/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

You know exactly what it is. Why even bother shitting up the already shitty catalogue with this?

>>57757859
I don’t though. Shiori’s been nothing but cute. Pl shit doesn’t matter but they’re so bold about posting it at every turn.

>>57757775
Why do certain kids get bullied while others don't? It's because she presents an easier target than the alternatives. He debut statement, autism and strange jokes got people to check out her PL and the moment they saw their favorite trigger words there was no going back.
Shiori is a earnest cinnamon roll who you'd think nobody would have reason to want to hurt, but that's exactly what makes her vulnerable to attack. Same reason you see so many Fauna bait threads.

>>57757775
She made it too easy.

>>57758612
>>57758672
Well they’re certainly not making a huge dent in either case.makes sense though I guess

>>57757775
She's just been laying on thick with the "I'm such a crazy goth gf teeheehee" shit and vtuber fans are gullible enough to play along regardless

>>57759394
My point is, dramaniggers are going to dramanigger no matter what. The only difference is who they set their sights on, and Shiori acted as a sort of lightning rod for Advent.

>>57757775
crazy chuuba attracts crazy fans. her most mentally schizo is literally her biggest fan at the same time

>>57757775
>PL
KYS nijifag, always the same shit

>>57757775
>Pl posting without shame
Why is this even written here as a bad thing? Pl posting was always within the rules.
It was always unicuck mods that got butthurt whenever you're mentioning
a PL that was open about having a bf as a vtuber like LemonLeaf or a PL that used to collab with males like Senzawa. These faggots started to enforce a rule that doesn't even exists.
Personally I think we should encourage PL posting as long as its not used for shitposting

>>57759909
Go to a thread Mumei and mention a certain name and get banned for "Real"

>>57759909
Because it always devolves into actual roommate posting and doxxfagging? You can share that shit on kiwi and your other sites dude . Hololive is literally about kayfabe I feel more than most agencies now. There’s a reason the dogs are so strong

>>57759909
Yeah, it certainly wasnt like this in the early days. I'm pretty sure janny is just deleting post but not a lot ban are issued when talking about roommate and pl. IRyS split openly talk about her roommate when she's streaming so it depends on the general really.

>>57760011
I've notice that if certain information paints them in a bad light, it will certainly get deleted. If it paints them in a good light then it will stay up.

In any case let’s not pretend 99% of pl posting the same shit over and over and over again by some anti schizo. Who spams it in every thread .

prob cause she's a mentally broken slut herself?
>840hcp

>>57760073
>Because it always devolves into actual roommate posting and doxxfagging?
That's why I said as long as it's not used for shitposting. Doxxposting is against the rules and should be banned
>Hololive is literally about kayfabe
Doesn't matter. PL discussion is not against the rules. If you're braindead to the point you think that PLposting and doxxposting are the same thing, go cry about it on Reddit.

>>57760490
Like clockwork
>>57760517
>>57760578
It’s always for shitposting. If any of the inbreds on this board could have a proper discussion involving pl’s I might agree with you.

>>57760834
so pl-posting is a no go if it paints them in a bad light?

>>57760490
pl posting is still more on topic than shit like gosling and blog posting tbqhwithyousempai, which is what makes up of most post in Shiori split unfortunately
I just want to have an honest discussion about her pl, but it's impossible due to shitposters and overly sensitive faggots. Maybe when things eventually mellow out

>>57760963
>bad light
I never said that.
if you want to constantly spam the board with the same shit you should be banned

>>57757775
I used to have her as my advent oshi but I saw how she turned her pre chat into a pay pig circle jerk and I became completely turned off. Still I wish her nothing but plenty of success.

I want to say bad things about this runt but I’ll get banned because the jannies are cucklites

PL posters are always arguing in bad faith, don't give them an inch.

>>57757775
>What makes her attract so many schizos?
not schizos, just troons and homo watcher waiting for her start the dick collabs now that the collab ban has been removed

>>57759909
it wasnt even like this a few years ago. absolute dregs are the only ones who apply for 0$/hr

>>57761576
Janny can't ban you if you don't break rules. Like obvious trolling and real life talk. They'll just delete your post

>>57761754
Exactly.
>>57761800
They can wait longer I guess.

Those eyes are like lighthouses in the bay of psycho. Bringing all the boats home to port.

I am 99% sure people she had a fight in the past are shitposting hard.
Then trolls caught wind and started doing it for the lulz

Because
>>57752250
>>57752318

>>57760974
People will defend this shit but as soon as someone mentions pl they start sperging out.

>>57760834
>It’s always for shitposting.
Not true, few times I would discuss something that PL said, like Shioris, in a very civil manner, until some white knight comes in and starts YOU SEA NIGGER AND A SISTER AND A HOLO ANTI KILL YOURSELF KILL YOURSELF YOU ARE LITERALLY WORSE THAN HITLER FOR DISCUSSING THAT typing with his greasy fat nigger hands.
Ofcourse when PL shit have something spicy it will attract some baits, just like her present persona if she says something spicy(respect my collabs/once you go black), it will attract just the same baits, with PL you can just have an excuse for seething at this baits instead of reporting them, or trying to debunk/btfo them.

>>57761890
Well they did because I called the novelites cucks, not even in their general and got a 3 day ban.

It’s obvious some of Jannies are cucklites

>>57762340
>because I called the novelites cucks
yes, because you were trolling

>>57762296
Ok You were definitely trying to incite some flame war

>>57762181
yep, at least there's no one trauma dumping and making the entire thread about himself right now. they'll justify it by saying because Shiori likes book and want you to do better so it's okay to blogpost and trauma dump.

>>57762502
Nah, It wasn't even her general, I don't discuss that type of stuff in generals, that are usually trying to be beacons of positivity for their vtubers, unless something happens on that present persona, even then I'll try to be nice about it.

>waah waah waah I can't troll
All I'm reading right now

>>57757775
I don't care

>>57762385
If calling a fanbase cucks is considered trolling now, then 80% of this board should get bans. Plus there is more than enough evidence in forms of PL stuff that will reinforce the argument that novelites are KEKS

>>57762875
You’re right this board should be purged honestly . Because half of it is post like yours

>>57763089
NTA, but why are you here then? I'll never understand nigger complaining non stop about something, just leave, when I get bored of some boards I just stop following them, just like I did with /tv/ and /pol/ long time ago

>>57763089
I second this nuke this board.

>>57761576
As if this is unique to Shiori. The jannies have just been way more on top of things since the disaster that was Council's debut. There are names you can say that get you insta banned in the context of certain other "unicorn friendly" members.

>>57763176
I actually engage in discussions of vtubers sometimes here. I just filter out KEK KEK XD le PL SHIT KEK usually. I’m just that bored enough right now to entertain it . But honestly if you guys want to invade the board even further and shit it up then yes. I rather it be dead.

>>57763197
Anon, you can get banned for racism, for shitting on SEA using certain words.
I've been banned for some other dumb stuff too few times, but I can't recall what it was exactly. Generally, if janny disagrees with your opinion, he can ban you because you used no-no word, which is used in 70% of posts on 4chan.

Her design is basically Goth Toga with a dye job, and that attracts a certain type.

>>57763399
So you are feeding into the shit you don't like, because you are bored? I mean, sure, you just helping accelerate the board by that logic, might as well start spamming cuck threads too, why not.

>>57763573
But she isn't really feels like yandere(this Toga girl is something like that right? I've never watched MHA) aside from model ofcourse.

>>57763663
Yea but not often.

>>57763573
Man, that remind me. I wasn't feeling last arc of BHA, but that Toga vs Ochaco part was actually very well done and actually touching. Too bad she's dead now.

>>57758612
Aside from the first wave of btvm posting about the respect my collabs statement it has nothing to do with her debut autism.
Sisters are the ones shitting up the catalog and generals with advent dox, they are seething at the loss of their homos and are desperately trying to bring the new girls down, I have never seen the doxsite so clearly bitter and revelling in this shit than now.

She’s here . Right now

>>57764009
>With an

>>57764009
She's the best.
She might attract shizos and antis, but this girl is really bringing something fresh to holo(EN). She's so weird, it's great.

They have penis on the mind, gomen.

>>57757775
Shitori fucked my dad, killed my mom and ate my dog so I hope she'd graduate from life (in minecraft) and make Advent the first flawless gen in vtube

>>57759909
>open about having a bf as a vtuber like LemonLeaf or a PL that used to collab with males like Senzawa
Wtf bros /vt/ said that they are prime cgdct. Did they lie to me..?

>>57764777
They are though, they don't mention that stuff, but aren't exactly lying. I don't mind LL possibly having someone, when she absolutely never mentions that kind of stuff. If she were gfe and going uwu I'm such a virgin, then It would be another case

>>57764929
And shiori does? When has she mentioned she was a loner virgin like you fags like to project . She’s weird and acts weird but that’s about it

>>57764777
Shit's fucking hilarious. More like Cucked Gentlemen Developing Coping Tendencies

>>57765046
What? I didn't shit on her for anything, I think she should have a chance regardless of what was in PL, even though it does sour whole GFE stuff. It isnt gonna be for me, but I won't hate her or dislike her, unless she cucks her viewers.

>>57765046
I don't think Anon implied this. But it's true that some people projected that on her for some reason.
But personally I feel like everything she said as her PL makes her current persona have even more weight.

>>57767952
It just confirms that she's the broken menhera that everyone wanted her to be.

>>57768209
Exactly if anything it shows that it's not just kayfabe but actually part of her personality. That's the kind of things that makes me think PL discussions matter

>>57757775
Bandwagon effect. She seemed the most vulnerable, a couple of schizos decided she’s the designated target, and others dogpiled on her. Even then, the other girls are slowly gaining their own schizos now too.

She had the most goslings, who are the easiest most sensitive people to target troll. It doesn't help that she did a terrible opsec job so now they are fully armed and you can see her split has gone down in speed.
Basically she made it easy, her fans made it easy.

>>57760963
Even if it’s positive on the surface, it’s just to get a foot in the door for the negative stuff, without fail.

>>57769599
Who the fuck cares if it's negative or positive. It's part of the PL's history and therefore part of the chuuba's career.
As long as it is a real fact, it's fair game.
Also we're not a fucking hugbox, negative things are allowed

>>57760345
Wrong I actually hot banned for the very same post about LL and Senzawa you were replying to.
I only stated informations that were publicly available through their PL. This wasn't against the rules in anyway but still got a 2 days ban. Like I said it's just pure unicuck behaviour.

>>57757775
Probably because she has a lot more established history with content creation and vtubing so there's more potential dramabait to use as ammunition. Even though she privated a lot of her shit soma have already been archived and antis can also just comb through her friend's tweets and channels

>>57764133
oh fuck she's a fucking singaporean. those retards over there switched "a" and "an".

>>57769849
Why is “not your hugbox” always the argument trotted out by people wanting to talk about offtopic shit? Do all the posts here talking about personal relationships not tell you that there’s no divide between the two?

>>57757775
why would you put a normie in restriction suit>

>>57769091
Her break made it go down in speed, has nothing to do with jakartans that just get ignored and reported every time.

>>57771873
I like how they’ve made a game of seeing how many posts get deleted in every round of purges.

>>57771873
>get ignored
I wish. Most of the past threads have been people vagueposting and schizos arguing with themselves.

>>57772217
>>57772024
That's the shitposter responding to itself and getting deleted.
The first time 19 got deleted, then the next time was 28, the most recent was also 28.

>>57772278
Yeah, the deleted is one guy, maybe two. But there are still live posts pointing to dead posts.

>>57771462
but she was talking about that stuff in her pl

>>57770269
I was discussing Luna roommate quite often, didn't get anything for it

>>57771462
>personal relationships
I have no idea what kind of imaginary posts you're seeing. But I'm going to assume it's about Shiori. If Moe made her video on her own talking about her personal relationships, it's PL talk. Simple as. So in that specific case there personal relationships are not separated of PL talk

>>57772024
Goddamn /vt/ is truly full of newfags and doesn't understand how a delete chain was.
The faggot is so fucking retarded for thinking every deleted post is by the same person, worst part is him thinking he's so smart for knowing how to use 4chanx. Janny deleted several of my post in that split but never once was I given a warning because janny might hate my post, but it didn't break any rule.

>>57757775
she has nijien twitch brainrot and I don't like her. she was most likely a nepo hire for tempus

>>57772516
I think Anon is just that kind of people that think these things should be ignored even if they were told by the vtuber herself.
Which is some kind of delusional way of thinking

>>57769091
I respect poor opsec by choice, it means girl has nothing to hide and you can see for yourself and choose if you want to continue watching her.

>>57772963
If you can pinpoint the exact timestamp where she talks about PL stuff as her current self, then sure, discuss away.

>>57773024
Why would that matter? MOE is a VTUBER. It's on topic no matter what Shiori says.
Also why do you want to act as if we don't know the 2 are linked? It's so retarded.
It's like saying "Ah Kson never talked about Coco, it's offtopic"

>>57773161
Then why can't anyone talk about a certain past?
She too, was a vtuber. Rules for thee and not for me is it?

>>57773024
Anon, she mentioned multiple times about her past 'archiving duties' already, even went on a 5 minutes tangent about it. She also openly greet her long time fan like Chino, or that Japanese guy and talked a shit tons about her friend group and all that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKdlTcOcNh8

>>57773353
Then, go ahead and talk about it? I already said feel free to discuss away when you pinpoint the stuff she's said.
Eventually if she ever talks about toxic relationships, that'll be fair game too. I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

>>57773316
Mods being overzealous about Senzawa is as equally retarded, Anon. Talking about her doesn't break any rules

>>57773416
He’s trying to enforce an artificial divide between “PL” and “roommate”, and pretending that inconsistent enforcement proves he’s right. Ultimately, a lot of what the girls did before Hololive has little to no separation from their personal lives that discussing any previous online persona will inevitably lead there.

>>57773743
I am trying to do what now? Please explain where you are coming from
I did try having actual discussion relating to her pl but all I get was anon calling me a raider and baiting.

>>57773883
Because you are.

>>57773499
Glad we agree on that part at least but once again it's a rules for thee and not for me situation with the meidos.

>>57773972
lol, like clockwork

>>57773883
From the me that lurks there during both prime time and dead hours.
The dead hours anons seem far more resistant to any form of discussion they deem as "irrelevant."
As another anon said, they've made a game out of counting how many get deleted.
Prime time though, all of them just seem to be commenting on her stream.
Maybe it's the way you're wording your topics? Well if you come out as a retard trying to bait people into talking about le hekkin' 4 people, then yeah, of course you'll get flagged as a raider.

>>57774261
Nah, I'd like to talk about that too but the thread is too paranoid to talk about it. I tried talking about her old LP, her friends and some ancient lore though, but never while she's streaming. That thread will tolerate someone blogging for the entire thread and drag the whole thread into it, but a mention of pl is considered baiting.

>>57773972
Let me explain this to you in case you’re actually new and not trying to start shit. There’s no such thing as “actual discussion related to her pl”, it’s just an excuse to start shit, either by the person who posted it or by schizos who see a golden opportunity created by that post.

>>57774579
Man, all I do is write stuff based on prompts that are given to me.
If it's not harmful I don't particularly care, maybe it was a timing issue and you happened to bring it up as the raid was on-going?

>>57774659
Meant for >>57774069

>>57772531
it's pretty easy to discuss rms without getting banned, but if you're doing it for the purpose of shitting on a chuuba or anti behavior, yeah you're going to get banned
the use of "unicuck" by that poster should make it obvious what his intentions are

>>57774261
NTA, but it's like that with most chuubas, you try to talk about sensitive topic as nice as possible, few usual thread schizos will just shit on you, and the nicer the chuuba the worse situation in this regard. FWMC can have the most shittiest frustrating stream there is and you wouldn't be able to talk about it honestly in their general. You would be called troll, anti, raider, sister, seanigger, baiter etc, you name it, any buzzword there is.

>>57774749
It also depends on the girl. Non-HoloENs are more likely to slip under the radar because it doesn’t get spammed often enough to be instantly recognizable.

>>57774659
>Let me explain this to you in case you’re actually new and not trying to start shit. There’s no such thing as “actual discussion related to her pl”, it’s just an excuse to start shit, either by the person who posted it or by schizos who see a golden opportunity created by that post.
I have been on this board since the creation. Luna thread used to have regular discussion regarding her RM, anon even had a support group for that shit. Maybe all you ever do is involve yourself in shitpost, so all you ever see about pl and rm is a shitpost opportunity, but that's just not the case for me. And you know IRyS thread is still openly talking about her RM stream right?

>>57774940
I don’t think using /HiRyS/, of all places, bolsters your argument there. Regarding everything else, don’t take it personally when I say that I’m automatically skeptical of people who use how long they’ve been here as an argument. I personally haven’t seen what you’re referring to with Luna discussion, so maybe there’s an isolated case where the subject matter isn’t automatically shitposting.

>heavily imply you're a lonely shut in who doesn't understand people
>explicitly say you have no interest in real men
>explicitly market yourself to especially mentally ill men
>literally me stuff for lonely people
>lean heavy GFE
>explicitly call yourself their girlfriend on stream

She did all these things and more, but it turns out she's just a normal person. It's not hard to see why things are like this. Regardless of what you think.
Its weird that people in her split are pretending its all unjustified and coming from antis. Intentional or not she encouraged the miscommunication.
Both her and her fanbase played with fire. Only difference is she's on track to be a millionaire now.
>>57774261
>>57774579
Yeah it bothers me how you can't talk about anything in her split. They just call it a SEA raid and pretend the hours line up when they don't.

At least the gosling killer was quick this time, it's not gonna be as bad as Ame or Fauna

>>57775387
>don’t take it personally when I say that I’m automatically skeptical of people who use how long they’ve been here as an argument
Then don't start calling people a newfag first. Anyways, you discarded both of my arguments because you just "don't think so", I don't know what else to say.

>>57775541
>They just call it a SEA raid
To be perfectly fair, the three raids that we had in the past two days DID line up with the time.

>>57775541
Fuck, when you put it like that, it does sucks to be gachi for her. I didn't really catch her streams and her NTR tweets shoo'd me from being gachi for her. But yeah, that does fucking suck if you put it that way.
>sea raid
That's new thing I noticed, everything you don't like is a sea raid or nijisisters happening. You can brush off a lot by saying that.

>>57760974
>>57762181
>>57762638
>>>1

>>57774692
I respect your writefaggotry, I was talking about the times when the thread spiral into blog posting from just one guy that doompost about how miserable his life is. And it happened during stream as well, not just dead hours.

>>57775846(me)
Btw what exactly happened. Is it because of 5 boyfriends at the age of 20? Or is there more new stuff that made her look bad? Ive only seen that and didn't even watch it.

>>57776025
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").
And? Any of that said anything about "past-life"?

>>57775569
I discarded your first argument because /HiRyS/ is constantly raided by schizos, regardless of non-Hololive discussion.
I was suggesting you might be new because I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you weren’t intentionally trying to start shit. If you want to play the “you’re a newfag” game, people will still call you one if you haven’t been around since the /jp/ threads, just as a heads up.
I’ve literally never seen your counterexample, and someone could report you if you linked the archives if I asked for proof, so I’m choosing not to press that issue.

>>57776025
You quoted me >>57762181 for complaining about someone asking for fucking manhwa recommendation in a Shiori thread?

>>57776182
Ok, but what exactly is wrong with asking for literature recommendations, in the thread of a girl that heavily encourages others to read?
>Manhwa
It's still a form of literature. You still have to devote some effort into reading, yes, it's not a lot of effort, but it's there.

>>57776059
That and some archive audio of her being really close to a guy and calling him honey on VC, make of that what you will. Allegedly there's more stuff yet to surface
She's just a normal person who dates. The problem isn't necessarily that she's a "slut" she just misrepresented to the wrong audience. She's only a few degrees off from the "normality" base line but the people she marketed to are nearly perpendicular to the entire thing if you can get that analogy. Not only are they abnormal but they're fucked up people.
The sad thing is it might not have even been a clear decision by her but just something she leaned into due to her model, id say inexperience but she's an experienced vtuber so who knows what was an accident and what was manipulation.

>>57776490
Are you talking about that AI edit that's been popping up recently?

>>57776164
>/HiRyS/ is constantly raided by schizos, regardless of non-Hololive discussion.
anon, her RM (who is also a vtuber btw) streams monthly behind a paywall, what schizo are you talking about? Are you implying that her schizo pay to talk about her? No, there was actual discussion there while she's streaming on her rm. What counter example do you want me to provide? And yes, I've been in the /jp/ thread before EN was a thing.

>>57776490
Know about that one two, but kinda memory holed it.
But yeah, I don't like it, when you are going for gfe kayfabe, you should be always honest about how you are, or you will end up hurting a lot of people, unless that's your intention. People can say oh it's a kayfabe that she is this awkward, almost asperger's person, but no, that's not how it works when people attach their feelings to you. It's misleading and frustrating when she pretends to be for (You).

>>57776548
Yeah

>>57776437
lmao, you already used this exact reasoning already in her thread when it's just an excuse for you to blogpost.
at least make it about something actually relevant to Shiori like Sherlock Holmes, VNs, Otome Games, or the chink gacha

>>57776833
I'm nta you think I am, but if you wanna associate me with them, go for it. I'm still the same writefagging anon. I'm just curious.
And she's mentioned manhwa off-hand before, that or I'm crazy.

>>57776908
>I am out of power fantasy manhwas to read. Latna Saga was the last time I had fun with the genre. Give me recommendations
c'mon, look at that post and tell me a single thing related to Shiori there beside the questionable connection to reading.

>>57777123
I'm not going to bother cross-referencing the time, she has spoken about manhwa at least once. If it were before that time, then sure, it's off-topic.

>>57777185 (me)
If you go ahead and say that it was before that time, then I'll just take your word for it, again I don't really care that much other than sheer curiosity.

>>57776548
Not AI edit, stream archive was still up unlisted on her ex youtube. Same way how her other sexting chats were there in FBZs koikatu discord.

>>57776651
I’m talking about all the other bullshit that thread has to deal with, like schizos claiming ridiculous shit like how she’s getting dicked down by her rigger’s transpacific cock. Using that as a jumping off point for constructive discussion is pointless, and schizos here are legit deranged enough to go past “rent free” to outright paying girls to live in their heads. I’ve seen schizos post about how they spammed donations to a roommate account to send hate messages to the girl, for example.

>>57777185
it doesn't matter if she talked about manhwa or not anon when he made the post all about himself there, not a single thing in that post was about Shiori, that is THE definition of blogposting. the post number is right there if you want to cross-check it, it was in the last Shiori page

>>57777323
>sexting chats
Spicy, is it anywhere in /vt/ archive? Care to spoonfeed a brotha a little bit?

>>57777323
Cool I guess, though until she brings it up herself, good luck ever discussing it without looking like a blatant shitposter.
Something something Hololive clear slate, something something, same deal as Fauna and Mumei.
But hey, if it ever becomes relevant one day, I ain't gonna stop you, I'll just continue to writefag.

>>57773353
>video unavailable
Curious.

>>57779285
That's funny, it wasn't privated just a moment ago

>>57757775
I think because she leaned heavily into a theme that was actually not fitting for her at all (unhinged goth GFE).
If there's any takeaway from her first month, it's that there are a lot, like a fuckton, of people who actually do want an unhinged american goth GFE, but Shiori (the person behind the avatar) isn't a good fit for that theme.
And btw it's totally fine for that to be the case. I'm not anti her, more a little sympathetic because as an outsider it seems like she bit off more than she could chew.
The good news is it's the first month and literally none of this will be relevant at her 12mo. She's gonna have a great anni watchparty I bet.

Hey Shiori!!!

This thread proves that cuckelites are the most sensitive fanbase
What a bunch of crybabies and cucks, jesus

If your chuuba plays the GFE game, people will do their research on her purity. She failed spectacularly, and thus her fans are fair game for mockery.

>>57779807
After all, I was right thinking all those gfe phrases felt like she is just doing a checkbox of things to be said. People said it's because she is awkward etc, but she is just default stacy and that's not the case. Man...my spider senses really save me sometimes, I need to listen to them more often.

>>57776059
>5 boyfriends
What the fuck? All past ones? Jesas....

>>57780065
Don't take my word on it anon, I just saw the video that I watched for like 20 seconds and anons commenting on it.

>>57780065
Can't find it anon, gomen, it's either deleted or Im blind and don't see it in YouTube history.

>>57773018
>By choice
she started panic deleting everything she could

>>57781383
When anons said that the video is privated, I immediately thought how wrong I was lol. I don't like what she is doing at all.

>>57780065
4 boyfriends. And it was presented in a form of video about love and her experience of it, very dramatic. Basically some of them just toyed with her and broke her heart, others grew too distant because she's too weird. Video ends on her concluding that she probably won't find a stable partner.
It was kinda touching, actually. Because yes, it's 4 boyfriends, but it's not like "Oh, she's a turbo slut and a maneater who loves sucking cock". No, she's just a normal girl with a normal life. When one relationship didn't pan out, she tried again, and that one didn't work either, later she tried again, and that one was a failure too, eventually. I kinda feel sorry for her.

>>57773353
Who's the author of the clip? It`s deleted now.
Shiori simp? Shiori herself?

>>57781606
God, she's gonna be a single mom. I don't envy her future child growing up with a crazy mother.

She's a woman and had the audacity to ask that people be respectful to her in a hobby mostly populated by misogynist virgins

>>57781606
Is this really what the "yab" was all about? From how people were talking about it I assumed something more interesting than "young people having relationships that didn't work out."

>>57781606
wish I could be a normal person like that, id rather have several failed relationships than the knowledge that i am truly alone and nobody finds me relatable nor desirable even on a surface level
it really is better to have loved and lost than not at all
i thought she was someone who could relate to that but she isn't, and im just alone in my experiences

>>57781989
yeah man, im sorry that im so fucked up a benign thing like that hurt me

>>57781989
real problem is >>57775541

>>57781989
Yep, that's literally it.

I liked her design the most from the start but wasn't actually sure about her herself
Grown to like her a lot recently, she seems very sweet in general but especially towards the doggos which is bonus points
Nerissa I liked at the start but has been leaving a bad taste in my mouth the past week
Biboo I like but I don't watch her streams because she's just playing FOTM or games I've seen way too much of from other members or played to death myself

>>57775846
There are a hell of a lot more SEAfags on this board than there are Nijisisters and the ones on this board barely troll, they just cry

>>57782415
In general I don't like assuming individuals to be part of a group and dismissing them out of hand. I don't believe the rrat that SEA makes up so much of this board or that everything is the fault of [other company]

>>57782415
My point is that because of few raids from both parties, vt anons now see them everywhere when opinions don't line up with their own. You know how many times I was called sister or seanigger when my skin as pink as pigs and my dick as big as Eiffel tower(a bit exaggerating but you get it anon, man to man)

What's a PL
Tldr sorry

>>57783308
lurk more!
Why do you wanna know? This knowledge will bring misery to your unadjusted mind

>>57783308
It's how to tell someone is new if they use it.

>>57782040
Nobody wants to date you because you're a downer and draining to be around
Get a hobby (not vtubers that's a coping mechanism, different things) preferably something group activity related that will force you to develop social skills

>>57783984
im not a downer or any of that and i have hobbies. i just don't have the opportunity to meet any people at all like i don't fundamentally understand it.
ive put myself out there but there's nobody around me. did I install a single player version of life?

>>57782040
Maybe you aren't a downer like anon said. Maybe you just don't meet any new people.
Personally I don't think I'm a much of a downer, I make my friend laugh, I make my coworkers who are way older than me laugh, but I'm the guy who just works, goes to home and rinse and repeat. I just don't get to meet new people, because I'm a huge pussy when it comes to that, introvert, but huge extravert when I get to know someone, or atleast that was the case few years ago when I met people, rn? Idk.
I'll try to be dressed nice and smell good and shaven if some cute girl suddenly jumps me, but genuinely I just don't have any interaction with women outside of married women at work.

>>57783984
I mean, if other people see my personality as draining what can I do? I can only be myself. I can't live a lie. I've always been a downtempo person. I'm not gonna pretend here.

>>57784325
Or maybe I'm coping and I'm just fat and ugly uninteresting bastard, but I'd rather cope than drown in sorrow like some of you anons do. I'm not old enough to completely become a lot cause

>>57781606
she's just like me fr fr, I had 3 long term gfs and they all ended up not working out and I gave up

>>57784337
If you don't want to change yourself because you're too comfortable with being that, then you're gonna have to live with the fact that nobody wants to hang around an emotional baggage.
You do you, but I'd rather not die alone.

>>57784422
i dunno, im healthy, I'm young, i have enough money to enjoy myself, i like to do active hobbies and creative hobbies, but I do all these things alone nobody really seems interested in a stranger.. I could buy rural property right now and just go live in a big comfy house in the woods but the reason i don't is because it would feel like giving up as I know my chances drop to zero for meeting someone.
i feel stuck in a rut, I dont like where I live. from the stories more successful anons tell me the area im from seems more cold and rude than average judging by how much difficulty i have in meeting or even seeing another person.
i was raised roman catholic so ive retained virginity despite having opportunity lose it when i was in school. 4chan makes me feel like i messed up. And I've never met another woman who lives by that code. im not even really religious anymore, but i can't help but keep up th morals of it

>>57784793
I don't get it, why is there only one way to be? I'm just a relaxed guy, people are comfortable around me. I think you misinterpreted "downtempo" as depressed and whiney. I don't do any of that when I'm around people. But I can't pretend to be loud and boisterous. Just not who I am.

>>57784807
Are you looking for virgin or just a woman that has similar interests and likes you? If you are looking for a virgin, give up, otherwise, just keep looking man, strike conversations if you do something together or nearby and just test the waters with her. Actually, don't listen to me, I'm pretty much a shut in, I'm saying what I would do, but I never get such opportunities. Anyway, that's how I feel about things. You just have to sift through people, otherwise you will end up in messy relationship, seen it thousand times and rn even watching one from afar at my workplace.

She is nice to FWMC so I am fine with her. Hope you novelites rally around her.

>>57785129
dont listen to this fag, just work on your career, make money, you can have your pick of young virgins when you're 40 or 50

>>57758061
>homo collab lecture in debut
>baits GFE
>blacked and vomit joke
>past life NTR lover
>doesnt know anything about hololive
You know why fag

>>57785129
>give up
is it really that unreasonable? thats just the mentality everyone around me had so its kind of a culture shock. If I exist in this world, why can't a similar woman also exist?
>just chat with people
theres just nobody around

>>57785301
i have no interest in that at all to be honest. That lifestyle isn't appealing. That sort of relationship isn't for me.

>>57784912
It takes a degree of proactiveness to be able to pursue something, not just women. It seems like you're the type of person who assumes that people will come to you, instead of the other way around.
Being a "relaxed and chill" guy is just cope for being as interesting as a concrete wall. Unless you're objectively hot, that's just not how the world works. You have to show yourself out there and be something, even for just a little bit.

>>57785374
because 10% of guys fuck 90% of the women because women are dumb whores who think rich chad is going to marry them

>>57785339
You shouldn't say that. Either the jannies will delete your post or someone will claim you're BVTM and claim this is not it.

>>57785374
Well not give up completely, but you might as well just look for a nice girl who is non virgin non slut for your first relationship right? If you are something like over 25. You can look for a virgin to marry right, but to have sex or date? Who knows maybe you'll turn skeleton when you find one, it's a luck thing right? And don't get me wrong, I think there a lot of virgin cuties, but they are probably just shut ins, who don't interact with many people.
Like funny thing the other day I was visiting my granny, giving her some veggies from my parents garden and I was talking about girlfriends and stuff and I said to her look I want a girl that shares my interests and more like me, so I want a girl thats pretty much a shut in that would enjoy cuddles, you know where those girls at? Sitting at home cuddling with their pillows.

>>57785584
>you know where those girls at? Sitting at home cuddling with their pillows
This is why the only way to meet these types of girls now is putting yourself into online communities where they're at and hoping you get lucky. I don't see how two terminally online introverted people are supposed to meet otherwise these days.

>>57785713
getting into online communities is harder than real ones at this point

>>57757775
It's mainly niji/homosisters from nyfco. I even saw a wild pippafag. They hate hololive and are jealous of the success in light of their dying branches. They obsessively look for dox so they can "ruin" the girls for their unicorn or gachi fanbase. They still randomly spam other, older holodox if they get upset about something with their homos. Even when it's clear by now the majority of actual male fans on this schizo board separate the vtuber from the actor.

>>57785713
>>57785713
True, good point, but I have terminal case of ESL. I guess it's a good way for muttbros or Aussies, but when you live in Yurop/Asia, you have as many languages as I have moles on my body and twice as many rules about moving around countries. Although it would be easy in my country to find such girl probably(or get catfished and slashed tendons), but my interests are strictly in English or English subbed, I can't bear that I would have to watch movies or anime dubbed with her.

>>57785895
It's not other team. It's never other team. Not in politics. Not in vtubing.

>>57785802
????
It's one of the easier things to do online. You don't have to project your insecurities since you're hiding behind a wall of anonymity. You can even fucking live a lie outright without them knowing.
I've met a bunch of good and bad people just by discord hopping and joining random VCs to shitpost instead of socializing.

>>57785713
How the hell do people even find online communities

>>57786163
I honestly have no clue how to do that man. I'm so lonely it's insane

>>57786251
You don't even know how to do anything. Literally just go in with your head empty. You'll be surprised about how a lot of these people are more awkward than you are.

>>57785802
Not really actually. My friend met his girlfriend on private wow server few months ago, maybe more like half a year ago now, he met her irl like two months ago, she lives 2k km from him, he got there on a train, they had fun for two days and then he came back to his city.
I remember how he was telling me cmon, let's shit on these girls im talking to, and I was in a crappy mood and in general I'm not into that kind of thing. I told him fuck off, and now I'm glad I told him fuck off.

>>57786452
I'm saying I don't know how to find those places at all not that I don't know how to conduct myself. Its impossible to find online communities

>>57786522
Valorant, Apex, FFXIV, you name it, it's a dating simulator games.

>>57786614
I don't play any video games

>>57786522
If you're not averse to using social platforms, unironically facebook groups can give you a good start.
Most local game/geeky communities, guilds, and gatherings nowadays have either telegram or discord servers that aren't hard to find.

>>57786904
My biggest debuff is being a shut in with zero geeky interests. Don't play games. Don't watch anime. Dont do tabletop. Don't read.

>>57786106
Yep. That's why they are openly discussing the bait threads they make on girls and mass downvote anyone who says something positive about hololive.

>>57787455
4chan doesn't have downvotes

>>57787526
I am talking about nyfco's doxsisters, anon.

>>57787603
Why?

>>57786904
i dont have social media either. the entire internet has passed me by. im like an old person but young

>>57788313
Time really has been the most cruel to us millennials. Too late to experience the easier real world social life of boomers before the internet but too early to be comfortable with the zero privacy social media life of zoomers.

>>57787658
Read the comment chain retard. Or the OP.

This thread was having a rather civil discource. I took a nap and the schizo arrive, unfortunate.

>>57757775
If you're a fan of holo stuff I think the fact that she seems to have little to no interest in hololive makes her seem a bit disrespectful or at least out of place.

Like she barely even knows any of the other holos' names. Considering one of the big appeals of holo is the communitarian aspect of it, where everyone interacts with each other and is at least familiar with each other, that she just isn't slotting into that ecosystem and the fact that she doesn't seem interested in doing so makes her seem a little disdainful of it.

Like, why even become a holo if you don't even like holo? Leeching off of the clout of holo while having no respect for what people like about holo or having no interest in contributing to holo seems like a bad thing, to a fan of holo.

>>57789547
>be depressed
>find vtubers
>reminded that terminally online shut in girls exist
>feel uplifted
>eventually start thinking about how I have never met a girl like this and i never will
>feel even worse than I did before

Its fucked

>>57781657
It was this clip.

>>57773353
I know about her past life but I'm here to discuss Shiori desu

>>57793869
girls like shiori are a dime a dozen, I feel like I met like 20 of shiori's kind between high school and uni. Her type of girl is way more common than the kind built out of the mold all the other holos are built out of.

>>57792600
There's literally nothing wrong with that kek

>>57794171
I'm not making a judgement on whether there's something wrong with it, but it explains why people don't like her. To someone who likes holo stuff her slot is wasted and could have been filled better by someone who could have played nice with other holos in the holo ecosystem.

>>57794113
im not referencing her specifically but also i am well out of uni and never met anyone like any of the holos.

>>57777777

>she sometimes forgot to refer to senior holos as senpai
>this means that she's entitled to her status as le daisenpai of vtube despite being a nobody 2-3 view before she got into hololive which is bizarre because most girls that got into holo were doing holo numbers before they got in baka
>she committed the cardinal sin of not being as much into hololive as her peers before she got in instead of pretending that she does
>this means that she fucking hates hololive with all her might and is deliberately doing it out of spite and she is only in it for the money which is uncalled for when joining a corpo brand like hololive
Man she really got some top tier schizos on her ass it's kinda impressive. Might have a genuine chance to dethrone orange woman in board reputation.

>>57775541
This is all projection I still never saw her as some lonely shut in person. Weird and a bit anti social , yes. But it’s too early to tell how she truly is

>>57794063
Same 10 pounds of shit in a different 5 pound bag.

>>57794113
You could literally use this argument for any holoEN if you dismissed said girl hard enough

>>57794113
Where do you meet them bro? All I ever meet in real life are normie girls who I can't connect with at all even if they seem to have a thing for me.

>>57795007
True. You will never see a Pekora or a Korone irl but people like Ame, Kronii and Mumei could easily be found in your local walmart

>>57795126
My local Walmart is full of fat Mexicans.

>>57757775
>t. nigargler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSyH26cl9AQ

>>57793869
>>57789547
>>57788313
>>57787261
Until this moment, I've never actually been conscious of the fact that it's uncommon not to have made an online friend before. I've been on the internet for some 17 years now but it's all been anonymous, discussion/topic oriented, or entertainment consumption. I don't think I've ever truly "socialized" through a game or SM platform.

>>57757775
I need Shiori's loli dom

>>57757775
she cute

>>57798508
I want this too
That's gonna be really cute af