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Is this practice ethical?

>> No.57431180

>>57431111
no

>> No.57431186

>>57431111
Nijisanji buys all their talents plain white tables. How thoughtful.

>> No.57431238

>>57431111
Did they never thought of ordering a copy?

>> No.57431509

>>57431238
Every penny counts (for Riku's 4th yacht).

>> No.57431674

>>57431111
Riku is making an yacht made of those things

>> No.57431683

>>57431238
Of course they did, but the vtubers didn't want to pay for it

>> No.57431689

>>57431111
It must be sad posting this at gun point

>> No.57431695

>>57431186
and everyone lives in a house with office style drop ceiling tiles

>> No.57431877

>>57431111
>It's here!!
More like: It's theirs!!

>> No.57431938

>>57431111
Are you sisters sure that pic is inside his house though?

>> No.57432223

>>57431683
I mean the copy is for the company and payed by them, obviously the first one is free and should be given to the vtuber

>> No.57432265

>>57432223
no no, the first one is for the company and if the vtuber wants one they can pay themselves

>> No.57432348

>>57431238
The livers already take a lot of money from the company why should they spend money to buy the things they don't even deserve? They got 100k because they were accepted by nijisanji.

>> No.57432755

>>57432348
>The livers already take a lot of money from the company
>2%
Kek

>> No.57432951

>>57432348
kek

>> No.57433202

>>57431111
The scummy thing here isn't even the fact that they don't give it to their talents, different companies have different policies and Anykara decides to keep the playbuttons fine whatever.
The actual scummy thing here is the fact that they tell their talents to pretend they physically received it. (The cherry on top is they just stack them all in some shitty storage space and have actually lost one of it lol)

>> No.57433444

>>57433202
Isn't this just a nijiCN thing? I don't know if the main branch organs do this too. What's bizarre is they keep sending them photos with the fucking acknowledgement letter or whatever that is. No one who posts their play buttons willingly does this shit. What the hell.

>> No.57433475

>>57433202
That last statement doesn’t make sense to me. One member said she never got to see it while this member was able to look through all of them to know it’s gone. Sometimes is lying

>> No.57433527

>>57431111
Some guy took this photo in a conference room and told this guy to pretend to be excited
How sad

>> No.57434066

>>57433444
Nah not goundou received her silver butoon (for her reincarnated channel) and outright said she never got the chance to touch her previous award "because it belongs to the company".

>> No.57434164

>>57434066
I meant posting the play button on twitter, I know no one in nijisanji receives their play buttons. None of the JPs try to hide it.

>> No.57434247

>>57433475
It's not the talent going through them it's the management, she asked for a photo and the managers said they lost her award.

>> No.57434253

>>57434164
They supposedly hang them on a wall as a trophy "supposedly"

>> No.57434281
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57434281

>the congratulation letter is in FUCKING JAPANESE

>> No.57434322

>>57431111
No, but this is really old news. What are you deflecting from?

>> No.57434334

>>57432348
You jest but it's depressing how nijifans in the wild genuinely use this argument to defend this kind of thing.

>> No.57434377

>>57431509
You gotta keep up anon, we're already on his 8th

>> No.57434389

>>57434281
If a channel is based in japan they will get a Japanese one no? I don't remember did holoen get there's in english?

>> No.57434464

>>57434281
That's gotta be because the company address is japanese, because all this stuff has to go through them, which means that Cover gets the holos plates and then makes sure to send them out

>> No.57434579

>>57431683
Not a single one?

>> No.57434610

>>57431111
>reflection shows an office ceiling
They're not even trying to hide it anymore lmao

>> No.57434710

Somebody should make a Metal Gear Solid type game of Nijimems infiltrating Anycolor HQ to steal their play buttons.

>> No.57434737

>>57431111
Why are we talking about this again?? I swear a whole bunch of newfag watched that green fucking parrot and started echoing like a broken record.

>> No.57434800
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57434800

This is also a guy who begged for views for his fellow organ

>> No.57434872
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57434872

>>57431111
Riku melts them down to put 400inch rims on his yacht

>> No.57434885

>>57434737
Why not? They clearly haven't made any changes to help their livers, and shitting on Kurosanji is always a good time

>> No.57434921

>>57431111
Not to soften the blow for Anycolor, but knowing how those awards are actually assigned/distributed kinda makes all of this a ridiculous formality

>> No.57434967

>>57434737
DON'T TALK BAD ABOUT MY OSHI RIKU NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU ARE JUST HATING ON MY OSHI BECAUSE YOU ARE JELOUS OF THE MONEY AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

>> No.57435040

>>57431111
>Is this practice ethical?
no

>> No.57435062

>>57434921
If the livers do receive their play buttons, wouldn't they post it once they actually get their hands on it as opposed to tweeting out the office photo? That would actually dispel the allegation that Niji holds onto them too

>> No.57435106

>>57432348
lol

>> No.57435228

>>57435062
That's not what i mean
Getting play buttons is basically you having to confirm with YT you got said milestone, they do a check to make sure it isn't bot numbers or some shit, then they send you to a 3rd party company to order and pay for your own plaque, which is then mailed to you for you to "receive"
So more than likely Anycolor did all this and just keeps the plaques as they essentially paid for all of it

>> No.57435331

>>57434800
>not even Bandage in another language to sound fancy

>> No.57435429

>>57435228
First copy of any plaque is free stupid

>> No.57435538

>>57431111
Office ceiling reflection ah ah ah

>> No.57435541

>>57432348
kek

>> No.57435579

>>57435331
just engrish would have been better. Bandeiji, here fixed it.

>> No.57435847

>>57434967
Bruuuuuh, I read it in his voice. Niji can burn for all I care.

>> No.57436204
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57436204

>>57433444
every branch, not just EN
also one of their talents' 100k play button was "lost" and they told her to grind to 1M if she wants another

>> No.57436228

>>57431111
>It's here
Kek

>> No.57436260

>>57435579
or Bandoji, and you could've made some ojisan puns
> instead of shit like "HAVE YOU HEARD OF BONDAGE"

>> No.57436412

>>57436204
The best thing about Holos receiving their buttons is photoshopping the reflection on it

>> No.57436599

>>57432348
24 hours of begging stream for graduation.
Well that a lot of money.

>> No.57436640
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57436640

>>57434737
Why NOT talk about it when Nijisanji as a company still hasn't put any effort into improving? What the fuck does the company even do with the silver play buttons, what do they even need them for unless Riku and the managers use them to snort crack off of them?
Its the same with their 2% merch cuts, the company isn't a small growing company anymore. Smaller vtuber companies can also be even more generous with their cuts, Anycolor isn't going to be in the red just for giving their talents 5, let alone 10% of the profits. This behavior is inexcusable for a company that's been in the game for 5 years and if you have an oshi there it's crazy how you're fine with letting this happen.

>> No.57436741

>>57431111
i guess I'll have to "buy" one for myself...

>> No.57437277

There's so much easy 100k these days I'm surprised YT still send this thing.

>> No.57437460

>>57436204
>I remember when I got it I remember telling my manager that they can keep it
Queen shit

>> No.57437979
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57437979

>>57433444
LOL no

>> No.57438078

>>57436640
The funny thing about this is that it wouldn't even take alot of money to order a copy, it's just a hundred dollars so they can send it off to the talent while keeping a copy for their office wall if they really wanted it so bad, but appearently 100 dollars is too much and they would rather force their talents to lie for them

>> No.57439071
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57439071

>>57434800
theres nothing wrong with that ackshually

>> No.57439126

>>57431683
#doubt

>> No.57439892

>>57431111
Just hilarious to me how the liver in question always says something like "it has finally arrived" or "it's finally here". Like who are they trying to fool? Lmao. The fact that they lie about getting it is so fucking bizarre to me because it shows that they know it's fucked up for the company to keep them.

>> No.57441773

>>57434967
this issue has been discussed to death and no, its not ethical to keep an award that a liver has worked for. even mito has her's in the niji office.

>> No.57441783

>>57439892
Anon, Niji tells them what to say. They have to pretend or they're in for another stealth suspension.

>> No.57441913
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57441913

>>57432755
That's 2% more than what they deserve

>> No.57442064

>>57436640
Ego boost and narcissism. They can show the room full of silver buttons to potential sponsors during business meetings as the trophies they got

>> No.57442110

>>57431180
in a better world the thread ends with fpbp

>> No.57442195

>>57439892
Managers have access to their accounts.

>> No.57442206

>>57431111
yes because it's literally a company's success not the talent, comes with being carried by a big name

>> No.57442478

show me the updated picture.

>> No.57443935

>>57434737
The green parrot features posts from here and other imitation sites, so it's been discussed before stupid actual newfag fuck. That fucking incestous looking freak Riku and shitty management needs to give those buttons to the talents that made his company what they are today and raise their merch higher then fucking 2%. Otherwise I wish for RIku to get drunk on his boat and flung overboard and drown so their stocks can go down once the news of his death is out. Maybe then they'll give a shit about the talents instead of vampiric stockholders.

>> No.57444672

>>57432348
I didn't know you're /here/, Riku-shachou

>> No.57445236

>>57431111
yes it is nijisanji gave them their success

>> No.57445340

who gives a shit. f1 teams keep the trophies the drivers supposedly earn and those are actually nice, not some 3d printed plastic shit

>> No.57445572

>>57442064
See >>57438078

>> No.57445596

>>57434800
>This guy supports his colleague
That is pretty professional of him to do that

>> No.57445743

>>57431111
Who the fuck thought Yu Q Wilson was a good name?

>> No.57445802

>>57431111
Who the fuck is this? I look away for two seconds and there's constantly more of these Niji fuckers coming out of the woodworks. At this point I'm convinced that they just have an AI churning out VTubers for them.

>> No.57445842

>>57431111
so why are companies allowed to have so many youtube channels?

>> No.57445881

>>57442206
>yes because it's literally a company's success not the talent, comes with being carried by a big name
>He thinks Anykara would have any success without their talents
Seriously Anykara intern, this excuse does not make Anykara look good since Cover sends play buttons to its talents

>> No.57445911

>>57432348
I can't even describe the insurmountable bullshit this post is festering.

>> No.57446317

>>57445743
But Wilson is a regular name...

>> No.57446376
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57446376

>>57432348
Gee I wonder who's behind this post

>> No.57446482

>>57445743
If you think that is bad. Wait until you see the names of the other 2 guys in his wave.
Those names were 100% AI made.

>> No.57446491

>>57432348
I knew that Riku wants to be a jew real hard, but come on, at least give some treats to your dogs.

>> No.57446656
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57446656

>>57432348
Why keep symbolic rewards? That's fucking creepy, they're the exact sort of useless dog bone you should absolutely give to the employee. You haven't even read about this, holy shit you don't even read about management. Here, let's start you off on the bunny hill.

>> No.57446744

>>57432348
>The livers already take a lot of money from the company

Anon made me actually spit out my drink with this.

>> No.57446794

>>57442206
So your point is that essentially the boss can just say
>We will reward anyone who can be employee of the month
But your boss puts himself up as EOTM for every month.

>> No.57447049

>>57439892
>>57441783
>>57442195
>They're pretending you see!
>There's no way they can be happy that their hard work has been rewarded!
You're horrible people.

>> No.57447426

>>57445743
If it was the other way around, Wilson Q Yu, it'd be a normal name

>> No.57447483

>>57431111
Riku will eventually have another yacht made out of silver youtube play button

>> No.57448115

>>57447049
how is their hard work being rewarded by them not being given their plaque? that's the opposite of being rewarded in fact

>> No.57448853

>>57436204
the most insulting thing about this is that they would ask their talents to lie on their behalf but not put in the bare minimum of effort to make it look like the pictures were taken in different rooms

>> No.57450187

>>57431111
Aren't all the account's address to the Niji's offices? So the play button gets sent there by default? I guess it is lazy of Nijisanji to never ship the plaque afterwords.

>> No.57450397

>>57437979
>Their play button are displayed in the office room and are left to gather dust
Christ, at least clean it once in a while if you aren't gonna give it to the people who worked for it and leave it for display.

>> No.57451043

>>57450187
A bit naive to call it laziness. Livers can go to the office to see their play button, assuming the company hasn't lost it. But you can't take it home with you. Because, as far as Anycolor is concerned, the company owns it. They don't allow you to have the little trophies as proof of your hard work. The company wants you to remember that they own your success, and you are only successful because they let you be. You aren't valued. That's why you get 2% of the merch. Do you think people buy it because they like you? No. They buy it because they like the company.

>> No.57452182

>>57437979
why is nijisanji like this?

>> No.57452448

>>57450187
one thing is the play button being delivered to the office, another thing is it staying at the office, and the tallent itself just getting the same "white table photo" to post on social media and nothing more.

meanwhile, they could just get another copy of the play button and send to the tallents, keep one at the office and send the other to the talent, but 2%s doesn't deserve it, right?

>> No.57452909

>>57436640
The irony of posting this using the photo of Petra who loves Riku Tazumi, wanted his nijipuppet, mentions him all the time, buys nijisanji merch all the time (funny how the merch cut is low but the members buy merch huh) and is a huge niji fan

>> No.57453022

>>57445881
Yeah anon im sure the 100k they get in less than a month comes from the talent and not the brand. Connor always has been right

>>57432755
50/50 in everything but merch

>> No.57453217

>>57443935
>>57434885
>>57434967
>>57436640
Because this is old news and an anonymous board is completely irrelevant and wont change anything, just like the internet wont. They have been like this for 5 years and will continue to be.

>> No.57454648

>>57431683
>paying for your own award

grim

>> No.57454757

>>57434737
>b-blame the parrot

niggersanji is still shit and still wont improve

>> No.57454808

>>57434872
pulverises them into dust and snorts it

>> No.57455098

>>57436204
shion using hers as a mirror always makes me laugh

>> No.57457023

>>57431683
they already paid for anything

>> No.57458200

>>57431111
This is the first time i've seen a vtuber unironically care about this plaque

>> No.57459784

>>57453022
>50/50 in everything except merch
>merch is 60% of revenue (anycolor's financial report)
So basically they take almost 2/3rds of the money generated by the members and then take half again of the remainder.

>> No.57459868

>>57445743
>Who
chatGPT

>> No.57460241

>>57447049
They arent being rewarded via hard work, Anycolor is hoarding all the plaques and they arent even sending them out. They don't even seem to be remotely willing to order a copy for their talents, or letting their own talents do it. It's just the same white desk and the same reflection of an office ceiling.

>> No.57460992

>>57431111
Isn;t this dude being shipped with Pomu now? QRD?

>> No.57460998

>>57436204
>screenshots are in hebrew
Fucking Idol agents working 24/7

>> No.57461195

>>57453022
>50/50 in everything but merch
What about the streamlabs donos

>> No.57461322

>>57431111
yes, Riku is the supreme overlord of Nijisanji. If he wants to decorate an entire room of his mansion with his organs youtuber play buttons, then he WILL do so.

>> No.57461357

>>57434800
>Meanwhile Kiara
>Meanwhile all of HoloEN when someone releases a cover

>> No.57461746

>>57461195
aren't those also 50/50? The thing is superchat is really 35/35/30 because Neal Youtube takes 30% off the top. Streamlabs only charges paypal fees, which are only a few percent unless people send a bunch of $1 donos because paypal charges a like 30 cents per transaction

>> No.57462327

>>57431111
https://twitter.com/DonieDarko3/status/1697107159509860476
Can you dumb motherfuckers keep your shit contained in this hellhole!

>> No.57462675
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57462675

>>57462327
https://twitter.com/TakoBrain/status/1697112320948760645
You guys are so original!

>> No.57462880

>>57458200
see
>>57436204
Are you even a true holofag?

>> No.57463073

>>57462675
Nijiseethe kek

>> No.57463647

>>57463073
You are a parasite. And your art is mediocre.

>> No.57463751

>>57462327
>>57462675
As annoying as containment breakers can be, Nijisanji should use this opportunity to realize that their old way of working is at an end. If this is what some viewers think, imagine what prospect talents think knowing that NijiEN can and will
>Hold your silver and gold plaques hostage, you will never ever receive either of them, or even a copy
>Give you stealth suspensions for little to no reason
>Turn the company fanbase, or even your fanbase against you if you do something that hurts a manager's ego
>Give you only 2% the revenue earned from merchandise. Barely any chance of it being unique from a company as massive as Anycolor, it'll just be the same copypasted shit.
>Refuse to fund anything for your debut in even the slightest
>Keep you waiting for ages for your official 3D, no fanmade 3Ds are allowed as shown with Pomu early on. And even if you do receive your 3D model, there's no guarantee it'll work well enough for Home 3D since Pomu is STILL waiting.

>> No.57463909

>>57445340
winning f1 comes from an effort collaboration of mechanics, engenieers as well as the pilots. they keep it to show that the trophy belongs to them all. besides, you cant just order a copy for a hundred bucks like youtube.
when a player recieves individual awards, like mvp awards, the team wont keep it, thats scummy.

>> No.57464189

>>57463751
>>Hold your silver and gold plaques hostage, you will never ever receive either of them, or even a copy
You are really making this into a big ass problem when literally no one gives a shit. You wouldn't be crying about this if your favorite drama shitter was spouting about this.
>>Give you stealth suspensions for little to no reason
But enough about Vesper or Magni. Stop pretending you actually care about Niji.

>> No.57464694

>>57464189
As shown by the screencaps in >>57436204, some livers genuinely care. And despite to what you Riku apologists might think I did care for NijiEN early on, even supporting the IDs like ZEA for a bit before we even got Lazulight
But if it wasn't for the some of the talents acting dumb or causing drama for attention, it's the fault of poor management letting the branch fall apart like we can see happen in real time.

>> No.57468142

>>57462675
https://twitter.com/TakoBrain/status/1697242358180438245
>it's a Phasebrown

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