/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

nobody can predict the future

>>5899651
He's a CIA sleeper agent designed to deteriorate China's relations with the rest of the world to provide flimsy justification for the US's illegal war soon to follow

>>5899672
>do something to protect talent
>don't protect her at all
>lose China relationships, lose Coco
he's literally incompetent.

is it really so hard to believe that Coco graduates out of her own will? Are you really so addicted to dramafagging?

>>5899695
You give a bunch of weebs in the assholes of the internet too much credit. No one that matters gives a shit about this.

>>5899651
>burn all ties with China, graduate all of holoCN, only to graduate Coco later?
Why do people keep saying this?

>>5899768
Use some logic, would you leave the #1 superchat gig in the world where you get money to sit at a desk and talk for an hour or two?

>>5899791
Because they want to start drama and don't watch streams

>>5899869
believe it or not, there are people on this planet that are interested in more things in life than money

>>5899700
Don't talk like you know shit, retard

>>5899940
Yagoo literally severed all ties with China, with Bilibili, with potential sponsors, GAME PERMISSIONS were revoked (genshin, muse dash, etc etc etc) and after all that, he still lost his #1 earner. He has absolutely failed as a CEO.

>>5899939
Okay redditor

>>5899869
Because she's already swimming in money and wanted to do something else.

>>5899869
If I made Fuck You money in a short amount of time, it'd be real tempting to just invest a little of it then retire young.

>>5899651
He only wishes happiness for his japanese talents

>>5899963
>Yagoo literally severed all ties with China, with Bilibili, with potential sponsors, GAME PERMISSIONS were revoked (genshin, muse dash, etc etc etc)
These are all good things. Never do business in China if you value your freedom

>and after all that, he still lost his #1 earner
She came to him saying she wanted to graduate and doing anything but letting her leave and making that go as smoothly as possible would turn Hololive into a black company.

>>5899651
Only Japanese are allowed in Hololive

>>5899651
Because Coco has no agency.

being a schizo who parrots rrats without watching streams should result in bans, holy shit.

>>5899869
Would it make sense for Cover to dump one of their greatest cash cows?

>>5900257
That'd ban maybe 90% of this board if I'm being generous. The dramafags outnumber the actual fans nowadays.

>>5900313
>That'd ban maybe 90% of this board if I'm being generous
Good, meidos are slacking anyway

>>5900131
And why exactly does she want to quit and leave her friends behind? Doesn't seem like something they want to do.

>>5900444
Watch her streams retard, she explained it, multiple times

>>5900485
Do you think that is the truth, or Coco being nice to protect her friends that still work at Cover? I'm not naive, I think she hates Cover management but won't go scorched earth cause her friends are employed there.

>>5899651
>he
He's just the face of the company. A CEO's job is to execute the will of the shareholders and investors. Unfortunately, shareholders tend to be retards who would prefer a dollar today over $2000 in a week, and JP culture discourages the kind of CEO that would push back against that.

>>5900513
Cover is not being controlled by shareholders

>>5900545
Every company is controlled by it's shareholders.

>>5899768
Because the timing of her deciding to graduate. Coco mentioned that she decided this 3-4 months ago which is roughly at the same time that whole anti mod crap happened and she broke down in tear because of it. So it is hard for me to not see that incident not being a big part in her decision.

>>5900506
NTA but from all the information we got that certainly is the closest to the truth. Whether it's THE truth though we will never have an idea, only Coco alone can answer it.
Regardless of the reason, it's pretty likely at this point that she's quitting by her own volition. The argument for why she isn't fired is already stated by >>5899651 here, you don't side with someone just to stop doing it later on the way since you lose literally everything.

>>5899651
I am starting to think yagoo has no power in this company at all.
Here is a clip
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FDD1rYVQTQ8

>>5900545
>>5900616
Wasn't Cover unlisted until early in the year?

>>5900653
We will have to wait and see, if cover start getting sponsorship from China in a few months from now, then the answer would be clear.

>>5899695
>illegal
China has an enormous ammount of illegal claims and practices on foreign nations soil. the only thing stopping america from dropping their hairy ballsack on china is that russia and best corea don't want them any closer.

>>5900718
ofc he is, being a ceo means he's the operator but not owner or leader

>>5899869
mcdonalds associate detected

>>5899768
I have made this communication as short as I can, assuming you might not be knowledgeable on these terms but you must change these circumstances with haste.

>Kiryu Coco’s graduation stream is almost over.
>Generation 4 of Hololive’s Idols come out onto the stage and they all sing an original song they have been working on together in 3d
>As the song ends the group tearfully says their goodbyes to Coco and walk off stage
>Coco stands alone on the stage and begins talking about how grateful she is to her fans and the community.
>She suddenly starts speaking in a more natural tone of voice and explains the reasoning behind her retirement.
>The livestream starts stuttering and it turns off
>It it thought by some that covercorp has shut the stream down, and by others that chinese “anti-fans” shut down the stream.
>The 300k+ live viewers are outraged, they begin protesting on websites such as twitter, 4channel and the Japanese equivalent 2chan. they demand Coco be given a platform to properly say goodbye to her fans.
>Amane Kanata, Who is part of Kiryu Coco’s debut generation, as well as being her roommate, threatens to leave hololive on her twitter if the stream does not come back online.
>suddenly the stream goes back online and Kson ( Kiryu Coco’s “Roommate”) is wearing a complete kiryu coco outfit and there is a giant taiwanese flag hung up on the wall.
>The real kiryu coco walks offscreen to turn on a projector using the taiwanese flag as a display.
>it is a video of Tanigo Motoaki the CEO of covercorp.
>“I have become fed up, by the pressure put onto my idols by the dirty chinese bugs, cover corp has decided to fully cut off all of its connections to china, thank you.”
>A schizophrenic chinese man named Yuan Huizhong, finds where the “holohouse” is and murders kiryu coco and amane kanata .
>Some then find where tanigo motoaki lives and murder him as well.
>hololive is completely shutdown, only Usada Pekora has continued to stream by using a bootleg software where her character live2d has blanatanly been rigged poorly, possibly by herself.
She is the main reason this message can be delivered to you all now, this is the first major conflict that has begun after the invention of the internet, so I can give you this message using “hindsiight”. This unending conflict has given rise to grand technologies but I am yet unsure whether or not we will have access to them in a time of peace.
>Chinese anti-fans threaten the ceo of nijisanji riku tazumi, telling him to graduate any nijisanji streamer that has ever collabed with any hololive member
>riku tazumi refuses and is subsequently murdered in his own home 2 months later.
>The japanese media and government take this as a threat against their lives and tensions between the two countries rise.
>Akai Haato, real name unknown, was a streamer and content creator for cover corp.
>her being indirectly responsible for Kiryu Coco's graduation took a heavy toll on her mental health, this was only compounded by the isolation from her family she faced while studying abroad, as well as the bullying and dangerous bugs she must have dealed with frequently in australia.
>bugs, the reason an idol vtuber would eat bugs on stream, to satiate a desire for revenge, for comeuppance against an unfeeling bug, an unfeeling family, an unfeeling country.
>Akai Haato went on indefinite hiatus after Kiryu Coco announced her graduation.
>it is believed she lived in mainland china in a dirty hut, begging and eating livestock to survive
>her only valuable possession was a small, barely functioning crt tv, where she most likely watched chinese news stations.
>a Chinese politician claimed that this annihilation of Virtual youtubers was only beneficial to society and that extended exposure to Vtubers would cause Autism and prodigal behaviours in the viewer.
>Chinese scientists deem this to be true.
>shortly after the broadcast announcing Kiryu Coco’s death came to chinese news stations, it is thought Akai Haato slowly made her way to Zhongnahai by foot.
>her youthful, unthreatening appearance, most likely allowed her to be able to get past police officers and city guards.
>during a conference regarding the rising tensions between Japan and China, Akai Haato seemingly waited for the president of the peoples republic of china, Xi Jinping to mention a character she played in her livestreams known as “Haachama”.
>After the mentioning of this character, Haato proceeded to pull out a kitchen knife and mutter an indiscernible sentence, that sounded like a mix of japanese and australian english before stabbing The former president in the Neck. Akai Haato is shot and killed on scene and Xi Jinping dies on his way to hospital.
>This starts World War 3.

You must find some way to intervene. Keep questions brisk our time is dwindling.

>>5900733
Even a company that isn't listed on the stock exchange has shareholders, just a lot fewer

>>5900763
That would be pretty out of the left field considering they're making Aqua perform a live concert on IJN Mikasa later this month.

>>5899963
Muse dash developers are literally asking Pikamee to shill their game to avoid bankruptcy.

>>5900856
I still feel sorry for the devs. They made it clear they had no problem with Hololive, but publishers love making bad decisions.

>>5900805
Annoying orange will start the nuclear holocaust

>>5899695
>Illegal
Ok Zhang

After seeing that interview with coco really I don’t blame yagoo for anything, but he’s a weak leader. He doesn’t run the company. But, it’s not like a Japanese CEO is ever going to be good. Yagoo is better than average.
He is way more like a producer than a ceo.

>>5901076
of course he is, he wants to be the P

>>5900805
>this will start world war 3
stopped reading there

>biggest vtuber news ever
>newspaper articles written about it
>literally an international incident
>half the thread has the basic order of events wrong
really says a lot about who posts here

>>5901132
>biggest vtuber news ever
debatable
>newspaper articles written about it
yeah also written about my ass
>literally an international incident
so is your mommas belt size (equator)
>half the thread has the basic order of events wrong
this is simply not true

nice try zhang...

>>5900831
Wait, what? I need to see this.

>>5899869
Are you fucking retarded? She can keep up the same job without Cover stealing her tips.

>>5899651
>Why did he burn all ties with China, graduate all of holoCN, only to graduate Coco later? He literally loses everything this way.
Quite the contrary really.
He had to keep Coco around because he couldn't risk losing both EN + JP audience. A few months later, Coco retires on her own.
Cover controls the subreddit so it's no big deal.
Then he can focus on fixing CN relations now she's gone.

>>5900131
>These are all good things. Never do business in China if you value your freedom
It's funny how mutts say this when all their richest companies do business in China. China is one of the most lucrative countries on Earth.

Missed the interview, what was learnt?

This thread certified /his/.

>>5899651
He'll reopen HololiveCN by the end of this year, just watch.

>>5899651
Because he couldn't successfully fight off the board of commissioners and shareholders this time, while he can stop and make shit, he can't really decide how it's treated, he still wants to have Coco come over as a guest for big events tho, he is legitimately a saviorfag with a good heart he was just in no way prepared to run this kind of company
https://youtu.be/FDD1rYVQTQ8

>>5904852
He himself is a decent dude
and he has very little power in the computer coco could not bring herself to fault him, and he said he'd wants her to how up as a guest for big events whenever she wants and both wouldn't mind if the fans forced cover to agree

>>5901313
fucking epic sick burn

>>5899651
better dead than red

>>5899695
>illegal
No such thing. Killing them all and letting God sort them out is a Divine mandate.

>>5899651
Board of directors is an evil presence.

>>5900131
>>She came to him saying she wanted to graduate
She did that because Cover basically had her blacklisted from interacting with other Hololive members for months. The EN girls couldn't even say her name.

>>5900813
Do the financially illiterate neets on this board not understand that every company is owned by someone and that the vast majority of companies are not publicly listed but still have shareholders? Ahhhhhhh is everyone pretending to be retarded or do people not grasp this very basic fact?

People really just believe what they want regardless of evidence.

>>5899651
Because, as we've been telling you for months, HoloCN's graduation isn't directly tied to Coco. They were axed (and the JPs left bb) because bilibili sponsored a group that directly competed with them, and didn't want their new talents to be overshadowed by Hololive.
Coco was harassed by people who have nothing better to do than spam her channel in the name of nationalism.

>>5900313
A slow board is not a bad thing, /v/-kun.

>>5900893
They go pushed into a corner where they had to do it or seem anti-Chinese.

>>5899651
Because he's a fucking idiot who stumbled into success by accident. A lot of companies have to deal with China's quirks, but none of them damage themselves over it as much has Cover did.

Stop making these threads. CN had nothing to do with Coco leaving. Cringe cope from Xhangs thinking that their spam has any effect whatsoever other than giving chat jannies work to do.

>>5906209
Not retarded, just inexperienced. Don't worry, life will slip it's dick in their mouth and ass soon or later.

>>5899651
he's not very good at this, please understan

>>5906209
Most people (not just here, in general) believe that a CEO is the single ruler of a company and can just do whatever they want, and probably don't even know what a shareholder is in the first place.

>>5900131
>moderated a bunch of antis who banned a ton of Coco's members

>>5906209
But he is the founder and the president. Which means he likely owns a majority stake in the company and his will can override anyone's decisions.

But it is very clear that Coco left due to management issues and Motoaki Tanigo didn't do anything to appease her.

>>5900791
He is likely the owner or at least majority shareholder. Cover Corp is privately owned.

>>5906209
People in this thread just mean that Yagoo has the main shares

>>5899695
>Illegal
Its not a MANslaughter

>If planting bombs not enough, what can you do?
>You become bomb.

>>5899768
I don’t think anybody will know the full truth, so it’s best not to create narratives. The main point is that she’s gone and it’s over.

>>5899986
dude, she's a vtuber, not a pro athlete. how much money do you think she has saved? even a million usd isn't enough to retire, especially at her age.

>>5900131
>value your freedom
We already suck off americans
What freedom do we have

He actually made the right decision at the right time. Most Japanese CEOs wouldn't have done shit for 3 years and things would have gotten much worse.

He honestly got lucky that he didn't have a significant portion of him company entangled in China. Even now the relationship between America and China is worse than what it was when they bailed on HoloCN.
Most Japanese companies will have a very difficult time balancing their interests between America and China over the next 5 years.

pizzagate pedo symbolism heart in heart symbol

>>5899768
Because there are many newfags who don't watch member streams, I will do a quick recap:

- After the Taiwan incident, Hololive's internal rules got changed and management became more careful to avoid such incidents.
- Haachama and Kaichou were hit hard by restrictions. Coco was pissed off enough in public to mention how they blocked her talking to EN, and they would always imagine the worst of her.
- Coco decided to graduate because she said she can't make people smile if she doesn't smile. Other members like Fubuki and Yagoo tried negotiating with her, but Coco still wanted to leave. Her requests also got greenlit, like finally talking to EN and having her videos stay.
- Yagoo made the effort to appear on her show personally, and also indicated she could return for special occassions.

So yeah, while everything started from the Taiwan incident, how everything unfolded and everyone reacted, was very human and understandable. In hindsight, anyone could say Cover over-reacted, but their paranoia was because they had a big enough of a bite (losing an entire branch and market). They did some good-faith negotiation at the end, but Coco probably decided she'd enjoy working for herself more. She said in member stream that she would not work under any other agency again. All this is public knowledge.

>>5900545
Kek, imagine believing this

>>5900856
PIKAMEE PLEASE WE'LL MAKE THE NEXT CHARCTER A FUCKING TODDLER IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES JUST PLEASE DON'T LET US GO UNDER

>>5900781
Russia.idnonly relevant when hackers make the news and only then because Russia doesn't extradite citizens so hacking foreigners is a lucrative option there. North Korea is never relevant.
We'll never go to war with ChIna because there are McDonalds' in China.

>>5932978
>his will can override anyone's decisions

CEO is just cute way of saying ShareHolders Puppet, most CEO's have no actual power inside of the company past being their Public Figure

>>5899768
she did graduate out of her own will, but she wanted to graduated because cover treated her badly, those 2 things are not exclusive

>>5936284
If he is the majority shareholder, then he isn't beholden to anyone. Again, Cover Corp is a private company.

>>5935902
>would not work under any other agency again.
not that she can, she can always make her own

>>5904943
holy fuck the lengths redditors will go to defend cover. truly just bizarre.

>>5899869
You would if Twitch offered you double up front

Japanese companies aren't run by shareholders like American companies. Ever since the Japanese stock market was exposed as being a scam in late early 90s investors don't trust it.

Instead Japanese companies are run by the board and CEOs are often hampered by having to show respect to each other members.

So in a Japanese company it's more likely that nothing will happen because they don't want to offend someone. In comparison it's likely that a CEO will artificially make the company look better than it actually is in order to pump the stock at the quarterly report.

>>5935902
yep, cover just thought they could put coco on the backburner to earn them money, stopped her from doing anything new or collabing because they were scared from the last time, and im pretty sure it didn't even come into their mind that she might just go "ok, i quit then bye". (probably because a completely native japanese person would never think simply quitting the company is an option)
You could see they wanted to convince her to stay by all the shit they let her get away with this month, but she already made up her mind

>wow that one misstep cost us a whole market, better lock shit down and make sure no one says anything possibly offensive to anyone in the future and possibly looking to get bug money in the future
Sadly its just a tale of a startup becoming big
taiwan is a country. communism is evil and leads to mass starvation and totalitarianism

>>5899700
this,

there wasn't much malcious intent as the management is full of retards, the only malicious ones are the shareholders

Coco graduating has nothing to do with China. They solved the spam issue months ago. Her graduation has to do with "creative differences" with Cover. I.e. there were things she wanted to do that management was stopping her from doing. If you've followed any Holo talent to any extent then you will have seen a situation where they wanted to do something but weren't allowed to. Coco's parting wisdom to her fellow members was to keep pushing the boundaries, because she wants more internal pressure on the company from the talents to let them have more creative freedom. Coco left to pursue that creative freedom.

Don't be surprised when someone who is very obviously Coco springs up on Youtube in the near future.

While Holo fucked up it still seems like it was coco’s choice to quit. Not that there is anything wrong with that choice but I don’t believe she was fired or something just nerfed hard enough that quitting made the most sense.

Also she has fuck you money at this point and can do whatever she wants.

>>5899651
Trust the plan bro

>>5901105
That’s the end of the post, dude

>>5899651
I used to think this was all just rrats but why didn't they just try harder to keep Coco? Why lose everything like this?

>>5899651
it was never about Coco. They just wanted an excuse to can the chink brand

>>5899651
Yagoo made the right call to cut off china. It was the most based decision hololive could have made.

>>5937157
Can't wait for people like Mori and Kiara to keep pushing boundaries doing exactly what Coco wanted while /vt/ screams at how improper it is

>>5937157
Creative freedom that involves nothing but profanity and spreading legs to shave their camel toe, right?

>>5937275
They did negotiate. Just scroll up and read. Coco however understood hew own star power and that she could work for herself. It's a very American mindset.

>>5937348
the creative freedom to be based, anon, to be based

>>5937318
This is even worse from a business perspective.

>>5937348
Yeah, actually.

>>5937157
Uh.... but she already did sprung up a year ago around Coco's boom.

>>5900131
>freedom
Anon people lose everything in the US for saying one word and if you open a small business the goverment mandates that you must work with specific groups or you lose everything you work for.

I mean come on.

>>5937443
why? they were losing money with them and losing all permission for chink stuff anyway.

>>5933812
Dod3 nice

>>5937348
Pretty much, when she pushes people to he more creative she literary means make more meme reddit tier shit. To her saying motherfucker 50 times every paragraph spoken, was the height of comedy.

>>5937157
>>5906868
>>5906434
>nothing to do with China
truly epic
Also liking this Coco was a western whore angle. Real original.

>>5937737
>Also liking this Coco was a western whore angle. Real original.
Do you watch her streams, anon?

>>5937737
Coco is literary vshoujo tier anon. She is worse than Nyanners in that aspect.

>wooo yeah motherfucker motherfucker motherfucker motherfucker motherfucker reddit wooooo im gonna shave my vagina motherfucker let's gooooo
Even Amy Schumer had more originality.

>>5937348
Creative freedom like Asacoco pre-censoring.

>>5937924
c'mon bro why are you being this way

Why are there so many prudes on 4chan of all places?

>>5937763
I watched her play Minecraft and Terreria and she seemed fine to me. Where did the idea that she curses with every other word come from? Do you guys only watch meme review?

>>5938058
Those are "idol purists"

>>5938043
It's the true man, i been saying since forever. When she tells Holo girls be more original she quite literally means be more like vshoujo. To her being a loud western female stereotype is originality. If Gura was out there talking about taking it in the ass behind a 7/11 from some guy she meet an hour earlier at the Dominos Pizza, Coco would be "OMG SO ORIGINAL WOW". She might as well tell holo grils be stunning amd braves or some other twitter tier shit.

>>5937564
Spare us the tortured attempts at equivocation. What you face in America is the conscience of other citizens who have their own agencies and beliefs, not a Winnie the Pooh who wants to be lifetime leader.

>>5938043
>>5938209
Being a seiso idol is 100 times more original in the west than being like Coco. If i wanna see a rude loud women full of tatoos who dont need no man, i look out the window.

>>5938327
The goverment is putting hate crime charges on a women because she made the mistake of who took her phone, its a small altercation and now it becomes some huge retarded issue. The goverment places restrictions on two adults fucking. The goverment forces your business to hire people you don't wanna hire. The goverment forces your family to listen to tranny propaganda when they go to school. Tell me again about how winnie the pooh touched your dick, i dont care about that Xi cunt but don't come at me with the whole broo total freedom brooo when you cant even open a lemonade stand without the government being on your ass on how to run your business or how to grow your community.

>>5938258
You don't watch Coco at all
You don't even watch vshoujo
You probably just watch clips and check /vt/ to tell you what streamers are like

>>5938370
isn't it better to let the girls entertain in a way that's most comfortable to them? part of the fun of hololive is that it's pushing boundaries, some of the most endearing qualities of the girls are not that idol-like, like Pekora's mischievousness, Subaru's loudness and Marine's horniness. Maybe it can go too far sometimes but the girls having range to do their own thing isn't a bad thing imo bro, just my opinion

>>5900805
Didn't happen fucking nigger now go hero

>>5938370
The seiso market is saturated, if you want to talk about creativity. Coco bringing Vshojo's as you say antics into Hololive is her way of opening a new market. Maybe turning Hololive into Babymetal or at worst Babybeard instead another copy of AKB 48.

>>5899651
>He literally loses everything this way.
I have a couple of ideas about what's been going down in upper management. All of them are rrats and all are premised on conjecture. Throughout history people have chosen to take a fall out of a sense of principle. We'll see.
>>5899768
>out of her own will?
I'm sure you think the mountains of death threats made no different at all. Fuck you.

>>5938769
What are your rrats anon, let them all out.

>>5938625
No, again if i want the so called boundary pushing i go to twitch and click on any random girl who is dude totally so original, saying shit fuck motherfucker and check out her tatoos and fuck you attitude.

>>5938580
Yeah I can tell what news sources you subscribe to, because I have heard those stories from partisan snowflakes who are only ever concerned when their "tribe" seems to be attacked. You don't even pretend to list anything in the other direction to hide the partisan cheese. This isn't the board for non-vtuber discussion so I will drop the discussion here, but it's safe to say you need to talk to real people on the other side of the aisle to get out of your bubble.

>>5938625
I watch Hololive to get away from the boundary pushing, anon i seen boundary pushing every day. Fuck every time i go out i see boundary pushing, is literary what all of western media is. Boundary pushing is the daily bread in western culture, i want something else. If the girl wants boundary pushing then tell her to get 10 tatoos, smoke weed and fuck off to twitch with the 5 millon other very original girls doing the same thing.

>>5938846
Only one because you asked: From what I have heard about Yagoo he genuinely wanted this idol agency thing. He hired these girls, enabled them, watched them grow into what they are, and looked out for them. When the Taiwan yab hit he could have made a lot of hardline choices that he didn't.

I think he's just as hurt and disgusted by this as any one of us. The difference is that he can't ever tell anyone. He tried to protect his employee but just couldn't shield her from everything. It brought her down, it brought the company down, and it had the potential to bring all the girls down.

Coco's departure was forced, but I don't think it's because COVER forced her. I think she left for the sake of the other girls and that's why it hurts them so much. When they say "thank you" it's not just because she was a friend and mentor. She martyred herself for them and that breaks my fucking heart.

>>5939016
>>5939164
if Pekora, Subaru and Marine acted like perfect idols all the time would you prefer it?

>>5899651
He did it to show he could, he'll graduate all of ID next too if those indog fans don't stop acting like apes

>>5939147
I know what you are assuming cunt, im not even Republican, i don't watch Fox news and im not even white. Trump is an imbecile and pol is full of cuck schizos.

>oh no you are partisan
Yes i care about things i care about, like every other person with an ounce logic. Dumb retard.

>>5939204
That makes sense considering the "yagoo says a lot of things he's not supposed to"

>>5935188
washington over beijing unironically

>>5939285

Post hand or youre full of shit you LARPer tranny

>>5899651
He's Yagoo

>>5939273
100 percent yes. If you dont want idol shit, literary turn on the tv, everyone is inna race to show off how indepent and non caring they are. If you don't want idol shit just put Spotify on the popular section so you can listen to niki minaj talk about how her silicon ass is wet from her vagina along with hundreds of other oh so independent and stunning and brave singers saying similar shit.

Also Marie will never be Seiso, she already talked about her yuri bulllshit and the thing with sticking hairbrushes in the ass of her chat. I don't care for her.

>>5906434
>Coco was harassed by people who have nothing better to do than spam her channel in the name of nationalism.
I wish more people understood that. There should really be a logic puzzle you have to solve to post here.

>>5939400
Im not shit doing shit for you. Believe me or not, i don't care cunt. Keep believing anyone who doesn't think like you is some white cuck pol schizo bitch.

>>5899651
>Why did he burn all ties with China, graduate all of holoCN, only to graduate Coco later?
western companies should avoid dealing with China, and thats something that exceeds Hololive

>>5938655
>>5938370

People should stop thinking Coco's main appeal is being vulgar. That's like saying Dave Chapelle's main appeal is being a racist because Dave cracks racist jokes all the time. What Coco (or Dave) has is charisma that separates them from normal e-girls (or garden-variety racists in the case of Dave). For instance, between racist jokes, you can see Dave going into introspection and spitting out deep facts. While Coco, between jokes, delivers many heart-felt sentiments, like the dragon story in her own debut stream that made other girls cry. Charisma isn't something you can reduce to base terms.

>>5899939
Burgers will never understand not being enslaved to money.

>>5899651
Kill yourself, retard.

>>5939539
damn dude, you have autistic tastes

>>5939273
You're replying to people that don't watch streams

>>5939539
You could just exclusively watch Sora or Azki or any of thr holomems who are comfy with being seiso.

>>5937157
>Coco graduating has nothing to do with China. They solved the spam issue months ago. Her graduation has to do with "creative differences" with Cover.

This honestly. IF you've never had a job where you just can't see eye to eye with management and a new opportunity arises you fucking jump on it.

Anyone who has gone through this knows the feeling. No amount of "we can change please stay!" or negotiation or begging can stop you. Once that mental barrier is crossed a new opportunity arises you put in your notice and don't look back.

>>5939358
can't believe you sold your soul to child rapists and satanists anon

>>5939832
yep, people who think coco's "creative freedom" amounts to swearing and dick jokes clearly just watched clips from her.

>>5939832
>People should stop thinking Coco's main appeal is being vulgar.
She literary used a play on words (weather hackers) to say motherfucker multiple times as her goodbye. Her last action as a hololive member ever was an lmao motherfuckers reddit tier shit. How are you gonna tell me her vulgarity isn't a main part of the appeal.

>>5939978
what if he is comfortable with the ones he is watching and simply doesn't give a fuck unless you tards always screech about "making them less seiso"?

>>5938058
/pol

>>5939978
No because the writing is on the wall. EN with Mori and Kiara pushing their shit means Hololive is gonna be nimi minaj tier in a year. If you don't want seiso you had all of western media, if you wanted something seiso or maybe cute GFE you had vtubers, but not anymore.

>>5940167
That was also Cocos final message to all of Hololive. Be an average western girl. In her head being all of Hololive being vshoujo tier meant originality.

>>5904516
And guess what happens? Those countries enter into contracts that allow china's market only if the Chinese buy a huge stake in their company, and then the chinks have got them by the balls. He's right, and you're right. I wish death and bankruptcy on corporations that have sold out to the CCP.

>>5940167
I think it's less "everyone has to change" and more "the talent should have the choice for themselves instead of everyone having to fit into the same niche". They can be seiso if they want, but if another holomem wants to do something else they should be able to.

>>5940167
nobody ever told anyone to be less seiso, it's just about doing what you actually want instead of whatever pre-packaged product you are supposed to be, so if you want to be a idol, go ahead, but if you want to have a lewd mousepad, a schizo split personality subplot, or play minecraft on the fucking english server, you should be able to, especially if the audience enjoys it.

>>5940388
then i don't have anything against it

>>5940101
This error is what I mean by reducing charisma to base terms or single elements. What you said is merely one small part of a big stream that managed to nearly hit 500k viewers. And not even that important. Just ask people what they find the most memorable or moving about the graduation stream, and see how many of them will say it's because of some curse words.

>>5905478

>>5900569
fucking this

>>5940194
I don't get it? Mori is actively trying to be, if not entirely seiso, then at least more seiso. She even stopped saying 'fuck' on stream as far as I can tell. Idk if it was management's or her own will, but it's something I've personally noticed.

>>5941161
She outright said it was management
Management fucking hates Americans trying to subvert "perfect" Japanese culture

>>5900856
Source?

>>5900569
I kneel... She is HoloJesus, dying for our sins...

>>5939539
>if you don't want idol shit
nigga they play minecraft and apex/ark for 8 hours a day
doing a festival once every 6 months does not make them idols
sorry you can't cope that you're watching seiso comedians

>>5941241
Oh, gotcha, I never followed her very closely. It's a shame cause I liked the way she acted unrestricted before. I just remember her saying something about "kids watching" and "trying to be better about it"

>>5900569
She die for our sins.

>>5941241

>>5904516
business is lucrative when you have slaves producing your goods

>>5941814
>0.12% of the population is producing all of chinese manufacturing
How are uighurs such efficient workers?

>>5899651
Apparently he offered alot of money to Coco to try and get her to stay on and she refused so getting rid of Coco wasn't part of his plan.

>>5945625
>Coco isn't in it for the money
Absolutely based. God bless her.

>>5900805
Settle down Glowie

>>5899939
Yeah and those people usually end up living in rat and roach infested coffins called apartments, or homeless.

>>5899972
see >>5939847 and proceed to kill yourself

>>5900781
>the only thing stopping america from dropping their hairy ballsack on china is that russia and best corea don't want them any closer.

Well that and the fact that they're a Nuclear armed major power that sits on the UN security council, and we have little to gain from a war with them and a lot to lose.

>>5936094
>We'll never go to war with ChIna because there are McDonalds' in China.

Well, not unless they start shit, we'd almost certainly go to war if they invaded Taiwan, McDonalds or not.

>>5900545
Coco even stated that while Yagoo wanted to invite her to all of the big hololive events as a guest, it might not happen because of management/shareholders.

>>5946750
america regularly ignores the UN and most of the UN hates the UN.

>>5941420
that was the lines they fed her, aside from the known chinese shareholders I'm starting to belieb there's a group of managers sabotaging hololive from the inside

>>5941462
>>5941241
>>5941161
>>5940194
>>5939978
>>5939539
>seiso good
God I hate you faggots. Idols are all fucking AV stars. the joke is that while you crave seiso sluts from the most rich and elite private harem circles, elevated into the status of cash cow, the hololive screetchthots who say fuck, have broken families and lives, are more pure than any of those whores will ever fucking be, and it's obvious because they aren't fit for the line of work of putting on a picture perfect mask and telling millions of people they're "the purest kawaii ugu" They have to use a 2d puppet to even make it.

>>5935902
didnt read