/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/
>https://www.hololive-songs.com/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber
>https://www.nijiuta.com/

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Why are people doomposting about ReGLOSS? JP never misses.

>>57975041
>wasn't around for 2nd fes
There's a reason people are idolfags now

>tfw no gravure idol vtubers
SFW of course

CUTE

>>57975015
Should have put up a banger of a debut song on their channels if they wanted to keep subs. Of course tens of thousands of subs to a channel with an 11 second clip of some audio is going to get flagged

>>57974994
Because one retard thought lying was a good way to prop up Pekora.

All of gen 0's shilling undone already

my mistake from before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrvcmV2S3UE
ludwig played only up first
june 7 in us, june 8 in japan
also shit thumbnail and title of these fleshies

>>57974673
Homo enablers. Perfect for Ledditchads to farm updoots and clipchads can watch more unhinge clips

Total homo/unity death. Death to ReGloss, death to their shilling. Total unity death.

https://twitter.com/BlueJourneyInfo/status/1699772804869292229
You guys told me Blue Journey flopped, why is it the number 1 album on iTunes?

>>57975104
Shitty subs and constant culls. They'll probably pick up the pace after they debut, but this is just sad to look at

>>57975077
Recent clip numbers
>>57964700
>>57964746
>>57964780
>>57964847
>>57964893

You ARE eating your veggies like the good HoloGOD you are, right anon?
https://twitter.com/hiodoshiao/status/1699369009794388197
https://twitter.com/hiodoshiao/status/1699366365139005816
https://twitter.com/hiodoshiao/status/1699369684012040459
https://twitter.com/hiodoshiao/status/1699370583866417159
https://twitter.com/hiodoshiao/status/1699369089314263070
https://twitter.com/hiodoshiao/status/1699366227016298764
https://twitter.com/hiodoshiao/status/1699366459565322296
https://twitter.com/hiodoshiao/status/1699381000672055768
https://twitter.com/hiodoshiao/status/1699369623098147243

https://twitter.com/juufuuteiraden/status/1698916549560881656
https://twitter.com/juufuuteiraden/status/1699344490530852934

https://twitter.com/otonosekanade/status/1698682403999580540
https://twitter.com/otonosekanade/status/1698737194486415621

https://twitter.com/ichijouririka/status/1698703208804479277
https://twitter.com/ichijouririka/status/1698946314460099004
https://twitter.com/ichijouririka/status/1698910976102588728
https://twitter.com/ichijouririka/status/1698915365806579979
https://twitter.com/ichijouririka/status/1699324195447132587
https://twitter.com/ichijouririka/status/1698909568703840296
https://twitter.com/ichijouririka/status/1698911247109153165

https://twitter.com/todoroki_hajime/status/1698888980866236628
https://twitter.com/todoroki_hajime/status/1698983327490080823
https://twitter.com/todoroki_hajime/status/1698982864334008403
https://twitter.com/todoroki_hajime/status/1698982669445673264
https://twitter.com/todoroki_hajime/status/1699391163571261677
https://twitter.com/todoroki_hajime/status/1698982217492689055
https://twitter.com/todoroki_hajime/status/1698887531549610148

>>57975111
Isnt that regular vtubers? Doesnt like everyone give you gravure style images in their membership

!!!!!!!

>>57975061
The problem is management.
That's why I don't really blame Holo for so many Homo shilling recently

It was probably the IPO that made them intensify the homo shilling because like everyone already speculated, the investors is going to ask about them and their performance sooner or later

>>57975125
>2 more days till debut
Plenty of time for another cull or two!

>>57975140
>paying attention to this thread's delusions

>>57974767
1) him not posting about Pekora
2) you not posting about him

Which one is easier? (Hint: this the toughest question in the universe)

* YESTERDAY'S FINAL TALLY *
>106,673: Subaru (Hololive)
>67,360: Miko (Hololive)
>52,712: Pekora (Hololive)
>39,759: Chiroru (Indie)
>31,231: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>26,831: Amelia (Hololive)
>20,299: Okayu (Hololive)
>17,885: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,755: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,239: Lize (Nijisanji)
>13,859: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>13,028: Flare (Hololive)
>11,506: Botan (Hololive)
>11,164: Choco (Hololive)
>11,058: Furen (Nijisanji)
>11,045: Fuwamoco (Hololive)
>10,433: Tsukasa Tenkai (Indie)

Last thread was shit but /#/ is inclining

>>57975125
Not displayed in numbers.

>>57975125
then another cull tomorrow

Not a unicorn but I hate the holostars and Cover that pushes them most of all. I didn't feel this way in 2020-2021 but now I will never tolerate anything related to them. Cover isn't even telling me to eat good veggies, they're telling me to eat rotten ones.

>>57975149
I LOVE UNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>57975149
>homos so toxic that the spoon is melting

>>57975125
>EVERYONE knows that you need to have a video on your channel to not be culled
>They managed to finally do it properly with Advent
>Still no video on channel

>Failure territory
90-120k
>Catastrophic underperformance
120k-150k
>Marginal success
150k-180k
>Expected
180k-240k
>Successful debuts
240k+

>>57973990
So I'm not wrong.
I remember finding a clip of Ludwig playing only up and the date is a day before Pekora first stream. But like I said, Pekora could only start play it on Friday so she could stream for a long duration.

>>57975127
off topic

>>57975149
Show me one more random ass hello tweet and I will obliterate your face.

>>57975185
>SEPTEMBER 2023 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 45,789 - Apex
2) Iroha (Hololive) - 64,229 - Outfit Reveal
3) Miko (Hololive) - 82,404 - Minecraft
4) Marine (Hololive) - 51,829 - Parasocial
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 48,521 - Armored Core 6
6) Subaru (Hololive) - 106,673 - Oozora Police Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
1x: Aqua, Iroha, Marine, Miko, Pekora, Subaru

>2023 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
171x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
8x: Indie
5x: VSPO
4x: Neo Porte

>PER STREAMER
58x: Pekora
21x: Miko
17x: Marine
9x: Nijisanji, Subaru
8x: Toya
7x: Hololive
6x: Aqua, Kuzuha, Suisei
5x: Yashiro
4x: Fuwa, Hal, Iroha, Mio, Shiina, Towa
3x: Chiroru, Leos, Okayu, Koyori
2x: Aki, Flare, Fubuki, Hinano, Ibrahim, Korone, Lamy, Lui, Maimoto, Nerumero, Salome, Shion, Tsukasa, Watame
1x: Air, Ayame, Beni, Chloe, Choco, Fuwamoco, Gaku, Gura, Gundou, Hibari, Himawari, Ina, Kaede, Kanata, Kanato, Kiara, Laplus, Lize, Mel, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Noel, Nose, Nozomi, Nui, Polka, Ponto, Qpi, Rikiichi, Roco, Ryushen, Ui

>>57975149
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎

So why the fuck did they reveal their song so early?
Why were they all wearing the same uniform?
Why did they hide their live2D models until now, stopping everyone from coming up with their own fanarts to generate buzz?

It's like the new hires they got from all the money they had to spare decided to do everything backwards

>>57975140
>iTunes mattering
Nice try nijisister

>>57975149
I wasn't culled, I personally unsubbed from Eat your Vegg_IS: ReGross

The long awaited death of hololive is finally here!

>>57975125
The sudden boost in subs will just cause another cull.

>>57975140
I love the clean and balanced vocals of each holomem. Towa was the highlight with her low voice

>>57975208
Right, you are virgin.

TOTAL HOMOS EXTERMINATION

>>57975230
you'd be screaming for graduation if any of the advent girls did this

>>57975104
Old men ojisans refuse to eat veggies.

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>9/6 DAILY TALLY
26,831: Amelia (Hololive)
11,045: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
7,485: Bijou (Hololive)
7,046: Ina (Hololive)
6,373: Shiori (Hololive)
5,565: Nerissa (Hololive)
5,261: FuwaMoco (Hololive)
5,191: Mori (Hololive)


>EN GOLDS FOR SEPTEMBER 2023
1) Mumei (Hololive) - 21,874 - Unarchived Karaoke
2) Luca (Nijisanji) - 28,501 - NijiMelody Relay
3) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 12,142 - It Takes Two
4) FuwaMoco (Hololive) - 11,690 - FuwaMoco Morning
5) Bijou (Hololive) - 11,307 - Elden Ring
6) Amelia (Hololive) - 26,831 - Outfit Reveal

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive
1x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
2x: FuwaMoco
1x: Amelia, Bijou, Luca, Mumei

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
14p: FuwaMoco
10p: Bijou
6p: Mumei
5p: Amelia, Luca
4p: Mori
3p: IRyS, Pomu, Sonny
1p: Meloco

>>57974807
The real trojan horses are Suisei, Sora and Miko.

>>57975246
probably some retarded new marketing guy

>>57975260
Towa's voice consistently elevates whoever she sings with since it's lower octave

>>57975222
This but for niji graduations

>>57975280
Wrong, you're a virgin. I was engaged.

>>57975140
It's idol music. The ones that are buying it are gachikois that want to hear their oshi
And that's why regloss is a terrible idea

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699784615924494362
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699784615924494362
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699784615924494362
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699784615924494362
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699784615924494362
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1699784615924494362
GRADUATION YAB

>>57975245
Ah yes, if anyone is going to be against Cover shooting themselves in the foot it would be the chinks

>>57975149
Thanks for the nutritious meal father. I will always eat my veggies and be a good kid. I don't want to end up fat and lazy like anon from my class.

>>57975104
But it wasn't HoloJP though

>>57975292
>2023 EN GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
184x: Hololive
61x: Nijisanji
3x: Holostars
1x: Idol

>PER STREAMER
23x: Fauna
21x: Gura, Mori
19x: Mumei
17x: IRyS
14x: Baelz, Ina, Mysta
13x: Kronii
11x: Amelia
10x: FuwaMoco
9x: Kiara, Vox
5x: Bijou
4x: Pomu, Selen, Shu
3x: Luca, Nerissa, Nina, Ren
2x: Alban, Finana, Hololive English, Ike, Shiori, Wilson
1x: Bandage, Enna, Elira, Flayon, Fulgur, Luxiem, Millie, Petra, Regis, Roca, Rosemi, Sonny, Vesper

>2023 POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
222p: Fauna
166p: Ina
165p: Mori
159p: IRyS
152p: Mumei
129p: Baelz
114p: Gura
105p: Mysta
101p: Kronii
96p: FuwaMoco
92p: Kiara
88p: Amelia
74p: Vox
72p: Luca
45p: Bijou
37p: Shu
31p: Selen
28p: Nerissa, Pomu
27p: Shiori
24p: Nina
19p: Ike
17p: Sonny
16p: Ren
15p: Enna, Fulgur
14p: Uki
13p: Finana, Millie
11p: Axel
10p: Alban, Elira, Hololive English, Wilson
9p: Vesper
7p: Regis
6p: Bandage, Rosemi, Kotoka
5p: Flayon, Luxiem, Petra, Roca
4p: Bringer, Magni
3p: Bettel, Hakka, Poko
2p: Meloco
1p: Kyo, Maria, Shinri, Pippa

Time-frames up

>>57975314
owakon da...........

>>57975235
hololive only need 12 gold to win the year

>>57975297
Kakkoi

>>57975280
Homosharrrrtt graduation soon

Shiiioriii~n!

>>57975222
Mysta got 60k on his graduation tho.

>>57975314
>67
he deserves to rest...

So odd, my YouTube app had the Regloss subs showing in the Subscriptions list first and this morning they aren’t anywhere to be found (I checked, still subbed)

>>57975140
>only 2 reviews
Just because Cover botted it to the top doesn't mean it's not a flop

>>57975311
>married to some used good
Right, you are a cuck, got it.

>>57975167
The investors already asked them, that’s where the “holostars were supposed to appeal to women but failed, what’s your next plan” shit came from.
They even stopped doing their concert cause they cant justify the cost.

>>57975342
Their designs scream early Nijisanji

>>57975374
>ESL

>>57975333
>hololive
>japanese
>not holoJP

>>57975314
Unironically my first oshi, I'll miss him

>>57975208
BASED BASED BASED

>>57975125
Jesus gen 0 became shilling device for nothing. Sadge

>>57975213
rrat:
EN figured out the culling as they suffered during council, JP had THE BOX to mitigate the effect until now so they didn't pay attention.

I will never understand how in a sea of cgdct 3view homos take up so much mindshare in /#/

>>57975222

>>57975378
>proceeds to dirty the new plan to appeal to woman with the failures

>>57975245
As much of a Holofag that I am, DEV_IS is not aimed at me as their target audience so I will not sub to them, simple as

>>57975386
Still a cuck?

>>57975106
Idols have a natural attraction. Hololive being the idol agency is why they are number 1, and will remain so. That's why it's imperative that they continue to fully embrace being idols, and push it even further. I think it behooves Holofans to do their own idol reps so they can fully appreciate their oshi and her own idol journey.

So nijisanji finally wins huh? A lot of the posters here are brainwashed by their propaganda into anti-ing the new JP gen. What a sad thing to witness.

>>57975314
n...no
NO
NOOOOO
Everything just keeps moving and going away. There is no permanence!!

>>57975394

>>57975378
>They even stopped doing their concert cause they cant justify the cost.
I see people post this but haven't given a source were it coming from?

>>57975431
>calls someone virgin
>calls woman used goods
>trying to call people cuck

>>57975423
kek

>>57975358

>>57975428
Fagoo could at least tried to get talented males instead of stray dogs he found in emaciated in the streets. You cant pick random persons and make them an entertainer

>>57975378
I wish Cover just cut Holostars but they can't cut Holostars without looking bad
Is there the way to do that without looking bad?

>>57975440
What new JP gen? DEV_IS is a sidebranch.

>>57975440
No one is anti-ing them chinksister, pointing out that they are objectively flops despite all the shilling isn't being an anti

Does Mike actually want kids? I thought she gave up because she couldn't have that singer's.
Does she still have self-respect, or would any man do by now?

>>57975440
Nijiniggers has mobilized the hate of the homos and turn them into the hate of the girls. Expect all the future new girls to be smeared with the same thing.

>>57975475
They won't look bad though, they just imagine that they'll look bad

>>57975442
shogyo mujo

>Vox's graduation announcement only got 8k
grim

>>57975257
I actually wouldn't worry too much about it, the cull will stop AFTER the girls actually put some fucking content on their channel anyway
Pre-debut sub are just some minor headstart that will eventually become irrelevant in the long run

>>57975448
its a speculation due to stars not having their yearly physical branch concert

>>57975488
but enough about advent

>>57975501
Blame Cover for using the girls to shill the guys. Not one step backwards, us unicorns must hold the line.

>>57975440
>nijisanji finally wins

>>57975280
post tits

>>57975440
Funny how Nijiniggers debuting 7 waves of constant shitters is considered victory

>>57975475
Just spin holostars off into their own company
Sink of swim bitches you have had years to train, dont blame us if you cant swim

>>57975358
>>57975470
Stop spamming the thread with your shitter, Novelkek

>>57975527
why is nijisanji flopping so hard lately?

>>57975208
The funniest thing is... Cover should shill holo runts to me as I only watch girls. But they shilled homos to me......

Oh cover why do you like lose lose situation?

>>57975440
Nice try homobeggar, I will not eat the veggies

>>57975496
Isn't she pushing 40 or something like that? Doesn't have much time

>>57975496
Who cares? She told her kaigai fans to fuck off. Just leave her to the nips.

>>57975475
Just say they are cutting them because they are under performing.

>>57975475
Cutting homos will be the end of Cover people will kyoani their ass.

What did Miko say about holostars? Surely she didn't sit there in silence.

>>57975104
The age of JP being good is over anon. Cover just used an anniversary stream to shill homos and their enablers. It's time to accept your new EN gods.

>>57975125
only debut numbers matter at this point

>>57975540
Remind me again how many subs Advent had predebut compared to Reflop sister

>>57975440
Nijisanji is going for grudge strategy.
For years they tried to stop Hololive from being at the top, now the only choice is to crash this industry with no survivors.
They don't win, but neither do the holos.

>>57975509
I never see vtuber company graduate their talents because they aren't successful compared to other talents. Not even Nijisanji.

>>57975246
>announce, hype and shill HoloX properly
>success
>announce, hype and shill Advent properly
>success
>announce Dev_IS with an esoteric trailer that doesn't say anything at all, people are confused
>announce ReGloss' members one a day, people are so confused that think they are either homos or holos
>finally reveal that Dev_IS is a new branch, it is aimed at a new audience we won't tell you for who tho
>new branch? so not hololive?
>no no no it is hololive but for a different audience!
>the other Holos don't even acknowledge the new branch
>the homos do for some reason
>[confused_shark.png] why is the new branch failing?

>>57975583
BASED.

JWU
How was 5ch's reaction when they shill Homos in gen 0 collab?

>>57975475
>Looking bad
To who? Barely anyone is watching homos in the first place.
They just need to say that they kicked them for financial reasons and because they're not profitable enough, and there you go.

>nijis so mindbroken they are defending a hololive project

>>57975440

>>57975529
>debut numbers are irrelevant
Is this the latest last samurai cope

>>57975297
Ao-chan kakkoi. She should collab with Mori

the golden gen

>>57975448
>No concert anywhere on the horizon
>Concerts need to sell merch/tickets in order to recoup costs
>Homos don’t sell much in terms of merch and ticket sales to cover the costs
Seeing how the attitude towards them changed this year from dumping money into them to trying to desperately have them leech off Holo, they’re most likely under a lot more scrutiny with how much they can invest in them before investors get pissed.

Chloe should sing Shanti

>>57975540
>Homobeggar anti-ing the CGDCT gen
Exposing oneself is retardation homosharrrrtt

>>57975622
>exID
>exKR

>>57975472
No talented dude would join Holostars
Do I have to keep repeating this? The biggest problem with Holostars is that it stuck in a loop
>Shit debuff brand without any benefit failed to attract talented dudes
>Not having talented dudes caused the brand to become debuff shit and unable to provide them with any benefit
Yagoo keep showering his boys with benefits simply because he want the Stars brand to break out of that loop

>>57975106
Beyond the stage? The shitty covid fes with no audience where even the stream version was just a recording of a 2d screen? Where gen 4 didn't get to perform for real due to an advanced form of japanese autism? What the fuck are you on about

>>57975622
It's not because they're unsuccessful, it's because they're unwanted.
Even if they were successful, the correct thing to do is get rid of them.
Not just from a business standpoint but from a moral one.

>>57975440
Stop using hololive as homostars's billboard. It aren't hard.

IF ROBOCO IS A REAL ROBOT GIRL HOW COME SHE NEEDS TO WEAR PANTS!?!?
>Robosa will DEFEND THIS!

>>57975645
Hololive copies everything Niji does. They should copy axing that worthless unprofitable branch as well.

>>57975569
Honestly, why the fuck aren't they shilling the lower holos?

>>57975556
Sell it to other companies isn't bad idea too. I don't think somebody interested though

>>57975645
For destroying Luxiem? Then yes.

So how likely is it that ID3 will get their 3D debuts before Council?
I don't think Mumei and Fauna are going back until October, at earliest.

>increased ip
>increased doomposting and falseflagging
Nahone

>>57975646
The stars sold out on tickets though? Their merch must have done awful.

>>57975695
The bigger Holos already doing that

>>57971672
>>57971672
>>57971672
Anons HELP!!! PAKO CAST A CURSE AGAIN!!!!

>>57975592
>Implying Dev_IS EN edition isnt coming?
You will get yours soon

>>57975440
>i unironically play along because i know sister anti provide discussion, means more exposure.

>>57975670
Faggot, gen 4 did the opening which was the correct way to introduce them as even the established talents were still shit at singing and dancing.
It was the most kino paid live they have done, even better than bloom,

BJ ranked up on day 2. If it stays between 3rd to 5th on days 3 and 4, I would say it has good legs to survive the first week. The ninth day is the true measure if it can keep up the hype, imo.

>>57975475
Gradually reducing their budget and give less attention to them until they wither into irrelevance

>>57975701
They don't even make 1/100 of the revenue Luxiem does

>>57975686
what did cover mean by this?

>>57975708
Has council earned 3D showcases?

>>57975708
Council's is prerecorded, don't know about ID3

>>57975685
Those aren't pants...

>>57975711
>nijisis desperately trying to pretend regross and homos are good because they know it'll doom hololive

No branch from any company has ever received more support and gained so little as the HoloStars. Why on Earth should I pretend these failures don't deserve every ounce of scorn?

>>57975213
? they do have the teaser videos on their channels

>>57975645
>collab with starshit
>get shit numbers
I love karma

1k DORYAAAAAA

Noombers

will there be a meltdown from en fans
if re_gloss performs in 3d in fes5 and no advent?

>>57975724
latechama....

>>57975393
>Not HoloJP branch, but actually HoloJP
Homobeggar literally have 0IQ...

>>57975724
HAHAHAHAH GET FUCKED SHITORI

Allow me to explain the situation with DEV_IS:

- They lost the holofans because it's not JP7 and everyone's suspicious that Cover will use DEV_IS to shill homos which people either hate or aren't interested in
- They haven't gained interest outside of that demographic because 1) they haven't debuted yet and have no content and 2) nobody outside of the holofan community knows they exist 3) the marketing is vague and confusing*

*The funny thing is that those three points are also why VERSEn was dead on arrival. Sony being a black company was always irrelevant because how can you boycott something you've never heard of (and Sony's branding is absent in almost all VERSEn material anyway)?

>>57975753
>Those aren't pants...
WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT…..
>she’s …. n-nude down there?

>>57975440
Everyone knows it's sister psyops, they just enjoying giving them (You)s

>>57975675
Ririka design is pure sex. Even if they become homo accessories at least I can enjoy some new porn art

>>57975681
>It aren't hard.
I told you all the antis are brownigs.

>>57975755
Does Uproar hold the distinction of being the least successful thing to ever have a shibuya subway ad campaign?

>>57975779
FIFY

>>57975761
10 second teasers with the same still image that nobody watches are useless

Can FWMC ever reach Koyori's numbers?

>>57975734
Do you know they are no longer making SCs?
Stop living in the past, sister

>>57975784
Yes

>>57975623
A new branch made exclusively to shill unity and faggotry. My hats off to you, Yagoo. Your best move yet!

>*Brainwashes you to dye your hair blonde and become king of Faerghus*

>>57975777
Pochi love

>>57975778
This is what happens to Kuzuha when he cant leech

>>57975796
I'm sorry you had to find out this way...

>>57975755
Because >>57975661
This shit was made even more evident by Magni and Vesper departure, they finally have 2 dudes who can get somewhat acceptable numbers and they can't hold them in for more than 1 year. That is once again, another mark of shame on the Holostars brand, which will drive even more potential hire away

>>57975777
>Mog majority of nijiCN
Pochi-sensei INCLINE

>>57975790
>Welcome to Hololive

>>57975779

>>57975440
Who fucking about /#/ in 2023.
They used to shit on Niji but now also shit on Holo
>You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain

>>57975809
Perfectly balance...as all things should be...

>>57975645
amazing how people forgot when ID was a 3view branch

>>57975813
Yes just get gud

>>57975725
>You will get yours soon
So you're saying that DEV_IS is a flop branch then?

>EN becoming more and more unprofitable
>EN talents starting more and more fights with management
>Source of trouble with the likes of Mori, Omega, Vesper, Magni
>Contacts with people who attack the brand (Mori)
>EN fans harass JP talents, now spreading misinformation
>Gura is unreliable and likely behind many troubles
Is it time to end the experiment?
Clearly EN doesn't work, and Cover should pull out.

>>57975432
>DEV_IS is not aimed at me as their target audience
Because they can say it’s a side branch, I’m wondering if it exists for the solo purpose of male collabs, while still maintaining Hololive branding. For example, they may be getting pressure from game companies to include both males and female VTubers together, for forced diversity, and had to come up with a game plan for it. This is purely speculation though.

>>57975660
Ah, I forgot that. But Nijisanji uses japanese tactic of starving them dead so they quit themselves.
Would you like to wait Stars quit themselves?

>>57975877
>EN fans harass JP talents
ogey sis

>>57975778
>Valorant
KING NO!!!
The situation with Apex in Japan is kind of grim huh? Not even King want to play it anymore despite Valorant being shittier for numbers

BJ album well well enough at Recochoku.

>>57975440
Nobody who posts in these threads actually watches vtubers.

>>57975811
Total still counts. Kobo has made $77k in total. Vox $1.5m. ID market is worthless. Copying opening an ID branch from Niji was one of the stupid things Holo has done. ES or KR would be way more profitable.

>>57975795
> because 1) they haven't debuted yet and have no content and 2) nobody outside of the holofan community knows they exist 3) the marketing is vague and confusing
You’re missing one important point:
4) their target audience is not part of the audience paying attention to the channels of communication Cover is using to push them

It’s a “chicken and egg” problem, Cover is trying to bootstrap their audience by pushing them
>to a 90% male audience
in hopes to find a female audience for them.

>>57975280
good morning sirs

>>57975778
Why arent sisters Belo Jogoing Kuzuha

>>57975675
I feel like I have seen these designs in yuri manga and anime

>>57975713
Take CtW for example, selling out tickets didn’t mean shit in terms of being successful. What the girls kept scrutinizing was that they wanted (you) to buy the online ticket and buy the merch packs so they could have more concerts in the future. Management was uncertain that EN concerts would be a success and they’re infinitely more popular and profitable than the JP homos.

>>57975725
Unlikely

>>57975547
H3ros before Council?

>>57975879
>getting pressure from game companies
I doubt ReGLOSS will be doing much gaming.

>>57975731
>Gradually reducing their budget and give less attention
They don't need to do anything for that lmao. The constant shilling is because everyone keep forgetting that the stars existed.

>>57975909
That's point 2, I just worded it poorly I guess.

>>57975813
FWMC have 1st army potential anon.

>ReGLOSS is a success
>dogfuckers can gloat
>ReGLOSS is a flop
>dogfuckers can say they're not really Hololive
This is a win/win situation for ken-sama

>>57975935
>forgetting

>>57975547
>Announce 3D debut
>No date tho
I have never seen this situation before, why even bother announcing it then?

>>57975902
meanwhile, it topped at mora at day 1

>>57975918
ao-kun is holo's miyake aoi from d4dj

>>57975795
so true sis
#cut4hex

>>57975725
>Implying Dev_IS EN edition isnt coming?
Maybe because of this point I made: >>57975879

>>57975734
They did now, apparently

>>57975848
It's crazy how every opportunity they had to actually get successful got immediately destroyed by terminations and graduations lol
That pink fag in HomoJP was doing much better than Oga and Shien, only for him to get terminated because of some obscure Beyblade related reason
And now we got the same situation with HomoEN, where the only ones that had decent numbers (decent compared to the other homos, I mean) both graduated at the same time

>>57975899
Look into Devis comment sections, the only comments starting trouble are in english.

>>57975747
Parts of it are, like with most 3D debuts, but most of it is live. The guests, for example.
Mumei and Fauna have already confirmed that they're going back soon.

>>57975813
make them play buff games and reduce shit and vn games to one per week

>>57975679
Investors wouldn't rid them if they're successful
You are very lucky that Stars isn't successful so they can be ridden much easier

>>57975941
How? Their ccvs have been going down. Their only strong content are their karaokes and morning show. I think at best, if they put in the effort, they can hit koyori's level.

>>57975795
You nailed the upper half. Picture perfect explanation. I would add "unfair resource priority such as studio time etc" and "stealing spotlight from holojp's music due to specialist Vs streamers"

Dunno bout the lower half

Pekora is so bad at recognizing patterns. She's never gonna beat this

>>57975973
Shitskin loser. Your branch will never be relevant.

>>57975935
KEK! this is actually true
I only remember stars existence when I open holodex

>>57975927
yeah council didn't do as good as they expected

>>57975811
I remember sisters used to be post monthly SC every thread but they stopped doing that long time ago.
I wonder why...kek

>>57975978
?
Show the girls being harassed.

>>57975302
Miko would never collab with the homos.

Is it funny that these new girls applied to Hololive and were put into this new branch or is it sad? I can't tell.

>>57975632
Fuck I missed a nijiholo collab?

>>57975951
Not even following the thread.

I heard that Sora is really popular on some site called iwara
What is it about?

https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1699766214770429963
/ourgirl/

>>57975877
Okay bug, you're not fucking convincing anyone by mixing the homoshitters in with the girls. At the very least split them up, otherwise everyone in China knows you're here.

>>57975996
Sad to see NijiCN merging, but they did gave a good competition for a while

>>57976038
majestic tits

>>57976022
JPnigs will gloat if ReGLOSS is successful and they'll deflect with the sidebranch thing if they flop.

>>57976038
Her 1M wish is to be breeded, by me!

>>57975077
/news/ anchor
Reply with a short description of the news and a link to the source!

News from today:
>Marine and Fubuki's radio show is holding another live in-person recording with Sara Hoshikawa as a guest
https://skdw-kouroku-sp.com/150-anniv/
>Ui will debut her 3D loli form on Sept 10
https://twitter.com/ui_shig/status/1699428796586144150
>HACHI sang image song for gacha game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eD66NG9Wms
>ID3 3D showcase in October
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf4WWLd9swI
>Only Up! is going down
https://twitter.com/AUTOMATONJapan/status/1699666931576627289
>Sora released a daki
https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/tokinosora_an6th
>Real Sound article about Marine beating the record for fastest vtuber song to 10 million views.
https://realsound.jp/2023/09/post-1426339.html

Yesterday's news:
>Anykara press statement
https://www.anycolor.co.jp/en/sustainability
>UUUM shutting down
https://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/24929733/
>Miko on the site with news in the name
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/602b7ea847f030404e92d7bd5c45c77bcc44bb15
>AkioAir hires a legit loli, forbids NSFW content of her
https://twitter.com/Akio_Air/status/1699133550841455098
>NINA of VALIS won't participate in the live this month
https://twitter.com/VALIS_Official/status/1698999418748551237
>Choco nendo reservations open
https://twitter.com/gsc_kahotan/status/1698894497357435000
>Hololive at Thailand Comic Con
https://www.facebook com/thailandcomiccon/posts/629504329316687

>>57975727
>introduce them
Nigger they had been in Hololive for a year at that point. No one was "introducing" fucking Kiryu Coco in december of 2020. All this meant is that Coco left Hololive without ever performing in Holofes proper and she debuted her idol outfit in her fucking graduation stream. Absolute retardation from Cover. Also the concert itself had nothing on the 3rd and 4th editions, the Japanese government's constant waffling on covid policies left Cover with the worst of both worlds in the end, a gimped stream experience that was meant to be a compromise for a live audience experience that was ultimately not allowed to happen. The only good thing I can think of is that some of the girls sang their most iconic originals there since it was the first fes after the Hololive boom.

>>57975940
Nah, your point 2 is correct, if their goal is to get an “outsider” audience, failing to shill it outside the box is an error

>>57975904
Yet Kaela mogs Vox every week now, how the turntables

>>57975488
>>57975540
>>57975599
>>57975659
>>57975572
>>57975681

>>57975901
Qrd on PEXPEX?

>>57976073
>seething about the correct way of doing things

>>57975904
>KR
Lmao

>>57976063
>>>/jp/
Go back

Oh no...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi7kQy0zJvU

>>57976024
Corn

>>57975795
>everyone's suspicious that Cover will use DEV_IS
>everyone's
Just /vt/

There's a high chance aqua will play Minecraft tomorrow knowing the fact she is in the server right now

>wake up
>expect to see ReGloss at way higher subs
>Even lower now
Lmao, let me guess people started subbing because of all the shilling and YT hit them with another Cull

How high did they get before culling?

>>57976024

>>57975985
They need to stream at JP primetime and go at least 50% JP/50% EN like IRyS, they are VERY popular with nips at the moment

>>57975901
Is Apex dying in Japan? If so, good

>>57975848
It would say something about Holostars when their talents would rather going indie rather than staying in Holostars

>>57975877
Fuwamoco and Shiori literally are the SC queens in Hololive right now

>>57976073
>Also the concert itself had nothing on the 3rd
>3rd fes

>>57975856
>Thumbnail said "Welcome to [Hololive]"
So HoloEN is HoloJP then?

Other than revealing their live2Ds did they explicitly say the purpose of this new branch or they used the same vague corpo language?

>>57976126
>they are VERY popular with nips at the moment
Then they should get 20k daily , not 10k retard

>>57976153
Shiori supas is reclincing tho

>>57976169
HoloEN isn't Japanese.

>>57976117
Late night bruh

>>57975813
Yes if they start to speak like normal people would

>>57976140
Competitive apex is dying but it still does better streamer numbers than any other fps.

>>57975440
> new JP gen
not hololive, don't care
also no matter how much you screech about Holofans not being bootlickers like you fuckers, nijisanji will NEVER win

>>57976121
low 20s

>>57976180
ULTRA BASED!!!
>Soon brother... soon....

>>57975877
Advent is the most successful gen Hololive has released in years, what are you talking about?

>>57976180
God i wish

>>57975904
Kobo had gotten 200k donations on Sociabuzz and the minimum donate amount for that site is $1 so I'm sure she's gotten way more than $77k for superchats

Anyone who throws hate on the Dev_IS girls is an anti, and probably a nijisister. Cover fucked up the initial marketing, that's not really up for debate, but that doesn't mean the girls are a flop, and won't end up being great. They haven't even debuted yet, so no one has any clue as to what kind of content they're going to put out. I for one will be at their debut, supporting them in their dreams, and I will continue to support them as long as they put out great Hololive content, and don't go full homocollaber.

>>57975985
Management needs to support them better. Like clearing up certain timeslot so they don't get overlap. Like management should empty 21jst just for them.

>>57976126
My suspicion is that if they have debuted under a normal JP branch, like holoX, they would have been first army. Right game choices for nip + kawaii futago power.

>>57975795
>2) nobody outside of the holofan community knows they exist
That's not an excuse, that's literally every new gen and they still perform much better. Who the fuck do you think is subbing on the first day to new channels that were only announced on twitter or Reddit? Definitely not tourists.
Arguably DEV_IS should have more exposure due to all the pre-debut shill streams they got, people just aren't that interested.

>>57976140
Would rather watch Apex than Valorant though

>>57975440
People are just unsure. It’s a side branch which may exist for the solo purpose of male collabs, particularly if Cover is being diversity-pressed, while it can still maintain Hololive branding. But I do see the point that it’s too early to know at this point.

>>57975661
YAGOO is basing his investment on what outcome her wants and planning around it's success.
That seems liker a big no-no to me, to just assume success Part A of your plan and proceed with Part B without assessing if Part A's results allow for that.

>>57976244
Too sane for /#/

>>57976099
>>57976140
Map getting boring, PVP too
It's basically been boring for months now. Even back in last year Vsaikyou, Hal also voiced his opinion that he might change Vsaikyou to something other than Apex for once (And then keep doing Apex anyway)

>>57976180
dev_is really stick out like a sore thumb

>>57976219
Don't you suspect anything from that anon's post kek

>>57976219
>Advent is the most successful gen Hololive has released in years
3/4 become 4views right after debut month and cant even get 10k anymore

>>57975632

They really do look like nijis huh…..

Holy overlap.
No wonder no one cares about DEV_IS, there's so much to watch within holo already.

>>57976180
just remove the top part at that point

>>57976244
Anyone who supports it is literally a sister

>>57976116
>Schizos on schizo boards believe everyone thinks like them
Many such cases

>>57976085
Fuck nijiniggers, fuck vshojofags, fuck phasekeks and FUCK HOMOSTARS (you) are all the same.

>>57976252
anon non of the actual first army began with first army numbers, all of them had to push their way up to the top

>>57976081
>>57976243
>the one who is EN-lite has a decent amount of donations
You don't say? None of that is coming from Indogs you stupid fuck. She would make less than Kobo if that was the case. ID makes zero sense from a business perspective. Even Tempiss is more profitable than them.

Does Cover employ any market analysts?

>>57976262
I'd rather watch neither. The Japanese have such garbage taste sometimes...

>>57976244
99% of people here are doing exactly this and are shitting on Cover. Stop being 1 guyed because a few nijiniggers/beggars are trying to control the narrative.

>>57976050
I am not a chink, I used the chink wholesale as an example of what I think should happen to en whores

>>57976114
Reine noooooo your numbers will not be able to take it

>>57976156
What did the 3rd fes do worse than the 2nd other than you having Mori derangement syndrome? It had a live audience, the kino expo, they even let Watame do her greeting song thing with everyone instead of putting her in the opening act cuck shed like in 2020. You don't need to try this hard to posture as an oldfag by pretending that the concert that happened at the height of fucking Myth mania was le super kino just because it's not the most recent one.

>>57976244
This. Dev_Is is what Hololive Production needs right now. The "idol culture" stigma is unironically holding Hololive back, and making a branch like this that focuses on attracting a healthier, less toxic fanbase will be the reason Hololive stays afloat in the long run.

>>57976272
That is the thing, it is something you just don't know until you invested plenty in it. What I said might be wrong, but the only way to know if it's wrong is to invest everything they can in Holostars and see if it improve anything

>>57976244
finally someone speaking with an actual brain

>>57976305
Regloss girls would had no choice but to stream outside prime hours...

>>57975924
If selling out of tickets and 95% merch with like 10k?(forgot this number) virtual tickets is not a success, then I have to ask if management is run like a AAA company.

>>57976356
>shit songs
>shit groups
>Rushia gone

>>57976321
>ID makes zero sense from a business perspective
cheaper

Did cover push homos like Crazy in recent months? Or am I imagining things?

>>57976121
>Even lower now
Still 10k too many. I expect 15k by debut.

>>57976321
>ID makes zero sense from a business perspective
Yet they get a national branch with three generations while there are literally no EU timezone holos (Kiara lived in Japan when she was hired, doesn't count).

>>57976244
>Barely 20k subs
Already a flop no matter what you try to claim homobeggar

>>57976378
why do you think the hate over them increase too?

>>57976360
this must be a false flag right?

>>57976085
So nijicucks is defending Advent now Homosharrrtt?

>>57975779

>>57976356
Anon 2nd fes was literally magic. Check out the 3D lives before 2nd fes.

>>57976311
>Filename
>>57976338
Yes it's called /#/. Yes it's the actual reason why it's spiralling downwards

>>57976338
Yes but Yagoo literally overrules them if he feels it isn't the "right" thing to do.
More than a few people said to his face that he should cut off the unprofitable homos.

>>57976244
>don't go full homocollaber
What if they homocollab as frequently as the top Nijigirls or Salami?

>>57976338
yes, they hire a nigga to come here, post a question hidden as bait and then they use the answers as is

>>57976344
Watching a girl get better and win a tournament or something is like the idol journey, I get it even if their taste in fps sucks.

>>57976338
I think so, Yagoo said that the reason why they started up HoloID was because their numbers showed anime was very popular in Indonesia for an overseas market.

>>57976374
>Rushia
Who?

>>57976180
I mean, at that point the worst part of Dev_is would be gone, so it would just be a weird side branch trying to do their own thing.

>>57976425
>Filename
yes?

https://youtu.be/ZpgXuV7WKMY
Help my wife tally onegai
also enjoy her singing

>>57976428
>What if
>when
>is
>maybe
>incase
Homobeggars undying Cope

>>57976400
How many subs did Suisei have on debut? If they make great content, and are true idols, they will shine regardless of their fucked up initial marketing.

>>57976426
>More than a few people said to his face that he should cut off the unprofitable homos.
The same people also said Holo should return to China so I will take Yagoo's feelz over that shit.

>>57976417
I wonder if HomoEN actually got moved under HomoJP or if Jap also "managed" them.

>>57976347
Sure thing chink

>>57976426
"Cut off the homo" is a big fucking decision that I don't think Yagoo want to do, or at least that is the last last resort
Shitcanning a whole branch is always a PR disaster that no company want to deal with. Remember NijiIN? Or HoloCN? We still shit on Anykara for the NijiID debacle even till today

>>57976498
wtf

>>57976490
>The same people
Homobeggars cant do a single post without lying

>>57976513
meh

>>57976360
"idol culture stigma”
You are creating that by demonization. You are being toxic by not wanting other markets to exist.

>>57976498
don't post gore

>>57976498
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
DELETE DELETE DELETE!!!

I hate Ririsya Music so much for being a leech.

>>57976475
>57min ago
Why didn't you shill her sooner if you want her in da tally dumb anon?

>>57975440
>Not eatin veggie = nijisanji wins

Hmm I guess nijisanji can keep winning

>>57976069
>Only Up! is going down
Thank you Only Up. Without you, maybe there wouldn't be Akupeko collab

>>57975956
Who knows. Council anni is the best date to announce it. They wouldn't overlap it with Myth's own anniversary (though it's also less than a week away with no news from any of the myth girls yet) so the planned time should be still within a month after the initial announcement so the "soon" should still hold true. This probably has more to do with branch management. Since ID2 also had a month as the concrete window weeks before the actual showcases. Myth just announced the dates upfront. Guess they really haven't finalized everything yet when they did the announcement.

>>57975909
>It’s a “chicken and egg” problem, Cover is trying to bootstrap their audience by pushing them
>>to a 90% male audience
>in hopes to find a female audience for them.
The irony is that unlike homos this could work, since more girls is something that audience should like.
But they completely fucked it up. Confusing marketing and all those homo interactions just after shit that HLZNTL was....
Once again Cover put their priorities wrong by making Homos important part of plan. It makes Dev_Is look less like attempt to look for new audience and more like another attempt to push Homos into Holofanbase.

>>57976513
I love Chloe but that is one ugly silhoutte

>>57976406
yes

>>57976513
easy 100k

>>57976498
this cant be real

>>57976498
GRADUATION INCOMING

>>57976498
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAVE THE FILP

>>57976513
it looks like Rushia design

>>57976498
She certainly dive deep

>>57976527
Beggars will use any excuse to defend their male failures.

>>57976483
Retard. The top Nijigirls do collab with males, but if you check their history, they barely collab. I won't say they fully homocollab.
The question is what does "full homocollabing" mean.

>>57976515
The people that will shit on Cover are the same ones who keep asking for more homos and keep saying they do nothing for them.

>>57976560
u gay

Should cover nuke devi_is and ReGLOSS channels, wait a month, then restart with a set of new channels?

>>57976360
Sure sister, I hope theres no more nijiGraduation this year...

>>57975440
>t. retarded sister who missed 50 thread discussing management.
The girl will be fine since they are still in hololive and not outside the box completely.

>>57976498
I will groom this 1 view
I will save her

Send my friend this image and he said "who's that boy ?" Lmao

>>57976498
ENTER
RASPBERRY GODDESS

>>57976513
You are suppose to go full slut Chloe not cute. You will never surpass Ayame

>>57976498
There are probably more than 7 Nijifag shitposting here itt right now

>>57976486
>comparing 2019 hololive to 2023
Are you retarded?

>>57976498
>7
that's God number

>>57976608
hook, line, and sinker

>>57976498
What kind of viewer verification is this?

>>57976498
we have more nijikeks in this thread than watching this flop

>>57976593
>Sucking dick once doesnt make you Gay

The reason why ReGLOSS flopped:
>They're all normal humans
Boring human designs are for nijis not for Holochads

Who's the most popular vtuber in the world?
>Gura: She's a shark
>Pekora: She's a rabbit
>Korone: She's a dog

It's just that simple

It's working
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ajh0ZOVL70