/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>60160240
>rushia of all people did not unironically care about her fans
This is beyond dilusional.

>>60161287
If she cared about them why was she meeting up with a dude?

>>60161382
rushia is incapable of not caring about things. whatever the fuck her mental disorder is (it is far beyond simple bipolar) one of the clear and most obvious elements of it is that she is completely emotionally dependent on the most recent person to talk to her and tell her she is cute. usually this is her various whales and discord groomer mods but occasionally it is a dramafag who sneaks into her DMs.

>>60161523
She still doesn't love her fans and never did.

I also care about my meal ticket, to the extent I'm required to in order to not lose it.

>>60160240
The better question is why do people fall for it? Why not watch real anime instead?

>>60160240
You don't understand what a sociopath is.
They are a bit like psychopath.
You should try to lurk in threads related to Suisei if you want to learn.

As for vtubers the streamer is very similar to their audience.
This means that they care the same way.
It's not manipulation but a honest projection of their beliefs.

>>60160240
They all do this. If this disgusts you, you're in the wrong hobby.

Nekofami should not interfere with her ASMR.
If she is in a bad mood, she can't complain if she collaborates with a man in SUTOSABA.

>>60161964
kill yourself 5ch民
this thread wasn't even made by ねこふぁみ it was made by a Vアンゴミ
ボケが

She does not have to worry about Nekofami getting in the way.
Have fun talking to guys like Muramako at SUTOSABA.

>>60162487
Muramako is a female
a woman
a girl
she does not have a penis
she has a vagina

Mikeneko loves male streamers.

>>60160240
>was willing to get terminated from one of the easiest jobs in the world to prove herself to her fans
>she doesn't care about them
Its rare to see someone be more mentally handicapped than Rushia and yet here we are

>>60162697
muramako is not a male streamer

How did Sigure Ui and she become so different?
Ui's momentum is tremendous.

>>60163046
little girls are sexy

>>60161619
cry more fancuck.

>>60162818
>willing to get terminated
Do you honestly believe she was smart enough to realize that what she did was going to get her terminated? No chance she didn't get completely blindsided by the news.

>>60162860
Correct. Kirsch and others are.

>>60162818
You come up with the wildest bullshit to prop up this absolute piece of human trash.

>>60163290
her collab today was with muramako, not kirsch

>>60163453
And? Her love for male streamers doesn't suddenly vanish because she had a collab with a woman.

>>60163344
And you come up with the wildest bullshit to turn her or her actions into things they are not

>>60162818
>willing to get terminated
She will never in her remaining life let go of the blunder of being terminated from hololive she is going to regret it for her whole life.

>>60163555
She was objectively making up bullshit rumors about hololive. She did not willingly get herself fired to prove her innocence. She didn't even manage to prove her innocence.
She wanted to date mafumafu. She never loved you.

>>60163679
>She never loved you.
still not true no matter what your headcanon is rushiaschizo

>>60163728
If she loved you why did she go out on a dinner date with mafumafu?

>>60160240
THIS NIGGA IS A JADED CYNIC. HE LET THE HARSHNESS OF THE REAL WORLD BLIND HIM TO THE LOVE AND JOY THAT IS OUT THERE

>>60162697
my innocent pure mikeneko would never. its that heartless BITCH koito ria.

It's even more insidious when it comes to vtubers that pretend to be their audiences friends because noone is even skeptical of that.

And so they fleece the pockets and gullible minds of attention starved people

Sakana loves Kanade

>>60164142
>vtubers that pretend to be their audiences friends
i knew it, fubuki was actually my cat wife this whole time

>>60163679
>She was objectively making up bullshit rumors about hololive.
Wrong, elaborate what exactly did she make up and how and why you are calling it "objectively".
>She did not willingly get herself fired to prove her innocence.
Nobody gets willingly fired. She was not aware the consequences would be what they turned out to be.
>She didn't even manage to prove her innocence.
She managed to proof they are not living together which is what she wanted to proof.
>She wanted to date mafumafu.
Yes, she was reciprocating mafumafu's interest in dating back in 2020 but it did not work out. He potentially wanted to date her in 2022 when she was no longer interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with him. If there was anything more to:
a) It would not have been a Discord message, they would have communicated on LINE.
b) He would not have been named as 'mafumafusan'

>>60164351
>elaborate what exactly did she make up and how
She said she was being treated badly by staff and a senpai.
>why you are calling it "objectively".
Because she actually said those things and got fired for it.
>Nobody gets willingly fired.
Yet your fellow cucks constantly claim she did.
>She managed to proof they are not living together which is what she wanted to proof.
Your English is very bad. It was proven that she loved mafumafu so she was not innocent. Just being in contact with him makes her guilty.
>cope
So in other words she betrayed her fans and took a shot at dating mafumafu. You talk as if it all ended in 2020 but it was still going on in 2022.
She is the one who kept it going.

>>60163770
because you don't know what romantic love is nor what it's constraints are, because you have never experienced it
rushia betrayed her fans and risked harming her co-workers, and for that she has suffered enough
that does not mean that she did not love them

>>60165417
She never loved you. She only liked the money and attention.

>>60165512
You sound insanely schizophrenic

>>60165599
You're the one who's being schizophrenic. The simplest explanation to her behavior is that she never loved you and just wanted money.

>>60165512
you have no clue how to differentiate between the two because you have never been loved or been in love.
Anybody who watched Rushia and paid attention to her for those years would be incapable or claiming that the emotions she felt for her fans was not romantic love. This is irrespective of her actions. emotions and actions are disparate things.

>>60165740
If she was romantically in love with you she wouldn't have been going out on dates with mafumafu.
How many times does this need to be repeated?
She even told korekore that she wants to have a good romantic relationship someday which means she has not had one. She did not love you. She only likes that you empty your pockets for her for absolutely no reason.

>>60165702
no it isn't, because it doesn't even attempt to explain her various breakdowns over fans not loving her even when her attention and money hadn't wavered.

>>60160240
>I want to be constantly insulted for hours
Why don't you watch western fleshtubers if you want to be treated like a number for them to earn money?

>>60165909
Her income only goes down. When someone says they're leaving that means she might lose even more money. It was always about the money.
She never loved you, she loved mafumafu.

>>60165702
You are schizophrenic jesus christ
I feel so sorry for you

>>60165866
Emotions and actions are different things. How many times does this have to be repeated?
Answer this question from a genuine, no nonsense perspective; in the history of all mankind, has every single time a person attempted to pursue a relationship with another person been out of romantic interest in that person?
Think carefully lest you out yourself as autistic.

>>60164704
>She said she was being treated badly by staff and a senpai.
>Because she actually said those things and got fired for it.
Correct, she said that and there is no proof that she was not.
On the opposite, the mere fact that she felt cornered and even contacted korekore because of it is more than enough proof that she was in fact being treated badly.
>Yet your fellow cucks constantly claim she did.
Are you too autistic to understand what they are saying with that?
>It was proven that she loved mafumafu so she was not innocent.Just being in contact with him makes her guilty.
It wasn't proven that she loved him. It was merely proven that she reciprocated his advances a long time ago. You do not _love_ someone by merely agreeing to go on a dinner date with someone. I know your virgin brain may not know this but that is how people start dating, by you know going on dates before actually developing a romantic relationship. Nobody at that point actually feels love for the other person. I do not see how her taking a shot at a potential romantic relationship in real life long before she actually committed and started to feel love for fandead beyond kayfabe would matter.
>So in other words she betrayed her fans and took a shot at dating mafumafu.
Betrayed her fans, how? Already established it was before it mattered so.
>You talk as if it all ended in 2020 but it was still going on in 2022.
It was not of romantic nature that ended in 2020.
>>She is the one who kept it going.
No, he was actually the one who 'kept it going'. He was the one who messaged her. He was the high rank player who wanted to play with someone who is awful at the game. There is and always will be only one reason why a guy does that, he either likes the girl or just wants to fuck her. Had she reciprocated those feelings in 2022, again, it would not have been a Discord message. You call it 'cope' because you have little to no experience and/or are incapable of picking up on social cues or reading between the lines.

>>60161619
>She still doesn't love her fans and never did.
Always has been

>>60166030
I meant when she was Rushia, and when she was inclining. When she was gaining views, and gaining revenue over time. But would break down over a single fan, and not even a paypig, nor some kind of influencer, nor even an anti.

>>60161619
She loved their money, just like all GFE chuubas

>>60166054
No. So you're implying that she wanted to get into a relationship with mafumafu for his money?
That doesn't make any sense. She loved him and implied as much when talking to korekore. She wanted 恋愛 which she doesn't have you, cux.

>>60166171
Even when she was rushia. The mafumafu date happened in December of 2020. 2021 was her most mental full year in hololive and that was when she was secretly playing around with mafumafu.
Everything she said about loving you during that year was a lie.

>>60166190
of course she would tell korekore something less fucked up than her actual reasons.
And it wasn't money either.
it was fear of abandonment. Unjustified fear. But she is far from sane.

>>60166266
if you think she had romance on her mind during the period after her cat died, you need to go back and review those circumstances

>>60166353
Why does she need to fear abandonment from a person you claim she never actually liked in any capacity?

>>60166422
What is this argument? That only cover the last few months of the year. She had been in contact with mafumafu for the ENTIRE YEAR while deluding you into thinking that she loves you and will never talk to any other men.

>>60166443
idiot. not abandonment by him. よく考えて

>>60160240
Rushia is too menhera to be a sociopath.
She constantly fucks her own shit up then treats her audience like a comfort blanket. She should think of everyone as equals but can't/won't. She's a necromancer, so to be summoned by her you have to be (brain)dead anyway. If you were like me and just went haha when she screams and aww cute when she's cute, and recognized she's too unstable for anything more, you'd be unaffected like me too. I point the fingers at her and you both and say you both need a psychiatrist.

>>60166573
Abandonment by who then, you dumbfuck cuck? You were supposed to justify her pursuing a relationship with him.

>>60166559
But that is not true they hadn't been in contact for the entire year what makes you even think that

>>60166559
korekores own account says there was a few months break in contact between the 2020 dinner and then apex shit happening
the cat getting ill and dying was within the last 4ish months of the year
any real attempt can only be pinned down to at most 3-5 months depending on how long she waited to ask kr2 for his relationship backgrounds

>>60166668
Are you now going to argue that the dinner date was actually in December 2021? If you are then just put a bullet through your cuck skull.

>>60166621
Us.
she told us she knew we would abandon her
you can call it a self fulfilled prophecy

>>60166745
No what the fuck are you talking about?
They hadn't been in contact since 2020 until late 2021

>>60166734
>>60166864
She was in contact with mafumafu in early summer of 2021. This attempt to pin all of her mafumafu contacts on her cat dying just doesn't work.

>>60166888
You are mentally ill

>>60166804
So you're now trying to twist the mafumafu dating attempt as her trying to have a safety net for the moment that you might abandon her. Sorry, but that still doesn't make any sense.
She told you she loved you and then went on a dinner date with him. You were not in her mind at any point.
Even now when there's no way she could reach anyone as relevant him she still puts you on second place, but you're not even on second place. You're not in the race to be loved by her, because she doesn't love you and never did.

>>60167031
You're the one that's mentally ill desperately trying to shut up anyone telling the truth.
She had mafumafu in her discord DM's in June of 2021. That's nowhere close to her cat dying.

>>60167059
>She told you she loved you and then went on a dinner date with him. You were not in her mind at any point.
with all due respect, do you remember the mikeneko tweet she made after her date with him?
>Even now when there's no way she could reach anyone as relevant him she still puts you on second place, but you're not even on second place. You're not in the race to be loved by her
I could prove you wrong, but I would be violating the privacy of somebody else's DMs shared with me in confidence. So you can believe what you want, but you unironically lack critical information. Which is unfortunate.

>OP realizing that vtubers don't actually care about their fans

>>60160240
Commie seethe
If it works it works.

>>60167212
>do you remember the mikeneko tweet she made after her date with him?
No. It doesn't even matter. She did what she shouldn't have, but lets see you post it. I'm sure your interpretation of it will be as realistic as your interpretation of her saying she wants 恋愛.
>I could prove you wrong, but
So you can't prove me wrong. The only "proof" you have is her lies. It doesn't matter how many times she says she loves you when she tried to pursue a real relationship. She has never had anything resembling one with you. You having to use SOMEONE ELSE'S DM's as "proof" just further proves this.
There's no love, just mass manipulation.

>>60167059
minor point; it was actually almost immediately after her (failed) date with mafumafu (the reasons for which and the initiator are still in question) that she went balls deep into GFE
before then the only time she was hard-core into it was when her friend had gotten married and she had an existential crisis
she also tried to breastfeed us
she keeps trying to breastfeed us
I think she has a breastfeeding fetish

>>60167413
>but lets see you post it.
it's a rather infamous one.
the one where she says she has decided to marry her fans. it was posted about in /hlg/ at the time, remember? I'm sure a cursory archive search could pull it up. It was immediately after the date given for the date.

>>60160240
Imagine being so jaded that you can't just accept what they say at face value. Does everything have to be some 5D Chess master manipulation game? Are women retarded or are they master social manipulators always thinking at one million thoughts a second?
If your oshi says she loves her fans, then she loves her fans.

>>60167433
>(the reasons for which and the initiator are still in question)
It has been almost two years and all this time some of you have tried to claim it was all cleared up but even now you're here confirming that it was in fact not cleared up.

>>60167524
Ok I remember that one but not the exact date. She still kept contact with him and tried to use korekore to make progress so her words mean nothing.

>>60167668
they did actually cut contact with one another for months until roughly the middle of the year or maybe a little before then(again based on kr2s account of her inquiring him about his previous love life)

>>60167532
>be woman
>be selectively bred to be really good at manipulating men for profit and security
>be so good at it that naive people will literally deny it while giving you money
not saying it's necessarily a bad thing though, money is more within your control than things like looks and charisma so it actually works out better this way for a lot of people. vtuber pocket industry exists because people realize this at least subconsciously, even ones who are too squeamish to outright hire a whore

>>60167803
>based on kr2s account
No, based on her leaking a view of her discord where you can see mafumafu at the top of her DM's. You should be aware of this if you're as serious of a fan as you seem to be.

If you genuinely believe the vtuber loves 1 single fan then you truly are schizophrenic
Good luck with you life

>>60167812
I feel like it has slightly less to do with women and more to do with the fact that men inherently WANT to be providers for a woman. I also think "manipulation" is too hostile a term, even if some women do push it to that extreme.
I don't really see an issue with it at all, as long as both parties inherently understand this.

>>60168000
>his oshi hates him
roru. couldn't be me.

>>60167668
>It has been almost two years and all this time some of you have tried to claim it was all cleared up but even now you're here confirming that it was in fact not cleared up.
the initial date itself was never addressed, only that she believed that her fans would abandon her and she sought comfort over that, referring to the advances attempted mid 2021.
the date itself is still shrouded and judging from her responses she never seemed to feel as if the singular date itself was a big deal as opposed to the actual prolonged circumstances that occurred in mid 2021.
If you have access to her membership posts from 2021, you should be able to find the one where she says "it feels like everyone is disappearing more and more" and "if you don't want me, rushia will go and disappear". That post more or less lined up with when she would have reinstated contact with mf2. Bear in mind that she made that post while inclining. Is that a sign of a sane and rational perspective to you?

>>60167926
...yes, middle of the year. A few months prior to her cat dying. As I said.

>>60168120
You're trying to move the goalposts from her cat dying to a bunch of random shit now. So was it the cat or not? You're also now handwaving the whole dinner date thing completely when that's the first and biggest point of betrayal. If she loved you she wouldn't have done that.

>>60168174
You put a mention about it being based on something korekore said as if that makes it less reliable. Is he supposed to be a reliable source now?

>>60168369
You are using anything he presented as a reliable source so why can't others?

>>60168442
I never said he's unreliable. I'm questioning you bringing him up when mentioning things because typically you would just say he is just saying shit and isn't trustworthy. It feels like you might just backtrack on what's being said and and claim it's not true because he's the only source even though in this case he's not.

>>60168369
>when that's the first and biggest point of betrayal
I very much disagree with this point of view
the actual several months of advances are far, far worse than a single dinner date with ambiguous reasoning

>>60168369
I mentioned kore because that particular claim lines up with first hand evidence we were privy to sans kore2

>>60168120
Her memberposts are on nyaa so go ham at them

>>60168637
I'm not that anon and yes I do think a lot of what he presented is bullshit. That guy isn't stupid when it comes to his business. He always drives the narrative that his viewers enjoy and clearly favors whoever could cause him more trouble. Only a fool would believe otherwise.

>>60169017
弱ってるところ更にやられてしまった気持ちで涙が止まらない。。。どんどんみんな目移りして言ってしまうんだなあってすごい感じてしまった。。ごめん

なんか、なんかよくわかんないよ

軽々しく好きって言わないでほしい
ほんとに、、傷ついてどんどん信用出来なくなっちゃうよ、エゴサするって言ってるのにさ、
検索入らないようにしてよ

不要なら消えるよ、るしあは


色んな悩みや嫌なこと続き、最近のメンタルも相まって今とても混乱してる、

マイクラ楽しくやろうと思ったのにごめん

数時間で気持ちが変わるといいな

吐き出しさせてもう我慢できなくなったこの書き込み高確率で消すと思う
Rushia Ch. 潤羽るしあ

5/5/2021
this is how she felt just before we saw the first indications of her reinstating contact with mf2

>>60160240
>Is there anything more disgusting than this?
obvious pedobaiting like gura, shondo or the new holoen rockgirl would come to mind if i rly had to name smth, but it is pretty close tbf

>>60169507
Kronii lost, get over it.

>>60169637
ok? good for you? where the hell did i mention kronii? where the fuck did you read that?
wrong @ i'm guessing?

>>60169507
1 of those isnt even in hololive you braindead retard

>>60170255
i never said that's a problem solely in holo did i?
you braindead retard

>>60170255
to be fair to that guy, OP did say "vtubers"
however, he is still a retard
cunny supremacy

>>60169126
>I do think a lot of what he presented is bullshit.
But it wasn't.

>>60170255
nobody even mention holo, neither me nor OP
they always say /vt/ don't watch streams but they obviously don't even read their threads i guess

>>60170454
/vt/ is full of retards
more at 11

>>60170390
It was but yes such a well respected man as krkr who is known for stitching together bits & pieces to create new, different and more amusing stories did nothing but present the truth that day

>>60170963
Explain what part of what he presented was bullshit.

>>60171099
I quite literally already did in the very post you just replied to

>>60160240
Anon try streaming for 6 months.
Tell me if you care about your fans afterwards

>>60171183
But you didn't. You're just laying out a bunch of generalizations without actually pointing out what part of what he presented was bullshit.
I'm almost certain that you actually believe he's friends with mafumafu.

>>60171200
If you can't manage that you're a bad person.

>>60171267
Your reading comprehension is 0.
He used small and loosely connected pieces to tell the tale of rushia chasing mafumafu. Had he more or anything concrete than that he would have used it. Also, as already pointed out, the very fact it was a dm on her work discord account instead of line and his reaction to that (which was utter confusion) should tell you all you need to know. I don't know if he is friends with mafumafu behind the scenes but you can't honestly believe for a second that after his initial reaction blew up on all sns and all eyes turned on him that rushia was the only one who contacted him. Think again who has more power.

>>60171927
>He used small and loosely connected pieces to tell the tale of rushia chasing mafumafu.
He didn't "tell a tale" because it's exactly what happened. He knows what she came to him for. There's just no denying it unless you're a cuck hopelessly in "love" with her despite her not loving anything but your money.
>the very fact it was a dm on her work discord account instead of line and his reaction to that (which was utter confusion) should tell you all you need to know.
What should it tell me, exactly? He himself never claimed they were dating. His reaction is appropriate for his conclusion which was that ruwhore was trying to date mafumafu and just kept fucking it all up. The notion that they're dating because mafu sent her a message on discord is stupid and he react
>rushia was the only one who contacted him
Mafumafu also contacted him, dumbcuck.

>>60172323
korekore himself never said she was in love with mafu, he said she was the english equivalent of "fond of him"

>>60172523
And so the claim that he "told a tale" gets invalidated further. She was very clearly in love with him. She wanted 恋愛.

>>60172323
>ruwhore
talk like a normal person if you want anybody to take you seriously

>>60172583
fond of a person =/= wants 恋愛 with them

>>60172601
Sure thing quixwhore

>>60172601
I don't care about your opinion. You're stalking a board you have no business on to defend your whore.

>>60172653
I'm talking about the obvious truth and not what korekore said. The claim was the korekore is full of shit and made her look worse than she is. She said she wanted 恋愛.

>>60172323
>He didn't "tell a tale" because it's exactly what happened. He knows what she came to him for. There's just no denying it unless you're a cuck hopelessly in "love" with her despite her not loving anything but your money.
All evidence points towards the opposite, ergo he attempted to tell a tale. You have never been in a relationship nor do you have any friends so you were easily fooled by his farce. The doujins you have read do equate to life experience.
>Mafumafu also contacted him, dumbcuck.
Literally what I said.

>>60172696
I didn't say my opinion, I am saying any rational persons opinion.
>the obvious truth
she already told us the obvious truth and it isn't what your headcanon is
>>60172690
quix and akhe do not post here anymore, retard
it has always been mostly me and a handful of others popping in and out, one of the others in here I recognize(hi *o*o)

>>60172696
>She said she wanted 恋愛.
distortion

>>60172842
>All evidence points towards the opposite
How? She was meeting up with a guy when she shouldn't have. She started talking to korekore out of absolutely nowhere and mafumafu just happened to be one of the things they would talk about and she ended up saying that she fucked it all up and wants 恋愛 someday.
>Literally what I said.
No it's not. You said
>rushia was the only one who contacted him (korekore)

>>60172876
>she already told us
She's a liar. Why would she tell you the truth when it would make you leave her? There's no explanation for her going on a date with mafumafu, getting upset that he won't do it again and saying that she wants 恋愛.

>>60173004
Why don't you undistort it to clear everything up?

>guys she totally wanted a relationship while so suicidal about her cat that kson became suicidal just from babysitting her while she was suicidal
listen to yourself before you listen to her words, because you come off as more unhinged than her

>>60173135
Why did she go on a date with him if she didn't want a relationship?

>>60172876
Oh it's you... Hi Ivory

>>60173093
>How? She was meeting up with a guy when she shouldn't have. She started talking to korekore out of absolutely nowhere and mafumafu just happened to be one of the things they would talk about and she ended up saying that she fucked it all up and wants 恋愛 someday.
Talking to you is as pointless as talking to a flat-earther. A fool that has already bought into the narrative and made up his mind that it's the truth and nothing but the truth.
>You said
>you can't honestly believe for a second [...] that rushia was the only one who contacted him

>>60173093
>Why don't you undistort it to clear everything up?
she inquired about him during a period of extreme menhera certainty over her fans leaving her, the period lasted from around June to when her cat fell fatally ill about 3 months later
she was obviously not going to go into detail about the extremely schizophrenic specifics of her mental break with kore2 and so left it at "maybe I'll have a good love life one day"
this is the sensible reading of the circumstances when you put together her mental state and her reluctance at sharing the schizophrenic inner workings of her mind with acquaintances(which is well documented given how she got legitimately angry at Fandead when they so much as let Korone know about that one time she had a black screen stream start in the middle of the night)

>>60173252
You're the one that bought into a narrative fed to you by her. The facts are that she went to a date with him and kept contacting him in hopes of developing a more serious relationship. She literally said this herself when she said she wishes for 恋愛. If she loved her fans she wouldn't need to say anything about 恋愛, but she doesn't, so she did.

>>60173200
Hey.

>>60173413
You haven't posted in discord for under an hour. Stop posting here.

>>60173372
This is all just your imagination. She was talking about her relationship with mafumafu and what she wished to get out of it.
You're the one heavily distorting what was said. Your story changes every other month.

>>60173170
I keep telling you that the date was a nothingburger compared to the actual 3-4 month period of semi-regular contact in the summer of 2021.
Moreover korekore and mafu both claimed that he invited her instead of the other way around. One of the few details we know about it, in fact.

>>60173480
Kek her story is the one that you keep changing on a weekly basis.

>>60173480
> She was talking about her relationship with mafumafu and what she wished to get out of it.
She objectively was not.
Your only "proof" is a conflation of topics during a message. Except that that isn't proof, and never will be.

>>60173567
Yeah you keep saying that because it's convenient for you. If you didn't, your entire narrative would fall apart. If she loved you she would have never gone on that date, but she did.

>>60173576
When have I ever changed anything? I have been consistent from the start, and it's not even my interpretation. It's what anyone who watched the korekore stream would walk out with if they're not blinded by sunk cost.

>>60173632
She objectively was. Why can't you explain what she was talking about? You have had almost two years to explain this to clear up all the EVIL RUMORS and you still can't do it.
All you can do is screech on this board and call your discord cucks for backup. She doesn't love you. She will keep collabing with men.

>>60173760
>Yeah you keep saying that because it's convenient for you. If you didn't, your entire narrative would fall apart. If she loved you she would have never gone on that date, but she did.
see >>60167433

>>60173760
>Why can't you explain what she was talking about?
I literally have
"maybe I'll have a normal love life some day" is a casual conversation line

>>60173906
Again, irrelevant. If she loved you she wouldn't have done it at all. It makes almost no difference who initiated it. She was supposed to be afraid of men yet she went and met up with one face to face just because she wanted to.

>>60173954
Yeah it's casual conversation among people who failed at a relationship and wish for one in the future. If she was the person you claim she is she wouldn't be using such a line. She is describing her thing with mafumafu as an attempt at having a love life.

>gets invited on date
>questions motives due to past relationships and mafu2s connection to one of them
>inquires about it by contacting kore2
>literally inquires and interrogates mafu2 during the date
>mafu2 is put off of the idea of romance and changes direction to just friends
>ru realizes her menhera put him off
>wishes she could be normal and have a normal romance in the future

Reminder that several month before Mafumafu I'm cumming discord message, the green retard already leaked her discord and it's clearly shown that Rushia chat with mafumafu pretty long before she got caught red handed.

>>60174101
If you deliberately ignore her mentality and if you ignore events creating the circumstances and if you take everything in the most literal sense and if you can't tell between what is and is not kayfabe and if you are too much of an autist and if you are unable recognize true feelings because you have no experience then you are correct. That's a lot of and if's
> If she was the person you claim she is she wouldn't be using such a line
Why not? She has said that many times

>>60174850
You always use her mentality as an excuse because you can just decide what she is thinking at any given moment.
The simplest explanation is that she does not love you and wanted to try dating mafumafu but it didn't work out because she's fucking mental. That's the only part where her mentality matters. She is not some fucking enigma that only the biggest cucks like yourself can understand.
>kayfabe
Oh so she's now playing "kayfabe" in a line chat with korekore? Is that what she told you? You're incredibly stypid.

>>60160240
People pay for hookers. It’s the same idea. You know that they don’t care about you but you need them to pretend that they do

>>60175063
>Oh so she's now playing "kayfabe" in a line chat with korekore? Is that what she told you? You're incredibly stypid.
do you spill your heart out to your casual acquaintances in one off messages?

>>60160240
i don't care, fake gfe is better than no gfe at all

>>60175063
>The simplest explanation
For a person with autism and zero experience that would matter or help you to understand.
In how many relationships have you been and how many friends have you had at the age of 20 and 30? If the answer isn't 0 to all you are clearly lying.
>Oh so she's now playing "kayfabe" in a line chat with korekore? Is that what she told you? You're incredibly stypid.
No that was in relation to her character before developing actual feelings for her fans and committing to it.

>>60175384
No, but I don't play "kayfabe". I simply don't talk about things I don't want to talk about. You're here claiming that she's having "kayfabe" discussions about her love life even though she is apparently romantically fulfilled by her little cucks.

>>60175541
She was supposed to have these feelings for her fans since 2020, but she clearly didn't.
This appeal to being superchad with a million relationship is extremely bizarre when you're the one having to go a woman online for any semblance of a romantic relationship.
You've suck thousands into a "relationship" that will never amount to anything. You're not loved by her.

>>60175063
>You're incredibly stypid.
Faith is virtue, monster

>>60175829
Oh god it's you again. Just preach to your cuck discord friends. You have no business on this board. Your "wife" fording you from watching other vtubers. Have faith in her.

>>60175550
>No, but I don't play "kayfabe". I simply don't talk about things I don't want to talk about.
...this is an incredibly male POV and you don't even realize it.

>>60160240
>OP is a faggot
Is there anything more disgusting than this?

>>60175890
I've been excommunicated from the fandom, retard. My beliefs are my own.
>it's you again
it's always been me, rushiaschizo. This thread and every single other thread going back to when you first started your tirade. It has always been me.

>>60175910
You asked what do I do, retard. You are twisting her words into the most favorable thing for your cuck worldview. She was not playing "kayfabe", she was genuinely talking about her feelings over her situation with mafumafu.

>>60176120
I'm well aware of what someone who never watched her believes. I just assumed you'd understand how women behave.

>>60176292
I watched her for all of 2020 and 2021. She cheated on you and never actually loved you. Everything she said was exposed as a lie when she started talking to mafumafu.

>>60176341
>I watched her for all of 2020 and 2021.
you most certainly did not if you don't even remember her emotional and mental instabilities without them being directly linked.

>>60176628
I did. Her instabilities are irrelevant when it comes to actions. Cheating is cheating. She is a liar and never loved you.

>>60176685
You do not understand anything, you don't even understand how emotions work.
Here's a very simple rundown:
>Rushia feels like fandead are not truly in love with her and are abandoning her
>she thinks the relationship is over and takes up the chance presented to her and attempts the alternative
>it does not work out and she thinks everything over again

>but she continued to talk and play with him
Without romantic interest so she does not consider that do be something wrong.
The reason she continued to lie about that is literally retards like you. She knew very well people like you that have zero experience or friends would not trust her
I don't know a single person that is in a relationship and doesn't play games with people of the opposite gender, nor any that don't have friends of the opposite gender
Are you of muslim heritage?

>>60176685
>instabilities are irrelevant when it comes to actions

>>60177271
Instability doesn't undo the action. You would be excusing her if she went and had sex with him.

>>60177041
She had romantic interest in him during all that time. She was still hoping it would develop into something. That's why she contacted korekore.
You making excuses for playing games is fucking ridiculous when she said she would never associated with men in that way. You're basically calling her a pathological liar.

>>60177641
>She had romantic interest in him during all that time. She was still hoping it would develop into something. That's why she contacted korekore.
this isn't just headcanon, it doesn't even make sense. she reinstated contact 6, almost 7 months after their date. And only after she felt that her relationship with Fandead was over and that they would abandon her.

>>60176685
>She is a liar
correct
>she never loved you
this does not follow the previous statement

>>60177393
>Instability doesn't undo the action.
Who said it excused it? listen to her cast where she talks about it. She certainly didn't speak as if it was an excuse. It was her explanation.

>>60160240
There's no real novelty to how bad it is, it's the business. Vtubers stream but make no mistake, the grand majority of those under corpos function no different than your average flesh celebrity when it comes to actually caring about their fans; they don't beyond their presence, because their presence means money. This is why I say to anons who have a problem with it to stick with 2views, you can at least enjoy yourself for a while if that is an issue.

>>60161523
It's not bipolar. Bipolar is a condition where she has manic phases lasting at least 7 days long but can last for months and may have depressive episodes (but this part is not necessary to be considered bipolar). Bipolar is commonly confused with borderline personality disorder, which is more likely what she has. Borderline personality disorder does not have long lasting manic phases, but usually short bursts of emotion. They will be suddenly furious at someone, and then by the end of the day suddenly love them again. They have a black and white view on the world (you are either the best person they have ever met or you are literally satan incarnate) but even that gets flipped on a daily basis. With how rapidly Rushia flips back and forth, it's more likely that she is borderline rather than bipolar.

>>60177903
So now the dinner date wasn't the point in time where her relationship with you cucks was over? You keep switching it up.

>>60177956
How? She lied to you and made you think she loved you when she didn't.

>>60178037
You. You bring up this instability when she gets accused of lying and cheating.

>>60178253
She has bipolar and bipolar often comes with a borderline disorder, you fucking moron.

>>60178310
you are confusing when the contacts with korekore were and what they were about

>>60160240
I think you might be too jaded bro. You're just projecting at this point

>>60177641
>You making excuses for playing games is fucking ridiculous when she said she would never associated with men in that way. You're basically calling her a pathological liar.
this was in fact wrong of her and another major reason for why the kusoneko shit blew up like it did.
You fundamentally misunderstand the inherent complexity of even a sane persons emotional complexity. Then add her struggling with then undiagnosed and unmedicated bipolar, her natural tendency to try and forget problems instead of facing them and her extreme susceptibility to emotions in the moment as well as her inherently doomer and overreactive mindset, and you get a disastrous mix.
Nobody ever asked you to personally accept watching her after what she has done. It's your inability to understand the circumstances that makes you fundamentally cruel.

>>60178253
She was clinically diagnosed with bipolar.
I am too(rapid cycling) and recognized her as someone similar to myself before she ever mentioned mania in a mikeneko tweet late 2021.

>>60178403
No I'm not. First one of you cuckolds claimed she went on the dinner date because she thought her fake internet relationship was over, and now you're claiming that she only thought that months after the date.
She talked to korekore in november 2021. This is well documented.

>>60178480
She is the one who's fundamentally cruel. She lies and tried to ruin everyone elses lives for not doing what she wants.

>>60178567
Remember what that conversation in November 2021 was about?

>>60161250
where did you get this image of me

>>60178626
>She lies and tried to ruin everyone elses lives for not doing what she wants
projecting much arent we

>>60178567
>First one of you cuckolds claimed she went on the dinner date because she thought her fake internet relationship was over,
nobody did this because the dinner date was never the focus of her behavior for anybody but you. The dinner date had a completely different explanation which was linked further up above.
The idea that I would have more of an issue with a one off event instead of 3 months of continued contact that began over half a year afterwards is absolutely buttfuck insane to me. Especially since he invited her. And those to events are literally disjoint, the only one who thinks they aren't is you for absolutely no reason except "IT JUST HAD TO BE OKAY?!"

>>60167812

>>60178626
I suppose everyone with a mental illness that causes them to lash out irrationally is fundamentally cruel in your eyes, then.
You have never met a truly cruel person in your life. Someone who chooses to make others miserable with sober senses and functional mental faculties. THAT is fundamentally cruel.

>>60160240
Ogey, western vtuber. You can go back to scolding your fans for not paying you and your boyfriend for existing, taking months long vacation with your friends and posting real life pics on your twitter

It's amazing how little the japs have to do they keep waiting for any thread barely related to Rushia to start spewing their schizo shit.

>>60178799
How am I trying to ruin her life? I'm only arguing with you cucks. I have never done anything to her. She tried to sink the company her "friends" work for.

>>60179031
That's how mental illness is defined, idiot. Everyone evil will get diagnosed with something, because they don't act human.

People that can't control their actions should git gud and stop doing it.

>>60179201
You mean the fancucks. They have literally no reason to come to this board yet anytime there's any mention of this ho they find their way in.

>>60179206
>That's how mental illness is defined, idiot. Everyone evil will get diagnosed with something, because they don't act human.
what's your diagnosis then

>>60179705
She is literally a vtuber you deranged narcissist

>>60179206
>How am I trying to ruin her life?
you want her to stop vtubing but you justify that as not ruining her life the same way you justify all of your anti activity
you are incapable of realizing that what she did in February does not entitle you to behaving like you do

>>60163939
lel pippa

>>60168017
>men inherently WANT to be providers for a woman
this is stupid, the reasoning behind it is
>i have nothing to offer to her, i will never meet her, she will never interact with me, there's massive competion, the only way to stand out is to give her money

>>60179779
She is mentally ill. Being mentally ill doesn't make her a good person that randomly acts like a piece of shit, it just makes her a piece of shit with a diagnosis.

>>60179822
She is a streamer according to her twitter profile. She has no thread on this board so you have no reason to be here but you still stalk the board for any possible mentions of her because you have nothing else to do.

>>60179938
How am I trying to stop her? She can keep doing whatever she wants. I'm just here to tell you that she doesn't love you. Her loving you is not a requirement for her to do anything.
She doesn't love you by the way. She never loved you.

>>60160240
So what you’re saying is a streamer can’t care about their fans? Of course, once you have convinced yourself of that, it would make sense how you would see every vtuber as manipulative.

>>60179206
You trying to ruin her life by spreading your schizo shit and turning anything she's done into some sort of act of pure evil and malice.
>She tried to sink the company her "friends" work for.
Are you seriously talking about the absurd scenario in which Cover would have been done for had she killed herself and korekore would have released "what she had told him".
For starters, he refused to do that due to her refusing to give the necessary information for a 'revenge suicide'. Neither her intentions or actions were meant as what you are making them out to be, nor would they have lead to anything like that. What she wanted was blatantly obvious, get back at the people who were responsible for her suicide by making them reflect on their actions and the people in the know condemn them for it. Had she wanted anything like you suggest she would have given korekore what would have been needed or for that, or at very least something like a name. Your assumption itself is contradictory to her actions.

>That's how mental illness is defined, idiot. Everyone evil will get diagnosed with something, because they don't act human.
>She is mentally ill. Being mentally ill doesn't make her a good person that randomly acts like a piece of shit, it just makes her a piece of shit with a diagnosis.
You are without a doubt the most insane and evil person on this board. How can you even type something like that without realizing you are projecting your own rotten personality.

>>60180191
There's a massive difference between apperciation and thankfulness compared to pretending to be their literal girlfriend/boyfriend and then breaking every single promise you made to them. The latter is just manipulation for monetary gain.

>>60180310
How am I ruining her life? I'm only saying what has already been said and what anyone that knows the truth about her believes.
>he refused to do that due to her refusing to give the necessary information for a 'revenge suicide'
The mere vague accusation would have been enough to ruin Cover. Hololive simply would not be able to continue with accusations of a talent and part of management bullying someone into suicide.
Given her past and currents actions it's reasonable to believe that she was full of shit. Even if she had killed herself it would not have been anyone else's fault.

>>60180329
If you’re willing to apparently accept that they’re just that, streamers, then you should also accept that these people watching are adults that should look out for themselves. The streamer isn’t responsible for their mental problems and they aren’t their therapist. If someone has a mental illness then it’s on them to solve that or their social circle, not the streamet. Especially if you say that the streamer aren’t part of said social circle you can’t simultaneously claim that they’re responsible for their mental health. They aren’t children, and if they are then their parents should watch over what they consume

>>60180553
Literally what are you on about? You're the one arguing that streamers care about their fans, not me.

>>60180069
>She is a streamer according to her twitter profile. She has no thread on this board so you have no reason to be here but you still stalk the board for any possible mentions of her because you have nothing else to do.
she literally streams as a vtuber
you have no right to claim her as unfit for this board and yet you do so anyway

>>60180069
>How am I trying to stop her? She can keep doing whatever she wants. I'm just here to tell you that she doesn't love you. Her loving you is not a requirement for her to do anything.
>She doesn't love you by the way. She never loved you.
you have specifically argued before about how she should stop vtubing and "get a real job"
your purpose here is to anti her
and you have no right to do so, because the statute of limitations for that expired a long time ago

>>60180553
quiet, faithless boomer schizo
your conceptions of the human condition are medieval

>>60180817
Yeah and if you’re OP or agree with that statement, you’re the one arguing that vtubers should be the personal therapists for their viewers. Fuck off, if they want to play the part of a gf/wife/friend/daughter/sister/pet whatever, then it’s not their fault what some random with a mental illness takes away from it.
That’s like saying video game companies are also responsible for mass shootings if a shooter played fps games at home and should therefore stop making these games to not enable that behavior. See where this logic is going?

>>60180069
>Being mentally ill doesn't make her a good person that randomly acts like a piece of shit, it just makes her a piece of shit with a diagnosis.
there are in fact decent people who occasionally act like pieces of shit due to their mental illness
go outside and meet people

>>60180932
Why would Deet do this...

>>60181083
>play the part
idiot
you have no idea how non-conventional relationships work

>>60181097
Deet has been dead for a month and a half

>>60180819
And? You have no reason to be on this board. You stalk this board 24/7 for mentions about her and nothing else. You are not interested in vtubers and you won't make a thread for her. You have no business here.

>>60181083
How the fuck does that mean I want them to be therapists you fucking psycho? To argue that they care about their fans is closer to wanting them to be therapists and being against that belief.

>>60181091
She is not one of them. Her entire online history is proof of that.

>>60180466
>How am I ruining her life?
By trying to make people hate her.
>I'm only saying what has already been said and what anyone that knows the truth about her believes.
You are one of the very few people who actually believe that.
>The mere vague accusation would have been enough to ruin Cover. Hololive simply would not be able to continue with accusations of a talent and part of management bullying someone into suicide.
It would not have been. Best case scenario the responsible people would have gotten what they deserve. No matter the outcome Cover would have continued on with business just fine. Other companies, smaller and bigger, have proven that. Life isn't a shitty D grade drama manga.
>Given her past and currents actions it's reasonable to believe that she was full of shit. Even if she had killed herself it would not have been anyone else's fault.
I'm looking at her past and current actions and fail to see what would make you think so. Her past? Like the company before Cover? That other members talked badly of too? Seems like if multiple members leaving and talking negatively about your company then your company was shit. And her current actions, what of them makes it reasonable to believe that she was full of shit?
If someone contemplates suicide to the degree of contacting another party as way to get back at her tormentors it's not just safe to assume, it's guaranteed that she wasn't full of shit. Saying that it wouldn't have been someone else's fault if someone was bullied into suicide is ridiculous.
I'll give you a hand so you don't feel as retarded about your inane perception. You could make the argument that her mental illnesses lead her to perceive the harassment much worse than it possibly was. But that still means she was treated badly. Either way, that still wouldn't make her an evil person and there is no logical reason to say she was full of shit, nor would it clear her bullies any of guilt.

>>60181263
I'm not dead though?

Get better bait next time, nigger

>>60181214
Yes, play the part dumbass, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Ironic that you’re arguing about others being mentally ill

>>60181328
I explained it to you retard. OP says that vtubers are responsible for their fans mentally ill behavior, which they can’t possibly be. It’s that simple

>>60181588
Ex-fan? Did you become an anti of her?

>>60181368
you are that schizo
are you going to bring up how she totally should have known about the app being a scam by spending more money on people analyzing it than the deal got her
>i-it was an obvious scam
if it was that obvious to a retard like her then it should have been obvious to everyone else

or her killing an annoying bug and boasting about it with a silly tweet when thousands do the same every day?
>t-t-they don't have so many followers
doesn't make any difference. people and influencers alike tweet about normal daily life shit and that was exactly that
nobody perceived that as a trait of cruelty or evil. the only explanation that you do that is because you are a cruel and evil person

>>60181876
No, I am just assumed dead apparently.

>>60182133
Oh, sorry to hear that. If that matters you are alive to me.

>>60181588
wtf you said you were gonna kill yourself and vanished off the face of the earth
you lying little shit you made me sad fuck you :(

Latest example of this.
Even though they're only in hololive to promote their other project

>>60181277
>won't make a thread for her
apparently you need a thread to qualify as a vtuber now
news to me
schizo

>>60181712
You have no idea how non-conventional relationships work, boomer.

>>60181368
>Her entire online history is proof of that
Actually schizophrenic

>>60182665
>non-conventional relationships
Is this some cope to explain why you're giving your disposable income away in order for some girl on the internet to acknowledge your existence for a few seconds?
Are prostitutes also an example of so called "non-conventional relationships".

>>60182133
I miss making up retarded rrats with you

>>60181447
>By trying to make people hate her.
How is that going to ruin her life? She already told you to fuck off so clearly she can live without you. You're not actually important to her.
>You are one of the very few people who actually believe that.
Literally most people believe it. She is more hated than liked. You are in the minority.
>Best case scenario the responsible people would have gotten what they deserve.
They can't get what they deserve because she never gave any details.All anyone would know is that hololive makes people kill themselves and that's the end for the vtuber group. Thanks Mikeneko.
>Seems like if multiple members leaving and talking negatively about your company then your company was shit.
>it's guaranteed that she wasn't full of shit
She's a known liar who constantly threatens suicide. If she one day just happens to do it that doesn't put any more weight on her accusations.
Why don't you name the bully? She said a senpai caused issues for her and you trust everything she says. Who was it? There had to be someone.

>>60182879
no it means that if you think romantic love has to be 1 to 1 in the conventional sense then you don't understand what romantic love is

>>60181775
>OP says that vtubers are responsible for their fans mentally ill behavior
What? OP doesn't state that anywhere. He is just calling manipulators like Rushia disgusting. That's not demanding her to be a therapist.

>>60182015
Her saying everyone shitting on her will be a criminal when she kills herself over being called a scammer is shit person behavior. The accusations she made about hololive were very similar.

>>60183039
>They can't get what they deserve because she never gave any details.All anyone would know is that hololive makes people kill themselves and that's the end for the vtuber group. Thanks Mikeneko.
name a single massive billion dollar company that went under over a single suicide

>>60182599
I'm questioning your presence on the board and not her being a vtuber. I would still say she's not a vtuber because she cams and calls herself a streamer to fit in with other people who call themselves streamers but that's besides the point.
You have no actual reason to be here. You just stalk this board 24/7 for mentions of her because you have nothing else to do with your time. You are not allowed to watch or like other vtubers so you can't be here for them.

>>60160240
Gura is probably the most relevant example of this.

>>60183211
This isn't about the company, it's about the vtuber group that you claim to be a fan of. How is hololive supposed to continue when any of them could be the horrible bully that made Rushit kill herself?

>>60183039
>How is that going to ruin her life?
>Literally most people believe it. She is more hated than liked. You are in the minority.
By attempting to worsen her reputation by echoing the bullshit antis said in February which has been since disproven in the eyes of the public. Only you and a few other delusional schizos hold on to it
>She already told you to fuck off so clearly she can live without you. You're not actually important to her.
You are again ignoring any context or the circumstances to something fit your narrative.
>They can't get what they deserve because she never gave any details.
Yes they would have by being condemned by the people in the know (not the public). The public knowing there is _something_ merely serves as a way to guarantee the needed pressure on the people in the know to act.
>All anyone would know is that hololive makes people kill themselves and that's the end for the vtuber group.
Literally nobody would give a shit and if Cover later on would have put out a statement that they have dealt with the people responsible, they would have even gotten praise for avenging a victim of bullying.
>She's a known liar
Everybody lies and I have yet to see her tell a lie out of malice.
>who constantly threatens suicide
That's what suicidal and mentally ill people do
>Why don't you name the bully? She said a senpai caused issues for her and you trust everything she says. Who was it? There had to be someone.
She didn't name someone back then why would she name one now? It's not about trust. There certainly was someone, else nothing of that would have ever happened.

>>60182879
Cuckoldry is an example of a non-conventional relationship.

>>60183118
>if you think romantic love has to be 1 to 1
oh god it's worse
you're trying to justify being a literal cuck

>>60183669
via an internal investigation that then shows that ru was off her fucking meds when she made the accusation you dumbfuck
something she herself admitted to early on and said that she was in a delirious state and detached from reality and regrets it
fucking disingenuous retard

>>60183821
>>60183793
you have no idea what cuckoldry is
sexless relationships exist

>>60183204
And that's correct they would be. Notice something? She said something in response to her being bullied and wrongfully called a scammer. If you say the accusations were similar that's because the conditions under which she made them were too.

>>60183619
>I have no reason to be on this board
you have literally no clue what I do on this board and I don't intend to tell you because you would just be the utmost of faggots and carry over your insults from here to unrelated threads I make
because you are EXACTLY that kind of fucking troglodyte
I have a vested interest in vtubing culture as I believe that parasocial romantic relationships are the next step in human evolution

>>60183724
>By attempting to worsen her reputation by echoing the bullshit antis said
Firstly, it's not bullshit because it actually happaned and secondly all the damage that could be done has already been done. She is blacklisted by the wider streamer "industry"
>has been since disproven in the eyes of the public
But it hasn't. All you have said is "she said so, so it's not true" without any actual proof. The public believes she wanted to date mafumafu and failed. Most people still hate her.
>Yes they would have by being condemned by the people in the know (not the public).
Nobody was condemned based on her accusations even with what happened so clearly nobody knew what she meant. If she had actually killed herself the blame would have affected everyone.
>I have yet to see her tell a lie out of malice.
Why did she accuse hololive staff and a senpai of mistreating her when it wasn't true? That's malicious.
>That's what suicidal and mentally ill people do
It's also what horrible manipulators do.
>She didn't name someone back then why would she name one now?
According to you she wouldn't lie about something like that. Even if she doesn't name one you should be able to figure it all out with your genius detectince powers that made you confirm that she did not love mafumafu.

>>60183971
In the relationship you have she seeks from men other than you with your permission, so it's cuckoldry.

>>60161287
>dilusional

>>60161865
>It's not manipulation but a honest projection of their beliefs.
I guess thats why I watch NL so much

>Politician pretends they they actually care about their supporters
Is there anything more disgusting than this?

>>60184173
If you love her you wouldn't be on this board because it has no actual discussion relating to her and you have no reason to talk about other vtubers.
You really are just a fucking schizo.

I almost feel bad for those niggas who only watch liggers and holo, who've never had a chat read without paying and who've never had a streamer welcome you, get to know you and worry if you couldn't watch for a period of time
These same bastards will say it's "grooming" just to cope. They can't swallow the indiepill because they got the hollyjew POPULAR=GOOD mind virus. Sucks to be them

>>60161287
>dilusional
Also
>Meeting and flirting with fuckboy male
>Risks it all talking to dramatubers despite being near promised safety so long as she shuts up
>Drops her fans 4 more times between 2 different re-incarnations
>Most recent yab had her just straight leaving everyone until they forget

>>60184173
>parasocial relationships are the next step to human evolution
Maybe to human trash such as you. Don't include the rest of humanity in your fucked up delusion.

>>60184742
The only relationship she sought was from a man she pursued for roughly 3 months because she is a schizo who believed that her fans had already more-or-less broken up with her. She had even said as much at one point during a post stream zatsu, I remember commenting on it in a Rushia general at the time saying something like "it almost sounded like she was serious when she said that she felt like the love was gone" and another anon who I believe was the anon who would later be known as TLanon by the people who couldn't understand Japanese at the time said that it wasn't a light hearted comment and that she actually meant it.
I do not forgive her for that, and I doubt I ever will. But I am at least grateful for her giving us a sense of closure and understanding for why she did what she did when she didn't have to since she did so at a time when she had already lost most if
not all of the people she could lose because of it.
At no point since then has she given any indication nor has obsessive stalking revealed anything even resembling a hint of similar behavior.
Male collabs and lies are a whole other ball game. Strictly speaking, I have talked to her on voice chat and in dms just like the other men she has talked to. And I'm far from a favorite of hers. Quite the opposite, in fact.

>>60184697
>Firstly, it's not bullshit because it actually happaned and secondly all the damage that could be done has already been done. She is blacklisted by the wider streamer "industry"
It is bullshit because you are distorting what happened and turning it into something that it never was nor was her intention. Even before she said anything about that people were already calling you and the other antis out for it, and I am not talking about her fans calling people out, literally curiois drama onlookers and none vtube watchers were and still are. She is blacklisted by whatever mafumafu is able to influence
>But it hasn't. All you have said is "she said so, so it's not true" without any actual proof.
Your proof consists entirely of wrong and straight up disingenuous interpretations of events or her character,without any reasonable or logical explanation that is comprehensible by a normal human being, while other anons and I have provided the opposite.
>The public believes she wanted to date mafumafu and failed.
That is irrelevant to public opinion of her, actually it isn't it, makes people feel bad for her
>Most people still hate her.
That is based on your perception and you are only seeing what you want to see
>Why did she accuse hololive staff and a senpai of mistreating her when it wasn't true? That's malicious.
Because it was true, whether or not it was as bad as she perceived it due to her mental illnesses is up for debate but that still doesn't make it malicious.
>It's also what horrible manipulators do.
Which she is not as we've already established without you being able to refute it. All you do is drop insult after insult without a single coherent argument.
>According to you she wouldn't lie about something like that. Even if she doesn't name one you should be able to figure it all out with your genius detectince powers that made you confirm that she did not love mafumafu.
Can you write or come up with something of substance? Anything? I'm starting to believe you are some sort AI project

>>60181588
Well, you should come call Mikeneko a lying whore sometime to let us know you're okay

>>60185137
>If you love her you wouldn't be on this board because it has no actual discussion
What is this thread?
>you have no reason to talk about other vtubers.
I talk about vtubing culture at large.
I also monitor threads of other GFE vtubers and I chime in when they seem stressed out over irrational overreactions to try and help anons work through it so that they do not sabotage their relationship.
I cherish the very idea of vtubers being romantically in love with their audience.
Do not speak for me or for my activities here, just because you only know me for my open disgust at your spiteful hate mongering does not mean that is my only state.

>Got thrown out of the Blue Dorito
>Ducked out of her Mike persona and ditched her fandom to be Kson's +1
>Ducked out of her Naz persona and ditched her fandom to debut her "not Rushia" model on Mike
>Ducked out of her Not Rushia Mike model to do 3D work as Naz

Honestly anyone who is still her fan after all of this deserves the abuse and extorsion

I'm not wasting my time in these threads but it's insane to me that the exact same schizo anti has managed to argue about things he doesn't really understand for about 8 hours straight.
Rushiaschizo: if you want to be an actually good anti, the first step is learning Japanese. The second is actually watching the person you're anti-ing instead of getting all of your information from glueing yourself to the 4chan catalog in much the same barnacles glue themselves to the bottom of a boat. The third is admitting to being an anti instead of your usual sad LARP about how presenting a one sided, typically negative view about a person without even attempting to humour the other side with even the tiniest of concessions when you are wrong is somehow not the type of actions than an anti would take. Fourthly, how about actually watching the streams of your oshi instead of wasting your entire life shitting up keijaban. And fifthly, you should try your best to find the chickens (the ones that are under the boat)
The only good thing about the existence of Rushiaschizo is that he somehow manages to make Fandead seem sane in comparison, although considering her 5ch antis are already posting in bait threads to spread their cuckoldry, I had assumed that this lesson would have already been learned.

>>60185137
This is just a tsundere way of asking her fans to set up their general again, isn't it?
I assume a few of them might read this post of yours and they can decide if they'll start to make their general again. If they do, you can feel proud that you've made a difference

>>60186035
The world is being torn apart at the seams from the compound stress of 10 billion hairline fractures and you have the gall to think everything is fine.
I'm happy if you're free of misery but misery has no right to exist period, not just for you.

>>60186180
>Nobody was condemned based on her accusations even with what happened so clearly nobody knew what she meant. If she had actually killed herself the blame would have affected everyone.
Positions within the company opened up without them expanding in those areas.
>If she had actually killed herself the blame would have affected everyone.
You are out of your mind if you actually believe that. Why don't you have a look at other companies and see how incidents like that turned out for them?

>>60186044
So the point in time change again. Epic. Why can't you just stay consistent?

>>60186796
he just wants to cuckpost there despite claiming repeatedly that he totally doesn't do that

>>60186826
Name other vtuber companies where someone blamed the staff and talents for their suicide and everyone carried on as usual. You can't.

>>60186431
>What is this thread?
A thread you camped the board for over a week to get into. You accuse others of doing the very thing you're guilty of.

>>60186864
Do you want me to link you all of the posts ITT that I made about this topic so that you can converse with me without conflating my posts with others?
I'll even namefag if you want me to. I'm tired of getting called inconsistent when I have been anything but.
This isn't some zinger, I am seriously asking. It's very annoying having you think you have a gotcha moment over a post that isn't mine. I want to at least attempt to argue in good faith. Even though you do nothing but assume that I only lie, so realistically I have no idea how much you even give a fuck.

>>60186867
But anon, don't you understand? He had to break his rules to cuckpost in the general the last time because she had the absolute gall of streaming the game with Marine in it. That was a crime that was so terrible that he had to cuckpost in the general for hours about it and cry and screech like a child.
I may still be in the position where I'll likely never forgive her for all of the shit she pulled in August, but I still noticed that retarded faggot taking the opportunity to cuckpost in the general right around that time and I hope that karma strikes and his penis falls off for pulling that shit despite "not posting in the general"

>>60187040
>A thread you camped the board for over a week to get into. You accuse others of doing the very thing you're guilty of.
You are the most mentally ill person here if you keep insisting that literally all my activity on this board revolves around her even after I specifically explained to you that it does not.

>>60160240
Here's the thing, early on they DO care about fans, especially as 2view. As number increases, names became a blur and chat become one blob entity until some of them tried to stand out again with memberships and superchats/donos.
This is just human psychology. It is statistically and biologically possible for you to care about some fans, maybe tens of them, but not hundreds or thousands.

>>60187087
You cuckolds called each other over from your discord and you can't even decide what's true. I don't give a shit if you didn't say the thing the other guy said. I treat you faggots all the same. You're all stupid cucks who can't let go because you're about to cross another 10k spend on your """wife""".

>>60187215
You literally just went over how all of your activity is related to her and what she does. You're here to defend cuckolds similar to yourself to feel validated. It's all self-serving.

>>60186929
What kind of company it is does not matter. If you want an example of a bigger company then look at Activision. They are still making billions without giving a fuck and that incident was barely even the top of the iceberg.

>>60186796
Nah, it's taunting you for being the dickless cuckolds you are. You're stuck in your cuckord for a good reason. Everyone hates you and your whore.

>>60187115
The "keep your whore away from Marine" one was the funniest one of his posts in that general to me
>HOW DARE SHE PLAY A VIDEO GAME THAT FEATURES A HOLOLIVE CHARACTER THAT IS MY OSHI AAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEIIIIIIII
he doesn't "spread facts", he just doesn't know how to let go of hatred. Even if a person apologized, even if a person was mentally fucked beyond all reason, even if the event in question happened 2 years ago and didn't result in anything bad for Hololive(yes, there is a difference between a seeming attempt and an event actually occurring, both legally AND in the court of public opinion)
He still has not stopped hating her as much as he did from the day he started, since the only metric with which to measure that is his post quantity and overall vitriol, which has remained constant
Actual gachikoi have forgiven her over a year ago. And yet here he is. As vile as he was in the early months of 2021. Without even knowing why.

>>60187471
It absolutely does matter because with Activision literally nobody gives a shit. the developers are not the game. They are ALL replaceable in the eyes of the average consumer.
When it comes to vtubers you cannot replace the people and you can't repair the environment if their group gets accused of making someone kill themselves.
You're going to claim it's all the same because you never actually enjoyed hololive.

>>60187472
How come you are the only person who keeps saying that then? Where are all the anons jumping in agreeing with you? Where is all that hatred?
>inb4 shitposters now jumping in now

>>60187282
>All GFE is cuckoldry
the homobeggar reveals himself at last.

>>60187543
>Actual gachikoi have forgiven her over a year ago.
Actual gachikoi gave up on her two months ago when she told them to fuck off. She is still friends with Kirsch despite your protests.

jesus, this nigger is still at it after 2 years?

>>60187609
This thread has had several people calling your "wife" a liar who never cared about you. If you made a thread you'd be driven out of the board within a few hours.

>>60187661
This board draws in the garbage of the human race. Of course he is.

>>60187241
>You cuckolds called each other over from your discord and you can't even decide what's true
I already told you I was excommunicated from her community. I have nobody to call and I have no need to call anybody else. I know more than you and am enough to handle your vile nonsense on my own. Because you are more of a liar than her, and at least she has emotions. Unlike you.

>>60187579
The developers are the game. Look how people cheered when a certain developer returned to the company or when they cried when another left.
>When it comes to vtubers you cannot replace the people and you can't repair the environment if their group gets accused of making someone kill themselves.
Only in your head, and "the group" wasn't accused.

>>60187722
If you know so much why is your story completely different from the other cucks? It's all coming across like you all make up your own "truth" and consider it good enough as long as none of you says she cheated on you so you can feel comfortable about throwing another thousand at her.

>>60187820
>The developers are the game.
They're not to the the average consumer and they're completely replaceable to the company. They don't even care who's making the game. Triple A games sell regardless of drama as long as they get good press for the game.
>"the group" wasn't accused.
As long as the "perpetrator" remains unnamed, anyone fitting the description she gave (senpai) can get the blame.
You already default to always blaming every single manager for being a horrible abusive rapist because of her hatred for her own manager. You just don't dare to do that to hololive members because that would make you hated.

>>60187711
Catalog shitposters don't qualify because they neither believe in what they shitpost about nor do they care. They don't feel hatred towards her, else they would be arguing about it like you.

>>60188163
They do qualify because they represent the public opinion of passerbys. They're not convinced that she loves you so they make claims specific to her instead of being like the actual catalog shitposters who just make sweeping statements about all vtubers.

>>60187711
Naught but a single solitary anti schizo has remained here throughout this entire thread.
Just like every single other thread.

>>60188350
And? Several other people still showed up to call you out.

>>60188289
Several passerby posters have also insulted people who don't believe in GFE like yourself. In roughly equal measure, homobeggar.
Anti-unicorn=anti-Hololive, FYI
Or did you forget that time Marine said that she wouldn't get a boyfriend to learn English because it would make her fans sad and that she couldn't have that? Early 2021, if memory serves me right. Although maybe you have a better date, given how she is your supposed oshi?

>>60188099
And Hololive sells regardless of drama as long as they get good press for their content which they still would regardless of what could have theoretically happened in your inane mind
>As long as the "perpetrator" remains unnamed, anyone fitting the description she gave (senpai) can get the blame.
For complete schizos like yourself that spend their entire day spreading bullshit and hatred over 1 1/2 years later. Everyone else wouldn't give a shit after a week and continue on enjoying the content just as they have always done.
>You already default to always blaming every single manager for being a horrible abusive rapist because of her hatred for her own manager. You just don't dare to do that to hololive members because that would make you hated.
What? Plenty of managers get shit on here all the time and you seem to have forgotten a few incidents that involved managers

>>60188462
They would call out any GFE vtuber. Because they are heartless. Much like you.

>>60188099
>You already default to always blaming every single manager for being a horrible abusive rapist because of her hatred for her own manager.
When

>>60188289
They don't because the OP set the tone of the thread. Due to the nature of /vt/ you are going to get only shitposts and few with a strong opinion, as pointed out already, you are the only one arguing so the only one actually having a strong opinion on it is you.

>>60188539
Proof that I don't believe in GFE, please. Proof that I'm anti-unicorn. I'm anti-cucks like the ones that watch EN and keep calling vtubers like Bae GFE even after several homo collabs. They unironically will tell you that what happens off stream doesn't matter for a GFE vtuber so you should not care if yout "wife" plays games with men. You are very similar to them.

>>60188591
But they don't. OP presents an opportunity to shit on all of them, and some do while others specifically point to your "wife" as someone that doesn't care about her fans.

>>60188553
>Hololive sells regardless of drama as long as they get good press
There won't be anything to sell when they flat out don't stream or do anything else over the stress from antis spamming them.
>j-j-just get over it!
Nah, as long as you refuse to address her claim as either an outright lie or you name the so called bully, it will keep getting brought up.
>Plenty of managers get shit on here all the time
Yeah when they actually do something wrong. You don't even like hololive but take part in hololive discussions just to keep shitting on management even if some of the girls like their managers.

>>60188645
Whenever there's an opportunity, like a thread about someone being unhappy about something. "Rushia said managers are shit" comes up all the time.

>>60188827
They qualify and represent the public opinion. They're all literally just saying what they think of her.

>>60189106
>There won't be anything to sell when they flat out don't stream or do anything else over the stress from antis spamming them.
They have done and would have continued to regardless. Hololive is a business and not a family, you delusional schizo.
>Nah, as long as you refuse to address her claim as either an outright lie or you name the so called bully, it will keep getting brought up.
By relentless schizos like yourself. Just like the numbers of her antis have decreased from thousands to a handful despite her being alone, Hololive would have accompished even more within days.
>You don't even like hololive but take part in hololive discussions just to keep shitting on management even if some of the girls like their managers.
Some are not all and you ignore even the incidents everyone knows about. And aside from mentioning it after you brought it up I have never even commented on the subjet nor partaking in anything like that. Want to know why? Because unlike you, I am not a schizo driven by hatred and evil

>>60189200
/vt/ isn't the public opinion, much less so a thread which only exists to shit on someone or rather said specifically rushia
that is called a circlejerk

>>60189441
>Hololive is a business and not a family
But it doesn't sell if they don't have the image of being a family.
I see you've once again deflected so I'm just going to take that as an admission that she lied when she accused management and a senpai of giving her shit.

>>60189699
You're right. Mikeneko is loved and that's why she was kicked out of an apex tournament. The only people on her side are the scummiest men and you're the one who called them scum.

>>60189712
It still does despite that image being long gone.
>I see you've once again deflected so I'm just going to take that as an admission that she lied when she accused management and a senpai of giving her shit.
I have already made logical and convincing points as to why you are wrong and all you say is
>n-no you are wrong
without an actual valid reason or making a solid argument.
And you accusing someone of deflecting is the peak of irony. I'll accept that as you admitting defeat.
>>60189807
>You're right. Mikeneko is loved and that's why she was kicked out of an apex tournament.
She was kicked out because of mafumafu
>The only people on her side are the scummiest men and you're the one who called them scum.
Nobody who called them scum claimed them to be on her side

>>60190163
>you are wrong
What am I wrong about? She either lied or was bullied by a senpai that should be blamed for causing one of her mental breakdowns. You need to choose which one is true.
>She was kicked out because of mafumafu
Proof? He wasn't at the event and isn't affiliated with the organization that was running the event.
>Nobody who called them scum claimed them to be on her side
Doesn't matter when they're still the only people that are on her side publically. You think they are scum even though they're her friends and she doesn't care about what you say about them. So much for being in love with you.

>>60190488
>was bullied by a senpai that should be blamed for causing one of her mental breakdowns.
That is ture. At least pretend you read the posts you reply to. It has already been explained numerous times in this very thread and yet you refuse to accept anything without making a single reasonable point
>Proof? He wasn't at the event and isn't affiliated with the organization that was running the event.
Take a closer look at the event then. Management agreeing to the participation and giving the participants the OK to announce it but hours later revoking that is proof enough that outside interference changed the decision. You don't have to look far to find what everyone pointed out within seconds
>Doesn't matter when they're still the only people that are on her side publically.
But they're not the only people, they are just some ofthe people who took that side for clout
>You think they are scum even though they're her friends and she doesn't care about what you say about them. So much for being in love with you.
You don't seem to know anything about this aside from what people posted /here/ so I'll leave you with your delusions.
Cya next time and there will be a next time. A schizo fueled by hatred that spends his life trying to ruin the life of others for years will surely be around as long as their mother endures their presence

>>60191106
>It has already been explained numerous times in this very thread
All you did was minimize it and kind of accidentally make her out to be malicious even though you were claiming the opposite.
>Take a closer look at the event then.
Post the proof. I already looked at it. He is not affiliated with the event. If everyone pointed something out "withing seconds" you should be able to do it right now as well, but you won't.
>But they're not the only people
They are the only people at that event siding with her as far as I know.
>they are just some ofthe people who took that side for clout
There's no clout to be had siding with her.
You really dislike her friends and speak badly of them. She will continue to associate them despite all of the kicking and screaming you do.

>>60160240
>Is there anything more disgusting than this?
No? Am not watching them for their clever humor or riveting gameplay, least they could do is fake interest.

>>60187822
>If you know so much why is your story completely different from the other cucks?
scanning over the posts, I see no drastic story difference except one dude who says that her playing platonically with mafumafu was okay(this was one post. ONE)
here is the timeline of events as I have assembled them based on on-stream evidence, accounts from relevant parties during the yab, context clues from both rushia streams and rushia membership posts that coincide temporally with dates mentioned during the yab, and further information given by Mikeneko over the course of the year following the yab

>Late 2020: She moves away from her parents and her childhood friend to Tokyo for Hololive, which takes a then comparatively drastic toll on her mental health as she feels incredibly isolated. This compounds with previous stress she had felt due to her friend having married recently. She brings this up semi regularly. She locks her Mikeneko twitter account and begins removing new followers, although the process is slow and goes on for months afterwards in waves.
>Late December 2020: Mafu2 invites Mike to a dinner and they go out, ends disastrously, he forbids her from ever meeting him in person again
>January 2021: Mikeneko tweets that she has decided to marry her fans because she knows that they truly love her. It is around this point that she begins doing Twitcasts regularly(this is another strong point in favor of the "post mafu date is when she truly fell in love with her fans)
>Early 2021(exact month escapes me, around March): Rushias then highest donor sends her a red superchat saying that she has changed and that he is leaving her, which prompts a mental breakdown and a several day hiatus
>May 2021: Rushia increasingly openly doomposting about how Fandead are going to leave her and how there isn't any love anymore, as well as signs of deteriorating mental health visible on stream with her going so far as to cancel streams over the slightest criticism(she at one point even got drunk one time despite almost never drinking and split her head open from passing out from the stress and mental strain). Around this time and immediately afterwards is when we begin to see signs of intense delusional paranoia appear in her thinking that was never there prior(see infamous miko FAQ membership post meme)
>June 2021: At some point re-establishes contact with mafumafu and asks to play Apex whole considering pursuing a relationship with him, and also contacts korekore again in order to ask for his relationship history
>This progresses into an attempt to build it into an actual relationship over the course of the latter half of June, July, August, and first half of September.
>Latter portion of September 2021 to October 2021: her childhood cat first shows signs of being ill, which she obfuscates(poorly) on her Twitcasts. Her mood takes a drastic turn for the worse. Apex activity on her account stops almost entirely. Her mental decline rapidly becomes increasingly dire. She becomes increasingly dependent on her fans to maintain even a modicum of stability.
(cont.)

>>60160240
I'm actually friends with my oshi though, we hang out on discord and play games together off stream

>>60187822
continuation of >>60192863
>Novermber 2021: Her cat dies. Her mental health collapses to the point of near constant suicidal ideation. Kson and some others try to comfort her but her mental state is so abysmal that it makes the people who try to comfort her become suicidal too. Coupled with forcing herself to participate in Fan Fun Island without revealing the news about the death of her cat, her mental state collapses. Her delusional behavior has at this point become a frequent mainstay of her behavior, to at times an absolutely shocking degree and at obvious odds with reality. She regularly discusses her suicidal ideation, hospital visits, etc. It is around this time that she is formally diagnosed with manic-depressive disorder. She can barely function and will occasionally have streams where she simply shuts down mid-stream for no apparent reason. Her schedule becomes increasingly erratic and spontaneous even for her, her insomnia becomes chronic. She also begins to occasionally hide or obfuscate details about the severity of her condition. Her dependency on her fans increases to far more excessive levels (you can actually see a lot of the inner workings of her mind as it relates to her fans by following the frequency of distribution of her twitcasts over the course of 2021). Her paranoid delusions about her fans cheating on her or leaving her leak out more often, compounded by the debut of HoloX and Orca, her biggest superchatter, tweeting about Chloe. Earlier this month or the previous one(exactly which of the two I do not recall but can fetch if you desire) she reiterates on her twitcast that she is our girlfriend on a Twitcast, which she had never said quite as brazenly before although she had allude to as much prior, insisting that it isn't roleplay and that the relationship between her and us is different from other streamers.
November is also the month where she complains about trouble at work with a colleague and that she doesn't know how to resolve it on Twitcast(she never mentioned Hololive by name because...autism, honestly). Of course, this is also the month that she approaches kore2 again, asking him about (presumably) those same troubles in her workplace but (presumably) in some greater degree of detail.
>December 2021: Symptoms of the previous month either persist or worsen. Mostly worsen. Her suicidal ideation worsens, and her dependency on her fans increases even more dramatically, although her paranoia over them leaving her seems(keyword) to abate as she openly states that she believes that they will never leave her and that she repeats that she truly is their girlfriend as we meet Christmas together. This is the first time she says "Aishiteru" to us on Twitcast, adding the caveat that she knows that we will never leave her.
>January 2022: She sends kore2 another communication in order to reinstate communication as her worries about her workplace dispute and suicidal ideation as well as general paranoia and willpower are at the lowest they had ever been at. She cycles through extremely depressed and manic phases with highs and lows greater in scope than ever before outside of immediately following her cats death.
>February 2022: I don't think I have to rehash this. I can maybe mention that one of the few twitcasts she did prior to the yab, she discussed staring out on her patio wondering if it would kill her if she jumped. This was days prior to the Discord message.

I intended to add additional information about her tweet admitting to being extremely mentally compromised at the time and apologizing for it while saying she never would have done it in normal circumstances on her locked sub at the time during an 炎上 outburst, various references to her feelings about her fans and dog whistles as to her reasoning for what she did, and of course her twitcast sometime in...October or November? 2022, when she twitcasted from the hospital. Where she spent an hour feebly apologizing in tears to her fans, saying she literally wants to dogeza to us for seeking out comfort in a moment of weakness when she believed that we had abandoned her, and throwing out memorabilia she had from around that time because of how awful she felt for what she had done to us.
But I've written enough already.
I don't expect you to appreciate or even consider what I wrote, but if there is any part of you that appreciates a person's good faith attempt at communicating with you, I hope that this can reach you.
And if not...well, I can't change you. In the end the only thing a person can do is hope.

>>60192863
This
>May 2021: Rushia increasingly openly doomposting about how Fandead are going to leave her and how there isn't any love anymore
was used several times to justify this
>Late December 2020: Mafu2 invites Mike to a dinner and they go out
In your timeline of events there is no justification for it again. No, claiming that he invited her isn't justification. If she was serious about loving you and everything she had said she wouldn't have done it.

>>60188831
>Proof that I don't believe in GFE, please. Proof that I'm anti-unicorn.
what was this then >>60187282
because it was a reply to this >>60186431
which contains
>I also monitor threads of other GFE vtubers and I chime in when they seem stressed out over irrational overreactions to try and help anons work through it so that they do not sabotage their relationship.
>I cherish the very idea of vtubers being romantically in love with their audience.
Unless you believe that every GFE fanbase that ever freaks out freaks out over valid reasons? In which case, you are incorrect.

>>60193152
>January 2021: Mikeneko tweets that she has decided to marry her fans because she knows that they truly love her. It is around this point that she begins doing Twitcasts regularly(this is another strong point in favor of the "post mafu date is when she truly fell in love with her fans)

>>60193363
>what was this then
A reaction to this
>I chime in when they seem stressed out over irrational overreactions to try and help anons work through it so that they do not sabotage their relationship.
What you mean by that is you help them build the same kind of sheep mentality you enforced in the rushia threads where no one is allowed to call out anything suspicious so everyone can feel safe and comfy about the thousands they've spent on a liar.
Are you saying that freaking out over lying about playing around with men is invalid?

>>60193417
So she was lying about loving you until that point.

tl;dr, this freak needs to be locked in a mental asylum, not further enabled by her just as mentally-ill fans

all this “im gonna save her” bs is literally just making the problem worse

>>60193677
Your opinion is invalid.

>>60193616
remember those posts in /hlg/ from eons ago pre-/vt/ days about how Rushia "fell for her own kayfabe"?
I think that expecting her to truly fall in love with her own audience from the outset is somewhat ridiculous, don't you think?
Go back and watch how long it took for her to drop her actual unironic nanodesu kayfabe. Then add in the confusion a menhera must have felt as she was drowned in that much love. Remember how she didn't even feel like Hololive was "real" until mid 2020(when she quit her dayjob)
And then throw in her constant worries over ending up alone, fueled by her childhood friends marriage at around that same time, which made her further menhera about it, and then her move to Tokyo which made her feel incredibly isolated and then have her receive an invitation...
Let me paraphrase kore2; I think Rushia was fond of Fandead.
I think she fell truly in love with them when she realized that they were what she wanted all along; somebody who truly, truly loved her.
And that is why the GFE turned truly, properly menhera following the start of 2021. She had never been truly hardcore serious about the "don't watch other girls" stuff until then.
And then...I detailed the rest already. In the end she found the love truly fit for her, only for her mental illness to prompt her into ripping it apart herself.
Have you read King Lear, by any chance?

>>60160240
Yes
>want the vtuber audience without acting like a vtuber

>>60194397
If she actually loved you she wouldn't done a fraction of the things she did. She only keeps reassuring you that she loves you because she needs your money.

>>60194551
I tried. If all you think of everything I wrote as being just another lie, I can't change that. But I poured my heart into telling you everything I saw as it happened, and that is the truth. I wish I could show you the memories burned into my brain but I can only say that I tried my best to, even if you despise me.

>>60193548
>What you mean by that is you help them build the same kind of sheep mentality you enforced in the rushia threads where no one is allowed to call out anything suspicious so everyone can feel safe and comfy about the thousands they've spent on a liar.
>Are you saying that freaking out over lying about playing around with men is invalid?
....No. I despise collabs with men.
I mean actually insignificant stuff like when the shondo thread had a meltdown when she re-opened her marshmallos

>>60194925
She doesn't love you and never did. She wants to live in luxury while hanging out with male streamers. Pretending to give a shit about you is the ticket there since you will never see her for what she is.

>>60195059
>....No. I despise collabs with men.
But that's exactly the kind of shit you shouted down in the rushia threads. You couldn't say she is playing off-stream with a man because then someone might stop donating to her and actually it's totally ok because it's not a male collab at all. Joining male totsu is also ok because it's not really a collab.

>>60195093
Anon, she told me to my face that she hated me after I self harmed down the street and posted pictures of it on 5ch because of how painful it was for me. I was later hospitalized.
I am not doing this for her. I am doing this because the truth is less cruel than you believe. And the truth matters to me very, very much.

>>60195316
Yeah she does hate you. She never liked you.

>>60195218
I was the first person to DM her about being uncomfortable with her playing off-stream with kusoneko.
I was the first person to blow up publicly on Twitter over the totsu.
You know not who you speak to.

>>60195413
I don't give a shit. I know what kind of environment was enforced in the threads.
Saying anything about kusoneko got one branded as a "schizo anti" and it all turned out be correct, she was playing with him all that time when everyone said she definitely wasn't and that you shouldn't even think about it.
That's the kind of shit I think of when I hear
>I chime in when they seem stressed out over irrational overreactions

>>60195390
She did like me, once. When I blew up over the totsu, she did an immediate twitcast and spent half of it dejected, saying that she never wanted to hurt a fan who had supported her for so long.
I was not present. When it started, I sent one message "I had some points left over, have them. Good bye".
And then I closed the tab.
I was one person amidst a sea of people telling her to reject me, and she didn't listen to a single one of them. Nor was I a particularly large donor.

fundead still exist? lmao

>>60195596
I could tell you much more about how your perceptions are incorrect, but the biggest irony will always be that you calling it a cuck cord when it was the exact and total opposite.
public and private discourse are different for a reason.

>>60195783
yep and they will never stop defending their investement

>>60195894
What's incorrect about my perception?
>>/jp/thread/40744419
This is just one of many threads where bringing up her playing apex with men is met with pure hostility. Don't talk about it or you're an "drama stirrer". The language there is obvious. Having concerns is NOT ALLOWED because actually it's completely unreasonable to even suspect her of doing anything like that. Trust wife.
>public and private discourse are different for a reason.
Is this you admitting that you intentionally shout down anyone bringing that stuff up in public? That just confirms what I said. You try to control what anyone is allowed to think of her. The public front is supposed to be nothing but nodding along and pretending like everything is all right.
It is totally a cuck cord when you try to control the public information about her through your little private cabal so that nobody can find out what she's really like.