/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>6020563
Damn that's big dick

you are late to the party buddy, we know about the tweets and the people she follow and it means shit, nice try though, you have to go back

>>6020563
How far would they go, to just leech on her LMAO.

god I hate veibae so much

why would she ever bother joining another company? The only reason vtubers do it is to get a name for themselves, which she already has, and I doubt vshojo of all places would boost her popularity any.

vshojo is desperate we know

> Some of the biggest, independent names interact on twitter after years of being openly interested in each other's content

GUISE ITS HAPPENING

vwhorejo beggars really reaching at this point

>>6020727
it also means she can take part in vshojo-only collabs

>Just saying good things to someone makes you guys this mad.

I think you guys really need medication.

>>6020918
Shut the fuck up Ironmouse.
>>6020873
That's it? That's the benefit? LMAO

>>6021138
not that poster but i can't believe how much you care about something you don't like, if you put half this energy into improving yourself maybe you wouldn't be such a fucking insufferable person desu

>>6020563
>presuming confirmed based on a single reply

will we hate her if she really join vshojo?

>>6020563
I love vshojo now!

>>6021185
Where the fuck do you think you are? Everyone in this board is an insufferable faggot. That includes you, if you care enough to reply.

>>6020873
Is that really worth having half of your profits taken though? I would think everyone would be willing to collab with her regardless, anyway.

>>6021276
I wouldn't really care since I don't watch them, but it would be a little rude, desu. She makes such an emotional exit from hololive, just to join another company in under a month? That just looks wrong to me.

>>6020873
Going for the 41%er fanbase isn't a wise business decision for someone that just left the top industry.

>>6021185
>Anon responds to a retarded post
>ImProVE yOuRseLFfff, wHy u HaTe? OnLy LAb hErreeeee

>>6020727
It's easier as a group. You can share viewerbases and bolster each others content. Makes sense in particular due to the fact Coco relied heavily on collabs and general interactions with other vtubers.

>>6021378
well, she won't be joining as Kiryu Coco. That orange dragon is dead for good, and thus deserved a funeral, I guess.

>>6020563
Imagine leaving HOLOLIVE to join the tranny whorefest that is Vshojo.

>>6020655
Really? She seems really cool. I haven't seen any of her streams, just her collabs and her D&D game with arcadum.

Really nice voice.

>>6020563
wtf I was really hyped for a second after reading the headline and then realized that it is just an irrelevant reply

Majority of this board unironically need meds

>>6020563
Waiter, I ordered some some substance on my burger, but as you can see right here there's only a whole lot of nothing.

>>6020563
Shut the fuck up already, retards. She didn't even fucking reply.

>>6020563
Keep dreaming, Vshit.

>>6020563
Why are you faggots like this? Literally a nothing burger she doesn't even have all vshojo followed like people are saying she has.

>>6020563
>Mousey reply
I guess half of vtubers on Twitter is joining VShojo then

kson doesnt have to change her usual avatar huh...

>>6021517
You gotta shitpost harder than that fagchama

>>6021354
Looks like somegook didn't drink their meds today

Why does it even matter?
She's gonna collab with them even if she stays independent.

I don't know about joining Vshoujo, but collab with mouse would be fun.

>>6020583
The V-whores are on every roommate twitter account. IronMouse and Zen constantly tweets at D***D*** too.

>>6022979
>"You gotta shitpost harder than that fagchama"
Jesus, you need to go back

>>6020563
>get annoyed with the "idol" company you work for
>quit and join another one run by YTPMVers
not happening

>>6023432

There's wrong with Dr. D Schulz

Vshitters doxxing again.

>>6020563
I hate nyanners most of all.

>>6022979

FAGkai Haato

>>6023432
They are on every roomate accounts now lol wtf?

Imagine K-son joins V Shoujo and gets her model modified just like Ironmouse with bondage gear

I wonder if people realize ironmouse always has 6k-12k people on her talking streams.
she's unironically on a much higher level than basically all the holos considering how consistent her viewers are and how long she's been around.
and more importantly she does it without the unicorns.

>>6023621
I would cum buckets

>>6020563
if she does join vshojo, she has to switch to first switch to twitch streaming.

if vshojo wants to gain a foothold in japan, she can be the key.

>>6023622
>6k-12k
>basically all the Holos

>>6020563
Why tho?
she hates speaking in english and only uses it rarely to pander to the eop

>>6024069
A few peaks here and there isn't the entirely of hololive, and even they know they're just riding a wave.
vshojo basically built it up from scratch and is still getting bigger and stronger, it would be like if Sora and FBK didn't peak.

Considering Coco would basically keep identical viewership numbers while also not having Cover literally and metaphorically fucking her in the ass, seems like a good deal.
>b-but she could go independent!
she's be terrible as an independent because 90% of her content was leeching on others.

>>6023432
DareDevil?????

>>6020563
I will take back all the emphaties overflowing two days ago if she decided to return to the vtubers scene.

>>6024134
>A few peaks here and there
What the fuck are you even talking about? Off the top of my head, there are at least 10 holos that constantly mog ironmouse on their worst day, not to mention their best. Not to mention collabs. Not to mention events.
>Considering Coco would basically keep identical viewership numbers
This whole paragraph is an irrelevant non-sequitur, but even still, pic related

>>6024134
>"vshojo basically built it up from scratch and is still getting bigger and stronger, it would be like if Sora and FBK didn't peak."
>He wasn't there for the Melody boost
>He wasn't there for the industry wide Hololive boost
>He wasn't there for the industry wide HoloEN boost
Yup, no help from anyone, just hustle. I kneel to Vshojo

>>6022063
Including all of Hololive, Holostars and 1/2 of the Nijisanji boys.
Most powerful vtuber agency in the universe, let's GOOOOOOOOO

>>6024486
What, are we going to pretend hololive didn't get an AI and Siro boost? That they werent' riding the same wave as Mito who popularized the modern vtuber format? That they didn't get help from covid?

Despite what you holobronies thing, hololive didn't do shit it just happened to be at the right place at the right time. Vtubers would have gotten big around the same with or without them simply because they were already getting big long before hololive was a thing.

>>6024578
And from YT after their fuckup banning Coco from live streams.
You can't tell me it was a coincidence people started getting more Hololive content in their recommended after the 4/20 Asacoco.

>>6024652
It was a coincidence.

OP should get rangebanned
Vshojo itself should get banned from this board
OP you fucking retard she hasn’t replied to any of them

Vshojo beggars need to be shot

>>6024578
>>6024652
>>6024735
What the fuck are these posts?
>What, are we going to pretend hololive didn't get an AI and Siro boost?
Nigger, YOU were the one who brought up Sora and FBK first while claiming Vwhorejo was completely organic.
>hololive didn't do shit it just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
Suuuure. It's always just luck kek. Constantly breaking records, all luck. Slowly rising to meet, then surpassing the titan that is Nijisanji without even a 10th of the resources. All luck. Constantly remaining at the forefront of and dragging the industry behind them to greater heights. Luck luck luck luck luck!
>reddit spacing discord tranny
Sounds about right. Actually think about your posts before you type them next time. As you have now found out, you can't edit your posts on 4chan.

>>6020563
I will not allow this to happen. I'll legit join Zhang & his friends and become a full time schizo anti. Please Kson don't do this to me.

>>6025045
>b-but they're the underdogs! really
lol sure.
They were in the right place at the right time and capitalized on it in the worst way possible which has forever poisoned the entire industry which is why everyone hates them.
Hololive success is nothing compared to the shit AI or even Mito did to bring vtubers into the mainstream. They got bigger numbers but relatively its jack shit in terms of results.
But since you're a numberfag, lets not ignore the fact Nyanners still has more views than Gura does.

>>6023520
WAS THAT FAKE

>>6025176
>why everyone hates them
Kek
>But since you're a numberfag, lets not ignore the fact Nyanners still has more views than Gura does.
>Nyanners - Account made in 2011 - 127,552,234 views
>Gawr Gura - Account made in 2020 - 136,214,721 views
The actual clearest display of Dunning Kreuger I've seen this year. You must really be the pride of your discord server.
>Bonus
>HER - Account made in 2016 - 109,241,305 views
Precious

>>6025420
>Dunning Krueger
oh you're a chink who just pulls random words you don't understand from the dictionary lol
>inb4 I-i was just testing you!

>>6025420
>he doesn't know
hololive is LOATHED in Japan for being leeching fucks who ruined the entire industry with puritan idolfaggotry after they got big

>>6021630
Stop shilling yourself Vei

>>6025480
>chink
Are you allowed to use this word? What if your server finds out?!

Kson to VOMS.

>>6021608
She's American and would fit in better there but it does feel like a downgrade, right now. I'm afraid vshojo will actually succeed and breed more shitty boring ethots with l2d rigs.

>>6025508
>ruined the entire industry with puritan idolfaggotry

Newfag detected
Hololive is not the firt neither the only idol vtuber startup on the industry.
But is definitely the most popular one.

>>6023520
No, it was really. John Stossel is bitchmade anyway. Deserved it.

>>6020563
You must be a idiot to think that kson ain't joining Vshojo, you know, the group with her friend melody and girls with her same kind of humor? are you guys retarded?

>>6025629

ITT: OP's retarded bait and anon trying to find something to be mad about
I love you, /vt/

>>6025657
Many anons and tourists are still depressed and pissed. Gotta thank vfags for helping them to let off steam

>>6021470
What's 41% mean?

>>6020563
Does the CEO watch her. Does he even know who she is?

>>6025568
Marvel wasn't the first company to make a cinematic universe, but they're the one that popularized and it fucked up films for years because everyone tried to copy them.
Hololive is marvel, except far less competent.

>>6020563
She really needs to stay away from the grifters.

She already had to deal with the chinks, next she'll have to deal with vshitshow antis.

There's plenty of other vtubers she can do stuff with, that she never got to do shit with because she stuck herself in the bubble...

>>6026184
Gunrun follows a lot of non-vshitshow vtubers. The other fucker I don't know.

>>6020727
Vshojo is a company in name and protections only
They function like indies with company protection and have the freedom to do whatever they want
It's a much sweeter deal than Hololive and Niji in terms of creative freedom

>>6025548
wont happen she's too old

>>6026815
Doesn't matter now though, they put them in a shitty bubble by only hiring whores and hypocrites.

They could look for a SFW vtuber and they'd be poisoned by the clique in no time. Everyone knew veibae was coming, and Snuffy will eventually happen too, they're both whores and hypocrites.

>>6026815
there must be some revenue split between the talents and Vshoujo as an organization though, otherwise what's the point.

>>6026867
Why would a SFW vtuber join a group that's known for being crude?
The company doesn't dictate what they do, but you join the group because you like the other people in said group.

>>6026868
There likely is some form of revenue split, but from what I've heard they're all on the "board" of the company. It's more like a collective for bargaining, negotiating and events
Also again, corporate shielding

>>6020563
Even if she did, I highly doubt it'd be as Kson.

>>6020873
she gave up hololive-only collabs to get out of the corporate bullshit

>>6026978
VShojo has no corporate bullshit, they can do whatever they want without being affected by Japanese corpo shit

>>6025314
genuine reporter asked ''wrestling is fake'' to wrestler who took it seriously aint gonna mix.

>>6026867
>they put them in a shitty bubble
>collabs with hololive
how's the copium today? a friendly reminder that Veibae is fingering (YOUR) oshi right now.

>>6027030
it's just not going to happen. the only way she'd join is if she was naive enough to think something will remain exactly the same forever.
when she first joined hololive she liked it because they let her do whatever, but then vtubing boomed and they started hiring managers and pr people and acting more like an actual agency.

>>6027142
VShojo is already as successful as hololive without needing all that corporate bullshit, why would they change?

>>6027276
More like they couldn't change even if they wanted to. Who would get the girls in line? Fucking Mowtendo?

>>6027276
Shills are hilarious. Fucking whos.

I kinda feel like the limits she had made her better; and that without them, she'll dive headfirst into pure degeneracy.

>>6021185
unironic preachpost in motherfucking 4chin is based beyond belief. keep doing it. lol hahah

>>6027353
Mouse had 10k+ viewers on a jackoff stream last night.
Luna had 5k right now.
Korone has 9k.
Okayu has 5k

>>6027276
>as successful
Sure, keep telling yourself that PinkScat.

>>6020563
VShojo beggars are really desperate kek

>>6020563
Honestly, I would love to see all the most popular girls who are forced to graduate move to vshojo. Maybe cover would stop being a bitch to their talent then.

>>6027490
>no management leeches
>no forced corporate meetings
>retain most of your income
>better model for long term growth due to no content restrictions
>already matching hololive in views
Yeah, every girl in VShojo is easily as successful as any holo since they're not managed by fucking Cover and don't need to pay any money to useless suits.

>>6027477
>pathetic
Since they speak English explain why every single member of HoloEN gets that and more every stream?

>>6026815
So. kinda like VOMS in that they have lots of freedom to do what they want

>>6027663
>goalposts
and either way mostly just historic and branding reasons. i don't bother to watch holoEN so I don't keep up with the numbers, but when I happened to check that orange cat the other day she had around 6k. and from what i usually see of mori her numbers aren't regularly breaking the 10k mark either.
gura is the only one who regularly beats out vshojo, and honestly having watched her a few times i don't understand why, she's pretty boring.

>>6027607
Except they aren’t, fucking parasites. No one likes them, they have no brand and no future. Just Twitch trash in a death spiral of obscurity. 10 years is a long to time to fail.

>>6027704
Why'd that one VOMS girl get fired anyways?

>>6027788
drugs.

>>6026868
There is not revenue split, Justin the guy who founded twitch is CEO and mostly sole owner
The girls have a better deal than other place but don't kid yourself anon it's not a co-op or employee owned venture, justing has majority share and is owner

>>6027842
That's it? The way they were vagueing about it, I assumed she had murdered someone.

>>6027761
They'll outlive hololive because they don't do stupid idolshit abd have actual creative freedom screencap this you fucking retard

>>6027893
In japan, drugs are worse than murder.

>>6027759
English audience doesn’t like them, fuck your goalposts. You just can’t stand watching someone eat your lunch, especially since you didn’t even know there was one. Learn a new language or just keep coping.

>>6025508
>t. not japanese and can't understand japanese
ywnbj

I'm exerting willpower to not hate Veibae in anticipation of Kson associating with her.

>>6027930
The freedom to say shit and cum, such creativity. Fucking trash company, get some standards you filthy scumbags.

>>6027956
nigga what are you even on about now?

>>6027089
she will never fuck you, trannybae will take 50 tyrone cocks and brag about it on stream today while you're jerking your bee needle

>>6027788
we will never know

>>6028014
The fucking state of vshits, no wonder you like this trash. If you are too dumb to understand you don’t deserve an explanation. Keep laughing at fart noises retard.
https://youtu.be/CCbWZCCP6m4&t=437

>>6027473
yes anon, limiting some degeneracy is why hololive is good because it doesn't allow them to fall back on "shit fart ass poop cum fuck" jokes every second, they have to actually entertain unlike vwhorejo

Kson's youtube channel has 600k subs. So half of Coco's subs either don't know or are dead subs. When her NDA is expired, what would be the best move to let everybody know that "I'm back motherfuckers"? I'm not asking what you want her to do. I'm asking what would make the most waves and get the word out that she's back?

A collab with popular vtubers.

>>6028453
But Asacoco was better than Shitpost Review.

Perfectly shaven vagina, her juices in my mouth.

>>6027759
>>6027607
Lurk more, last place is not “just as successful” in fact its the complete opposite.
>>6026961

Good, that dumpster is the place she belongs to.

>>6028453
>actually entertain
>just screaming random anime noises
lol
i'll take nyanners turning into a microwave and making peepee poopoo jokes over that.
pretending you're above humor just because they periodically make low brow jokes doesn't make you an adult, it makes you a larping child.

>>6023432
>they’re doxxfags
what the fuck?

>>6020563
vbeggars deserve the rope

>>6028604
>Perfectly shaven vagina, her juices in my mouth.

Is this the part where I mention vshojo is run by twitch staff?
The same ones that extort for nudes, groom children, and hired a tranny deer kin?
wow vshojo sure is based guys
wow wow wow

>>6028699
>proudly the lowest common denominator
How did you get this retarded? Is it because you watch that trash, or do you like that shit because you are dumb?

>>6024564
The entirety of Vshojo Gen 1 would be irrelevant then.
So I guess just like Hololive.

>>6028804
Twitch staff are still more competent than the chink pandering retards at Cover. Try again.

>>6020563
so you only confirmed the moment of kson senpai please notice me

>>6025550
They're already on their way to being a place of ethots with l2d rigs since their home is twitch after all.

>>6028699
According to this retard this is considered peak entertainment. You truly deserve this.
https://youtu.be/CCbWZCCP6m4&t=437

>>6024806
You would need to kill every single zoomer who is into weeb culture

>>6023432
Zen you mean Monster Hunter Content Creator Zen that made a fantastic guide for SnS on Monster Hunter World?
That actually follows kson and d6 too

Ironmouse wouldn’t be so bad if she didn’t leech off cdawg all the time, sheeesh

>>6028817
>>6028938
yes.

>>6028804
I don’t think gunrun was with twitch when that happened he’s long left the company before that

>>6027607
>shitty model designs - as much as talent do it, there's an awful habit going on here, look at Ironmouse
>guilty by association which fucks you from certain stuff, because you're associated with Melody
>don't do anything for vtubers as a whole, it's just Melody's clique and nothing else
>awful community with people who didn't care for you until you joined the group
>clipfags only post you because you're in vshitshow now, again didn't care before you joined even if your content was good
>obvious viewbotting going on with streams and videos (the Snuffy clip account is well known for this, even if she isn't officially vshitshow she is obviously the next signup coming this year)
Need I say more? kson DOES NOT NEED vshitshow, she can run her own group which would be better.

>>6029143
And he wasn't even anything major in Twitch too, that's what pisses me off about people constantly bringing him up. He wasn't a big player, just another guy in the office.

>>6020655
Her only crime is having a gay pride symbol on her twitter. Everything else is just your ignorance.

>>6029859
>Everything else is just your ignorance
And her retarded rant.
https://files.catbox.moe/yif1bp.mp4
The Transcript
"I actually... I hate that. Like, that side of Hololive that roleplays. Because it like, when you know, about all like the uhm... background stuff, that they have to do just to be in Hololive and how they have to be roleplaying it's like spooky. Hololive personalities don't own their model. They don't have any decision making when it comes to how they look like. They don't own their YouTube or their social media. If they get fired, they lose everything. Yeah, it's called graduation, it's so fucked up, dude! Fuck that shit! You get graduation into homelessness that's so fucked! [reads comment: They promote their talents as idols.] Yeah, fuck, then they get doxed and shit. I dunno I hate it. I like, I like the uh, streamers, I think. I don't know, I don't know like what I like. I like the roleplay but the whole idol culture is so messed up. It's hard for me to watch Hololive a little bit. It feels really scripted, no? Yeah I think, I think that they just have to stay in roleplay. They literally support a terrible company. After the actual idols that have left Hololive talked about it, and the way that they're treated... Keep defending it dude."
-Veibae

I wish she would join vshojo. The meltdowns here would be hilarious.

>>6030024
I've seen like 4 posts with this exact wording. Are you people bots?

>>6029966
I hope people keep bringing this shit up whenever this bitch tries to do something with Holo. It worked once when she tried to collab with the chicken.

>>6020563
>woman who quit vtubing altogether confirmed to be going to vtube
>by way of a tweet that has nothing to do with vtubing
meds.

>>6030050
They're cows. They glow in the threads.

>>6029966
What's wrong with literally anything she said?
She's completely right. You're literally acting like this is wrong with its LITERALLY what happened to Coco.

>>6030050
>I've seen like 4 posts with this exact wording.
>exact wording
Unlikely, considering that's the first time I've posted anything about it, and I personally haven't seen any other posts saying that to be influenced by.

Holofags really are retarded.

>>6030137
>seething

>>6029966
keep defending it dude, your oshi will be the next sacrifice to the chinks

>>6028713
that means they're here!

>>6029966
Without hololive all of the girl streamers bar from noel would have never been popular enough to sustain what they do now, im so fucking tired of retarded english people crying about 'muh idol culture bad'
you literally dont get it and majority of them want to be idols

>it's another episode of Japanese youtube/mildom streamer joins English twitch streaming group
>which she also doesn't need because she's arguably more popular than all of them
Vshojo beggars are so retarded. Kson streams in Japanese. Always has, always will, the bulk of her gachikoi (if you vniggers even know this word) are jap salarymen.

>>6034413
Without Hololive literally the entirety of vshojo would not be as popular.
They coasted off the EN boom as an alternative choice.

What's the point of people making a big crying goodbye like "oh my god I'll miss you ****" when they just move over to her roommate channel anyway

>>6030165
Shes right
But shes gay
EZ

The only good vgirl is the mouse, she's the only thing of worth in that awful group

>>6030165
Are you new or trolling?

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>>6039366
Hello torchbug

>>6020563
>She's going to lead VShojo to crush Hololive

I'M SOLD

>>6034776
Lulu doesn't have a roommate.
She's dead.

I sincerely hope she doesn't join that band of vapid whores.

>>6020563

why ironmouse is so retarded, I see her replying calli roomate

>>6020563
chuubas talking each other isn't a weird thing anon...

Why can’t you all just admit you hate women and that’s why you hate vshojo: because it’s women talking about sex and shit that you think women shouldn’t talk about because it makes you uncomfortable. Otherwise you just jump yourself to these unsupported, pathetic conclusions like somehow even though they’re continuing to grow, they’re actually going to fail. Or that somehow even though the company is based on creative and contractual freedom to the talents, it will end up like a corporate agency. Or that vshojo members are somehow uniquely hypocritical and viewer hungry when nijis and holos do the same shit of riding trends and dropping their old fans before they joined.

>>6041656
>I see her replying calli roomate
So long as she's not calling her Calli there's nothing wrong with that.

I mean, a collab maybe, but that's all
Personally I just need to get used to that new site she's using: YouTube fucking suck, but it's what I'm used to

>>6041792
I don't like them because they're a bunch of insufferable jackasses that would be more than happy to see anything remotely 'problematic' purged from all Japanese media, doujinshi included
And don't TELL Melody wouldn't, ProZD-worshipping anime-dub loving ass...

>>6028604
>>6028784
Dick-mock and Gillette at Viagra

>>6020563
you gonna repost this thread every time someone tweets at someone else

>>6041968
Ass blasted that people have a problem with pedophilia. Not surprising given they’re not Japanese.

>>6028669
>last place
one of the two of us doesn't know how to read that chart, but I'm honestly not sure which.

>>6041968
Got any sources for those claims?

>>6041968
You know, having an opinion on something isn't the same as wanting to murder everything that has it and kill all the readers.

I don't like lolishit. I hate it in manga because its always fucking terrible and lolis look retarded.
It doesn't mean I think everyone who writes lolishit should be burned at stake or anything, they should just be banned from writing loli.

>>6041968
>And don''t TELL me an obvious fact
Yes the girl who gets off while playing eroge on stream actually hates all that stuff, sure.

you fucking retards how is this doxing, she's not not the dragon anymore you bunch of retards, she is just kson now it's her only persona it's not a secret account, do you expect kson to be completely isolated from the vtuber community? when she is also a vtuber to some extent. also DD doesn't care if mouse tweet at her or she would've told her since they are in contact and even did a collab and nothing changed

>>6021630
nice voice, awful person

She is doing connection reps for phase connect.

>>6021630
Hi Vei

>>6029231
>anything major in Twich
Wasn't he the guy who provided the tech/tech support for all the IRL streamers after Ice Posiedon by 2016-2018? You can see his ugly ass weeb anime face when an IRL backpack gets disconnected

>>6021630
Yeah. She cute.

>>6042367
i can see why people car her disgusting for what she talks about but she doesn't seem an awful person to me, she just talk about whatever and doesn't really think about it only bad person argument i've seen is that dumb take she had on hololive

>>6042540
>You can see his ugly ass weeb anime face when an IRL backpack gets disconnected
thats because he created the IRL backpack

>>6042633
>dumb take
Formerly, but thanks to Coco it was proved right.

>>6029231
>wasn’t a big player
He was like, one of a small group of people at getting twitch off the ground at justin tv. He was not just some dude at the office until Amazon acquired them and he kinda became redundant. I imagine he also had stock so he could just fuck off if he wanted too

>>6042196
Fuck you

>>6021608
She fits right in. Wouldn't be surprised when it happens.

>>6020655
I just don't like that she's a basic twitch streamer. People don't watch vtubers to hear about twitch drama and watch meme compilations, it's fucking retarded. Her voice and model are wasted on her personality.

>>6027607
>>already matching hololive in views
WRONG

>>6041968
>Melody
She's a lolicon herself.

>>6043084
I love how defensive holobronies get when called out so they just start spamming sourceless bullshit charts they pulled out their ass.

>>6034518
I have no reason to know Japanese words, you pathetic weeb. Move to Japan already.

>>6026184
Mowtendoo runs vshojo? What the fuck?

>>6020563
Everytime I see VShojo girls they’re always leeching on Hololive, they even comment on Mori other twitter account constantly. These whores are annoying hope ironmouse dies soon

>>6043084
what?! a 50 people company gets more views than an8 people company??? HOW. vshojo is ruined you really showed them

>>6043262
>Only pay attention to Hololive
>Why do I only see Vshojo when they're interacting with Hololive?

>>6043383
>not understanding views/time normalizes for that

>>6043152
literally check the archives, it's from >>6026961

>>6044128
>source
>4chan
your brain has literally rotten.

>>6041792
Not everyone likes to hear how they bang and stuff, many find it unnecessary. Personally I don't mind that much and move on if they make those comments, while still being like ''too much info girl'' and contrary to clipfagging beliefs, they don't talk about sucking dick every 20 secs so it can be bearable.

The part where they will end up like a corporate agency..... they already are, they just don't have the necessity for restrictions like holo YET, but one day will come in which the sponsors will demand a kind of behavior and just like youtube, they will oblige, the girls already stopped posting porn on their twitter accounts because sponsors, seems kinda fair but when they can't swear because one of their major sponsors told them to? will Vshojo tell them to fuck off? will the girls bend the knee for money and stop swearing? nobody knows because they are new, and thinking they are the best Vtuber agency there is cause this ''freedom'' they have is still pretty naive, let's give them a year or two

>>6026117
I think it means poor people, the bottom 41% of earners.

>>6042245
You mean her 3D model that is making hand gestures towards her 3D crotch? Man i wouldn't be surprised if she was faking it, is the inernet after all and we don't physically see her, hell knows if she might even be dressed while doing that lol.

>>6044559
Try actually watching her streams sometime.

>>6044402
The key point is that they still own their personas, so if the terms of their relationship with Gunrun ever sour, they won't have to leave their characters behind. Their brand is their own.

>delusional Vshojo beggers

>>6045079
At least I don't defend Jap corpo scum.

>>6044693
Did, that's why i'm talking

>>6044701
Of course they do, why would they give up their personas which make Vshojo famous in the first place and each girl comissioned by herself from their own money? You would have a case if you told me they made models for all the girls plus advertised the shit out of them to get them to where they are and after leaving they can keep them, that would make Vshojo not the best company but the best stepping stone.

>>6044217
at least it's better than a blind statement of "already matching hololive in views "

>>6026184
Gunrun is a massive weeb so ofc he does

>>6046645
You can literally look at any of them while they're streaming and compare the numbers without going
>well technically if you take the number of viewers on this third party chinese streaming app, subtract the number based on the amount of comments in chat, add in the comments after the video, average out the use bandwidth, then divide by the twitter comments...

>>6046841
>ignores vods, also all this strawman
still see no numbers from you, just bullshit talk like "literally look"

>>6046972
That's literally how you do it faggot.
Everything else is coping nonsense.

>>6029078
I think she pulls double or triple the viewcount he does when they stream. If anything he's leeching her

>>6020563
How is that a confirmation?

>>6029966
Everything she said is 100% true. I don't see the problem.

>>6025539
oh no bro they give out licenses to their discord armies, you can say all the gamer words they permit :^)

Unironically if Coco joined Vshojo I would watch her.

>>6028713
Yep. They have zero respect or tact. Just cloutchasing.

>>6029201
she'll join it

>>6047078

he's 100% a leech. The guy is essentially a rapist who is after easy women and it turns out women who stream behind avatars have self confidence issues and are an easy target.

He tried to wave dick at hololive and it didn't work out, now he's after the easy prey

>>6020563
Parasites swarm everyone in Hololive looking for an in.
>CumDawg69420
>Shartemis
>etc.

Why do you schizos consider wellwishes to be malicious?

>>6024134
bugs begone

>>6052921
because those same wellwishers only acknowledge popular streamers or streamer are trendhoppers

>>6028784
kek

Hololive and VShojo are just starting to see collabs so it would be a bit weird to hire Kson right now. At minimum it would be a few months.

She has more pull than all of Vshojo, joining would mean streaming on a worse platform and losing a cut of the money she could make by herself.

She's got too much sense to do that. I can see her staying indie and either improving her model or just being a webcam streamer. Stay away from other companies so she can safely make 1-2 guest appearances back at Hololive a year to bring in huge viewers to her old friends. At most do collabs with them now and then if she wants to help shojo grow.

>>6053641
Yeah regardless of whether she joins or not, she should stick with Mildom over Twitch since she's big enough to get payed to stream there. Starting over on Twitch just isn't as worth it since the sites are already so similar.

>>6029201

I never even thought of kson just starting her own group. She's certainly made enough money to front the gear and support for a generation of streamers and help them get rolling. Doubt she'd do it but if it happened I'd give them my full attention

>>6020655

Isn't she the one who's cute irl and just posts selfies all the time for attention while having no talent?

no fucking wonder she'd never make it as an idol if she couldn't use her irl looks to boost her viewership

>>6043084
fuck am i supposed to do with all these numbers
is all that data useful for anyone

>>6021861
Eilene is half-chinese. He is not going to accept Kson. Heck, even Kson is more sucesssful that Eilene's new V-Brothel

>>6025548
Fatamee NO

>>6026184
>Phillip "MowtenDoo" Fortunat
What the fuck?
MowtenDoo is a real human being?

>>6034413
Bullshit. Rather, hololive has rotted because sluts like Noel have come in." Want to be idols"? Is idol the name of the whore who sings badly on the Internet and licks your ears with the title "ASMR"?

>>6052789
That was funny.
>tried to go for mori
>too autistic and heavily restricted
>tried to go for ame/gura (not sure)
>literally ignored him
>tried to go for ID
>iofi answered
>"no way fag"
>zoombie fangirled
>shit happened
>he decided to pursue other avenues, for some reason

>>6056016
He's not a CCP member by any means. The issue is Coco said she doesn't have any interest in working for another agency. Given her first experience, I can't blame her.

>>6026535
>Marvel
>competent
They're just big. Doesn't mean they're competent.

>>6056601
I never said Marvel was competent. Cover is just even less competent.

>>6052789
>essentially a rapist
where do you retards come from with these kinds of descriptions

>>6056785
to be fair, any man can be safely considered a rapist.

>>6029966
How could one vtuber be so based?

>>6056558
She will be doing well on her own and if she do collabs with somebody, it will be on her own terms

>Kson tweets something
>Vshojo vultures try to leech
>She doesn't reply
>LOOK GUYS IT'S CONFIRMED

OVER AND OVER
EVERY SINGLE DAY
MULTIPLE THREADS

IT'S TIME TO BAN VSHOJO FROM THIS BOARD

>>6057716
She's not replying to anyone to be more accurate. I think she is taking a vacation.

>>6057716
>IT'S TIME TO BAN VSHOJO FROM THIS BOARD
They are vtubers, so they're relevant to this board. Even if that makes you seethe so much.

>>6057985
They're on twitch, not YouTube. They're not vtubers. They don't belong on this board.

>>6034413
But many of them built their own popularity tho? For a long time matsuri etc. were about as big as hololivers as their previous twitcasting or NND activities, they worked under the hololive name and made it big

>>6026867
>shitty bubble by only hiring whores and hypocrites.
in other words they hire woman. And water is wet

>>6058282
The fame of the vast majority of hololivers was built more on coincidences and other members rather than their own strength. Then because its a brand people just latched on for tribal purposes. People like Noel and Aki would have died out long ago otherwise.

What really launched hololive was Korone making it big (for some reason) and more importantly Fubuki going viral a few times which drew people into hololive in the first place. And Fubuki was only able to do that largely due to Sora being one of the bigger ones of the 3rd wave of vtubers. Sora wasn't really able to do more than getting that niche following, but it was enough to provide Fubuki a stage for her memes. And things just snowballed from there with brand loyalty and other bullshit, then covid happened and people had too much free time and hololive just happened to be the big brand at the time people were looking for something to latch onto.
While Gura is currently big, she's mostly just riding from hololive's peak popularity during the pandemic wave.

That's not to belittle anyone's work really, because they all stream a ton and work as hard as any other streamers. But their hard work in building their own popularity isn't really everyone's equal hard work, it was really Fubuki and Sora getting a snowball started and everyone else getting lucky enough to get wrapped up in it.

I'm a vtuber historian and you can trust me.

>>6020563
Whores get along with other whores
What's new?

>>6058741
Yeah, but Cover somehow managed to find the ones willing to be able to subject themselves to contracts.
Otherwise you get ones like TTS dragon and the spergout on january 6th.

>>6058907
>noooooo anything but milquetoast entirely uncontroversial normie political opinions!
please stop shaking, it's been over half a year

>>6058799
I trust you but in all fairness early hololive, including Fubuki, wasn't really doing anything too different from the other vtubers either. Going viral still requires luck and Fubuki had it.

>>6058966
>shaking
Gamergate!
Anon, that shit should be left to your private account. Unless it's your shtick, like that one politics vtuber, your work account should be left to your work stuff.

>>6059158
>work account
she's just a twitch streamer with an anime avatar dude

>>6058239
They have channels on youtube. Under that stupid premise of yours, Miko shouldn't be discussed on /vt/ because she has a channel on twitch. Seethe more, you wannabe janitor.

>>6059049
Yeah, someone had to get lucky and it happened to be hololive.
While Cover is an incompetent fuck up, they were at least capable enough to capitalize on their sudden popularity and it paid off so far.

The big thing I think is notable is they're not really doing that much with. If you look at someone like Nijisanji, they're branching out into a ton of new fields and branches spreading out into other fields than just idolfagging, at least a few of them are using it to double as seiyuus as well. Cover stuck to idolfagging, and its not going to pay off for them because frankly their talents aren't interesting enough to make it work.

>>6059217
>just a twitch streamer with an anime avatar
>just
Why not simply drop the avatar then? The politics vtuber I'm referencing says that the only reason she uses her avatar is for security, that she would drop the avatar if that were a smart thing to do in the internet of today. Her content (and VShojo's, according to you) wouldn't suffer from it (except from Ironmouse, who literally needs the avatar).

>>6059487
>at least a few of them are using it to double as seiyuus as well
Didn't the one who wanted to be a seiyuu quit Nijisanji because of that?

>>6059541
alright dude i'm going to suggest just ignoring twitter entirely if you keep having meltdowns over even the most uncontroversial political opinions before you pop a vein

>>6059601
maybe? I want to say hoshikawa did a character somewhere too, but I might be confused.
considering some of the other things nijis have done, it would be kinda weird for them to have an outright ban on being a side seiyuu anyways. most of them have full time jobs on the side anyways.

>>6059604
So, you're saying to ignore what they say in their official platforms? Dunno, sounds like a recipe for disaster.

>>6059487
I don't really see all this new stuff Niji is branching out into. Vtuber school is the only real initiative I can see that is different from them, otherwise they're still just doing what they've done so far only on a bigger scale.

>>6059756
>most of them have full time jobs on the side anyways
Yeah, isn't one of them studying to be a doctor or something? My point is that for most of them, streaming is the side-gig. Even when the company in general helps them (the group of vtubers) branch out and appear in more fields, it shows. At least that's my opinion. Cover idolfagging is similar to the celebrity worship of the west, which I feel is more relatable, even if idol culture has a lot of baggage.

>>6058799
Missing out the azur lane [English] collab, which gave a huge EOP awareness that hololive existed. This was timed right before Gen 4 debuted too, those who only just started finding out about Vtubers watching clips clung onto those debuting because Coco was so different to the others and really fed EOP pandering humor. Haato also started to do weirder streams around that time, she used to be a lot more "idol-like" back in 2019.

Fubuki going viral and Korone getting popular combined with the EOP influx from that collab leading into Gen 4 is what started Hololives huge popularity boost. Towa who didn't take part with Asacoco initially (don't know if she ever did the humor for that grew old quick) had sub counts barely higher than the more popular niji's who debuted a short while before her until covid.

Cover has been heavily riding a growing wave of popularity and just like Kizuna AI, after a while that wave is going to crash and the casual interest will die off.

>>6020563
she was asking remix or something so i just put this together ? ?
https://soundcloud.com/ss-ss-tm/gushblepmuktaksif

>>6061314
Towa got fucked over because she had an incident during one of her early streams where her boyfriend could be heard over the mic and a bunch of random speculation started happening so she got put in time out right after debut, also getting banned from collabs for a time.

i have no idea what you guys are talking about has to do with

She wouldn’t fit vshojo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylj6RJy9TlE

>>6061664
>boyfriend
It was clearly people who were coaching her over VC. If you invert Towa's BGM on the clip you can hear it pretty clearly.

>>6062667
Jokes aside, it was more commonly believed to be her old gaming mates from her roommate's streaming days who were throwing the games to make her look good.

>>6057985
They're wannabes latching onto a trend and taking advantage of 12 year olds and normalfags who can't tell the fucking difference, is what's up.

>>6020563

>>6026184
Mowten Doo will suffer for his betrayal of weeb kind

>>6056475
Remember your reading comprehension reps. I said that Noel was an example of an already popular streamer who could survive without Hololive. Also I said 'majority' of them want to be idols. You can't understand her anyway so why should it bother you

>>6058799
That and clipping became an insane algorithm monster for promotion after the matsuri bandaid thing took off. I remember when it got a million views before a lot of the holos

>>6063395
Clipping is one of those reasons I'm still not a fan of everyone constantly streaming, the vast majority of streams are just empty noise and pointless chatter. Its fine on occasion where they can audience interaction, but when they do it every day as their primary content its a chore to go through.

I miss the old days where they just made nice small 5-20 minute vids you can watch and get the full enjoyment out of.

>>6029859
>Her only crime is having a gay pride symbol
For that alone I'll seek capital punishment.

>>6025508
Post any source

>>6021630
shut up about her voice it's fake, any female can put on a sexy voice if they wanted to do it
https://files.catbox.moe/iuz0za.mp4

>>6030165
unless hitomi chris was the one talking to her, she's just spouting typical fuck idols bullshit

>>6042196

>>6042196
Pro censorship SJW scum.

>>6065744
Have you forgotten the CN branch got graduated too?

>>6065971
And Veibae has a mastery of chinese, right? Even then, her only option would've been Artia, who had a mental collapse live on stream.

>>6065971
This was right after Aloe's graduation and before September 27th. Aloe was in the hospital when she said that.

>>6065971
she talked shit before any of that happened

A lot of Chinese hurt feelings in this thread

>>6021630
Something something period.