/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>59653682
Damn she looks so florking cute here I can't

yeah but why him... was he popular?

>>59653949
Vshojo needed a gay friend for the girls

>>59653682
Ironlung really have a tight grip on how to run the company while Gunman is selling his backpack oil, hopefully she manages to sink the ship and let someone better take control.

>>59653682
Thanks for helping him with his tax, Mouse
>>59653983
>gay
He's a raging bisexual

>>59653682
Thanks Mouse. He seems very happy.

>>59653682
I dare you to poach all the HomoStars

If they don't want poachings to happen they should give their talents both better treatment and a better contract. It's unreal that Anycolor sucks so fucking much they lost their top male talent to a small American company.

>>59653999
I mean according to what he said, Ironmouse made the contact but Gunrun like the fucking loyal boss he is, impressed him better than whatever the fuck they were doing on Nijisanji. I heard stories of Gunrun, mainly that the dude likes to help around, if that also gains him trust of other creators, then fucking ruthless businessman, collecting ex-corpos like candy
https://youtu.be/38msQLlN6-c

>>59654096
WIP, please be patient. The clown will be next

>>59654096
Only the clown is worth it. And it was their's

>>59654284

Froot will get her pet back to groom him to a beautiful woman

>>59654284
Axel would be more successful in an environment that's less built on seiso idol culture. Even Flayon and Shinri would probably do better elsewhere. Hakka and Altare are the only ones that really benefit from Cover's corpo environment.

>>59654497
>Altare
Nigga cornered himself into a big brother niche, a role universally fucking condemned by unicorns based on their own crazy suspicion.
None of the holostar EN are happy under Cover considering the situation. Especially being treated like second class citizen.

>>59653682
I will thank you and wish you luck in dealing with him

>>59653682
Please Mouse take all the Holostars from cover

bau bau

>>59653853
Ironlung's recent model is probably my favorite so far, too bad it won't last a couple months

>>59654038
>Fucks men
So gay then.

>>59654169
It's a similar story to how VShojo started. He's a guy interested in tech and innovations in streaming first and foremost. So vtubing attracted him because it was something different from traditional streaming, but it was Melody on CB that really got him interested in on the tech side. He contacts her offering help if she'd ever need it. She had no idea who he was, gets told by other people, accepts his help, and within a couple of weeks she's started doing SFW streams on Twitch, then within a couple of months VShojo starts forming around the core of her, Mouse, and Silver.

>>59654609
If they dont want to be treated like second class citizen they should bring in the same amount of income. It's like women's FIFA asking for equal pay despite bringing way less profit. If the unicorns wasn't loud enough HoloEN could had became NijiEN, where both the girls' and the boys' popularity died mainly because of mixing them too much.

>>59655321
Sometimes I wonder, do modelers get offended at chuubas that constantly switch models so often? Like you worked hard on a nice model for someone and she just switches to a new one after 6 months.

>>59655943
I mean if you give them a name like "Holostars" they're bound to fail, and you create a red team vs. blue team situation that spawns those sort of unicorns to start with.

>>59656347
iI you are a woke loser, yes, you would get offended. Otherwise it was just a job and you got paid thousands of dollars.

>>59653682
Niji drones tremble at the sight of Ironmouse and Kson

>>59653949
He was the most popular guy in NijiEN in terms of views.

>>59656347
I know at least some of mouse's models are designed by the same person so I guess for them it's just good repeat business

>>59656457
They need to change their name, and axe "Holopro" completely. If they're going to be separate groups they should be treated and named like it, this just makes a shitty will-they-won't-they situation that benefits no one.

>>59653682
You got a faggy flippino menhera from the wave that ruined western Vtubing and you absolutely know he's in only for the money with no intention to put out decent content.
Good for you I guess. At best he'll be irrelevant at worst he'll bring the mentally ill fujo sisters into Vshojo.

Now he must die

Vshojobeggars

>>59655395
its worse than gay. they're the reason std's cross over into straight population

>>59656347
One of the moddlers I know vague posted about how she was kind of upset that a project she put a lot of passion into was used so little but outright bitching that a vtuber isn't using your model on the regular can be bad for Business.
She also does contract a lot of the same people

>I have tax issues
>niji: fuck off
>gunrun: sure I'll help if you listen to me rant about backpacks
God how could poachshojo do this?

>>59656347
>>59656485
>>59657399
I think the only possible bad feelings can crop up in a situation too specific but also realistic like
>customer pesters you to speed up
>You prioritized their order
>They end up not using it much
Otherwise, money is money.

>>59656347
For people who don't have a lot of clients yet it can be annoying and probably discouraging to see models changed quickly.

>>59657283
>Unironically believes STDs between straight partners never happens

>>59657064
Kuro left because of Luxiem's reputation as a glorified host club, and I think if he keeps up and stays healthy, he could make male vtubing great again.

>Please save me too...

>>59657424
Kuro shilled the backpacks in the debut stream, of course he got /in/

>>59657523
Anon is clearly a virgin, he has a lot to learn

>>59657586
pomu 2024

>>59657424
I've seen this before but if you joined a Japanese company expecting them to do your taxes for you, I'm not really sure how many braincells you've got floating around in there but I'm guessing it's in the single digits.
Not even hololive pays for their talents accountants and it's understandable. In the English branch alone you have talents in Europe, US, Australia, Canada and Japan. If you wanted to provide an accountant for each of your talents you'd literally have to hire people from around the world or have one extremely knowledgeable person

>>59657589
>backpacks
do fags really?

>>59657589
This is the funniest fucking thing to me. People have memed that Gunrun has an obsession with backpacks for a couple of years now, and literally during his debut he brings up the possibility of IRL streaming which would likely be brought about by one of Gun's backpacks

>>59657526
>he could make male vtubing great again
Male Vtubing was never great. And I don't see him of all people having the power to make it good. He's too much of a fragile bitch.

>>59657670
And Gunrun's an American helping a Filipino deal with British taxes and how they might relate to his Japanese employer.
He managed to pull his ass out of the fire, why couldn't Niji be bothered to put the effort in for one of their most popular talents? Now he's working for another company.

>>59657105
Why are nijisisters mad about this?

>>59657769
It's streaming backpacks anon. It was unironically Gunrun's business before VShojo. https://www.gunrun.tv/backpack

>>59657523
>Doesn't know what they used to call AIDS

>>59656347
They get paid. I think that's by far the most important part of the transaction. The only reason I feel like offense would be taken is if there was some stupid agreement where they get paid based on how often the model is used, as opposed to a one-and-done deal.

>>59657526
I mean, dude is like right beside vox in being responsible for that reputation

>>59657848
Gunrun is not like most employers. I can give vshojo a lot of credit in just how lucrative their offers are.
Gunrun puts next to no actual restrictions on streaming to the point where nyanners was facecamming on twitch and kson on YouTube and literally only takes percentages off of merch. Talents are given 100% of earnings through everything else.

I honestly wish there were more people out there like him because he seems like a genuinely good dude, but the world unfortunately doesn't work like that. You should see gunrun as an exception and not the rule. I'm pretty sure even the girls in prism and PC don't get their taxes done by the company

>>59657769
As said by this guy >>59657873
Gunrun is basically the one that brought a lot of the IRL community on his back.
https://medium.com/@claudiabarbiero/when-people-start-getting-real-irl-live-streaming-f19ea81cba52
And the good thing is that he embraces the meme, he literally still had on contact people like Nyanners when they had issues with their backpack despite not being a worker for him anymore

There are unironic Gunrun dick suckers on this board? What the fuck happened? Kill yourself, kids.

>>59658327
>Kill yourself, kids.
You first

>>59658327
Oh sorry bro, let me drain Yagoo's balls
It's my turn now

>>59657586
Pomu chan!

>>59656347
Do fashion designers get offended when their models wear different dresses?

>>59658327
If you're so deep into tribalism that you can't recognise an objectively good deed then you need to take a break.

>>59656347
I think if you make a model for Mouse, you would expect her to change it in a couple of months.

>>59656347
If you get paid, there's no reason to complain.
The main reason I can see people getting mad is;

1.) They won't get paid again unless its for a literal costume change,

2.) They believe they won't get as much clout when people ask who made the model.

If they get paid for the work they put in, and considering Mousey will still use all of her models at some stage, then I personally wouldn't give a shit.

>>59656347
Guaranteed. The payment is only a part of the concern for model makers, they want it to be used by popular chubbas if possible so they get more fame and exposure. I could easily imagine lower viewer chubbas having trouble getting popular model makers if they kept dumping models; but Iron Mouse is big enough that having her use your model for 4 months is probably still worth it

>>59658327
So true sister! Hold on I need to render Yagoo with a 24 inch cock again

>>59657586
Seriously why did she mention the possibility of quitting for a office job? There's no way she doesn't make bank.

>>59658598
>for exposure
That's a literal fucking meme for artists. They already got paid, they don't give a shit.

>>59658598
>4 months
2 if lucky. And considering her usual style, she might not even bother shilling the creator.
>>59658724
Money isn't always the problem. Ask this faggot.

>>59658769
>They already got paid, they don't give a shit
You constantly hear 2 views seethe about how their attempts to commission are ignored for bigger chubbas, and even when they do manage to commission, their project is delayed so the maker can work on bigger chubbas (even if they're all on the same pay scale). You can't be claiming its equally as valuable to have your work showcased by a chubba with 50CCV as opposed to one with 5000CCV

>>59658769
>>59658984
Only retards believe that Artists have no pride and won't choose prestige clients over peasants, even when both can pay.
Just ask those "Brand designers". You can grow so big money is less an issue than prestige.

>>59658327
Stay mad, doritofag

>>59658327
Vshojo cucks suck his dick harder than anyone. They accuse holo fans of doing the exact shit they do despite loads of people giving yagoo shit all the time.

>>59659239
...Why does he look like an asian Shrek?

>>59659325
He's a jolly looking man

>>59659291
>They accuse holo fans of doing the exact shit they do despite loads of people giving yagoo shit all the time.
????

>>59657858
Mysta has essentially done the things that make anons on this board hate kson, Kronii, and Sana, except combined together in one person and within a much more condensed time frame.
That said, I’ve never heard anyone /here/ actually advocate for someone to be killed. The worst I’ve heard is anons suggesting someone might get themselves killed because they pissed someone off and then being indifferent (or gleeful) at the idea. I haven’t seen anyone actually suggest they want to kill someone.

>>59659846

>>59660011
I hate numbers and I shit on them literally on every thread I visited, what the fuck are you talking about?
VShojo boasting numbers? Since when? They got bludgeoned by "8% market" meme all the time.
No matter who they sided with, #fags get the rope. They basically exist to stoke the fires of fandom war.

>>59659580
Why do Gunrun and Yagoo look so chill while Rika looks like some horrific fae creature?

>>59660265
>Gunrun: Backpack autist
>Yagoo: Saviorfag
>Riku: MONEY AND POWER
Call them retarded if you want, but the first two have honest passion in their job. Riku is a Seto Kaiba wannabe.

>>59654038
>He’s bisexual
Oh so he’s a faggot in denial then?

>>59660505
I mean, is he a faggot if his girlfriend also a bisexual? (not a tranny)

>>59659992

>>59653682
don't care. go bragging it somewhere else, whore

>>59653853
yeah, especially when she tells you a story about her sex life with connor

>poach Mysterio because he's too retarded to hire an accountant
Hilarious if true.

>>59659291
>They accuse holo fans of doing the exact shit they do despite loads of people giving yagoo shit all the time.
well, it usually bothers hypocrites when you show them that they are being hypocritical.

>>59661008
Based.

>>59661008
Bruh

>>59653682
Laugh. Enjoy your male.

>>59653682
>Yet another menhera numberfag is now her responsibility
Have fun with him I guess

>>59661184
I think it's more like
>hire an accountant
>accountant does their job and tells Mysta how much he owes in taxes
Mysta's a literal retard who bought two houses and didn't realize he had none left for taxes

>>59653949
Mysta was always big views, low donations
(low for Luxiem that is, way above everyone else)

>>59661008
first normal nijiviewer I've ever seen.

>>59661110
you must be from the future anon.

>>59658076
>I'm pretty sure even the girls in prism and PC don't get their taxes done by the company
IDK about prism, but I feel like if one of the girls in phase asked fishman about it, he'd at least point them towards some proper help before going back to scouting psych wards for new talent.

>>59665117
Donations don't mean much for prestige or overall income. If you track 3views a lot of them are absolutely raking in the donations, especially if they do a donathon. But that doesn't mean they make more, necessarily. Mysta was easily bigger than anyone else in NijiEN except for Vox.

>>59653682
Ironmouse tried to poach Gura. If you know you know
Going off the Kuro clip, who knows maybe Ironmouse is still in talks with Gura and has been trying all this time to poach her

>>59653682
does anyone actually care

Nijikeks.... it's over....

>>59670496
>If you know you know

>>59653682
I guarantee you within a few years, Vshojo will poach a bunch more and get significantly more popular and enticing for other corporate vtubers. I could see even Mori, Kronii, Bae, Ame, Selen, etc. jumping ship. (I kind of hope not for the HoloEN girls because I like the unity and chemistry but I could see it happening) Vesper, Nina, and Magni are all but confirmed. All this is obviously purely speculative but I think Ironmouse doing her talkshow and being so personable has planted some seeds. She is a genius businesswoman and doesn't get the credit for how shrewd she is. She's playing the vtuber game like it's Risk. If anyone could actually make a sizable dent in the EN side of Cover and Nijisanji it's her.

>>59670920
Ironmouse replied to HER

>>59654169
Gunrun is just genuinely a good guy who only wants to help
Nobody who's ever interacted with him as ever said anything less than the highest praise

>>59656347
They know her reputation and they can refuse her. But Ironmouse is huge so being her Mama even just for a short time is a lot of clout. I think a good chunk of artists would do it for free but they also get paid so it's just an overall win.

>>59657399
That was Rosu, who is/was (since she might be giving up model making) Mouse's main model artist (the one she's commissioned more than anyone else).

It's in a larger context where literally every vtuber she's made a model for either has graduated, almost never streams, or stopped using the model.
Mouse's habit in and of itself wasn't the issue, just part of a larger thing.

>>59657858
their oshi is the company, and he has betrayed it

>>59657523
>unironically ignores generalizations

>>59656347
Yes but it's something you have to accept if you make models for twitch vtubers

>>59660137
>"8% market" meme
kek you wish cuck, it's 3%. Know your place

>>59671386
two more weeks sister

>board laughs at mysta for being a lolcow and getting into lolcow situations on the monthly and being more problematic than Vesper and Magni combined
>now he's simply yet another poor victim of the Nijisisters gargling Tazumi's balls and was a good lil boy dindu nuffin wrong

Make up your minds, retards

>>59659992
fun fact: there are 4chan mods, they will delete these kind of posts.
they frequently happen.
they learned that xwitter is very unmoderated and has more eyeballs.
the same trannies who do that here do it way worse on xwitter

>>59653682
>Ha! i poached mysta. what you gonna do about it?

uuuhm. weird flex, but ok, go off i guess. you can keep him

>>59653682
I will fuck those large Latina titties.

>>59660265
Yagoo and gunrun had to work hard for their shit, if i'm not mistaken Riku was already a spoiled rich ass kid

>>59671386
Kronii would just rejoin her Twitch indie friendgroup.

>>59670496
>>59670920
>>59671513
Iirc she not only responded to HER but also told sykunno she could 100% make him meet his oshi, but I don't believe it that much, if she were friends with mouse she would've interacted more with her or at least appeared on speak of the devil, they are on speaking terms but are not even colleagues.
Also Gura already confirmed on booking the studio for mid/late 2024 so... yeah

>>59671386
This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard and I don't know if I should laught or feel pity for you anon. The one doing most of the talking would be Kson, you know? the one with the actual university degree on bussiness?
You're giving the cripple girl way too much credit and even IF she's the one behind all the poaching then it wouldn't be a hard job
>Hey do you want to join our nepo company and own everything you get?
Whichever Vtuber who gets told that who also had been mistreate by kurosanji would 100% accept and tell the others to fuck off.

>>59671924
Oh that's fair I never knew the full context I just remembered that I had heard snippets about one of the artists being a bit sad about it.

I do wish mouse would stop changing outfits so rapidly she has a whole closet of them that she never used and it takes away some of the fun of outfit reveals when you know it won't be 2 months before shes started to move onto a new one

>>59671386
Mori has a lucrative contract with a real-deal music label.
Kronii would go back to her friend group, not a bunch of strangers.
Bae is extremely happy where she is.
Ame's problem is her self-isolation habit. If she were to quit she would just slum it alone again.
Selen is possible but I think she'd more likely go back to her old identity.
Vesper is plenty happy having gone back to his old home.
Nina plain quit the business.
Magni is not even trying to vtube again, he's clearly comfortable with his original gig.

>>59682088
She had a channel redeem during subathon that let people change what model she was using.
It was a little busted so last I heard she's reworking it and changing it to once per stream with a cooldown on each model so people don't spam the same one

She tends to take forever to put new stream features into place but once it's there, should be great

>>59682088
Rosu did this as the last one and probably her last vtuber model. She's also an illustrator working for a company, in fact one that worked with Cover and even games, so vtubers and her own twitch career ARE her side gig, reason why she left it. This was the last contract she had, and it's the promotional art work, and her new main model, as in, she will probably use it for events and sponsors. Rosu also gave her a nude model, which isn't nude in the sense of nipples and vagoo, just a barbie model for artists to make outfits on it. Safe to say, Rosuuri will prevail as her main mama, since also fuck Nia, bitch ass chinese

>>59681839
>own everything you get
I like how you treat this as if it's nothing, when it's not a significant, major advantage that VShojo has over both Holo and Niji. Like that part can't even be argued no matter how much you may hate them or like the others. Keeping your IP is fucking huge.

>>59654038
what were his tax problems anyway?

>>59683399
retard

>>59683527
He owed British treasury 350K dollar
His previous accountant was a JOP retard

>>59657848
>one of their most popular talents?
he was a 3-4k streamer before he announced his graduation
that's probably not even top30 in nijisanji

>>59653682
who? and still mouse still alive?

>>59657873
>contentiously stream for 6-12 hours

>>59684024
Holy fuck, how even?

>>59684676
Unending amount of accounting fuckups basically. It has been 9 months and it's only half solved after Gunrun beelined for him.

>>59653853
she looks ugly as shit
watch some good vtubers

>>59661110
I wish

>>59656879
>>59656457
>my homos can't attract viewers on their own so just let them leech off of hololive

>>59683399
I'm the anon you're responding to, It is actually not anon, even fucking Kson got as many SC as being Coco, we all know who that is as much as we know who the fuck kuro or henya were, is not a secret, it's just a fucking worthless model even michael cat can ''recover'', If Kson wanted she could've commisioned a Coco model with some minor modifications, same with the others.

>>59657873
I never got the hype for IRL streams. Wow you're walking around doing jack shit, pls take all my donos

>>59674741
What lolcow situations are you talking about?

>>59684596
what did he mean by this

>>59653682
Please take Tempus too

>>59653853
>flork

>Vshojo looks like saints
>nijien looks like a black company
Is Mousey a genius for this move?

>>59707256
She probably just wanted to help the guy who was desperate enough to beg another company for help.

>>59653682
Now please poach the rest of Tempiss. I promise i'll watch your streams if you do.

>>59653682
Great work please do more

>>59657848
>why couldn't Niji be bothered to put the effort in for one of their most popular talents?
Sounds like something that would come out of the yacht budget.

>>59653682
link

>>59656347
It can't feel good for sure