/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

To make you seethe forever.

I told you she was only gonna come back to fool retards into buying her "busy with projects" meme excuse, as in "look guise my birthday's done now i can stream again, i totally was busy with projects, see?"
Enough time has passed for everyone to have already forgotten the last hiatus so now she can dip again without worries

>>57333855
gatekeeping

>>57334177
Good point.

Everything she do with the intent of generating the most mindshare, even from schizos.

>>57333855
keeping her paypigs from getting a better girl

>>57334114
Every. Fucking. Break. "Sorry I was so busy with projects and offline work". What fucking projects bitch, you do just as much special events as other holos that stream 10x more than you.

>>57334114
"busy with projects" aka commissioning kanauru to skinwalk some songs for her

EN4 can't come soon enough. Need more Gura streams.

>>57333855
mission accomplished

>>57333855
Sorry, she got pregnant again.
I couldn't help it.

>>57333855
Keep her pay piggies renewing membership

>>57333855
Shot them in the legs so they have 0 chance of catching up to her. She did the same with Council too.

>>57337951
Her channel has at the absolute minimum 36k members, 180k/month minus youtube and cover cuts is what, like 80k/month? Just for existing?
That's more than she would get from supers for streaming all 30 days of the month, there's no incentive to stream with the membership money that comes in for free.

>>57338118
based gura

>>57338559
chumbuds are retarded simps

>>57344990
Less tears next time

Gotta keep em on their toes, can't have another back hort gook sneak her way into Hololive. Based

>>57345050
Case in point

>>57345050
what was that chumbie?

>>57345376
What site is that from?

>>57348253
I made it

The most annoying vtuber in the world

Can't wait for EN4 so I can see Gura stream again

>>57338559
Where did you pull that number? There is no public info about members.

>>57333855

>>57350154
Just like the streamy award, Gura's fans got her the title while she does nothing.

>>57353402
You vshojo shills will never live this one down huh
Are you upset because its the first awards you couldn't bribe?

I thought Council was just a fluke. I thought she was coming back for good and that Advent gave her the kick in the ass to get back to it but I actually really do not see her as a good person now that she's just vanished into thin air again. She just wanted to make sure that her memberships stay where they were by drip feeding her fans the bare minimum to make sure the shiny new toys didn't entice them away to other girls who actually want to please their fans. She deliberately kneecapped council then ghosted her audience and now she deliberately kneecapped advent and has ghosted her audience again.

I unironically do not think she is a good person. This is simply avaricious of her. She doesn't care about her fans, she doesn't care about the company than made her what she is and she doesn't care about the health of the industry as a whole.

>>57354873
I almost believed this was a serious post until you used the word "avaricious"

>>57354992
Are you so esl that "avaricious" sets off your bullshit detectors?

>>57354873
i don't know how anyone can defend her behavior, she didn't do it just once but twice now. it's way too suspicious

People don't realize cover asks her to stream a lot every time a new gen debuts because the majority of her subs aren't subbed to anyone else in hololive so when she streams hopefully they look over at their recommended vids and see the new gen

>>57355206
If Cover cared about sharing around subs or breathing live into dead subs, they would have her wait until the collab ban is over and schedule collabs between her and all the other girls. What your saying is pure cope.

>>57333855
She earned enough so she don't need to stream foe another year

>>57354363
I'm upset because Filian lost

>>57333855
Advent blessed us with Fuwamoco
Every stream has been great
No harm done, hope your oshi appears more than santa claus
I don't even dislike her but chumbuds creep me the fuck out

>>57345376
Quality over quantity nijinigger

>>57356730
Retard. Jaiden deserved it more than your spastic ADHD child

>>57333855
>So, shark just dipped after spoiling Advent launch?
yes
>What’s her endgame?
waiting for en4 so she can overlap again like the disgusting whore that she is

>>57355206
Makes sense

>>57355206
This is the dumbest cope
If she wanted to help Advent surely she could have found a better way than streaming Contraband Police.

>>57358326
No it does not, and this anon >>57355280 explains why Chumkek

>>57354873
This but unironically

Why do bau bau niggers constantly shit on other holos?
Do they not realize their oshis would still be begging for idol manager dick if not for Gura?

>>57354873
I don't think she's a bad person, I think she's unable to handle the pressure of being the Tom Brady of vtubers. She was an autistic brony beforehand, and the way Calli and Kiara talked about her when they met they made her seem incredibly shy and introverted.

discord thread

>>57358975
That doesn't explain the pattern of behaviour we're seeing. Sure, she might be retarded but that's not a factor at play. It's incredibly suspicious that just suddenly around the time of new gens debuting, she pops back in just long enough for the debut hype to simmer down and then disappears. Your theory would make sense if it was random, if she randomly popped up for 2 weeks at random points in the year and then vanished again but that's not what it happening. It is timed. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...

>>57353402
I didn't even know about it until management retweeted it

>>57333855
mascot status

>>57333855
>Excited for Advent
>About to drop Gura for someone that cares
>Gura comes back to yank the leash
>Stop caring about Advent

>>57358975
>Tom Brady of vtubers
Alright QB that got carried by the defense and the greatest coach of all time to bunch of Superbowls? That analogy sounds about right.

>>57358975
DYRB?

>>57333855
Thats exactly what she did and it was pretty obvious. Though I didnt expect her to have the balls to actually stop streaming again as soon as Advent was done debutting. She could had at least pretended she cared for her chumbuds.

>>57360510
Die nijinigger

>>57333855
she was threatened by the rock

>>57354873
Still better than shitori

>>57334114
>busy projects
it's called having SEX

>>57333855
is that one graph real?
is she fucking crazy or what?

>>57354873
Gura antis during her ghosting
>Seethe
Drama schizos
>Seethe
Chumbuds who have had enough
>Seethe

Just fuckin cancel your membership(doubt you have one), forget gura and just watch other fuckin vtubers, HOW FUCKIN HARD IS THAT!?

>>57362220
>LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!

unironically, how are there still people watching Gura in 2023? everyone else in the company at least tries to change up/enhance their content, or try new things with their 3D lives. but this bitch has the same shitty jokes, the same stream content, the same dry-ass personality for all of 3 whole years and you faggots just eat it up. even when she ditches you chumkeks for being """"busy"""", you still flock to her latest stream like sheep during feeding time. but that's exactly what you people are; fucking sheeple. don't ask questions, consume stream and get excited for next stream.
have some fucking dignity

she is currently throwing a hissyfit with management, complaining how the new girls stream around her time and steal her numbers.

>>57362906
>seething hater

>>57362906
Why do you fuckin care so much on something you obviously hate? The fucks wrong with you? your opinion doesnt change a thing, were going circles here everytime these happens..

>>57333855
just a little friendly company hazing :)

>>57363060
>anger = hate
kek
If it was hate, I wouldn't care. But tough shit, I love Hololive. So it would obviously set any well-meaning fan off to see that the top dog on the EN side is such a lazy and boring money grubbing bimbo.

>>57362906
She does nothing and doesn't collab with males, so chumbuds gaslight themselves by projecting their ideal Gura onto her.

>>57363369
But still, your ramblings doesn't make sense.. You are seething on someone who i think knows very well what she is doing.. so why not just go support the ones you love? forget gura and live your life..

>>57354873
Wait how did she kneecap council?

>>57363656
Doing the same thing she did with Advent. Break her hiatus which stirs up the "Oh my God Gura's back!" crowd. Overlapped streams with new talents. Then fucked off when hype of council died down.
For Advent, her kneecapping of Bijou was really fucking blatant when she would stream at the exact same times and end the stream within minutes of Bijou ending hers. It's out of character for Gura to go beyond a 3.5 hour stream but out of the 17 streams she did from around the debut of Advent to when she fucked off again, 10 of them exceeded 3.5 hours and 6 of them were greater than 5 hours. Just coincidentally all of those 6 extra long streams were synced up with Bijou's long streams.

Gura is honestly a massive cunt.

Why doesn't anyone realize Gura came back to stream during advent's debut buff because Gura wanted LESS eyes on her? She's always felt undeserving of the spot she's in and was hoping that her numbers would go down. Sadly she doesn't understand that the bulk of her viewers only watch her, so it doesn't matter when and how she streams.

>>57364063
>Bijou
good fk that rock girl, destroying mori's slut

>>57364325
She just needs to collab with Tempus to nuke her numbers, but it'll never happen since she can't handle the fallout of that a-bomb.

>>57364325
You know what she could do to lessen the magnitude of her return, just stream more often so it doesn't feel like a special occasion. She just has to do her job and her job gets easier.

>>57333855
Her job there was done

>>57364325
I'll share this again since many anons are pretty retarded business-wise.

Gura and Advent are working for a fuckin same company:
-If overlapping is a "problem" business-wise , it should already been stopped early on.
-If ghosting twitter or not streaming is affecting cover business-wise: again, she should have been reprimanded early on.
-Fuck pressure or busy with other projects reasons. She's been a yt creator for more than a decade, she knows what she is doing.

As long as shes always pulling a large CCV, and solding-out merch here and there, I really believe nothing's gonna change.
'
Now if you are chumbud and had enough, just turn away, i guess watch others.

>>57367578
Not sure why you replied to me when I agree with you on most of your points. Since I'm guessing you're someone else that's watched her since before being a shork you'd know she has huge imposter syndrome problems.

Gura gets good numbers and business for Cover, which is absolutely why she's able to just stream when she wants without a real schedule anymore. You can't tell me though that she wants to be in the spotlight, especially if you've been watching her for a while.

>>57333855
Maybe her tommy hurt to avoid the overwatch collab

>>57367578
Nobody is making the claim what Gura is doing is bad for business. Cover doesn't care who is making the money, just as long as the money is being made. That doesn't mean what Gura is doing is right, she's crippling the growth of her genmates and setting a shitty standard for fans.

>>57359778
>new gen
>”awesome! I love holo!”
>get motivated
>do a lot
>get burnt out
>retreat

Unless she’s the greatest actor in the world, you can see her genuine live and enthusiasm for this shine through in how she talks about Advent. We know she gets burnt out quick, and her rm had one of the slowest upload schedules I can remember. I’m not saying that this makes it ok or anything, that’s up to the individual. I’m saying this isn’t abnormal in the slightest.

I think it would help if others dragged her into collabs more.

>>57368562
I believe it

>>57368562
This is kinda supported by the fact that during long gura droughts kiara is usually the one to bring her back to do something.

>>57368562
>get burnt out streaming less than most hololive in 2 weeks to the point you need to take a multi-month break

Ogey

>>57368104
Who is Tommy and why is he hurt?

>>57362906
Hey, don't insult the Sheeple like that. They love Lisa and Lisa loves her Sheeple. This is nothing like Gura and chumkeks.

>>57368779
…yeah?

>>57367982
my bad, I replied to you because i agree with you. my points are directly to those who cant stop seething..

>>57369116
If you believe that, I have some MLMs I'd like you to invest in.

>>57368181
>crippling the growth of her genmates and setting a shitty standard for fans
wer proof she's the reason of genmates crippling growth? they have their own fans, ffs.
>setting a shitty standard
wer proof again? no one's following her ghosting antics. other holomems are pretty visible.

Chumbuds only watch Gura, i have no idea why even bother to come back right before Advent, it's not like they are going to watch the new girls or move to another one entirely.
Gura has the most loyal fans.

>>57333855
I want a Gura's Hiatus chart like the HxH one so we can see if she has spent more time on or off streaming

>>57369544
>wer proof she's the reason of genmates crippling growth?
Look at times where Bijou was straaming and Gura started over the top of her. Whenever Gura starts her stream, Bijou takes a huge hit. If you want to make the argument that CCV has nothing to do with growth, present your evidence

>wer proof again? no one's following her ghosting antics. other holomems are pretty visible.
And? It's not a good look for the poster child of Hololive to ghost her job. Plus I can just imagine how demoralising it is for the other girls that they have to constantly put in her work to retain their viewers and the fucking shark can do whatever she wants and still curb stomp everyone's CCV. Regardless of how Gura feels being number 1, it carries a responsibility.

>>57369685
>Gura has the nost loyal fans
No, she had the largest pool of fans and small chunks shedding off over time aren't a big deal because there's so many.

>>57333855
anyone that still defends her at this point is a fucking clown
i'm so glad we have biboo and fuwamoco now

>>57333855
To deal as much destruction to Hololive as possible over Mori locking her up in their AirBnB because her family raided them.

>>57362906
She doesnt need to change because her content is so rare that it doesnt have time to get stale. How can the same joke get overplayed if it barely ever gets played in the first place?

>>57356959
You always say that, but it's not like she showers you with diamonds every stream. It's literally the same shit as any other streamer, just less frequently.

>>57364063

>>57364063
It was a coincidence

>>57372661
i don't think even chumbies honestly believe that

>>57356959
ah yes the quality "ive streamed for exatcly 59 minutes and 50 seconds, guys buy my merch see you in two months"

>>57333855
I have been membered to her for 2 and a half years but I didn't watch any of the string of streams she did over advent debut, mainly just catching the end of these unusually long streams. I wanted to check out the new girls and the timing of her return invites lexposting, same as when she did this with council.

I started feeling a little guilty assuming the worst after I saw her talking positively about fuwamoco, promising that she "will not should" communicate when she is going to be absent,
and putting in serious hours with collabs to boot but lo and behold the second the debut buff has worn off she is just in the wind again without saying anything.
I haven't even bothered catching up on her vods this time, if she doesn't come back with some kind of believable excuse as to why she could only stream right when the max amount of tourists were checking out the new girls then I am just going to assume she was looking to hoover up more members into the shark cycle for passive income.

It's actually make or break for me, if she can't come back with that same energy she somehow managed to find at advent debut and it's another anaemic streams and excuses arc so soon then she is actually just stringing people along at this point. She had so many people gushing about how great it was to see her so regularly again and she was actually acknowledging it and giving hope that we were finally back. HOW can she not feel bad just fucking off right away after that?

>>57373887
Two explanations
Either she's clueless and genuinely doesn't understand why she's a raging cunt for doing this. Maybe the debut period just swept her away into a manic phase of content creation and it was genuinely a coincidence, as hard as that is to believe, and nobody in contact with her is willing to call her out about it.
Or two, it's a cynical bitch move.
Considering her track record I honestly believe the former. She has proven herself to be a genuinely thoughtless and inconsiderate person time and time again.

>>57374099
I will only buy the first explanation if this "manic phase of content creation" includes a bunch of collabs with advent like what happened with council. If she can show us she is genuinely excited about the new girls beyond a few throwaway comments that would be good. Until then I am going with cynical.

I like how the award brought attention back to how much of a retard Gura is.

>>57358975
*pegasister, be fair

oh my god fuwamoco inspired her to do so much better!!!!!!
>instantly leaves

>>57376314
It's so disingenuous it hurts, how can she go from talking about how inspired she is, how much she wants to make her fans happy, how she wants to stream more and set up collabs and play Minecraft and do projects, and then dive straight into 2 weeks of radio silence. What a fucking psychopath

>>57356998
>Jaiden
lol
lmao even

>>57359832
>endgame
She's a mascot already

>>57363369
lol, stop seething that the other talents aren't up to par. JP has plenty of talents that break 20k regularly. That's a skill issue.

>>57354873
She has a mindset issue and needs therapy.

>>57356959
Ah yes Quality is streaming Jumpscare games...

At least she will come back (also its not hard to tell there will be a new Gura 3D live soon), unlike Vesper and Magni who didn't even try and literally threw any remaining chance of starsEN away.

>>57354873
Correct, but not ironically.

>came back this time explicitly just to avoid any of the new girls potentially being "Gura, but she streams!"
>Gura defense team out in full force
Come on guys, you know you can still like watching her content and admit when she's a shitty person.

>>57360510
I fucking hate the Patriots but you're absolutely retarded if you actually believe this.

>>57354873
>schizo ramblings
kek

>>57351177
NTA, but we can speculate based on comments and likes on her membership posts/videos, which should be unique.

>>57367982
>Doesn't care about the spotlight
>Comes back before Valentine's day
>Comes back when a new EN gen debuts and deliberately overlaps it
Nah she cares about the spotlight

>>57378928
Rather, she cares about making sure nobody ELSE takes the spotlight. Hates the fame, but afraid to lose it.

>>57378928
>Comes back before Valentine's day
she could do some GFE stuff for that stream the same way the whores do but didn't
>Comes back when a new EN gen debuts and deliberately overlaps it
she didn't overlap fuwamoco with her streams tho? unless you genuinely are a retard who believes bijou wasn't just another shitter

>>57377626
JP and EN have two very different audiences

>>57379817
>It is okay that Gura overlapped a new membee, because I have convinced that the person is bad, since Gura can do no wrong
Chumkek cope...

>>57380352
you can take JP out of the picture and the point still stands. git gud

>>57333855
she deserves all the rest she wants for waging and winning the holy war against omegatroon and the homos

>>57380877
>Take out something that matters to my original point
Are you retarded?

>>57380982
>waging and winning the holy war against omegatroon and the homos
Lol she did nothing, Kiara mocking Omega did more to him than Gura ever did

>>57335611
This she's a cunt

>>57373887
Good on ya. If the actually cares, it's hellabout time that she shows it. Even if you assume the worst situation, I think you've given her more than reasonable benefit of doubt. If she doesn't deliver, it's time to drop her.

>>57381183
Your point never mattered, besides, you can't even argue it. You know why? Because you can't prove that the 'audiences' aren't different due to their talent as entertainers. I could easily argue that JPs have higher viewership simply because they are more entertaining. And I actually would, because I watch them, and they are very entertaining.

>>57356959
There's no quality chumtard

She's literally treating streaming as a job aka she's only doing the bare minimum to keep an income and avoid getting fired. The overlap with Advent was intentional to show Cover that she is still relevant and can still milk chum money.

I'd have some sympathy for Gura/hardline chumbuds if she'd put out anything besides paying other people to do stuff for her like produce a solo mini concert or animate her an intro. Her new song is okay...I guess.
But then to show up solely when Hololive's getting some new eyes on it with Advent, stream over them every day, and then fuck off after the honeymoon period?

>>57373887
>if she doesn't come back with some kind of believable excuse
The amount of times she has I can probably count on one finger.
Remember "house hunting" where she fucked off for like 3 weeks or something and then said she didn't end up moving?
Or when she broke her PC for 2 weeks as a $1,000,000 streamer? Or when she got a sunburn so bad she was incapable of posting on Twitter? Or when she said she was fainting, having health issues, and was doing "what she could" and ended up traveling in Japan recording for weeks? Just to name a few. I'm genuinely struggling to think of an issue that either couldn't be resolved by paying someone a few hundred bucks, or by posting on Twitter more than once a month.

I rarely watch Mori, but she and Kiara are often traveling and going to events and kick themselves when they don't miss streams twice in a week

>pregnant (constant breaks, can't stream for long hours)
>Busy becoming pregnant

or simply burnt out and doesn't enjoy streaming unless its react ""content"".

>>57333855
She did the right thing. I don't want her retarded fanbase to be watching the Advent girls. The few decent viewers she gets would have prioritized giving Advent girls a chance instead of watching an ordinary Gura stream. So the only people left watching her while she was overlapping were the undesirable types anyway.

>>57354873
The bitch owes her life to the artist that drew her model.

>>57386868
With m-
Eh, it's Gura. Not sure if it would be the wisest decision.

>>57388263
Ultimately this. Chumbies are awful and I wouldn't wish them upon any of Advent.
Gura not streaming is better for everyone really since Chumbuds will continue to not watch streams and won't pollute other fanbases. I wish she could do this without gimping Advent though.

What do chumpedos do between breaks other than shitting up the board?

>>57389498
Have sex with minors

>>57389498
be on suicide watch but unironically
>>57352952

I find this thread amusing, as it shows an interesting contrast between people having a legitimate issue with a holo, vs the fauna complaint threads which are always just one retard screeching to themself over and over.

"chumbuds", femcels, and incels all align on hating Gura. The seething "chumbuds" are just incels. They are all one and the same. The normal ones leave if they're dissatisfied, or stay because they like her or at least can tolerate it without shitting themselves.

this made my already tainted image of her even worse, she just seems like ana absolute cunt and a nightmare to deal with.
she very clearly purposefully overlapped her streams with bijou who is the only advent girl who could overlap viewers with her since she's also a loli. I'm a bit disappointed but can't say I'm surprised. she always seemed like a bitch and basically everyone who was friends with her has left already and rarely mentions her or collabs with her anyway.

>>57333855
I bet Gura and Advent is like Bob Dylan and his bands these days. They aren't allowed to talk to him and can't interact with him or see him except showtime. They get fired if they even say hi to him or thanks or good show. Gura is a self righteous lazy bitch and will never stream with advent.

>>57391536
I'd rather compare Gura to 90's Hulk Hogan. Hulk was the greatest backstage politician in wrestling and also one of the biggest scumbags.

>>57391305
No, some people are rightfully angry with her overlapping Advent. I don't mind her not streaming or whatever but what she did was a bitch move.

>>57354873
She learned well from Ayame

I liked Gura. Used to be membered. Then I stopped the membership because it wasn't worth it. Still followed her. Still kept with the streams. After advent, I've just moved on to Biboo and some 2views. Gura got me into the rabbithole and her stagnating/hiatuses almost got me out.

>>57334114
Hey I believed you right away, cause I noticed how she kept overlapping with Advent on the most important week of their streaming lives. AND YOU WERE RIGHT. She decided to fuck off after Advent's first week. End result is the jew shark intentionally stole viewers away from Advent.

>>57354873
This 100%.

>>57355088
>>57338118
>>57364063
>>57373887
The worst part of overlapping Council? Council was going through a ton of bullshit, with Sue the Jew Wojcicki being charge of YouTube at the time and taking away subscribers from Council, thinking they were botting. Then Council had to deal with the intense lorefagging as directed by Omega. Then Council had streaming/connection issues with the EN curse. Finally, Omega trying to debut and take away more attention and momentum from the girls.

All of that shit Council went through, then Gura decides to overlap and steal viewers away from them? Especially Sana, who was having the most trouble? That would be a massive sabotage against Council.

I know Sana rarely streamed and had health issues, but I'm starting to think another reason why she rarely streamed is that she was scared of Gura overlapping her and stealing viewers away from her, and decided it wasn't worth it to deal with Gura. Maybe that's another reason why she left Hololive, because she didn't want to deal with Gura's pettiness.

>>57354873
This. What else can we think, when she hasn't told us anything? Big projects? JP Holos release more projects than she does and they stream more.

>>57391945
Then they're fucking retarded because there's no reason to be upset at a streamer streaming for her fans. You are literally saying she should give others her fans, which is prime leech thinking and loser mentality.

>>57392047
anon stop schizoing out you're making the rest of us concerned posters look bad

>>57392193
Hey dumbass, she's streaming for the wrong reasons, cause she views her kouhais as a threat. She's sabotaging them by making viewers think that she'll be back on a regular schedule for good or to feed another lie like "hurr health issue" or "I'm moving". Stop making excuses for Sharkzawa.

>>57392533
>my schizo interpretation is fact
typical schizo moment, keep shitting yourself like always

>>57392609
It's not schizo when she has done this in the past you fucking tard.

>>57392655
she hasn't though, I know you really want to push that narrative but I'm not as dumb as the typical vtard

>>57354873
>She deliberately kneecapped council then ghosted her audience and now she deliberately kneecapped advent and has ghosted her audience again.
Gura and management have been fighting since early 2022. It wasn't a coincidence that HoloEN was a mess for most of that year with multiple radio silent "health breaks". Maybe something will change in the fall or winter.

>>57392775
nta but her only doing long streams when Bijou was doing them convinced me. There's literally no reason to give her the benefit of doubt when she's a notorious promise breaker which is honestly way worse than overlapping with Advent.

>>57393179
>promise breaker
Way to out yourself, faggot. Really enjoyed shitting up the general with your autistic argument over what defines a promise huh?

>>57393358
end your life chumcuck, it's already miserable as is, considering you are here crying over random people shitting on gura.

>>57393483
nobody in this thread is as miserable as you

>>57392193
The only reason she streamed was so less people would watch advent. That's a bitch move no way around it.
You must be like rain man autism to not get that

>>57393127
She needs to graduate.

People cannot into timelines.

>Connect the World
Early July

>Advent debuts
Late July

>Splash Party
Late August

Gura was busy with rehearsal/recording/performing for the concerts, and she only had a break from that when Advent debuted. Then she had to focus on the Summer events.

Gura has some condition that makes her more tired than normal (it can be either autistic burnout, depression, alocholism and/or schizophrenia) and yet she still has enough energy to do events and recordings.

People point at Mori and Kiara but they have the opposite problem. Calli has said she has ADHD which translates into work addiction, while Kiara is a bit narcissistic and so wants to always be on the spotlight.

>>57393358
>>57393483
I don't understand how pointing out that she said she'll be more upfront and her not doing that is wrong? She said she'll do better and hasn't, she made all these big claims about how Advent is inspiring her and apparently, it only inspired her to sit on her ass.
No sweat off my back, but I can say what I like and point out the shittiness of it. This isn't a hug box and her breaking her promises and gimping Advent only to fuck right off again when their buff period is over is just a dick thing to do no matter what you say to convince yourself that it isn't.

>>57393637
There's so many holes in your argument it's hard to imagine it being made in good faith. Other chuubas streamed over Advent and yet you take no issue with that, with some going over buff streams. Also it's her viewers that you're literally trying to leech from, so your argument doesn't even work in the first place. Also there's no proof that it damages long-term viewership in any capacity. Just because they miss a stream doesn't mean they can't catch the vod or catch them live later. If they had any semblance of a passing interest in them they would, otherwise that viewer was simply never interested. You're arguing on like 10 assumptions which have no proof behind them.

>>57393818
You can interpret things in whatever delusional manner you want, but no promises have ever been made.

>>57364063
>Bijou
She overlapped Nerissa by far the most, retard. Low effort schizoposting.

gura still has more streams than ayame so unless she dips below that I think she's doing a-ok

>>57394093
>delusional
she ran out of good faith 2 weeks ago. There's no big medical issue outside of her being an alcoholic and she's either too ashamed or just doesn't care enough about her audience to touch base.

>>57333855
She's from an idol company, you think it's her job to stream everyday? It's not like she's from an entertainment japanese company...
Wait...

>>57364063
Holy threadreader, they don't even have the same timeslot. As usual, the people shitting themselves don't even watch streams.

It wasn't just Council or Advent that she overlapped. I remember in her first year it seemed like she deliberately overlapped NijiEN's debut streams every time they released a new wave, and I recall being really impressed with her determination and efforts to sabotage her competitors' debuts.

She probably got addicted to Baldur's gate and is just one again failing miserably at displaying self-control or communication skills

>>57334114
She is busy doing me. Sorry guys, you can have once a month comeback stream, shower her with money like always so she can spend it on her fuckboy(me)

>>57394386
>pic related
That post is not about who she overlapped the most, its about how blatant the overlap was. Its one thing to overlap and another to specifically extend a stream so that you can keep overlapping.

>>57394809
I can't believe Gura betrayed her kouhais out of jealousy...

>>57394386
>she sabotaged the Reddit bird
Based.

>>57354873
Based. Any other response or explanation to this is just coping. She's not a good person and never was. She's a grifter and a bitch. She doesn't even watch anime. Never had to try for anything and gets praised no matter what she does. It especially pissed me off knowing some members had to apply 3 or more times meanwhile Gura applied once and was automatically in.
I was a day 1 member up until April which was around the time her comments section and chat were a warzone over her absences, during which her response to that was to ban "stream" "streaming" and "ghost". That pushed me over the edge and made me realize she's genuinely just a cunt. I'm still pissed off that she's doing this and getting away with it all and I feel sad for the fans still staying with her hoping it'll get better. It's cruel of her to keep stringing them along.
It's a meme, but at this point she genuinely should just graduate. But she won't, because she's learned she can just keep doing this, do nothing, and live comfortably rich.

>>57395361
Like how can you continue knowing how much pain you're inflicting on your fans that genuinely love you? Absolute cunt. This screenshot was from around may or june. It doesn't even take much effort to calm their worries with a tweet or members post. She's capable of it and has done it before, she just doesn't give a fuck.

>>57394535
Randomly cutting contact with people is a sign of mental illness.

>>57395476
being this dependent on a streamer is unhealthy, you're literally just showing proof of it

>>57395571
>being a chumbud is unhealthy, you're literally just showing proof of it
ftfy, you'd get this kind of reaction from literally every other holo chuuba.

>>57364325
If she didn't stream once in a blue moon there wouldn't be so many eyes on her.

>>57395571
>NOOO you can't love a streamer fucking incel! Why? because... because it's parasocial or whatever

>>57395361
>>57395476

>Gura doesn't stream
why doesnt she tell us whats going on in her life She hates us!! We deserve to know everything!!!"
>Gura communicates on her long break
"why is her break taking so long? <insert schizo rrats here> SHE HATES HER FANS!
See you on the next Gura stream.

>>57395793
What do other chuubas have to do with it? Different people have different characteristics. For example I don't mind Gura's behavior, but would immediately unsub if she did a male collab. Either way, I take responsibility for being in love with someone and leave if they aren't giving me what I want. I don't cry and demand change.
>>57395886
>demanding from them is loving them
incel moment

>2 homos get suspended, probably already known internally that they're getting canned
>gura returns
>holizontal bullshit starts
>gura leaves
She's making power moves against management

>>57396124
>this much cope
I'm sorry for baiting in this thread, I had no idea it was that bad...

>>57395476
>my main source of happiness
bruh.
Also lmao that first comment.

>chum buds on suicide watch again

this is a weekly thing now?

>>57396204
who said anything about demanding? go back to xitter shitposter

>unironic fuwamoco domination

Imagine getting replaced by two leafs

>>57396337
because you're justifying shitting yourself over not getting communication and streams (what you want) because of 'love', and I'm saying that's not love but selfishness

>>57336910
Be nice to Kanauru, he's one of the hardest working guys in the industry.

...unlike Gura.

>>57396655
I hope he gets paid well at least.

>>57392193
It's her right to retain her fans obviously; but she also should respect them enough to actually do content for them. The only prime leech is her: hoarding attention of fans which could use their time and money better on a talent which would actually appreciate them.

>>57333855
Yeah, what's going on?
Everyone is confused!

>>57396967
Nobody is hoarding attention you schizo, people have already seen their debuts and some of their content. The number of people that tune in varies massively from the game choice alone. They're not retarded, they know what interests them. EVEN during the week she was streaming, Bijou had an entire hour of streamtime before Gura's timeslot. If you don't think that's enough time for people to make a decision you're insane.

>>57397282
Nah, I think people - especially chumbuds - are retards. If Gura wouldn't stream, and starved chumbuds would try out Advent girls, some of them would definitely leave and never look back. Simply because there are girls out there which... are streaming, duh.

Gura had to jump in to prevent the leak. Sure, go for it; but at least get commited to your job and start doing what you are supposed to do. But oh well, I guess I would do the same in her place. Chumbuds are retards, after all. They are going to pay for memberships and merch, because it's sunken fallacy at this point.

>>57397533
This will only encourage lazy whores to grow. Ayame did it now Gura is doing it. Who else will follow? Nobody if Cover would just terminate Gura for lack of streaming/failure to do your job.

>>57395361
>>57395476
ok Mas0n

>>57395476
>she just doesn't give a fuck.
based Goob

>>57354873
>She doesn't care about her fans, she doesn't care about the company than made her what she is and she doesn't care about the health of the industry as a whole.
wtf I love Gura now

>>57397674
loli fans like chum buds rather theirm oshi didnt stream, how can you imagine what your dream girl will sound like when being fucked by giant mantis men if shes laughing at beetle jokes?

>>57397533
Gura is just the vtuber equivalent of a weg dev with a patreon.

>>57397533
There were literal days where she didn't stream during debut week, so your argument holds no water. In fact, you could argue that Gura being active benefited Advent out of the fact that fans that were otherwise uninterested would be actively engaged with Hololive during that time, and watch other streamers on her off days. Stop coping so hard, leechmind.

>>57397993
If that were true then she would have raided and promoted Advent more. Instead of streaming over Bijou how about end your stream early and send your viewers over to her stream. Instead she hotshots her kouhais and dips out as soon as the debut buff is over.

>>57398467
>things that never happened
That's the thing with schizos, at best they can only point at their schizo interpretations as 'proof'.

>>57397674
Cover doesn't care as long as money is flowing.

>>57397674
Ayame isn't even that lazy. She does a boatload of promotional stuff and is very frequent in other 3D Lives. Her merch also sells like fucking hotcakes no matter what it is. Gura's merch also flies off the shelf but she does fuck all to promote Hololive other than being cute.

>>57399065
This is the divide from Myth as a whole and the rest of EN.
They very much take a hired gun approach and never really embraced the team mindset that makes this kind of setup work.

>>57333855
She just wanted to make sure her fans were still whipped and didn't move on to the new girls so she streamed a bunch over their crucial growth period and now the chumbies will be sustained for the next year of silence

>>57333855
She's basically just the company mascot that they roll out to shill merch and create some buzz occasionally. Hard to care about someone who makes it clear how little they care about you the fan. She even acknowledged that it wasn't right to ghost the way she does and would be better literally before doing it again. I'm over it.

>>57399286
I hate how true this is

At least Ayame and Aqua were fucking honest with their fans and said that they'd be streaming a lot less. Gura keeps promising Chumbuds that she'll get back into the swing of things once her projects and shit are over and it's been nearly a year and a half since these "projects" happened that were preventing her from streaming regularly.

>>57395886
How are you not ashamed and embarrassed as a human being for "loving" some random stranger woman you don't know pretending to be a cartoon character? Do you not think you should place a shotgun to your temple?

>>57395476
No wonder she avoids Chumbuds, I would too

>>57354873
Based. When someone shows you who they are, BELIEVE THEM

>>57388598
That goes for all of them kek

>>57401380
nah shes unironically a small woman in real life like kobo so chum buds have loli fantasies

>>57396905
they hire him often enough that he should be loaded

>>57333855
She's holding the entire company hostage because she's too big to fail and graduating her might mean the death of hololive

>>57402337
nah just the eng branch, everyone like fuwumoco already speak japanese so they would just go join holojp

eng branch should die anyways

>>57400035
hey, those two animated videos and the intro took loads of work for her. I still chuckle when I remember she said we'd be seeing the intro a lot

>>57403189
I still can't believe she said that she thought full color might be released by last december, and here we are still only having heard it once at a paid concert.

>>57402337
>>57402558
If Coco could graduate and Hololive survived that than Gura could too and Hololive could survive it. Graduating her because she's too depressed to stream might be a yab but it wouldn't be THE yab

>>57403656
Gura was way more liked than Coco trust me it would not be the same if they lost Gura. If they lose her it would bankrupt them and when they realize that and try and get her back they would then have lost so much money it would not be funny so trust me if they fired her they would undo all of that in about a month and a half after doing so.

>>57403484
I forgot about that song

>>57403812
>If they lose her it would bankrupt them
Gura is worth a lot of money and certainly enough money to let her fuck off for months without a word but she would not undo Hololive or even kill EN.
It certainly wouldn't bankrupt them, that's just absurd.

>>57360627
I don't know what your acronym stands for and I don't care enough about you nor respect you enough to learn.

>>57360510
>Patriots are a dynasty with Brady + Belichick
>Brady leaves

>Patriots are now complete shit
>The Bucs win the SB the first year with Brady
Hmm

>>57403812
Thanks for the laugh. People seem to forget that JP is still the main branch. EN might take a hit but even they would survive.

>>57333855
fucking bitch

>>57404226
Then he lost the next two seasons, blew up his marriage in the process, and retired.

I like gura because she is exactly what people complained about when it came to female twitch streamers and e-girls. The difference is, the gura character is so powerful that it makes people ignore the things they would never find acceptable. Just think about it
Not streaming is the norm.
Only streams when there is an event or something big happening aka time to milk the viewers
Go away for months
Repeat
If anyone else did this, vtuber or irl streamer, no one here would ever defend them and would actually call people stupid for not seeing what's actually happening.
Ironic how gura created the one thing the vtuber audience mocked the most.

>>57398676
Anon, you can look at the CCV numbers of Bijou on her elden ring streams, you'll see this massive drop at about the 20 minute mark of when her stream started. That's when Gura starts her stream. Then you can look at their finish times. Gura almost always finishes within minutes of Bijou ending her stream.

It's clear that Gura targeted Bijou the most because Bijou is the genuine threat to Gura's loli market. Add in the fact Bijou is actually good at games and does longer streams, Gura is correct that she might take away some of her memberships.

The Gurakiller was Gura all along?...

>>57404426
The loss of Gura wouldn't bankrupt cover but it would be like McDonald's losing the Big Mac. The business would still do well but a disproportionate amount of goodwill is tied to Gura and if Gura graduated, regardless of what she would say, people would blame Cover for not licking her boots enough to make her stay.

>>57412060
he also lost a ton of money on crypto

>>57362410
Holy shit it's 2007 all over again

>>57414159
Gura didn’t invent that. If anything the first holo, the actual pioneer of those ways is ayame. After ayame followed shion and then aqua. Gura is just mimicking them.

>Feels threatened by Biboo
>Hates Shiori since she hates Hololive just as much as Mori
>Avoids FWC as they're too cringe
>Nerissa? I guess she sings a bit better

These are the rrats anon.

>>57376283
Shut up brony

>>57415033
Nah, because Ayame, Aqua and Shion don't give their fans false hope. They said they would start streaming less and do more things off stream (which they actually do and actually show results.) Gura constantly keeps her chumbuds on a strand of hope, stating that she'll get back into the swing of streaming again and about all the cool stuff she has planned for future streams and tons of projects she's working on that chumbuds would like and there have been absolutely fucking NOTHING. Ayame, Shion and Aqua have released far more covers, original songs, and done more 3D Live appearances than Gura. They've also been in a hell of a lot more collabs with other members too. Gura has literally gaslit her fanbase into believing that she's going to return to the good ole days where she enjoyed streaming a bunch of horror kusoges and rhythm games but it's been more than a year and nothing to show for it. It's fucking sad is what it is.

>>57415033
Yeah, but I'm talking more about the EN side because when vtubers were starting to take off that was what the EN side specifically used to support their claims that vtubers were better. Gura is everything the EN/western or whatever community mocked.

>>57415033
THIS IS WHY THEY NEED TO BE FIRED! Its only going to get worse and Yagoo or whoever needs to make a fucking example.

>>57415515
I can barely agree with aqua but if you think ayame or shion have achieved something… well, playing fps with males off stream is something.

>>57415820
If you're going to count roommate gaming then Gura's going to look even worse than she already does so I'd be careful if you want to go down that road.

The seethes in this and every other gura anti thread are invalid
Since Yagoo himself is proud of gura
https://twitter.com/tanigox/status/1696761297906581550

>>57416521
Yagoo is proud of literally everyone in both Hololive and Holostars, do you think he's a good representation in all this?

is only vtuber, why you heff to be mad?

>>57416739
but YAGOO stopped by Gura's karaoke

>>57414159
To add to this, even the defense people run to defend gura is the same as what irl streamers and e-girls fans use. Everything played out so perfectly kek

>>57417587
Gura could have more merch and she would still be a thousand times better than the e-girls who show their tits on stream since she never begs for anything. I will be a raging anti the moment she begs for money.

>>57333855
well she dont like to stream or anime or the community but she likes the money.

>>57333855
My understanding is that Gura's viewers have little overlap with the rest of EN. Like, a significant number of viewers ONLY show up when Gura streams, and don't bother checking out her coworkers when she's not streaming. If anything, her streaming during Advent's debut weeks were an attempt to remind her viewers that other HoloEN streamers exist, particularly the new Advent.

Could just be me coping, though. Gura's in 3D events, so of course she's still working in the background.

>>57379129
She loves the good things that the fame brought her (money)

>>57415515
>Ayame, Shion and Aqua have released far more covers, original songs
Gura has only 2 solo songs (1 unreleased), and 1 solo shill cover, she has to be dragged into other Holomems' songs.
She's the reverse Pitbull/Flo Rida of Hololive

>>57414252
Just like WoW, the only things that can kill industry giants are themselves

>>57364063
Lies. There wasn't a hiatus before council. Her first big hiatus was in 2022.

Gura is the queen of CGDCT and therefore aboves all criticisms. If you want to shit on Holo go and shit on Kronii and Ame instead

>>57422404
Fuwamoco have taken that title.

>>57421819
you don't understand, gura antis on this board mad because they know that nothing can touch Gura and her legacy and no matter what Gura herself does. Gura is the opposite of the word 'flamboyant' and yet she's constantly stealing the spotlight, contrarian niggers and 2view whores sure hate that

>>57394476
kek

>>57423117
It's almost funny, Gura (the streamer) is now less popular than Gura (the symbol). No matter what Gura (the streamer) does, she cannot outshine Gura (the symbol). I don't know how I'd feel about the symbol of myself becoming more popular than my actual self.

>>57423469
I mean at this point I think it's pretty clear how Gura feels about it

>>57423469
Gura (the symbol) can only exist as-is because Gura (the streamer) does nothing, so the symbol in her fans' minds hasn't been shattered.

>>57415515
honestly ayame, aqua and shion could do the same shit gura does but it just wouldnt be as bad as her because theyre not the top vtubers of all time, they dont hold a monoply on the mental market share of the vtuber community the same way gura does and there for dont hold the whole industry back with their more laid back take on streaming.
>>57423469
she basically set herself up to just be a symbol by not trying to keep the symbol and the streamer intertwined.
she let herself become only a symbol and now she has to live with it.

>>57414442
This was true back in 2021 and early 2022. If Gura had graduated earlier and unexpectedly then EN would have been fucking doomed and Cover takes a big hit.
But with your own McDonald's analogy, it's like if the Big Mac was taken off the menu for months at a time, with McDonald's saying absolutely nothing about it. Then a bunch of new options are put on the menu, then bringing it back for 2-5 days one week, saying "uwu sorry we'll try better" and then taking it right off the menu again for another few months. When it happens so often like that, once they announce that it's off the menu forever no one gives a shit anymore, they either already stopped eating at McDonald's or just order something else.

>>57425961
That kind of sounds like how All Day Breakfast went

>>57426282
i was SO fuming when they took away all day breakfast. aint nobody got time to wake up at 9am for a mcgriddle.

>>57426516
Fast food breakfast is disgusting. They need to do all day lunch. I want a burger and nuggets for breakfast not wait until 11am.

>>57395476
IS THERE SOMEONE WHO IS STILL A MEMBER HERE?

If you are member, just cancel it.. I really do believe nothing's gonna change because this is the third time already..

>>57395476
let go move on it's the healing process kicking in go while it's to late anons.....

>>57333855
Gura unironically did nothing wrong midvent fags keep seething.

Yep, that's my girl. She dropped by to let the new whores know who's boss

There's a million different reasons she could have done what she did. We'll never know for sure. We'll never really get to the bottom of it or figure out why she decided to only stream during Advent's debut week and then fuck off again. That's just a bunch of hypothetical thinking that won't lead anywhere and you know it.

But wow is it funny that she did that. She chose to come back only during their debut week and then proceed to peace out again. That's some crazy people shit.

Meh, Gura can do what she does, so she will. If doing what she does makes her the most money for the least effort then she's winning at Vtubing. I cancelled my membership back in May because it just didn't hold any value anymore, but I still enjoy her streams when she does come back.

>>57354873
At this point is undeniable, but what made it blatant was she came back to overlap Advent literally DAILY.
Every time the shark bitch "came back" that meant one stream every 3 to 4 days after 10 to 2 week gaps of radio silence.
Gura is a terrible shitty person.

>>57427565
Dont you remember the first stream after her birthday? there's a BINGO CARD for the summer festival.. Its not about advent, its about the summer festival, it ended, she ended, simple as that

I guess she tried to complete the bingo card, but got burnt-out again, lmao

>>57422404
How do chumbuds cope with this after she whore herself to MatPat to win the Streamy Award?

if you guys have so many questions, why don't you just ask /ggg/? you do know a lot of her longtime paypigs reside there right

>>57427565
>There's a million different reasons

>>57391421
Kiara is still her friend

>>57429046
MatPat is a chumbud

how many times have i seen this exact fucking thread jannies do your fucking job

>>57430360
Jannies wont do anything.. /vt/ is dead without these kinds of threads

>>57395361
>Ever watching tranime.

>>57395476
Those people are creepy af.

>>57354873
>bad person
yeah "doing her job" is definitely some type of sin
lets ignore the fact that Mumei was a schizo who harassed Kiara for almost a year and her campaign includes sending gore pics to Kiara
or that Kiara is a menhera bitch who often threatened her coworkers with terrible things
or that Ame agreed with Kiara knowing full well about those terrible things Kiara did to her coworkers
or that Kronii couldn't tard wrangle her fans and felt the need to drag Cover and holoEN as a whole into her own matters
or that Sana, Magni and Vester were quitters who used hololive as a stepping stone
or that Ina gradually kills holoEN with her nepo hires

totally not biased here

>>57431000
>SEAnigger not being able to see through the kayfabe and making funny rrats

Why am I not surprised?

>>57404065
>>57402337
If she went over to Vshojo, EN is toasted though.

Thats my girl. Putting these whores in their place. Especially the snobby bitch with the disgusting annoying upper mif west accent for trying to take Gura's timeslot

>>57430360
What rule is this thread breaking?

Full Color soon!

Is she menhera from the pressure of being Gura?
She keeps trying to come back but then has to go on long breaks as if she burns out on only a few days of streaming.

>>57431470
Losing Gura would be devastating to Hololive. Remember, not only do they get a cut of her membership bux (around $180k per month by one anon's estimate), they also get merch sales, concerts, and licensing deals like SachiHappy. Not surprising that these events have been the only times they put their foot down and make her stream or sing something.
But that's just the financial side. There are bigger effects, like the fact that whatever agency scoops her up would get a massive instant boost overnight, HoloEN's morale would crash to an all-time low, the seiso family illusion would be permanently shattered, and some of the more rebellious EN/ID girls might decide to follow suit. Depending on the circumstances Gura leaving Hololive could be the seventh-trumpet event that destroys HoloEN.
I'm not defending her actions but firing her is the one thing they can never, ever, ever do. And she seems to be aware of that.

>>57434044
>SachiHappy
As ive said again and again, there are too many retarded anons business-wise here. lmao

why are you guys assuming that Gura graduating means Cover is firing her and not...just her leaving HoloEN on her own terms?

>>57431000
>He believes the Mumei is Orcschizo rrat

>>57393961
"Nooooo Anon you are being logical and making sense on how overlapping is retarded and it doesnt affect growth!! You should just nodded and call Gura a Bitch Nooooo"

>>57434657
We are not assuming. People on this thread are asking for her head. We are explaining why this is impossible.

>>57394809
If that's true, then we should love Gura. Fuck Nijiggers.

>>57333855
>>57354873
gonna cry?

>>57356730
>Filian
I can get being upset that whoever you like lost to someone who doesn't fucking stream but Filian? Really? Her only claims to fame are intentional "glitches" to flash her panties all the time and throwing herself on the floor with shitty ragdoll physics.

But Gura? By what fucking metric? Just subscriber count? I'd accept fucking Mori "white-girl-summer" over Gura on the basis that at least she fucking streams and does other shit.

>>57434044
>I'm not defending her actions but firing her is the one thing they can never, ever, ever do.
you are MASSIVELY over inflating her worth. If she broke an NDA or something else that was a severe breach of contract than I have 0 doubt that they'd graduate her even if they didn't want to. Nobody is so close to Gura that I could see a multiple walk out scenario and while morale would be low I really don't see it as being catastrophic. Cover is certainly not financially dependent on Gura despite how much money her face brings in
Hell, Gura making the decision to graduate herself probably wouldn't even be seen as a bad thing by the general public considering she clearly lacks the energy to stream and barely does so anyways. If she joined another agency just to do the same thing, you might actually see some public flak against her.

>>57333855
she's sad that vesper and magni graduated before she could collab with them.

>>57436932
>I'd accept fucking Mori

Yeah, Mori is kinda cool. Working with different cool people, streaming in a normal rhythm, very calm and relaxing for her viewers, while still knows where her real self starts and just genuinely tries to be herself, while keeping at least some layers of kayfabe. She is alright. AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE? SHE IS ACTUALLY STREAMING BALDUR'S GATE 3 RIGHT NOW WITH KIARA AND NERISSA!

>>57438114
oh, sorry, also with Bijou, our beloved sunny (stone + cunny)

vtwitter fags behaviour

>>57356959
There's no quality with that whore's streams.

>>57414159
Gura's popularity scares the shit out of me. One woman out there with so much e-clout, she can perform psychological ops on simps for a living. It is the kind of neo-cyber-simping I imagine when I think of a white plastic pseudo-utopia of super-cyber-simps living in sole pursuit of attention from e-girls. Wild shit.