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59844227 No.59844227 [Reply] [Original]

Crazy how Tempus kind of just faded away after these two left

>> No.59844311

They didn't fade away, you just noticed them less because the remaining ones aren't leeches and you don't watch homos. If you don't notice them, they're doing their job properly

>> No.59844462

>>59844227
What's funny is how nobody is saying shit about them at all, no one
Compare that to Sana who had several girls mentioning her for over a year after her graduation
EVEN MOTHERFUCKING RUSHIA HAD MORE MENTIONS THAN THOSE RETARDS

>> No.59844555

>>59844227
who are these people? some fanart?

>> No.59844716

and yet still rent free in your head somehow

>> No.59844728

They were the two big tumors in Tempiss while mostly everybody else keeps to themselves. Except the blue homo I guess but he hasn't been leeching off the girls in a while.

>> No.59844758

>>59844716
Nothing wrong about laughing at a bunch of failures you fatherless cunt.

>> No.59844820

>>59844227
>Bitch about noticing them
>Bitch about not noticing them

>> No.59844856

When these two go to VShojo, I wonder which Tempus with be the Luca.

>> No.59844894

>>59844758
Projecting a little there, anon?

>> No.59845039

>>59844227
It's just /vt/ jumping to something else to be schizo about.

>> No.59845196

>>59844227
Clearly not seeing how you're still posting them.

>> No.59845203

>>59844227
It had been fading for months, it just stabilized in it's own corner now.

>> No.59845224

>>59844856
qrd? I dont even get what this means

>> No.59845250

isn't the clown guy the only one who can pull over 1k on solo streams anymore

>> No.59845383

>>59844227
they seemed to be the most popular and most talked about but they weren't even the most subbed in tempus

>> No.59846075

>>59844462
So you're saying you have no clue what you're talking about

>> No.59846431
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59846431

>>59844462
Well, no. They don't mention them constantly or anything, but Hakka gave magmites and vesties a home on most of his streams since they left. Which is pretty cute of him. And Altare choked up a bit after singing a Magni song on a recent karaoke. He mentioned how the last few months have been hard because of having to hold certain things in.

>> No.59846526

>>59844227
Who?

>> No.59846581

>>59844758
hows the weather in jakarta?

>> No.59846682

>>59844227
That's for the best, that branch just became what its JP counterpart has always been. As long as they stay on their lane, they do whatever the fuck they want. The problem was the two faggots who couldn't get themselves to apply this rule.

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>>59844227
As things should be

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>>59844227
We never got a second annual Worms tourney.

>> No.59847060

>>59844227
>incessant schizoid shitposting stops
>tempus faded away
imaging being a catalogshittter

>> No.59847214

>>59846682
>That's for the best, that branch just became what its JP counterpart has always been.
A 3view money drain?

>> No.59847292

>>59847214
>money drain
proof?

>> No.59847473
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59847473

Unichads won.

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>>59847214
How much money do you think Cover is putting into them? They haven't even had a second outfit. They pay for their own songs like everyone else. Where is the money draining to?

>> No.59848337

>>59847214
Even the lowest view member has displayed that he now has financial security. His "Fluffy" member posts get like, 800 likes... At the end of the day, dont underestimate all money from Members and Merch.

>> No.59848409

>>59844227
Magni was funny. Regardless of how you feel about his bullshit with non-Holos, he was still a good streamer and knew how to perform well.
Vesper was a piece of shit. Even if you remove the rrats, he would intentionally goad shitters by saying he'll collab with their oshi. He was basically Mori-lite but without the talent.

>> No.59849176

>>59848409
Vesper was a funny and wholesome old man

>> No.59849545
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>>59844462
Imagine being Mori, Ame and Kronii, tanking their numbers and losing revenue to fight for them. Then they just fucking leave after all that.

Imagine Mori when they told her they got anti’d too much and that was the reason

>> No.59849855

>>59844227
>drama whores go away
>dramafags go too
I don't like the homos but at least they're cleaner now

>> No.59849932

The other boys have been doing better in every way since they left. I'm convinced they were a problem internally

>> No.59850272

>>59844227
Before graduations:
>Suspension
>Anxiety hurts break
>Trabel break
>Back hurts
>Suspension two
Yeah they definitely carried tempus

>> No.59850336

>>59844227
It just faded away for Holobronies because they were the ones who collabed the most.
>>59844462
Because they were death 5 weeks before the graduations.

>> No.59850395

>>59848135
>They haven't even had a second outfit
That was Magni and Vesper's fault.

>> No.59850439

>>59849545
Good, those whores deserve it.

>> No.59850453

>>59846431
Why act like him stealing viewers is a nice thing? Hakka isnt like Magni or Vesper in the slightest. They graduate Hakka gets more viewers and money.
>hes so niceee giving them a home!!!
Retard

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59850503

>>59844227
Homofags have recently been trying to make the red guy relevant but it's not working too well

>> No.59850722

>>59850503
Wait until he gets a triumphant collab with Shiori and makes this board seethe

>> No.59851089

>>59844227
/vt/ stopped collabing with tempus because the shitposters lost interest. Otherwise, not much changed.

>> No.59851227

>>59850336
>Because they were death 5 weeks before the graduations.
So was Aloe. But people kept talking about triangle for a whole 6 months. And that bitch was brand new

>> No.59852889

>>59847214
Pretty much. They're here, not important, but here. They're more of a wagie branch than a money drain.

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>>59844227
I have to respect the hustle. They 100% joined to try to get some extra fans, try hit on girls and fail then leave well making sure to fuck over their genmates in the process on the way out. I respect the very obvious grifting

>> No.59853583

>>59850722
He’ll just get anti’d into graduating just like vesper and magni lmao

>> No.59853626

>>59844728
>the blue
Altare avoids all girls like plague, except those who literally threw themselves into a group collab including him. I don't think he ever had a one on one collab with a girl except Kobo and she's imouto zone.

>> No.59854294

>>59847214
They're making enough to make money now. Members, lives, and merch sellout is pretty strong. Last YEar at AGF trying to fet roberus merch as difficult because it sold out like instantly. ts just not a lot of money compared to hololive.

>> No.59854585

>>59844227
Magni is better off with his larger youtube channel and vesper is better off playing actual fucking video games.
Unlike other holo's who basically play FOTM slop and no japanese games.

>> No.59854596

>>59844462
It's because Mori's numbers were ABYSMAL for a while. She now acts like homos don't exist and coomer panders hard with thumbnails and asmr.

>> No.59854766

>>59854585
No need to post here Vesper

>> No.59854965

>>59849176
>a funny and wholesome old man
He was funny at times but he definitely wasn't "wholesome". Ironically, the way he acted is similar to how Shinri acts now. That is to say they both put on the fakest "nice guy" act only to be unable to deal with even the slightest of annoyances in their chat appropriately, with Vesper going off and threatening to collab with Hololive girls just because one person implied he shouldn't or Shinri telling imaginary backseaters in his chat they're pathetic for watching anime boys on the internet for over forty minutes.
It's genuinely a good thing for both the Stars and for Vesper that they parted ways, because even though he had that freak-out during his debut, he wasn't a good fit at all.

>> No.59854974

>>59850439
They aren't whores under any sane definition

>> No.59855109

>>59854965
I'll never forget that hilarious episode where Shinri had a breakdown over "spoilers" and Flayon went full on Rin by screaming BE NORMAL BE NORMAL BE NORMAL while he proceeds to be the least normal one in the fucking chat.

>> No.59855549

>>59854965
>Ironically, the way he acted is similar to how Shinri acts now
Really? i thought he was the only good homo left.
Well, I guess as long as he doesnt collab with the girls people wont mind him.

>> No.59855618

>>59855549
They basically took the Altare approach in that they dont really engage with the shit that gets twitter trannies, anime trannies, the alphabet terrorists, and incel unicorns uppity.

>> No.59855748

>>59850453
>>59854596
retard

>> No.59856264

>>59849932
They still seem cool with Magni, but you can absolutely tell that by the end no one BUT Magni liked Vesper. It’s actually kind of funny how little anyone seems to miss Vesper, he’s barely even mentioned.

>> No.59856421

>>59853626
Exactly. Altare goes out of his way to avoid being in one-on-one collabs with anyone from Hololive who isn't Kobo. He didn't even have one with Mori, despite her being a "safe" option.

>> No.59856872

>>59856421
I think that's more on Mori than him. Mori almost never interacted with him or Axel and even collab wise she hasn't collabed with either since Halloween last year. She's also never interacted with the second gen much if at all.

>> No.59857041

>>59855109
a breakdown or a """breakdown"""
I'm betting it was a """breakdown"""

>> No.59857331

>>59854585
Magni is heavily in debt and he and his streamer “group” are literally trying to find wagie jobs now. Vesper will be fine but Magni clearly regrets leaving his comfy job at this point. His numbers are shit too, he didn’t have as much luck as he wanted with shifting his Holo fanbase over.

>> No.59857343

>>59844227
The rest of Tempus legit is doing as well as they did before, nothing changed. The only guy the makes numbers is Bettel, who is good friends with Mag and Vesp IRL so who know if he will leave.

>> No.59857470

>>59857041
NTA but Shinri has both a weird obsession and a weird definition of backseating. Saying anything related to the game appears to be "backseating" to him, even if he asks a question relating to a mechanic he already got.
Depending on your definition of the magnitude between breakdown and 'breakdown', it could easily be either, as he tends to wind himself up very easily.
What he's talking about ended up having him do a community post about how he feels about backseating though, so while it was genuinely a breakdown it also wasn't that big of a deal.

>> No.59857533

>>59857470
>expressing how you feel about something in a community post is a breakdown
ah yes, so it was a """breakdown"""

>> No.59857567

>>59857533
>Completely disregarding all context from both the original post and mine
ogey

>> No.59857676

>>59857533
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU3vgXUKeFM

>> No.59857785
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>>59857567
Nta but if this is the community post you mean, I wouldn't exactly call it a breakdown at all.

>> No.59857828

>>59857785
>this is what /vt/ considers a """breakdown"""
kek I was right

>> No.59857918

>>59844758
>no one specified you
>you went with insult
Triggered. Literally mindbroken. These two accomplish what multiple female betrayals cannot.

>> No.59857925

>>59857785
>>59857828
>missing the point
Sasuga threadreaders

>> No.59858018

>>59853583
Unless he gets irl harassment over it, he wouldn't give a shit. And irl harrassment would bring a whole host of other problems for Cover.

>> No.59858055

>>59857925
>butthurt that he got exposed for making a mountain out of a fucking anthill
>"th-threadreaders missing the point"

>> No.59858147

>>59858055
>making a mountain out of a fucking anthill
>Literally said it wasn't a big deal
ogey retard

>> No.59858181

>>59857785
Honestly that's a pretty mature and reasonable post. I don't watch the guys, but Shinri seems like a good one.
He's going to filter a lot of people by doing this, but I can respect it.

>> No.59858183

>>59858147
then why call it a "breakdown"

>> No.59858277

>>59858055
I think you somehow misunderstood, they were saying "I doubt it was a big deal or a break down." and you appear to agree.

>> No.59858370

>>59858277
nah, the words used were
>so while it was genuinely a breakdown it also wasn't that big of a deal
which is oxymoronic in the first place, a breakdown implies it's a big deal, at least to the person having the breakdown

>> No.59858454

>>59844227
Because they were the only ones catalogtrannies cared about because they made you guys poop your diapers.

>> No.59858465

>>59858370
ah sorry meant to reply to the post you were replying too. Just pointing out that he agrees with you but seemed to be struggling to see it that way.

>> No.59858532

>>59844227
>still living rent free on veetee's mind
kek imagine being mindbroken by homos

>> No.59858596

>>59848409
>Mori-lite
Are you still in 2020 or something

>> No.59858637

>>59858370
>oxymoronic
Not really. He literally stopped what he was doing to talk about the problems causing flayon to step in and try to calm him down, and made the community post as a result. I think you're just, like I said, missing the point.

>> No.59858771

>>59858181
Yeah he's pretty level-headed. I've got no clue what the "he acts like Vesper" and the "breakdown" anons are talking about provided they aren't just shitposters. The closest to a "breakdown" he's ever really had was when people were taking his comments on lewd jokes out of context to attack other streamers.

>> No.59858805

>>59858181
>He's going to filter a lot of people by doing this
That was months ago dude, it's been completely fine.

>> No.59858940

>>59858181
>He's going to filter a lot of people by doing this
He did filter out tons of people.

>> No.59858993

>>59858637
You’re gonna have to provide video context my dude, “HE WAS TOTALLY HAVING A BREAKDOWN JUST LOOK AT THIS POST WHERE HE WAS BREAKING DOWN (shows calm and normal post)” is clearly not doing it.

>> No.59859385

>>59849545
>they told her they got anti’d too much and that was the reason
is that real or a rrat?

>> No.59859977

>>59855748
—he’s right

>> No.59860391

>>59857331
Why did he leave in the first place?

>> No.59860621

>>59844227
good riddance

>> No.59860900

>>59844462
Im pretty sure they're unironically banned from mentioning them.

>> No.59860915

>doesn't have a "no backseat rule"
>people backseat
>puts in a backseat rule
>follows up with well written explanation
>OMG HE'S HAVING A BREAKDOWN LOOK AT HOW MENHERA HE IS
??

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>>59850453
Is it stealing viewers when he started it after they left? These were abandoned fans. Although, yes, he does profit from increased viewers; Hakka never advertised it as such. He just put the fan representations on the screen along with his own. So only people already watching Hakka would even know. Or word of mouth I suppose.

>> No.59861272

>>59859385
>>59860391
He implied it was a perms issue, which lines up with a lot of the things he's said on stream. He made a thinly veiled graduation tweet saying the past year was very chaotic for him probably because of the double life he was trying to live, which also lines up with things he would often complain about. Seems like a bunch of things piled up and he decided he had more fun doing his own thing.
>>59860900
They aren't. They've been mentioned numerous times.

>> No.59861648

>>59861272
>works full time job
>decides to work his previous job too at the same time
>btw let me get two kittens because i’m fucking retarded. i’ll just get rid of my old cat!
>WAHHH I’M TIRED ALL THE TIME :(

>> No.59863153

>>59857470
Shinri's definition is basically on the level of a 1-2 view twitch streamer.
They think that any comment or speculation is backseating and they proceed to overreact. When in reality, it's just people in chat reacting to what's going on.
On that note, i've also realized that there are a ton of hololive streamers who also have breakdowns and start screaming about them being an adult.

>> No.59863582

>>59858940
>All about lore
Just like-
>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT LORE!
>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!
Hard pass

>> No.59866316

>>59863582
>>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!
>something that happens in a separate game
Seems reasonable to me idk

>> No.59868050

>>59844758
kek, there's a lot of irony in this post

>> No.59869545

>>59863153
Backseaters CAN be cultivated out of one's chat, but you have to be harsh and diligent about it.

>> No.59869910

>>59869545
in flares chat backseaters get the fucking rope

>> No.59870078

>>59869910
Good. No one infuriates me more

>> No.59870198

>>59857533
Depending how you do it, yes

>> No.59870308

>>59869545
I think you missed what anon is saying. He said that they're melting down over every little thing and saying its backseating. That's no different than getting one guy'd.

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>>59869910
In IRyS's chat backseaters get thanks because she knows she needs all the help she can get

>> No.59872979

>>59872573
IRyS got lost for an hour in RE2 using a guide, she needs the help

>> No.59873135

>>59872979
Her fault for playing a shit game.
Should have just done RE4.

>> No.59873180

>>59870308
No, I didnt. Backseaters are just negative IQ individuals who cant get the fucking hint

>> No.59873275

>>59873180
I think you did because it was obvious he's saying the problem is streamers interpreting things that are clearly not backseating as backseating.

>> No.59873522

>Tempus is now so yab-free this thread is a weird Shinri schizo and Irys

>> No.59874366

>>59873522
It just goes to show that Tempus would never have become as vehemently hated as they are if they had just stayed in their own lane
Magni and Vesper turned everyone against them and then fucked off, leaving their colleagues to deal with the consequences

>> No.59874606

>>59853583
anti'd by who?
it'll be just another ame x altroon duet

>> No.59874624

>>59873522
Holostars JP exists since gen 3 and nobody gives a shit, the shit storm happens when they try to cross the road, besides some ultra schizo most unicorns won't go out of their way to shit on them

>> No.59874790

>>59844227
Why do you think homobeggars want Flayon X Shiori to be a thing so bad? Tempus needs to be put back on the map somehow

>> No.59874912

>>59874366
More like if they never collabed with Mori specifically. Mori was already the face of "muh culture war" so in everyone's minds they became associated with "killing idol culture".

>> No.59875152

>>59873522
The shinri thing is the more shocking thing since it basically came out of nowhere
>>59874790
I dont think those "beggars" are the one who is forcing it. It's just normal collab beggars who want everyone to collab and not do solo content.

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>>59873180
Backseaters only happen when you suck tho. No one wants to watch some guy redoing the same level for hours, never learning anything, never changing their playstyle, not making any commentary aside from complaining about said backseaters.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mCwTodzuJig&pp=ygUQRW5uYSBwbGVhc2UgcmVhZA%3D%3D
Shit like this is why I watch Botan. Solely because she’s actually good at videogames, so she doesn’t complain about backseaters because she never needs them to beat the game.

>> No.59875379

>>59874366
>>59874912
Vespa and Magged really is a combination of multiple corn trigger
>Most Homostars would make polite impression first time collabing, basically trying to be non-threatening as possible
>Having the loudest fujo crowd in the entire HolostarEN
>Collabing with Mori who is controversial with the muh Idol crowd (both valid and retarded reason)
>Collabing with Kronii and made her more resolute about preaching to fans (this is also her RM behavior)
Basically, it was a cascade of hilarity which mind-broke /vt/ something fierce.

>> No.59875584

>>59874790
>Why do you think homobeggars want Flayon X Shiori to be a thing so bad?
Hell no. Who the fuck cares about Flayon? Even Homobeggars knew he's not fun. If you said Axel I would agree. But that flaming red hot faggot? No way.

>> No.59875595

>>59875379
Vesper had the loudest fujo crowd? I thought he was supposed to be a brotuber

>> No.59875631

>>59875584
The problem with flayon is he likes the absolute worst of type moon

>> No.59875683

>>59873275
Mhmm
I just think hes wrong.>>59875277
Disagree, it happened so fucking much through Ames Outer Wilds until she pulled the plug and they started to grt the message

>> No.59875787

>>59844227
>3 original songs since they left, 2 of them actually being good
>mascot merch
>upcoming merch collab with popular street ware brand
>CCV unchanged for all talents left
Tempus is doing fine without them, all that's changed is the catalog shitters left because theire isn't any drama.

>> No.59875931

>>59875787
as a sister i was worried that them leaving would be the end but it ended up being that all the worst of the tempura left so i am elated

>> No.59875932

>>59850503
>implying it's homofans
Homofans ship him with the buff dude, the old man, or the clown.
They are, after all, fans of homosexual intercourse.

>> No.59876058

>>59849545
What's more funny is kronii gave up halfway and Mori had to force her to keep collabing with homos so she could save face, then the homos still stabbed her in the back.

>> No.59876391

>>59874912
I don't think it was the Mori collab, I think it was Kronii more than all(maybe a little bit of Ame too)
That and Vanguard debuting shortly after HQ, which people randomly associated with the lack of a third EN generation
Which, ironically, makes most of the hate for them centered around things that have very little to do with the members themselves

>> No.59876619

>>59844227
Still rent free inside the unicuck mind though ;)

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59877080

>>59844227
*Tempiss
>grammer reps op nigger

>> No.59878018

>>59876619
You tend to remember your massive victories, yes

>> No.59878170

>>59844728

they graduated and moved on and you're still on 4chan whining about them lmao.

how much space do they take up in your head every month? when are you going to move on?

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>>59844227
It's great, right? I got so fucking tired of pretending to like them and the rest of them.
I can finally rest...

>> No.59878394

>>59876058
>Kroniicels STILL playing defense for her actions by shifting the blame
Rumao. Kronii loved those homos and she hates gachis/unicorns/goslings/idolfans.

>> No.59878418

>>59878018
>Victories
Holy cringe

>> No.59878435

>>59874790
My rrat is that Shiori despises Unicorns and knew Flayon in her pl so she set all of this up herself to fuck with them. But what I don’t know is if she actually will collab with him or if she just likes making Unicorns squirm and infight.

>> No.59878917

>>59878018
Massive victories like getting the EN girls to sing love song duets with you or comment on your underwear?

>> No.59879370

>>59850503
i tried to give the red one a shot but i cant... he's just too faggy and im not just talking about his looks, he's gay as shit. and his game taste, while based, puts me to sleep when its not something i played before or a JRPG

>> No.59879634

>>59875277
a lot of you don't seem to realize that some streamers act dumb like this on purpose so they can farm clips out of gullible morons like these. enna especially is probably the type to do this

>> No.59880464

>>59879634
No one likes watching competent streamers/

>> No.59880802

>>59875595
Yep. Very loud. They're also the only one seething when he left while everyone else (gay men included) watched orb

>> No.59881010

>>59880802
>everyone else watched orb
Yeah, for like a week lol

>> No.59881052

>>59880464
Botan and Korone are extremely popular

>> No.59881568

>>59844227
It's a shame, because I like flayon and bettel, but they are cursed to basically be irrelevant forever.

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>>59844227

>> No.59881788

>>59881010
I never said Fujos aren't the majority of the audience.
(His CCV didn't even drop that much, 1000ish on return peak and 500-800 average. People really only cares about his model)

>> No.59882018

>>59844227
why were their models so fucking bad
isnt hololive rich

>> No.59882136

>>59882018
>Why were their models so bad
FGO artists who design males really suck at drawing appealing men.
If you're going to get a FGO artist to do a male then it better be Takeuchi or abec.

>> No.59884194

>>59881568
Every month Flayon gets the attention of a new Otome/VN whatever company/developer/creator so...hes growing in a weird way to some degree

>> No.59884320

>>59844227
>>59844462
One may even go as far as to say that the reason they were so desperate to collab with the girls was so that they could gain more popularity.

>> No.59885615

>>59844227
Despite it being these two leaving, I think Altare was the one behind most of the animosity. Specifically, If Ame and not sang a "duet" with him and had he not made Kronii laugh to hard, most people wouldn't have been upset with the Holostars. That's when it all started.

>> No.59885695

>>59885615
>Altare was the one behind most of the animosity
And yet all of your examples aren't his fault

>> No.59886114

>>59882018
The biggest problem Hololive has is hiring artists who know the process of rigging. Basically, the way the process works is
>A talent gets to request a specific artist for their model
>If they have no preference, Cover drags one out of their pool of artists and asks if they can do it
>If they can do it, they draw up a character sheet and hand it to the rigger
This is the part that FUCKS everything up 90% of the time
>The rigger sees the sheet and loses their mind
>They have to redraw segments to make the parts work for Live2D
>They have to make sure every frill, strand, and lace are properly rigged and aren't tied to each other (i.e. how Gura's rigger had it, where turning her body left always caused her to "lean forward" too)
>This process of redrawing sometimes fucks up the original character sheet
>When fully modeled it'll usually resemble the original art, but movement will be FUCKED
It's why artists like for Magni's or Vesper's (both the old one and Pako) ALWAYS have way more amazing pieces of art than what they end up with. And if the rigger is BAD at this (i.e. Gura's) they'll absolutely FUCK the proportions too while redrawing, which is why some models have absurd heads (IRyS' new model, Shion's megamind head, etc.).
>tl;dr
Most of the time, models are bad because the artist overdesigned things or the rigger fucked up when cutting / redrawing segments. Or both (like with Gura's overalls)

>> No.59886528

>>59886114
this sounds like a fucking nightmare but still they should be able to hire the best riggers anyway right? wtf is that shit is it like how only union people can get certain jobs

it does sound like a pain in the ass though so respect to the artists who do it at least

magni's tracking looked fucking awful and his eyes were too far apart when looking at the front like cmon bruh

>> No.59886675

>>59844227
>>59844462
Based

>> No.59886737

>>59885695
Yeah, that's the funniest thing about it whenever people try to blame him for anything that happened with HoloEN. He did literally nothing wrong.

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59887345

>>59882136
need Raita to make a holobro

>> No.59888045

>>59854596
>coomer panders hard with thumbnails and asmr.
She does these all the time, you just don't watch Mori.

>> No.59888183

>>59885615
Ame didn’t ask his permission for the “duet” (her singing over a clip of him singing) and Kronii laughing at whatever is on her if you’re not retarded. He did literally nothing wrong and got months of harassment for it. He barely even interacts with people outside of Tempus.

>> No.59888213

>>59878394
>kronii loves the homo
>ban any homo mention in her chat a couple of month before they graduated
She sure care about them kek.

>> No.59888216

>>59850503
god just from the crop this art looks like dogshit style

>> No.59888259

>>59886737
looking back with hindsight it is pretty amazing on how pretty much all of the holostars drama was because the En girls couldnt act like normal. People talk about how its normal for Id to stream with male but Kobo also never had a sudden personality change or make blatant actions against groups of people. kobo and altare just kind of played games together and acted like normal humans

>> No.59888669

>>59878917
Then why are you seething itt sister? It easy to shit on you, just say unicorn victory and get retarded like you going "nuh uh, it doesn't matter when 2 of homo graduated as long as they reply and collab".
Literally mindbroke.

>> No.59889305

>>59846431
>>59855748
>>59861256
>Leeching is good actually
Damn Homofans hitting a new low

>> No.59890201

>>59874366
>Magni and Vesper turned everyone against them and then fucked off, leaving their colleagues to deal with the consequences
Fucking this, despite i don't like male vtubers in general but this two are just scumbags prime, i'm not even surprised that their main audience are homobeggars

>> No.59890718

>>59844227
>Catalog is no longer flooded with homospam
>Wow, crazy how Tempus just stopped existing
I know catalog shitters aren't intellectual powerhouses but do you really lack basic object permanence?

>> No.59890951

>>59844716
>>59844820
>>59844894
>>59845196
>>59850722
>>59858532
>>59876619
>protecting homo
are you guys faggots or females?

>> No.59891137

>>59882018
Japanese masculine ideals conflict with Western ideals.

Also frankly, most designs are objectively terrible and get a pass because guys like tits and sexy voices.

>> No.59891240

Since the en homostars have mostly been kept away from en holos for awhile, you'd think they'd stay in there lane. But nope, they have just moved to chasing small corpo girls.

>> No.59891330

>>59891240
which small corpo did they cuck?

>> No.59891348

is this the magnoir general? damn it's popping off

>> No.59891444

>>59891330
Idol corp

>> No.59891522

>>59844227
No one is going to watch your dead streamer, even after leaving hololive they still can't stop leeching off them

>> No.59891562

>>59846431
Magni and Vesper never cared about Hakka that much in the first place…they were never that close, you don't need to act like they were

>> No.59891589

>>59844227
Cover should just disband the whole holostars branch honestly

>> No.59891788

>>59888259
>looking back with hindsight it is pretty amazing on how pretty much all of the holostars drama was because the En girls couldnt act like normal. People talk about how its normal for Id to stream with male but Kobo also never had a sudden personality change or make blatant actions against groups of people. kobo and altare just kind of played games together and acted like normal humans
Because every content creator collab in ID regardless of gender, so they got accustomed to it. In contrast, EN content creators seems to consider male/female collab a risky bet.
Never developing unicorn mentality (which exist before VTuber era) was quite an advantage to keep fans orderly in that manner. And when unicorn newfags came they get lynched.

>> No.59892012

>>59891788
Maybe because en primarily tempus are full of schizo that painted holofan as cuck whenever they collab. Remember, this cuck shit only exist after tempus, despite the connor drama that only exist after he shit talk about holo and nobody talk about cuck even after she and other member collab or interact with male.

>> No.59892785

>59890951
>I decide what being straight and what not
>If you don't love my oshi you're gay
I hereby sentence you for being an insecure cuck with a whore for an oshi, faggot.

>> No.59894085

>>59844462
lol

>> No.59894109

>>59844227
kek

>> No.59894373

>>59887345
Yeah, me.

>> No.59894982

>>59888669
But all I did was point out unitroons being hand delivered the NijiEN Cuckold Special. Talents come and go, love song duets or commenting on underwear are once in a lifetime opportunities. Why did that get so far under your skin, anon?

>> No.59895011

>>59891788
And Kaela is by far the most successful ID and look, she's the one who almost never made a male collab
Indogs saying they're normal means nothing when their chuubas are a bunch of 3view

>> No.59896603

>>59844227
peace has returned.

>> No.59900106

>>59844555
>visit online forum for vtuber fans
>doesn't even know vtubers
retards being retarded, a timeless classic

>> No.59902286

>>59844227
tempus who?

>> No.59903853

>>59850395
>>They haven't even had a second outfit
>That was Magni and Vesper's fault.
Anon the deal making with Tempus is Cover's fault since new 2D outfits and redesigns are relatively low cost. Management uses them like rewards for good behavior but easily release five 3D outfits for holoX in a single year. 3D outfits require more development time so Cover is entirely to blame for the corporate games they play with their vtubers.

>> No.59903940

>>59844227
Almost as if the dramawhoring was all they had going for them? Nobody is going to watch the rest for their """idol""" work

>> No.59906131

>>59876058
lol no.
evidence?

>> No.59906166

>>59885615
The Kronii laughing incident proved how utterly pathetic unicorns are

>> No.59906456

>>59906166
They're gone already sister

>> No.59906834

>>59844462
Silence really can be deafening

>> No.59906862

>>59844227
They were the only unique ones in the branch. They're better off without Cover.

>> No.59907358

>>59906862
>They're better off without Cover.
I mean, objectively speaking, we've been seeing that they're not.

>> No.59907485

>>59906862
Vesper only had good will towards him in the debut because he faked being a wholesome innocent old guy, after that even the sisters started to dislike him since he always made trouble to the others

>> No.59907685

>>59906862
How much is vesper averaging on the platform where you can viewbot?

>> No.59908203

Was /orc/ not moving fast enough so you had to make another astroturf thread?

>> No.59911672

hehehe

>> No.59912211

>>59849545
>Imagine being Mori, Ame and Kronii, tanking their numbers and losing revenue to fight for them.
>Oh no, I made 190k this month instead of 200k

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>>59890951
>>protecting homo
>are you guys faggots or females?

>> No.59914308

>>59912211
>loses half of the viewers
>only 5% of the revenue drops
True, trust me

>> No.59914486

>>59844227
*Tempest dies*
All of a sudden much less dramas and problems.
It was that easy sisters.

>> No.59914671

>>59914308
Surely every single viewer donates equally and every single one of them is in the same economic class while having the same level of commitment and investment.

>> No.59915287

>>59914671
You're probably right, the ones that get super invested in see vtubers are needing to not associate with boys don't seem like the type to be obsessive whales. It's why Rushia never made much money.

>> No.59915849

>>59912480
/qa/ lost sis

>> No.59915925

>>59915287
Meanwhile Mori and Kiara are swimming in money. It's all thanks to them being ccv juggernauts of course.

>> No.59921489

>>59844227
who?

>> No.59922567

>>59915287
Rushia is still making money after a boyfriend yab and a male collab tab and a telling fans to fuck off yab. Paypigs don’t know how to jump ship

>> No.59923060

>>59849545
kronii really died on that hill... i dont even feel sorry for her after they just fucked off

>> No.59924304

>>59914308
>Loses half of viewership
It's been over a year and there's still been no proof for this claim

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59927633

>still watch the Holo girls
>still watch Magni, Vesper, and Bettel
>still watch /vt/ seethe
And life goes on

>> No.59928004

>>59927633
Fuck off from this hobby troon

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>>59928004
No, I don't think I will.
I'm having fun while you're having males AND trannies live in your head rent free.

>> No.59928900

>>59923060
take your meds

>> No.59929170

>>59903853
Why didn't you mention uproar who also got 2 variants of 3D outfits and also got 2 new L2D outfits other than default while holoX were stuck with default and kimonos only for more than a year

>> No.59929359

>>59928262
Okay tranny, go watch the blue fag that supports the cause

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>>59929359
I already told you who I watch retard, and blue boy isn't one of them.

>> No.59930518

>>59928004
>>59929359
The goth whore would want you to use more inclusive language, sis.

>> No.59933471

>>59848135
>They pay for their own songs like everyone else
Is this about their own orisong or the 3 group orisongs they got for their anniv because I'm pretty sure they spent nothing on the group orisongs

>> No.59935801

>>59933471
They pay for their own individual original songs and covers, not the group ones
Do you think the women are all paying for their various group company original songs and only the men are getting company subsidized ones?

>> No.59936074

>>59929170
>Why didn't you mention uproar who also got 2 variants of 3D outfits and also got 2 new L2D outfits
Uproar got a lot during their first year but the point was that Cover treats redesigns and new outfits like prizes for good behavior. The perpetual war zone that is the EN branch get less prizes since the EN talents and JP managers are constantly fighting. Tempus not getting second outfits was solely because Cover was angry with them and in terms of technical ability the company has over 400 employees.

>> No.59936447

>>59933471
>>59935801
Cover provides a budget for original songs. Talents pay the difference if they exceed that budget. For covers, talents pay for everything out of pocket. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDzlayOiVro

>> No.59936673

>>59895011
She isn't, It's Kobo. Well, Kobo and Moona, those two are the faces of ID. When people think of Hololive ID, they think of those two first.

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>Another thread of anons who claim they don't watch males but somehow have infinite streamwatcher-only knowledge of said males

Literally every single time. It's funny honestly

>> No.59936883

>>59936830
Anons are very tsundere please understand

>> No.59936985

>>59936673
When people think of holojp they think about Korone, there's a difference between being an icon and being the most successful, and Korone is one of my oshis, but it's just ludicrous to think she's the most successful holoJP
Moona is far from Kaela and Kobo fell of greatly some weeks after the debut, and that doesn't matter anyways since even the most watched among them is a low to average JP, so my point doesn't change

>> No.59937152

>>59936830
I never heard their voice besides Roberu and Oga yet I know a lot about those fags(even if most of it is exaggerated or made up)

>> No.59937243

>>59937152
>(even if most of it is exaggerated or made up)
Then you don't know anything

>> No.59937272

>>59937152
>I know a lot about them, even if most of what I know isn't true
Anon?

>> No.59937561

>>59937152
>Calling Roberu a fag
If I could slap you across the screen, I would

>> No.59937902

>Tempus faded away for me when anons aren't constantly spamming the catalog and generals about dramashit
What's the point of this thread other than proving no one here has object permanence (for the millionth time)

>> No.59940644

>>59937272
>>59937243
Lmfao

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