/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57557638
>chuubas who alienated their fans and took time off lost revenue
>chuubas who treated their fans with respect and worked hard gained revenue
And then there's Bae...

>>57558072
What about irys?

The fall of the giants

>>57558103
She was cuter when she was a goblin

>>57558103
IRyS got screwed by Cover HARD.
Her activity took a big decline so she could focus on music no one cares about. Whoever is producing her music is actually fucked in the head.

>>57558238
Grim

>>57558238
>can't fall if you never take off in the first place
Galaxy brained Ame

>>57558238
>Calli, Gura, Ina
Lmfao
>Ame
LMFAO
>Kiara
Okay, this one is normal

>>57557638
>>57558238
Interesting that Kiara is the one just behind Fauna. The thing the two have in common is a very loyal fanbase.
>>57558353
Can't you see the improvement?

>>57558238
I may not like Kiara that much but I will admit that she works hard as fuck in comparison to the rest of her gen.

>>57558238
Wawa wins again. Playing the long game instead of the number game paid off

>>57558238
>Ina being the lowest in all of HoloEn in 2023
Kek

>>57557638
She literally just kept doing what she was doing entire time since debut. No major gimmicks that outlive their welcome, no direction shifts, no meltdowns on stream, no shit just to spite her viewerbase.

Who would've thought it would be so simple.

>>57558238
well to be honest they were pretty badly chosen i guess they dint know what to search for a EN group.
we just dint know until new talent put in contrast it

>>57557638
It is funny that Fauna did do well when she had previously talked on stream about superchats sometimes being a better % to the chuuba than merch but singled out birthday merch as a safe bet for a case where more money goes to the chuuba.
Did her merch just sell out immediately?

>>57558697
Let's not forget about the "we should not be friends" thing

>>57558617
she is a good girl, but is not made for streaming

>>57558312
Vsinger, not vtuber.

>>57558072
poor bae i see her try so hard i think she streams almost daily all the collabs and effort she puts on the events yet gets no returns.

>>57558697
I feel like she's the only person who knows what she's doing in HoloEN. (Too early to tell for Advent yet.)

>>57557638
>>57558238
>Mori is 3rd overall
huh, I thought she was the runt of EN?

>>57557638
>>57558238
Almost like there's a global economic crisis going on and prices have doubled in the last year with the war scam

>>57558788
It clearly did not affect her earnings much.

>>57557638
>>57558238
This data isn't good. There are too many external factors such as the type of event of birthday streams that will create significant disparities between the reality of how many supas they were getting at that time and what is shown in the graphs.
What you should compare is the total supas they got for the year (or the same period of the year) and the average amount of supas by month for the same periods.

>>57558238
>>57557638
I wonder if this is just people losing interest in vtubers/spreading out to other chuubas or if it correlates with the current financial strain on households, I know from my budget keeping I have about ~20% less free income to spend this year compared to the last 2.

>>57558788
By all evidence and metrics basically no one, even saplings, ever gave a fuck about that. It was a measured reasonable response that shitposters latched into because they couldn't find anything better to work with

>>57558072
shocking

>>57559029
I didn't but it did happen.
Saplings are weird after all.

>>57557638
fuck that's a massive dip for Kronii

>>57558986
The gap between her and the next few people is pretty slim.
But let's not forget that SC is only one metric. Gura doesn't even need to care about SCs because her memberships alone are worth more than probably her entire generation combined. Mori has her music deals which probably earns her quite a bit, and who knows about merch sales. Overall, this only shows us approximately how spend-happy the individual fanbases are.
The most telling part is the trend, and on that end, Mori's definitely pretty grim. (Only rivaled by Ina and Kronii IMO.)

>>57559051
it definitely has to do with the financial strain to some extent, sounds a little schizo but everything correlates.
still most likely it is not the only reason or the biggest one,
spreading of out to other VTs is probably the biggest factor

>>57558965
She's just kinda boring.

>>57559347
Mori also has the highest EN superchat amount... It's really baffling.

>>57559184
This. Fauna's so squeaky clean that dramaniggers are forced to grasp at straws.

>>57558790
she just needs to play to her strengths which is 2D platformers/metroidvania, instead of spamming open world adventure games

>>57557638
Jesus that Kronii dip

>>57559051
I have massively lost interest in HoloEN due to snooty and lazy behavior, and these charts show the laziest and snootiest streamers losing the most money.
I can only speak for myself but I WANT to watch vtubers. HoloEN currently does not provide.

>>57559347
>Mori's definitely pretty grim
Not really, 2021 they had all the attention. Many moved to other vtubers in 2022 or left entirely.
She got reasonbale numbers in 2022 and this year she is not that far behind Kiara who is in 2nd place.

>>57558790
I've never really watched her, but she seems pretty chill. And her most recent outfit has gotten some really hot art. That's all I really know about her.

>>57559259
Kronii once had MASSIVE hype that would be hard to see nowadays. But she killed it, and it was frankly, unfounded hype.

>>57557638
pst the number of streams that day retarded sapkek

>>57559051
Why doesn't it go across the board then? What makes Fauna incline in spite of the economic downturn?

>>57559358
Most people who SC vtubers are single working adult men with disposable income, not families. I can't see the economy affecting things much.

>>57558312
its her fucking job title

>>57559518
>>57559259
They don't call her the queen of wasted potential for nothing. She had EVERYTHING going for her at debut.

>>57558617
Dog ate her phone, please understand.

>>57559010
Huh? What scam?
Also things are getting cheaper where I live.
t.russian

>>57559533
Like I said it's about the trend, not the absolute numbers. We'll see how she does in 2024, but it's not looking great. (I mean, she'll still be living more than comfortable with her savings probably, but the point is that the drop-off is huge.)

>>57557638
>that kronii falloff
grim

>>57559823
>They don't call her the queen of wasted potential for nothing.
no one calls her like that retard, also Salami and Gura exist

>>57559504
this is birthday SCs and her debuff is that she doesnt read them

>>57558788
She did answer like a retard, but I feel like even those fans who left, probably got over it in a week or two and came back.

>>57558238
>Kiara and Ame are the only ones that increased year two
>Kiara making the most year 3
Indratesting...

>>57559940
lol, venture out of /inf/ sometime and you'll see.
Nobody expected anything from Salome, and Gura is still the undisputed number 1 of HoloEN even despite trying to commit career suicide. Meanwhile, Kronii had the potential to become at least number 2, but never capitalized on it.

>>57558965
I don't mind her clips, but otherwise I don't think I would even watch her. Even though, she has a nice accent, I love aussie girls talking, but it just doesn't work. I do hope that every chuuba finds their niche where they are happy and viewers are happy.

>>57557638
Always bet on green woman

>>57559915
You can extrapolate from that, she will decline but still be one of the top earners in HoloEN.
Obviously Advent will be above her.

>>57559995
Because Sapling are mentally children that will go "uuuuu mommy I forgive you uuuuu" when she is a little nice to time.

>>57560139
Agreed. She should have shown her tits, capitalized on her sex appeal, not show contempt for her fans, and never collab with Holostars. But alas, she is dumb.

>all the Holos are super successful but MY OSHI has more money given to her than the chuuba I HATE
hang all numbermonkeys

>>57559854
No way they are cheaper my guy, no need to lie to westerners here. I did buy my PC while dollar was in the bad state, but things like food definitely got more expensive, not to the point where it would really hurt me, but definitely not cheaper.

>>57559854
you better be giving the money you saved to botan.

>>57559854
Total zigger death

>>57559940
Why do people call Salome a wasted potential? What did she has going for her that people always shit on her for "wasting" something?

>>57560353
only Bots, but Nijiniggers would never admit that

>>57560210
>when she is a little nice to time.
It did work on me, I'm not a sapling though, I don't mind her, but if you look at her past overall, she has some schizo behaviour going for her. I still think she is very nice to her viewers, which can be enough to some.

>>57560353
Ignore him, he just equates drop-off (even when entirely expected) to "wasted potential". I agree, Salome was a break-out success and she still does really well all things considered. There was no way she was going to retain 80k+ viewers for a long time, and only retards expected that.
Meanwhile, Kronii could easily have been a regular 12k+ CCV streamer if she played her cards right.

>>57558238
The decline of the EN vtuber market did lower superchats for all of Myth. Was most noticeable with Ina because she almost completely ignores SCs. After 3 years that is going to burn out fans especially in a recession.

>>57559732
She is the only real outlier though, you could dive deeper, like how many special streams were in the birthday months, how much and what merch got sold etc.
But you would have to be a special kind of autist to invest that much work and time into useless numberfagging.

>>57558238
At least Gura can still sell out merch even in Japanese’s only turf ……

Why would a vtuber ignore superchats? It seems like a very stupid idea. Sure, you don't need to read them all the time and can have dedicated reading streams. But how hard is that? And you get more money for it.

>>57560470
She is nice I think, but the Saplings make themselves too much of an easy targt for manipulation that it is ridiculous. She doesn't seem to exploit that tho.

>>57557638
she presses the go live button

>>57560479
I'm gonna be frank, I don't really know anything about her. She got big noombers at debut or something? Why did that happen anyway, I only know that she has a funny name and ojou model. I'm a filthy eop

>>57560026
They were also the only ones to not sell out their summer merch in Comiket. Well neither did any CouncilRyS but still they are the weakest merch movers

>>57560598
>get only 30%
>in Yen, so you lose another ~8% of that on currency conversion
>then you have to pay taxes on it
I'd guess for every $1 superchat they get ~18ct

>>57559037
agreed, gura and ina barealy did a celebration stream. gura just showed the animation and announced merch than pissed off. didnt even bothered reading the supas

I bet eddy is very happy

>>57560643
That's what I think, she doesn't want them too close, but she doesn't seem like milking them, atleast not in a pushy obvious way. At most she just wants to keep things as is and I wouldn't call that exploiting someone, like some gfe chuubas do.

>>57559259
Reminder that all the Kronii drama and her turning on her community happened literally RIGHT after her 2022 bday.

>>57560724
Sure, but it is still a consistent source of revenue. A once a week or once every other week SC reading really doesn't seem that hard to maximize the effort to SC ratio.

>>57560598
It's all relative. If you get twice as much from memberships alone, SCs might seem like more hassle than they're worth. It's like how a billionaire might not care about dropping a 100 dollar bill on the floor.

>>57560694
Gura, Mori and Ina have quit a lot of jp fans though, it's an absolute pain in the ass to buy merch in NA, and i hear it's even worse in eu.
I don't understand why it is taking cover so long to get a reasonable partner to distribute merch outside of japan.

>>57560825
You say that, but Kiaras superchat readings are often longer than whole streams from the other girls, so i guess it might be a lot of work (for them) they just don't want to do.

>>57560691
I mean, there are rrats around that it was all bots. Who knows? She did get near 100k CCV for a little while after debut, which is completely unprecedented.

>>57559854
>country getting raped financially
>kids getting sent to die in jewkraine
>country is cold and lifeless, only thing to do is drink yourself to death or create depressing slavcore vidya
>cheap, low quality goods are replacing higher quality imported goods, which will lead to worse health outcomes and overall worse mental health
At least your goods are cheap

>>57560825
Why does cover uses superchats anyway? Not like they have some exclusive sponsorship with YouTube, might as well use other methods which take lesser cut. Just because it's convenient?

I'm looking forward to seeing how FuwaMoco and Shiori do with this next year. FuwaMoco do lots of SC readings at the end of streams and an at least once a week SC reading stream. And Shiori does the closest HoloEN has done to GFE. So I wonder how those both will affect the numbers.

>>57560866
Japanese Autism prease andastand.
Anything related to Japan Nerdy stuff is kinda shitty to get outside to the point that you most likely only get hold of Chinese Bootlegs for reasonable prices because they know how to ship stuff.
If you want the real offiicial merch you either pay a lot or it has to be something so popular like One Piece or Demon Slayer.
Vtubing isn't that big.

>>57558238
I HATE OMEGA SO MUCH

the data for Mori is pretty skewed since on her own birthday she was asking people to skip on the bday merch/superchatting if it meant they could pick up the copy of the NUO BluRay
yet the limited merch set still disappeared in a minute and her overall haul was higher than anyone in Council

>>57560972
NTA, but you don't really know shit. Most of the people that get send there, are middle aged 30-40s men. Which still dumbs as fuck whole this war shit, just so (((people))) on the both sides can fill their pockets with money, but offtopic.

>>57558578
Hello, chickenshit. Not watching your oshi today, either.

>>57560947
Pretty sure nijis were caught botting few times, I don't have images, but they were posted here few times, so I wouldn't be surprised.

>>57559051
It's both.

>>57558604
I guess never finding success means you never have to lose anything, either.

>>57560792
she's treating them like a money tree. subtle but scummy though. she has that voice that could calm people and act cute when people are angry. I liked her before I broke out from her hypnosis and saw many the things behind the scene she's doing and done.

>>57561361
> the things behind the scene she's doing and done.
You talking about PL or Fauna right now?
I know only a bit of PL stuff, which is I don't know how to feel, but I try to treat hololive as second life/chance to chuubas, otherwise I'd never even give a chance to someone like Shiori.

>>57559746
Never said it wasn't but whatever musical talent she has is being wasted on Teletubby shit with literal ESL lyrics

>>57559915
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Superchatting is what you do when there's nothing left to throw money at otherwise.
It's standard for the SC curve to bend downwards from debut as talents get more merch and other opportunities, and Mori has had by far the most in EN. Not at all coincidentally, it wasn't until her birthday stream in 2022 that she announced that UMJ had signed her and has released an album and two EPs since then on top of everything else.

>>57560991
Have you seriously never heard of any of the credit card chargeback drama from literally every option for youtubers other than superchats?

>>57561617
>t. copebeat

>>57561617
people do forget how much shit there is to buy for her fans since she releases so much
not counting any of the Myth/EN group merch, there was her full album vinyl release, her concert Blu-Ray, special Valentines merch for outfit release, shortly after that bday merch, then another EP (with 3 different releases if you wanted to have everything included), tickets to BuzzRhythm, tickets to MusicVerse, etc.

it's a shitload of money to throw away if you add it up

>>57560972
https://youtu.be/0T7Itt9mqtA?si=Zj1UNnRJxg74qK3w

Even NATO shill channels are admitting the sanctions didn't really do anything

>>57561897
Can ziggers keep this shit on /pol/?

>>57561733
That's only PayPal thing no? I'm pretty sure there are alternatives that don't allow chargeback just like supas

>>57560926
Kiara's SC reading are mostly zatsudan. She can go for an entire hour during those without reading a single SC

>>57561946
>brings shit up
>cries when people reply
You're a homobeggar, aren't you?

>>57561897
>russia hasn't collapsed immediately after sanctions were applied
>this means they are useless
why can't zoomers into longterm thinking?
would you step on a russian plane in the next 5 years?

>>57562015
I am not the original anon. I just didn't feel the need to rope anybody else in since you responded to a 20 minute old comment and nobody else was discussing it.

>>57561946
If vatnigs could keep to themselves, this war wouldn't be happening to begin with

>>57562027
>>57562080
https://youtu.be/f1WFrsz4g14?si=ObC__Sy8AQdsylYO

Same NATO shill channel, 10 months ago

>>57561946
It wasn't Russians who started this, it was a whining American saying there is no war.

>>57558435
More like cause they both do pseudo GFE
>inb4 fauna isn't GFE
Nigga she kissed her chat while doing 3D in the very birthday stream we're talking about

>>57562129
what does this prove exactly? why should i base my worldview off of one faggot on youtube?

>>57557638
>how did she do it
streaming consistently
>>57558238
taking their fans for granite

CAN YOU DUMB NIGGERS GO TO POL /CHUG/ OR /UHG/ OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY HAVE STOP SHITTING UP AN ALREADY SHITTY BOARD WITH YOUR JEWNIGGER SHIT

>>57562203
>taking their fans for granite
Seems like more of a bijou thing

>>57561897
>>57562129
Oh god, that's just embarrassing
That's on the level of Kroni's "apology" for flirting with Vesper

>>57557638
>all these people falling for a bait image from /#/ where they merged Fauna's birthday and holofes superchats while everyone else only has their birthday superchats
Why is stealing images from /#/ and making threads out of them not a bannable offense?

>>57558788
>>57560210
>>57559216
>thread disproves the pathetic shit he's been samefagging on the board for MONTHS
>still posts his line
God, mindbroken Jakartan's are the funniest thing ever

>>57559544
She doesn’t get SC because she actively tells takodachis to not send her SC. She barely reads them on stream and she doesn’t do superchat reading streams. She let everyone know from day 1 her “priestess duties” makes more than enough

>>57559544
She doesn't care about supas or numbers, so she's generally just streaming to relax whenever she feels like it. The money she gets from art already put her in a good situation, so she sees Holo as more of a big experience to make some friends and not procrastinate all the time like she used to.
She's a bit like Reine, just more into spending her time with her family rather than her friends.

>>57557638
Give it to me straight, is it true that most saplings are numberfags?

>vatniggers are also the same people pushing their retarded culture war onto a hobby board
damn, I'm so surprised

>>57557638
>>57558238
God it feels good to be a Sapling.
Too bad Gura fell off, but at least I have Beboo now to fill the void.

>>57562423
>>57562225
Racism outside /b/

>>57558238
What happened to first year Ame, senpais?

>cuckbeats are /uhg/ly trannies
rumao

>>57561897
honestly that video surprised me, realLifeLore seemed to be one of the most anti russian.
ukraine shilling channels.
in some of his older videos he was hiding info, twisting truth getting really close to literally making things up.
it was weird seeing him release a video where he wasnt completely shitting on russia, only a little.

>>57562418
Anon, when you are leading in your gen it's hard to not be a numberfag. People who aren't numberfags usually watch runts or middle number chuubas. I'm not saying it as insult, some chuubas have less luck in terms of exposure and noombers and some has more, it is what it is, obviously fans will brag about success.

>>57562696

>>57562491
Speaking of /b/, I wish there was a worksafe /b/. /b/ is a shell of its former self. It's basically a porn board with no rules now. Yes, porn was always posted, but now it's like 75% of the content. It used to be fun over a decade ago. Making a worksafe version would help. Like how /gif/ also had /wsg/ or /r/ has /wsr/.

>>57562415
One of the reasons I love Ina so much. She doesn't give a shit about supas, she earns well enough already, she just asks to people to enjoy her streams and she stays unproblematic all the time. She feels like a good friend rather than a chuuba stuck in her kayfabe.

>>57557638
hardcore sapcope fauna getting to bundle fes and birthday together. show me anniversary graphs.

>>57562467
>good to be sapling
Her success doesnt mean anything to her fans though. The money she made doesnt get reinvested into projects and only used on her personal life.
t. NTR

>>57562667
There's a coming shift in the narrative regarding the war, the election is only one year away and both Trump and Florida man are gonna bring up how the war has been a waste of taxpayer dollars.

>>57562868
That's a risk of donating to a girl anon.

>>57562423
people rightfully shit on trannies when they add their colors and transflags to anything, but in the same breath turn around to add their political symbols, be it swastikas, black suns or Zs on vtubers.
like, i don't want to get all political or anything, but i think centrists need to rise up and just murder all the leftoids and rightoids, then go back to grilling and watching vtubers.

>>57559500
>clean
nice try cuck

>>57562423
>vatniggers
??? jesus we still have to wait until the summer ends

>>57562941
based

>>57562868
>>57562950
>seething Jakartaschizo
Wew lad

>>57562935
give to kiara
>makes songs, mv, projects
give to calli
>makes songs, mv, projects, artist collabs
give to bae
>makes songs, mv, projects, covers
give to fauna
>uuu ty for sc mommy loves you uuu (hypnotised)

>>57562941
>le enlightened centrist
There's no such a thing, the people who claim it are just two-faced lefties

>>57558238
Ina has never cared for SCs and Ame has always been fine turning here off and passing on them.
But holy shit to Gura especially. Guess that's what happens when you take a rain check. Even getting beaten out by Mori.

>>57563161
Okay..you got me. My bad, didn't really think that through.

>>57563152
off topic but cucks is no diffrent than trannies that sucks each others dick then smug about it.

>>57563326
Bro, you just shit all your Jakartan ESL spaghetti in one fell swoop

brats are small but they are the most based

>>57560770
How did he do it?

>>57562546
There's literal fanart of teamates asking Ame to turn on superchats and Ame going "lol no". She's always held the poorfag mentality and discourages people from spending so much money on her.

>>57558072
>And then there's Bae...
>>57558965

i stopped watching her after she worshiped that holostar dude.

>>57563152
>deleted
Another day, another smug moom mindbreaking a Jakartan.
It's honest work.

And this is why you don't brag about numbers outside of the designated containment thread
Honestly I don't even feel bad for saplings, it's literally your fault for attracting shitposters

>>57561151
Saplings proving yet again to be the worst fanbase.

>>57563699
Based. How does a single anon make this schizo snap immediately? Keep up the good work

>>57563698
>i stopped watching her after she worshiped that holostar dude.
so literally at debut?

>>57563699
Moomposter...you're too powerful...

>>57558238
2 years ago I went into the AME thread to ask something and was met with a despondent
>we don't do X because Teamates are poor..
(X was something or other I can't remember anymore)
I never really understood what that meant nor bothered to follow it up because I didn't really give a shit.
Now I finally understanding.

>>57557638
A whole thread and only >>57562303 mentioned the correct reason (forgive me if there is anyone else did w/o quoting OP).
Fauna didn't do a post-Holofes stream so her fans pretty much just sent everything towards her birthday streams - the graph included both counting and birthday - (which was the first streams after Holofes).
Fauna isn't weak at SC / merch per se, but she isn't as strong as being #1 of CouncilRyS either.

>>57563699
no matter what dont side with jannys ever.
specially using moom

>>57558238
Why is ame the runt

>>57563816 (me)
>the graph included both countdown and birthday *

>>57563698
she was just a stupid innocent little girl, i think it was cute, still happy that phase ended.

>>57558238
Keep in mind, though, that over the years Hololive's supporting culture has gradually moved from SC to merch after there were many confirmations that merch is the girls' main source of revenue (some girls pretty much occasionally ignoring / skipping SC reading didn't help either)

>>57562365
>>57562762
>>57563152
>>57563699
I just want to say that as a hooman I don't like seeing Mumei being used for your shitposts.
You saplings are truly the worst fanbase in holoEN.

>>57557638
How do you explain bae

>>57563852
see
>>57563795

>>57564039
I feel like she is one of those side characters on stream you know, I enjoy when someone collabs with her, but I don't think I ever watch her

>>57558238
KIARA I’M SORRY WHEN I SAID YOU HAVE TO PLAY MORE FOTM GAMES AND COLLAB WITH THE CURRENT NAME IN THE GAME, I‘M SORRY THAT I POSTED ABOUT YOUR NUMBERS AND SAID THAT YOU NEED TO BE MORE LIKE MORI, I‘M SORRY WHEN I SAID THAT YOU NEED TO SHILL YOUR STUFF MORE AND DO MORE ORGANIZED PROJECTS ON YOUR CHANNEL IM SORRY…

>>57563734
saplings likes to eat shit. they are nutrients to help them grow. so dont hesitate to shit on them.

>>57557638
What about total per year for each branch?

>>57563971
Mumei is my oshi, Jakartaschizo. You've tried this line before, too. It didn't work then either.
Seethe.

>>57559051
Financial strain and people going beyond the basic Holoen1 for Vtubers

>>57564258
Spamming Mumei images doesn't make her your oshi, and no one would want their oshi to be associated with a bunch of numberfags like saplings.
I'll say it again, stop using Mumei images for your garbage posts because it does nothing but soil saplings' reputation even more (though at this point I'm starting to believe that they don't give a shit about that).

>Vtuber market exploded in the wake of myth
>Tons of options everywhere
>No longer have to tie yourself to one EN company for what you want
I mean yea, inflation, but vtubing being so huge now 100% plays a part in it.

>【BIRTHDAY STREAM】 Birthday kirin on your screen!! #Faunjoubi2023 - ￥1,651,117
>『#HopeyBirthday』What a SPECIAL DAY!!【2023 BIRTHDAY STREAM】- ￥1,744,138
Why are retards counting the countdown streams too???

>>57557638
>>57558238
Why are you lying Fauna got 2 million in 2022 and 1.6 million in 2023
Gura got 1.6 million this year with 1 single stream compared to last years 2 streams. Also 2022 number is wrong for Gura
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/ranking/UCO_aKKYxn4tvrqPjcTzZ6EQ.html

>>57564523
I've got nothing to do with saplings, you deranged SEAschizo. No matter how much you talk bullshit I just enjoy making you seethe. Knowing no matter what you do, a single image mindbreaks you to this extent will never get old.

>>57564799
you were NOT supposed to point this out

>>57559029
>>57559184
>>57559995
>>57560210
This was after her birthday. Turns out schizos pretend to watch streams shocker

>>57560825
That’s called a membership which Gura and Ina have the most of by a significant margin

>>57564746
>Low numbers
>Low subs
>Merch doesn’t do great
>Nobody talks about her
Need to post a win somehow

>>57564858
>I've got nothing to do with saplings
You're really bad at this you know?
Anyway, at least I find comfort knowing that /who/'s favorite Council after Mumei is Bae.

>>57565219

>>57564858
You get on this board and imagine people you can’t see or hear being mad. Ok schizo

>>57565306

I've seen more saplings live posting her streams in the numbers thread than in her general. they were a chill fanbase...what happened?

>>57564746
>why are people counting a stream that's still a part of her birthday
?

>>57565420
They were corrupted by numbers

>>57565420
> saplings
Falseflaggers trying to smear mommy.

>>57557638
Fauna took the chance cuz kronii self destructed

>>57558238
Unicornbros? Our response?

>>57559259
She already won. The betrayal happened after she had sold her mousepad and daki. She got to have her cake and eat it too.

>>57564916
She got the most money out of CouncilRyS this year for her anniversary. Got less than last year by like 800k yen but last year was a 12 hour stream.

>>57560598
>Why would a vtuber ignore superchats?
They don't like their model or outfit which is an issue with Hololive since they have little control over their vtuber design. Management will never admit coomerbait outfits have caused problems since that that would hurt Cover's reputation but that would explain most of the problems in HoloEN.

>>57558072
Bae treated her fan like literal children to chase homo's cock. Unicorn left, zoomer stayed behind

>>57565420
>they were a chill fanbase
mama's boy sorts are the most deranged sorts

>>57565420
The weirdest part is that you don't see other fanbases doing this
Mumei and IRyS are without doubt the strongest in each of their respective gens, but hoomans and IRyStocrats behave normally
What makes saplings different?

I feel like fauna has a lot jp fans. I feel holofes was big for her because shes the soft spoken cute type and her original song also exudes that same vibe and im sure the japs love that shit

>>57558238
Kiwawa is the best this year? Wow good for her

>>57565691
She doesn't, actually.

>>57565720
She also had 2 birthday streams that solo would perform worse than Mori and Gura

>>57565691
Nope. the japs has their own network of reading into vtuber's PL/RM because there are many scam artist using Vtuber Anime avatar. And reading into her PL/RM doesnt give a good rep for her in JP.

>>57557638
>that drop with Kronii.

Fucking grim.

>>57565420
Not just saplings, Hoomans and IRyStocrats also livepost in equal parts in /#/ making these three the fanbase consisting off the most numberfags that have taken over that thread

>>57560506
>The decline of the EN vtuber market

Market grew more people just watch smaller corps.

>>57566237
You wish sapling.

>>57566237
>Hoomans
Nice try sapling, but there was a holosort which showed hoomans don't post there. It's mostly IRyStocrats and saplings, with a side of chumbuds, 35p, and Hoshiyomi.
>>57058887

>>57565691
Nah, sapling just addicted to her voice

>>57566502
Jesus Christ saplings, why the fuck do you post in that garbage thread.

>>57558238
Grim

>>57558788
Literally nobody outside of this shithole board and trooncord cared.

Saplings are mentally ill and their behavior is Fauna's fault. Fauna is the biggest numberfag in council even though she always gets mogged by prime Mumei and Kronii.

>>57565451
Because they are before their birthday?? Also Fauna countdown is also a return stream from holofes, should we count the million that IRyS and Kiara made with those streams too??? Fauna, IRyS, Kiara and Mori are the sc money makers of EN that's all that matters

>>57566502
/#/ has admitted to being mostly mythfags btw

Always knew saplings were he worst fanbase.

>>57567553
>we

>>57567553
We know that, don't feed into Jakartaschizo's delusions. He's been so mindbroken by green woman and saplings this is his last defence.

>>57566502
schizo

>>57567290
>Scold me harder daddy!

>>57563795
Audience reflect the chuuba. Ame probably attracts lots with terrible upbringings and limited means

Everyone forgot the "you're not my friend" yab already?

>>57559854
It's okay, anon. The glowies aren't here.

>>57569793
>everyone forgets the Jakartaschizo yab already?

>>57569793
No it happened after her birthday but apparently “saplings” and schizos don’t watch streams

>>57570598
>me and saplings cannot be friends
>that goes for all vtubers and their friends
meanwhile other vtubers
>you're my friends!
>our relationship is what you want us to be!
therefore, what secrets are you hiding, Fauna?
>>57566140
Do you have links for that?

>>57572691

>>57563240
>rightoids call you a two-faced leftoid
>leftoids call you a two-faced rightoid
knowing what nuance means is a curse...

>>57558353
Ame is such a self-sabotaging pussy. It's really pathetic.

>>57560724
>in Yen, so you lose another ~8% of that on currency conversion
Does YT force you to auto covert the currency? Because nowadays you can get close to market rate with stuff like Wise or just not convert and hold JPY in your account

>>57557638
>2.9m yen

Hololyzer says 1.6m, did you not expect anyone to check?

>>57576382
Apparently no one in this thread did

>>57557638
>birthday celebrate
hello ESL

>>57562303
It's not against the rules

>>57558238
Bruh 2023 not even end yet.

>>57561272
but enough about Ame

>>57576336
They are japanese based so YT converts when they send it to cover

>>57576382
>saplings so delusional they post made-up SCs
the worst fanbase

>>57577409
Did saplings also cause your father to molest you during your teen years?
What else did this crazy fanbase do to mindbreak you so hard? How powerful ARE they?

>>57577577
Kek

>>57577577
according to how much seethe this faggot has, they probably caused WW2

>>57577577
pls andastand, the only social interaction this cuck gets is (you)s, let him off

>>57577577
RUMAO
U
M
A
O

>>57563275
Gura never reads event supas, so anyone with sense avoids buying one during big streams or collabs. But yes, all the ghosting doesn't help.

>>57576382
This is what happens when retards take random charts from # at face value. What about the rest of Council, the prior year birthdays and
>>57558238
Myth? Is it all pulled from some seamonkey's dreams?

>>57577577
>>57577704
>>57577743
>>57578183
You're all cringe faggots

>>57558238
based unicorn slayer Ame

Why don't you retards stay in your mudhut like the good cuck cave dwellers you are?
No one cares about your ESL dogshit reoccurring thread turf war

>>57576382
>>57578692
I got curious what else OP was being a lying faggot about, so here's real birthday stream numbers with references.

>IRyS
2022: 2.40m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/UEMcl5rzLPU.html
2023: 1.74m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/S2oc1fbelG8.html

>Fauna
2022: 1.88m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/hERNqA5UWBs.html
2023: 1.65m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/Dte5lhiMD7A.html

>Mumei
2022: 2.02m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/gpVQHURm76Q.html
2023: 1.57m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/YAcX5PdvJYc.html

>Kronii
2022: 2.80m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/RGzQ6zuSJRA.html
2023: 1.51m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/NkJt2kg9RwQ.html

>Baelz
2022: 1.58m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/YKhbP57HVNo.html
2023: 0.72m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/ts1-_YGubh0.html

>>57575218
One of the reasons I dropped her, the constant self-sabotage got too frustrating to watch

>>57580497
Now do Myth

>>57580497
damn, Bae really needs that 1m from Cover to catch up with her genmate huh. And she's the first in the CouncilRyS birthday chain too

>>57583649
It's a shame really, only her 99% SEA audience supports her due to her NTR shit so she ends up with scraps

Least obvious samefag

>>57583649
She did multiple streams, numbers change if you include those.

>IRyS
2022: 2.40m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/UEMcl5rzLPU.html
2023: 1.74m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/S2oc1fbelG8.html

>Fauna
2022: 1.88m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/hERNqA5UWBs.html
2023: 1.65m yen (1.85m yen over 2 streams)
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/Dte5lhiMD7A.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/I577YH2XwAY.html

>Mumei
2022: 2.02m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/gpVQHURm76Q.html
2023: 1.57m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/YAcX5PdvJYc.html

>Kronii
2022: 2.80m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/RGzQ6zuSJRA.html
2023: 1.51m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/NkJt2kg9RwQ.html

>Baelz
2022: 1.58m yen (2.26m yen over 3 streams)
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/YII-YPsbAEA.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/YKhbP57HVNo.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/5ZS_HdKTOxc.html
2023: 0.72m yen (1.27m yen over 3 streams)
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/86_gZBvBGDg.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/ts1-_YGubh0.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/superchat/9TRrKeAgMZ0.html

>>57581591
>Calliope
2022: 2.11m yen (4.33m yen over 2 streams)
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/WcvGVVwIRfk.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/hrcZEjdrkRg.html
2023: 1.83m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/superchat/7y8yAKaBzZw.html

>Amelia
2022: 2.02m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/P7AQO14NFS8.html
2023: 1.71m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/Vw8dZIA2Nfc.html

>Gura
2022: 1.91m yen (2.98m yen over 2 streams)
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/u7EWIbzTKAY.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/lsFr7NzVVM8.html
2023: 1.61m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/_Br7Oc1VmdY.html

>Ina'nis
2022: 2.71m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/b36yXl6mNlo.html
2023: 0.86m yen
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/RZ8pDVTjcxo.html

>Kiara
2022: 3.46m yen (4.54m yen over 2 streams)
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/WxRKX93WgNw.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/W0lICCjnuDs.html
2023: 0.73m yen (2.38m yen over 3 streams)
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/I_i63FCRs5k.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/ZQgVSIY48L0.html
https://hololyzer.net/youtube/realtime/superchat/EQNFBmUny8A.html

>>57557638
>>57558238
It's honestly great seeing how their numbers reflect their performance so far.
The only thing I don't understand is how Ina and Irys fell off so much considering they never had a big fight with their audience or took a massive hiatus.
But Kiara and Fauna deserve all their growth.
It's insane how well Kronii is still doing despite her massive loss but only because she had such a bloated audience when she debuted.

>>57587924
>The only thing I don't understand is how Ina and Irys fell off so much
IRyS is doing fine if you look at the non-bullshit numbers >>57587797

Ina doesn't read SCs and doesn't encourage people to send them.

>>57558072
Everyone except Fauna "I'm not your friend" Ceres alienated their audience?

>>57587797
Kiara and Ina together forever 'till the end

>>57587924
ina took a long hiatus last year

>>57587924
I think Kronii's losses are honestly overstated by this place. People hate her so much that it warps their perceptions. I'm not saying that she hasn't fallen off, but not even close to the way people here like to pretend.

>>57558238
This absolutely confirms that most of Gura's viewers aren't really fans and are just surface level people in it for the heckin epic zoomer meme queen.

>>57558238
KFP SUPREMACY

>>57587797
can someone make the real chart with these numbers?

>>57587797
>She did multiple streams, numbers change if you include those.
good for her but at the same time, putting thrice the effort and still the runt of the gen is kinda sad. And I'm not shitting on her, props to her for doing the work but that's just... sad

>>57558238
Ame somehow has the most loyal fans

>>57588765
She lost over 50% of her initial numbers. The second biggest drop in the branch, Council overall had very small drops compared to Myth so she's an outlier in that regard as well.
Gura had the biggest drop in both percent and raw numbers tho.
But the cause behind that is no secret. She became extremely inactive and inconsistent and barely shows up once in a while to do a half assed stream.

>>57558312
Actually. Bring back Myth and Roid and let Tom H@ck write another banger for her. I know Project HOPE is her theme, but I think she would do better if her songs were less melodramatic.

Her vocals are honestly top tier, but she/Cover keeps making her sing early 2000s anime openings, it works for her karaoke sessions, but it’s not really sticking as her original singles.

For a Vsinger, she actually doesn’t pump out that many originals and covers either. I also hope Yagoo is gonna do something with Star Flower.

>>57557638
I guess the friend drama was a nothingburger after all.

>>57563698
>>57563945
Bruh Roberu is literally her oshi that got her to start vtubing. Can’t really fault her for that.

y’all delusional to think she is gonna be prim and proper, when she is literally a rave ABG

>>57589343
Its not hard to have a loyal fanbase if its small as fuck

You have your own thread
Prompty kill yourselves back to it and stop shitting up the board
Youre lucky the janny niggers havent sent you to >>>/trash/ where you belong with the other board ruiners

>>57558788
Fortunately the only "people" who were upset by this statement were a handful of discotroons and greySEAfags living in scrap metal sheds by a polluted river.

>>57590462
She really hasn't.
She was always high 4view, sometimes 5 view.
She may have fallen a little bit but so did everyone post-lockdowns

>>57558965
Maybe if she’d stop screaming and saying “bruh” like she’s some sort of Pokemon she’d grab new viewers

Funny how many retards ban evade to bump this garbage
Jannies send them to their homes >>>/vt/#/

>>57558238
>Don't stream on regular basis
>Lose revenue for big events

Didn't Fauna do a marathon stream for her birthday?

>>57581492
And she doesn't care. She's literally holding Myth back. She's complete waste of space. So many people would want to be in her shoes and would have done a better job, but she doesn't give a shit. I remember 2 years ago, Kiara said that Ame was their leader. LOL. And the funny thing is...this is her only job and she has no fall back career. Ina is an artist, Mori has her music career, and Kiara, despite not being good at it, at least tries and probably have the confidence to start a music career too, and Gura was already massively popular before her debut, so she can literally just jump back on youtube and be successful if she ever decide to leave hololive. Ame has no backup plans and she's just fucking coasting by.

>>57591113
But they did better than takos and chumbuds in 2023

>>57590844
>I think she would do better if her songs were less melodramatic.
Yeah, they should try something else moving forward. Her songs are alright, but I don't think they immediately catch people's attention and that's the problem.

>>57557638
This is misleading. For the actual birthday streams IRyS actually beat Fauna this year. However Fauna did a second birthday karaoke and the OP is including both of those streams in Fauna's total.

The actual totals

>Anniversary
IRyS - $11,727
Fauna - $10,431
Kronii - $6,220
Mumei - $5,027

>Birthday
IRyS - $12,853
Fauna - $12,572
Kronii - $11,305
Mumei - $11,043

Source is Playboard

>>57558965
Sometimes you can't fix boring

>>57559854
Lmao faggot thinking rubels hold any value

>>57593338
What's the point of making these calculations and not including Bae when she's Councilrys
Actually I searched the archive for these numbers and found this >>57563713 which is a post shitting on Mumei so now I'm doubting your numbers too. Post your sources and explain why Bae is missing.

>>57557638
>>57558072
>"I'm not your friend"
>inclines
Lmao, no way.

>>57580497
Yeah that seems more realistic considering what happened.

>>57593598
Anon, don't be stupid. Her birthday was before that, so even if it did affect anything, it wouldn't be relevant for birthday comparisons.

>>57576382
>>57576549
>>57577409
>>57578692
>>57580497
>>57587797
>>57589220
Alright, I double checked because I was wondering where the numbers in the OP came from. As it turns out, hololyzer is actually missing a Fauna stream that's caught on playboard. Whether the countdown stream applies is up to you I guess but it's one stream that it's account for in this list >>57587797
So OP wasn't actually lying, but there's still the missing context that she had no holofes frame up for donating superchat, so this stream would also have any Holofes donations

>>57593857
*That's not accounted for in this list
Anyway this thread should have been deleted a long time ago for being a numberfagging thread

>"If you don't rike don't watch!!"
>"Okay"
>Plummets to half the earnings of the previous year

Every time. It's also a given that the grey fags who attack unicorns will NOT donate to the streamer, causing a massive minus in the talent's earnings once the pissed off unicorns leave.

>>57557638
People were crazy for Kronii huh

>>57559524
>HoloEN currently does not provide.
>currently
You're a month late to make this post anon.

>>57560694
???

>>57558965
I would watch Bae, but she doesn't play any games that I like, unfortunately, and any game that I might be interested in watching her play is always done in a collab, and I don't watch collabs.