/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

It's simply wonderful, is it not?

>>58815460
yeah, i love it

>>58815460
Let me guess, you are used to watching chuubas who barely have any conversational skill and pausein dead silence every minute? Like Ame or Ina?

>>58815460
Yeah, it's great, love her. Imagine a chuuba actually putting effort into streaming.
HoloEN buckbroke you all

>>58815460
and the reasoning for this thread is? Or do (you) just have a quota of shiori bait threads to meet?

the fuck do you watch vtubers for? seriously consider killing yourself if you bitch about a vtuber vtubing.

>>58815460
wish.com Raden.

>>58815460
That fucking whore

>>58816561
Raden is the Salome of Hololive. She'll be dead in a few months.

>>58815460
>keep her avatar still
This is one of her charm points. If her L2D freezes she will start shaking it around the screen. It's so cute.

>>58815460
imagine in bed

>>58815460
anon do you know what ADHD is

>>58818008
I thought she was autistic?

>>58818008
>>58821006
Cluster B(ingo)

Autism moment

>>58818008
>>58821006
You can have both.

>>58815460
imagine those chompers noshing your dick

>>58824178
God I just want Shiori to bite and chomp all over my body. I want to be covered in her bite marks.

>>58815460
i wish she was a trap

>>58815460
HoloEN unironically needed another "doesn't shut the fuck up" vtuber besides Kiara

>>58825085
At least Shiori knows to be quiet in collabs.

>>58825085
So that's why I instantly liked her

>>58815460
>She just doesn't shut the fuck up or keep her avatar still
That's what being a streamer is
That's what the L2D is for
Are you retarded?

Here is why she is doing GFE despite saying she hated it as cheap content idea
She using you for money and then will run away
https://streamable.com/ofyjvj

>>58815460
and?

I can't wait for her burnout arc and breakdown stream

>>58815460
Dead air is the worst thing you can ever have in a stream.

>>58815868
Well Ina does it to put me to sleep because I have insomnia. She knows how I like it.

>>58815460
Sorry she is riding me on stream

>>58831705
XQC meta kek

>>58831705
>saw some fleshtuber playing a game I like recommended to me
>click on the vod
>silence
>skip ahead
>silence
>skip further ahead
>silence
>skiper even further ahead
>silence
>close the tab

>>58832077
forsen...

>>58832077
>Streamer reacts to X
>sits there glassy eyed watching it
>it ends
>"wow"

>>58827298
>gfe
>grifter
>a dozen unique streams only <2 months in
Hm. Could it be. Idk, maybe she is doing some GFE so she gets to do the weird content streams?
HOLY FUCK!
Stupid ass schizos

>>58833381
So lying to make some bank to be herself once in a while. There is nothing honorable about that.

>>58833532
Bruh, that's literally most artistic endeavors, ever. Very few get to just do what they want. You really think idols love meet and greets? Only the brainwashed ones.

>>58815460

>>58833630
Absolutely wrong. Only hacks do this. Fuwamoco is still doing the same they have been doing. for years.

Shiori loved male collabs, hates streaming and despises idol culture, yet she changed herself to drain otaku wallets. It's despicable.

>>58815460
Cocaine is a fantastic drug

>>58833852
Way to reference PL then ignore the dogs PL. Idgaf because I like all of advent you schizo faggot

>>58833934
I'm not ignoring it I'm directly referencing it. They been streaming and trying to be idols for years and years. They wanted this. They are doing the same things. They have a huge list of goals.

Shiori is just sucking money from people who have no idea how she was.

>>58834112
Dude, do you not even undersand the concept of kayfabe? You REALLY think they would keep up the kayfabe if it wasn't successful and instead focus all their energy towards being idols? How fucking stupid can you be. I already saw you spamming the same shit in other threads.

>>58834206
I absolutely know kayfabe. They did keep it up despite having no viewers and doing irl concerts to 5 people.

If you actually cared about it, at least you could ask Shiori not to "be herself 2 times a month", pretty much confirming she hates all of this shit and needs to "vent". If you don't enjoy drawing just don't draw, if you don't enjoy doing GFE, kayfabe, or streaming, she should just quit and stop being a grifter.

>>58825085
that was a funny as fuck stream/thread

>>58833852
gura...

>>58815460
Jesus Christ she's gorgeous, literally 10/10

>>58833532
Sometimes you have to do soulless work to make the money to fund your passion project

>>58815460
It's great

>>58836555
Only if you suck at your passion.

What even counts as GFE? Whenever I click on one of her streams she's just ranting about some random shit from her life or some gachashit boy.

>>58837967
Whatever a chuuba you don't like does if you hate GFE. Alterbatively, whatever a chuuba you like does if you like GFE.

>>58837620
Yeah that's how it works in reality, definitely

>>58838918
>Yeah that's how it works in reality, definitely

Yes, because she sucks at her passion, which is educational videos, or like artsy grimdark narrated videos. The educational videos are highschool level surface, poorly researched information for children.

Plenty of youtubers do informational videos and still manage to make them entertaining or make something new, not Shiori.

Or the artsy kinda stuff, Shiori's whole gimmick is "I did it myself" "I did it myself, did I say I did it myself?" But the graphics are just amateurish, she doesn't know much graphic design or good writing for them. There is no good rhythm or sense of humor, she is good at those things when she is autisming out but not on her videos.

That includes all the book stuff which are high school level books, there are plenty of book channels on youtube but Shiori only "reads" (audibooks) of YA fiction with hot boys, nothing ever high level, no arguments of difficult authors or discussing what is popular. She cannot ever be a good book youtuber.

That's what I mean, if she applied herself and put out good high quality of that content, she would make it with her passions. But everything she does boils down to "Kek I'm like so aloof and goofy I guess" so she gotta do GFE to pay up for her terrible, amateurish slop videos.

>>58825085
Since she only does zatsudan streams, it's beneficial for her. It's only when she plays a game that requires focus that her chatterbox autism starts to become a pain in the ass. Just like Kiara and her GTA 4 streams.

>>58840315
I sense some baggage behind this post

>>58840376
Nothing I said was wrong. She has to do GFE that she hates so she can afford to make bad videos that no one cares to watch. She is a grifter and dudes have to realize before they get snared and heartbroken.

>>58840539
>She has to do GFE that she hates
proof?

She's my favorite after Fauna. She's quite clever. She has a weird sense of humor. She has fast recall and remembers random minutiae about all sorts of things. She makes up conversations and theatrically gives voices to the characters in her head. She makes strange connections between things, which I love. What's really interesting to me is that she has a large vocabulary but she uses a lot of words wrong. She'll string together a bunch of words at lightning speed and you're like "what??" and then you realize the weird convoluted path her logic took and you laugh. Idk. I'm a big fan.

>>58840789
Been following her since the africa jokes days. She only ever wanted to play with males and do her funny blogs, and you know what, I respected for it. She never jumped on trends or tried to orbit vshojo or do whore content.

She was vocal about hating idol culture and her only dream being getting married as soon as possible. She never cared to watch hololive. But now with Holo she sold out and did a 180 on her content and personality. Feels so fake and ngl I feel betrayed because I subbed to her and donated to her often.
I wanted to see her do better after getting scammed by her previous managers but she only sold out and stopped standing for what she believed in.

>>58815460
That's the best part though. You must be a takodachi, I can understand why a vtuber being interesting and able to happily go back and forth with her chat would be so foreign and scary to you. All without being annoying too, Shiori doesn't need to be a loud zoomer, or a boring korean.

>>58840539
>Dudes need to realize this before they get snared and heartbroken
Because you care about us so much? Fuck off, patronizing cunt.

>>58841345
Yeah. Following and cheering someone for years only for them to turn around, well just sucks.

It's like Mori, I don't think she is the best singer, but I still admire her dedication despite all the haters.
Now imagine if she graduated from Holo and went all "I actually don't give a shit about music lol" And you can get an idea of how Shiori really is.

>>58833852
If she can keep her very obvious sjw/twitter cultist-tier beliefs in check and doesn't sperg out, I don't see any harm in doing the hustle. It sure fucking beats grinding a normal job and she knows it. Even if it means she has to pretend to be something she's not for a little bit. It's not like she's a hooker, she's just pretending to be a bit of a different person. Nothing wrong with doing a job for money. I feel the same way about Gura. She doesn't have to stream a lot and she knows it so she fucks off. And let's be real, they ALL applied to Hololive for a chance to get the big money, anything else was just secondary.

>>58841456
Maybe she changed her mind. Or maybe you’re just delusional. I think it’s both. No one forced her to apply to Hololive and there clearly wasn’t enough incentive for her to keep going with her PL.

¡Yo amo a Moe!

>>58833852
>Shiori loved male collabs, hates streaming and despises idol culture
First is correct, latter two you made up. She was frustrated with streaming because she was literally only reclining the more she streamed over the years, and she hated corpos because her prior corposhit screwed her over.

>>58841881
>she hated corpos because her prior corposhit screwed her over.
That's the point. She didn't like companies, she never watched Holo. And her fans understood that and supported her on her struggle. Then she went and joined a corpo anyways. But as >>58841758 says, it's just about money and the paypiggies will eat it up.

>>58821006
Autists very commonly have ADHD. It's pretty frequent overlap.

>>58841456
>Now imagine if she graduated from Holo and went all "I actually don't give a shit about music lol"
This analogy doesn't work, because she hasn't shown contempt for what she did before.She speaks with fondness when she talks about what she did before.
Also could any of her "real fans" who watched her before say if she really hated GFE?

>>58841956
>Her fans supported her
Clearly not enough. If you really cared about PL Shiori you should be happy that she got this opportunity instead of being a selfish, parasocial retard.

>>58841071
Why do you think she sold out? I've seen some of her PL stuff and while I didn't watch her that much, she seems to act exactly the same now. Her getting into hololive is a culmination of everything she did in the past 7 years or so. Cover clearly saw her as a good fit. Also the GFE stuff is blown out of proportion. She is well aware of it herself if you actually watch her streams.

>>58842698
As a former watcher(Not the schizo itt) I'd say she's definitely way more filtered, but I think she's just nervous about stepping on toes of the company and youtube. I don't think she'll ever be fully like her old self, but I think she's happier with this.

>>58832077
>be me
>loathe long gameplay with someone speaking
>Basically add "No commentary" to any playthrough I see, especially story heavy games
>Found someone largely mid but I like they way they talk
Now I also watch VTuber who play games. Unless they have a habit of stalling. Fucking Ironmouse I sweat to god.

>>58841956
She was in a truly dire situation by the time she applied, more than I care to talk about in this hellhole. So she will try her best to follow the conventions, and to learn idolshit, and to support her genmates, and to give comfort and happiness to people who validate at least some of her life choices. It's only natural. A girl with brain problems changes her perspective on things a bit after realizing that she fucked up her life for a streaming career that went nowhere when she really needed her life not being fucked up. Ground breaking stuff, what a convictionless whore. 2viewfags and nijiniggers would rather chuubas keep their smile than go blue dorito. Fucking despicable.

>>58815460
yes, I love her

>>58842396
>Also could any of her "real fans" who watched her before say if she really hated GFE?
She's always been fond of romantic scenario larps. That said, I don't think Shiori is GFE, I think she's just expanding that larp since a lot of her PL content is something that is either unsavory to management or would make unicorns have a stroke. I don't get why it's called a grift at all, because this still allows her to operate within boundaries that she enjoys, and now she's actually having success while doing it under management that isn't literally detrimental to her existence.

>>58842158
How is it treated? Doesn't giving stimulants to autists make them become turbo-autistics?

>>58840539
>>58841071
>>58841456
Literally what the fuck is wrong with you?
Why do you go out your way to find a reason to hate someone like this? What IS the point?
Are you perhaps one of her ex? Fuck off already.

>>58843198
This is true. Most of the people calling it a grift don't realize that she's literally been trying to work with this as a monetized concept for over half a decade at this point and was literally going backwards as far as success. This is a dream for her.

>>58843198
>2viewfags and nijiniggers would rather chuubas keep their smile than go blue dorito
But that brown faggot you're replying to is clearly an assmad unikek bitching about Shiori being a grifter according to his standards

>>58843351
>He thinks Nijis and 2views wouldn't immediately jump ship to Hololive if they had the chance
DYRBI holy fuck thats hilarious

>>58843241
I don't know about the latter, but I'm an unironic autist with ADHD and I was told about that overlap when I got diagnosed. I take an antidepressant that IIRC is also a mild ADHD suppressant and it's helped my focus considerably.

>>58843351
No? He is bitching that she is pandering too much instead of making video content.

>>58815460
>She just doesn't shut the fuck up
first time hearing a woman?

>>58843522
You know who else is pandering too much?
FUWAMOCO
Bitches (and here we're talking literal) embraced kayfabe to a hilt I won't be surprised their next costume feature collar and chain, and the fans would love it. And they earn not even tenth percent of what Shiori did.
In contrast, Bijou is as "normal Hololive hire" as she could get. She too, not getting shit on.
Nerissa does get shit on for lapping up to Kiara, but nothing else beyond that.
Assmad subhumans just trying to find a way to shit on Shiori on every opportunity.

>>58815460
If a Vtuber shut up or don't move.

Simply put, the simple minded fishes of viewers of theirs won't be entertained.

>>58840315
2view hands typed this post

I would fix her with my Dick and heart however a very loud feeling and inside voice tells me she's only good for a pump and dump, wouldn't even surprise me if she's a previously knocked up bimbo

I'll even go out on a limb and assume most of EN are already planning maternity announcements and time off in the near future but once it gets to that point Cover stocks will be nice and sunk not and the merch reduced to piss on mats

>>58815460
I need to see those melons move. Idk what you're bitching about.

Whore, how dare she tries to be entertaining!!

>>58850609
Shiori clicks and drags her model around when she's chatting and often zooms into her face. No one else in Hololive habitually does that.

if you wanted her to stay still so you can jack off just go look for hentai of her

>>58815460
Isn't it great?

>>58844331
>but nothing else beyond that.
There are plenty of other things to dislike about Nerissa such as her inability to not mention sex or something perverted for 1 whole minute. She doesn't belong in hololive.

>>58840330
>GTA 4
>requires focus
She’s even doing better when she’s distracted and just winging it.
Now, if you mean competitive online games like Paladin or Pokemon Unite then yes. But it’s not like either Kiara or Shiori play a lot of these.

>>58815460
>streamer streams
>nooo bitch whore why are you like this
now that is actually some new form of giga retardation i haven't seen /here/ before

>>58815460

>>58815602
fpbp

>>58859491
>1:30:33 bump
Why is this allowed?

>>58833381
Gotta give it to her, that's actually pretty clever. Brainwash your entire fanbase so you're free to ramble about any schizo idea crosses your head and they'll happily listen to you. The true autistic girlfriend experience.

>>58855588
Marine Exists

>>58815670
based

>>58815460
I want to have a lovey dovey vanilla sex with her so fucking bad

>>58815460
3some with Shiori and Moe

>>58841456
If you're gonna do the "I was into them before they sold out" schtick you should do it with something actually cool like a music band and not an internet anime girl

>>58815460
> doesn't stfu
> doesn't keep her avatar still
so she's actually trying to entertain her viewers, what's the problem?

>>58815460
She's fairly quiet in collabs

>>58844331
Shiori is a fake and a whore and rightfully gets shit on, what does that have to do with the genuine whimsey and zanynes of FuwaMoco?

so many seething 2 views in this thread damn

>>58836286
Ikr. I thought hololive peaked with Towa's model, but Shiori blew it out of the park.

>>58843198
ngtl while I’m happy that she’s in Hololive I do wonder what made her decide to join in on being an idol instead of joining Nijisanji

>>58837620
Rich kid moment
>inb4 my parents weren't that rich

>>58869941
It's baffling to me how anons /here/ still haven't figured out she's an EN nepotism hire. You'll see soon when the collab (female) happens.