/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>5860941
That's why she NEEDS her EN fans.

Fuck the Japanese (except Haato, she's ok)

How about you discuss ore no nuts?

EN antis in general have very poor arguments and dont even anti the most criticisable chuubas

>>5860941
very representative
>not even 35k votes

So many of them of are like that on that website, it’s a shit way of estimating anything.

>Botan has an even worse like/dislike split
Your site is kinda horseshit

>>5860989
That's more than enough for a representative poll though

So does Fubuki
>implying it's the Japanese and not Zhangs

>元々嫌いだった
>はあちゃま化してから嫌いになった
>二重人格から嫌いになった
>お前らどれ?俺は
translated
>1. I hated her since the beginning
>2. I hated her since she became Haachama
>3. I hated her since her split personality began
>Which one are you guys? I'm number 3
Kek

>>5861017
Most of Botan's fanbase are Russian though.

>>5861017
Nobody likes gen 5 so it's accurate, nothing wrong with that ratio.

>>5861036
oops they used japanese meme text so the numbers didn't show up, sorry

>>5860941
Nijinigger site

>>5861018
she has more subscribers than people who even participated on this shit poll

>>5860941
This seems like it was spammed by Nijifans. The lowest rated Nijisanji barely has more dislikes than likes. 90 of the 99 from Nijisanji have positive results, only 5 holos have positive results.

>>5861056
The Nijis have just as much antis, take a look and see

>>5861018
No it isn't. These sites are abused by fuckwits that don't even watch vtubers.
Polls are, and always will be, worthless, unless there is a PUBLIC account attached to it.

People forget that the japs are just one evolutionary step above the bugmen but share mental illnesses

>>5861068
>The lowest rated Nijisanji barely has more dislikes than likes
Nigger why the fuck are you lying?

Haachama still has fans?

Hitomi Chris...

>>5860941
>>5861017


Y'all got nothin on Yagoo KEKW.

>>5861156
Tourists

>>5861068
EN i suppose?

>>5860968
Her EN core fanbase is probably bigger than her JP core fanbase.

>>5861093
lmao stay mad nips

>>5861056
>>5861068
Cope holobronies. Japan hates hololive. They had to send your ass to a containment board on futaba and 5ch.

>>5861042
I don't see them posting about her anymore.

>>5860968
Her EN core fanbasr is probably bigger than her JP core fanbase at this point.

As expected, the Elite is strong!

Number 5 on the most hated virtual youtuber list is a Hololive clipping channel
The hatred for clipniggers is universal
https://suki-kira.com/people/result/ほぼ日刊ホロライブ

>>5861310
No, it is a nijisanji site. You can tell that most holos get 30k votes but Nijisanji members with a quarter of their subs and less than a quarter of their average live views have 100k+ votes.

>>5861310
This is the result of EOP pandering.
It's funny how you guys were so assblasted at Haato discontinuing her EN streams and Kiara live-translating to Japanese but somehow thought nips wouldn't feel the same if their chuubas did the reverse.

>>5861417
Japs hate Chammers because of her schizo shit not the EOP pandering

>>5861390
I put more weight on these numbers than what you see about any Holo. Nijisanji is a safehaven away from foreign influence.

>>5861417
>YWNBJ

>>5860941
You know people here hate Mori for bringing westernshit into Hololove, same deal for Haachama over in nipland. Her stupid antics get tiring for the fans. Let her graduate and go with Coco to her new company.

>>5861390
Eh, i cant really understand, Nijis are smaller but they have some crazy kpop stans kinda thing? Or Holo isn't much popular there?

>>5861448
Im transracial.

>>5861440
So live views, video likes, and sub counts don't matter but public polls where you can vote multiple times do?

>>5861417
Everyone in Hololive is EOP pandering thats partly why they have horrible ratios.

>b-but only Zhangs hate Coco

>>5861525
Why do the japanese hate Coco?

This is like gauging community feeling towards someone using a public poal.

>>5861463
Niji is bigger by volume and their fans are more dedicated. HoloJP's sub count is bigger than all of Nijisanji's combined and of the top 30 average live viewers HoloJP has 19 and Nijisanji has 6. Nijisanji makes more money too.

>>5860941
Don't know
Don't care
Anyone have the full resolution image of the one on the second row far left?

>>5861550
Posted on /pol/ at that.
It's worthless. It is utterly meaningless no matter if it is good or bad. There is no value in any of these numbers because they are horribly open to abuse. There is zero accountability in these shit polls.

>>5860941
Who does that site actually like though?

Just added 10 more dislikes to coco

This site seems broken. Ina most liked Holo member? Over Ame? Fake.

>>5861638
Sora, Nene and Flare

>>5861547
She's the opposite of a Yamato Nadeshiko, a loud and brash American haafu.

>>5861638
Miko, Ina, Gura

>>5861638
sheep

>>5861647
It's based on the ratio not the number of votes
I think

>>5861647
Even a nijinigger site has trouble finding fault in Ina

>>5861017
I don't think Botan even has anits.
More like people that turned the stream off one day because it wasn't their thing.

>>5861190
So Yagoo is (justifiably) the most hated one in hololive while the reddit retards in the West keep memeing him about being best girl. Funny. This just proves that Westerners are fucking sheep compared to Asians. So much for the meme that Asians are a hivemind.

Going through the comments almost no one bitches about Hololive pandering to foreigners and most dislikes seem to be from other holofans or are actual criticism. /jp/ sure likes to perpetuate myths that are easily dismissed if you know moon.

>>5861310

>he thinks futaba matters in 2021

that place is more dead than the most dead boards of 4chan these days, its like a goddamn wasteland over there.

>>5861771
You dont actually take these numbers seriously right?

>>5861802
You were kicked out of the youtube board on 5ch as well, holobrony. Nobody can stand your shit there.

>>5861802
Which one is the popular imageboard in japan nowdays.

>>5860988
Antichama...

>>5860941
She abandoned her JP audience to pander to EOPs, guess why they are upset. EOPs who are not loyal and only like meme garbage.

Every EN there is around 70%, coments are basically.
>Ina Love
>Ame Love
>Kiara Roommate love, Nihongo Jouzu
>Samechan Kawaii
>Kari chan Kakkoii

This site doesn't need to verify you to vote. If you are dedicated nijifan, you will visit this site every day to vote your favorites and downvote everybody else.

>>5861794
Of course they do, they are Discord weebs or /qa/ shitposters. That is legit most of /jp/ now, the original board community fucked off to the board forks when the Touhou secondary fucks got out of control and mods did nothing about it.

>>5861923
/2hu/ when?

>>5861700
Every time I check I see Botan getting more spammers than the others.

>>5861017
>50 year old hag who plays games unpopular with japs
yeah, i wonder why they don't like her

>>5861830

Im a nijifag retard, what does that even have to do with the fact that futaba is fucking dead? it has been dead even before vtubers existed, newfag, if you want to prove holobronies are hated in japan just post the anti-threads in 2ch, there are like thousands of them everyday.

>>5861869

That's the thing, it's easier to love and harder to hate a vtuber when you don't know the language.

>>5861822
he's a schizo retard seanig, of course he does while actual Japanese avoid him.

>>5862027
Yep, see all the dumb fuckwits that bitch about Vshojo being crude then think Hololive are super pure. Toppest of keks.
If only they knew half the shit they talked about.
Seeing all these Twitter tards occasionally freak out when they found out X was in to loli / shota always cracks me up.

>>5861700
JP hikkis go into a frenzy when they see FPS content, it's kinda like how /vt/ goes into a blood rage when anything moderately political is even hinted at by EN.

>>5862088
Actually, that's less ignorance and more that /vt/ fetishizes the Japanese and hates their own race to the point that if a Japanese woman is hyper-sexual it's ok, but if a white or SEA woman is even remotely sexual they're a hoor. Kind of ironic considering their racial stances elsewhere, but I suppose that's just posturing to make up for a deep sense of inadequacy.

>>5862088
I don't watch the crude holos or any of the ones with camwhore alts. That being said I don't really have a problem with vshojo, I just don't watch them.

>>5862107
Apex streams seems to be quite popular

>>5861463
Holo = popular in all over the world but not in Japan.
Niji = popular in Japan but not the whole world.

>>5862302
You really have no idea do you?

>>5862347
>but not in Japan.
They are really popular in Japan. They're just not #1, Nijisanji is. That won't change but it is a 10:9 ratio when it was a 10:1 ratio before the boom. I expect Cover to fall before Any Color does, Nijisanji's practices are good for longevity.

>>5861547
They don't, the site is easily manipulated trash. Even the Niji rankings don't make a lick of sense.

That site is basically designed to attract human trash.
Much worse than 5ch/2ch, 4chan, etc.

>>5862412
It's not 10:1 but it's also not 10:9

>>5861084
>Polls are, and always will be, worthless, unless there is a PUBLIC account attached to it.
Could have just stopped at worthless. Polls are only useful for feedback or propaganda; they're useless per se.

>>5862473
Total live view count from both companies add up to about the same on any given day, dock 10% for EOPs for hololive JP. Also Hololive was way less popular and had fewer talents back then. I think it will settle at a nice 5:3 ratio once the year is done and Hololive dies down.

>>5862429
I think it's mostly bullshit excepting one thing: top most hated members do have a sizable number of antis passionate enough to go to the site and disliked the chuuba everyday in large numbers. It's true that Hajime, Gundou, Aloe, FBK, Towa, Chamers, Kanae, HSKW etc. have these kind of antis in JP.

>>5860941
And that's understandable.
I stopped caring about her entirely last year.
She may be young but i don't like the gimmicks she pulls trying to be something she's not to gain empty subs&views.

>>5862347
I was curious so I checked total live viewers during “prime time” JP.
830pm
Holo: 66.98k live viewers
Niji: 64.74k live viewers
Kuzuha made up over 40% of those views
930pm
Holo - 83.94k
Niji - 23.23k

>>5862500
They are useful if there is 100% transparency and a good sample.
These are hard to do online.

>>5861869
It seems like the JOPs on this site have trouble distancing Kiara's roommate from her Vtuber persona. It's all they talk about.
Also lol I saw someone wondering how much of the charity stream Ame kept. I can honestly see why they would distrust westerners regarding charity, even if from our perspective Ame has absolutely no reason to do a charity stream if all she's trying to do is make money for herself.

>>5862588
Lulu's graduation is on soon. Do the calculation again next week.

Why though?

>>5862692
Kanae JUST started steaming apex, he obviously doesn’t care.
Add another 14k for Niji.

>>5861771
No, that's just reddit being reddit. They are literally slaves who have conversations with bots while worshiping companies. I have not found a single fanbase which spans both 4chan and reddit in which the redditors were not servile, retarded and corporate-whoring imbeciles who will always spout the state-sponsored media programming as truth. I suppose 4chan could be determined as the opposite- chaotic, hostile to all forms authority/corporations/elites and looking for leaders who bring about the idealized world in which redditors shit their pants with rage.

>>5862588
People are just parroting /jp/ myths from 2020. Any Color makes more money but that is because they have better revenue streams and are better managed.

>>5862588
Perhaps it's because nijisanji is twice or maybe even thrice if you count all branches bigger than holo ?

>>5862799
Losing 89 to 23 and having more livers isn't a good look for Nijisanji.

All japs are pedos so they only like cunnytubers like Gura.

>>5861310
Glorious nippon streamers and their 2 troons.

>>5862692
>>5862588
We have months of data showing that Hololive almost consistently beats Niji in live viewers every night, except for big streams like 3D debuts or rare collabs with e-celebs. Kuzuha himself makes up for 1/3 to half of Niji's live viewers when he's having a good day, so any day he doesn't stream, Niji isn't even in the same ballpark. You can argue about how many of those viewers are EOP or how much more fanatical JP fans are for Niji on 5ch, but in terms of consistent nightly live viewers, it isn't really a contest.

>>5862826
If that were true my daughter Choko (GUMI) would have infinity viewers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVsfN9Xbfcs

>>5862785
Isn’t Covers financial report due to come out next month? It’d be interesting to see.

>>5862893
Youtube buffs holoJP. They debuff nijisanji and holoEN.

>>5861647
>Ame
You mean the Amelia Watson who got 0 congratulation from her JP senpais during her birthday? That Ame? How could it be bro...

>>5862893
Holofans are too stupid to use adblock.

Yall arent taking these numbers seriously right? you cant be this retarded

>>5862895
>If that were true my daughter Choko (GUMI) would have infinity viewers.
Anon, she's adorable, but looking at that channel gave me depression. She's been doing this since 2016 and still only has 4k subs?

>>5861647
Holo power rankings (by ratio rather than amount) according to this site:
1) Ina
2) Sora
3) Ame
4) Nene
5) Flare
6) Kiara
7) Aki
8) Mel
9) Okayu
10) Gura

Calliope is the only member of HoloEN not to make it into the top 100. The fact that Mel and Aki are so high says a lot about the unreliability of this site as a measure for JOP popularity. The top 100 are more carried by inoffensiveness than love.

>>5862302
Not for entirely wholesome reasons though. Look at Aqua and Matsuri.

>>5861046
Nene...

Top hated holo
1. Yagoo
2. Takayuki Hatano, the linked in guy.
3. A chan
4. Aloe
5. Suzaku
People sure hate the management. Thats 3/5 non streamer.

Top liked holo
1. Sora
2. Nene
3. Flare
4. Akiroze
5. Mel
Except of flare and akirose, good taste. By the way all the gen 5 doesn't even reach top 20. Seems like anon saying nips hate gen 5 is true. 20th is Ayame by the way.

>>5862977
That’s some high level cope seeing how Hololive was hit hard by YouTube’s live viewership changes. Only the top Nijisanji streamers were really hit (Kuzuha).
>>5863076
Do they like Kiaras roommate that much?

>>5861848
twitter

>>5863022
To be fair, her channel was half dead for a period since she created the Gumi channel, which she recently soft-graduated from and came back to Choko full time.
https://twitter.com/Hoshimiya_Gumi
Even this channel wasn't that big either, she's a niche of a niche

>>5863076
No shit, if they're unpopular no one has the incentive to dislike them 20 times.

>>5863076
I assume Calli took a huge debuff from some of the most recent JP collabs, which.... yeah, understandable.

>>5863100
NOOOOO NOT LE YAGOORINO AND LE A-CHANRINA!

>>5861638

>>5863104
Yes, she was a pretty big nnd streamer 10 years ago.

>>5863104
Beautiful white Germanic cosplayer idol who loves Japan and is fluent in Japanese. Come on, anon.

>>5863251
Wait was she? That's one part of her I never knew about, I had been following her Youtube vids for years.

>>5861310
>Popular enough to have their own board
>"It a bad thing I swear!!!"
>>5861093
The ratio is better than what I imagined lol

>>5863343
Yep, She had some 15-35k streams back in za day Cute german ESL cunny make wonders

Gen 5 was used as sponsors for Microsoft, Family mart, a charity, a magazine and molly. They also did successful vark concerts. Lamy for one has had 2 liquor sponsors. Botan is a sponsor magnet. Nene is the same with her being featured in an anime song and even a galge game. Polka has her own series. I don't know about hated. As far as mainstream appeal, this is unit is the best forefront after gen 3.

And for anyone that thinks Nijisanji makes more money, that is pure BS. They can't beat the hologirls in overall SC nor in.overall high profile sponsorships nor in merch deals nor in merch sold outs nor in ticket sales. The fact that they are half in size but gets more money means the company and the talent gets more out of the deals. Nijisanji has so few big ticket streamers that hiring them is so cheap. That's why cheap crappy games like them. Even their fucking vtubers hates the shills they do.

>>5863100
>Seems like anon saying nips hate gen 5 is true.
Stop making assumptions off of an easily manipulated and obviously lopsided online poll. Don't tell me you also think people actually hate Kiara and Calli because of this board?

>>5861022
Fubuki was hated by JP unicorns long before the T-word drama because she does whatever she want's pretty sure she was the first to collab with dudes and dragged Matsuri into it among other things, I remember she won the most disliked chuuba title in Narukami polls too, didn't stop her from getting million+ subs so if anything polls like that might reflect what unicorns think.

>>5861995
God, now I love this hag even more

>>5860941
>using some shitty website to measure what people like
might as well ask twitter their opinion on things

>>5863662
Ironically I've seen better music gigs for Nijisanji than Hololive, but Hololive may catch up by appearing in some animes.

Someone is Fubuki's hate comment section thinks shes a psychopath

>>5863783
This. It's why they should be ignored.
Polls like that only attract the most autistic of fanbases. Same goes with Mirei, she's still watched and loved "despite" her lifestyle and crudeness being used to attack her.

>>5863783
No she didn't, Narukami has won that poll for like 3 years running.

>>5860941
most seem to be mad because Coco is retiring while Hachama's on vacation.

>>5860941
Most seem to be mad because Coco is retiring while Hachama's on vacation. But they also dislike Hololive in general and call it a black company and stuff.

>>5860941
Using Suki-Kira is a shit way of measuring actual public opinion because votes never reset, you can vote everyday and votes are tied to IP addresses, meaning it incentivises the really obsessed to camp votes. The vote ratios are just an account of how hated you are by fans of other chuuba vs how loved you are by your fanbase.

>>5861093
This is understandable. Gundou hates her fans as much as they hate her.

>>5860941
site raided by chinese, fuck off.

>>5862893
>>5862588
>>5861463

>>5863100
>4. Aloe
hold on holobros, I thought hlgg told me that it was nijisanji fans that harassed her?

>>5862088
I mean being lewd is part of their whole marketing you can see shojofags bragging about it all the time even if it's really just Melody that truly push things further.

>>5862429
Yea you can vote without any verification

Why the fuck are you faggot arguing about a poll on some random ass website ? Are you all that hungry for drama ?

>>5864721
Search term on google. Big deal. If you show a chart showing trends and hashtags on Twitter where Niji actually pay Twitter to be placed as a topic then maybe you can tout something. Even fucking Niji don't bother paying attention to google searches.

>>5865220
all the Coco rrats have been disproven so now we need to find other stuff

>>5864869
If you can't tell that this site is mostly run by nijiniggers I don't know what to tell you

>>5865220
This a gossip board anon of course they will

>>5865236
cope holofag

>>5861700
Botan has a lot of antis, crazy innit?

>>5865370
So you don't have actual relevant numbers then? You don't because they are behind a paywall. Everyone knows Twitter is used to search for vtubers and most especially to engage with them. That's why being on trending gets to be placed on the news. Or maybe you can explain why Anycolor stopped branding themselves as the no.1 vtuber company?? Maybe not. Fucking cope your tribalfag.

>>5863251
>10yrs ago
She was streaming that long already?
How old is she when she started streaming?

>>5865636
Youtube is included in google search trends. What more do you need retard? Just accept Hololive is full eops and that they'll never beat Niji in glorious Nippon

>>5861525
Based

>>5862950
Clippers debuff Nijisanji and HoloEN. The first, by not making clips and the latter by making so many that the original VODs are drowning out in recommended by clipfags.

>Japs create a pollfag site just they can click "hate" or "like" on things and determine what they're allowed to enjoy
This is so fucking weird and stupid. Japan is weird and stupid.

>>5863872
It's probably some chocoball.

>>5865220
This board is for drama, rrats, and roommate posting, right?

>>5866086
They are getting more deals in China than in Japan. Only Hololive right now is getting relevant sponsorships. Anycolor stopped being relevant beyond March 2020. The only time they get spotlight is when a 3D debut happens from the long list of backlogs they have, they make their own tournament that they have to partner with actual prominent pro players to be relevant, when their only top dog plays with ecelebs or when one of them graduates.

>>5861093
>228k votes against Gundou
At least 500 of those are Matsuri on alt accounts

I find it amusing how this board manages to make drama out of everything even a fucking a poll site where you can vote multiple times without registering

>>5860941
>You can vote once everyday
Your site is worthless

>>5861093
It's literaly Matsuri's army of jp Goslings attacking her because she eats HSKW's cunny for breakfast

>>5860941
probably why she is reincarnating as aria and michiru

>>5861093
What did this poor woman do to be this hated? And no, Matsuri doesn't have that many people to be angry at the cucking.

>>5873340
Lyger and jp retards like him using vpn to vote five hundred times times everyday.

>>5860941
This is why Haachama should do full EN weeks just like she did in Australia, EOPs love her, she was my first oshi.

>>5872162
>Getting more deals in China than in Japan
>Only Hololive right now is getting relevant sponsorships
>Anycolor stopped being relevant beyond March 2020
I see what type of retard I'm talking with now...

>>5861068
spammed by chinks use your brain dumbass stop falseflagging

>>5873166
>>5873340
>be mad at Gundou for banging Hoshikawa
>not Hoshikawa for leading Matsuri on while actually liking Gundou

>>5861042
No, it really isn't

>>5873340
She's a whore and a bitch that always bantz with her viewers, if she spoke English you'd call her a Vshojo wannabe

>>5863076
I thought JP antis hated Koreans and Kiara?

>>5860941
Hachaama
take my energy

>>5864869
Who do you think is voting?

ah yes this looks like a JP version of reddit surely people arent fishing for upboats amirite

>>5872519
People here are just bored schizos waiting for the next drama that they themselves cook up

>>5862770
Based

you are terminally retarded if you take that shit seriously

>>5861046
how much were you seething during Nenes 3D debute?

>>5863100
>top liked holos
>2. Nene
>Nips hate gen5
anonchama?

Even this site is shitting on people using Fuwa to numberfag against Lulu.
>Ruru-chan's retirement delivery Super Chat 10 million once again found out how abnormal the unbreakable 17 million is, this guy who is really a virtual host ...
>Shame on you