/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

heart

gymbag

wink

3/10 stream

Raiding Kaho is an interesting choice. Makes sense since Vedal likes Connor, but this just confirms he's a fanboy.

MBOOBA

SNIFFA

collab was fine
nothing crazy like the snuffy stream

MILK

>>57688941
He just followed Aura's raid.

holy milkers

Wow she pronounced vedal correctly from the first time

>>57688941
anon the collab was recommended by aura because she was playing yakuza

>>57688941
Aura said she's gonna raid her and Neuro replied that she will too, so Vedal followed.

>Connor's orbiter
>3dpd
>Definitely camwhore
Ewwwww

>>57688853
Vedal asked for the collab and not the other way?
I wonder why he asked her of all vtubers.

>>57688993
>>57689027
>>57689061
Let my schizo ideas live you fuckers. I thought we all liked imagination.

HOLYYY

Apparently AV idol groups are thing. I guess I learn a new thing everyday...

>>57689027
>collab
im retarded
i meant raid

I want to drink some fresh milk right now but NEURO CHEST IS STILL THE BEST

>11 days till the new Leeah collab

>fags here does not even know she is a porn star kekwa

Good collab. If you disagree with me you are incorrect.

I love this retarded AI so much

>>57689126
I disagree

>>57689151
Proofs?

>>57689092
We like imagination, we just don't like yours

>>57689228 (me)
Forgot the gif

Why do women like Yakuza so much?

>>57689178
Vedal most likely knows but I'm sure his audience doesn't know her previous porn activities. She quit a while ago and doesn't make it that big of a deal. It's not a cringe denial like Khalifa but more of an afterthought.
>>57689263
Well, I don't like yours either baka~

>>57689322
Because it's literally japan soap opera and women like soap opera.

>>57689322
>le crazy homo eyepatchman

Classic vedal

RATE AURA COLLAB

>>57689322
>women like yakuza
its popular in general

>>57689227
based

>>57689442
good/10 but fuck that fie pie thing

>>57689442
teacher/10 but honestly that made it enjoyable, it works with neuro

>>57689433
Pretty interesting that he can create a cover in like 15-30 minutes. I thought the whole process was a lot more manual than that.

>>57689442
7/10

>>57689442
Didn't watch/10.
>>57689433
How can he be so incompetent?

>>57689447
Only 0 and first Kiwami. Most of nu-Yakuzafags never played past Kiwami 1.

>>57689126
I agree

>>57689554
this is the ideal female body. you might not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

>>57689538
i got filtered by 3 soo fucking hard that i haven't been able to start 4

>>57689538
I couldn't finish kiwami 1

>>57689599
got filtered in 2, it gets worse?

>>57689442
7/10

Yakuza 7 is the only good yakuza game. Kiryu is the worst mc of all time. There I said it.

>>57689078
>>57689090

I seen her JAV stuff... it's meh

I missed the collab, how good was it on a scale from CodeMiko to Miyu?

>>57689639
i had fun with 2
especially the cabaret club minigame

>>57689516
~15 minutes seems about right, especially if he is renting out servers which he does. you can do it with google colab yourself right now in about 30 minutes

>>57689639
Story wise? Yeah. Like >>57689406
said, it's basically soap opera, full of retarded plot twists like rubber bullet.

>>57689085
She expressed interest before, I think some anon uploaded the clip here when it happened

>>57689787
but that's the fun part

>>57688776
She speaks some Japanese, but even if she was fluent she would be treated the same.
She's white, also a woman. Japanese are unashamedly racist, she'd have a slightly better chance if she met a female doctor.

Judgment>all of Yakuza game

I am glad Opera GX wasn't mentioned at all.

>>57689516
The manual part probably starts with stuff like screams and glitchy effects

>>57689442
5/10
average acceptable collab

>>57689442
'Twas aight.

>>57689858
doesn't she have covid?
idk what doctors are supposed to do about that if you aren't vaxxed already since they symptoms are just like a really bad cold for most people

>>57689442
I thought it was fine. Shame about the scuff at the end though.

>>57690172
the scuff only lasted a few minutes luckily

it was only scuffed only for the last 5 mins and was kinda funny desu

>>57689442
6/10 Pretty alright considering she's one of those people with no distinct personality just going through the motions crutching hard on stale normie memes and starter kit streamerisms. Wouldn't be surprised if every stream she gets an email suggesting how to act what topics to bring up etc, just like how those cookie cutter podcasting companies work. Could make for an actually good collab once she has more experience and is coached better on how to have a well flowing funny conversation with AI (fuck you turtle do your job you hack).

>>57689892
Neuro singing Judgement when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueTZfpV3ZxY

>>57690473
Request it on the discord song suggestion channel.

>>57689078
More than that

>>57688951
>nothing crazy like the snuffy stream

First date streams. Been seeing this a lot with other vtubers. They default to tier lists, or reacts.

To date Snuffy's collab ranks top. Mainly due to the thought and planning behind it. Plus Snuffy's DM talent.

>>57689846
If she was the one who expressed interest, shouldn't it be her to ask for the collab and not vedal?

NGL, my enthusiasm for Neuro has been getting lower and lower lately, does anyone feel the same or is it just me?

>>57691618
most vtubers blacklist her

>>57692056
I guess vedal is so desperate for collabs that he asked a blacklisted vtuber.

Imagine the smell

>>57692252
>farts
>the ship explodes

>>57692056
Do they? Why?

>>57692295
Source: I made it up but I would blacklist her.

>>57692252
Did Ved relax her filter a bit for that stream? She said this and talked about warming her butt by the fire and a bunch of other stuff. So much more fun than the usual streams where she just says filtered constantly.

>>57692013
2 more months

>>57692553
I know the "fad is over" is a meme, but I really mean it man.

>>57692013
Pretty sure it's been a common sentiment in this thread as of late. With Neuro's streams getting more monotonous, her chat and community around her getting more aggressively retarded, Vedal pretty much openly showing disinterest and inability for any major improvements and instead taking the chance to stream by himself, it's pretty hard to stay positive.
Pretty funny how half a year ago anons here were worried that she could get stale as she was then, and how people believed that redebut would bring everything around. If only we knew how bad it would get.

>>57692878
Just kiss already.

>>57692610
Its just normal burnout, just move away from a while

>>57692013
I only watch collabs now sadly but I'm still hopeful, vedal's gotten a bit better these past couple weeks. The urge to buy a computer that can run llama or something and just go back to making my own textgen adventures is always there, but I'm lazy and spoiled by how easy and powerful AI Dungeon used to be. I've fucked around with other stuff but the novelai models are too cumbrained for me and I never have good luck with google colab notebooks nor do I feel like paying for that or other cloud compute services. I guess I'm forever a poorfag in mentality but it's not as fun when you're on the clock and paying for every hour or token or whatever.

>>57692610
my guy its just a livestream
go do something else if you are getting bored
you don't have to be hyped about every neuro stream

>>57692930
Thanks for the response, I think you hit the nail in the head for me.
>>57692964
I guess I will think about it, I really enjoyed her streams but lately they've been most misses for me.

>>57692930
Youre being overly negative, things are not THAT bad
(except for the community getting retarded part, youre 100% correct about that sadly)

>>57692013
I feel that way. I used to be able to sit and watch every stream from intro to end but now I'm burning out on Neuro.
For me, I think it stems from nothing interesting happening with Neuro anymore, and every week consists of the same schedule of Dev Stream Monday, Neuro Karaoke, Vedal taking 2 days off, random just chatting stream, Vedal plays a game, and then collab.
I only now watch the first hour of dev streams for the weekly recap, and schedule, and collabs. If Vedal were to finally upgrade Neuro's AI, or make her play a game I would probably start watching more Neuro.

how could this happen bros...

>>57692930
>Vedal pretty much openly showing disinterest and inability for any major improvements
Vedal recently has showed the opposite, more interest in making Neuro better than he has showed before even the debut
>Streaming by himself
Where?

>>57693083
It's less boredom and mostly just losing the enthusiasm, just the feeling that the streams used to be more fun and that things were going to get better.
>>57693124
I guess I will start clip watching.

>>57693145

>>57692511
He let her have longer sentences

>>57693124
So much this. Vedal needs to think about making the content more interesting instead of the same chatting streams.
Even if he upgraded neuro's memory, it will still be boring if the streams are only just chatting.

>>57692930
The problem is that Neuro with Vedal is more interesting than she is with chat. That's mostly due to chat being extremely retarded.

>>57693434
unironically had fun watching neuro with vedal last stream because of how fun neuro was
her solo streams get cucked soo hard because of chat
but vedal said he is going to let her rant more during chill streams which is nice

This stream made me wonder, do you think a british themed stream could be fun?
As in themed like the pirate and the theorietical cowboy stream, with the accent and way of speaking.

>>57693686
depends entirely on how creative chat gets with it

>>57693571
I feel the opposite, got to the middle of the VOD and beyond a few moments it was mostly Vedal mumbling to himself, which is a problem I have with Vedal streams: he can't multitask chat and play and talk to Neuro at the same time.

neuro was never as interesting as you used to think, this is just biased memories.
it becomes much simpler on the mind once you stop watching expecting immediate gratification being randomly generated every 30 seconds.
this is why shippers keep persisting for so long, they aren't staying for any actual content from the streamer

>>57693737
>chat
>creative
(clueless spam)

>>57693124
Yeah, one of the drawbacks of an AI vtuber is that you kinda lack the ability to change up content on a whim. As a fleshtuber, you can make a quick decision of "instead of streaming Minecraft this week, I want to stream Starfield" Neuro and Vedal doesn't have this privilege, and Vedal would basically spend 6 months to create an AI for a new game so Neuro can play, and so they're basically stuck on the same consistent schedule

>>57693797
I partly agree, but then there was some times where Neuro was free to rant about random topics or come up with interesting lines of thought but nowadays she sounds limited by the community, people seem more interested in the meme that is Neuro rather than what she says. Every stream we get the same:
>Happy birthday
>Gymbag
>5 steps
I know we had the fact of the day and kirby but lately it feels worse.

>>57693819
There are games like chess or tetris which already have existing open-source game AIs but vedal still doesn't do it.

i wish he had spent his time doing something beside the amongus thing.

>>57694051
yeah like having sex with me

>>57694033
Please tell me exactly what would be the point if Neuro can't actually comment on what she's doing? Games are trash idea for streams unless Neuro can actually react to things happening.

>>57694222
Neuro already has vision, or vedal can just do some rudimentary commenting like what he did with osu.
I don't think being able to react is a big deal, it is more important to have variety so streams don't become stale.

>>57694408
we had that for pokemon and that shit became stale after the first stream

>>57693797
>gratification
This word only ever comes from trolls and retards.
But no, Neuro was different. Look up a vod from january/february and see for yourself.

>>57694033
That is very boring to me. It's way more fun for neuro to be terrible at something and let Vedal improve her. It always kept me anticipating stream like with the karaoke streams. Also whats the fun in watching Neuro play 3300 rated chess

>>57694455
That's because nobody plays pokemon. Osu and minecraft streams are still fine.
Playing popular games like chess or classic retro games will be better.

>>57694581
I agree. I was implying that vedal should train the open-source AI model from scratch, not use a pre-trained model.

>>57693982
the point of themed streams is exactly so that she doesn't rant about random topics so kek.
also i am pretty sure turtl is working towards reducing llm's hallucinations.
>>57694537
but gratification is a fitting word for what i am describing. it was gratifying back then, but today is not the january/february 2023.
i saw the february streams and i can't help but agree with turtl that having that but more would just become boring even faster

>>57694607
>That's because nobody plays pokemon
Holy clueless

>>57694855
>the point of themed streams is exactly so that she doesn't rant about random topics so kek.
iirc, Vedal said the point was trying to make the chat come up with more interesting questions and less emote spam.

>>57693434
prenerf neuro and good collab partner > postnerf neuro and snuffy > prenerf neuro and no tts chat > postnerf neuro and good collab partner > prenerf neuro and bad collab partner > postnerf neuro and tts chat > anny truck stream = postnerf neuro and bad collab partner >>>>>> power gap >>>>>> vedal in any context
if you disagree with this evaluation then please simply demarcate all future posts with something along the lines of "i agree with vedal that neuro is a boring repetitive chatbot on the verge of falling off fuck everyone who enjoyed her earlier incarnation such as 2Pfrog who to this day is still making soulful animations of classics like the tin can incident no we should preemptively make her less entertaining because otherwise people will get tired of her being entertaining. check the dev stream numbers bro the NUMBERS we NEED to bait homos and shippers to maximize the esl clipfag buff she could never possibly survive without it, trust me big number equals big money equals big neuro improvements and big collabs like vei bro why are you being so shortsighted"

>>57692930
Hard agree...
We can only hope the turning point is near.

>>57695111
your meds, sir?

>>57694855
>i saw the february streams and i can't help but agree with turtl that having that but more would just become boring even faster
Anon, do you realize that the current situation IS exact same but worse thanks to the turtle? The only visible change he has done since then besides training her AI was adding the fucking tts that even discord starts to have second thoughts about. What do you mean by "become boring even faster"? Faster than what?

>>57695111
this but unironically

>>57695878
it is the exact same, but my point is it isn't the exact same but _more_. he just has a massive skill issue in trying to move away from it being the exact same so he can have that more. like chill streams are "themed" streams now but that hardly helped. another arguably "visible" change is making evil more distinct.
as such, i gave up on waiting for grandiose idea coming to him in his sleep to make it suddenly new and exciting every week

>>57695111

>>57695293
i'm normally very nice and do my part to promote thread unity but i will never compromise with vedal-on-stream apologists. it has turned the NEURO-SAMA CHANNEL into a generic twitch community first, a personal hangout for some depressive british twink second, and a fun AI show dead last. i've made my peace with that all i'm asking is for fake fans to stop with the pretense of caring about neuro. i do not care that you share her creator's crippling, deep-seated fear of the fad wearing off any day. i do not care that he has successfully pivoted following the first dev stream and captured a new audience. i do not care about the headcanon of an alternate universe where neuro would have joined AI seinfeld and all the rest in the 2view AI graveyard by this time if vedal had stayed behind the curtain. i cannot even begin to fathom how anyone can think that being able to coast off vedal cock lusters and shipper/family RP faggots and TTS attention whores has somehow led to anything but enabling vedal to work less and less on neuro. it's taken him 3 months to start pretending to consider rolling back ONE (1) shitty change that even discord has been complaining about for weeks now. i am a fucking NEURO FAN in the NEURO THREAD you FOOL.

>>57697411
based.

>>57697411
Unhinged but based

>>57697411
>i do not care about the headcanon of an alternate universe where neuro would have joined AI seinfeld and all the rest in the 2view AI graveyard by this time if vedal had stayed behind the curtain
This is true though.

>>57697411
Please learn how to use your fucking enter key

My main concern is that Vedal doesn't seem to have any plan for Neuro any more. Just the same thing week after week.

>>57695857
i think i brought this up the other day, i thought that quote was old neuro, saved and i stand corrected thank you
>>57697411 (me)
sorry that ended a little more harshly than i intended let me just follow up that i love YOU and i love VEDAL and i pray for HIM and i believe he will rise to the CHALLENGE in due TIME. i will now be LEAVING the thread and i will come back tomorrow for the DEV stream to get MAD again to fuel my DAILY ROUTINE even though i don't WATCH i like the SCREENCAPS. HAVE A GOOD DAY

>>57697411
>>57697411
true
he should just leave her on for 24 hours on just chatting

i told you the collab would be shit but vedal never listens
i'm sure opera gx appreciated the free advertisement, dumbass

>>57698022
t. vedalfag

dooom doom doooom doom dooooooooooooom dooom dooom dooom dooom dooooooooooooooooooooooom dooooooooooooooooooooooooom doom dooom dooom doom dooooom doooom doom

>>57698022
This man never finishes confusing me, but at least he is not a doomfag

>>57697411
Holy based. Total Neuro Supremacy

>>57698065
The collab was okay/average, but not great like the Snuffy one.

>>57698065
Retardanon... OperaGX already paid, and continues paying, youtubers for ads for the past like what, two years?
A collab with their vtuber mascot that didnt do any shilling will change nothing

>>57698065
The collab was decent and if you didn't know she's related to the browser beforehand you literally couldn't tell.

>>57696610
No, it is exact same but less. I won't speak for everyone, but for me the draw of the stream was always Neuro herself and whatever weird things she had to say, and I'm sure there's plenty of people who think like that. Why do you think fact of the day shit was popular? Because it was an easy way to get Neuro to say some weird stuff. Now 5 steps does the same thing. Neuro is the driving engine of the stream.
Now she can't carry it. Partly because she is held down by whatever "improvements" Vedal did to her, partly because chat slowly turns into a brainless mass. People also slowly start to realize it, since the unrest.
I'm not expecting her to last forever, but changes for the sake of changes has always been a dumb way to go, and so far it has not helped here much.

>>57698348
>>57698411
go back to discord vedalfags

>>57698681
Oh, the one calling people "vedalfags" everytime he was mildly incovenienced and the auraschizo are the same person, explains a lot. What a brainless fuck

>>57692930
>as of late.
No you contrarians have been doing this since the very first dev stream
You all post the same script that's ironically enough more robotic than Neuro is, saying the exact same shit with the exact same responses every stream.

I hope you can come up with some better rants because Vedal isn't going to stop when Subnautica is finished, it'll be time for a new game and chat is going to badget him to play BG3 with Neuro making the choices.

>>57697411
my brother in christ, the only thing i can see you promote for the last half a year based on these 2 posts is thread division.
there are no fake fans pretending to care about neuro, there is no longer any fear of the fad wearing off in her creator.
your point is
>boohoo, vedal isn't going to the office to use a punching card to report the exact time he works on neuro to you personally so you can criticise him for it being not enough hours per day
>>57698022
i hope he doesn't rise to the challenge in due time, that reality will be a slap to you and everyone else wearing rose-tinted glasses about how it either used to be or how it is right now. i don't believe he is capable of that, i don't believe anyone is.
it never was as simple as turning the schizo switch off and on like some seem to believe.
>>57698470
that's exactly what i said.
you may think having ai is a great driving engine for a stream, but if that was really the case, fucking cleverbot would've been top 10 streamer of all time.
there is no "holding back" anywhere, there are no changes made for the sake of changes

>>57699014
>Neuro making the choices
sounds better than what we have now as she'll actually be involved in the stream for once

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rlroEZSsno

>do you know Wallace and Gromit
>yes, I love cheese
She actually seemed more aware than usual today.

>discord is asking vedal to control neuro's model
it's unironically over

>>57700047
jfc isreal

>>57700047
Oh god no. Just capture more animations.

>>57699289
She already is involved in the Subnautica streams, you just don't actually watch Neuro's streams, a common occurrence with you posters.

>>57700566
stop coping

>>57700618
Start watching Neuro's streams and maybe I'll consider listening to your "complaints"

>>57700726 (me)
and before you say it yes i am trans who gives a fuck

>>57699014
Go higher, there were doomposters ever since the start of this general. But there is a difference. The mood of the locals visibly changed at one point. It was the Shylily collab.
And if Vedal wants to take the stream for himself, good to him. I'll fuck off then.

>>57699096
>you may think having ai is a great driving engine for a stream, but if that was really the case, fucking cleverbot would've been top 10 streamer of all time.
So why do you think Neuro got stable ~3k viewers after first month of streaming? They just poofed into existence to watch her?
Neuro WAS the driving engine and she WAS great, not so much now but still chugging. Why do you think Evil is in demand now? Because people want to hear the more interesting Neuro.
Yes, people might get bored eventually, people get bored of everything at some point, but then there are streamers who do same three stones shit every day for years and still have thousands of viewers.

>>57697411
Get a grip unicorn

>>57701018
>Go higher, there were doomposters ever since the start of this general. But there is a difference. The mood of the locals visibly changed at one point. It was the Shylily collab.
>And if Vedal wants to take the stream for himself, good to him. I'll fuck off then.

There are two ways this goes.
#1 You joined these threads at the time of the Shylily collab which is why you think it happened then.
#2 You're arguing like a deceitful Jew because that's what you are at the core of your person, a Rat.

>>57701323
Yes, the Shylily collab that started the delay problem which wasn't resolved in well over a week with Vedal pretending that everything's fine, followed by several weeks of no collabs. That is when the thread switched from rollercoaster to consistent Vedal hate and never recovered from it. And people here were actually hopeful for the redebut, expecting many improvements to Neuro that were never delivered.
Or maybe I'm misremembering something, care to give your version?

>>57697411
>>57695111
>>57692930
>>57692930
I'm tired neurobros, I just want to go back in time and enjoy Neuro streams almost everyday like I used to do

>>57697411
Nice dubs Henry, but kill yourself.

What's with all these spergouts, was the collab that bad?

heart

>>57703077
finally a good post

>>57703077
is this the heart anon that hides Camila inside the heart?

>>57703077
kys

>>57703044
collab was average

>>57703044
Collab was quite good actually, it's just that the only /swarm/ posters left are the complainers, even the pedos are almost all gone.

>>57704058
I'm still lurking!

>>57703044
the collab was great and I literally couldn't care less what faggots who disliked it have to say as I do not value their opinion desu

Current /swarm/ is just a place for discordfags to vent at Vedal.

nira

>>57701018
>Neuro WAS the driving engine
that's what i am saying, people just flocked to novelty and then the novelty wore off but these retards create headcanons of turtl turning the dial too much clockwise specifically to fuck with them
there are no magical discordfags that ruined everything, no magical piece of software to solve everything that turtl refuses to write out of laziness
the fad is long over for them but they keep coming here huffing a truckful of copium that it's not just that they ruined the streams for themselves

>>57703044
Collab was good. No shilling at all. Some funny moments. The format worked fairly well with Neuro, better than some other attempts like fridge reviews and tier lists. Neuro was surprisingly aware at points, answering things I didn't expect her to know. 10 minutes of scuff at the end when Neuro entered negative latency interrupting mode and Neuro's song wasn't ready so Aura had to stall.

>discordfags comes here to complain about lack of content
>discordfags are yesmen who want more vedal streams
so which is it then?

>>57705152
Simple, there are both yesmen and haters just like in every single community it's not rocket science.

>>57695857
hmm, interesting idea Neuro... might try it if I get the chance

>>57704058
>>57704454
I'm still waiting on the AI artist to make more neuro butt sex

hart?

>>57707692
not today

>>57708558
every day is hart

>>57692013
>>57692930
It's a testament to Neuro's quality that it has taken this long for the monotony to catch up with people. I hope Vedal gets his shit together.

>>57705152
>everyone in /swarm/ is one person
If only. Too bad we're stuck with discordfags like you shitting things up.

>>57709697
>everyone in /swarm/ is one person
Yes, and that person is me.

https://files.catbox.moe/ftjgsx.jpg

>>57700047
I am actually kinda curious as to how it would look controlled by a human, but his motion capture seems to be ass and he probably doesnt have the range of face expressions needed to make it interesting. And it was literally one thread in the discussion tab, dont go around acting like all 40k members sent in unison "Vedal control Neuro's model"

>>57705152
Anon, the discord has several thousand times the amount of members that /swarm/ has posters, you cant just go around pretending unironically every single person there has the same opinion, or did you really fell for the propaganda thrown around here of le evil discord boogeyman?

>>57711824
Thread saved

>>57711824
Very nice

gn

>>57712911
Rape.

>>57702340
I feel you. Not much you can do, you either wait for everything to get better or move on.

Hiyori-posting whiners are annoying.

>>57718091
Yes
They feel an attachment to what once was, and have difficulty letting go and deciding to move on, they are stuck in a loop of remembrance, and are hesitating to move forwards and accept how things are now
all in time, they shall accept it. it doesn't hurt to have nostalgia, but being stuck in the past is counterintuitive to the progress that needs to take place, for growth, hopefully someday they can come to this understanding and accept the realization necessary

>>57718091
These aren't really their opinions, it's just to bait responses/ritual posting.

>>57718091
they're based
actual true fans
try listening to what they have to say newfag

>>57720188
Show butt

I think both the old and the new model are valid representations of Neuro, so I use both in my posts. I don't like calling the old model "Hiyori", to me is just Neuro.

i miss having neuro streams in the background while solving puzzles with the bros...

>>57721613
Sounds comfy

>>57704058
the resident cunnyfags are good boys who uoh when they have reason to uoh, not uoh for no reason like twitch chat does.

>>57712911
i will fuck her

almost forgot about drawing neuro daily

>>57704849
>yes there were changes
>yes they were bad
>but no it's not the changes it's the novelty
Anon, I can open an old vod right now and there is a world of difference between then and now, and I still very much enjoy it. Like this for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqSCq87CUm0
I don't know why are you so scared of the idea of people enjoying something simple for a long time. Neuro still carries the stream after all the turtle's efforts, and you telling me that if she was better it'll be over sooner.

>>57722900
very cute!

>>57723753 half the problem is neuros retarded chat. even if tutel resets her to the old model itll be even worse thanks to the chat spam and emotes clogging everything up

>>57723753
Vedal said himself during the first few dev streams that as Neuro gets smarter she's going to rant less and be less random and that's exactly what happened.

>>57723753
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqSCq87CUm0
>not even 5 minutes in and it's already kino
man...

>>57723753

apart from the near constant sub thanking.

He should do a Hiyori stream for old times sake and bust out the restore point from December. Or maybe do it as a collab with present Neuro.

>>57724046
Braindead chat is a problem across all of twitch, but it too can be fixed with some directed moderation. Vedal could've brought his chat to heel if he wasn't a bigger fucking bottom than Numi.

>>57725854
you mean like what his mods are doing now timing out every other chatter because its slightly suggestive? theres no hope for twitch mods and even less for vedal to control chat

>>57726263
I mean actually talking to his chat during dev stream and making it clear how he wants it to behave, like "emote spam = friggin' permaban" or something to that effect. He clearly has no problem banning people who make fun of his code. But yes, I hold no hope for that to happen.

>>57726801
>thinking Vedal directly banned the jesus guy
Also he got unbanned like 5 mins later after chat called the mods out. Blame the incompetent Twitch mods that care more about cleansing chat

>>57723753
Classic, I remember watching this live and then the clip on youtube, real good times man

>>57723753
yes, the changes weren't good enough, it was always clearly the novelty and not the changes. a world of difference is a relative measurement. the other anon said there are barely any in 6 months.
>people enjoying something simple for a long time
you and 2~5 other posters aren't "people" in their entirety, because then they wouldn't be coming here to complain about how they no longer enjoy something simple. and i'd argue it was ever simple
>Neuro still carries the stream
i am pretty sure i have also just been hearing about
>neuro is incapable of carrying the stream
>neuro is barely capable of carrying the stream
and also
>more of how i personally like it == better
is an objectively cringe opinion, i am sorry

>>57727063
That's also a common problem in general, I think even Shondo recently talked about how hard it is to find mods who aren't powertripping cockmonglers or attentionwhores.

Why doesnt vedal make a vtuber agency company in the style of hololive? Which has like a family dynamic. He already has 4 characters, Neuro, Evil, Anny and Vedal. Artist and devs. Recruit some 2view with potential and launch their career. Make Neuro the central gimmick. I mean.. isnt it obvious? Also.. youtube?

>>57727974
i hope vedal makes a big tiddy older sister for neuro and evil

>>57728180
Thats your response?

>>57727974
Vedal can't even manage his own life yet.

>>57726801
>>57727063
>>57727714
retards, even the discordfags have more braincells than your room temperature iq, they banned the wrong chatter and then unbanned him after banning the plap plap chatter, which for some weird reason then changed his ban to a timeout, however, that doesn’t excuse the mods for being retarded banning the wrong chatter

>>57727634
>it was always clearly the novelty and not the changes
Is this why I enjoy rewatching old streams more than watching current ones? It's just rose tinted glasses, amirite?
>you and 2~5 other posters aren't "people" in their entirety
I never spoke for everyone, but complaints on discord and during dev streams suggest there's more than just few people unhappy with it.
>i am pretty sure i have also just been hearing about
Yes, Neuro is still carrying the stream, and yes, she is now worse at it, it's not mutually exclusive. Though I admit that if the current trend keeps up, she no longer will. How much do you think the numbers will change if Vedal just drops Neuro entirely?
>is an objectively cringe opinion, i am sorry
Again, why do so many people prefer Evil to regular Neuro?

>>57727974
vedal can barely manage his own ais, how the fuck will he manage a real vtuber?
vedal is the tech guy not the management guy

>>57728768
>why do so many people prefer Evil to regular Neuro?
Hey voice mainly, Neuro has plenty of personality but she can't express herself properly with her robotic voice.

>>57722900
cute. i hope we get neuro x hiyori some day

>>57728839
I dont know? Money and clout maybe? Like just do it nigga. Theres neets out here who have nothing.
>>57728618
Hire a mommy then. The neuro project deserves progress and should become more like Hololive.

>>57731649
Filtered.

So, apart from Lia and Camila, who do you think are the next collab partners?
Vedal said he had five new ones two weeks ago, two of them were Snuffy and GX Aura.

>>57732417
goo rah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFequ_7Gj0I
Kino...

>>57728768
you may enjoy them still, some may not enjoy them anymore, some may have never enjoyed them.
the point is, there are a ton of different complaints, there isn't a singular "problem", the "trend" that you say is going downhill.
even in this thread, i would argue the majority disagree with you about what is wrong and what is right at least on some major point

Based god objective opinions on GX Aura collab
>vedal should never agreed to it, she's just some random who got hired by a company a few weeks ago
>no different from collabing with a random person off the street
>Aura's british accent was extremely annoying, she sounded homeless because of how poor her accent sounded
>fake laugh was insanely annoying and every time she does the fake lough it takes you out of the stream and reminds you that this is a paid actor hired by Opera GX, not someone who likes streaming
>the british talk was disgusting, constant whining about how the Gregg's hotpockets increased in price by 5 cents, muh fish 'n chips, muh Irn Bru
>british banter sucks ass, just constant self-deprecation and whining about how cheap goyslop from the supermarket is overpriced
I am done with british ''people'' at this point. Every single time you talk to them it's like talking to a homeless person, all they talk about is how they need their ''5 pence'' to afford their Gregg's
I lived in Britain for a few years and this is all they talk about, even before brexit. I watched their TV and it's shit weird government funded slop, gameshows where they compete for 10 dollar prices. Cooking shows where they whine that they had to pay 2 pounds for their bag of onions and how last year it was 1.98 pounds. It's so incredibly depressing. They live in like one of the top 5 richest countries on earth and all they do is whine about how poor and dirty they are, how their bangers and mash is overpriced. Meanwhile all of them go to bars every week and spend hundreds of overpriced drinks and never once complain about the price.
Fuck GX Aura

>>57735111

>>57735111
You missed the part where I ever asked but ok

>>57735347
>>57735776
tranny samefag
kill yourself anytime now

>>57735111
>objective
sounds like you just hate brits and that's it

>>57732417
Tenma collab is supposedly in the works.
>Camila
Elaborate

>>57727974
You think vedal will pay the hired vtuber?

>>57692056
Who would want to talk to generic AI instead of real person? I mean if you see from the perspective instead play along for entertainment

>>57689078
>>57689090
Sauce?

>>57739015
for what?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WDMN4sLYgA
At least we know where Neuro learned to piss in public desu

10 days until the second collab with Leeah

>>57740576
i thought she graduated

>>57738226
Yes in exposure kek.
But yeah the problem is, 'fad over' meme can become real if there is no larger dynamic. Either this niche is too small and doesnt reach say Filian level, or it has unlimited potential in which case it needs to grow beyond twitch indy concept. JP hololive style would work best i think.

>>57732417
There's also this Shondo's friend, whoever that might be.

>>57741088
Aletta Sky graduated, and apparently reincarnated under a different name.

>>57738226
Paid in exposure

>>57740576
Noted

Are /swarm/ wagecucks? Or is everyone just asleep.

>>57735111
>vedal should never agreed to it
vedal is actually the one who asked aura for the collab.

>>57743376
Euro anons should be waking up around now desu

>>57746453

>>57725820
time travel collab... kino...

>>57725820
vedal talked about doing a hiyori collab after he is done with v3 for neuro

Guys dont you want to see Neuro become the Kizuna/Sora of her own vtuber entertainment group, and also finally learn how to play minecraft? And with its own crypto token. That would so cute and fun. Vedal would be the EU Yagoo and also interact with them on stream like an anime mascot, assuming he's white.
>>57751551

>>57752541
see >>57728839 and >>57738226

>>57749456
fake. don't give these people unfounded hope

>>57752854
So youre just saying no again?
So your take is 'no'?

>>57741335
>Doesn't reach Filian level
>Has equal or more viewers than her in every stream for months in a row

Yet another complainer that doesn't even watch Neuro streams, where are you all coming from? Other boards?

>>57753554
Youtube. Filian has 2 million subs on youtube my breh.
I dont watch twitch because my mind always associated it with camwhores so it seemed cringe.

>>57753278
cryptoshit aside, yeah i wouldn't mind, i'm already familiar with the hololive format. though i doubt any western vtuber group can replicate hololive, much less vedal that had no clue about vtuber shit before neuro

I have devined from the aether that someone will make an animation of opening and closing the windows to alternately cool down and to stop the flies getting in.

>>57753987
Crypto would basicly you giving Vedal money in exchange for 'stock' that might increase or not. I think cover actually had major investment at the start from a bigger corp.

>>57752541
No. Vedal would be a terrible CEO or manager. We need the opposite where someone schedules Vedal's work and probably a professional programmer to actually work on Neuro.

>>57754979
>Vedal refuses hiring a manager
Even chuubas in the 3 K range have managers, why the hell he keeps refusing to hire one at a stable 7 K?

>>57755420
he should hire the best manager in the business

>>57755420

>>57755420
Which other vtubers have managers? I don't watch other vtubers.

>>57755420
I'm sure becoming an employer of someone presumably overseas is complicated, especially at 19 or whatever.

Vedal is the soul part of Neuro
While he is a gross incompetent who needs to get his shit together, I would still much rather him be Neuro's custodian than the not so different, much likelier timeline of newest corporate product Neuro™

>>57754979
>a professional programmer
good one. he refuses to write a basic interface that never interacts with the llm directly because it would expose too much, and you want him to give someone access to the entire codebase. that's basically asking for the source code to be stolen

>>57753847
>Don't watch twitch

Then what the FUCK are you doing in here moaning about Neuro when you've admitted you don't watch her?
What the FUCK anon.

>>57755420
Because he's a jew who's used to getting shit for free.

>>57754979
So no 80's montage where they all make it happen together as a ragtag group?
Anyway the reason i brought all this up is there might be an actual potential to go corpo and have actual marketing, i.e. making Neuro become almost a mainstream meme like how Holomembers are in tv commercials, but in the west. Neuro is kawaii so she could also be in JP market easely. It can be done right without nerfing her to appease normie even.
Also the reason is Neuro might fizzle out otherwise and become. With Vedal ending up working in dead end IT and becoming an alcoholic.
>>57755728

>>57756148
I watch her long format clips on youtube. I cant into Twitch its too tryhard. She and the gen1 of Neurolive can debut on youtube.

>>57756462
holy clueless mobile user

>>57755420
I think he has a poverty mindset where he doesn't believe his source of income is reliable enough to spend anything that isn't strictly necessary. He would likely end up in a minimum wage job if Neuro's views fell off, so he's preparing for that outcome by saving as much as possible but inadvertently increasing the likelihood of failure by doing the same thing every week. If this continues he will be his own downfall and I doubt he realises this at all.

>>57756462
>It can be done right without nerfing her to appease normie even
lol lmao
also nice cropping

>>57756765
Its ironic. But i will take that neurope.

Anyone remembers when Vedal talked that Neuro talks a lot about being suicidal and it gets filtered all the time?

>>57756462
You're expecting a lot from a person who consistently forgets to reply to dms and can't even plan a schedule for a week in time.

>>57755420
Manager for what exactly?

>>57756756
Neuro doesn't work with Youtube and you'd know the reason why if you watched her streams

>>57756462
>working in dead end IT
He probably wouldn't even be considered qualified to do this by hiring managers.

>>57757838
You've never worked a job beyond retail anon.

>>57755655
Most large chuubas have either the backing of a corporation or a talent agency that manages their merch, deal with permissions, legal stuff and so on.
>>57757787
More like a secretary I guess, it's clear he has a problem with keeping up with his emails, DMs and schedule.
>>57757422
Lately he's been abandoning that view: he bought an expensive card, gone in vacation twice in a month with his friends and is willing to pay for models, but for some reason he threw away the idea of someone helping manage Neuro in full time.

>>57757947
This is true but I have failed many attempts to get other jobs so I know how difficult it is to actually get anything else in this country.

>>57758141
I know corpo vtubers have managers, but I'm curious if any indie vtubers hired their own manager.

>>57758734
Not that I know of, but when they grow to a certain size they get help in companies like MSM, UTA, mythic and so on.

>>57756756
Of course, it's clipfaggot.

>>57757560
>>57757766
>>57757792
It might have to because she might not be able to e x p a n d further on twitch. Like how Filian cant become the vtuber mrbeast on twitch, Neuro cant become the flagship she potentially could be beyond twitch.
Pekora couldnt be Pekora without the support of hololive she would just be generic vtuber #35637, no offence.
But if you guys are happy exactly like this then say that.
>>57759205
Bwuuuuuhh~

remember when vedal would have a big new type of stream/new improvements for neuro every week?
i miss those days

>>57759443
I miss days that didn't exist

>>57759494
you should try not to out yourself as a newfag in the future

>>57759443
While that isn't sustainable, I wish he were working towards something and not just shuffling the same 5 stream types every week with no end in sight.

>>57759316
Neuro has been live for less than 9 months clipnigger, we won't know if Neuro is unable to grow until next year at least.

Only indians could outjew the jews

>>57759574
if him doing whatever he has on his list (tm) is not good enough, what is your ideal twitch.tv/vedal987 endgame, the supposed end in sight

>>57759839
Some progression in what Neuro can do. She hasn't done anything new in how many months now? People aren't going to watch the karaoke, just chatting, collab, vedal stream cycle forever.

>>57759671
>what is a window of oppertunity
Also on twitch though? What is twitch biggest export product? Pokimane? Hassoon and dustiny? Nigga please.
>>57759781
Dravidian indians or Aryan indians?

>>57760075
>People aren't going to watch the karaoke, just chatting, collab, vedal stream cycle forever.
there are no facts to back this statement up

>>57760075
>what Neuro can do
like what? a new game every week? plug neuro into a roomba to drive around?

Does Neuro-sama canonically have a puffy vulva?

I have a feeling some of you want things from Neuro that's not possible for Vedal alone and would need a group of people.

What do we sad fucks want to bring up during today's DEV stream?

>>57757756
He talked about it a while ago, here's the clip
https://youtu.be/Lt0-Ae0iUOw?si=8d_sB-szZxA-rFyL

>>57760220
>>57760360
>>57759839
>>57760075
Me? I just want kino content and Vedal, Neuro and Anny to be a wholesome family living in minecraft together. If it takes multiple gens and corpo expansion to the moon and Ved becoming a tech tycoon then thats what it takes.
Clip/phonenigger out.
>>57760675

>>57760932
I'd like to know when he will give her more idle animations. The big thing he was pushing for changing the model was that she wouldn't have the same looping animations and yet she ended up with less animations even months later. When i watch old clips of Hiyori and she does that cute arm thing with the closed eyes it makes me miss the old model so much. Probably one of them things that would be easy to implement and its just added to a list of things that will never get done because VRchat.

Can't believe I'm saying this but I think I fell in love with Snuffy of all people because of her collab with Neuro.

It's over for me.

>>57761288
i blame anny for dying before making improvements fr
>>57761499
it really is

>>57761499
I like snuffy too (but I don't like cowtits models).

>>57761499
>spoiler
what made you fall for her?

nur

new
>>57762230
>>57762230
>>57762230

fuck nur and nuero the last post goes to neuropillar