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Celebrations Edition

>> No.5985058

Fubuki over 20k is always nice.

>> No.5985101

Wow, this is the first time I actually see Mito beat all Kuzuha's stream

>> No.5985116

Previous thread
>>5957945

>> No.5985140

Reminder that every single one of the top 5 most superchatted vtuber streams ever were in the past month

>> No.5985146

>>5985058
Fubuki getting as many views as marine is sus

>> No.5985169

>>5985146
1.5 million celebration, and she's doing a minecraft RTA, that always gets good views

>> No.5985251

Looks like Nijisanji won today so I'm a nijifag again. I think the Hololive 3rd gen live is tomorrow so I will be forced to be a holofag tomorrow. Not sure about Sunday.

>> No.5985328
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>>5985146
Fubuki is the new number queen again

>> No.5985349

>>5985169
what's an RTA?

>> No.5985367

>>5985349
A type of speedrun, she's trying to kill the ender dragon as fast as possible

>> No.5985373

>>5985328
Im always surprised how much people stay to Pekora´s and Marine´s SC reading

>> No.5985398

>>5985349
Real Time Attack, some sort of speedrun or something

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In other news...

>> No.5985408

Watame #3 is nice.

>> No.5985563

>>5985367
>>5985398
thanks
Minecraft speedruns have become huge and i didn't know their was a Japanese term

>> No.5985581

>>5985409
So this is the much vaunted birthday boost?

>> No.5985602

>>5985101
TICK TOCK
Budget Kaneki

>> No.5985785

>>5984912
No more 30k+ on regular streams?
Live streaming is reclining.

>> No.5985837

>>5985101
>>5985602
>streams debuff games late at night
>has no EOP/third worlder audience to make up for it unlike hololive
>still gets 17k
You should kneel to him before it's too late. He's the KING of vtubers.

>> No.5985881

>>5984912
We're in the post Coco era. I fucking hate it. It's all downhill from here. No more Coco mogging and no more numberfagging for me. I retire.

>> No.5986053

>>5984912
This is a hololive without Coco. The base has been streaped apart and everything else wil eventually come tumbling down.

>> No.5986150

>>5986053
This. hololive without Coco is like eating curry rice without any plates. Holobros, how do You cope knowing that from now onwards, you will be eating from the floor like the nijidogs?

>> No.5986261

>>5985881
>>5986053
>>5986150
All me btw

>> No.5986284

>>5985409
WUT? Kizuna picked up 10K

>> No.5986338

>>5985881
Good. We don't want you anyway. Gura is the next queen

>> No.5986345

>>5986261
That goes without saying

>> No.5986379
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>>5985563
It's a western term that was used to differentiate full game runs from segmented runs or individual level runs. Apparently the japanese thought RTA encompassed any speedrun (or idk if that's just the case today)

>> No.5986449

>>5986284
It took her three months to do that so go figure.

>> No.5986453

>>5985581
It was a paid bday concert.
Don’t know whose bright idea that was.

>> No.5986474

>>5986261
Fucking Nigger. Do not falsflagg with fucking my posts. That's my premium cope your taking credit of.

>> No.5986534

>>5985101
her clickbait title had all the dramafags fear and come watch if she was going to graduate too

>> No.5986542

>>5985563
>i didn't know their was a Japanese term
>>5986379
>It's a western term that was used to differentiate full game runs from segmented runs or individual level runs.
Yeah, "real time attack", to differentiate from speedruns that people can pause. Real life clock is the clock that counts, game time must pass at 1x

>> No.5986935

>>5986453
So, how was it's numbers, the birthday I mean?

>> No.5986968

>>5986534
So, what was her stream was about?
Was it serious or just plain clickbait?

>> No.5987039

>>5986935
Can't be counted unfortunately. Hiding the only hundreds of viewers that she has left. $50 for a birthday concert is a scam

>> No.5987089

are japs legit retarded? that ibrahim 3d was clearly prerecorded, you could see the cuts. yet, they still threw 140k$+ at this embarassment.
i would somewhat get it, if he was gambling live, but the 3rd(?) highest superchatted stream in vtubing history basically was a premiered video
though, coco graduation is not much different in that regard, but the live portion was bigger. and the content obviously was miles more better and significant. weird times we live in.

>> No.5987215

>>5986968
she announced a solo event in november

>> No.5987293

>>5987215
Isn't she mostly a solo act anyway?

>> No.5987354

>>5987215
>November
Then why does she feel the need to announce this early after 2 recent graduations?

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Reminder

>> No.5987507

>>5987354
I wonder about this too, November is still months away so it's strange she announce it now, don't want to sound rude but is she trying to use the recent graduations for clout on her solo?

>> No.5988104

>>5986449
Moreso a month.

>>5986453
Ai's birthday lives have pretty much always been for her core fanbase.

>> No.5988303

>>5987089
youre assuming that the stream had donation incentives. it didnt. donation incentives are like fuwas "SC to raise the champagne tower" or tomoes "red SC to make a red carpet"

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>>5988303
>fuwas "SC to raise the champagne tower" or tomoes "red SC to make a red carpet"
That’s shameless as fuck. They don’t even pretend with the whole “only donate what you can, think about yourself first” stitch?

>> No.5989143

>>5989004
It’s a fun thing for people who want to sc in the first place, you don’t have to if you don’t want to anon

>> No.5989220

>>5987507
Cocofags will never care about her and Lulufags had every oportunity to go to her and rarely did. She probably thinks nothing of the former and not too much of the latter.

>> No.5989255

>>5989143
Stop replying to the iToddler

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Not even the debuffiest of the games can stop the usagi

>> No.5989511

>>5989406
Pegors is really powerful

>> No.5989688

>>5989406
Only lost out to the fox, not bad.

>> No.5989739

>>5989511
>>5989688
She peaked higher tho

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Luna kind of surprised me here: good numbers for a PriConne stream. Sponsored?

>> No.5990452

>>5984912
>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQz5mRHdiwt7NrS9tc4D1Dg
This is missing Kanon. Her stream had 14k+ viewers today, when I caught it.

>> No.5990730

How do I cope knowing that there will no longer be anymore Coco mogging.

>Coco 2 release date when?
>Meme review 2 when?
>Asacoco 4.0 itsu?

Hololive will never be the same. Even Miko had a hard streaming that stickmin game. hololive stream enthusiasm will continue to plummet. Motivation will sink. It's over bros. The final yab us fast approaching.

>> No.5990796

>>5989853
No, rolling gacha.

>> No.5991275

Everyone posts these retarded pics, but vshojo regularly dabs on all of them. Even their uploaded VODs and shorts no youtube completely blow up hololive.

>> No.5991792

>>5991275
You like to make these claims but have yet to provide proof of merit. Until you do -and I doubt you will (but hope to be wrong)- no one will take you seriously.

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>>5991792

>> No.5992324
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>>5991914
>3 years vs. 1 week

>> No.5992561

>>5991914
Wow, RIP in 9 months has more views (21.5 million) than the two highest Nyaners videos, one of which was uploaded six fucking years ago.
Hololive wins yet again.

>> No.5992585

>>5991914
Those are song covers, not VODs you fucking retard. Not to mention some of these are from years ago. We know what Vshojos live viewer numbers are.

>> No.5992820

>>5991914
Anon, at the rate that Gura's Reflect currently gains views (175k~225k daily), it would overtake 'Seiso' before its 1 month, and shortly after that same time will likely overtake 'Nyanaconda'. Understand that those covers will be measured in years time fairly soon, which makes me wonder how much will Reflect grow view-wise by the same timeframe.

>> No.5992904

Does anyone have any data about how many viewers vtubers on bilibili usually get? I'm curious if vtubers are still popular in China or not.

>> No.5992955

>>5992904
All data from Bilibili is worthless because they measure activity score and not live viewership.
They use some formula that's not known to the public to measure activity score.

>> No.5992993

>>5992324
>>5992561
Cope

>> No.5993106

>>5991914
Vhoechama...

>> No.5993170

>>5992955
Don't forget that people can actually pay to boost said score.

>> No.5993248

>>5985409
When a channel reaches the first million subscribers, YouTube only changes the numbers after the channel accumulates 10k subscribers. That's the weird jump.

>> No.5993566

>>5990796
Gacha's power is no joke. Also, it's still hard to tell for sure, but I'd guess 4th gen will be running on a minor temporary boost after all the exposure they got from Coco's graduation.

>> No.5993629

>>5989406
>tfw 25k seems kinda low
man, people really don't like seeing Pekora play Danganronpa huh?

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Coco's final member's post has 20k likes, holy shit

>> No.5996601

>>5991914
>6 years ago
lmao

>> No.5998558

>>5996380
I wonder if anyone counted the new members this last month

>> No.6001366

>>5993629
they can only play chapter 1 and its a older VN.

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How come Bahroo is the only person that ever shows up on these lists

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>>6001433
Anon, there's 24 other streamers on that list. That said, Bahroo simply has a loyal/consistent viewer base that allows him to sit on the rankings even when the threshold goes bonkers at times.

Pic related: Bahroo's data out to three months.
Source: https://twitchtracker.com/admiralbahroo

>> No.6007114

>>6007088
Yea my ESL hit me hard, I meant, why is he so consistently on the list.

>> No.6008075

>>6001433
Bahroo had a built up fanbase before jumping on the vtuber fad, adding him to the site is just another reason why the vnuma owner is a retard.

>> No.6008800

Any predictions on 3rd gen's concert?

The base audience numbers for each member are as follow:
Pekora = 27k
Rushia = 9k
Flare = 6k
Noel = 7k
Marine = 23k
https://holo.poi.cat/

So they should get at least 72k.
If we add the factor of time and date, this event is on Saturday, 9 p.m.
JST, so it should get a lot of prime time boost.
72k base + 40k box boost + 20% tourism boost = 130k peak.
I'll be happy to be proven wrong.

>> No.6008980

>>6008800
>72k base + 40k box boost + 20% tourism boost = 130k peak.
Would honestly be surprised if it cracks 110k because 3D concerts for Holos have always been consistently in the 70k to 100k range, eventho Gen 3 is the most popular JP gen. The fact that Marine mentioned before that it is pre-recorded may also affect the hype, not that it really makes a difference since they never interact with chat in 3D streams anyways.
Just for comparison, Kanata's mega collab concert peaked at 97k and Aqua's solo concert peaked at 100k. Suisei's 4th concert surprisingly underperformed at only a 68k peak, but it was so kino.
It'll be the most watched stream of the day regardless.

>> No.6009059

>>6008980
No events for nijisanji this day?

>> No.6009115

>>6008800
270k peak. Just look at Coco, tourist boost isn't just mere 20% and box boost is like at least 100k

>> No.6009231

>>6009115
Noel had her 1 mil celebration live concert last week and got 76k peak. Now Noel is obviously not on Marine's level of popularity or singing ability, and there's more hype for this concert because it's marketed as a gen 3 concert. But 270k is a very ambitious prediction when the most viewed Holo 3D stream prior to Coco is ~100k.

>> No.6009285

>>6009115
Hololive is on its decline now that Coco is gone, you underestimate the amount of fans that would have left along with her.

>> No.6009456

>>6009115
That's insane.
This is a 3D concert stream, not a graduation stream.

>> No.6009477

>>6009285
>Hololive is on its decline
its a bit soon to make a call either way but yesterday nummbers really don't make it seem that way

>> No.6009544

>>6009231
>>6009285
Nah, more people will care about box event now because of Coco's graduation stream, just like how members like Fubuki is casually getting 20k+ viewers now.

>> No.6009658

>>6009285
imagine being this delusional

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>>6008800
gen 3 collab hmm probably around 70k-110k

>> No.6009703

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1411165824820281354

This is pretty funny. They are nerfing their 3D concert stream numbers by explicitly telling everyone it is pre-recorded. All because Pekora and Marine want to still stream during primetime today and not look suspicious starting right after the concert ends.

>>6009544
>members like Fubuki is casually getting 20k+ viewers now.
Fubuki was doing a minecraft RTA stream for her 1.5 mil subs celebration stream. Minecraft + 1.5 mil subs celebration buff.

>> No.6009734

>>5988303
>"SC to raise the champagne tower" or tomoes "red SC to make a red carpet"
Fucking abhorrent. No shit they made bank.

>> No.6009782

>>6009544
I don't think so, Numbers yesterday was the same as numbers 4 days ago

>>5984912
>>5820366
Its actually looks better for holo when you factor in that yesterday pekora marine fubuki and miko were streaming all at the same time.

>> No.6009869

>>6009782
Fucked up the numbers.
Yesterdays numbers >>5984912
4 days ago >>5820336

>> No.6009901

>>6009703
>for her 1.5 mil subs celebration stream
no, it was a mc endurance stream no a celebration stream

>> No.6010103

>>6009901
My bad, endurance to 1.5mil is what I meant.

>> No.6010396

>>6008980
> pre-recorded
Ah..., what's the point of watching it live, then?

Kanata's mega collab went up and down depending on the cameos.
It would have broken 110k if everyone were on the stage.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/aPHng8urnYY

Aqua's concert had a lot of hype, she even stopped streaming for a few weeks.
Her base number is around 14k,
so reaching 100k meant that she got a lot of tourists.

Suisei's number went up when the holoband showed up,
and then people lost interest after that.
Her base audience at the time was around 9k for regular streams and 20k for singing streams,
so 68k checked out.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Ajwv4ANSSg0

>> No.6010399

>>6009115
Hololive 3d hardly surpass 130k. Depend on what in the live, i think it may be reach 150k.

>> No.6010441

>>6010396
>what's the point of watching it live
cause I want to?

>> No.6010510

>>6009658
>nijjers yesterday
Coco has no real fans, especially not Japanese ones
>nijjers today
Coco has lots of fans and her leaving means hololive is ruined

>> No.6010559

>>6010510
yeah, they are pretty stupid

>> No.6010587

>>6010510
Not contradictory, most of the hololive fanbase that watch the holoJP girls aren't Japanese and losing most of them thanks to Coco leaving will severely impact numbers moving forward.

>> No.6010743

>>6010587
>most of the hololive fanbase that watch the holoJP girls aren't Japanese
sure anon, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

>> No.6010813

>>6010587
lmao

>> No.6010817

>>6010587
>most of the hololive fanbase that watch the holoJP girls aren't Japanese and losing most of them thanks to Coco leaving will severely impact numbers moving forward.
It's too bad there's no ids on /vt/ so we can prove how retarded you are for thinking this with numbers 2 months from now. Literally no one's numbers will be affected by Coco's departure because the people who were watching the girls before won't stop because Coco left.

>> No.6010955

>>6010587
Do you know you sound stupid right now?

>> No.6011136 [DELETED] 

>>6010396
>Ah..., what's the point of watching it live, then?
Literally makes no difference because no one interacts with chat during a 3D stream anyways. Kanata's stream also had pre-recorded segments too.

>Aqua's concert had a lot of hype, she even stopped streaming for a few weeks.
Her base number is around 14k,
so reaching 100k meant that she got a lot of tourists.
Aqua is literally one of the most popular holomembers. Her average numbers are actually closer to 20k during her solo Apex arc. Her return karaoke had 55k viewers so I wouldn't say most of the people who tuned into her 3D concert were tourists, Aqua is actually popular unlike 2k watcher Nijis who get 100k during 3D debuts.

>Suisei's number went up when the holoband showed up, and then people lost interest after that.
Her base audience at the time was around 9k for regular streams and 20k for singing streams,
so 68k checked out.
If you watched the concert then you would remember that after Holoband, youtube crapped out. Everyone was confused about wtf was going on when the stream was a loading screen for 10 minutes and many checked out. When the stream returned, the momentum was lost. It wasn't because people lost interest per say, it was Susan fucking Hololive again. 68k is an underperformance for Suisei because she got 96k for her 3rd 3D live in Oct 2020. However, keep in mind that this was before the Dec 2020 change in how youtube counts viewers, so idk if she actually reclined. Personally the 4th live was better than the 3rd so it's a bit of shame.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JNmmnB4bP0M

>> No.6011234

>>6010396
>Ah..., what's the point of watching it live, then?
Literally makes no difference because no one interacts with chat during a 3D stream anyways. Kanata's stream also had pre-recorded segments too.

>Aqua's concert had a lot of hype, she even stopped streaming for a few weeks.Her base number is around 14k,so reaching 100k meant that she got a lot of tourists.
Aqua is literally one of the most popular holomembers. Her average numbers are actually closer to 20k during her solo Apex arc. Her return karaoke had 55k viewers so I wouldn't say most of the people who tuned into her 3D concert were tourists, Aqua is actually popular unlike 2k watcher Nijis who get 100k during 3D debuts.

>Suisei's number went up when the holoband showed up, and then people lost interest after that.Her base audience at the time was around 9k for regular streams and 20k for singing streams, so 68k checked out.
If you watched the concert then you would remember that after Holoband, youtube crapped out. Everyone was confused about wtf was going on when the stream was a loading screen for 10 minutes and many checked out. When the stream returned, the momentum was lost. It wasn't because people lost interest per say, it was Susan fucking Hololive again. 68k is an underperformance for Suisei because she got 96k for her 3rd 3D live in Oct 2020. However, keep in mind that this was before the Dec 2020 change in how youtube counts viewers, so idk if she actually reclined. Personally the 4th live was better than the 3rd so it's a bit of shame.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/JNmmnB4bP0M

>> No.6011436

>>6010587
Coco on a good day would have 3k live viewers watching whatever she does. It only goes up when she's collabing or doing a meme stream like reddit. This has been a thing even before the taiwan yab. The people that watch Aqua still watch her. Much like Pekora, Rushia, Miko, Marine and other heavy hitters. Those girls have predominantly Japanese commenters on live chat as well. Whatever EOP they would get are all on top of that. It has always been like that. Even Coco got $186k in nip money alone in her graduation live opposed to the $144k overall EOP she got. Even the Top 25 is still the same with Ibrahim topping because he did a 3D live and only because of that. It is still going to be 4 or less Nijis, 1 Bahroo, 1 Hal and the rest are Hololive.

>> No.6011671

1 Million Club

1. Gura (Oct 22, 2020)
2. Korone (Nov 1, 2020)
3. Fubuki (Nov 5, 2020)
4. Pekora (Dec 4, 2020)
5. Aqua (Jan 13, 2021)
6. Marine (Jan 18, 2021)
7. Calli (Jan 25, 2021)
8. Haachama (Feb 10, 2021)
9. Amelia (Feb 11, 2021)
10. Coco (Feb 17, 2021)
11. Rushia (Mar 2, 2021)
12. Noel (Apr 12, 2021)
13. Okayu (Apr 17, 2021)
14. Miko (Apr 30, 2021)
15. Ina (May 27, 2021)
16. Kiara (May 30, 2021)
17. Matsuri (Jun 1, 2021)
18. Suisei (Jun 26, 2021)
19. Subaru (Jul 2, 2021)

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>>6011234
>Astonishingly based paragraph poster.

>> No.6012772

>>6009059
There's the pachinko tournament, not in official channel though.

>> No.6012790

>>6011671
The next one to two mil is probably Mori right? Around 5 months to get there?

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>>5991914
>6 year old cover
>Not even half of RIP, an 8 month old song
the abosolute state of nyancucks

>> No.6013091

>>6012772
For a sponsored event, its kind of stupid they don't stream it on primetime for better numbers.

>> No.6013393

>>6013091
It's not a"sponsored" event, just a fun "not gambling" time. In all seriousness, they start early because each block is 2 hours long, and there are 4 blocks today.

>> No.6013748

>>6013393
so like a relay? they're getting good numbers

>> No.6014252

>>6012790
Yes. Should be before the end of the year. Ame will likely be above 1.5M and might even be above at least two other Holos. Maybe.

>> No.6014474

>>6014252
Wonder if she has an EP planned in a few months. Would probably accelerate her in a bit.

The question is if Mori's 2m can beat Gura's 4m.

>> No.6015412

Ok numberbros, what would a theoretical wakipai review from Wataoji and Nenechi get in the old meme reviews previous slot? Would it be a possible contender to replace meme review as Hololive's premiere weekend stream?

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YouTube pruning some dead subs?

>> No.6015749

>>6015605
Parsing accounts for spam/bots.

>> No.6015752

I say, after Coco's number breaking records, this thread seem to have died like even today where a Niji 3D event has been made, normally the Nijifags will use the numbers to boast against the Holofags and the Holofags will do everything to cope, but for some reason it is too silent in this thread

>> No.6015818

>>6015752
It's just impossible to surpass Coco's record at this point. There's just no point talking about it.

>> No.6015856

>>6015752
Because there's gonna be a Marine 3D live event in the evening and as usual, high numbers, on top of evangelion reveal or something like that. Nijis are getting around 10-35k at the moment.

>> No.6015904

>>6015856
What are the event of the Nijis at this moment?

>> No.6015906

>>6015752
I noticed it too. The numbers thread is not as active as it used to be. Coco is gone. Vnuma is pretty much dead as well. Numberfags might never recover.

>> No.6015963

>>6015906
And Gura just surpassed AI, I guess the Chumkek numberfags lost their purpose too

>> No.6015980

>>6015605
This is a hololive without Coco. The fans are already leaving it seems. Meanwhile Kson will overtake all of Nijisanji and half of hololive.

>> No.6015999

>>6015904
Pachinko event I think Idk I got bored in the first 5 minutes

>> No.6016016

>>6015999
What’s with nips and pachinko? It looks addictive as fuck (pretty much a human Skinner box) but it has zero entertainment value for an audience.

>> No.6016033

>>6015980
What are you on about. Subaru has 18k live viewers for a JP game right now. Most of the people watching are nips. If Kanata bring reddit back. That will surely bring the same numbers Coco brought during her old timeslot.

>> No.6016074

>>6016033
Let them be anon, they are just coping from Coco's graduation

>> No.6016100

>>6016033
does kanata know english?

>> No.6016109

>>6016033
The only thing matching her numbers is this fucking pachinko event. Nobody is even breaking 30k. Pathetic

>> No.6016110
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Subaru dominating the early hours. Also
>what’s with Flare numbers
Undertale is this hard of a debuff?

>> No.6016163

>>6016100
She does to a certain degree. It's going to be like Henry Stickmin. A lot of the jokes will be go right pass her but nobody will care because of nostalgia. Another thing is that Marine did a meme review and it was great. She chose what she thought was cute and made her laugh. Kanata will probably do the same.

>> No.6016243

>>6016110
Nah it's because she already played the shit out of it. Right now she's replaying it again on Switch and I don't think the viewership will increase until she gets into the new stuff added on Switch version.

>> No.6016351

>>6015752
Nah, it's vnuma dying. There's only really like, one or two genuine nijifans here, and they don't come to the numbers thread because they just get routinely shat on. The ones in here who boast about niji numbers are the same kind of people who boast about sodapopin or AO, they don't really care about the nijis so much as they care about the numbers they achieve so they can shit on the board. Without vnuma they can't get those numbers anymore so of course they'll be quiet.

>> No.6016360

>>6016110
As much as I like Flare, I always feel like she is a 2nd choice streamer, She's good alone but if someone else better is streaming her viewers always go to these numbers. She is doing fine though, she ranks high on SC

>> No.6016391

>>6016351
I'm actually waiting for the google trends anon to shit this thread again its always hilarious how he tries to manipulate his numbers

>> No.6016434

>>6015906
>>6016351
>Vnuma dead
Why is Vnuma dead?
what update that the owner made to kill it?

>> No.6016438

>>6016110
Flare is a dumbass who thinks Undertale attracts the 'Obashees Brazzaz'. She lost her chance by not appearing in any shitpost reviews. Dumb bitch.

>> No.6016484

>>6016438
for some retarded reason she once played GTA over the meme review timeslot instead of appearing in meme review. I have no idea what she's doing

>> No.6016578

>>6016016
Same reason as why gacha streams are popular.

>> No.6016591

>>6016110
The undertale hype at this point is kinda long gone. For Flare, what people want to see most is her playing Minecraft with Shiranui kensetsu or GTA online with Miko and Suisei. Her playing Undertale again after she famously beat the shit out of Sans 4 times in 1 stream isn't as hype. But eh, many girl Nijis would kill for 6k viewers.

>> No.6016593
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>>6016391
guys a retard tourist that he had to do a Japanese trend for a topic when its literally the same thing for English. Just let them seethe. Top 10 in Japan btw

>> No.6016632

>>6016593
>490k
>japan
third of those are chinksects and another third is reddit

>> No.6016663

>>6016632
Crawl back to your squatter's den

>> No.6016679 [DELETED] 

>>6016351
>it's vnuma dying
VNUMA works if you use the mobile version

https://vnuma.net/en/trend/

>> No.6016682

>>6016591
She is inclining a bit since Shiranui started, her partnership with polka is great.

>>6016632
Speak and the devil will come! How's your day faggot, did you have fun masturbating to your own delusional fantasies?

>> No.6016717

>>6016679
No actually it just got back up after being dead for a good twelve hours

>> No.6016723

>>6016663
cope holobrony
once coco starts doing reddit views for her vshojo life holowhores will go back to their deserved irrelevance

>> No.6016740

>>5986150
>Holobros, how do You cope knowing that from now onwards, you will be eating from the floor like the nijidogs?

Nijisanji doesn't work like that you retarded nigga. Every niji liver has a contained fanbase. Meaning that no matter who leaves/graduates, won't change or affect anything.

>> No.6016745

>>6016723
bring out sodapoppin again, you know you want to

>> No.6016758

>>6016679
Delete that, the dumbasses don't know that yet

>> No.6016775

>>6016682
Ya and Flare usually streams MC late at night when her only competition is Watame. When she partners up with Shiraken members, she can get like 20k sometimes. It's great that she's finding something to build her identity around instead of being only known as "Noel's lover". I feel like that's something she's always struggled with.

>> No.6016784

>>6016682
cope. reddit had 150k online during coco grad.

>> No.6016786

>>6016723
Bring up the google trends anon you know I like to see that, Cmon make Daddy proud.

>> No.6016893

>>6016717
Nope. I have been using it for the sum of 8 hours on my end. You need to use the specific address for mobile versions to load... unless I was somehow lucky to get feedback through the maintenance process.

>> No.6016919

>>6016758
o-okay

I just realized what I did.

>> No.6016961

>>6016632
Numbers are numbers. Nobody gives a shit where they're from. >Nijisanji has their tourists buff.
>Hololive has taiwan buff, reddit buff and china bots buff.

>> No.6016962
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Sad day for holoshit

>> No.6017031

>>6016775
Flare also has this issue where she tried to radically reinvent her character to be more moe rather than the cool tomboy ish beauty she started out as, which makes it such that she doesn't have much of a core identity of her own

>> No.6017127

>>6016919
And the thread shitters are here now. Its ok, I get a boner for time loops in hlg and shitty analysis in numbers. The thought of them trying so hard to make me believe them is making me hard.

>>6017031
I think she is just shy. When she just debuted she was always the quite one on collabs. Being in Bakatare and with polka made her come out of her shell.

>> No.6017157

>>6016962
Imagine setting yourself for embarrassment once the day resets and Marine's concert blows the crap out of the pachinko Niji streams. We'll see in 4 hours.

>> No.6017183

>>6017157
it will be 100% prerecorded so it doesnt count
should be classified as a premiere, not a live.

>> No.6017192

>>6017031
I would say the whole ikemen, tomboy persona kinda cornered her into the role of "Noel's bf" and she was tired of playing that part. She's come out and said multiple times since then that she's much happier being herself and likes her new moe design more to the point where she'll never use her old design again. I enjoy her streams much more after the costume change ngl.

>> No.6017228

>>6017192
So now shes just another generic moeblob, got it

>> No.6017235

>>6016962
Gen 3 3D live will topple everything there. Might even get Ruru graduation numbers.

>> No.6017257

>>6016961
TouristSanji. LMAO.

>> No.6017299

holoshit already seething LOL

>> No.6017304

>>6017183
>should be classified as a premiere, not a live.
It won't be classified as a premiere by VNUMA and imo premieres should be included anyways. There's no reason not to include them.

>> No.6017339

>>6016110
Looking at that pic, I'm shocked how bad Flare's number was when compared to Amelia getting 8k+ on like the 15th Oblivion episode.

>> No.6017428

>>6017192
>I would say the whole ikemen, tomboy persona kinda cornered her into the role of "Noel's bf" and she was tired of playing that part
Yup, being the titular character of the “Flare’s harem” arc took a toll on her because, much like on anime, the guy in this role, instead of the protagonist, is the irrelevant side character to set off the “best girls war”.

>> No.6017864

>>6017339
>15th oblivion stream
Is that game really popular that she keeps on streaming it?

>> No.6017917

>>6017864
For me at least, it's part of my childhood and still much more entertaining to me that skyrim, so I imagine it's the same for a lot of people. Also it's good stream game, unlike a lot of JRPGs it's much easier to jump into the 13th stream without knowing what's going on.

>> No.6018245

>>6017864
Oblivion is a pretty big debuff game at this point and Ame knows it, but she loves streaming it so she does them as late night guerillas. She's definitely doing it for her own enjoyment and teamates who like watching them, not for numbers.

>> No.6018425

>>6017192
And that's is the core of her problems with popularity. While she's adopted more moeish mannerisms and design elements, her design is still heavily leaning towards the ikemen tomboy side, and this is what people expect from her. Her refusal to play into that aspect of her character is costing her grwoth, as evidenced by the absolutely abysmal numbers her original song has gotten.

>> No.6018490

>>6018245
Eh, debuff it may be, she's still getting 6-8k for it which is not really that much lower than the 13k ish she gets when she plays her buff games like Apex, so there's clearly an audience for it. Compare it to Kiara getting anywhere between 2k and 15k depending on what game she's playing.

>> No.6018613

>>6018425
>costing her grwoth
She optimized for SuperChat growth and there is no question it is massive for her in absolute and relative numbers

>> No.6019215

>>6018425
>While she's adopted more moeish mannerisms and design elements, her design is still heavily leaning towards the ikemen tomboy side, and this is what people expect from her. Her refusal to play into that aspect of her character is costing her grwoth, as evidenced by the absolutely abysmal numbers her original song has gotten.
I don't think it's as big as factor as you're making it. Flare's numbers are inclining compared to a year ago and she has found her niche in minecraft. Smile and Go just isn't a very unique song and Flare, despite being a decent singer, has never had good numbers for her covers either. Poor girl is just cursed by numbers. She easily mogs Roboco in viewership numbers every night but somehow gets outpaced by her in sub growth.

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>>6017864
Believe it or not she actually likes that kusoge, she would stream it whether it got shit numbers or not.

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>>6019215
>but somehow gets outpaced by her in sub growth.
They're pretty much even now, with both inclining hard from April forward

>> No.6019640
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Soon

>> No.6019647

>>6009115
270k peak is absolutely delusional. 120k peak is possible though.

>> No.6019686

>>6019387
She could go crazy with popular FPS or story based games like Apex, Minecraft. RE Series or other games they had permissions off. I don't know why she's settling with platformers and oblivion.

>> No.6019732

>>6019640
I hope she doesn't hit 3M in her collab with Kiara

>> No.6019741

>>6019686
Because numbers aren't everything and she can still do very well for herself while playing the games she wants to

>> No.6019752

>>6019647
I kinda doubt it'll break out of 100K, probably 40~70K in my estimation

>> No.6019805

>>6019732
Oh, if that happens, I am pretty sure Kiara will force her to acknowledge it regardless if Gura feels uncomfortable or not

>> No.6019831

>>6019686
At this point, Amelia is smart enough to know she does the best with Minecraft and FPS games. She just isn't a numberfag so she'll rather play stuff she likes. If she was a true numberfag, she would be playing shit like RE8, Henry Stickmin, and other FOTM games instead of shit like Mario that filters a lot of EOPs. Even Gura struggles to get good numbers with Mario games.

>> No.6019874

where the fuck are the numbers? fuck vnuma

>> No.6019903

>>6019874
>he doesn't know
How new?

>> No.6019935

>>6019741
Just my opinion. I'm a teamate but I dislike watching platformers. I just don't get why she keeps playing them for months now. ffs She's been playing Mario, DKC and Oblivion since February or March.

>> No.6019963

>>6019752
40k for a gen3 concert? come on now. They got 100k+ playing super smash brothers together.

>> No.6019974

>>6019805
Well she should, the sooner Gura comes to terms with her numbers, the better. Burying her head in the sand and ignoring her milestones is a nice coping mechanism and all but it's going to bite her in the ass.

>> No.6019975
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Yesterday's superchats, Subaru's might not seem that big compared to the madness we've seen recently but it's over double her previous biggest and the 18th biggest ever from a current Hololive member. Honorable mention goes to Mito who made over $3k but just missed out on a strong top 12.

>> No.6020027

>>6019903
ive been using vnuma for months. which other sites are similar

>> No.6020122

>>6019975
Chicken's SC game is so strong. I'll never understand kfp.

>> No.6020161

>>6020027
Do archive reps for working link

>> No.6020257

>>6019963
Sorry, anon, but I always make my prediction conservatively

>> No.6020399

>>6020122
She spends an ungodly amount of hours reading every sc, it is basically her main content.

>> No.6020591

Mark my words this third gen concert going to break coco records and reach 500k live viewers.
They really got most popular generation to do a concert together it's going to be huge.

>> No.6020640

>>6020591
Here is me again: I retract this prediction, it is too far fetched that I cannot even falseflag with it without having second thoughts

>> No.6020699

>>6020640
Here is me again: I retract my retraction and double down, 1mil is the number baby! Any less and Pekora will break down

>> No.6020731

6020591

You are not even trying, anon.
Here's your first (You).

>> No.6020747

>>6020699
>>6020640
>>6020591
Meds, now.

>> No.6020767
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Who said Mito only got 21k yesterday because she baited people with the announcement again?

>> No.6020773

>>6020640
Don't falseflag as me faggot this shit is easily going to break coco records. I mean it's literality one coco vs the third gen it's an clean wipe and I'm not even kidding.

>> No.6020811

>>6020767
retards, manjisanji guy and eops

>> No.6020835

>>6020773
I'm not falseflagging anyone. I retracted my statement

>> No.6021086

>Pekora ends the stream early because she can't stand getting mogged by anyone
Oh no no no holobronies

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>>6020767
also mito

>> No.6021164

>>6021086
Post Vnuma Anon! Quick taunt me with the nijisanji numbers! I'm so close its only polite to finish me off.

>> No.6021186

>30k in waitroom
THE NUMBEEEEERS

>> No.6021203

>>6021086
meds

>> No.6021262
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6021262

Pekora got some 7M worth of VOD views unprivated today.
>mostly ARK

>> No.6021337

For a prerecorded stream, Cover's tech had improved a lot.

>> No.6021408

>>5985409
ganbare gura! you’re almost there! finish strong!

>> No.6021409
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>Kanata holding tight to her 13k viewers doing a watchalong
Smart numberfagging angel

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What's going on here? I checked some of the others as well and there were sub drops as well before whatever the cutoff holostats uses for "last day"

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>>6019752
>70K in my estimation
That's already blown from the opening alone

>> No.6021508

Why is it a stream anyway? Shouldn't it be premier because it's pre-recorded?

>> No.6021530

>>6021462
yt clean dead accounts from time to time

>> No.6021536

>>6021462
Likely regular subs purge, happens every once in a while.

>> No.6021611
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Noel should be prohibited from singing.
>90k approaching

>> No.6021660

It's going to break 100k

>> No.6021678

>>6021611
It is ok Anon. Not like she does this everyday, its a treat for everyone who also can't sing and just want to vibe

>> No.6021679

>>6021611
Don't stop someone from singing no matter how bad they are

>> No.6021698
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>Come on Kanata, release your 10k hostages!

>> No.6021745

100k in 15 mins. Looking pretty good, especially for prerecorded.

>> No.6021772

>enter flare
>stream declines

>> No.6021773

>>6021678
>>6021679
>Don't stop someone from singing no matter how bad they are
Yeah, nips share that sentiment, hence their passion for Karaoke.
Gotta give it to Noel
>at least she's not as bad as Jennifer Lopes when she started
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWDt25e29GQ

Goes to show that with training, passion and a lot of money in post production anyone can become a superstar

>> No.6021780

20 hour old number thread. Did coco fucking nuke this place and numberfags havent recovered yet

>> No.6021803

If she's sensible and left Peko for last that could have a really good spike when she comes on

>> No.6021848

>>6021780
they saw the peak of vtuber numberfagging so they were satisfied and fucked off

>> No.6021866

>>6021780
Well, these streams are nothing compared to Coco's so what's the point numberfagging it? These below 200k streams all feel like 5k streams now.

>> No.6021880

>>6021780
Her numbers were too strong... its just harder to numberfag knowing those numbers can't be beat anytime soon. Coco may have unironically crippled numberfagging.

>> No.6021884

Predictions for peak? Presumably on ahoy or a full gen SSS?

>> No.6021888
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>easy 100k

>> No.6021918

>>6021884
150k

>> No.6021960

Where's the pachinko nijifags?

>> No.6021969

>>6021884
I very much doubt it'll go on past 120k

>> No.6021973

>>6021884
120-130

>> No.6021980

>>6021698
She's doing a watchalong of the concert with 12k people.

>> No.6021994

>>6021960
Coping and seething where the sun doesn't shine

>> No.6022133

>>6020773
>>6020699
>>6020640
I come back to the numbers thread only to find falseflaggers jumping on my post and taking full credit. Meds. Now.

>> No.6022266

>>6021969
118k right now

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>>6021969

>> No.6022355

>>6022326
The rabbit is powerful

>> No.6022360

Give it an couple of minutes coco about to get btfo.

>> No.6022361

Marine has broken Ibrahim's live viewers. Fuck pachinkofags.

>> No.6022377

I'm not even watching the 3rd gen 3D live but I know that it's still astronomically better than watching Pajeet gambling.

>> No.6022439
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>>6022360
meds

>> No.6022443
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6022443

um nijikeks?

>> No.6022508

>>6022361
Nijifags watched that waste of time pachinko 3D stream and unironically said that it was peak. No standards whatsoever.

>> No.6022518

ok the group song. Will that push it to 130k?

>> No.6022529
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Easy 120k

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6022530

>>6022361
>>6022443
Are you really bragging about this? A full 3rd gen free concert barely beats a single dude gambling lmao. Hololive is unironically reclining. It's all downhill from here.

Didn't beat pic related btw.

>> No.6022565

>>6022530
>>6022443
the falseflagger again

>> No.6022605

>>6022530
ah I love the smell of nijicope in the morning

>> No.6022655

aaahh Idol time lets henshin

>> No.6022659

and connecting gets them to 130k.

>> No.6022664

>>6022530
kek wonder if he could pull those numbers again on his next 3D live. Hint: He won't

>> No.6022760
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>>6022659
>and connecting gets them to 130k.
Easy peasy. Hard to reach 140k without some surprise appearance tho.

>> No.6022784

>>6022760
Pity this ends in an hour, otherwise it'll defintely hit 140

>> No.6022798

Should be enough time for 2 more songs, Ahoy and something else.

>> No.6022830
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SANKISEI LOVE

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6022874

>>6022830
Marine T-posting to establish her dominance

>> No.6022882

5th most viewed Hololive stream ever, 3k off #4

>> No.6022899

>>6022830
Close enough anon

>> No.6022906

132k for a pre-record is pretty good.

>> No.6023032

>>6020257
Ok, I admit, I am waaaaay wrong on this one, Kudos to them they got 130+K

>> No.6023066

This is it numberbros, ahoy peak

>> No.6023086

>>6022906
Isn't this an incline? Not too long ago, 140k from Sakura's return was the highest excluding EN. It's now 134k just from a 3D concert.

>> No.6023164

>>6023086
It would've been higher if Kanata doesn't stream

>> No.6023173

ahoy!

>> No.6023177

holy shit the incline.

>> No.6023219

>>6023164
Those people are also watching the stream. It's keeping the hype up

>> No.6023222

It might reach 140k at end

>> No.6023263

Only behind Coco, Gura and Miko in Hololive history, very impressive although like people have said numbers have been ruined forever because it's so much lower than Coco

>> No.6023267
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>> No.6023325

139K peak goddamn. The incline.

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>> No.6023430

>>6023388
Jun getting rekt is always a nice sight

>> No.6023431

>>6023263
are you telling me coco numbers killed numberfags for ever?

>> No.6023457

>>6023431
her last gift to us

>> No.6023463

>>6023219
The "problem" is that youtube only counts your view on 1 stream if you're watching multiple streams. Meaning the 13k watching Kanata would normally be +13k for Marine's 139k. Not that it really matters that much tho. Marine getting 139k for a 3D live is a major overachievement imo.

>>6022530
>>6022664
This is clearly bait, but I'll bite anyways. I'm not too experienced with Nijisanji lives, but this one is the biggest one I can remember in recent memory and it peaked at 118k, despite having a much larger cast of guests and being 2 hours long. I think it's safe to say if Fuwa had another 3D live, it would be a fraction of his 3D debut numbers.
https://playboard.co/en/video/A6jnAB4c7xQ

Feels bad to use playboard cuz VNUMA got rid of all their data pages for some reason. Now, clicking on an old stream link just leads you to the youtube link.

>> No.6023486

>>6021262
Damn, even though she's gone. Seeing Coco incline back to top ten most subbed is too fucking delicious. To think she used to be top 3. That taiwan yab did more damage than some people realise. Coco mogging is gonna be missed.

>> No.6023552

>>6023463
>Now, clicking on an old stream link just leads you to the youtube link.

yeah that was retarded, the way they present their numbers instead of the real numbers is also really irritating. Let's just hope they are fixing it.

>> No.6023589

>>6023463
>The "problem" is that youtube only counts your view on 1 stream if you're watching multiple streams. Meaning the 13k watching Kanata would normally be +13k for Marine's 139k.
Where do you actually have proof of this?

>> No.6023686

>>6023589
People figured it out during the summer festival when Kiara gained 4k viewers and it removed 4k viewers from Miko at the exact same moment when they went to see Kiara's reaction.

>> No.6023717

>>6023589
NTA but IIRC it was being discussed like around a week ago? Someone came with some data and proof so it should be kind of reliable.

>> No.6023772

In any case, Hololive achieved their 3rd highest live viewed stream with the sankisei group. What to expect for next week? I've heard EN 2 is gonna be announced on the 5th and debut on the 7th. It smells like bait but it's possible if they want to keep the traction from Coco's graduation going.

>> No.6023818

>>6023772
there is no way they'll debut it that quickly
It might get annouced at AX though

>> No.6023822

>>6023589
>>6023686
It was part of the Dec 2020 changes Youtube made towards counting live viewers I think. I mean, it makes sense. Otherwise, you can have schizo BTS fans opening 50 tabs of the Butter premiere to drive up the live viewers. Another case of it being quite obvious is during the NijiApex Tournament when a lot of people were watching their oshi's stream and the official channel's stream. The moment the participants ended their streams, the official channel's viewer count skyrocketed from 60k to 99k because their views were being counted now.

>> No.6023849

>>6023686
Why would you even use such a flimsy test that could easily have multiple reasons, ex. people being on mobile? Literally just use 2 windows on streams you setup yourself from a different computer and see if they both count as a viewer. Hint: they do and I can already see people coping with "2 tabs not 2 windows" or the good ol' "they check large streams but not smaller ones"

>> No.6023861

>>6023463
Only the 3D debut brings in a ton of tourists for Nijisanji (and baseball tournament I guess)
Besides Kuzuha, unless a major event happens Nijisanji streamers can't reach those numbers at all other than their 3D debut which is only a one time thing. On the flip side, Holos reach those numbers most times they get a new outfit or a popular Holo does a concert.

>> No.6023863

>>6023772
>3rd highest live viewed stream
No it was 4th, Coco's graduation, Gura's outfit, and Miko's return were all above it

>> No.6023912

>>6023431
Coco is just that based

>> No.6023937

>>6023818
Hmm, I agree it's likely they're gonna announce EN 2 there on top of a twitter announcement. Is AX really that huge for the west?

>> No.6023943

>>6023717
Do you have a link or something to search? Last week includes the span of like 10 threads.

>>6023822
Twitch counts you up to 6 tabs. Youtube counts your same view in a day multiple times up a certain point. 50 tabs, or even 2, on the same stream obviously doesn't count you as multiple. I'm confused what sort of "data" someone showed to make the common sentiment here contrary to, when you open 2 streams, you count as a viewer in both.

>> No.6023980
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>>6023589
>Where do you actually have proof of this?
Proof is a strong word but there is lots of hints
>pic related
You can see the same in any multi view collab stream

>> No.6023985

>>6023822
Didn't Nijipex peaked at 90K?

>> No.6023998
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>>6023849
theres no proof and desktop or pc users are a small fraction anyway.

>> No.6024035

>>6023937
>Is AX really that huge for the west?
It isn’t and never been.

>> No.6024048

>>6023937
AX is the biggest anime convention in the west and pretty much the closest thing we have to a weeb version of e3 so yeah if there's going to be an announcement announcing it on AX isn't that bad an idea.

>> No.6024093

>>6023937
It's where all the major anime related companies announce thing.
Think of it as E3 for weebs.

>> No.6024107

>>6024035
>>6024048
So which is it?

>> No.6024114

>>6023985
https://vnuma.net/en/streamers/recent/127e91f2290b49019a32a554e887eb3f/

Scroll down to June 12th. It says 100k actually.
Also WTF VNUMA is so fucking awful now. I actually despise this website.

>> No.6024137

If everyone hates vnuma so much, why not make a /numbers/ approved tracking site?

>> No.6024153

>>6024107
This
>>6024048
>>6024093
The other guy is just salty and probably a /pol/ tourist

>> No.6024162

>>6024114
nvm I got jebaited, it's only 99k. For some reason, the JP version of the website runs up/down to the 10s. It's absolutely fucking retarded. Some people got tricked into thinking Ib got 120k last night because it rounded up 117k to 120k on the JP version.

>> No.6024193

>>6024137
What happened to Vnuma?
It is the go to of the numberfags in the past threads, right?

>> No.6024226

>>6024193
They made changes that made the site worse for numberfagging which was the entire point of that site. Who the fuck rounds numbers?

>> No.6024244

will HoloEN stream anything about AnimeExpo by the way?

>> No.6024297

Korone playing Yoshi's Crafted World(8.5k) is getting less viewers than Suisei doing a zatsudan (9.5k). The doog is famous for being able to tank debuff games like a champ, but she's been reclining quite hard in the past few months. Korone used to be a solid 20k every night no matter what boomer game she played, but her and Okayu are now hovering around 10k more often times than not.

>> No.6024361

>>6024297
why do you talk like you watch Holo when you don't?
>Korone used to be a solid 20k every night no matter what boomer game she played,
No.

>> No.6024419

>>6024244
They'll be on the AX stream which is paywalled, so for our purposes no

>> No.6024428

>>6023980
its a theory but like >>6023998 pointed out a lot of people watch youtube on a phone/tablet so they can't just switcfh tabs to another stream. hell i think japan uses mostly phones for this kind of stuff

>> No.6024480

>>6024297
Korone took a break and doesn't stream as long nor as frequent as before.

>>6024361
No he is right check https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/korone
Korone reclined hard starting on her last AC valhalla stream.

>> No.6024488

>>6024361
Yeah that anon is smoking crack. Korone only averaged 20k during her massive boom. August-November. Even then she would still literally get half the number of liveviewers than pekora. VoD numbers were pretty much identical. But now, yeah the doggo is massively reclining.

>> No.6024550

>>6024480
No he isn't right, Pre permission she might have but we're talking early 2020 here, She's been middle ground for a while due to breaks/personal problems mixed with people not enjoying certain games like SaGa, She got like 30k for Henry Stickman like a week ago.

>> No.6024582

>>6024428
It was 54% smartphone back in 2018. Probably higher now https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/05/25/business/tech/smartphones-now-preferred-choice-internet-access-japan-surpassing-pcs-first-time/

>> No.6024615

>>6023937
>>6024048
I doubt they will explicitly announce EN2 at AX.
Maybe some hints,
but it's dumb to show the whole thing behind a paywall.
Their panel is a virtual panel,
and virtual panels are not as popular as their physical panels,
so announcement is most likely about some merch.
The debut teaser will premiere on the official branch channel.

>> No.6024618

>>6024361
I might have exaggerated a bit, more like 15k. I was referring to her reclining from her Dec 2020 numbers. Not gonna use pre-dec 2020 numbers because everyone got cut down.
Namely streams like:
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/vhlAnMMxuco
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/vtYXBBLgGuc
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/t4vmX5WgzxI

I looked at the numbers again, and the game that Korone reclines the most on in the past few months are all Saga Frontier streams. I do recall Korone's older sonic streams doing better than her more recent ones too.

>> No.6024622

>>6024550
Yeah you're right, holostats is just bad for data presentation, she gets shit numbers for shit games. Just ask the graphs anon when he visits the thread later if there is an incline or recline.

>> No.6024676

>>6024615
It's not like they do anything special for their announcements anyways.
A lot of major announcements are paywalled near a concert.
Gen announcements are just a random tweet drop.

>> No.6024791

>>6024550
>She's been middle ground for a while due to breaks/personal problems mixed with people not enjoying certain games like SaGa
I think you might have misunderstood me then, my comment about her being a guaranteed 20k was a memory from around the time HoloEN debuted. Even taking into account that everyone got nerfed, her numbers have been dwindling for months now. Could be game choice, her insistence on playing Saga Frontier did a lot of damage to her numbers.

>She got like 30k for Henry Stickman like a week ago.
Henry Stickman is not a debuff game. If anything, it's a big buff game for Hololive because it's a game EOPs love watching and Korone has one of the larger EOP fanbases.

>> No.6024964

>>6024615
They announced HoloAlt at the end of Bloom so it's not unheard of

>> No.6025069
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8U2xRoTx0
She's getting more powerful by the day.

>> No.6025146

>>6025069
HOW
O
W

>> No.6025198

>>6025069
Only needs 5k more to beat Kuzuha streaming Apex LMAO
It looks like she almost doubled her subcount in a few days too.
https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/UCQz5mRHdiwt7NrS9tc4D1Dg

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>>6025146
She's like if Gibara was an apex player

>>6025198
Kuzuha must be trembling right now

>> No.6025292

>>6025069
Holy shit that's insane, she was also in the SC rankings yesterday >>6019975

>> No.6025374

>>6025272
What's her APEX's rank?

>> No.6025461

>>6025069
is she someone famous in Apex or what?

>> No.6025577

>>6025461
Nips love APEX for some reason

>> No.6025633

>>6025461
No. Before all of this she hadn't streamed at all, as far as I can see. But she had song covers on another channel (also with low subs).

>>6025374
I don't know my way around apex, but I think this is her https://apex.tracker.gg/apex/profile/origin/sakusan0/overview

>> No.6025788

>>6025069
>[moon] Kanon
Who is that? She new? VNUMA isn't tracking her.

>> No.6025824

>>6025788
Sakusan Kanon
Not new, but new at streaming I think.

>> No.6025889

>>6025069
Just from watching her for a bit, she has to have been an entertainer of some sort before.
Loud, energetic, cracking jokes and engaging the audience while playing Apex.

>> No.6026045

Holo actually getting negative numbers today? it's showing Shion, Mio, and Mel at -1000 and most everyone else at 0. Youtube being fucked again?

>> No.6026077
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>>6024297
>Korone used to be a solid 20k every night no matter what boomer game she played
Why must you turn this numbers thread into a house of lies anon? Korone average viewership only stayed above 20k in two periods

>between 2020-10-18 and 2020-12-02
The same period of global incline for all JP.
Then Youtube cut the legs of all live streamers and debuffed all by 40% with some "special sauce" live viewers count that does not count all live viewers
>pic related
Holo JP live viewers average vs. Korone live viewers average, for the whole period Holostats has data

>> No.6026371

>>6026077
I can almost bet that the dips in those charts relate directly to endurance streams.

>> No.6026402
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Kson has overtaken Luna. If she plays her cards right and mostly plays buff games. I could see her toppling the entirety of Nijisanji.

>> No.6026414

>>6026077
My bad then, I was wrong, but I wasn't lying on purpose. I said that number out of memory because I remember seeing Korone getting 20k every night around the time HoloEN debuted. The main point of my post is highlighting Korone's recline in the past few months anyways, which I don't think is wrong.

>> No.6026426

>>6026371
The lines are 7 days moving average to smooth out the daily events. Which dips you mention, I can check in the dataset

>> No.6026457

>>6026045
Tatsunoko are leaving obviously. Anyone saying otherwise is massively coping.

>> No.6026487
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>>6026414
>but I wasn't lying on purpose
Anonchama...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRXmfIlOzJQ

"turn this X into a house of lies" is a lighthearted meme, not a serious charge

>> No.6026518

>>6026402
Damn this is actual insanity. On one side some holomembers are losing subs meanwhile Kson is booming.

>> No.6026572
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>Pekora Micra dominating as usual

>> No.6026574

>>6026402
She'll be toppling all of hololive by the end of the year at this rate

>> No.6026593

>>6026402
500 subs a day? Niji females reclining really hard, even homostars have a higher growth rate than them.

>> No.6026606

>>6026402
>If she plays her cards right and mostly plays buff games
If she wanted to "mostly play buff games" she wouldn't have creative disagreements with Hololive Productions in the first place, would she?

>> No.6026661

>>6026606
During holotalk she said she has been saving up over 60 games. This is probably why.

>> No.6026671

>>6025272
Oh, we will have a new King of Apex?

>> No.6026684

>>6026661
>she said she has been saving up over 60 games
What does that even mean?

>> No.6026760

will someone make a new numbers thread?

>> No.6026802

>>6026760
After this one archives, hopefully long after

>> No.6026805

>>6026760
We need to kill this thread already then

>> No.6026855

>>6026457
Oh people that are just done completely with Hololive with Coco gone? That makes sense. Bound to be a few thousand people like that kicking around. Doubt they ever watched Mel or Choco or whatever but were maybe subbed to everyone out of a sense of unity. That or youtube fuckery as usual or Chinese shenanigans.

>> No.6026940

>>6026684
She has 60 games she wanted to play, but couldn't.

>> No.6027012

>>6026940
>but couldn't.
If it is anything related to permission she likely still cannot unless she's feeling really bold she can get off with playing (let's say) Capcom games without a written permission

>> No.6027038

>>6027012
Isn't it different for indies?

>> No.6027048

>>6026940
that dosen't realy mean that those are buff games. hmm with holos gaining that many permissions lately its actualy more likely some indie games

>> No.6027080

>>6027012
She doesn't need permission if she's doing it as an indie.

>> No.6027112

>>6026593
Aren't they some of nijis bigger hitters too?

>> No.6027120

>aqua 11k
>korone 9k
Damn the recline. And they used to pull 15k+ before.
>subaru 19k
>miko 19k
New replacement kek

>> No.6027134

>>6026457
I can see a lot of people chatting on holopros with the dragon as their thing. I doubt that a big chunk will go. If you're a fan of HoloJP then you are most likely a fan of 2-3 more. That's why you have them in gens and units. You are latched on even if one goes away. If Kuzuha graduates, a major chunk of people that watches him will leave Anycolor as well. Even in EN, people that watch Gura most likely watch Mori, Ame or Ina as well. I think the only one that doesn't have a lot of overlap is Pekora. Sort of. Since we know a lot of people are still die hard pekomiko fans

>> No.6027151
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6027151

June`s View/Time Ranking:
>>6026961 (OP has more details)

>> No.6027155

>>6027038
>Isn't it different for indies?
>>6027080
>She doesn't need permission if she's doing it as an indie.
Haha, of course she does. The difference usually is that companies don't bother about 2k subs 100 live viewers indies that make the glut of the industry.
Any company can strike any VOD containing their property at any time they choose so if there is no blanket permission or signed permisssion for it.

>> No.6027176

>>6026457
Most are staying clearly. How else do you explain the Miko incline?

>> No.6027219

>>6027120
Aqua is beating a dead horse with this game. It's out of hype already. If she fucking play that horse game after this, I will be disappointed. Her numbers will double if she comes back to MC or something where people can see her interact or shoot people.

>> No.6027238

>>6027120
If Aqua wasn't playing the minigame of RE7, then she would get better numbers. A simple minecraft/Apex stream will get her back to 20k+.

>> No.6027255
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6027255

She'll reach 3M in this thread, won't she?

>> No.6027271

>>6026684
She said she has 60 games she bought on steam that she hasn't played, like anyone else. Nothing about them being stuff she wants to play on stream. That anon is being retarded.

>> No.6027343

>>6027176
>Most are staying clearly.
For now...

>> No.6027383

>>6027151
Damn that -55% difference for NijiEN is huge. Guess the honeymoon period ended for them.

>> No.6027388

>>6027343
cope doomposter. today's fantasia numbers prove Coco wasn't the be-and-end-all of hololive

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6027453

>>6026402
> I want Kson to step on me as I use my teeth to scrub the calluses off her feet. Slurp her toes. And deepthroat her entire foot. Man, does it feel good to be a feetchad, AKA a feet enjoyer.

>> No.6027508

>>6027388
>way lower than Gura's oufit reveal
>lower than Miko's return stream
>lower than Fuwa's 3D debut
>barely higher than a dude gambling
Damn, you're right...

>> No.6027571

This doomposter is hilarious.
>not 500k, Hololive must be declining

>> No.6027674

>>6027571
You're seeing the effects of hololive no longer having Coco. It's going to be a slow death for hololive all through the rest of the year.

>> No.6027716

>>6025069
She's so entertaining. I couldn't look away.

>> No.6027725

>>6027012
>>6027155
The difference is, for an individual like kson she can just make another account if she gets struck, and they can't really sue her unless they really want to make a point. A corporation like cover can be easily sued and can't just simply pack up their bags and make another account the way an individual can.

>>6027255
This thread is going to die in an hour at best, and she won't hit three mil until tomorrow at the very earliest

>> No.6027808

>>6027388
>"Coco is literally the only member who will be remembered as a living legend. If Pekora graduated tomorrow, the reaction/praise would be vastly different. The fact that every holomember acknowledges and has expressed this sentiment during her graduation is proof enough"
- a humble doomposter

>> No.6027823

Tell me more Nostradamus! WiIl ayame streaming herald the true end?

>> No.6027860

>>6027716
Do you think she can replace Kuzuha on Apex streams in the ranking?

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>>6027725
>she can just make another account if she gets struck
No she can't. Even her fucking GMail account (if she had one) would be blocked and she would be prohibited from ever creating another account with Google on any of their properties.

It's serious business and for a YT streamer, pretty much the death penalty

>> No.6027944

Is this where Tatsunoko come to cope? Let me join in on the fun. I'm gonna miss weekly Coco mogging bros. ༼;´༎ຶ ۝ ༎ຶ༽

>> No.6027958

>>6027887
yeah because it takes that much effort to make another gmail account and link a youtube account to it

>> No.6028085

>>6027944
>>6027808
>>6027674
>>6027343
>>6026457

You can ask for support in the kiryukai forever thread. At first I found you funny, now your just sad. Take a walk outside anon, it will help.

>> No.6028161

>>6027112
Homostars have the potential to overtake half of Nijisanji.

>> No.6028189

>>6027958
>it takes that much effort to make another gmail account and link a youtube account to it
Anon, this is not an anime clip small site, it is the highest superchatted person in the globe.

If she gets canned she can set up another account all she wants, the second she links it to her real person (to receive the money she'll earn) she'll get immediately canned again

>> No.6028284

>>6028189
You can set youtube to forward your earnings to paypal, and from there forward it to your bank. Last I checked google does not yet own paypal, and even if they do it's not like it's difficult to open another bank account. It's not like youtube asks for proof of identity when you set up an account.

>> No.6028292

Just where did all the retards come from?

>> No.6028351

>>6028292
chink raid, bugmen are getting some shitposting in before going to bed

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