/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60587377
Same thing happened when Yugo came back
Hex and Kyo were also made to unfollow Kuro (Kyo later followed Kuro as his RM)

Black company management is terrified please understand

reminder that holos had to congratulate kson on their rm accounts

>>60587377
CRIPPLE FIGHT

>>60587710
Miko has mentioned her but go off I guess

>>60587676
>>60587710
both are greedy, old fashioned corporate cunts, just niji is slightly worse

>>60587710
To be fair, there's also the whole thing with the Taiwan thingy

>>60587775
why didn't towa tweet at her if it's ok

>>60587710
What's wrong with that? Do you think Kson is allowed to do anything and the universe should bend to her wishes? "No cons" is a delusion here in the real world.

>>60587676
simply release the ar live colors concert and the horrors will end

>>60587377

>Shitpost OP that runs on a premise that is completely unverifiable by anyone here
>hololive mentioned not even 5 posts in
just abandon the thread now it was doomed from the start

I don't think management deleted anything but pomu herself, she has a story of doing tweets and then deleting them.
it would be way too fast for them to enter in contact with her, even more with this being 9am for them

>>60587710
shut up, niji bad

>>60588042
>What's wrong with that?
black company

>>60588346
Yes, Niji is a black company. It's an open secret not just here but also XXX formerly called twittard too.

>>60587951
Who the fuck cares about that chain smoker?

>>60588346
>you can continue leeching off the brand and people you abandoned while serving a rival corpo
The right thing to do now is for Anykara to blacklist VShojo.

>>60587377
QRD?

>>60588664
just not allowed to interact with ex-talents

>>60587710
>bring up holoshit out of nowhere
>livers not tweeting vs liver getting their tweet deleted
>congratulation tweets with name mention vs vague hinting
Any more whataboutism? Hololive stinks, but Niji is nuclear fallout at this point.

>>60588664
>new vshojo member is niji graduate
>vshojo story talks about member's backstory because lorefags i guess
>members story they lose their home or something and has niji allegories out the ass
>pomu catches on and subtweets about a comparison
there's your half-assed spoonfeed you faggot

niji really keeping a tight leash on them..

>>60587710
>niji being a black company
>"b-but look at holo too"
They not the one with 2% and as notnina said overwork to death.

>>60588529
We love Towa in this place.

>>60588811
But what was the Pomu reference?

>>60588935
>Raden smokes
>Forgotten

>>60588800
cover made ame un-like a tweet on souchou's debut if you want to get nitpicky

>>60588995
sorry kiddo you got your spoonful guess you're just gonna have to get more :v)

>>60587710
>bringing up roommate shit
fuck off faggot.

>>60588995
A couple times during debut Tara referenced "a hated rival" she and Pomu had a kayfabe rivalry pretty much the entire time she was at Niji who she talked to and actually gave her the idea of who to go to for her model design. At one point she called her rival a yappy chihuahua, Pomu made the tweet in the OP, and it was deleted a couple minutes later.

>>60588995
He's on the wrong track. It was after the lore segment when Matara was talking about a friend of hers and called her a chihuahua.

>>60589073
Ok I'm just going to assume she called her a bitch.

>>60587775
She had to pretend that she didn't know her after she literally wrote a book about her lol

>>60587377
They're going to drive all their talents into joining VS at this rate.

>>60587377
it's time pomu

>>60587710
Wait until Kiara speak about her in the future Yakuza stream

>>60587710
haachama and miko have literally brought up kson a few times

>>60589168
>>60589192
So it was all friendly banter? I was gonna call OP a faggot but to be fair he didn't imply there was bad blood between them, only Niji management being paranoid.

>>60587775
Not only that but that little moment in one of their SCVI streams in where she fought a custom character modeled as her still remains intact in the Vod.
And while we're at it, honorable mention to Pekora still mentioning Rushia here and there.

>>60588116
>a premise that is completely unverifiable by anyone here
Literally was from the debut thread talking about Matara.

>>60586850

NijiEN is pretty much acknowledged as a prison within the community now.

>>60589350
Realistically Pomu probably deleted it herself to avoid getting into any trouble over it. Didn't see the replies but I can almost guarantee they were referencing Nina as Tara and that was probably a bit closer to home than she intended. Someone could argue that being worried about repercussions makes it bad, but any JP corpo would have probably had something to say about it

https://youtu.be/lY240yb2PiI?si=YrqcOZuxjJYvQ7rW

>>60587710
>reminder that holos had to congratulate kson on their rm accounts
Hololive talents and Nijisanji livers can't interact with graduated talents is messed up but that doesn't change the recent scandal of Nijisanji management deleting Pomu's tweet.

>>60587377
Probably has more to do with Pomu's fear of managment than them actually saying something. It's not like management watches streams, and the managers aren't even usually around during these times.

>>60589490
>Realistically Pomu probably deleted it herself to avoid getting into any trouble over it.
the fact that this is something she has to worry about is damning enough

>>60589408
And Noel having a Rushia plushie in her background during her 3D live

>>60589040
She embraces it while Towa denies it.

>>60587377
was probably a self-delete (does still implying a poor atmosphere to motivate a self-delete)

>>60589283
i can't wait to see kiara say "wow look at this chick she's pretty" while pretending it's the first time she's seen her, it will be the most dystopian shit ever.

>>60589778
>>60589571

Did someone archive Matara's debut stream? I fell asleep while watching it (yeah I'm old) and wanted to see the rest

>>60587377
Enna’s most recent song that dropped was basically a farewell to Nina and not to mention their fucking anniversary merch also still had a hint on Nina on there. Pomu is just paranoid and should’ve kept it up because now fuckers like you are going to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

>>60589834
lol

>>60589939
She forgot to turn on auto-publish on Twitch, should be up soon. She also has a VODs channel on YouTube so it will be there too: https://www.youtube.com/@MataraKanVODS

>>60589778
kek at least pretend you watch streams

>>60590079
nijis have said kson on stream before too. you're not really making them look good.

>>60590050
You do realize よろしくお願いいたします has like a trillion possible translations right? You could pretend to have a point if she had said 初めまして.

>>60590071
>https://www.youtube.com/@MataraKanVODS

Oh alright thank you. I was afraid she had to delete it because of some yab...

>>60589640
Miko and Haachama congratulated Kson in the past.
Recently in a Minecraft stream, Pekora and Marine mentioned Rushia, pekora thanked Rushia as she ransacked her the home of Rushia for diamonds and Rushia as Mikeneko replied back later in her stream.

>>60590050
eopsama...

>>60590214
you do realize the point is she ignored kson until she literally appeared in her face live on stream where it was unavoidable to see her and only then congratulated her indirectly. that's niji-tier blackness.

>>60587377
damn

>>60590624

>>60589317
Thats why they killed off haachama

>>60590742
how have they moved lmao
>>60587710

>>60590624
i don't know what you wanted her to do. was she supposed to mention kson every stream for you to be happy or something?

>>60590821
post a reply to kson's "i won" tweet saying congrats. you know. congratulate her. but on her hololive account instead of her rm.

>>60588059
Wonder if she's considering bouncing too considering she's also very friendly with Nerissa.

I mean, fuck, if anyone ever needed a re-roll on their model, it'd be her. I wouldn't blame her.

>>60590796
Wasn't your point that the holo girls would have to pretend they don't know who Kson is and act like it's the first time they see her? >>60589778 Which is false.

>>60587377
Interesting...

>>60591053
my friend, they were extremely close friends who talked every day and miko sobbed over her graduation. now it's reduced to "oh i heard of her" due to company rules. are you pretending to be dense, or are you actually so new that you don't understand how sad and pathetic that is? watch streams. preferably old ones, back when hololive had soul.

>>60591402
I don't give a shit about that, I don't even disagree with you. I just pointed out that your exaggerated dystopian headcanon is already not happening.

>>60587710
Delete this.

>>60587710
Kson is a retarded bitch and she always has been

meanwhile
https://youtu.be/dnP5bIRfwq0?si=O3Q1gErb5EqRUyRW

>>60591891
But that's why we love her

>>60591971
>we
You mean the redditors from /hlg/?

>>60590996
Reimu isn't gaining any viewers no matter what she does and she hasn't put any fuckin work into this company other than fucking Vox. So, probably

>>60592079
we as in those of us outside of the great firewall

>>60587377
Follownig backstabbers shows unloyalty. I'm glad Fulgur is loyal to Nijisanji and doesn't collab with outsiders.

>>60587710
STOP REMINDING US THAT COVER USED TO DO SHADY SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>60587710
Coco is a gross whore whose entire schtick was being the kind of person who is proud to get someone else hooked on drugs so they aren't a 'lame straightedge', she's like the Andy Dick of japanese vtubing and none of them even really knew her.

>>60587710
Yeah, and whose fault is that Zhang?

>>60591891
>>60592720
>>60592729
look at how mad they get when you point out their company is black too

>>60592237
Kind of surreal how I felt bad for the ethyria girls 2 years ago because their numbers were shit, then 1 year ago they were doing pretty good especially enna and now the cunts are back to where they were 2 years ago except enna since she's a malicious leech.

>>60592803
>quite literally cannot understand the difference between 2% and 50%

>>60592729
Unironically Cover for giving in to zhang demands, then dropping the entire zhang department. Like what was it all for?

>>60590926
Why should she do that? It would be a petty, antagonistic gesture to Cover for no reason.

>>60592803
Hololive couldn't acknowledge kson without every chuuba who did risking having their chat with angry bugs making it look like Tianenmen Square in Spring of 1989. If you can come up with a good reason why Pomu had to delete that tweet, I'm all ears.

>>60592969
>it would be rude to cover if she congratulated her friend
hooooooooly shit lmao

>>60592920
2% on merch sales vs undisclosed, but speculated to be payouts at certain capstones (Why Kronii and Mori were begging for a certain amount of sales of their shitty merch)
>50% for VP sales, vs undisclosed

>>60592920
>they're not black, they're charcoal grey

>>60593043
>her friend
Are they actual friends?
Business and personal lives don't need to fully overlap just to ameliorate your autism.

Derailing a thread is easy, you just have to mention Hololive out of the blue and people will forget everything and try to defend their oshis.
This is disgusting newfag behavior

>>60593219
All jap corpos are intrinsically black. The very fact they have workarounds to their cultural stigma of firing people or forcing them to quit would be day 1 picketting in even the reddest of USA States

>>60593495
>newfag behavior
since the days of /jp/, it's been a tried and true method

>>60593495
they're not even defending their oshis. i never said anything negative about a hololive girl, they're all nice girls and i like them. they're literally just deepthroat sucking corporate cock. it's sad.

>>60589939
>>60590437

>>60593511
Actually at will employment is and will always be an objectively good thing.

>>60587710
except fubuki for some reason

>>60592720
>>60591891
back to the wall wumao

Doxsite is down that's why sisters all move here just saying.

>>60593790
"At will" only works if there's a contract or guaranteed minimum timeframe for employment that can't be rescinded by normal means....which most "at wills" will only secure for their end (i.e, you can't just randomly quit, but we can randomly dismiss you)

>>60593834
women love to gossip so much wtf

>>60593628
Nigga you're sucking nijisanji off, you're not even better, you're arguably worse in all fucking aspects lmao.

>>60594230
i never said anything positive about nijisanji here. i literally called them a black company several times.

Why is Pomu still on Niji? She'd be much happier if she jumped ship to Hololive or Vshojo

>>60594230
>'And this....is to go.....even further beyond retarded!' - anon, failing to read any part of the posts

>>60594358
because of lucas cuck

>>60594409
Luca has a cuck?

>>60594409
They don't interact nearly as much as you think they do

>>60594474
or maybe they are just hiding it?

>>60594586
>Source: my cuck fantasies

>>60594358
because Elira is literally her best friend

>>60594402
>>60594317
>Derailing a thread about nijisanji being a black company to Hololive stuff
>''I-I'm not defending niji!!''
Nigga please.

>>60594586
they have off-collab buying panties for orgies

>>60594718
Put the helmet back on before you hurt yourself, retard

>>60594718
it's my duty to remind all corpofags that their companies are black. this means reminding holofags whenever they make tribalthreads. sorry if that offends you but maybe you should get your company to change rather than lick their boot if you don't like it.

>>60589259
Pomu would find an easy way in if she wanted

>>60594659
Hey, everything is possible in Nijisanji, for all we know there might be a sex cult leaded by enna where everyone have to cum inside Millie because she's ugly af and can't get any dick.

>>60593073
The only reasons Kronii extended her merch window is because she wasn't able to shill much during the initial period because of her jaw surgery recovery and the fact that her birthday merch got slapped with a shipping fee that was 1.5x the amount of her merch itself because of Cover fucking around with their shipping at the time.

>>60594789
>>60594889
I accept your concesions

>>60595105
you can't do that. you didn't even make an argument.

>>60594358
The all female and all male waves would have 0 issues joining any corpo they wanted, and the mixed gen waves are doing well enough to be at a fancy ass hotel spread in JP right now while the other half that aren't there all went on a vacation.

>>60595105
there is nothing to concede because there was nothing being put up. This is the equivalent of those liberals in cuckifornia reading from a twitter post to someone then running away before they hear the retort

>>60594940
Pomu should just be in Mythic. There's no need for her to be in a corpo anymore.

>>60591967
sayu my darling...

>>60595630
>Leave all the friends she met up with and knows on a personal level
>To join ass mong's motley crew of "plz join, we have filian and silver" cast

Didn't haachama sent a video to kekson?

>>60591967
Just post the VOD next time instead of this literal who retard drama tuber

>>60595978
Haachama stopped giving a shit as soon as Coco graduated. Everyone who harps about Fubuki's fake ass promise of "i'll leave when Cover is black" Mine Canary shtick are top tier retarded. Look at people like Shion, Haachama, and Ayame for how good/bad shit is

>>60595978
and then she got suspended for it

>>60595978
>Haachama has been sick for 6+ months now
>'Don't worry guys, these girls said they talked to her, and she tweeted!, she's totally fine!"
Like when Admiral Denton was blinking TORTURE in morse code man

>>60596159
>Look at people like Shion, Haachama, and Ayame for how good/bad shit is
>guaranteed growth and huge numbers despite no streams, management never gets on your case
Seems heavenly to me, why would you ever hard graduate from a cozy situation like that?

>>60596453
Nijifaggots not even trying to hide the fact that they are deflecting, sisters are truely vile.

>>60596646
Don't make me tell you twice about the helmet you dipshit

>>60596159
Sounds like a good company when you can freeload like this.

Hello fellow chuuba fans! Don't we just love our Vshojo livers! I love when they react to tiktoks and shorts even if it is yab content! They are so big kusa and bottom left, but can be a bit seiso at the same time! It really makes me want to throw akasupas their way! These kusogakis have such teetee streams. I love zatsudan and utawaku the most! Fellow kaigai niki, who is your kawaii vshojo oshi that you are always there to taiki for?

>>60596159
>>60596453
>>60596004
Now this is actual schizos.

>>60587377
>vshojo talents trying to start shits
>niji management is gonna prevent their talents from taking the bait
Somehow their management is bad how?

>>60596941
Why don't ESL understand the concept of banter?

>>60596941
They could be more effective, truth be told.
There's a reason why, despite being kicked to the curb and -by her own admission- stating how cruel her own management was to her, Kson will ALWAYS take a chance to shit on Anycolor, but perks up tighter than sphincter if anyone tries to badmouth Cover

>>60587710
This post triggers tribalist something fierce but here is one thing, I don't think they doing this makes them black company, there are a lot of nuances involved from ethics, legalities, mores and norms involved.
After all, they're BUSINESS, NOT FRIENDS GROUP

>>60596757
>implying Haachama was suspended and not on a haitus because of her health
>is somehow not a nijifaggot
Or worse you might be a vshitter you lot are bigger corpo cocksukers then sisters.

why don't holoens want to leave their corp as much as nijiens do?
explain to me like I'm retarded and new (I am)

>>60594659
>they only fucked once so I'm not a cuckold after all!

>>60598567
>they only fucked once
>source: my cuck fantasies

>>60595914
She might enjoy being around her friends and the JP nijis, but there's a limit to the company's bullshit that she can take. She's still making jabs at management for not having Home 3D this year.
Plus there's still nothing stopping her from being friends with the EN Nijis behind the scenes, unless they're that petty and childish. If they're that quick to turn their backs on Pomu because she wants to move on to a better future, then they were never friends, just coworkers.

>>60598915
>unless they're that petty and childish
Does he know?

>>60597447
It’s to preserve the graduation culture. If Coco can graduate and everyone has a cry about it, but then the next day they’re just doing the same shit with Kson the graduation loses all meaning. Same thing with someone like Lulu who still has friends in NijiJP, but you won’t see them doing anything together. There are obviously exceptions to this, shit like Tsuna in Vspo but that isn’t likely to be the norm anytime.

>>60599086
I know about the secret GC stream shit, but hopefuly they arent all like that. Or at least the friends she made before she was in Nijisanji, hopefully they wont turn on her. Nina at least definitely hasnt turned her back on Pomu, who knows if the others in NijiEN will do the same though with the clique shit.

>>60598915
>unless they're that petty and childish
Anon they’re a women, they’re all that childish and petty.

I love vshojo poach debuts i dont even watch them but all the chaos it causes is amazing

>>60597632
VShojo fans are our allies in the fight against Niji

>>60596159
In Fubuki's defense I don't think she really understood the gravity of what she was saying meant at the time. All of her friends work at that company, she isn't going to jeopardize their jobs now. Same reason why Coco sucked the company off on her way out despite her grievances with them, at a time when they were fearing the fans revolting again like they did during her suspension.
>>60599332
That's a cute way of looking at it, but the actual reason is to scare talents away from leaving so the company can keep making money off of them.

>>60598915
I'm sure some part of it is not wanting to feel guilty if the whole branch falls apart or gets NijiID'd, which it might if/when one of the Lazulight girls ditches.

>>60601078
>That's a cute way of looking at it, but the actual reason is to scare talents away from leaving so the company can keep making money off of them.
I think it’s a bit of both really, obviously Niji would rather have extra people drawing in money but they have so many on the JP side they aren’t really going to notice anyone who isn’t at the top being gone, and for Holos they probably realise they aren’t going to be able to make money as easy as they are now if they leave and try the indie route. There’s obviously exceptions there as well, but for the most part there’s really not much work to be done in trying to scare them into not leaving.

>>60587710
And I thought bait was beginning to get lazy.

>>60587710
They also forced Kson's roommate to move out. And yet people will say that isnt black company shit.

>>60594358
The honest answer?
Sunken cost.
She most likely thought about leaving awhile ago and since she decided against it, she is just deciding to go down with the ship.

>>60587710
>"b-but HOLOLIVE"
nijiseethe
nice discord defense force party btw

>>60603602
>literally any criticism of Hololive is nijiseethe
I accept your concession.

>>60589408
>>60589692
Rushia has nothing to do with kson though
Plenty of holos and even nijis still mention Coco, and a vast majority of them don't want anything to do with kson.
And in the same way, no one gives a shit about mike or nzn - only the character rushia (who is very much dead) is given a shit.

>>60602043
They don't really have any choice if they want to survive as a business. When NijiHolo started they basically had a monopoly on vtuber tech. They lost that. Indies can get the same artists and L2D riggers, and even get them to do a better job since they don't have corporate deadlines. They still have impressive 3D, but they're rapidly losing ground there too. Traditional 3D is getting to be affordable to bigger streamers. Project Melody and Zentreya each have their own 3D studios at their houses that are on par with what NijiHolo offered a few years ago. Motion tracking 3D is also starting to get really cheap. Suits like what CodeMiko and Kson have are still expensive but affordable to a lot of larger vtubers. Mocopi is affordable to everyone, and while it is really jank still, it's only going to get better and more accurate in time as they release new versions. There will eventually be a time when random ass chuubas with like a thousand bucks can have 3D tech that is nearly indistinguishable from what the million dollar studios can provide on a technical level.

So what do these big companies have to offer? Networking, basically. People join those groups to do collaborations and events with their existing big name talents. They have to maintain that monopoly because it's all they have now. And they know that, you can observe it with how insular both companies have gotten over time.

>>60590996
bouncing to another corpo is only a option to successful chuubas or chuuba with contacts
Reimu is none of them

>>60587377
Can't believe not-Nina literally named herself "cockroach". Could at least try to be more subtle

>>60589640
No, just nijiniggers probably.
Nothing stops holos to do shit with graduated

>>60608132
link those kson mike and delta hololive collabs eslbro

>>60592720
>the kind of person who is proud to get someone else hooked on drugs so they aren't a 'lame straightedge'
probably the best description for her I've heard. Is there a specific word for this, or does it just fall under peer pressure/bullying/hazing?

>>60587710
https://youtu.be/VrvbLKLyGkU?t=2652

>>60606872
>And they know that, you can observe it with how insular both companies have gotten over time.
JP side of both companies isn’t really insular though, everyone who outside collabed before still does it. Shit the only guest at Towa’s solo live was a Vspo who Towa started e-fucking when she was still a Niji.

>>60608218
They’ll link you Haachama sending a video to Kson and completely ignore the fact her only actual collabs with Holos have been with roommates.

>>60609044
Isn't this the video Chama got suspended over?

>>60608218
Delta mods are chinks who spammed Coco in the past.

>>60589168
>>60589192
>chihuahua
I didn't know Pomu was a beaner

>>60590996
>>60592237
>>60607547
Reimu, if you didn't get into Holo from the start that's even more of a pipe dream now. Highly unlikely you'll be able to pull a Luna and somehow make the jump. Vshojo is your best bet, and even then you need better numbers to even be considered kek.

>>60592837
Enna's a cunt. Reimu's the leech, she was lucky Nerissa somehow gave her any attention because her trying to latch onto Gura and Kiara failed.

>>60592503
Fulgur can't follow anyone because he's a fat fuck that can barely move.

>>60593812
Find new cope already, holoinsect.

>>60599383
Pomu Nina Rosemi Selen and Elira were streaming over that stream, the board's darlings are safe

>>60592720
Yellow batsoup covered fingers wrote this post

>>60615733

>>60593628
>They are deepthroat sucking corporate cock
>t. Anykara dicksucker that derailed the thread by saying Cover bad, when OP points out Anykara that is a black company
Holy lack of self-awareness

>>60587377
>>60587710
so true, sister
try harder with your collab shilling

>>60608218
>Going from tweets to full on collabs on stream
Nice goalpost moving Nijinigger

>>60615900
Yeah, that's you on the poster.

>>60587377
You just know

>>60615900

>>60587377
>afternoon in jarkata
>holokek seething bait threads

??????

>>60615900
KEK

>>60603909
>Meanwhile Honma
Safe to say Zhangs opinions are no longer relevant

>>60587710
Another victory for Holo

>>60587846
best post in this thread

>>60589168
nta, that sounds like a real explanation ty

VShojo is the only objectively pro-talent company. Nijisanji and Hololive are just varying degrees of bad.

>>60619494
I wonder who is behind this post

>>60589168
I'll miss the back and fourth they had with each other.
It was one of the few reasons I still watched NijiEN.

>>60619584
I dare you to argue against his point.

>>60587710
??? about what? and which holos, the same ones that she did collabs with?
A lot of holos don't even have active roommates anymore, and they were all good friends with her.

On the other hand, a certain Tokyo Ghoul congratulated Coco on her graduation and was forced to DELETE that tweet, just like in the OP.
Nijikek projection at it's finest.

>>60587377
Some had followed Kuro and were forced to unfollow him too

>>60620279
Which ones?

>>60620323
Reimu

>>60589640
Towa had no problems interacting with Tsuna, even brought over their friendship from her old identity and pretty much everyone from both their fanbases knows about it.
On-screen collabs with new holo identities are going to be extremely weird with the fans having to hear the same voice coming they're used to, coming from a different person. It's also not wise to allow it because it could cause the "box" to "leak" outside. This is what happened with Shigure Ui to an extent, because despite her only relation to Hololive being Subaru, she's still managed to become an "honorary holo" through her activities (not that anyone is complaining about it, just talking about the effect).
Hololive and "not hololive" is kept with a strict delineation because the brand's identity depends on the talents within it.

Some holos also choose not to interact with graduated talents because it's extremely awkward. You've referred to them as one name your entire career, and now you have to ACTIVELY remember to call them something else. Your activities after graduation also may not align well, esp. because of corporate safety issues (e.g. Kanata moving out on her own after KSon joined VShojo with Mikeneko).
The talents can still keep being friends with graduated talents in private, and even tell stories about how they hung out off stream (e.g. with Sana).

Holo talents have no issues with talking about graduations and stuff from other companies. Matsuri was beside herself when Mayuzumi announced his graduation, and iirc she also talked about Gundou sensei's graduation on twitter.
They can even visit them, say goodbyes, and wish them well on twitter. Which Niji stops them from doing (Kuzuha had to delete his Coco graduation tweet).
In this particular instance, I think they were right to delete it though. Since I agree about the distinction of the brand being important.

>>60620323
kyo and hex. they unfollow him after that, but kyo follow him again with his rm account

>>60619494
What does it actually do for anyone? They've had three of their talents walk out, so presumably not providing enough value for them however "pro-talent" they are.

>>60620810
>value

Man niji has been taking nothing but L’s

>>60620926
I would pay at least 20% of my salary to have someone on hand to tell me to just do whatever twitter retards are demanding.

>>60621778
Hmm, that's a bit low. How about 98%?

>>60587710
Congratulate for what, joining Vshojo? LMAO
Also if they really did that was obviously to not piss off the chinks.

>>60588529
99.9999999999999% of this board n!gger

>>60588059
>leeches nerissa
>now leeches her former co-worker
i hate this cunt so much

>>60621907
For her birthday and for winning that Yakuza competition. Although what that anon said isn't exactly true because for example Haachama called in.

>>60621944
Obviously she’s next to quit after Selen

>Make cheeky response aknowledging her friends PL before deleting it
>BLACK COMPANY BLACK COMPANY
I can't tell if you guys are willfully retarded or if it comes naturally

>>60622681
Corpofags don't know how keked they are...

>>60622702
I'd be interested to hear what you think the management hierarchy is and what each person's responsible for. Which part of the chain do you think is the weakest?

>>60609720
Holy retard.

>>60587710
Stop samefagging you pathetic retard

>>60606872
At least do a better job of pretending, retard.

>>60619494
Hololive has gotten my oshi things she only dreamed of that she wouldn't have gotten elsewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks2UnT4Nzcs
Keep being salty.

>>60591402
It just means they were that close

>>60592803
>black too
You'd love if that was the case.

>>60587377
Who says that Niji management forced her to delete it?

>>60590624
It's a wonder retards like you don't drown in the rain.

>>60623196
hololive sent an army of chinese nazis after my oshi then refused to do anything about it

>>60589640
It's not messed-up, it's just logical. If everyone could just dip their toes in, graduate and still fully benefit from the holobox, there would be no point in staying in the company anymore. It would become a revolving door.

>>60593511
>All jap corpos are intrinsically black
>because workarounds exist
So, all companies are black, commie?

>>60623575
Ah, so you're an actual retard. Got it.

>>60593511
>a culture of mutual respect would have chimps rioting in even the most uncivilized of states
You say this like it's shocking.

>>60623130
Pretending what?

>>60623825
it was before your time so it may be hard to believe. they used to force everyone to stream on a chinese website, then when two got in trouble for looking at their google stats, which was allowed and something the girls did frequently, they suspended them without letting them apologize. then when the chinazis attacked they didn't let her have chat mods and banned her from most collabs so the nazis they fostered wouldn't bother the other girls.

>>60589378
lmao this is literally illegal
One thing is canceling someone, or boycotting how we used to call it back in the day, but denying someone's authorship over something is on a whole other level. You can't even do that legally - you can sell certain rights to your work, but the authorship rights can never be removed or transferred to someone else
https://creativa.legal/authors-economic-and-moral-rights-what-are-they/#:~:text=These%20rights%20are%2C%20by%C2%A0their%20very%20nature%2C%20not%20transferable%20and%20they%20cannot%20be%C2%A0waived..

>>60587710
nijisanji deflection post

>>60624397
I mean, they probably just hid her from the title, and I don't really care to check for myself, but in case they removed her from the credits that's a big no-no

>>60620810
Getting rid of Nyanners, Vei and Silver might've been their real strategy. I think these "losses" and getting Henya, Geega, Kuro and Mataran made the group better.
Gunrun needs to get rid of Melody, Froot and Nazuna for his roster to improve further

>>60618040
In the case of Himawari she has more than enough reason to despise zhangs with the whole of her being after their coof almost killed her.

>>60624664
>Melody
Fuck you. She's currently my favorite in the group, and I have never even watched her cb stuff. She wasn't at first, but she grew on to me. I even started watching her over Nyanners, despite her being the main reason why I was into vtubers for the longest time.

>>60624298
I've been around longer than you, anonchama. Adding garbage on top of garbage doesn't improve your argument. It just makes you look desperate.
This one was really good.
>banned her from most collabs
>Please ignore that she did shitpost review, ark, minecraft, amongus, monster hunter, phasmo, keep talking and nobody explodes, and offcollabs.
Immediately rope.

>>60587377
This is a sizeable rrat, all the seething is making the water boil

WOMEN CANNOT UNDERSTAND METAPHORIC LANGUAGE?

>>60589983
cope

>>60587377
they dont need to stay that way

>>60587377
Pomu...

>>60620926
retard is not an offensive word when it comes out of a retards mouth. just like nigga.
But the company doesn't care about protecting their talents.

>>60587377
So Pomudachi what's the line for you?
How badly will Pomu need to be wronged for you to turn your back on Niji?
Treatment of her projects is what keeps depressing her and it's always up to Elira and friends to get her out of it. This is not healthy, something's gonna give.

>>60592503
>>60592503
He's literally playing Party Animals with Zentrya this week

>>60625467
kiara confirmed that all of en was banned from collabing with her but nice try rewriting history

>>60587710
Are you forgetting about the Chinese factor in this equation?

>>60606872
>So what do these big companies have to offer? Networking, basically.
Running advertising, giving tech support, offering legal protection, keeping an eye on trends and analyzics, organizing stuff like sponsorships and merch, taking care of dumb shit like youtube randomly banning your channel... there are still plenty of things corpos can do for chuubas if they're competent and give a shit

>>60609044
>>60623051
How come she didn't send a message this year? Weird how it only happened once then she said she got punished in a mengen and it never happened again.

>>60639481
I'm talking about what HoloNiji do to set themselves apart from the competition. Every vtuber group offers those things, from the small ones to the traditional talent agencies that are scooping up western vtubers now.

>>60589671
Then why doesn't Vshojo just go "Hey we recruited Nina from Nijisanji!" If they're not afraid of repercussion. This isn't "black company bad" shit. This is "breaking NDAs bad" shit.

>>60637960
>he's a backstabber too
Fuck I was told he was a loyal company guy who hated Hololive. Well, I guess there's Luca.

>>60588042
she left on good terms

>>60640131
dyrbi

>>60624397
all rights to the characters and works they produce are owned by Anycolor anyways

>>60640092
Ah yes, my favorite Hololive member, Zentrya

>>60641732
>he doesnt know that Zen is Yagoo's alt
lmao

>>60587710
HAACHAMACHAMAAAAAA

>>60637738
I don't see how any pomudachis with a brain would still be a fan of Nijisanji in any capacity. At this point it's just sad.

>>60639887
Why the hell would they do that? Name one reason, other than pissing off Anycolor (and risking their reputation with other corpos in the process)

>>60587710
the holoseethe is hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw3S9yTZCBI&t=44m35s
>A little while back, I have this friend who's also kinda my nemesis - it's a really long story, I'm not gonna get into it - but, uh, she kinda reminds me of a little chihuahua, she barks a lot, and she's annoying, but I love her - you know, those... you know? And ages ago, I was showing her all these beautiful monster girls from something called 'Monster Girl Encyclopedia' - I don't know if you ever heard of it, please look it up! And, uh, this nemesis of mine just goes: "Hey, why don't you just get K_Cross as your concept art?" Such a silly little suggestion, such a silly silly little suggestion, but, if you love monster girls, you've probably heard this name, you've probably seen this name.

>>60591891
I don’t hate her, but I’ve never understood her appeal even since she debuted as Coco.

>>60587710
>rm accounts

>>60641768
I would believe this too

>>60602363
I'm so fucking glad Kanata doesn't have to rely on that shitty edgy leddit whore kikeson anymore

>>60645143
Nice of Fuwawa to help her like that

>>60587710
uhhh bros????

>>60639321
>say you don't watch streams without saying you don't watch streams

>>60587377
Vshojo please save Pomu too

>>60647230
brown

>>60648132
jestem polakiem, ty upośledzony umysłowo idioto

>>60645494
big boobs, and paving the way for black company hololive lol to have more vulgar content?
All japanise companies are black companies imo.

>>60639321
clip? I'm a tourist and don't care either way, but you are worse and beneath me if you can't supply.

verification not required

>>60641782
I respect her for just going for it.

>>60649658
that's just worse

>>60649958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWO9foVnigs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XrbXkcpVFs

a nijisanji 'borrowed' her expensive microphone setup for ASMR and never bothered giving it back after she graduated so she's now stuck with a shitty mic

>>60650671
Are there any non-newfags here who remember that awkward time when nobody in HoloEN would even say Coco's name for like 3 months

>>60649958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz5MNHH2XxI

I want Nina to ride my cock.

>>60637738
What I wouldn't give for Pomu to pass on, and inhabit a ghostly form.

>>60651916
does she use that as an excuse for no ASMR
i think she didn't like doing those anyway

>>60651916
>>60657087
Are you talking about Pomu? She still has her ASMR mic. The joke was that if Pomu won that Lords Mobile sponsor competition, she would give Rosemi her ASMR mic. But Rosemi ended up winning and got her own ASMR mic, so Pomu still has hers.

>Promoting a former graduated talent
Its just business, not that you apes would know anything about that.
Doubt they'll collab, no company is gonna allow free advertising like that.

>>60621944
lol? You got yourself angry from your own delusions. Get over yourself twisted mother fucker.

>>60589378
who fucking cares anymore
you faggots never cared about that stupid unfunny cunt

>>60658841
NIJISEETHE

>>60624664
>Nazuna
stfu bitch and leave my wife Nazutan alone. You think VShojo would want to get rid of their one of two biggest ex-hololive members? You're one dumb fucking moron.

Get rid of the fucking whore Melody and if Froot is the one who committed adultery on her husband fuck her too. If not leave her alone too.

>>60659233
please tell me how often you watch her rm streams then faggot

>>60654135
NOOO! Her model is one of the most beautiful in vtubers.

>>60652196
Yeah me. Bunch of pussies probably listened to their manager instead of following Fubuki's lead. And only after Coco announced her departure from holoshit after they failed to protect her from the anti's in her chat and making her feel alone and isolated and crying on stream only did HoloMyth do collabs with Coco.

>>60639887
Dumb ass retard.

>>60639321
>banned her from most collabs
Keep moving that goalpost, faggot. People like you are why I stopped supporting kson at all.

>>60661067
>>60650671
>>60652296
explain this, corpobro

>>60592837
>enna since she's a malicious leech
Are you mentally retarded? This is blatantly untrue it's laughable. I swear you sick fucks who hate enna are some of the dumbest liars I've seen on the boards lately.

>>60614240
Enna's personality is too much for some weakling.

>>60661250
Explain this, retard bro. >>60625467
>shitpost review, ark, minecraft, amongus, monster hunter, phasmo, keep talking and nobody explodes, and offcollabs.

>>60593834
I see like roaches.

>>60594036
More reason why what's going to happen to these bitches will be justly deserved. Stupid bitches.

>>60661402
so did kiara not confirm that en was banned from collabing with her?

>>60661250
>>60661402
>Gets blocked from collabing with 5 EN members because of Omega who is gone now.
>SHE'S BEING BLOCKED FROM MOST COLLABS!
ksonfags are fucking disingenuous retards. Even she was clear that she thought about the place fondly and that she and the company just wanted different things in the end so they split amicably.

>>60661848
you replied to this post
>>60639321
i will now paste the entire contents of that post
>kiara confirmed that all of en was banned from collabing with her but nice try rewriting history
is this true or not?

>>60661797
>banned her from most collabs
>Please ignore that she did shitpost review, ark, minecraft, amongus, monster hunter, phasmo, keep talking and nobody explodes, and offcollabs.
You set your initial goalpost, moved it, and proceeded to try and dodge addressing it several times already. Just admit your original statement was a lie, retard bro.

>>60661797
I'll try to help you understand.
The original statement is that she was banned from most collabs.
You countered that she was banned from EN collabs, using Kiara, who is known to exaggerate things.
You need to at minimum prove she was banned from JP and ID collabs.
That's going to be very hard given the number of collabs she had with JP.
Good luck, anon.

>>60662022
>The original statement is that she was banned from most collabs.
i don't care. someone else posted that. don't get mad at me for standing by what i said in my post. she was in fact banned from collabing with en, as confirmed by kiara.

>>60662120
>I'm defending someone else's retarded statement even though I know it's wrong.
Go get some rope for yourself.

>>60661067
>People like you are why I stopped supporting kson at all.
lol this is some top tier delusional bullshit I've ever heard. So a fan or two stopped you from supporting kson? Not kson herself? LMAO. Just be honest and say you don't like kson nobody gives a fuck just don't be that obvious at lying.

>>60662315
i'm defending my own statement because it's true. if you want to argue with that other statement then reply to that guy. moron.

>>60662459
>Involves self in someone else's conversation
>Contributes nothing besides being a retard.

>>60662561
>replies to wrong guy and yell at him for something he didn't say
>acts like a retard instead of acknowledging that what they did made no sense at all
this is why i don't support hololive anymore

>>60662427
Why would I continue to support someone whose fanbase decided to anti the place where my oshi works? It just means I give more support to my oshi and you can fuck yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jkT9z1MZ0A

>>60662691
Uh huh.

>>60662715
this shitty attitude is why fans are abandoning hololive in droves to watch ui instead

>>60662691
>replies to wrong guy and yell at him for something he didn't say
It's an anonymous board you retard. What do you expect when you inject yourself into a conversation?

>>60662561
nta or but an observing anon and I can see you're heavily relying on your "I got you" card on a different anon after he's explained twice he stands by his comment. You refuse to engage with the one you're actually have the problem with moving the goalpost lol.

>>60662916
>nta

>>60662879
i injected some additional factual context into a discussion about coco and collab bans. i expect you to reply to the post you disagree with instead of a post that contains factual information. that's how this website works.

>>60662802
>Let me shit on Cover and blame it on the fans.
>Thinking Ui's fanbase and Hololive aren't nearly a circle.
Stupid and a tourist.

>>60663077
You injected yourself into a conversation with "bUt KiARa sAID CocO was banNED FROm cOLLaBING WitH EN" where I was waiting for the retard to address their statement
>banned her from most collabs
and my reply
>Please ignore that she did shitpost review, ark, minecraft, amongus, monster hunter, phasmo, keep talking and nobody explodes, and offcollabs.
Strain your brain and figure it out.

>>60662715
lol holy shit the delusions continue. So a couple of fake fucks who maybe claiming to be among the kson fanbase were anti'ing your girl and that's more than enough to not support kson? Whom would not approve of those people's actions but would accept your punishment on her despite not being involved in any of it as long as your happy with your decision. lol. shut the fuck up. You're as phony as those who claim to be from kson fanbase.

>>60663171
actually i shit directly on a fan and said nothing about cover's content itself. your post gives great insight into the mind of a tribalfag though thanks for posting it.

>>60663402
Stop involving yourself in conversations you don't care to understand, shitpost-kun.

>>60663359
none of those collabs were with holo en

>>60663546
I literally do not give a shit, retard.
Go back and read. >>60625467

>>60589378
Management kept her from keeping Zion's image, so she chose the next best thing and erased them both. Maria did the best she could.

>>60663367
Sorry, anon. It's the sad truth whether or not you can accept it. Maybe take some responsibility for the things you shitpost about. I have other places to send my money.

>>60663672
well the first line is most likely wrong, i've been watching chuubas since kizuna ai said fuck a lot so it's probably not a very good post if that's how it starts.

>>60663834
Shitposting retard.

>>60663818
You moron I'm calling you out that you're a phony and shouldn't of bothered posting telling your fucking lies. I don't shitpost either.

>>60664087
>Things I don't like are lies.

>>60664172
common sentiment among hololive fans. see >>60587710

>>60664415
>>60609044

>>60639484
>Haachama who was hospitalized and only made her two video updates in several months.
I legitimately hate you faggots.

>>60665114
just do something else, anon. you can't argue with mental illness.

>>60665114
It's sad that you're literally so tribalistic that you see fans wanting a kino collab complaining about the overbeearing corporate bullshit preventing it as your enemy. I legitimately get sad reading your posts.