/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>598162
Ame does.

I think gura forgot she's a 9000 year old shark

>>598162
>Cali at the top
Kek she's cringe incarnate, probably the worst design/VA choice in all hololive, maybe only on pair with Towa

>>598202
>oh fuck i forgot i'm supposed to be a time traveler again, better mention it during q&a so it looks like i care about my backstory
>anyways time to test my detective skills with more FPSs

>>598374
>trashing on Calli and Towa
you sound like a faggot cumbud

>>598374
based retard

>>598464
>giving a fuck about kayfabe

The holo that loves their design the most

>>598374
Agreed, Cali is horrendously cringe. Isn't her favorite person moist critikal? Kind of all makes sense.

korone has perfect combination in personality and design

>>598162
Gura gets saved because voice matches character perfectly, like, holy shit it is ideal.

>>598311
Seems fitting for the old-timer that she is

>>598489
Nah I'm not a cumbud, Gura is horrible with her char too, she is just like a discount Aqua

Does anyone disagree that Watame loves her character and has the best control of it? She's one of the few holos where it feels seamless how well she does it.

>>598162
>Ina uses her character poorly
>Despite it being constantly referenced and relevant
>kiara uses her character well
>despite her being a fast food owner coming up more than her actual lore of being a pheonix
Are you intentionally being retarded?

>>598162
Retards are incapable of answering this correctly, they will just state their favorite.
So you are a retard for asking this

>>599077
>implying the pheonix lore wasn't irrelevant before her debut even happened

>>598162
Mori plays up her gimmick the most. Gura doesn't even bother wearing her hood anymore.

>>599077
>Only complains about how Kiara is getting praised and Ina is getting shit on
Typical Tako

This chart is... actually pretty solid. Hard to deny it's truth.

Though Ame's design is top tier, that theme has been non existent.

>>599063
Subaru is great with her expressions too, and Rushia does a good job when she isn't playing.
I kinda like Lami too, but that's because her concerned/afraid face is simply great.

>>598162
Ame theme have a lot of potential though, she just need to stop being lazy/have more freedom

>>599248
das rite
you dis ina, you get tako'd

>>599063
She takes advantage of how good her rigging is.

>>598162
does mori do anything besides go "Guh I'm a reaper, imma kill you with my scythe" ?

>>598162
Ina can move a good chunk to the right. The buddy cop duo thing she does with her morator AO chan does wonders.
Also why is Mori on Top of design quality? only due to massive tits?
I would move her lower and Gura higher. The design is so good it sent western journos into a hissy fit.
In the end Takoqueen is in the top right where she rightfully belongs

Idk what they were thinking casting Ame to be a detective when she isn't british. Not saying I like a british accent, but it kinda comes with the territory. Also I feel like someone with her theme should have liked puzzle games.

Ina's theme didn't really have much potential so I don't blame her for not using it. Her tentacles take up the entire stream so its kinda annoying.

>>598628
I want Polka to sit on my face SO bad

>>599786
Dear anon, Ina is my favorite EN too, but if you post like this your credibility drops to 0 in a milisecond and you sound like "muh oshi is the best"

>>599780
>does mori do anything in character except be in character a lot

I really like how Kiara uses hers, people say she doesnt use her warrior part but she does a pretty good amount. I think if she gets an alt outfit she'll probably get more praise in both design and usage in character though

>>598703
No one giving you (You)'s but you're right anon, I see you

>>599707
don't relax around takos

>>598703
>Korone
>Okayu
Best casting ever in the vchuba world

>>598590
it's half the fun

>>598374
rent free

>>598162
>Pekora
>Mito
>Artia
>Ai-chan

These three have the most perfect fit of voice/desing/personality among all vtubers.

>>599248
> Schizo

>>598374
I vote you are wrong.

>>599902
>Only british people can be detectives
retard

>>600441
They weren't going for the life partner subplot but they got it anyways and it works

>>602636
yeah it's retarded but they did base her design over sherlock holmes and that era of england instead of something american like Dick Tracy

>>598162
Deadbrap hands made this image.

>>602797
The talent designs their own character in collaboration with the artist, I don't think Cover enforces much control over it besides vetoing obviously bad designs.
I also don't think she has to have a british accent but playing more puzzle games and doing detective style content would be nice. Her LA Noire streams were pretty in-character for example.

>>603395
her LA Noire streams sucked. you could tell she'd rather be doing something else.

>>603439
Really? I thought she enjoyed the game quite a bit considering she wasn't allowed to monetize the game and still played it all the way through. She also got a kick out of the character model expressions and would interact with chat a lot more enthusiastically than her other streams.

>>598374
Worst take.

>>598162
Eh most the time I find it pretty cringe when they lean too hard into their characters. Kiara’s resurrection stream was pretty clever though, I’ll give her that. And I feel like Gura’s voice fits her design the best so I’ll give her points for that too.

>>599902
Ina could have been a Marine 2.0 or a haachama. The literal tentacle hentai character had a lot of potential for extreme yabai. Though I will say, Ina is really great so it's not really a loss.

>>600047
hey I'm honestly asking cause i don't watch most of her streams
her sheriff persona seemed to have a bit more going on

>>603626
I don't really like the idea of a tentacle character thats also a pervert. That turns into vshojo cringe levels. The fact she's seiso and cute and Marine will inevitably try to corrupt the tentacle monster when they collab just makes it funnier.

Besides Ina's already seduced a bunch of the JP girls including Pochi-sensei so you could come up with some elaborate rrat that the tentacle monster is actually a suave chad that makes girls fall in love with their tentacles.

>>603626
Personally I think it is funny that the one with literal hentai tentacles is also the most innocent. It is a welcome subversion on the expected.

there

>>598489
>>601562
>>602520
>>603508
And people say that the retarded chicken has the worst fanbase in hololive, deadbraps are even worse. Every time that you see a retarded post it's probably an ID, EN or Pekora fan.

>>598162
Calli should be top left. negative x value

>>598464
>oh fuck i forgot i'm supposed to be a time traveler again,
She wasn't supposed to be a time traveler though, that was never part of her actual characterization. It just became an excuse for her being a boomer.

>>598374
This, her voice is no different from a random Twitch whore. I listen to Vtubers because they have high pitched, feminine and childlike voices. Not because I want to listen to Amy Schumer tier dogs

>>607657

Pedo

>>607763
>Calling people pedo unironically
Back to /pol/ ENfag

>>608324
>Enfags are anti-pedo
Anon....

>>599248

Honestly, Luna is miles ahead of everyone else in Hololive in this regard
Her design is "baby princess nanoraaaaaa" and her autism triggered a change in her brain that made her personality "baby princess nanoraaaaaa" too
Luna doesn't have a VA, there is only Luna

>>607657
I think youre talking about amelia

>>598590
Anon... this is literally the "who has the best kayfabe" thread

>>598703
She really does just act like a dog in human form

>>599780
She filters pretty much everything through it. She constantly says she lives in Underwold Japan, calls konbini "Inconvenience Stores", talks about demons, calls pretty much any male she looks up to Death Sensei if she's telling a story instead of like, her boss or her dad, etc.

>>599902
>also I feel like someone with her theme should have liked puzzle games.
you don't watch her streams

>>598162
1. Ina
Her character is "Normal girl, loves art. Read an ancient book and became a Priestess of the Ancient Ones. Is trying to expand their influence" and that is exactly what she portrays. The only flaw is that her drawing skills should have been included in the character.

2. Mori
She wins mostly on design and her music. She looks like an anime shinigami trying to be a rapper. The look works. The problem comes form her persona. The anxiety and awkwardness feels almost real, except when it doesn't at all and it's the cringiest thing since Ame debut threads.

3. Kiara
While the Phoenix side of things is played down a bit, as its more backstory and an excuse for TakaMori shipping, she does lean hard into the KFP side of things. The only reason why she's not 2nd-place is that I hate her design, especially when she's using her power rangers toys.

4. Gura
Is too much of a scatterbrain to even remember she has a character at times.

5. Amelia
Sometimes she remembers to drop character jagron or make references to detectiveing and time travel but is generally just an average "female gamer gremlin."

>>598162
Swap watson and gura and the chart is correct.
In terms of how well they can pull expressions out of their model and how often they use it, it goes Mori>Kiara>Ame>Ina=Gura, though to be fair Ina's model has a very limited range, like Ayame's.

>>598628
Suisei, by a mile.

>>599063
If Watame didnt live in a hole in the wall and could use her 3d for everyday streams she would be the most powerful holo.

>>610189
what, LA Noire and Portal? She she streams like 5% puzzle games and 90% shooty games.

>>598628
Sus hoshimati

>>609943
The Matsuri Procedure

>>610310
I like/dont mind Kiaras sword and shield. But I think it's the need for an outfit/clothes for most people. A lot don't wanna give her a chance because of her outfit in general if im being honest here. She'll most likely get a boost from a change or something

>>610625
Oh, if she gets a new years kimono next year, and uses it she'll blow up.

>>598628
RIP POLKAPANTSU
HATE SPATS
PANTSU LOVE

>>610310
Yeah, desu I can't watch Mori streams for more than a couple minutes. She doesn't speak like a normal human. Kinda makes me not want to watch full EN collabs sometimes

>>610534
Both Portals, Antichamber, Outer Wilds (also fits time travel AND is probably one of her most iconic playthroughs, definitely for me at least), Superliminal and those are without checking.
I'm not gonna act like she makes a ton of use out of the detective thing (she doesn't) or that she doesn't play shooters a lot(she does), but she very clearly likes puzzle games and streams them fairly often, even if she doesn't have a playthrough of one going at the moment.

>>609943
>that time she spent the night at subaru's and she stayed in character the whole time
amazing casting

>>609943
LUNA FARTING? SOURCE SOURCE SOURCE PLEASE I BEG OF YOU GIVE ME THE SOURCE PLEASE I BEG I NEED THE SOURCE PLEASE I BEG OF YOU PLEASE SIR I NEED IT SO BAD I WANT THE SOURCE

>>610534
You don't watch her, huh?

I can't decide for the life of me wether or not she fits her design.

>>599248
I mean it was the most obvious fault. Mori being a little too high on both axis and Gura being too high on use of character (shes not even a shark, but an atlantian), are small in comparison to anyone claiming at all that kiara's use of character is good, let alone great.
Also Ame deserves to be higher on the use of character scale as since she does play into being a detective a lot.

>>609943

>>609943
no her autism was already there she got bullied in nijisanji because she was menhera
hololive just designed a character around weaponizing her mental illness

>>610710
For sure. Shes pretty fun and nice general and clips don't do Kiara justice. I'll feel pretty bad if she lets it get to her that it was her previous outfit holding her back and making many people sleep on her out of EN though.

>>611063
When you make doxxniggers into pay pigs me thinks it works

Remember when Kiara had a sword?

>>602636
even when American makes a shitty sherlock homes character they realize they either need a British actor or at least an actor that can fake a accent for a couple of hours. And frankly it would have made the character stand out more than just "generic American girl doing high pitch anime voice"

>>607657
Go jump off a bridge, incel.

>>611584
>High pitched
I'm Scottish. Women here naturally have fairly deep voices. Even I'd say her voice is about mid-range for a woman. What sort of women have you been talking to.

>>610310
>drawing skills should be included
I think this comes in the form of octopi arms, cuz ink and can grab many utensils. Tho it does feel grating that Iofi has a more artist centered design but is garbage when compared to Ina and Marine.

>>610381

I'd put Ame before Kiara. Her mouth tracking looks good since she actually has both sets of teeth, and can grin.

>>610310

She had a nice moment with the Phoenix theme the other day, in a Calli collab. It was a pretty entertaining conversation where she insisted that if there was ever a problem with her after coming back to life, Calli could just keep killing her until it was fixed, like rebooting a computer.

>>609943
>>610896
i wouldn't trust subaru when it comes to judging formalities she's probably the most strict about that stuff

>>598374
this

>>599190
Tbf she never really did

>>598374
Design
Calli > Gura > Ame > Ina > Kiara

>>598162
>Ina
>not using her model best
I beg to differ.

>>598162
How come you whitebois think that Calli can rap? On god this bitch is fucking trash b. She sounds like your average white trash girl who got adopted by the niggas in the hood. Even this ugly hoe shay dee be on some nice flow and no bullshit. Just straight spittin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhUeDX3-9TA Calli is on that corny shit.

>>600048
actually Mori is my favorite EN but her character is shit, I like her roommate.

>>616762
She's still a better rapper than whatever mumblecore faggot you love.

>>616762
Calli can be good, but too many of her songs are trying to be silly or aren't playing to her strengths. The ones where she (or the unrelated rapper with a similar voice) just goes as fast as she can are great.
t. a black

>>616762
She's actually a pretty good rapper when she gets to rap about something she feels actually passionate about. See "of with their heads" or her pre-calliope work. that and she can flow well. Like better than most "real" rappers

>>617105
Oh yeah she's better than Black Thought and Freddie Gibbs... Two very prolific mumble rappers from soundcloud... Miss me with your bullshit, zoom zoom.

>>617194
Is her roommates output that different? I'm tempted to check it out. So far she hasn't impressed me as her persona, so I really didn't want to bother with all that.

>>617282
Her roomate works not radically different, but its significantly more coherent and. More electroswing, and she plays less into a character and more into story telling. Raging Ray and Jin is especially good.

>>617282
I wouldn't say it's different, but just because there's more there's more where she's doing what she's best at, if that makes sense.

>>610310
>Gura
I'd say her "character" is that of a scatterbrain, but that's just because Gura IS a character by herself. Her design and VTuber avatar just feels like an excuse to just put HER in the company and let her do whatever. She doesn't need to act, she just talks. This is HER normal (toned down obviously, but it's still her).

>>617282
>Black Thought
>Freddie Gibbs
I can't believe you actually bit that, and not only dropped names but dropped literal garbage. Amateur chop at almost any level of skill will blow the best mumblecore out of the water any day.

>>616762
What cursed shit did you link there? She looks like she comes from a NSDAP propaganda poster about Untermenschen but she flows well.

>>606745
cope

>>617437

>>617282
lmao
>im gonna ride with this bitch
>imma get high with this bitch
>bitch you be suckin my dick
>suckin my dick like a bitch
guess who ghost wrote those lines for freddie? hint: it rhymes with calli

>>598628
I fucking hoshi her arse

so much potential with lovecraft theme, should've been given to a short story writer, it's wasted on ina

>>598162
KFP hands made this image

>>607657
cringe

>>598162
Amelia has the best design

>>598162
Anyone who didn't say Watame is wrong.