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Tummy Edition

>What is /lig/?
/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.

>Why /lig/?
Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.

>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?
Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.

Numbers for 9/4:
1: https://twitch.tv/vedal987 (5,919)
2: https://twitch.tv/filian (5,099)
3: https://twitch.tv/shxtou (4,913)
4: https://twitch.tv/Shylily (4,666)
5: https://twitch.tv/vei (4,425)
6: https://twitch.tv/Yuzu (3,261)
7: https://twitch.tv/nihmune (3,164)
8: https://twitch.tv/BuffPup (2,779)
9: https://twitch.tv/Rainhoe (2,689)
10: https://twitch.tv/Sinder (2,514)

Non-English:
1: https://twitch.tv/lilpaaaaaa (12,203) *Korean
2: https://twitch.tv/jingburger (7,874) *Korean
3: https://twitch.tv/gosegugosegu (7,449) *Korean

>Wait isn't that one a corpo?
For historical reasons, small companies are fine temporarily as long as they have one talent at 500-ish.

>Twitch Clips Guide
https://pastelink.net/34vd5

>VOD Archival Guide
https://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide

>/lig/ VOD Archive
https://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig

>Koikatsu cards (SEEEEEEEEEX)
https://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA

>Tiermaker
https://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--unofficial-tier-list-v60-15149537

>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)
https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg

>Upcoming Birthdays:
September 6th - Lyra
September 8th - Vesper
September 9th - Nanobites
September 10th - Jeanfaymas
September 14th - Sinder
September 16th - Miyune
September 17th - Alfhilde

>Official /lig/ booru
https://booru.plus/+largeindiesglobal

>OC material for the OP
https://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw

>Ducks
https://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed)

Other useful threads:
>>>/vt//wvt/
>>>/vt//asp/
>>>/vt//corpo/
>>>/vt//indie/
>>>/vt//vrt/
>>>/vt//vsj+/
>>>/vt//swarm/

Previous Thread: >>57841263

>> No.57851255
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I love my wife

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https://www.twitch.tv/girl_dm_

wife_dm_ online!

>> No.57851274

peepeepoopoo

>> No.57851288
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Taking a bath with liggers

>> No.57851299
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I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!

>> No.57851310

I Love Lucy

>> No.57851328
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I love my wife! Her loli voice is so cute, you can hear how much she's practiced it!

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Good evening lig I love my oshi!

>> No.57851385
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Orcat <3

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IN 21 HOURS it's Lyra's birthday, show your appreciation for her by making a tile for her birthday card! Tiles must be SFW and have dimensions that are a multiple of 200 (i.e. 200x200, 400x400, 200x400)

Some things Lyra likes for inspiration:
>Art, Lyra is an artist herself and appreciates all pieces of fanart she receives. Any effort made to for an art piece will be appreciated.
>Horror games, from the AAA horror games to the cheap indies ones, Lyra plays them all.
>Moths, as a vampire moth herself Lyra is an appreciator of all things moth related.
>Her Maggotchamps, Lyra is a like a tsundere to her maggotchamps, she threatens to suck us dry of our blood but she loves us really.
>Her cat Sumbee, archery, brie cheese, fantasy stuff, margaritas and she recently started doing dance classes too.

References to her model can be found here: https://files.catbox.moe/7m0h4s.jpeg

The deadline for her card is September 6th at 12PM PST/ 3PM PST (4 hours before she goes live)

>> No.57851403

>nekrolina watching the video about the guy who killed his family because of an e-whore
Huh, I wonder how her Oilers feel right now

>> No.57851421
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Love my wolf wife

>> No.57851464

>>57851403
Inspired maybe?

>> No.57851590

>>57851421
Sleepy Silver my beloved...

>> No.57851598

DM feels like she has the social aptitude of an autist sometimes.
I wonder how often she has melties post-stream.

>> No.57851604

i hate prince for sync banning me from every channel he's a mod in

>> No.57851618
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57851618

Here I stand in this room
Caged and trapped inside
Seems I'm damned to live a lie
Unaware of what's outside
Should I care
For what's left me behind

And I stare at lights that makes me blind
Internally there's nothing left for me to be
I'm here alone and isolated

>> No.57851625
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57851625

saru tomorrow
gn lig

>> No.57851640

Been busy with IRL stuff for the past 3-4 months, can I get a quick update on how Saru is doing?

>> No.57851648
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>>57851590

>> No.57851657

why did everyone I watch just decide to stream all at the same time today
now I have nothing to watch

>> No.57851668

>>57851604
what did you do to get banned in the first place?

>> No.57851681

>>57851604
What and why

>> No.57851703
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snuffy

>> No.57851712

>>57851625
gunite frogbro
>>57851657
give juni a chance

>> No.57851727

>>57851640
Lazy bitch

>> No.57851726

>>57851625
Gn frogbro

>> No.57851730
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>>57851625
gn frogbro

>> No.57851754

>>57851703
she should stream like that more often

>> No.57851762
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>>57851668
i very drunkenly sent harassing twitter dms asking how mari's pussy feels

>> No.57851780
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>>57851703

>> No.57851784

wow you guys really like to shit on DM for no reason at all

>> No.57851794

>>57851640
>Nothing happened except for a hard capped subathon at 7 days last month where she played Dark and Darker alone for 4 of them and only did one of her stream ideas (french teaching), frogs will ocassionally now post teacher Sareui images from the stream

>> No.57851816
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>>57851762
I want to bonk you

>> No.57851819

>>57851762
get fucked retard

>> No.57851824
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I miss feemsh

>> No.57851842

>>57851640
you should check the sabaton vods there were some fun moments

>> No.57851850

>>57851784
>you guys
it's one guy

>> No.57851852
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57851852

womp womp

>> No.57851862

gega is gettting 10 times more discussion in vsj than she ever did in lig
pink vago buff is real

>> No.57851863

>>57851784
killing 3d and making no attempt to revive it is enough reason

>> No.57851869
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>>57851762
You need to upgrade your rizz stat she clearly would be into it

>> No.57851891

>>57851794
Don't forget that she took off a week to prepare and then said that she didn't prepare anything

>> No.57851908

can any oldfags tell me what /lig/ was like in august? it must’ve been something else…

>> No.57851911

>>57851762
honestly kinda deserved ligga can't defend you on this one

>> No.57851923

(You) should submit an instrumental song for DM's next cover.

>> No.57851933

>>57851604
literally just make a new account

>> No.57851973

>>57851816
I know I was retarded and become somewhat of an antagonist when I've been drinking too much. Although I'm still an alcoholic I have improved my behavior and find it disappointing that prince automatically denies all unban requests over a year later

>> No.57851972
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>https://twitter.com/Trickywii/status/1699172183853965791
wake up babe, new Tricky hiatus

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>>57851862
that has literally always been the case

>> No.57852007

filian raped by elephants stream when?

>> No.57852039

>>57851972
Woman moment

>> No.57852040

>>57851995
>>57851862
Tabs

>> No.57852046

handome boy's mic is so low

>> No.57852048

>>57851973
>I have improved my behavior
nope

>> No.57852066

>>57851972
>irl emergencies
being at the beck and call of bad man as his sex slave finally wearing her down huh

>> No.57852084

>>57851972
september is bad man sex month

>> No.57852093

>>57851862
There was literally nothing to talk about with her besides dirt and being Zen's pet.

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>>57851972
>I announced my hiatus then realized I need to shill my plushie more

>> No.57852107

>>57852040
glunk is /lig/. geega out tho

>> No.57852115

>>57851972
>announce hiatus without thinking twice
>realize you have merch coming out
>haha hey guys wait I'm actually going to stream this week

>> No.57852124

>>57851862
>>57851721
Where the fuck was this guy before we missed out on gay sex

>> No.57852133 [DELETED] 

>>57851850
you all love to talk about her like she's a horrible megacunt who insults her viewers every stream and paint a really negative picture of her and it's honestly really unwarranted
>>57851863
shut up

>> No.57852160

>>57851972
women like this would have been locked in an asylum with the key thrown away 60 years ago

>> No.57852170

>>57852133
maybe she should be nicer and not unpleasant to listen to.

>> No.57852187

Juni is a podcast white woman

>> No.57852190

>>57851972
How nice of a time will it be if she's forcing herself to stream? Get ready for another traumadump I guess

>>57852095
It's already funded to be fair

>> No.57852204

>>57851972
Women like this should be locked up on my bed

>> No.57852208

>>57852133
kek, this has to be her posting

>> No.57852227

>>57852107
fuck off dude seriously

>> No.57852236

>>57851972
Does tricky have a day job too?

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*crunch crunch crunc*

>> No.57852265

>>57852187
>podcast white woman
Whats a podcast colour woman?

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>>57852242
>crunc

>> No.57852267

>>57852133
Focus on stream, DMchama.

>> No.57852269

>>57852187
Every time someone talks about Juniper it's literally just that she's a basic white bitch
>Moth fuckers want to be eaten by a tall white woman
Is that all you fucks want????

>> No.57852277

>>57852133
stop having a meltie at us DM when it's your chat being mentally retarded that's the problem. Never give twitch chat options.

>> No.57852289

>>57852208
she's streaming

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>>57852133
Please take your meds dm

>> No.57852302

>>57852095
>>57852115
Realizing she should advertise her merch is one of the more well thought out descisions I've seen her make. I don't really watch her, so all I hear about is her erratic behavior about hiatuses and past traumas and bad men

>> No.57852315

>>57852265
>>57852242

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>>57852266
tfw spelling mistake

>> No.57852360

>>57852133
Sometimes I wonder if posts like these are really the chuuba in question

>> No.57852363

>>57852269
Yes

>> No.57852368

>>57852269
>Moth fuckers want to be eaten by a tall white woman
>Is that all you fucks want????
Not me.

>> No.57852369

>>57852289
>no one has ever typed 2 sentences in a different window while streaming before.

>> No.57852371

>>57852242
>>57852324
who

>> No.57852385

>>57851403
based lina

>> No.57852417

Something I just remembered. filian said she doesn't like poutine and calls it mid. I'm not even Canadian and that stuff is good.

filian, please, I know you have shit taste please just stop.

>> No.57852424

>>57852133
>[Deleted]
sussy

>> No.57852426

Handsome boy needs to stream a wee bit later than her new time slot

>> No.57852434

>Deleted after being called out
Well, thats sus.

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>>57852289
Of course, a streamer would never check in on this thread or post during a stream. That'd be silly.

>> No.57852461

>>57852369
i'm sure she has better things to do mid stream than squabble with antis on 4channel

>> No.57852490

I like juni because her acted personality is unnerving.

>> No.57852496

>>57852449
meat what do you want from me

>> No.57852504

>>57852461
>deleted
Apparently not kek

>> No.57852516

geega sold her soul for an extra 2k viewers fucking lmfao

>> No.57852540

>>57852516
tabs

>> No.57852557

>>57852516
Give it some time. We will find out the true viewer count. It's steadily declining and there's no bottom yet.

>> No.57852565

>>57852516
>sold her soul
she signed a probably year long contract its not that dramatic

>> No.57852572

>>57852516
i didn't know it was possible to be a brand warrior for a lack of a brand

>> No.57852575 [DELETED] 

i dont know where else to share this i just think its really funny that mainstream japanese hip hop is emulating cali west coast low rider shit and it actually goes so hard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HamGjf0DnhQ

>> No.57852604

Juni might finish Rain World today at the pace she's going

>> No.57852620

>>57852557
I want to say it'll settle between 2 and 2.5k

>> No.57852621

>>57852575
Sir, this is /lig/

>> No.57852636

>>57852575
return to brapper thread

>> No.57852662

Bao should sit on my face.

>> No.57852664

>>57852621
just enjoy the music. do you have anything better to do?

>> No.57852678

>>57852620
Back to her regular sized audience established while she was still indie. Man, what a kick to the head that would be?

>> No.57852680

>>57851972
tricky gives off the vibes of the most mentally unstable chuuba I've seen

>> No.57852687

>>57852662
fat Bao should sit on my face

>> No.57852689

>>57852516
>sold her soul
literally nothing changes you overdramatic retard

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>>57852575
This goes very hard I like it

>> No.57852695

>>57852664
there is an entire board for music

>> No.57852703
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>>57852621
I'm inclined to believe that /lig/ is the only thing that some people have going on in their lives

>> No.57852706
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just a little bug

>> No.57852726

>>57852703
speaking from experience

>> No.57852731

>>57852662
this but with an extra h

>> No.57852733

>>57851972
sounds like she should stop being an indie and join something to offload work to

>> No.57852744

>>57852695
/mu/ was actually my home board a decade ago, it's complete trash now

>> No.57852750

>>57852706
She looks so lost

>> No.57852771

>>57852744
Very true

>> No.57852770

>>57852731
who's Boah?

>> No.57852781

>>57852706
juniper thinly veiling her disgusting horse fetish

>> No.57852783

>>57852461
There was some ancient drama with big japanese indie shittalking other vtubers and arguing with antis in some jp version of 4ch but not 5ch after the IPs got leaked. So I have no doubt in western indies coming here to shittalk or vent.

>> No.57852800

>>57852706
I love it! Glad she switched to it. Also:
>fluffy titties

>> No.57852844

>>57852696
I'm glad you enjoy it lucyposter. I shitpost on you a lot but really I think we could be friends

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God I really want to cum inside Shyrei (Squchan)

>> No.57852871

>>57852800
Her best model in a very long time

>> No.57852879

>>57852726
Rude! I have things

>> No.57852905

>>57852575
Thread music was back here >>57848430
Join him.

>> No.57852904

>>57852771
i miss the sharethreads. /mu/ is seriously so dead and filled with the worst kind of zoomers nowadays. same with rateyourmusic. the 'music community' has just gone to shit the past few years

>> No.57852919

>>57852664
I am. I was just pulling your leg

>> No.57852920

>>57852851
When are you pressing the start streaming button on OBS your piece of fuck meat

>> No.57852921

Juni is a confirmed cuck...

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>> No.57852956

>>57852744
it feels like a lot of the media focused boards just got significantly worse in the last 10 years. I can't stomach looking a /v/ and that used to be my home board

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>>57852844

>> No.57852985

>>57852689
corpo apologist

>> No.57853027

>>57852956
maybe you grew up

>> No.57853029

>>57852956
yea the election did irreparable damage. i miss the comfy sharethreads on /mu/ around 2012

>> No.57853060

>>57852871
If she fixes the the rigging, it'll be my new favorite

>> No.57853081

Is Vei dying and if yes from what

>> No.57853101
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Bleh

>> No.57853112

>>57852937
https://files.catbox.moe/xevomb.mp4

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Tanya's having a good time. This is nice. She's been looking forward to this game.

>> No.57853114

>>57853081
Cock poisoning

>> No.57853133

>>57853029
how long will the 2016 election be blamed for the continuous global loss of intelligence

>> No.57853161

>>57853027
Whenever 5 KPOP threadss all at bump limit in the catalog became the norm is when /mu/ died

You can tell a lot about a boards quality by if it has an active KPOP (oggling korean slave women) thread

>> No.57853170

>if you spend your parents money on me I'll ne sad
Wow, what a cop-out. I like vesper's take on this. She'll ban you if you overspend and she finds out

>> No.57853189

>>57852575
check out Dos Monos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_6jXNXuj1I

>> No.57853196

>>57853133
For another 40-50 years I reckon

>> No.57853210

>>57853133
it's not a matter of losing intelligence, of course 4chan has always been retarded, it's the certain type of political retardation that just sours everything

>> No.57853212

>>57853170
lina grew up with a silver spoon pls understand

>> No.57853217

>>57853112
Is it bad that I got aroused by this?

>> No.57853248

>>57853101
Need that going into my urethra

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>>57852706

>> No.57853274

>>57853210
I just mean people are naturally becoming more retarded and it's still being used as a scapegoat

>> No.57853292

>>57853189
this is fucking great

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Did I miss DM posting /here/ again?

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Sex with Jets while she wears her silly hat.

>> No.57853383 [DELETED] 

this is my favorite jrap song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFCs-EeodMc

>> No.57853399

>>57853347
just your average melty_dm

>> No.57853410

>>57853347
hi dm

>> No.57853417

>>57853274
People have always been this stupid, the problem is social media has convinced everyone they and their shitty matter when they don't and the current political/social climate has made it to were people feel like you have to hear their dumb as fuck beliefs.

>> No.57853464

>>57853347
what do you mean again

>> No.57853465

>>57853347
>hey look ma I larped as a chuuba and deleted my post a minute afterwards again, did anyone see it
no one's falling for it

>> No.57853482

>>57853217
No, kissing is an expression of love
https://files.catbox.moe/jw957s.mp4

>> No.57853485
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>>57851648
fresh sleepy silver for you silverposter

>> No.57853498

>>57853465
now this is DM

>> No.57853533

>>57853482
an expression of my tongue in their throat copying up top what I do down low (with my penis) *dabs*

>> No.57853536

>>57852781
After guzzling literal gallons of horse semen, she has taken on some of their horse traits.

>> No.57853617
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New Glunk art

>> No.57853653

>>57853133
We used to blame everything on summerfags, year round though. I think 2016, and the destruction of alternative chans makes more sense.

>> No.57853662

>>57853617
MAH NIGGA GLUNK! Also nice sideboob

>> No.57853694

>>57853617
Those horns are awfully lick-able

>> No.57853719
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>> No.57853731
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>>57853485
wew, thank you!

>> No.57853742

>>57853417
so true. i hate this common idea that people are becoming dumber. it's worse, people are becoming smarter in insane distortions of reality

>> No.57853773

>>57853617
I love colored mouths and pussy and nipples

>> No.57853818
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57853818

/lig/ is like one of the few places on this site I actually hanging out at and posting in. it feels vintaged, a throw back to the days where this site was somewhere you could just chill at. Sure we got problems and resident problem children, but it's typically not anything that isn't manageable and most of you are great liggas to watch streams and crack jokes with.

>> No.57853834

Not to be a numberfag, but how does vedal pull such high numbers?
Ive mostly just watched clips so i don’t know too much about his streams or neuro’s workings

>> No.57853847
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>>57852575

>> No.57853868

>>57852956
Yeah, I get you. /a/ is dead as far as I'm concerned.

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>>57851727
>>57851794
>>57851891
>>57851842

I see. Here's hoping she can get on a good mood again, she's great when she's into it

>> No.57853880

>>57853834
No other streamer offers the same experience.

>> No.57854031
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>>57853834
She can be very entertaining. Her banter with the turtle is actually funny and her collab are interesting to watch. She also has followers who don't normally watch vtubers

>> No.57854037

>>57853834
i've been sowing the seeds of neuro's basilisk and most people are taking her side

>> No.57854093

>>57853818
/lig/ has become my main, even topped my other nai which is a general on /vg/

>> No.57854107
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>>57853485
Okay so I know that hands are no AI gen's strong spot but I was granted a vision, would it be possible to do have a Silvervale genned doing the blowjob hand gesture? (Also with black lipstick while wearing sporty attire, leggings, sports bra etc)

>> No.57854133

>>57853818
Yeah. I left 4chan for 5 years and only post in /lig/ now

>> No.57854162

>>57853834
It is a complete mystery to me why so many people watch this shitty chatbot and the faggot turtle.

>> No.57854175

DM raided froggy, she's redeemed

>> No.57854203

>>57853818
love /lig/

>> No.57854215
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57854215

I LOVE VEENER

>> No.57854229

>>57854162
Great answer you faggot

>> No.57854238

thoughts on Juni's current model?

>> No.57854255
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>>57854175
Froggy...

>> No.57854269

>>57854175
dm should have raided the 3d model store

>> No.57854288

>>57854229
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

>> No.57854297

>>57854238
The one she's using right now? I think I like it the most out of all of them

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>>57854238
white juni models are peak

>> No.57854321
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>>57853818
Hell yeah bro, it's always nice hanging out with all of (You) and shooting the shit

>> No.57854340

>>57854238
It's incredibly creepy

>> No.57854346

a couple weeks or so ago mari said she was la la landpilled and i watched the film, it's amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTWqwSNQCcg

>> No.57854374

>>57854238
finally a good model.

>> No.57854400

>>57854269
dm should raid her thumbs into your fucking eyes shitheel

>> No.57854421

>>57854400
calm down DM

>> No.57854476
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>>57853617
Makes me happy she ended up friends with Grimmi

>> No.57854504

Why are streamers so menhera when they get payed to play video games for a couple of hours a few days a week?

>> No.57854505

>>57854317
Those extra leg thingy are perfect for leglock

>> No.57854534
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>>57854175
F-Froggy...

>> No.57854550

>>57854504
daddy didn't love them enough

>> No.57854551
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>>57853081
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298190029514080256/1148705752253472900/SPOILER_image.png
she got bad boo-boo

>> No.57854576

>>57854551
Ew! Who?

>> No.57854579

>>57854421
stop calling me DM

>> No.57854611

>>57854551
Is that space aids or some shit

>> No.57854616
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I MISS HER

>> No.57854628

>>57854579
who else would seethe about the 3d so much

>> No.57854645

>>57854551
looks like a scrape

>> No.57854651

>>57854504
okay think of how retarded the average twitch chatter is. Now thing about having to deal with a room of 1-2k of those every day that you work, and then when you aren't working, they show up in your hang out spots like discord to continue the exact same shit and in some cases like DM, times it by 3-4 years.

>> No.57854654

>>57854611
skin maggots

>> No.57854661

>>57854576
Uuuh guess I'm retarded. How did vei get hurt?

>> No.57854675

>>57854504
They're women

>> No.57854693

>>57854476
Same, it's always nice seeing /lig/gers hanging out with each other and having fun. I imagine it was quite cathartic for her to be able to gush about Metal Gear with Mimi too

>> No.57854703

>>57854661
she fell rollerskating at 2am

>> No.57854722

>>57854579
ok DM

>> No.57854728
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57854728

Pink cat live
https://www.twitch.tv/nyanners

>> No.57854762

>>57854728
I have never watched pink cat.

>> No.57854765 [SPOILER] 
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>>57854616
is she... you know...

>> No.57854767
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>>57853818

>> No.57854808

>>57854762
Start here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bHimOJb-Xw

>> No.57854845

>>57854703
Must've been high, drunk or both. Why else would she be rollerskating at 2am?

>> No.57854853
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>>57854728
HAHAHAHAHA finally

>> No.57854886

>>57854808
yep, *sipppppp* It's 2002 again. desu desu desu desu desu

>> No.57854901
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>>57854762
There's a first time for everything. Today is horror games.

>> No.57854978
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>>57854808
Crazy to think that we, the gatitas, are already 30

>> No.57854990

>>57854886
Nigga she was released by the CIA back in 2011

>> No.57855042

>>57854808
You made me remember the 2012 /v/Gas. Fuck you

>> No.57855053

>>57854255
>>57854534
Why you two don't raid Froggy?

>> No.57855059

i bet juni farts really loud

>> No.57855066
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57855066

>>57854978
Sex in the 69 position

>> No.57855149

>>57853818
I unironically made a a twitch account and started watching twitch chuubas because /lig/ is a nice thread

>> No.57855150

>>57855059
she's absolutely the girl that SHITS

>> No.57855159

>>57855059
Who ligger had the loudest farts

>> No.57855186

>>57855159
Oli

>> No.57855218

>>57854616
it's ok, tomorrow oli will tell us stories about nude couples massages with her friend

>> No.57855255

>>57855159
lucy seems like the kind of girl that would openly fart really loud when you get to know her

>> No.57855260

>>57854675
I don't believe you

>> No.57855279

>>57855159
Grimmi. Big badonka = big BRAPS.

>> No.57855288

>>57855159
Filian after four laxative gummies
have there even been any life signs from her or did her soul leave her body the wrong way

>> No.57855324

>>57855159
during the recent VRChat collab, Grape said that she once heard herself fart over someone else's mic

>> No.57855331
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57855331

It's hard to explain but Sleepy reminds me of Alice, but more American.

>> No.57855358

>>57855288
She's occupied with trying to stuff her lower intestine back in

>> No.57855407

>>57855159
any girl that's fat.

>> No.57855426
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57855426

Nyan is off her meds. (real)

>> No.57855427

>>57855331
Whats a private military company vtuber?

>> No.57855445

>>57855324
Grape sounded extremely proud of it too.

>> No.57855470 [DELETED] 

My dad commented on my drinking and said he wishes I would quit. But I just can't stop alcoholism. ligger for that feel?

>> No.57855510

>>57854616
Why does Olivia has many Arts and Crafters captured?

>> No.57855546

>>57855331
Alice is so American that she's actually Finnish, but nobody would know if she didn't tell them

>> No.57855551

>>57855427
She's on Wagner's payroll but otherwise nothing different.

>> No.57855575

>>57855470
anon we aren't AA, we can't help you

>> No.57855585
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57855585

Sinder started an Instagram account. She also removed Tashi's Twitter and Patreon links from the Tashi Carrd, and the Tashi link in her Sinder carrd now links directly to the Tashi YouTube account instead of to the Tashi carrd
https://www.instagram.com/sindervtuber/
https://sinder.carrd.co/
https://tashimp3.carrd.co/

>> No.57855596
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>> No.57855608

>>57855427
She gets to do all the fun stuff that government troops would get in trouble for.

>> No.57855664

>>57854238
Interesting and unique design, but also feels slightly underbaked.

>> No.57855672

>>57855575
This mangs has been posting about their alcoholism for literaly 11 hours

>> No.57855692
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>>57855218
Thinking about noodle Oli.

>> No.57855739

>>57855288
Was that a good stream? I was busy yesterday.

>> No.57855742
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57855742

>>57854107
attempted. resorted to using a control net. would need a different model or a lora made specifically for this to get it working on its own.

>> No.57855745
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>>57855510
She uses it as her chat mascot

>> No.57855762

>>57854901
Why is her intro so long?
-1 point to pink cat.

>> No.57855766

If I was a streamer I'd avoid Tricky like the plague. She seems the mentally ill sort that would try to cancel you because you called her a dork or some shit. Bitch would try to spin it like you abuse her or some shit.

>> No.57855792

>>57855745
since when

>> No.57855807

>>57855742
This is great because you didn't make her a BBW for once

>> No.57855815

>>57855470
Dude I know you need to talk about this somewhere and I'm very sorry that you're going through this, but we can't help you apart from telling you to get therapy. There's no other way

>> No.57855832

Lucy posted a clip
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYKT34sOUPQ

>> No.57855835

>>57855742
What did she mean by this gesture?

>> No.57855837

I prefer RTX Nyanners because she has an autistic looking face and socially awkward mannerisms with cute tiny tits.

>> No.57855858

>>57855792
Probably like 18 months ago

>> No.57855865

>>57855807
>wants things
>does not request them
many such cases

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57855920

>>57855807
>not wanting BBW Silver

>> No.57855955

>>57855837
I like her current look because she's a hag

>> No.57855956

Jupi on stream lads

>> No.57855967
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57855967

>>57855742
>4 fingers
>Thumb
>Black lipstick
Goth babes win again thank you 1000 times

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>>57855762
Intro is over now

>> No.57855997

>>57855956
Are you making up liggers again?

>> No.57856000

>>57855739
concernfags got annoying, and filian got more and more subdued as the laxatives kicked in
still, smacker/10 stream

>> No.57856025

>>57855997
anon please it's the better Juni the one that actually likes her chat

>> No.57856039
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>>57855920
Post the full version I must add her to my collection

>> No.57856064

>>57855996
Why is Ai Nyan so cute!?

>> No.57856065

>>57855766
She gives me some major bpd vibes

>> No.57856072

>>57856000
I'm sure there were armchair doctors telling her it was unsafe as if she hasn't done shit like backflip while blindfolded by her VR headset

>> No.57856079

lmao people get upset every time jupi goes away

>> No.57856083

>>57855331
Idk much about Alice but I feel like Sleepy puts a lot of effort into things that don't result in growth. Like she visually modifies her model to have different themed outfits for individual games (ex. zelda, pikmin, yoshi)

>> No.57856091

Jupi gone UUUUUU

>> No.57856111

>>57856065
BPD often stems from childhood neglect, so it fits

>> No.57856115

i should probably get over it at this point but i am really annoyed that i STILL have to hear nyanners's fucking name in 2023

>> No.57856121
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>>57856064
Because she's innocent and timeless

>> No.57856120
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57856120

>>57854317
Looks like the real Juni flash-banged her Uber delivery driver. Lucky Bastard.
https://youtu.be/z4bFfq61D-0?t=2823

>> No.57856142

>>57855766
>would try to cancel you
Nah, she'd spaz, have a meltdown and disappear for a while.

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>>57855920
Anime girls should not be obese, America has gone too far this time. I'm calling up the Japanese and Al Qaeda for the collab of the century.

>> No.57856161

>>57856079
Jupi is objectively better

>> No.57856190
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>>57856039
here you go
I have 125 AI Silvers made by AI Anon and that's just counting normal ones since I don't save futa ones

>> No.57856209

>>57855585
whore erasure, shamfur dispray

>> No.57856212

>>57856121
>ai nyanners will be with us long after the original nyanners is gone
>fans will have no choice but to resort to ai cloning to get their oshis back when they all inevitably graduate forever
>in the future there will be an archive of every single chuuba in ai form

>> No.57856229

>>57855766
Is this something that's happened before or are you, like, totally going off her harsh vibes and problematic aura, man?

>> No.57856234

>>57855766
I wonder if there are vtubers that all the other vtubers talk about like this and avoid

>> No.57856283

>>57856150
SEXXXXX

>> No.57856300

>>57856190
Annoyed bitches my cock thanks my guy

>> No.57856326

>>57856190
>I don't save futa ones
Gay

>> No.57856342

Lucy said she'd post a picture of a cake she made, and then she didn't

>> No.57856369

>>57855815
this sounds like redditor shit. i've decided to drink myself to death

>> No.57856380
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>>57856342

>> No.57856413

>>57856380
pink cat ate the special thing

>> No.57856456

>>57856369
That's the spirit. Tell your dad to share a pint

>> No.57856476

>>57856380
full of soup

>> No.57856477

>>57856369
>Being so upset about another website you decide suicide
I mean some people choose to live like this

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>>57856380

>> No.57856568
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>>57854728
her 3d model is cute

>> No.57856574

>>57856456
it's in my blood. the addiction gene is strong in my family. alcohol meth and pills. at least i got off the opiates and only drink and smoke weed now

>> No.57856594
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https://streamable.com/mm82jb
womp womp

>> No.57856619

>>57856369
OK have fun with Wernicke-Korsakow-Syndrom and toxic polyneuropathy you retard

>> No.57856638

>>57856574
Just get high on your oshi, you don't need drugs

>> No.57856668
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clauvio

>> No.57856667

DID FILIAN SURVIVE

>> No.57856718

>>57856484
https://youtu.be/xNJKvRXZMf8?t=6528
NEVER FORGET

>> No.57856743

>>57856619
look at poindexter here with his fancy words, you get those at college? you a college boy?

>> No.57856753

>>57856668
long live the chairman

>> No.57856760

>>57856574
you should get addicted to pussy instead

>> No.57856810

>>57856594
Quick, someone post that gif of Tom Hardy in Venom

>> No.57856815

>>57856667
No.
>>57856760
I disagree, anon could become a rapist.

>> No.57856823

>>57856568
Don’t fall for it. There’s an aging woman behind that 3D eternal hottie

>> No.57856844

>>57856760
nta but how to get some ligger pussy?

>> No.57856853

if clauvio says the word taiwan her house will be surgically erased by hypersonic chinese cruise missiles

and no one will even care, it'll just be assumed that her neighbors' meth labs blew up

>> No.57856875
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Bug time. I think she's planning to play retro-styled horror or something.
>https://www.twitch.tv/naiyospede

>> No.57856906

>>57856875
Yay

>> No.57856922

>>57856844
Start with one pussy and put 50% annually into savings 20% into bonds and use the remaining 30% for living expenses

>> No.57856943

>>57856743
No I just have been to rehab not for alcohol

>> No.57856976

>>57856875
sped

>> No.57857015

>>57856875
sped

>> No.57857033

JUNI HATES RAINWORLD

>> No.57857035
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57857035

I miss her already.
Hope she recovers. It hurts to hear her wince in pain from her body messing up. At least she had a fun time with the game.

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57857045

>>57854238
I would enjoy staring deep into her soulfull eyes as we discuss her Peoples plan's for my species followed by an intense session of egg-fertilization.

>> No.57857063
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Gn /lig/. I hope you have fun watching our liggers

>> No.57857076

>>57857045
vagina library

>> No.57857081

>>57857045
kill yourself

>> No.57857101

>>57856922
W-what?

>> No.57857103

>>57857063
anny you've been getting boned by vedal for a whole month already please come back

>> No.57857107

What the fuck is a blinker hit

>> No.57857115

>>57857045
this nigga masturbating over egg clutches while juniper sits there doing nothing lol

>> No.57857136

Juni stalls for 20-30 seconds almost every screen and then wonders why she can't make it to the next shelter before rainfall

>> No.57857162

>>57857115
God I wish that were me

>> No.57857172

>>57857076
I'm so glad she's real.
>>57856120

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>>57856976
>>57857015

>> No.57857236

>>57857224
spedge

>> No.57857248

>>57857107
Vape

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>>57857162
Imagine the Jerk-off encouragement.

>> No.57857281

>>57857107
2 base play in the 8th

>> No.57857332

>>57857248
tob and mint did blinker hits for each other. i didnt know what it meant

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aris is online.

>> No.57857350

JuniI know what you mean but that sounds ableist lmao. What you're saying is if you're a mute you're not a person because you can't speak a proper spoken language.

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>>57856667
last recorded audio of filian's stream (reckson pov)
https://files.catbox.moe/ydjug8.mp3

>> No.57857422

>>57856922
who the fuck is able to put able to put away/invest 70% of their annual earnings.

>> No.57857451

Juni is really not the best with wording things properly

>> No.57857453

>>57857422
They live in either the third world or 1982.

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>>57857367

>> No.57857462

>>57857350
i'm pretty sure most mutes can understand and communicate english is other ways

>> No.57857490

>>57857422
I don’t waste my money on boob mousepads

>> No.57857515

>>57856823
i cant fall for anyone

>> No.57857528

>>57857367
when are you gonna stop with this shit? Noone wants to hear your shitty attentionwhore recordings

>> No.57857531

>>57857257
kill yourself

>> No.57857564

>>57857462
I know and she didn't mean it in that sense but she worded it in a way that sounded like if you don't speak then you're not truly human which I found funny. She's a bit silly with how she explains things

>> No.57857589

>>57857515
I have a wife too she’d be so mad if she caught me

>> No.57857623

What does the internal monolog of a mute deaf sound like?

>> No.57857665

>>57857350
>>57857462
Roflgroomer should have some amusing anecdotes on that.

>> No.57857668

>>57857623
what's it like to be a batatvideogames

>> No.57857685

>>57857623
nothing. they dont think in sound.

>> No.57857697

>>57857665
Stop fucking bringing up this faggot every thread you fucking demented retard

>> No.57857716

>>57857623
https://youtu.be/xmwT4No1TIc?t=11

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>>57857422
me.

want me to walk you through it?

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>>57857668
Where's bat? Why no live?

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love me some cooking streams

>> No.57857807
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Nyan watching peak

>> No.57857812

>>57857769
not a vtuber

>> No.57857867

>>57857812
incorrect

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>>57857697
Get isekaid Cuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oHkxmlWezg

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>>57857807
What am I witnessing?

>> No.57857968
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>>57857769
I will fuck Nyaru's tits.

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>>57857968

>> No.57858012

>>57857877
kill yourself

>> No.57858047

>>57857910
Good content

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>>57857422
>>57857718
Give her a month

>> No.57858072

>>57856594
what the fuck is this atrocity of a model

>> No.57858085
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>>57858047
I see

>> No.57858092

>>57857807
>Life of Luxury
I'm there

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>>57858072
a cute moth!

>> No.57858203

>>57858092
i thought they got fucked by their agency and couldnt do more

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Will the Zoomer defeat Indonesia?

Pls Filian I just want to be able to troll /#/ again.

>> No.57858250

>>57858223
faggot

>> No.57858254

>>57858223
Easily

>> No.57858260

>>57858203
I only glanced at the drama but I think they forced the company to pay them since they threatened to delete everything

>> No.57858261

the world will become a better place the day filian dies

>> No.57858292

Diablery


>>57858278
>>57858278
>>57858278
>>57858278

>> No.57858297

>>57858261
Filian is cute. Die painfully.

>> No.57858302

THE BREAD

>> No.57858328

>>57858292
vandalized

>> No.57858334

>>57858292
vandalized, someone make another

>> No.57858351

>>57858328
>>57858334
sure
>>57858339
>>57858339
>>57858339

>> No.57858357

>>57858292
kill yourself

>> No.57858375

>>57857107
FADEDTHANAHOE
FADEDTHANAHOE
FADEDTHANAHOE
FADEDTHANAHOE

>> No.57859224

>>57858012
You know you won't be missed much at all when you die. In fact, people will have the space to realize how much of a drain you were.

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