow an ego disproportionate to their actual numbers.

>>60610145
Oh my god this fucking bitch is she still reading her threads. I'm the one who called her out on this. GET THE FUCK OFF 4CHAN YOU HAG

>>60610145
She is going full menhera now.

>>60611332
You should breed the hags

>>60612071
No I'm just. So fucking embarrassed that my complaining got read by her and she was dumb enough to make a rant about it publicly. I want nothing to do with her

>>60610443
>38:06:30

>>60611448
She has always been

>>60612338
>38:06:24*

>>60612441
d-divorced?

>>60612338
Even if you won't believe Kotoka or Finana, the common overlapping statement from Ver, those 2, Hex, management, and even some others who spoke off-the-cuff about Sayu, it's that everyone tried to work with her and she just preferred testing the waters over and over again.
So good speech, but practice what you preach, Kotoka was willing to stand by her to stay with the group

>>60612535
yeah, me :(

Literally every single thread made about her in the past 24 hours has absolutely stunk of female posters.

>>60610145
Why dont you post this on the sister doxsite and tell them that

>>60610145
good but that was only one thing she said among other, like confirming a rumor that she was married

honestly unless she close her xitter account there is no saving her from her own stupidity

what you perceive as Bullying is just a human reaction to tell her stop hurting your career by doing these reckless things

>>60613464
what she needs is to stop coming /here/. She bought the 4chan definition from Pippa, which sounds great and all until literally ONE GUY can just decide to want to ruin her life, and they'll get the "true honesty" buff when they're no different than the average twitter freak.

>>60613464
>a rumor that she was married
Rumor? It was public knowledge.
She was married while being a vtuber, the divorce is recent.

>>60613464
>Xitter
lol

>>60610145
I don't really care I'm just here masturbating to her crying lel

I have a fetish for menhera breakdowns

Whether you're pro or anti Sayu, both sides can admit she fucked up, and continuing to post is just making it worse for her. right?

No wonder her ex husband divorced her. She sounds like a pain to be with.

Coming here is literally the worst fucking thing you can do as a vtuber if your skin isn't incredibly thick. The shitposting and rrats will eat you alive.

>>60614059
I think all sides can agree that Nijis are the biggest fuckups. Not defending her tho, but they are the biggest reason why this is happening.

>>60613267
yeah this seems really weird
like they are trying to deflect from vshojo stealing two members...
>>60613464
>rumor
how to say you were a post zaion dramafag

>>60610145
>you
don't know don't care, but op is a fag

>>60610145
I thought she better off without niji? Now she is at the lowest??

>>60614392
A victim of trauma (from nijiniggers) does not get better, in fact, they get worse. I suggest she seeks mental help.

>>60614140
Firing her is ultimately the best course of action they could take. She's a literal definition of a ticking time bomb, like all if not most menheras, she'll still fuck up the company even if she wasn't "dishonorably" fired like that. The niji recruitment staff really stepped on a landmine accepting her.

Classic Niji/exNiji vtuber who is only relevant when the discussion is about drama or something controversial! Make some entertaining content!

>>60610443
>Can't afford to ban people because viewer already too low(for her)
I kek

>>60614615
Firing all of Niji vtubers is the best action Nijiniggers could take. The company is a literal definition of a wolf in a sheep's clothing, like all if not most black companies, they will fuck up anyone and demonize them with their clique SJW mentality. The applicants really stepped on a landmine applying for them.

lol

>>60610145
This reminds me of those nekomata mel threads...

shes just in full menhera meltdown and spiraling, I can see how a shitshow corpo like Niji got tired of it, she just keeps making the biggest mountains of the smallest molehills

>>60614853
why the vtubers? This was EN management's fault

>>60615534
They deserve better than 2% lol

>>60614117
You can't leave and if you do, you'll be back eventually.

>>60610145
Budget Mike

>>60615105
She's frustrated at no growth as Sayu as well as delay of the model but # are getting to her. Lots of regret because she legit had 5x to10x CCV as Sayu and now she's a lower 3 view.
But she streams at PST gremlin and SEA hours. Stream earlier consistently and views will increase.

>>60615762
>CCV as Zaion*

>>60610443
oh so it's a nothingburger vent/rant and retards took it personally
>4chan > twitter
based, and with a non-schitzo take to back it up too. double based

>>60615762
I mean what did she expect? The twitch audience and the youtube audience are not the same, hell NijiCN fans and the rest of the youtube audience are not even the same...NijiCN fans probably have more in common with Twitchfags and she burned that bridge super hard

>>60615906
>>4chan > twitter
An anon dropped >>60561457 after /vt/ caught wind of her meltdown, which led to her making this response https://twitter.com/sayusyn/status/1713633533108142494

what happend to her did the nina news affected her?

Is this why even kson the queen of the saviorfags and poachers rejected her application?

It's current SEA hours. Do not take anything said in this thread seriously. Yes, I mean you.

normally, 4chong usually celebrate the underdog of any story for mere contrarianism points. /vt/ is the only board in this god-forsaken website with the biggest cocksuckers like holy shit. I even see posts from people who're genuinely celebrating Youtube's new adblock guidelines. It's most likely not fucking bait because the shitskins populating the board get their paycheck from these mega conglomerates. I fucking hate this place.

>>60616492
That's what happens when the foundation of this board wasn't a ragtag scrappy underdog group of vtubers, but literally the most popular and powerful vtuber corporation in the world.
And it's not even just this board. Look at how many people on /tv/ are unironic capeshit fags shilling streaming services, or how many unironic iToddlers there are on /g/ now.

>>60610145
>You can stop shitting on her for-
No.

Sayu is peeing

>>60610145
ZAION COME HOME!

>>60618015
RUMAO no corpo is going to touch her menhera ass now.

>>60616492
Yeah no. Every single one of them are cumwhores except my oshi. Get with it.

>>60614059
>pandering to 4channers
Never worked will never work, i get that she wanted to expose nijisanji because she felt that she was treated unfairly.
It's not the first time they have done it and not the worse case either but it's a mistake to try and pander to 4channers, at the end of the day drama gets you nowhere in this industry.

>>60610145
>everyone was a backstabber
classic schizo women moment

Didn't she Graduate? what is Rei Kirahara doing here in sayu chat

>>60616356
she's unironically mad that mysta and nina are so successful now while she's blacklisted from everything

>>60619413
If you actually watched a bit more you'll find out she was just mad about her chat being less of a hivemind than a corpo chat

>>60610234
>people surprised a menhera is being menhera

>>60615762
>But she streams at PST gremlin and SEA hours
this.
she seriously needs to stop streaming at fucking midnight like 80% of the time

>>60610145
what do you mean? Her Vtuber mama is a shithead who prioritizes based on money instead of when commission comes in. Of course, this hurts Sayu's feelings when she's stuck in limbo, her reputation got destroyed, and she still wants to keep an online career. So no, if anything, I've now become an anti to Yuniiho and hope she deserves hell. I hope you read this Yuniiho and understand that your actions have indirectly hurt people. May karmic retribution come at you in lots of pain.

By the way, to all of the shitheads in the vtuber industry who is strong-arming Sayu into this apology. I want you all to kill yourselves, seriously.

>>60610145
>fucking up relationships with people close to you and who helped you because you're a bitch
Niji classic
Once a niji, always a niji

>>60619301
Mel is here at all times. She never leaves.
She saw the sayu and zaion threads and hopped over, loves a bit of drama she does.
Anyway I want to breed say and marry her

>>60619680
This was a good take until you said anti the artist. Artists are all Buttfuck retarded drama queens but anti-ing is a bad look

>>60620735
Probably cause she knows if she gets in Sayu's good books, she'll be given a platform like DN and can spread more of her lies

>>60610145
>Yuniiho
please twitch streamers, hire different vtuber artists

>>60611448
fish, where the fuck are you, there is your next hire!

>>60610145
Genuinely explain to me how bringing up her formal marriage and IRL career because of a 4chan post was not the dumbest shit an indie has done to date. No matter whose side your on this was a huge fuckup and would be career ending if it was anyone else.

>>60610145
Menhera moment

>>60610145
Imagine reading /vt/ threads and taking the shitposts there seriously then writing an essay on twitter about it.

Literally JUST IMAGINE

>>60614059
Yeah, she pretty much admitted rumors that had no basis outside /here/ that will hurt her career, and is proving trolls how much control they can have over her. Hell, she's probably even reading this thread. Not a good look if another corpo was thinking about offering her a spot.

>>60622899
Still cooking

>>60613267
welcome to /vt/, where men who can't use English properly act like women

>>60625696
>Hell, she's probably even reading this thread.
Say cheese, you'll probably be in her next tweet. Hi Sayu!

>>60616619
holochads are not the problem
this place and /jp/ threads before were extremely comfy when all we had was hololive jp and a few niji jps were discussed
and yes this place is now a complete cesspool since EN chuubas and indie/small corpos

>>60610145
Sayu..just...stop talking...please. Drop the parrot faggot, drop nousagi, build back your community, and for the love of christ when you have a thought like that again just let it go.

marry me Sayu I'll fix you

>>60618015
Even before all this she would never join the corpo that can't stream Genshin.

>>60619301
What the fuck I didn't expect the next part of the Mel Nekomata saga to involve Sayu

ZAMN and just like that she doubled her ccv by shitting on nijinigs once again and feeding the dramawhores. It's just that easy.

>>60626503
Wait, is vshojo entirely banned from all chinese games? I thought it was just coco/kson alone?

>>60610145
Kek, this is why you don't want to take side in any drama whether it was 4chuds or xittertroons as none of them will never actually support you anyway.

dumb cunt

>>60626624
At most she‘ll get 50 new viewers for a week before they fuck off

useful idiot for holobronies to use. Hope the collab with depressed nousagi was worth it

Has she considered not hiring the same popular artist every other twitch fuck hires? Then perhaps she would get a model quicker.

>>60629654
Should have gotten an asanagi model instead

>>60610145
Radioactive menheras don't turn over a new leaf overnight. It takes a lot of work be a less toxic person.

>>60613464
>Rumor
She was literally married as Sayu and bragged about it all the time like 2 years ago. She quietly divorced when she applied to Niji with her status changing from married to unmarried

>>60613464
Honestly this. She needs to pull a Bao and get herself off twitter, leave social media to a friend or manager to handle, and only focus on streaming.

>>60615618
>They deserve better than 2% lol
Just for reference, they don't ask livers to invest in merch.
Cover does.
Every company has different system. I agree 2% is too low but definitely nowhere close to 50%

Damn I feel bad for her.
>Join corpo but chose the blackest one
>They sabotage her with their bad management
>Never even had a chance to grow
>"family members" backstab her the moment they get the chance
>Get doxxed and Niji nor her "family" even cared
>Had to put out a statement because if she didn't then everything would have gotten worse. The saying repeat a lie enough times and it becomes true comes to mind, especially if a big corpo says it.
>Pays for a project but the artist doesn't really care about it and even prioritizes projects from people who came after her
Everything just sucks and I completely understand her frustration. Artists are already the worst people you can do business with since they are so prone to illness, fatigue, mental stress, etc when they accept a commission.
Imagine paying for something that will take months to complete and they start it only for them to stop and work on another project because yours isn't a priority. It'll be really fucked up if the artist finishes other models before sayu's model.

>>60611124
>the artist she hired lets other people pay extra to get priority
>you could, theorically, pay full price and never ever get your model
her fault for not concidering this but also that's such a retarded business strategy

>>60610145
It's not just her, but the problem with all vtubers that paid their way into the hobby or industry. A true vtuber can only be one of two things. Either an employee that gives a voice to a model as part of a collaborative team effort. Otherwise they are a self-made vtuber that created their own model or at the very least drew their own design reference sheet. Everything else is always going to be rich kids paying their way to try and be popular, then blaming all of their short comings on other people they commissioned.

She appears to have the type of menhera that makes her impulsive and also having to overexplain everything because she feels misunderstood. And because she's so clumsy with her words and her perspective on what is appropriate in a public or private space is twisted, the more she explains the more land mines she steps on, only making things worse.

>>60630446
Anyone who defends the artist is just too far gone. Models already takes months to complete so people with money can just push everyone else down and the 6 month wait becomes a 1 year wait. Cutting in line for something that takes a short time to complete is acceptable but not for projects that take months to complete.
At least let this be a learning experience for Sayu.

Its like none of you have ever dealt with a BPD woman before

>>60631237
Do we have actual confirmation that the artist actually prioritizes people who pay for priority? For all we know she could be late on her payments or something

>>60630990
This is a good take and very well spoken

>>60631237
Anyone that complains about it not being fair is delusional. It's never fair. It's not fair that people with more money just pay for better and more custom things. Somehow having custom animations and a high quality model relates a sense of skill and creativity to the person that bought it. Objectively, everybody know that they're usually talentless hacks, but the quality of their assets is so good. Now the artists have a system that exploits these tendencies and people want to cry and complain that it isn't fair. They agreed to it by making the commission and not offering to pay double or triple to prioritize theirs over even basic life necessities.

>>60610443
One thing nobody has mentions is the part where she talks about how she feels like as a corpo she got respect but as indie she gets no respect. Like all her fans and hangers-on are constantly "bantering" her and putting her down. Calling her stinky in every interaction. The one thing she misses from corpo life is a sense of respect from fans. Now as an indie the people that get close to her are retards that think intimacy means being allowed to give her constant negging and bantering without thinking that saying nice things to her still matters in a friendship. And she's too socially retarded so she allows it to keep going until it sours the friendship because she's afraid of rocking the boat and souring the friendship.

I don't watch her but maybe she has a self-deprecating sense of humor and people follow along without thinking too deeply. Or maybe the people around her are autists and social retards themselves, or maybe they're just as opportunistic socially as she is.

>>60630430
2% isn't even real it's just some /#/ tranny rrat they made up based entirely off Mysta and Kuzuha saying they get a low percentage from merch, which is totally expected because of manufacturing costs and merch has low profit margins in general.

Her ex made the right choice to divorce her. She genuinely sounds like an unlikeable person and a pain to deal with irl.

>>60610145
>Traumadumping on chat
Big no-no, oomfie

>>60631895
she found out that the "friends" she made are just trying to coerce some niji dirt out of her. They don't give a fuck about her gacha addiction or genshin streams. She's always just been a platform for anti-niji drama content post termination

>>60631895
In general this is how fans are. Holo fans also talk about indies and small corpo like they're less than trash and would never be let into Hololive. Then when some of them do get in they act as if they stepped in from another dimension and were always at their heart perfect beings. Many of them have a complete denial about the fact that the future generations in Hololive are probably currently indies. This kind of double thought and negging attitude is pervasive among most fans.

>>60632328
Apparently it wasn't like that in her pre-niji indie days? I don't have the full history so can't say for sure.

>>60631394
>For all we know she could be late on her payments or something
What does she gain by lying if she is the one who is at fault? It'll get the artist to work on her model that she stopped paying for?
>>60631664
It has nothing to do with getting better things. It about having the commission you paid for get no attention way after you paid for it because someone else came along and dropped more money. Like I said, I hope it is something sayu can learn from because everyone knows how horrible artists are.
>Anyone that complains about it not being fair is delusional
Yes, life isn't fair but that doesn't mean people can't talk about it. Otherwise I hope you have never nor will ever complain about anything in your life.

>>60613267
Chinese women at that

>>60610145
I'm gonna take a shit on my carpet right now

>>60614059
Sayu played with fire
Nijisanji put it out with gasoline
Sayu is complaining about the medical bills
Both are idiots, one of them is outright malicious

>>60632458
It's a simple fact of life. If all you have going for you is your money then you better make sure your money screams louder than anyone else. The only way out is through contract, which requires a signed document with real names, and nobody does or wants that. You can cry that it's unfair, but that won't change anything. Without power or money you simply have to suck it up. Some can't pay for good models, some can't pay for priority queue on models. That's life.

>>60632447
She said the exact opposite, she wanted to join Niji because people actually respect corpos and she was tired of shitposters in her chat.

Reminds me when ASS used to get one guy'd back in /wvt/

>>60632819
Yes we get it. You're enlightened and are not affected by things that affect mortals. You go through life and no matter what happens you just say "that's life" and never complain about anything ever.
Unenlightened people aren't like you.

>>60610145
>Someone had told me
So, she literally felling for the rrat from this shithole and didn't even experience it herself?

>>60610145
Sayu Challenge: don’t be a bitch so you don’t have to make half-assed Twitter apologies

>>60633216
It isn't about enlightenment, it's about not being a whiny entitled kid. This is the bare minimum that can be asked from you or her, if you want to keep on arguing and saying how unfair it is, or that the artist is a bad person, then keep posting.

>>60630157
Imagine divorcing your husband to join Nijisanji where literally no one would have cared

>>60610443
>4chan is just brutally honest and always tells the truth
Christ, this woman has no hope.

>>60631954
>2% isn't real

>>60626087
this board literally exists because you holochads were shitting up /jp/ too much lmao

>>60630433
lmao liar

>>60630157
>>60633480
Pretty sure he cheated and she left him. Nothing to do with Niji.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1950224253?t=37h57m14s
>before leaving she told her niji friends they were worth so much more than they thought they were
>they thought that they were nothing outside of the corpo, Nina specifically quoted saying that

>sayu leaves corpo
>becomes nothing

I would laugh if it wasn't actually so genuinely tragic and sad

>>60633700
not an argument

>>60634026
>>becomes nothing
Imagine being a 1 view and a chuuba with avg 500 viewers says this. It's relative.

>>60631954
The shitty thing about "muh 2%" is that it's taken attention away from scummy companies that pay literally zero in profits on merch to their talents. Or companies like former Tsunderia who would force their talents to package and ship all their own merch by themselves, by hand.

>>60613464
You'd think someone so obsessed with what anons say /here/ would also be able to read the room and know its not a good idea to bring up previous relationships, even if it was something she did pre-niji.

The fact the only brought it up because of some rrat an anon made is ever more mind boggling, why are women so fucking stupid

>>60619301
DO NOT DONATE !!

>>60634026
>I just couldn't keep people around
>I just wasn't talented enough
The only part in her whole endless rant/tangent that has any glimpse of self-awareness. Many of these talents are completely replaceable and don't realize how much of it was because of their own talent until they leave and try to redebut.

>>60632328
>probably currently indies
what the fuck am I reading
100% of the talents in holo come from an "indie" background.

>>60634698
Then you agree. Calm yourself assperger.

>>60610443
>had momentum with redebut
>has collabed with kson, lopi and silvervale
>squandered it by "i want to play what makes me happy!
>then in the next breath creis "because of my bad content that kills my numbers, I'm not big enough to filter the audience I have"
>I HAVE NOTHING
I understand why the seething 2view hates her.
She takes it all for granted.
How many vtubers would KILL to know and collab with kson, punkalopi or silvervale?

>>60634002
>posts screencap full of made up shit
>calls someone else a liar

>>60635446
It’s funny how she thought she can take stream inconsistently and go to conventions and think her new fans will stay. They knew her for like 2-3 months as Zaion and barely streamed at the time, she should’ve streamed daily, now she’s facing the consequences

>>60635446
Corpo viewers never stay but it's also people coming to look because of the spectacle. Randon also have like 5k viewers and is not at around 100-200 regular viewers. Content by itself is cheap and low effort, you either have some kind of talent/skill or you're riding a popularity wave, but just doing content is nothing. I'm making content right now when I hit post.

>>60635636
>Randon also have like 5k viewers and is not at around 100-200 regular viewers
Randon also had like 5k viewers and is now at around 100-200 regular viewers

I need to get something to eat and drink some coffee.

>>60632458
>what does she have to gain by lying
Sympathy? Donations so she could "speed up" progress? Who knows I'm not menhera so

>>60615762
I honestly used to support her growth, but ever since she associated with scum of the earth dramafags like DN she is an absolute no go. She made this bed and she’s going to lie in it since I’m sure there are quite a few others like me.

>>60636012
Did she not know what he’s done? Or did she only know about the Niji stuff Nousagi has done and thought it’d earn her some brownie points? Kek

>>60611124
Yuniiho doesn't take money for priority commissions. She treats everyone the same, including Zentreya. She has said many times on stream that she doesn't accept extra money to skip the queue.

This girl is unironically mentally ill, I think we should stop harassing her

>>60610145
>You can stop
But I'm not going to.

>>60619413
>>60619461
Why is she like this? She's only been a corpo chuuba for at least 2 months and on top of that as anons here said, she was so confident shes made it, she didn't stream at all during her most important period after graduation

>>60636107
Assuming that she didn't know or didn't check is just infantalizing her. She knew, or if she legitimately doesn't know anything about VTuber fandom and drama then she would have checked and done due diligence.

>>60636012
Yeah what he did was unforgivable in my book. She easily could've been the target of something like that too during the height of her drama

>be 30+yo woman
>go to a concert together with a zoomer girl
>think you're friends now
>be surprised when zoomer girl shits on you
Did she really think she would be bffs with Finana with that age gap?

>>60636207
I don't think she is. It seems like it's just a case of a dumb person, like many dumb people. Normal people get emotional and do stupid and self-destructive things too. Mental illness gets thrown out as an excuse way too often, either to make someone look bad or to justify their actions. Sometimes it's just being a dumbass.

>>60636342
Here's my rrat:
If she streamed immediately after that malicious termination, nobody would watch her and she'd probably receive even more harassment than she was already getting.
I think her only move was to say nothing and prepare that document, which she did. She probably didn't have a backup plan like Kuro did since she barely just started at Niji. So while she was drafting her document, she also started reaching out to artists to get assets done. This would take a long while and with the pushbacks result in her getting that chibi model as a stopgap measure.

Kson will save her and btfo the nijichinks harassing her once and for all.

>>60636584
Mentally ill or not, people should stop harassing others. The age of the Internet has really killed off all decency in too many people

>>60636614
What she could have done instead is given herself a 1-2 month gap to travel and stuff and then planned out a grand comeback that would draw attention from old fans, and then go hard with daily streams to turn the rubberneckers into real fans. Instead she squandered all the redebut attention by fucking off to travel.

>>60636653
Indies have more clout than Kson nowadays kek how is she going to save Sayu?

>>60610443
Watched it for like 10 seconds and clicked off based on the tone of her voice. These women are delusional in the exact same way. I wonder why she thinks she has the anime avatar.

>>60636653
What was Zaion's relationship with Mysta and Nina like?

>>60636721
Agreed but the reason to stop harassment should not depend on something like diagnosis of mental illness. People think they're avengers or something and that someone acting like an idiot removes responsibility for their own actions. It's never okay to harass someone, but you can still criticize public speech someone decided to continue to distribute.

There was probably a timeline that, if Sayu had played her cards right and maneuvered correctly, she could have landed in vShojo right out of the gate.

She missed her moment and the ship has sailed on that. Maybe Phase or Idol would take her on?

>>60630430
Mangakas get 10% and they basically make the work

Corporate VTubers don't even own the design to their models or design anything for the most part, they just give feedback

>>60637057
I don't recall much public interactions. I don't know about Nina but Zaion and Mysta joked around some and are both fans of Genshin.

>>60637369
The only Vshojo I remember Sayu being close to was Silvervale and Silvervale disavowed Vshojo after she left

>>60635582
>made up
https://www.twitch.tv/sayu/v/1950224253?sr=a&t=135980s

>>60637369
You mean by not saying a lot of negative/controversial stuff and pandering to edgelords.

I hope her mama just refunds money and makes it so Sayu has to start the process all over again.

The amount of disrespect she showed her mama is next level. Sayu has no respect for anybody or anything.

>>60637545
And most just provide a silly voice to the character and tell stories or play games. They're undervalued because they contribute so little to the end result.

>>60610443
When will these dramaqueens realize that ranting about this shit in PUBLIC to your viewers is the issue.
>I want to rant and shit on everyone in public with no backlash!!
This is the shit you talk to your friends about in private. What a retard.

Sayu, I know you're reading this. You have to stop coming here. For your own sake. The "brutal honesty" is like 5% of the posts here these days, the rest is just schizo ramblings and falseflags. Most of the shit you keep tweeting in defense against was said by people who didn't even believe their own words.

first of all: who?

>>60615762
I wanted to watch her but she fucking refused to stream after termination, then had breaks with that trip to asia and other shit and when she finally announced the subathon it was a collab with DN. Oh and almost all of her streams are at impossible hours. I really wanted to support her but she made sure I won't be able to.

>>60615762
her fault for pandering to tribalfag monkeys even though admitted herself they don’t give a fuck about her

>>60638884
If this board wasn't so SEA infested, she might legitimately be able to get some good opinions here. But this board is far too gone with literal children from the third world waging their tribalwar.
This isn't just blind racism by the way Sayu. This is the truth of this board.

>>60631895
i watch 2views with the chats she thinks you can only get in corpos. if she policed them from day one this wouldn’t be an issue, but she admitted herself “she can’t afford to ban people because she’s too small”. you can’t save a numberfag.

>>60639279
She felt alone and only faggots /here/ showed her any support. She lost IRL friends and a chunk of her old regulars over the Niji smear job.

>>60639492
Unlikely. Most anons are morons with emotional issues on any board.

>>60640016
IRL friends abandoned her over Dee's Nuts jokes and shit? I could understand if she had been fired for going on a racist tirade or something, but I've never heard of someone losing friends for being a bad employee.

>>60610443
it's funny that i notice that her going on public to shit talk so many people and a corpo is the reason she'll die a 2view indie

>>60641017
She's probably poison to most vtubers who want to have any association with Niji
Yes it's surprising that anyone wants to associate with Niji, but it probably is a net positive for them in the rat race

>>60641340
Oh, so IRL "friends" who are also vtubers. That makes sense.

so anyway did she show her feets yet?

>>60636207
Completely normal people can crack under stress. I watched the stream clip from the timestamp here: >>60610443
There's nothing that suggest she's particularly mentally ill.
Being a celebrity - even a small one - is a lot of mental overhead and having to listen to bullshit from internet randos would crack most of us.
That said, if you want to succeed as a streamer (read: celebrity), you should learn to tune all of that out, and it's a thing not all everyone can do. I could never take on a job like that solely due to this reason (not being entertaining enough notwithstanding).

>>60632789
Medical bills?
Is she sick or something?

>/here/tubers
Keep falling for the grift
She loves hassan piker too

>>60636518
the thing about finana is that she is genuinely retarded. People are quick to point out some of the things she's done as malicious but the reality is that she has a tendency to do or say things without understanding how they'll be perceived or thinking about the consequences it'll have on herself and others. It's bad, definitely, but it's not malice on her part.
I genuinely believe that she did not understand what Zaion was going through. When she realized that the version of the story she got from her bipolar, emotionally unstable coworker didn't match up with the clean, corporate version she got from management, she thought she was lied to and decided to say she was "gaslit" without thinking about how it would affect perception of both herself and Zaion. I think her decision to say she was "gaslit" ultimately does feel like throwing Zaion under the bus, but I also think labeling Finana a backstabber is just as much of a tragic exaggeration as labeling Zaion a gaslighter was. The whole situation is just unfortunate and I hope things improve for Sayu

>>60642809
Girls are attracted to Hassan. I wouldn't look too deep into it.

>>60639492
99% of this board is ironic shitposting. But where else on the internet would you find the very real 1% of proper criticism that exists here? If you lurk long enough, you can tell the difference.

>>60642809
Lasan pecker? The guy who's scared shitless of Sam hyde?

>>60646565
The very same.

>>60639492
>>60638884
I know for a fact these are the same type of anons who relentlessly shit on any vtuber who just happens to be the catalogue's pick of the month, so what makes Sayu so special? In what universe is containment breaking this fucking blatant considered an ok thing? You think her fans that aren't /here/ want to see schizo rants on twitter over 4chan bait? Think anon

And before you hit me with the NIJISEETHE please refer to pic related for my oshi

>>60647366
>NIJISEETHE

>>60634187
>Or companies like former Tsunderia who would force their talents to package and ship all their own merch by themselves, by hand.
as opposed to what?
by anus?
i'd pay extra if my oshi packed her merch only using her asshole

>>60637057
Nina probably hates her guts if I'm being honest.

Can someone explain to me why Sayu admitted on Twitter to having sex with Depressed Nousagi?

>>60610145
>Someone had told me in the past blah blah blah
So, "Yuuniho prioritizes people who pay extra money to her" is just a rrat that she got from /here/?
Deserved if true.

>>60610443
>going on a rant about your viewers and imply only super popular streamers have fun with streaming
Yikes.

>>60648365
she thought it would get her the cuck audience. but cucks only watch NijiEN

>>60648365
Is the new meta for fucking vtubers to start a shitty drama channel? I can do that

>>60624837
But she's not married, she's confirmed single that's the point. Long since divorced

>>60648365
desperate for viewers so she got in bed with dramafags whose main agenda was to coerce some niji dirt out of her for content on their own channels

>>60613267
Seething femanons and jealous 1views are rife nowadays.

>>60646154
Parasocial fuck!

>>60649583
Yes shitposter-kun, this is actually a perfect example of Finana not understanding the meaning of what she says. You can partly blame vtuber culture for twisting the word "parasocial" into an unrecognizable buzzword, but it's still her responsibility to learn what things mean before she says them

>>60632328
Ah yes "Holo fans" the singular person who lives rent free in your head

>>60610145
who?

>>60635582
>made up shit
This is either Sayu directly speaking, or someone hoping to bed the little whore

>>60648365
She saw MariMari's 5 nights episode and wanted to try and 1 up her

it's funny seeing completely.un/vt/ like seethe posts
feels really personal instead of just generally mean spirited and mocking

>>60648365
Devil's advocate here, i don't believe that is what she actually meant...though she seems to speak before she thinks which only gets her more flak which in turn causes her to stumble more. Someone like that is better off stepping back and taking a breath to calm down before speaming again, though it seems she doesn't know that and allows herself to spiral with anxiety

>>60649583
He's not wrong, Finana does have noticeable issues where she's too slow to pick up on things.
It's the reason why she keeps getting manipulated by her SJW PL friends to say a bunch of dumb shit.

>>60648365
>/vt/ unironically thinks anything happening at night, regardless of distance, intent, or reasoning, is sexually related
Was her talk with him as part of her subathon

I hate that the replies to the tweet are just coddling her. That's the reason why she keeps fucking up, because her audience doesn't have the guts to tell her, in a respectful way, that's she's fucking stupid and keeps on ruining every single chance she has for the clout she so desperately wants.

>>60650812
Wouldn't matter, she wouldn't listen. She's incapable of admitting fault.

>>60651018
>anon learns about women

>>60651080
I mean Sayu is the most woman-moment streamer of all time

>>60612441
What's this thing with Nousagi? Did she fuck him? Lmao

>>60610145
That’s nice.

>>60612535
Yup, last year. It was especially bad since she had always been open about being married and has him in character as a a part of her stream as the “head shrine priest” which made it especially awkward when people noticed he was gone and started asking.

>>60650574
Well her previous manager was her husband and now she is divorced. Things have gone down hill for her in her life.

>>60612441
>Supporting the guy who info about several vtubers private incarnation as a side hustle on patreon
What the fuck, this is worse than anything else in the tweet, why would she defend that sack of shit?

>>60650812
The same people that rag on Kronii or Finana or Ame about saying shit and expecting them to know better, are also these people that watch Sayu say stupid and incriminating shit not once, not twice, but three times in a single 48 hour span and cheer her on.

>>60651775
Well senator, do you have a source for that claim?

>>60651206
see >>60650794

>my model feels like a job and not a priority
Who does she think she is? This is such a confusing comment does she think yunii is a friend? Does she think she gets priority because she’s a corpo failure? What has she don’t to think she should get priority?

>>60652233
>Why does Sayu say Sayu things
If this was someone like Mori or Selen saying it, they'd be torn to shreds in minutes, but because Sayu is the false-god statue or the antis, they'll let her backpedal up the hill

>>60636135
So Sayu lied then?

>>60652487
>Sayu lied
This is the default approach you need to have for all vtuber females, until they prove otherwise

>>60650794
>after he's been alone for so long
kek that phrasing

>>60634167
>says herself she’s nothing and it’s true
>n-no my queen you’re perfect I promise!

>>60610443
i don't even care about the artist and niji stuff, what really bothers me is how she treats her community. numbers are on the forefront of her mind at all times if she thinks that she can't afford to ban someone because she's too small. not only that, but the fact that she admitted to going corpo to get away from disrespectful chatters instead of tardwrangling from the beginning. she can have the corpo chat she wants if she just does that. i don't know how you can watch a vtuber she said the things she said.

>>60651837
I mean that’s her strategy why do you think she mentioned personal life stuff then mentioned nousagi at the end? Why do you think the yunii stuff is separate from that? She farming sympathy from morons.

retarded

>>60646154
if the fish never corrected herself and her retarded use of language and I suppose what passes for her as "thought", then fair bet it was 100% malice
the
>she just dumb!
defence doesn't hold up if, when confronted with a correction, she doubles down or ignores it like it never happened
so did she roll back or clarify? or did she let things lie as she threw them?

Her fans have given her thousands of dollars for this subathon and all she cares about is that the viewer number isn't high enough. The amount of support she's gotten from such a small community has been completely insane. Honestly gross. I don't care about the other shit, this is the final straw for me.

>>60654290
she's like a bratty 10 year-old

>>60654290
she very likely DOESN'T know her language was incorrect

>>60654494
How much did she make with the donothon anyway?

>>60647480
As opposed to paying the producer to prepackage merch.

>Pissing off a well known vtuber artist
Yea that's a big mistake, quickest way to get your ass blacklisted from all the big artists and riggers.

I am starting to think she is actually bad

Damn this bitch is nuts. Niji still seems like a mediocre work environment at most generous but I'm willing to admit she probably was too menhera for even them.

>>60657156
Even when Nijisanji is a black corpo, some things in her original doc always seemed dumb to me, like her refusing to use a new Genshin account and swallow her pride like a professional, or her saying she liked tweets shitting on Niji "by accident", but I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt as they probably were honest mistakes. But after this, is pretty obvious she's a menhera bitch, and smear campaign aside, part of her termination was probably due to her being an insufferable mess that couldn't keep her mouth shut.

>>60610145
Is she the same level as Kingyozaka Meiro?

>Commissions an artist that costs several thousands of dollars
>"i'm too poor to spend money to expedite the process like other people"
there are so many things wrong with this and her

Uuhhh
She already apologized you know

>>60657621
Being chummy with a doxxer and claiming doxxing people was just a mistake like he’s a 12 year old shows you everything you need to know about her. Mind you doxxing is the thing she cried about when it happened to her but apparently if it’s not her it’s a mistake.

>>60650812
Which is funny because she said she doesn't trust those people and comes here for the actual real opinion

>>60652233
You know what i can't understand? I don't understand how she had the money to go on a month long vacation to Japan, spend it all in stupid shit and then have the gall to come back and say "no,i can't pay for my model to come out earlier" and then "yeah you see, i have to pay my ex husband!". She sounds scammy as fuck

>>60659290
also in clip said she didn’t have money because of the lawsuit with nijisanji but still had the money to go on that trip? Did the lawsuit prices come up right when the model was being made? Did the lawsuit get paid before or after paying her husband?

>>60659290
Assuming she is indeed broke, she could have easily hired a less known artist with a decent skill level, but her constant attitude of believing she's some big celebrity blinds her and even worse, made her badmouth her mama because of baseless rumors.

>>60659290
she has an excuse for literally everything

>>60659290
>>60659838
Did it ever occur to anyone that she could've gotten help from her family
Like the trip could've been a family vacation and her parents could've spotted the lawyer fees
I think that's the missing info that makes everything make sense

>>60659290
This is how the money from the donothon will be used:
>5% living expenses
>5% gacha
>90% undisclosed expenses

Looks like doxxsitesisters have invaded this thread

>>60659290
>yeah you see, i have to pay my ex husband!
Imagine the donos her viewers send to her are used to pay her ex-husband. Imagine a vtuber announcing this publicly to her fans in response to a hot take from 4chan. She can't just let things slide.
Also she fosters the worst kind of audience because of that behavior. People stick around to see drama or her shitting on Niji. The fans she gained by joining a corpo left her after she shat to many times on her former employer and colleagues. She complained why no one cares about her content, what games she streams or her opinion on things. The only viewers left are saviourfags and obsessed Niji antis who only stick around for negativity and not because of her content.

>>60660376
But the doxxsisters said they're sorry so it's ok!

>>60652487
you should be asking when she didnt lie

>>60612441
Holy shit she’s a total psycho

This is so fucking attractive goddamn do I love my bitches crazy

>>60660376
Sayu likes doxxsisters whats the issue?

>>60660676
I’m genuinely confused did she say all of that about Yunii on stream just based on an assumption? Do we actually know the people who apparently paid to get priority on models?

>>60612441
>I wanted to give him one simple fun night after he's been alone for so long
Made it sound like a pity fuck.

>>60664319
you wouldn't be that far off considering DN's existence

>>60631954
>2% isn't even real
>they get a low percentage from merch, which is totally expected
Amazing how you menaged to contradict yourself in less than 20 words. And you're right, 2% was never actually said, what was said by the talents was 1 (ONE) percent, but the number 2 was already a meme by this point.

>>60659123
Oh come on Anon, we've all compiled videos of chuuba dox for sale behind a Patreon, haven't we? It happens to best of us...apparently.

did Sayu even last 1 pay period in Niji? LMFAO

>>60665883
less than 30 days, 22 or so, in those- around 11 or so streams

>>60632328
The BAU BAU twins are the perfect example of this, they had a single slow general going with 50-90ccv for a solid year and were met with resounding "who's?" and "Buy and Ad"s every time they got mentioned in other threads, now that they're in holo they're suddenly the greatest thing to ever happen to vtubing.

Too many holo Anons take pride in being close minded

>>60610443
God, what a shitty attitude. I spent like 30 minutes watching this and at no point did she say anything along the lines of "maybe I could have done something different" or "i just need to put my head down and work"

>>60664250
She named one on stream, Enviosity. She continued to say that see can see that shit because Yunii streams the process of making models

>>60664902
2% comes from false with a "trust me bro" as a source.
But nothing within the financials even remotely show that 2% is even possible as the gross profit for the company doesn't even come close to 50%.
Which people always point to nijisanji as the "big" merch seller which they manufacture its own merch since I think 2021 I think is when they bought its factory.
Plus I think we would see more turnover rate within JP if merch split was true unless this is only for EN.

>>60664250
She don't know shit, cause someone like Yuniiho wouldn't be spilling her backlist, remember that alot of vtubers keep secrecy on their new models/outfits to make a surprise
This bitch get sad and start making headcanons on why shit is not going the way she wants, also all of the shit sayu said on that stream literally stems from being unhappy with a viewer saying some shit UNRELATED to every drama topic she bought up

>>60632969
>Drops her 700~900 active community for "Muuh corpos get respected"
>Gets out in the most catastrophic way since Rushia
>Things never returned to the way it was before
A classic tale of WOMEN.

>>60641017
>>60641468
Most of the L.A. chuubas are still cool with her but there are people that do not associate with Sayu anymore. Look back at her old clips. The SJW types see her as toxic, basically Jap Pippa.

>>60636107
whos DN and what has that guy done?

>>60669325
Sold Myth doxx info

>>60669232
Sayu is nothing like Pippa.
People have issues with Pippa because of her politics/collateral damage.
People hate Sayu because she is a cunt. She literally talked shit on her mama currently designing her model last night. That is the kind of person Sayu is.

>>60630433
>Pays for a project but the artist doesn't really care about it and even prioritizes projects from people who came after her
Why you literally parroting a Sayu lie on a thread where the OP pic is literally Sayu's apology to that lie?

>>60657621
>or her saying she liked tweets shitting on Niji "by accident"
She didn't like tweets shitting on niji, she liked comments shitting on niji under her youtube vods. That's where I knew she was full of shit since she lied about not liking anti shit on social media by just naming the platform she didn't do it in and avoiding any mention of her youtube account.

>>60669325
Depressed Nousagi, seemingly a jaded Vtuber fan who deals in grabbing, making, and distributing doxx info or spinning new rrats for views/donos

>>60669474
>>60669732
so is this guy the first one that doxxed them, or does he continue to spread the info?

>>60634002
Nta but you piss me the fuck off.
I can't stand hypocrite liars

So watched most of this, Niji management was shit and the members are goaded into some bullshit by them. Not surprising, I'd have honestly watched her more but she's been offline/asleep every time I've checked and I don't care for genshin.

Sorry sayu, but you collabed with that disgusting SEA rat nousagi.

>>60669877
He apologized and stopped.
He was not the first.

>>60669475
Read her twitter post about it nigger.

>>60670535
the fuck is this argument, some elementary school black top fight?
Once is more than enough to never trust or associate

>>60670590
I did. She got given the business by her mama and had to issue an apology because she is a rat cunt who spits venom

>>60670631
It's not an argument you dumb nigger it's context. Never at any point do I condone his behaviour. Some anons were talking as if he STILL posts and talks about doxx info to this day which is false and misleading.

>>60670535
yeah now he just shits on the girls for views, sounds like a great collab partner for sayu

>>60670691
>My commission is sidelined because people that pay more get fast tracked and that makes me feel bad because it doesn't feel like my model is valued or makes them excited and it demotivates me
>Evil cunt spitting venom
In the words of our lord Terry You are the blackest retard gorilla nigger

>>60670816
He made an entire video recently on FuwaMoco's PL just to grab views, he is still doing it

>>60670691
t. actual venom spitting rat cunt

nyfcucks infesting this thread, go back

>>60670535
KYS Nutsagi gobbler

>>60659838
Didn't she deny being sued by kurosanji? Honestly, idk what's true or false with this bitch anymore.

>>60670535
Bau bau! Die a huwwible dweath, doxfian!

>>60670978
Except it was made up because that artist doesn't let people pay to cut the line.

>>60671701
You probably also think Nijisanji did nothing wrong

Here's how you can take some steps to make things better.

>Unironically "touch grass".
Seriously, get one or two IRL friends you can count on and trust. They can be your mental anchor.
>Stream earlier.
I understand being a degenerate hours streamer with a fucked up sleep schedule, but the quality of people who are available to watch you are important. Your fellow hag that's now a cockroach will be streaming long hours but she starts at 6pm EST. You should know by now that you want more east coast viewers, and it's hard for them to keep up with you when your average stream times are from 11pm-5am.
You don't even need to stop streaming hoyoverse shit, just be more accessible.
>Stop coming here.
I get it. Everyone is here. But this thread is proof that despite being brutally honest sometimes, most people here are shitposting for their own agendas. Pandering to this board does NOT work out. Pippa is a fluke. If you keep this up you'll end up like Mel Nekomata and if you don't know who she is, her story is summarized several times over in the archives.
>Stop talking about that. Patch things up.
Leave Z's story in the past and don't bring it up on stream anymore. It's been doing more harm than good recently. However, if you are still friendly with any talents in that place, keep up that friendship. If there's anyone you became estranged with, consider reaching out to them sometime next year. We're all getting older and you don't want to live your remaining years with unresolved regret.
>Look to the future.
It's not over. More opportunities will come, even if you're flying solo. People in entertainment have come back from far worse controversies. And this is again why you need close friends to lend you a shoulder during this time so you can work towards your future.

You've got too much talent and energy and passion to let it all end now.

>>60671881
Can we save her? I'm watching her cry women tears, is there any way we can save her or is it so over?

>>60672368
She's a woman of course we can save her

>>60671409
I'm starting to think "I worded this poorly" is Sayu's catch phrase

>>60668447
lol cope
your oshi can barely afford food

>>60671848
My brother in Christ, read the OP.

>>60668447
Mysta literally complained on stream about the tiny percentage he got from merch. I think he said 1%.
>>60669475
Zaion was naturally non politically correct which made her an instant outcast in NijiEN. Her outspokenness put a target on her back. The dog piling of drama channels was similar to Pippa. Both have a habit of containment breaking and normies lashing out.

Zaion was always based.
She's definitely got that DOG in her.

more like she got that usagi in her amirite

>>60672770
>>60673136
then tell how both hololive and Nijisanji have the same % of profits as each other after cost of sales.

also my oshi has a fucking 4090 with a 7950x3d with even less viewers than most of EN.

>>60671881
Sayu, this is great advice. If you can't leave /here/, then pretend we don't exist. You saw how kson reacted to you mentioning 4chan. Utter disgust, and that's how every big chuuba treats us because the audience you want doesn't like 4chan.

>>60673735
>You saw how kson reacted to you mentioning 4chan. Utter disgust
link?

Remember when you all were sucking her dick because she left niji and was a heckin based 4channer? What happened?

>>60654494
>final straw
Man I got permabanned off her members’ discord on week 2 after her Niji firing, when a tranny tried to virtue-test me and I refused to repeat his pronouns. Batshit that some of you guys lasted this long.

>>60651775
I’LL MARRY YOU SAYU

I HAVE NO JOB BUT I UNIRONICALLY HAVE A GIANT DONG AND I’M AN EXCELLENT COOK

YOU’LL NEVER BE ALONE AGAIN

WE’LL HAVE SO MANY HORRIFIC MEXICAN HAPA CHILDREN

>>60674493
Sorry but she's already with Depressed Nousagi >>60670275

>>60673828
Somewhere in this VOD. Still looking.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1947462740

>>60671881
Spot on advice, though I'm starting to think one of her major issues is trust or being too open with others. She's had far too many cases where her trust in someone's been betrayed and she's left paying the price. Her heart's bigger than her head, and I really hope her good intentions with DN isn't another retread of past mistakes.

>>60675337
>>60673828
found it
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1947462740?t=13h51m23s

>>60673828
>>60675337
>>60675753
It hurts to know that we're usually looked down upon in that way but it's not unwarranted I suppose

>>60677248
it's gonna hurt worse knowing theres been maybe 6-7 decently known vtuber girls that pandered directly to us, only to get spit on and dismissed by /vt/ for corpo girls

Why is kson like this. She's the one responsible for creation of /vt/. She's our mother basically. You can't just disown your children even if they are ugly and retarded

>>60678715
This board should have been aborted from birth then

>>60673735
Kson should remember where she came from and not be so conceited.

>>60678715
When Gook Moot refuses to enable tripcodes because of "blue board" mantra, and Meidos are clearly in a particular corpo or group pocket, you can very easily see why no one likes being here for long

>>60679300
>When Gook Moot refuses to enable tripcodes because of "blue board" mant -ack!

>>60678715
>She's the one responsible for creation of /vt/
huh?

>>60679571
>Nooooo! don't link me on an anonymous with all my shitposts!