/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>58647740
she didn't say anything wrong but I don't like Mousey anymore after the way she treated Silver.
She is a fake person

I was on board with her until the ironlung mention. If not for that welsh sex pest she'd rot in irrevelancy

>>58647740
WDYM? It sounds like good advice, especially to not listen to what "bystanders" (ie: people who don't watch streams or even like vtubers) have to say.

>>58647891
Thats just how the real world works kid. Grow up.

>>58648243
Everyone is a fake person because it fits my nihilistic, cynical worldview.
Grow up edgelord.

>>58647740
Outside of hololive what other EN vtuber made it big on their own?

>>58647740
>VTubing legends like Ironmouse
lol
lmao

>>58647926
So? She simply used her as an example of a vtuber that made it big without belonging to a big corpo, the specifics on what she did to succeed are left unsaid.

>>58647740
God this is so arrogant. All she has to say is to have fun with it.

>>58647740
At least she is humble enough to realize she got lucky and can't give good advice from her place of privlege at the blue dorito. Kiara wouldn't have stated this that is for sure.

>>58648352
Maybe shylilly? As far as ik she didn’t have any prior fanbase or company before she became a vtuber

>>58648421
>God this is so arrogant.
Is isn't though, she literally admitted that she's very lucky.

>>58647740
>vtubing legends like ironmouse
i already had very little respect for mori's opinions but now i respect her even less

>>58648595
>shylilly
Yeah she counts for sure

>>58648081
then why did mori listen to the homobeggars? didn't she see tempus' viewership? clearly they don't watch streams

>>58648715
>clearly they don't watch streams
Altare confused Nene with Polka in a card pack opening stream. They don't know shit.

>>58648342
no u

>>58648715
Mori liked hanging out with Vesper and Magni on stream personally and wanted to do it despite what people said. Beyond that, she didn’t have a particular agenda.
That’s the reason the squad was popular, because they actually had chemistry. Cover’s mistake was not realizing that that is really hard, that is really rare, and that is not a sign that they should hire a bunch more homos and try to merge the branches.
Either way, now that the two people she liked hanging out with are gone, she literally has no reason to collab with males. The girls aren’t stupid, they know the homobeggars are just morons on Twitter spouting bullshit. Most of their viewers don’t care, but there’s no benefit, and none of the girls care about the remaining Tempus members.
Chill. The. Fuck. Out. The branch is healing. Just watch the girls and ignore Mori like the rest of us.

Real "this bitch eating crackers" energy in this thread.

>>58649148
Sister, your shitty memes aren't known to weebs. Try again and speak properly this time.

>>58647740
Because Hololive culture isn't going to change unless you keep owning those h8rz. Obviously. And if you don't poison the minds of the next generation the haters might not stay owned.

It's all luck. There's no logic. There's no winning strategy. Social media is about as predictable as a slot machine. Follower count is basically the new stock exchange. No one knows how or why it works. You can't beat the system. You can't tame the beast. The only thing you can do is keep trying until you catch a lucky break.

Practically every single one of her senpais that are popular now started off as 2view shitters. And she decided to go with legendary Ironmouse. Tiresome.

>>58649262
>There's no winning strategy.
There is, it's called "join Hololive"

>>58649181
You’re all obsessed with Mori over these nothingburgers. There is realistically nothing she can do to destroy the branch and there’s little evidence she wants to. Can we stop talking about her?

>>58649397
No, she does not get a pass now or ever.

>>58649295
Its an English interview aimed at EOPs. The question was for her to give advice to aspiring western vtubers.

>>58649397
*nothing else
>brought in the trash taste ironic weebs
>desperate for eceleb collabs
>wanted to instill nijiEN style culture with homo collabs
she tried to destroy it and she failed

>>58649546
And her reply was "LOL get fucked you didn't get the COVID boost". She is basically making fun of every 2view from her place of privilege.

>>58647740
That's very reasonable. It's not exactly mindblowing advice, but it's all good advice that an aspiring VTuber needs to follow. There are many that don't follow parts of the advice and it really shows.

>>58649662
bro she literally said none of that

I feel like this thread really is full of seething 2views.

>>58649295
They didn't start from nothing though they were under a company.

>>58648672
>>58648367
>>58647926
The fitst en vtuber ironmouse is a legend who started with nothing and didn't need a big company to gain popularity(she had 7k average in 2021 before she even met connor retard)

>>58647740
>Don't let other people get to you
>Now I need to go write my 100 song about my haters excuse me

>>58648352
Neuro

>>58649262
Many people believe that. You should look at the audition videos and audition self-reviews people upload and share. You will definitely understand that it isn't all luck, and that many people are completely hopeless. Then look at what a corpo like Cover wants in their auditions. You will again have to admit that it isn't all luck and that the majority of applicants never had a chance.

>>58647740
>legends like ironmouse
lol
she just kept leeching twitch males

>but also be human
Or you could not be a retard and be a human while streaming. The way she says that implies you have to be super fake asa streamer and it has to be very stressing for you. It's her personal problem, not general truth.

>>58649788
There were no own the haters songs in her latest EP.

>>58649788
To be fair that's the correct advice but she's still an immature and entitled kid. If you look at /here/ chuubas starting out they have to deal with many schizos and manager larpers. They absolutely have to ignore those people if they hope to have a chance at success. Just because Mori is also immature that doesn't invalidate the advice.

>>58649735
ah yes because connur is the only one she leeched, she never did it before
also twitch 7k is worth maybe 3k on youtube

>>58647740
she's not wrong.

>>58649975
True. Just because someone is a hypocrite doesn't mean their advice has to be wrong.

>>58649887
It's a general truth that putting on a show for entertainment is not just being yourself. Even people that are known for being authentic and just being themselves, are later understood to have put on an act. Reality TV is more real than streaming and content creation, but nobody is going to say that reality TV is just like how they are in real life.

>>58649980
>yt cope
Lol

>>58649735
What great advantage did Suisei start off from? Can deadbeats not minimize the efforts of Holos now? It's pretty gross.

>>58650152
But that'd mean acknowledging JP as anything more than Mori social credit points/Rule 34 partners.

>>58650152
>Can deadbeats not minimize the efforts of Holos now? It's pretty gross.
Yeah, this is what these morons don't get. Mori chooses to build up a legend around her friend in western Twitchtubing instead of acknowledging she stands on the shoulders of Holo giants.

>>58649887
T. Seething nijisister

>>58647740
BASED. Mori shilling her real friend instead of those fake whores in the company.

>>58650152
>English interview
>Advice for aspiring vtubers
Like what other example will she use?
>>58650235
Anon just a month after her debut she said in the TTP that Suisei and AZKi are her favorites.

>>58650387
>Mori antis still trying to project this
Reminder that she credited Milky Queen as her introduction to vtubers and idol culture and as an inspiration.

>c*nsistency
yikes

>>58650546
what?

Basically the truth that Mori is talking about is how to use your time effectively. If you have to reply to all the wacky arguments that everyone posts just in this thread you might waste away the entire day. Compare that to if you had spent your day practicing your singing reps and studying a language. Now compare the hypothetical auditions sent in by the one that replied to all the anons and the one that practiced being entertaining. There is always some luck involved but one path needs a whole lot more luck than the other.

Mori is a juggalo (woop woop)

>>58647740
Whatever the opposite of 'Real recognise real' is, applies here

>>58647740
>I speak from a place of extreme luck
Ok, at least she acknowledged that. Because her advice was pretty useless general crap that applies to any career.

>VTubing legends like Ironmouse
Say what you will about Mori, but she really does play up the comedian aspect of Hololive like no other.

>>58650598
TLDR: Don't be a vtweeter.

Why is Mori so hated? Is it the party Gura was at?

>>58647891
That seemed to be a very much we only get one side and not the entire truth with Silver. She says the whole "what is a friend" thing, but if you yourself aren't really keeping on contact either, you can't expect people to just keep onto you. I have had friends who I have had to pull them into conversations over time and that can be exhausting, some people are asocial, so you give them space, but if I have to be the initiator all the time, that feels like I'm bothering you.

As for the topic at hand, none of that advice was offensive, consistency both gives you a floor plan and keeps you from getting getting lost in yourself. The entertainment business is partly a thing of idolatry, where people put you up as something they either want you to be or provide for them, so trying to maintain "You" is important.

>>58650760
Aw aye she was loved before then

>>58650453
Read my post again. I was replying to a poster talking about Deadbeats.

>>58650760
She is the fakest, least consistent person in the entire HoloEN branch.
And I don't mean she puts on a kayfabe or anything like that, I mean she will switch from corporate bootlicker to wannabe rebel against the system, loves idol culture to hates idol culture, at the drop of a hat. She has zero principles but to get that bread for herself so she has no qualms about taking every side of every issue. This actually benefits board deadbeats since she switches so often they can always pick out something she has said or done that fits with their current narrative about her and ignore her latest fuck the haters who love idol culture song.

>>58650950
This.

>>58650950
the most retarded post ina thread already full of those

>>58651027
Shut up, Deadbeat.

>>58648352
shonshon

>>58650950
>likes hololive but acknowledges some of its shortcomings
>likes idol culture but acknowledges some of its shortcomings
wow what a hypocrite

>>58647891
>after the way she treated Silver.
Ironmouse treated her too well and didn't deserve those comments.

>>58650950
>She is the fakest, least consistent person
>hates idol culture, at the drop of a hat
Anon you are the fake one. She literally never said she hated idol culture >>58508523 unless you can quote her saying that
>>58651098
I have to say Mori hating idol culture is the best gaslighting in vtubing history

>>58650950
>loves idol culture to hates idol culture,

No, she pretty much stays consistent that she likes the supporting an artist you like, give as much as you can, underdog to diva part of being an idol. But not liking the obsessiveness and disingenuous nature that can happen in the entertainment industry is normal. And idol culture is only another leg of the entertainment industry, with its own issues that are multi-faceted.

I see more inconsistency with the anime fandom at large where people just can't seem to accept the fact they are geeks and they to seem like the more "sophisticated" or "cooler" geek. Which seems to be universal. Like, you're obviously into this stuff, why behave like liking that same thing is cringe to make yourself look like you're the bad boy rebel. Or just a lack of self-reflection when people criticize others.

>>58648595
>copied vei
>vei took the bait
>lily gets the pr

yeah no, she should thank vei she's an idiot who took the bait

>>58651445
Neither fanbase really cares by now
No one is watching shylily to spite vei

>>58650950
based

>>58651098
>some of it's shortcomings
Like serving the political enemy in any context, you mean? What an absolute service ladder of a narrative you live in where you mysteriously need to be where conservative white men are all the time but also whatever it is we're doing needs to change to suit you and your opinions. Truly, such a mystery, oh me oh my whatever could you be up toooooooo

when they pogrom you monsters finally i'm gonna go piss on the memorial every single year

>>58647740
I don't see the problem here.
Like it or not, Ironmouse started from 0 and worked her way up.

>>58648652
Yeah, that's called flexing. Humblebragging. Most people wouldn't even get as much as a glance from Cover and yet she gets a free job just because she did some mediocre covers of Joan Jett on Youtube or something. Like, I have more talent in my pinky finger than Mori California has in her whole body, but here she is being arrogant about her amazing luck and ability to get noticed by senpai. And yet she's the one making millions of dollars. How is that fair?

>>58651445
Let me guess: you have only watched that one clip where Shylily reacts to Vei saying "don't settle for less", and never watched anything else?

>>58651518
communism is when i can't yell at the anime women for tweeting at the anime men

>>58651518
>conservative white men
check out this little faggot
so you're a deadbeat? kek

>>58651518
I think you need to go back to /pol/

>>58651518
>where conservative white men are
/vt/ is mostly brown

>>58651518
Meds. Now.

>>58647740
> Ironmouse
> VTubing """legend"""

>>58651531
you sound like a seething vtweeter holy shit, I don't even like Mori but since you're more talented than her where the fuck is your content?

>>58648715
Mori only liked Vesper and Magni out of all the homos.
I don't think she's even acknowledged the second gen of homos yet and the only reason she remembers Altare is cause he got forced into the whole Takamori family thing cause of Kobo.

>>58651543
> watching twitch "chuubas"

>>58651759
ywnbj

>>58651697
Started from nothing on august 5th 2017 to beating pekora in q2 2 years in a row

Found out Twitch shadow banned my channel from being *looked* at from the algo/search.

This is depressing.

>>58651531
You don't make sense. If you are more talented, and from your perspective, Cover is lackluster at knowing good from bad, shouldn't you be a star about now? You can't really spin it both ways. She says it was luck and people who know how things work understand that being just at the right place at the right time can make all the difference.

>>58649735
>legend
only start with nothing doesn't make you a legend, Ironmouse has no notable achievement, she was a literal who, people start to know her when she joined Melody's circle then after vshojo then later her entire schtick is being "friend" with everyone e-celebs like connor and Hololive, plus her entire personality being a le sick girl, you can delete her from history and nothing will change not even vshojo let alone EN vtuber or vtuber industry as a whole

>>58648352
Shylily
Onigiri
Numi
Filian
Vei
Off the top of my head. Most twitch Vtubers didn’t have a following or any company build them up until they were already established

>>58651759
Anon, you are a retard if your opinion on Shylily and Vei is based on literally one clip

>>58651697
you may not agree or like her content but that's true, she's pretty consistent (miles more than Gura) and has achieved what others could only dream of, on top of that she constantly appears in the top charts, I don't watch her since she's not my cup of tea, but this is undeniable, no matter how much your dilate.

>>58651821
I have applied to Holostars and Nijisanji every time they've done auditions. And despite my multi-talented background they keep passing me up for these goofy Doppio and Flayon motherfuckers.

>>58651851
Onigiri is a literal who though

>>58651865
>twitch numbers
lol

>>58651803
I'm more impressed by Koyori, she isn't really relying on memes, or being on the ground floor of things, just consistent variety content, and beating very established senpais. Dark Horse right there.

>>58651894
Uhh maybe because you're not as talented as you think?

>>58651175
>>58650509
>Milky Queen
>4k subs on YouTube
>Inspires multiple holos
>British
What is this power?

>>58651865
Ironmouse
>8.61/940 = 9,160 viewers
Pekora
>8.37/270 = 31,000 viewers
Good example of hololive domination

>>58651829
>built up and exploded twitch vtubing
>became the #1twitch vtuber and #1 en vtuber outside of holoen(even beating a majority of holoens ccv)
>both subathons
>1.7mil on twitch
>raised over 500k for the idf
>only en vtuber to get into the top 10 on streamcharts every quarter
>vtuber award
>only en vtuber with 6 years of experience

>Vtuber legends like ironmouse

This bitch I swear, fucking lol and lmao.

>>58652041
Your vtuber streams primarily on Twitch, your post is invalid.

>>58652094
Cope

>>58651518
The Mori haters, ladies and gentlemen

>>58652041
>built up and exploded twitch vtubing
Still Hololive
>became the #1twitch vtuber and #1 en vtuber outside of holoen(even beating a majority of holoens ccv)
No, Koreans get more CCV
>1.7mil on twitch
Nice numbers? I have 30 billion on Twitch.
>raised over 500k for the idf
Well being on the right side of the Palestine conflict is a good thing at least

>>58652109
It's the truth, fool.

>>58651985
Milky Queen is just a very genuine, kind and supportive person who was friends with these people IRL before they became vtubers.

>>58651894
And I'm sorry, shit sucks to suck. I don't dismiss that. But you've already seen people who had to wait three or four times get their shot. This is an employer's market kind of world, where I saw people back when I was in college in 2010, make 3D models as good as you'd see in the Fox Engine at the time, posting their stuff on forums with a Masters under their belt, and unemployed. Or a friend who gave his heart out to Bethesda as a student, with excellent reviews in their QA department, and they dropped him. Or how they told me they only hire QA for three month cycles and expected me to take a $12 an hour job and leave my current $15 an hour job. All that to say is things suck, but don't give up.

>>58651896
>2.5k average
>Literal who

>>58649735
Among the JP chuuba community, Kiryuu Coco is considered a "legend" despite her current state because of -
> Asacoco
> Creation of the HoloBox
> Reintroducing Ark to the chuuba industry as a sand"box" game, and paving way to the very concept of sand"box" games for chuubas in general and holo in particular
> Getting Cover out of China
> Pushing for the creation of HoloEN much earlier that Cover would have risked on their own
> Introduction of the RBI mindset and improving Cover's general handling of controversies
Sora is known as a legend among Holofans because of -
> Her attempts to legitimize the medium of VTubing in general, pushing their boundary of work towards bigger spaces despite not always receiving a positive response.
> Helping the formation of the Holobox and staying around as a pillar of support for her earlier kouhais to consult and get help from.
> Considered the cornerstone around which the earliest and most vulnerable parts of Hololive developed, until Fubuki and later others took the torch from her.
What's the "legend" of ironmouse anyway?

>>58651985
I am now completely certain she was a flesh idol before Mai Princess. Like Mori is also so close with Ci, which means she knew Ci before she was a vtuber.

>>58648406
>that made it big without belonging to a big corpo
If Vshojo wasn't launched around Myth let's not kid ourselves. She'd still be very irrelevant.

>>58650453
> Like what other example will she use?
I think most people are fine with using Ironmouse or Shylily as an examples for aspiring indies to look up to and imitate.
The issue is calling them "legends" for no reason and diluting the meaning of the word.

>>58652275
Anon, this interview Mori did is for people who don't watch vtubers, Onigiri is popular in the vtuber sphere, but she's not known outside of it.

>>58651829
Melody herself was a literal who when ironmouse joined her circle. She was still riding the irl camwhore controversy wave and had barely begun vtubing for a month or two. Also being friends with everyone is a massive power in any place.

>>58650760
There's a whole list of stuff.

>>58651803
>24/7 stream sleeping while Connor runs things.
ogey.

>>58650950
Nigga you're stupid as fuck and can't actually substantiate anything you just said

>>58652277
The thing is this interview is for EN aspies. She can't give many example of EN vtubers who made it big as an indie.
But in TTP where asked she said her favorites were AZKi and Suisei.

Sometimes it amazes me how this board overreacts to so little

>>58652359
You know the reason people don't post that greentext anymore is because a bunch of it is literally just lies, right
The guy who made it even disowned it and doesn't hate Mori anymore

>>58652366
can't believe HoloEN is getting mogged by a sleeping disabled woman

Imagine having to look up to twitchfags. I mean, it's the west so that's just how it is, but it's still unfathomable.

>>58647740
>legend
>started from nothing

>>58652141
>hololive did it
Lol no

>not a single korean has over 100k followers

>>58647740
IRONMOUSE BOARD
IRONMOUSE THREAD

>>58652410
You've gotta join the culture war, bro

>>58647740
>mori says some innocuous corporate line to a question
>120+ butthurt replies
what is this power?

>>58652456
Vshojo owes its entirely popularity to Hololive, all the "girls" in the company included

>>58652436
The level of comprehension I'd expect from a Twitch faggot.

>>58652041
>built up and exploded twitch vtubing
false
>became the #1twitch vtuber and #1 en vtuber outside of holoen(even beating a majority of holoens ccv)
#1 twitch so irrelevant and also wrong since korean chuuba mogged her
>both subathons
>1.7mil on twitch
>raised over 500k for the idf
>only en vtuber to get into the top 10 on streamcharts every quarter
>vtuber award
>>notable achievement
>only en vtuber with 6 years of experience
not even an achievement on their own when she was a literal who, again you can delete her from the history and nothing will change that is how "legendary" ironmouse is

>>58651800

>>58652505
Pink woman BAD

>>58652359
>talks about a-a-alcohol!
>didn't take her application seriously >:(
>"corrupting"
wtf is this shit man

>>58652516
Ironmouse is pulling bigger numbers than any HoloEN while doing 24/7 sleep streams

>>58652582
>>58652516

>>58652582
Show a 24hr sleep stream in the past two weeks

>>58651857
I've made my opinions about several chuubas I don't watch from single clips.
It doesn't really matter one way or the other to either you or them or to me because I don't watch them and never will.

>>58647740
Even ironlung is just lucky at getting noticed, hardwork is just a prerequisite for all vtubers and corpos, it doesn't mean much alone. Covid hit and gave a big boost to everyone.

>>58651985
Well those two in particular know their shit (and I'm happy they made it), so they can see when someone really hungers for the stage and fostering a community like they do. Its not really anything too deep.

>>58652613
>>58652366

>>58652359
>applied as a joke
roru rumao. the list is already wrong from the beginning.
>>58602166

>>58652414
pretty much all that stuff actually happened.
>>58652581
I don't particularly care about the drunk stuff, but a lot of the other stuff is accurate

>>58652323
so the issue is semantics that's why you fags are seething despite you yourself not accomplishing anything worth in your lifes?
You guys are so pathetic, she just wanted to praise her friend, that's it, and Ironmouse is a good example of what an indie can aspire to achieve.
>>58652614
can't do Gura does that off stream 24/7

>>58652340
Yeah. Honestly, it's hard to think of any indie who would be popular enough to be recognized by people who aren't already deep into the vtubing. Pretty much any vtuber who is famous enough to be recognized by normies is a corpo.

Is there any really popular and successful vtuber that spends their time complaining, being bitter, and seething about how much better they are than others, and deserve their opportunities more than them?

>>58652354
>She was still riding the irl camwhore controversy wave
by that alone she is way more known than Ironmouse

>>58652691
Ok I'll have a look at more
>so bad at minecraft on raid night!
>woke gura up early >:(
>stinky bum so vulgar

>>58652354
Not true at all. Mel was well known before Ironmouse joined. Why are you chatting shit?

>>58652726
>spends their time complaining
>being bitter
>seething about how much better they are than others, and deserve their opportunities more than them
How does any of that apply to Mori? She is always self deprecating about herself and who she is.

>>58647740
that's nice
I enjoy mouse and mori's friendship

>>58652414
Liar. It's because updating it to all the things she's done up to the current day is simply too much of an effort for anyone to care about. Gaslighting faggot.

>>58652726
Veibae?

You know you can just wait for Mori to actually do something stupid to have your epic freakout thread, right? Crying over literally nothing like this just makes people who dislike Mori look like the worst kind of whiny cunts.

this thread is all 2view vtweeter seethe

>>58652867
>>58652879
Cry harder. We will criticise your worthless lardtub of an oshi any time we please. Stay in your camp and wear your star faggots.

>>58652818
>self deprecating
So typical white woman who always complains about how bad her position is from her position of privilege, even though she got her success handed to her in golden platter? Look at me I am so sad, boohoohoo.

>>58652652
>>58652516

>>58652983
seething brownie

>>58652802
I was there since the beginning with "hoes mad bros glad" being the retard's rallying cry. Melody started on chaturbate and was convinced to try twitch after a couple of her first streams. She started communicating with Ironmouse on stream within a couple of weeks. Melody didn't know shit about livestreaming outside of being a camwhore and was really awkward and latched on to ironmouse as a crutch to fill in the noise.

>>58647740
she's not wrong you corpo fag

>>58652987
doesn't change the fact that Ironmouse literally destroys HoloEN in her sleep

>>58652822
No one updated because no one cares about her yabs anymore other than obsessed sea dwellers

>this thread

>>58653013
Yeah, but she wasn't a who. She was well known, I'm not disputing the fact mouse helped her and was a good friend.

>>58647740

>>58652951
What there is to criticize her now?

>>58652867
>Crying over literally nothing
Anon people freaked about her making a Kingdom Hearts joke.
>https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1562164959605190656/quotes
You can't make this shit up.

>>58647740
Ironmouse only got where she is by dick riding Connor. He sent the biggest normie faggot fanbase her way, losers that actually watch trash taste.

>>58653013
>didn't know shit about livestreaming
not relevant retard, the point is Melody is way more well known despite anything than Ironmouse because she was a real literal who

>>58653069
>SEAmonkey calling other people SEAmonkey
lol projecting ape

>>58653123
The fact she hasn't roped herself yet.

>>58649837
>You will again have to admit that it isn't all luck and that the majority of applicants never had a chance.
This is why I hate Mori being ''OH MY GOD I'M SO LUCKY'', that's clearly a way to not piss her indie friends who most likely tell her that they have to bust their asses while she got it all easy. Bitch, passing the audition is not luck based, Mori already had a big presence and lived in Japan, it was a no brainer to take her in.
The ones getting lucky are actually the fucking indies themselves because they have to rely on the algorithm to have some discoverability and they don't bust their asses off, they just play fucking videogames and spout some bs then react to videos.

Mori was not lucky, EN was unlucky.

>>58647740
why are all the people Mori speaks of as friends outside of hololive huge assholes? Can she not have like one friend who isn't a huge dick?

based mori
get lucky or lose a lung seething losers

>unironic "it should have been me!" posts

>>58652818
NTA, but I think that he was referring to all the 2views that seethe all day about Mori or other holos

>>58653130
ah yes, but that was in 2022. when faggots in twitter were malding over every single tweet and sending death threats.
The Queen died? I hope Mori Calliope is next!!
If this happened to any other chubba they would have joined the Taliban. And Mori was still more worried about deadbeats and her mom trying to defend her on twitter
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLuZ8qDMOME
The umru drama was the first time all her fans united to shut up someone. The hate has since dialed down a lot and her fans more actively look out for these tweets
>https://twitter.com/BigRiftan/status/1696697675968659663
I don't think people dare to mald over every little thing she does in twitter anymore.

>>58652818
It doesn't, what are you on?
>>58652848
Really? I thought they were just a coom baiter.

>>58647740
There's nothing wrong with what she said. The only reason why it got your panties in a bunch was because you and 99.9% of /vt/ is human trash who don't know what its like to function normally in a society.

Why do 2 view fags seethe at mouse and mori's success?

>>58653305
She is lucky. But it's lucky as in she's maybe 1 out of 50 serious applicants. Not 1 out of 5000 with an equal chance and equally serious.

>>58653709
/lig/ roasties hate ironmouse

>>58652867
Please, those who dislike her have already learned to ignore her and those who like her but want to call her out when she does stupid shit have found more elegant ways to do it, the only ones that keep making these threads are bitter 2views, falseflaggers, trolls or actually mentally retarded people that turned "hating Mori" into their entire identity

>>58653463
Like draws to like, pretty simple.

>>58647740
ironpuke

>>58653744
>You can't insult our Queen!! Y-you're just Jealous!!!

>>58653305
She is lucky because at the end of the day out of the thousands of applicants there was at atleast 50 top tier vtuber material and holo just had to pick a a type cast they needed for their model
if they had a loli model and a loli type cast in their head even the top tier candidate with years of experience wouldn't get picked if they didn't fit that's the luck part.

>>58653463
I didn't heard anything bad about Milky or AmaLee.

I thought you guys said she was off parole?

>>58647740
>ironmouse
>a legend
Shes famous for not being dead yet

>>58654009
kek

>>58653463
>>58653806
The only people outside of holo she acknowledged as friends are Milky Queen, Ci and Rachie.
Did she know Ironmouse before holo?
Does she talk like this to anyone people accuse of being her "IRL friend"
>https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Amoricalliope%20rachie&src=typed_query

>>58647740
Mori interviews are the best

>>58653900
>out themselves as a 2view
Think about streaming rather than shitposting on 4chan, idiot.

>>58654076
Theres also AmaLee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIa8Vaj1HE
But yeah, I have never got the vibe her being close to Ironmouse as accused by Mori antis.

>>58654150
Telling them what NOT to do is still teaching them, anon

>>58654009
Yeah, I heard your mom said the same thing about you last night

>>58654150
God she sounds insufferable

>>58649721
Most Vtubers like Mori though. It's just the VTweeters that despise her since she called them out their lack of actual content.

>>58651697
>>58654606
Why are pekos so angry?

>>58650760
It's mostly because after her "5%" comment, people expected her to quickly fade away and become basically what Gura is now. Instead she has been one of the most consistent and dedicated HoloEN talents when it comes to streaming content while also putting out several music EPs/albums.

>>58652144
because twitch lags on your 50 dollar phone SEAfriend?

>>58654704
>pekos
anon she makes the best reaction images. next you are gonna tell me that flip dramafag is also a nousagi.

>>58651803
Not really the win you think it is. Look at the hours streamed kek. Ironlung is barely hanging on

>>58654803
Because of twitch culture, it spawns faggots like you.

>>58653090

>>58654960
looks like I was correct

>>58655027
kek

>>58649630
>Source: the voices in my head told me so

>>58655062
You have never been correct since the day you exited your mother through the wrong hole.

Antis and numberfaggots are particularly pathetic today.
Mori and Mouse are doing fine while you seethe.

>>58655597
This general census of this thread is that Mori is right but Mousey is a backstabber. Yet another reason why everyone hates Mori because of her retarded deadbeats

>this thread and the multiple layers of larping

>>58655878
>Mori
>right
hahahaha no. She was never right, is not right now, nor will she ever be right. those who say she is are simply arsekissing Deadbeats.

>>58655878
The general consensus of this thread is the mental retardation that I've come to expect from the catalog then, thanks for notifying me this is still the case.

>>58652702
> she just wanted to praise her friend, that's it, and Ironmouse is a good example of what an indie can aspire to achieve.
once again she's free to do that
when you call her a "legend" though, people are 100% gonna make fun of you and not take you seriously

>>58649907
The whole EP is fake remorse with the subtext that haters can get fucked because she's happy now.

> this entire thread

>>58656128
>make up scenarios in his head

>>58647740
Your Mori gave you good advice.

>>58656133
Good. A while back one of you faggots said that being a Deadbeat on this board was like wearing a yellow star in germany. This pleased me, and that is how I want you to always feel.

>>58651865
Ah yeah the sleeping streams inflating watch hours, such an amazing content creator.

>>58656552
I've never understood those. What kind of pathetic faggot would a person have to be to watch a stream of someone sleeping, and worse yet give money to that streamer?

>>58654606
That's only because she is

>>58647740
HOLY FUCKING BASED
bitch knows she got lucky and acknowledged someone that didn't, in more ways than one but still made it.

>>58648432
What? Kiara says all the time that she’s EXTREMELY lucky to be in Hololive.

>>58656219
Mori talked about how she made sure to have a smirking Mori at the end of the Black Sheep video to let everyone know that she's doing well now and haters can seethe.

It's always luck. The question is if you will take that opportunity. It's up to the individual to increase the % of that luck.

>>58651531
>She said she’s lucky, she’s actually bragging! How arrogant!
>I am way more talented than her btw
Vtweeter moment

>>58657326
t. brownnosing arsekisser

Hopefully her cats die so she necks herself

>>58652410
the gift that keeps on giving

>>58657434
Hey now, the cats arn't at fault for Mori being a worthless shitpile.

>>58647740
>ironlung
>legend
lol
maybe the legend of leeching and faking everything
mori is retarded for saying this

>>58649735
pekora started from nothing and now has 30K average
if ironlung is a legend then pekora is a literal god

>>58657434
Too much my guy. You are gonna turn people into pink woman's side for that comment alone

>>58647740
>"don't let things other people says get to you"

>>58657893
SEAbeat...

>>58647891
Good fucking riddance, silverfag.

>>58649887
Keep seething 1views faagot

>>58647740
>ironmouse made it on her own
But she's part of a corpo, lol

>>58648652
Was she a twitch ethot before joining vtuber?

>>58652712
Neuro Sama is the perfect example of this, shit the reason she got big was BECAUSE of the novelty of an AI vtuber reaching the outside mainstream, I've had friends who have never heard of a vtuber before talk about her.
Neuro was kind of like a modern age Kizuna AI in that sense.

>>58648595
Was she a twitch ethot before joining vtuber?

It’s gotta be an extremely fringe minority of people seething about this shit. This is literally nothing.

>>58651531
>yet she gets a free job just because she did some mediocre covers of Joan Jett on Youtube or something
Thats didn't ever happen sister. There was a Made in Abyss cover with Rachie and another English cover with Milky Queen though.
Theres a MV on her RM which now has 6M+ views(back then it was like 1M+) which was entirely drawn and animated by her. She was also an animator for Fake Type and one of the MVs she did had 15M+ views at the time of EN audition.
Lets not pretend she didn't have a solid resume for getting into holo.

Calli has been doing really well lately. Her CCV has been healing, she hasn't had any hot takes or big tabs. You have to encourage people when they do well as much as you castigate them when they do poorly. If there's no path to redemption then there's no incentive for anyone to try to do better.

>>58650950
When’s the last time she acted like a “rebel”? She’s been a full on Hololive shill for over a year now.

>>58659711
>When’s the last time she acted like a “rebel”? She’s been a full on Hololive shill for over a year now.
Nigga still pissed about Tempus existing in her latest MV, with the tagline "Ignore the haters"
Mori Antis have the thinnest skin even for 4channers.

>>58660327
Oh, discord! Keep on trying, bitch.

>>58659711
she has always been a hololive shill since debut though. its weird to twist her statement about how she didn't like idol culture until meeting Milky Queen into "she hates idol culture" or "she hates hololive", like she literally was talking of a time before hololive. she was always sounds happy about being in hololive.

>>58659683
I don't want her to do better. I want her to go off her meds and kill herself.

Hey Mori bystander here can you please do lives with your face again so we can monitor if we really didn't get in your head.

>>58659652
>Thats didn't ever happen
SEAbeat...

>>58647891
>person who pretends to be imminently dying from health issues for the past 5 years
>"real"
People are just dumb.

>>58660639
>Imminently dying
Why do retards keep repeating this line?
She's not dying anytime soon as long as she keep getting highly expensive treatment. The moment her channel dead, her body will soon follow.

There are a lot of vtweeters still mad about OWHT eh?

>>58660498
She was constantly trying to turn Hololive into something indistinguishable from twitch fleshtuber groups. She didn't like Hololive, she liked the idea of Hololive as something that could make her famous.

>>58647740
>Mori casually shits on her colleagues and saying they didn't earn their success
Must be a day ending in y

>>58659683
Anon the hated her for >>58653130
>>58660327
The anniversary lore video mentioned Omega in the credits so theres even the question of when this cover she made for her anniversary was being made.

>>58660702
>OWHT
Tardbeats can never do anything right

>>58660697
Found the dumb person.

>>58660846
Found the illiterate

>>58660697
>she's not dying as long as you keep watching her and giving her money!
Holy shit she's good at grifting. Literally tying her fake illness to the success of her channel

>>58660835
t. seething vtweeter

>>58660761
>makes up a story her getting into holo because of "a mediocre cover of Joan Jett on Youtube"
>it does not exist
>gets told everything she did before holo
>seethes

>>58660940
No wonder she's a legend

>>58660542
ok homo

>>58660795
Please tell me you actually have a brain and understand that Omegaα did not do the score for Mori's cover.

>>58660961
You don't even look at your posts, do you?

>>58660966
Deadbeats always think there's just one person on the internet that dislikes their manatee

>>58649721
No way what moron would waste time shitting on others instead of actually strea- >>58651531
>>58651894 Oh nvm, this moron. No wonder you failed auditions kek. both those corpos really dodged a bullet.

>>58661083
>Made up bullshit reason to hate her
>Called out
>Hurr Mori fat
Mori is far from flawless but the manufactured outrage poisoned the well, faggot.

>>58657434
>Mori antis are also cat antis
Yeah nah nigga go fuck yourself

>>58660761
>She didn't like Hololive, she liked the idea of Hololive as something that could make her famous
so its literally the voices in your head. atleast back then the mori antis quoted that statement to say how she hates idol culture and hololive. now its just "bereib me, she hated hololive".
>She was constantly trying to turn Hololive into something indistinguishable from twitch fleshtuber groups
what twitch flesh tuber thing did she do?

>>58661083
Why do Mori antis pretend that we believe we are talking to one person on the internet?

>>58661280
nta but "manufactured outrage"? Really?
Most people here that dislike Mori still dislike her for the bullshit she did ages ago.
For mer personally was her associating herself with TT and then handling the backlash from it by doing dumb things to "own the haters"

>>58657434
>I DISLIKE A VTUBER SO COMPLETELY INNOCENT ANIMALS SHOULD BE KILLED
And this is why everyone says "Buy an Ad" to 2view threads, you guys aren't making yourselves look good rn

dont you ever get tired pretending to be mad at every single little thing?

>>58647740
Like a normal, sane, rational person saying sensible and unobjectionable things? Because she takes her fucking meds instead of being a catalog OP on the goddamn clover site. Re-evaluate (You)r life.

>>58661505
>Most people here that dislike Mori still dislike her for the bullshit she did ages ago.
>instead of mentioning what happened niggas literally made a hate fiction
Yeah no. There's the cuck incident, lots of drunkard, making gura suffer etc.
Plenty of shit and yet people keep inventing new things to blame her over. That's what manufactured outrage is. It diminish things that truly worthy to be pissed/shitposted about.

>>58650152
>>58650273
Goddamned reading comprehensioncels. She explicitly said she's lucky to have been chosen in Hololive, the REASON that's a lucky break is because of the Hololive giants that come before her. Obviously Suityan is one of them. But this retarded Holoboard can't acknowledge anyone else accomplishing the same thing.
>b-but my oshi was nice to someone in another company! Betrayal!
>>>/vt//#/
>>>/v/
>>>/out/
>>>/kys/

>>58651985
Tell me more about Tammy, that model looks interesting

>>58661657
>hate fiction
Huh?
She replied to a tweet of a fucking anti that posted a pic of her being fucked by Connor while her fans cried.
This is objective, it happened, it's real.
You can make a choice to forgive her if you want but don't try to pretend this isn't a thing that happened

>>58651518
This has to be a false flag.

>>58661887
>while her fans cried
This is the fantasy in your mind anon. Her fans don't give a shit. The cuck fantasy is entirely within your mind as far as Connor goes.

>>58661783
The funny thing is one month after her debut in TTP she mentioned AZKi as her favorites. So, when she said "favorite vtubers" at debut, she meant those two.

>>58661657
>trying to call out others for fiction
>"making gura suffer"

>>58661783
The funny thing is one month after her debut in TTP she mentioned AZKi and Suisei as her favorites. So, when she said "favorite vtubers" at debut, she meant those two.

speaking of past incidents I still think deadbeats are the ugliest mfs, you guys are in right there with Mori with your expertise of exuding cringe by simply existing. Nice job monitoring the catalogue to spread the word of the pink woman btw, alway rember that Mori loves you chu~

Success breeds jealousy
All top tier talents are already in Hololive (or keep trying to pass next interview). Imagine being so talentless, desperate and unlucky to debut as microcorp shitter or 2view irrelevant indie. Just wait and keep trying until you get lucky

>>58660767
I guess she truly believes what Connor said. Thought the same shit applies to Vshojo by this point, worse so because you don't even need to audition to join, just hand around long enough and you're given a big boost

>>58647740
This is some of the only real advice I've ever seen in response to this question. A vast vast majority of vtubers give you the bullshit about working hard and believing in your dreams when it's just irresponsible nonsense.

>>58660767
Yeah if you want to make it that statement into that.

>>58649023
>The girls aren’t stupid, they know the homobeggars are just morons on Twitter spouting bullshit.
tell that to kroni lmao
don't think she gets it yet lolol
she's made them her mods

>>58660542
Don't have to project your mom's end onto anyone else, anon.

>>58649262
Consistency helps luck find you. I find nothing wrong in anything Mori said.

>>58648715
She didn't, she always liked guys. Her oshi is moistcritikal

>TT orbiter praising another TT orbiter

Did Connor ever personally apologize to the girls again after being called out by the orange women?

>>58662236
Whatever happened to her wanting to be a great track maker and producer?

>>58650780
Silver has a long history of dodging the question and crying to play the victim every time she gets into drama. She also never apologizes for anything and tries to pin the blame on anything or anyone else when people go after her. I'm not saying she's a bad person, I don't know her, but I would not trust a word she says about anything after how she's acted over the years.

>>58666020
Especially since she was giggling and being very-passive aggressive and making vague, rrat-ey statements during her whole exit stream. It felt like she was trying to stir up drama or something.

>>58647740
its really more lucky that she applied, than that she got accepted. Shes not a person to enjoy the specific themes and responsibilities of being a vtuber for cover, at the time before her applying and for at least the following year of service. but she is a person who has entertainment goals, has been moving towards that goal on her own for quite some time and because of that had gathered a reasonable following. its exactly what cover would be looking for in a talent.

>>58648715
Mori has been consistent in wanting to make HoloEN closer to NijiEN which is why she wanted to support Tempus. Management supports HoloPro collabs as well even if they did take a break from that during holosummer.

I love watching you HOLOFAGS seething at the fact that Mori is stating facts... Also I want to remind you EN fucktards you are irrelevant to the fandom of Hololive... nothing, yet you feel so entitled. The JP fanbase laughs at you because they are what make that company has gigantic as they are.

>>58661887
NTA but young people do dumb stuff and you can't seem to move on or focus on the topic.

>>58647740
>biggest VTubing agency in the world
Uh oh no wonder people are seething...

>>58666729
How's the JP fanbase doing with their country's birth rate rapidly declining? May want to stop chasing anime skirts in favor of real ones.

>>58668135
fucked if I care, I'm not Jap. I'm just stating facts and you're being retarded, suits you though. Also side not, the irony of you talking about birth rate when the only girls that you are around are the plastic ones sealed in jars.

>>58665010
Only so much time in the day.

>>58647740
As long as she admits she's extremely fortunate and continues to work hard to make the most of her fortune, I'm satisfied with this response.

What I find funniest is how harshly Mori MINDBROKE SEA.

>>58648243
>Using kid as an insult
you look cooler in your head

>>58650950
You put into words what I have felt abiut Mori for a long time, thanks anon. She has all the vibes of a slimy poilitician who says whatever she needs to say at any given time.

>>58668135
Did i strike a nerve? Thanks for the free rent sucker.

>>58648715
she literally wanted to collab with trash taste and similar retards immediately after debuting in hololive and you're asking why she wants to collab with homoEN?

These vtuber legends success makes 4chan fags seethe

>>58671798
>vibes of a slimy poilitician
So, you are just as fake as person who you replied and make up scenerios in your head like him.