/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>57284293
Mori being on Trash Taste is a sign it was already successful. They won't let people on unless they can leech

>>57284351
Nowadays with their revolving door of shitty fortnite streamers or whatever, 100%. In the early days it was just interesting people near them in Japan

HoloEN was already getting 20k+ ccv regularly with Gura being 40k+ ccv when this shit came out. Claiming this had anything to do with it getting big in the West is blatant revisionism.

Yes.
Coco helped it.

>>57284293
What? Western vtubing was set back several months because of this.

>>57284475
Not this shit again

>>57284293
Myth is the result of vtubing becoming big in the west, not the cause.

>>57284293
no they are still cunts

>>57284604
Clipwatching isn't the same thing

>>57284293
No, ironic weeaboos do not correlate disproportionately with Gura's success.

>>57284475
Coco was a net negative for Hololive by a wide margin.

>>57284293
Considering all those people in the picture and their fans infamously hate vtubers, I don't know what you could possibly think this did to help vtubing except create a reactionary backlash against it that then inspired a contrarian embracing of it?

>>57285102
One of those people is a vtuber, has vtuber friends, and is dating a vtuber. does hate hololive tho

>>57284293
Western vtubing was pretty big even before HoloEN was a thing. My first exposure to vtubers was someone mentioning Projekt Melody's Chaturbate streams in the chat of a random streamer I was watching.

>>57285172
I don't keep up with these people's current events, you could tell me the three amigos all died in an accident years ago or that they all married their vtuber dakimakuras and I'd believe you either way. But they were reactionaries against vtubing initially and any embracing of it later was contrarian at best. Calling anything like that vtubing really defeats the whole premise of vtubing to begin with. You could say it contributed to the idea that vtubing in the West was never going to be anything like JP. It's not like when Laplus interviewed Robert Pattinson, her roommate actually met him. Even Kiara who is one of the most open and proud e-girls in vtubing still did her podcasts with the local people she knew on a giant screen while they sat around in person.

>>57284293
The really amazing thing is how many people simply gave Mori a pass for destroying any barrier between her real self and her vtuber persona. She really started here and just didn't give a shit about it but then Mouse calls her the wrong name on stream and clippers act like this was a giant yab at the time when the kayfabe didn't exist at all at that point so of course Mouse simply forgot herself.

>>57284953
Thanks for your input, zhang.

>>57285424
That's like saying someone's an otaku because they click the hentai category on pornhub sometimes

>>57284293
Yes, next thread.

>>57284293
>trash taste
Go back and don’t come back

>>57285793
I bet you liked Coco's reddit content.

>>57286037
I always found her to be overrated but you need to unserstand for Ken-samas, a japanese woman giving them any direct attention in english at all with their style of toilet humor was an incredble feeling for them, it made them feel special. That feeling is gone now so we can all shit on Kson for being a fleshtuber whore now.

>Setting aside the later drama, would vtubing have taken off in the west without this video?
oh is that where miko saying the gamer word came from? or was this the eekum bookum animation? i can't remember.

Have they ever tried leeching off someone who promptly tells them to fuck off?

>>57286271
Ame.

>>57284293
yes,newfag

>>57285793
Appending, stop pretending that trash taste has done fucking anything for hololive or the community. All they've done is cause problems because of Mori and Connor, and the few fans hololive grew out of this podcast are probably the same that helicopter the official subreddit and hugbox it with Tempus now.

>>57285172
>dating a vtuber
you are a moron

>>57286401
>Moving the goalposts

i can feel it in my bones
this is a poorly diguised henya seethe thread

>>57286037
Nope
>>57286401
Tldr, go back

>>57284293
who fucking cares

>>57285742
Sorry but not everyone worships your reddit flesh streamer whore that shaves her pussy on stream. Fuck her and fuck the zhangs too. Hololive got rid of two cancers with the Taiwan yab.

>>57284293
I literally have no idea who any of these people are.

>>57286728
take your pills mahmoud

>>57286401
Joey is the one who tried to cause a moral panic about Nene of all people. Try to pretend you care about vtubers and not just Vshojo.

>>57286736
Hime's grandma's husband, Ironmouse's boyfriend, and a hasbeen

>>57286866
Nene? qrd?

>>57286728
Hey, don't forget what she did to Rushia.

>>57286931
She was featured on a list of most beautiful women in Weekly Playboy and he was outraged about it being another proof of the decline of Japanese civilization.

>>57287092
Isn't he the outspoken unironic lolicon? Not that there's anything wrong with that. He is really the factor that makes that show unwatchable

>>57284293
Trashtaste are clout chasers. The episode wouldn't have happened if they didn't feel like leeching off of Holo

>>57286565
Why would anyone be seething about Henya?

>>57284604
Fucking 2views. Stop posting on our board you nonholo fuck.

>>57284293
Who?
Also I'm pretty sure Coco was the reason why talent was being found in the West.

>>57284293
I've never even seen this video before. Been watching Hololive since Korone's debut btw.

>>57287373
>our
Go away

>>57286866
Proof?

>>57287508
>Our
Yes.
You nonholos are the subhumans of this board. Problem?

>>57287317
Trashtaste reminds me of those small critic groups, they think they are making a difference but they are far removed from popular culture they are in their own little bubble of their creation.

>>57287548
>I don't know how to search for a youtube video, but if you link it to me I will watch it
Kill yourself.

>>57287622
This video has more than double the views of any of Mori's streams.

>>57284293

>>57288169
It's kind of funny that their "only in person" policy seems explicitly designed to keep her off the show.

>>57284509
this HAS to be bait, it just sounds to retarded to not be bait
but i'll bite
pls elaborate, what makes you think this
>>57284604
who the fuck would say otherwise lol
>>57286401
>problems because of Mori and Connor
are these problems in the room with us right now?
>>57288221
based if true

>>57284293
>trash taste
Literally only faggots and redditphiles are the only ones who watch these leeches. If you are one of those that watch them consider killing yourself right now because there is no hope for you.

>>57288221
Why do they have an only in person policy?

>>57284293
I can't believe there are subhumans who watch this shite

>>57288298
It's obvious the policy exists to stop it from becoming a zoom podcast like all the others since it kills the dynamic but it just happens to also coincide with their stance on vtubers not being real.

>>57288285
why the nonsensical hate? did they reject your collab proposal? just get out of your 1view territory and surely you can just ask them again

>>57288298
Their stated reason is so they can "vibe" with the person. At the beginning maybe it made sense since they were interviewing locals about japan shit and people visiting japan, but now that they are a 90% shitty zoomer-streamer interview channel, I don't see how it makes a difference.

>>57287933
Filipino babies entry to Japan content, I barf. Why don't you shove down my throat Minecraft content is superior while you're at it.

>>57284293
what drama

>>57288428
>also coincide with their stance on vtubers not being real.
but they had an episode in which they talked about several different chuubas and who they like and so on
don't just believe anything you read /here/ from the 2 schizos that hate trash taste because connor couldn't fulfill their cuck fetish

>>57284419
/thread

>>57288577
retards got mad when mori showed up in connors twich chat
unicorns instantly threw their usual tantrum
nothing noteworthy

>>57288615
Liking "vtubers" and liking vtubers aren't even remotely the same thing. Most people on this board love "vtubers" but the existence of a vtuber as basic as Fuwamoco results in a seething hatred.

>>57288727
nta but I wanted to expand on this. There's vtubers and there's avatar streamers. Fuwamoco are vtubers in the purest sense, someone like Kson is an avatar streamer.

>>57286728
Why didn't they manage to get rid of you being cancer yet then

>>57284293
Doesn't the white guy hate manga and anime and thinks JP culture should be more liberal and westernized in general or something?

>>57288577
>>57288724
That is wrong. People were mad because Connor said holomems were only successful because of the hololive branding and implied they were shit streamers.

Then people asked Mori to not associate with him because of that stance, and she "owned the haters" by posting a comic of her fucking Connor (yes, really)

>>57288169
Their "relationship" is more fake than Micomets business relationship (atleast those are genuine friends). He's 100% fucking the porn thot.

>>57284293
kys EN baby
imagine thinking these ironic "weeboos" had any impact on the whole hobby

>>57288888
He is the normalfag of the group but he doesn't hate anime or manga.

>>57288934
>He's 100% fucking the porn thot
Eh, even he must have some kinda standards who he fucks.

>>57288888
that's the rrat /here/ but after checking out a random vid from him to form my own educated opinion instead of letting literal retards online form my opinion for me, i can safely say that's completely made up BS
>>57288900
>People were mad because Connor said holomems were only successful because of the hololive branding
well, that IS true, i've seen literal god-tier chuubas who never went above 50 viewers despite being better, funnier, more entertaining then any holo chuuba
> "owned the haters" by posting a comic of her fucking Connor (yes, really)
yes i've seen that, pure kino, retards going instant ballistic over this was fun to watch
but no sane / normal person had a problem with that, schizos /here/ cried and reddit did their reddit thing, nobody cared

>>57288934
>He's 100% fucking the porn thot.
1000 % obvious if you watched his videos, also mouse watched it, saw them interact & she has woman senses. She 10000 % knows he's fucking the porn whore

>>57288934
Mouse can't fuck and the pornstar isn't exclusive. I imagine that she holds a tablet with a video call to mouse over her face when they bang, pinch hitter style

>>57289196
Some people give a shit about idol culture. Go back to twitch

>>57288934
lmao imagine fucking a confirmed loose used goods

>>57284293
Miko said nigger was the start

>>57288934
>He's 100% fucking the porn thot.
is that actually true with links for proof, or just a rrat like >>57288888 ?

>>57287373
>2views
Vtubing boom in the west was caused by Miko and Coco long before Myth you retard.

>>57289622
>Vtubing boom in the west was caused by Miko and Coco long before Myth you retard.
roru
rumao

>>57289290
Clips aside, western audiences were never going to watch JP streams. Vtubing didn't "make it" here until we started getting EN vtubers

>>57289286
>Some people give a shit about idol culture
i also know of the existence of retards, parasocials and pedos
doesn't mean i have to participate in your delusions lol
>>57289286
>Go back to twitch
barely use twitch, i prefer youtube, but thanks for the recommendation

>>57289562
Mouse and Connor don't spam that relationship BS they've spun anymore. Connor is definitely fucking Japanese chicks and the cripple can't compete so c'est la vie. He was probably fucking before as well honestly.

>>57287092
>>57287258
It wasn't that exactly, it was some male feminist slant like
>this is a bad example for real girls because anime girls are perfect muh self esteem issues!
Or some fucking retarded shit. Thing is, the list with Nene wasn't about sexappeal but rather what products she buys (like cosmetics) because it was a list of top jap female consumer influencers.
So he didn't even check what the article was about, just assumed it was about physical appearance rather than what cream or perfume she buys.
Clickbait mongrel.

>>57290019
inb4 you get called a tranny

>>57288888
Pretty much. Guy can't go 2s without attempting to inject some podded take or libshit bs his zoomed ass was indoctrinated with in some shitty welsh school. It's tiresome.

I used to like trash taste when it was actually them discussing anime and japan but pretty quickly it's just become a way for them to just air their grievances and whine about shit.

>>57290647
>Mouse and Connor don't spam that relationship BS they've spun anymore.
i didn't notice that, never watched a mouse stream and it's been a while since i've seen a connor stream desu
>Connor is definitely fucking Japanese chicks
>He was probably fucking before as well honestly.
yes of course, i never assumed he and mouse were actually dating, just logistical speaking, how would that even have worked
>>57291008
tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling you don't know what you're talking about

>>57291270
>tell me you don't know what you're talking about without telling you don't know what you're talking about
I do know you nigger because I actually used to watch the show a year or more ago. Garnt, the only likeable and sensible one, had to keep steering the topic back from whatever extraneous "current thing" the welsh manlet decided he was an expert on that day. Never related to anime, japan or anything they were actually discussing just some reddit tier current affairs people who are watching such a podcast don't fucking want to deal with.
It was incredibly boring with this trash bringing this shit up out of nowhere, the hafu just sitting there in between because they're a pussy and can't handle conflict, and the other guy trying and failing to keep some semblance of professionalism up so that their backers wouldn't pull the plug because of some dumb shit connor said.

I stopped watching when connor decided it was a good idea to invite some fucking literal who chris-chan expert on the show. What the fuck was that shit? If you kept watching after that you are truly retarded.

>>57291707
I would still argue Joey is much worse.

>>57291707
not denying connor's tangents or derailings whatsoever, but the rrat >>57288888
is still false, no matter how you want to take it

>faggots unironically arguing about fleshbags
The absolute state of /vt/

>>57288888
Until I saw the replies I thought you were talking about the other white guy given that's what his rants always were.

>>57284293
I have no idea what is this video or who those people are.

I started watching vtubers because one of them streamed Elden Ring and and was entertaining.

>>57291948
Joey is an insufferably smug faggot who thinks he's a lot smarter than he is. Connor just seems like someone with zero actual convictions and just says whatever he thinks will ingratiate himself to the Twitter sphere.

Garnt is the only true weeb there but his humour is kind of stuck in the late 2000s YouTube era.

>>57284293
I just don't know how we got to a point where these three faggots carry such a large amount of authority in the anime community.

>>57284293
No because >>57284351 fpbp
and you would have to be a cuckbeat high on copium to believe that TT was the cause of Vtubing taking off

>>57292657
You are even a newfag for those people that got into vtubers around the time that video dropped

I do watch Gigguk sometimes, he's pretty good.

That being said, the other 2 fuckers being there make that podcast the worst fucking thing in ther planet, and if that episode somehow got a few TTfags to watch Hololive, I would politely ask those fags to off themselves immediately since the thought of breathing the same air as them is so grating.

>>57293913
might as well get your rope than bro, because i got sad news for you

>>57284293
This video brought in too many fans who don't understand the appeal of Vtubing in the first place.
Deadbeats should have gatekept them out but they let them take root and infest their upper echelons

>>57284293
Vtubing could never and will never be bigger than what it was a few months after holoen.
Everyone in the world that uses the internet for something other than instagram knows what a vtuber is, they just think it’s retarded and their fans are subhuman. The viewer base is fully saturated. Anybody that could be a fan was already a fan.

>>57294166
*like the good old days after 9/11

>>57284351
FPBP

>>57294166
>Vtubing could never and will never be bigger than what it was a few months after holoen.
>Everyone in the world that uses the internet for something other than instagram knows what a vtuber is, they just think it’s retarded and their fans are subhuman. The viewer base is fully saturated. Anybody that could be a fan was already a fan.
you.. you do know it's grown every year since then right..? it's literally bigger today than it was yesterday.

>>57284604
Why did it become big in the west?

>>57284293
Kill yourself

>>57292697
>Joey is an insufferably smug faggot who thinks he's a lot smarter than he is. Connor just seems like someone with zero actual convictions and just says whatever he thinks will ingratiate himself to the Twitter sphere.
fucking true

>>57284351
fpbp
One week they talk about how stupid vtubing and its fans are, a couple weeks later they are talking about how great it is and their favorites.

>>57294166
>they just think it’s retarded and their fans are subhuman.
which is true desu

i don't see gura or coco

Was her RM successful after joining connor's circle?
They don't have that kind of influence.

>>57285102
They really don't. They just hate Hololive EN culture, and rightfully so

>>57284293
As multiple other anons have already said, it was already successful by the time Trash Taste had her on. You're giving those fags way too much credit.

>>57301018
Hololive fans and culture are garbage, indies, vshojo fans are cool.
It's not hard to figure it out.

>>57295878
All of the growth has been in indies and small corpos.

I am grateful to mori.
In exchange for her musical career, she proved that Twitch is the graveyard of dreams.
Without the hololive brand, she is just a connor simp and no more talented than that. She will continue to do sponsored streams of cosmetics for Tiktoker.

>>57286728
>Sorry but not everyone worships your reddit flesh streamer whore that shaves her pussy on stream. Fuck her and fuck the zhangs too. Hololive got rid of two cancers with the Taiwan yab.

>>57284293
It already was taking off. They latched on while it was early to boost their subpar podcast.

>>57303085
Is this an Ai post?

u don't know how shit tt reddit was when connor and mori drama was a thing. even nowadays their "fans" are allergic to hololive now. i can see why ironmouse are popular.

>>57284293
they are basically what people called as leech. look at what happened to ollie. they abandoned her the moment she become irrelevant

>>57303568
In 2020, Twitch had a lot of simps of the platform itself.

>>57284351
I’ve always hated TT for being the most ironic weeb pandering shit on the internet.

>>57284293
No it was already fine, trash taste should’ve fucked off. Instead we got ironic weebs following and people who didn’t know shit. Mori was a retard to go on that show, connor is a faggot who gets pegged by ironlung every week, that stupid Asian is a stupid Asian, and Joey is also a faggot

>>57302949
Yeah I’m so cool because I don’t watch the EPL, I watch the 5th league between two plumber teams and call myself such a real fan because I’m watching garbage.

>>57284293
Trash Taste are all ironic weebs. Gigguk is a faggot who is ashamed to have ever been an otaku and constantly goes out of his way to avoid it; Anime Man will literally talk about everything /but/ anime while shilling hentai like a sperg; and CDawgVA is a fucking cuckold who actively denigrates people who enjoy anime, since he genuinely sees himself as being above them. All of these guys have one thing in common and that's that they fucking despise the very medium they claim to be authorities on.

I mean look at the fucking title of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_51k5WbJPzQ Then look at the topics they discuss: Raising children, team sports, cooking, and then... Final Fantasy? No anime to be seen, just a bunch of grifting cunts who got too comfy and now use their podcast to bitch and moan about their cushy lives. Can't even say it's a general Japan podcast because they've basically done all the clickbait things they can think off and are now just coasting.

Also the "blue dorito" incident isn't half as bad as Gigguk's absymal video on vtubers, genuinely one of the most pathetic and disgusting attempts to explain the medium I've ever seen.

>>57284351
fpbp

>>57284293
Vtubing took off in the west because of covid

>>57304340
>blue dorito
?

>>57304538
“People only watch hololive because of le brand”

>>57284293
Mori is a stupid wigger whore, I hate her.

>>57304676
He's right tho

Honestly all their sins are being paid if you look at their respectives SOs.

>Joey's
a pig fat midget philipino WHORE with an OF account, making him an atronomical cyber cuck.

>Garnt
Le cringy dorky blonde bitch who unironically enjoy Ugly Bastard hentai.

>Connor
I refuse to believe he is straight but even if he is fucking a fucking ex-pornstar is not an achievement.

>>57304410
Based chinks, everyone should kneel to them. Your oshi might not exist today without their bat soup.

>>57304812
But he’s wrong

>>57304676
He literally never said that, lmao. He said being a hololive member guarantees that you will be successful regardless of anything else. Which is absolutely correct, considering advent got hundreds of thousands of subscribers before they ever streamed

>trash taste
Unless I'm a SEA girl or a white 30+ hag, I never be interested in them.

>>57284293
It was already successful and those niggers tried to become the gatekeepers of vtubing.
Glad their plans fell through

>>57284293
This trash totally flew past me
I don't even know these people yet you people act like they are famous or some shit

>>57305495
zoomer-kun, I...

>>57284293
It already had before the brapper wasted people's time with her expat clique, you stupid newfag. The people who watch chuubas overlap minimally with the "people" that care about that cluster of "I just pretend to be into things so I can shit on them" faggots.

>>57284351
fpbp

>>57284475
Fuck that CIA whore.

>>57305322
Because it’s a big deal? Connor is a retard who would bitch about why a big. AAA game is getting tons of sales, while some shitty indie game doesn’t get anything despite it looking like crap.

>>57305322
Some of them had more subscribers already on that same platform you fucking retard.

>>57305322
All of advent had preview content that indicated what types of streamer they would be, and PL info was freely available.

>>57305682
99% of vshojo watchers watch trash taste. That collab feedback loop is why ironmouse is/was the top vtuber on twitch

>>57305965
>Connor complained about Nip idol culture that fans buy multiple copies of the same physical CDs.
>And, during that time, many subs were sent to his chat.
He doesn't think anything. He just thinks what he does is cool and all other content in this world is garbage.

>>57294166
Considering the bewildered reactions to gura winning this random streamer award not everyone knows what a vtuber is.

>>57304340
>Trash Taste are all ironic weebs. Gigguk is a faggot who is ashamed to have ever been an otaku
And yet all "his" takes were stolen from /a/ over the past nearly 15yrs.
What a fag.

>>57307069
So there’s not even an original thought?

>>57306497
>>57292697
Apt way of putting it. The bargain basement britbong is the archetypical zoomer: poisoned by toxic irony, does everything according to social media (twitter troon) consensus. The NPC perfected.
It's also not surprising that the halfcaste bailed from Aus as he likely got shat on daily at school for being a cunt.

>>57284351
Fpbp

>>57303513
Yes I'm working out the kinks it'll be making shitposts soon

>>57289196
>i've seen literal god-tier chuubas who never went above 50 viewers despite being better, funnier, more entertaining then any holo chuuba
Well then why have they not been discovered, since there are popular VTubers who are not part of Hololive or any other agency?
You can seethe at Hololive all you want, but this does not change the fact that it is not their fault that your favorite 2view was not discovered, no matter what your delusion tells you

>>57307411
>as he likely got shat on daily at school for being a cunt
Apparently his school days went fine. But with him trying too hard to be Japanese he also tries too hard to be Australian even though he will never be with his rich background.

>>57304858
The way Garnt talks about her seems like he knows without her he would have ended up alone.

>>57305565
I am not ironic enough for this

>>57310121
only by being a faggot, he made a good living for him.

>>57286931
>>57287092
>>57290818

>>57289196
>well, that IS true, i've seen literal god-tier chuubas who never went above 50 viewers despite being better, funnier, more entertaining then any holo chuuba
Then fucking name them. People like to say "oh there are so many good indies" and yet all the people /vt/ direct me to are shit, or they don't even name people they jsut say indies are good and psot no proof.

I would literally have zero idea who the fuck Connor was if it wasn't for the fact he got picked up by a corporation and shoved on a podcast with 2 other western weebs. Thats what makes his talk of being propped up so funny. Maybe he was big as an indie, but he wasn't as big as he got after corporate backing.

>>57304858
>a pig fat midget philipino WHORE with an OF account
Really? What the fuck is wrong with e-celebs dating OF girls? You have clout and money, why are you dating an OF girl?

>>57311709
I don't think geexplus actually does anything for them but give them a visa

>>57311709
>I would literally have zero idea who the fuck Connor was if it wasn't for the fact he got picked up by a corporation and shoved on a podcast with 2 other western weebs
stop saying out of your ass, they were friends before TT. I know because I used to hatewatch them.

>>57284351
Fpbp

>>57284293
I hate these faggots

>>57286565
??

>>57312190
she started her OF after the e-fame. Which she only got because of him. NO WAY IN HELL she would have gotten a "career" with onlyfans alone (she's ugly and fat).

>>57286890
>Ironmouse's boyfriend
that's all an act

>>57286728
>reddit flesh streamer whore that shaves her pussy on stream
haha wheres the clip of this just asking for a friend

>>57286728
Zhang, you lost. Now go back to your Genshit farm and stupid fuck

>>57299169
because a certain pink haired anime girl said nigger on stream

>>57287933
And?

>>57312416
https://youtu.be/_WAOwcYe4Wc?si=HKIlhW0om-NtmCCV

>>57288283
>are these problems in the room with us right now?
Yes

>>57312213
My point it while I saw old vids of the other 2, the only reason I know TT exists is Mori, and the only reason I know about Connor is TT.
Since' I'm talking about Connor now I will just say that as a Welshman I find Connor bringing up being Welsh to be annoying, it has no real impact on anything and he doesn't even have a Welsh accent becuase he's a gog. There is no cultural difference between Wales and anywhere else in the UK, using it as some kind of personality is cringe.

>>57288285
Based

>>57312417
I thought you posted some gore there, buddy. Legit had to stare at the thumbnail for a good minute before hovering.

>>57288456
If i wanted to see ironic weebs, i'd go to r*ddit and see what they think about any show that dares to not be shonen or the same trite that those fools watch.

>>57312329
Is it atleast the SFW shit so there's still some dignity? I recently found out Michael from RT (I dropped RT ages ago but still) now has an OF. It's sad but it's SFW apparently. Could be worse, Griffin has a NSFW one iirc. Embarassing really.

>>57312547
I respect your point, anon, but that wasn't implied in your previous posts lmao.
what the fuck is a gog

>>57288456
>nonsensical
Newfag

>>57289196
False

>>57289687
Newfag

>>57290019
>Reddit.com

>>57290647
>Connor is definitely fucking Japanese chicks
he is an incel

>>57292208
>the rrat

>>57292697
This

>>57293118
the truth is they don't, only Redditors think that

>>57284293
VTubing had already taken off in the west, with Azur Lane, Coco, Fubuki clips, Miko nigga, Matsuri bandaids, Eekum Bokum and all the original holo memes that got people into watching them.

HoloEN helped a lot with expanding this during debut as well.
Mori's music was spreading fast, Gura was rocketing past every other chuuba - and even some regular content creators.

All Trash Taste did was introduce chuubas to the "ironic weeb" audience, which was very minor in the grand scheme of things, but ultra cancerous in it's long term effects.
These are the same people that became anti idol homobeggars and nijisanji fans starting the very next year.

TT + Gigguk's video was simply leeching off the existing phenomenon. Majority of the comments on those two videos already knew about chuubas and was just happy about them "covering the topic".
Mori's original song has 37M views now, while that particular VOD is stuck at 4M. That tells the whole story.

Trash Taste was simply a footnote in the story of Hololive's domination of the VTuber industry across the world.

>>57312618
Same

>>57313572
>with Azur Lane, Coco, Fubuki clips, Miko nigga, Matsuri bandaids, Eekum Bokum
WHO?

this is literally the point where vtubing in the west stalled out, collabing with these ironic weeb faggots cast doubt on the whole industry which still plagues it to this day

>>57305836
I want to know what Coco has to do with the CIA.

>>57314411
tourist

>>57304884
>bat soup.
there was no soup, that was the problem, they just ate that shit raw

>>57284293
I suspect that 99.999% of the west don’t even know this video exists, and those who did were probably mostly aware of the existence of streamers using avatars. so I doubt it made that much of an impact

>>57314722
all of that were literal whos even at that time

Like it or not you guys needed ironic weebs to some degree.
They're like the manga video/ADV/Toonami/Tokyopop of the 90s/early 2000s, the architects of both the success/popularity and downfall of anime in the west.
At the end of the day the men in suits in Japan that make this stuff happen in the way you might like also like money and you aren't going to get them any money by simply shutting people out from your hobby. Otaku-focused goods and entertainment haven't been self-sustaining inside Japan for some time now, they require significant overseas investment at this point.
You can do what people did back then and recede into your extremely niche touhou/fate/hatsune miku bubble that no one outside of jp understands but it'll just blow up again eventually.
But in fact you probably can't even do that now, young people in Japan care more about what the rest of the region cares about which are chinese gacha games, kdramas, and kpop idols so if you don't care about those things you're SOL and a dinosaur.

>>57313572
> All Trash Taste did was introduce chuubas to the "ironic weeb" audience
case in point >>57314411

>>57309601
one has a full time job for example, streaming is just a hobby she does on the side since she studied and has a solid, save and secure job that also pays unreasonably well (just as one example)
blue triangles makes you instantly famous, but some just want to have fun after work or at the weekends
>>57312530
you still see them? can you hear them too? i just prescribe you some xanex and then you just come back in a week and we see how you feel then
>>57313221
heard of that before iirc
why? do you go there often? can you recommend?

>>57315199
> you guys
go back

>>57313572
/thread

>>57315291
At least I didn't say ya'll

>>57315199
you're the kind of retard who told everyone Final Fantasy 16 would sell way more copies by appealking to the west and going action game of thrones slop for dimwits like you, arent you?

>>57284293
No. Vtubers went viral in the west even before these e celebs collabed.
They were leeching.
You knew it.
They knew it.
I knew it.
God knew it.

>>57284293
Get this ironic weebery OFF THIS BOARD

why is this retarded shit still on frontpage? stop biting the fucking bait, of course the video was fucking irrelevant, and everyone that was supposed to have heard of vtubers, had heard of them beforehand

Moricucks are delusional

>>57313572
>These are the same people that became anti idol homobeggars and nijisanji fans starting the very next year.
Yep
>TT + Gigguk's video was simply leeching off the existing phenomenon. Majority of the comments on those two videos already knew about chuubas and was just happy about them "covering the topic".
>Mori's original song has 37M views now, while that particular VOD is stuck at 4M. That tells the whole story.
basically, these retards mooched off them. Hololive didn't give them an inch. So they naturally went to their next host and found something to latch onto. The parasite didn't exactly care how they came off, but they had their stupid audience already. Ironic weebs are, unfortunately, everywhere.

>>57316237
>everyone that was supposed to have heard of vtubers
You don’t get to decide who watches vtubers.

>>57315664
I mean "game of thrones slop for dimwits" doesn't really describe FF16 except maybe in the most superficial way and as far as the other point goes Square has been making single player FF and FF-adjacent titles into action titles for like two decades now. So no fucking clue what you're on about.

This thread just confirms for me that despite all the seethe, everyone on /vt/ is a trash taste watching redditor.

>>57315199
>Anime is now going into a mainstream mode and ironic weebs will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, anime will not survive

>>57314601
Coco joined the CIA and kidnapped Gura for multiple months

>>57315254
I'm reading it right now and it's responding to me

>>57315254
You didn't even say names, coward

>>57317756
Lol no

>>57317823
I mean all likelihood this stuff is going to go into another recession for a good 10-15 years and it will be reviled again.
You see it already on twitter, people flocking to shows like rent-a-girlfriend just to say obvious shit like "bruh this shits for people who don't have no gf" like this is some unique revelation about a genre that has existed for many decades and has had numerous extremely poor shows and extremely excellent shows in the genre.

>>57320131
>>57317823
I mean just look at what happens when the twitter algorithm ends up promoting a vtuber clip outside of weebdom. This shit will still make you a pariah

>>57315254
Sounds like you're just more into grooming than watching entertaining streamers.

If someone asked me in a few years why Twitch lost young viewers and went bankrupt, I would surely remember them.

>>57284293
yes
>>57284351
fpbp

>>57284293
They really are the biggest leeches. I still remember how Connor tried to insinuate his way into working with Hololive talents first with Mori, then with Ollie. The little faggot has literally never stopped seething over being told to fuck off by (presumably) Holo management.

>>57333081
After he goes fully bald he is 100% joining holostars.

>>57284293
i dont really get the hate around TT

i mean their videos are bland and safe, for normies, but i have seen waaaay worse than this

>>57284351
>>57288285

>TT are leechers
YES, thats the point of a talk show/podcast with guests, thats nothing new

why is this thread on /vt/ again?

>>57335714
You can't say you don't understand hate and then say the reasons for the hate

>>57336869
that gorilla is much better than these weaklings at this job

>>57315199
>Like it or not you guys needed ironic weebs to some degree.

wat

>>57337881
I would pay good money to see Mori on Joe Rogan

>>57337785
hate would imply that they made me feel anything at all

>>57284293
It's amazing that mori didn't graduate for completely misrepresenting the fact that all of these guys are her close friends and that her IRL persona has collabed with them many times.

She acted as if she didn't know them and blatantly used hololives platform to boost her IRL friends careers.

It's actually mind boggling.
Did management just not know?

>>57338216
They collabed after this, but wasn't this the first? Regardless, Cover just threw EN into the wind at the start, they only started being more heavy handed when they accidentally hit success.

>>57338470
There are pre-holo photos of her with some of them.

>>57288577
Hololive has rules against collabing with people you also make content with IRL.
She lied and acted as if she didn't know them to promote their channel

>>57337785
let me rephrase it, its not like i dont understand why /vt/ dont like them

i meant that thinking about them its time wasted, they are not even interesting people, even their "controversies" are bland

>>57338216
Holo probably had the whole thing scripted to avoid anything controversial

>>57288888
pretty much, likes certain things about the culture but he ultimately shits on japanese people and their culture whenever he has a chance to
never in front of other japanese people if that matters

>>57338605
>promote their channel
they were already big

I miss Mori sticking to kayfabe

>>57305322
This, shiori is the proof of this

>>57338216
It was after this podcast that Connor/TT followed Mori's RM on Twitter. Despite the fact that she had lived in Tokyo for years.
She and they clearly used Hololive as a stepping stone.

>>57338648
because they hate us and the unicorns, for some reason. For example, look what they think of nene>>57310590

>>57315199
>Like it or not you guys needed ironic weebs to some degree
Oh yeah, I definitely loved the last year of homocollab shipping from them, EN definitely needed that

>>57284293
This is actually the first frame i saw of it, until now i only read about that shit. The background merch looks horrible but i guess that's intended with their name.

>>57305322
you're lying
>>57338869
In any case, it proves the opposite.

>>57339119
Their first set was half assed because they weren't expecting success. After they blew up they got a proper studio

>>57338918
Her and Sydsnap had photo's with each other

>>57339119
>>57339782
i think the merch was chosen by the audience or something

>>57339834
Did you check the posting date properly?
It was after this podcast that mori appeared on Syd's Youtube channel.

This episode introduced me to vtubing. I thought Mori was unbearably cringe and had to pause out of secondhand embarrassment multiple times. But then I started getting recommended hololive clips by the algorithm because of it and that brought me in

>>57338727
Her manager was there but I'm not convinced that mori didn't misrepresent her relationship with them
>>57338918
She personally knew garnt way before this, she was friends with sydsnap for awhile

>>57340141
Why would you think Cover wouldn't want the exposure to the western weeb market?

>>57340047
like it or not, some of us were introduced to vtubers because of this

>>57339979
Mori's roommate deleted a few of her former twitters/twitch accounts, she's on twitch acc #3

She's been friends with sydsnap for awhile

>>57340234
I do think they would, but mori lied to them about her relationship with them, EN management had no idea that this was a friend of hers and she was using hololives brand to promote TT so that it would funnel to her roommate

>>57340302
>former twitters/twitch accounts
I thought she started Twitch last year.
Now I know why people call her as a twitch simp. She had always longed to join the Twitch circle, and was it something she wanted to do, even at the expense of her career.

>>57284293
Considering even koekoe and asmond panders to weebs these days, her TT collab is a gigantic mistake

>>57340684
Her first stream on her new Twitch channel was collab with connor, and given that the TwitchAPI can easily look up the average CCV of a channel, it's not surprising that she wanted to reset it.

>>57340684
To give mori some credit, I think she has unironically grown a bit, in her 1st year she wanted to use hololive for her roommate.
Then in her 2nd year, all her funneling was a flop for her roommate and her album sales weren't anything compared to her hololive success.
Then in her 3rd year her hololive album sales dipped by a lot and so did her CCV.

Ultimately, she got extremely humbled by the "fast food job" she mistreated and has realized that hololive wasn't a success she could replicate on her own.
I'm sure other IRL shit impacted it, but how she brushed off the magni/vesper graduations reveals her shift in priorities going forward.

>3 guys who promote Japanese immigration
>massively thirsty for japanese women
>only one regularly gets laid and its the one who will be bald in a year


yea no one cared about mutt cast

>>57342235
>connor
>getting laid
he can't talk to women, just watch (I know) some of his cringe videos where he tries to do it

>>57342235
>3 guys who promote Japanese immigration
you mean the guys that shit on japanese culture multiple times in every episode?
>massively thirsty for japanese women
none of them are even dating a japanese woman??
connor openly complained about the dating scene with them
>only one regularly gets laid and its the one who will be bald in a year
are you seriously trying to suggest that the 2 guys who are more attractive than their girlfriends aren't getting laid?

>>57342916
it is very pathetic to defend these morons

>>57342842
cope harder, that guy is winning at life right now, Gigguk is married to a Vshojo member, and Joey...

Well...

Gigguk is married to a Vshojo member

>>57284293
litterally zero people who watched this didn't know what a vtuber is already, all this collab gave us was keeping vshitjo alive via metalrat.

>>57344221
>Gigguk is married to a Vshojo member
I don't even wish that on my enemies, poor guy
>that guy is winning at life right now
He is dead inside, like all lefties who live in a semi-conservative country

>>57344533
>metalrat.
rata fierro

>>57344221
>>57344592
im just glad that we all agree that joey is the fucking worst

>>57288934
>Connor "relationship"
Oh yeah, just like Connor being a "friend" to Ollie, who always plays Apex with her. Really real and true. Not only for clout.

>>57344673
lol

>>57344592
>He is dead inside, like all lefties who live in a semi-conservative country

legit confused here, did he ever promoted any agenda? i mean he is a pussy, but i dont remember him endorsing leftist propaganda

>>57344671
mil disculpas compa.

>>57344916
>did he ever promoted any agenda?
yes, he is anti-idol culture

>>57284293
can't wait for the sun to solar blast the internet all together to be free of this type of shit. covid was the first step into madness

>>57345323
Ironic for a fucking lolicon

>>57345409
It's going to get worse, it's already affecting real life

>>57345323
Joey literally made a video about how idol companies are evil

>>57344155
>>57344221

>Successful Streamer
>Multiple Successful Youtube Channels
>He and rata fierro are the reason Vshojo is even a thing
>Was famous even before Vtubers existed
>He is doing a tour on Europe right now

Just say you are jealous and move on

>>57288169
>nice guy
>blast it all over the web
hah....

Gigguk was OK and then he REALLY sold out once Demo and D*g* weren't around.

>>57345323
>anti-idol culture
Can he explain the difference between twitch's subathon and idol's meet&greet?

>>57345622
>Was famous even before Vtubers existed
>only became into the spotlight after covid
KEK

>>57284293
What? I thought that video was pretty recent. What do you mean?

>>57345578
got my prep ready!

>>57345869
It was nearly three years ago.

>>57345869
/vt/ hates anyone that is not a basement dweller...

Joey sucks tho...

>>57345671
>sold out
Recently mori released a new album, and she chose "betrayal" as the theme of the album. She must have really believed that she would never be like Ollie.

>>57346215
Why is all of her music so resentful?

>>57345994
They're ALL massive faggots, but at least joey makes it clear he knows his place.

>>57345654
>>57345671
>>57345726
>>57346357

Connor and Grant are the ones that at the very least knows what they are and can have a laugh at themselves, not every single video is a winner but sometimes are entertaining background noise

Joey is the one that should be put down, he is a smug ashole

"Japan sucks ass guys"
"Remember that time i spoke perfect japanese..."

thats all he does, gets old

>>57284293
Yes, and it would have been much bigger. TT's fans would have all found Hololive on their own and not viewed it through the lens of these e-celebs' biased views.
Instead, TT ended up attacking Hololive and trying to carry most of their viewers to Vshojo. And now we have a huge schism in the vtuber fandom that was pretty much entirely caused by TT's comments.

>>57344221
but... Vshojo nepo-hired his wife in exchange for TT attacking Hololive and promoting Vshojo.

>>57345622
>>Successful Streamer
>>Multiple Successful Youtube Channels
that's the same point twice, sis
>He and rata fierro are the reason Vshojo is even a thing
she does the heavy lifting
>Was famous even before Vtubers existed
nope
>He is doing a tour on Europe right now
okay

>>57347569
He was indeed famous well before vtubers were thing

>>57347569
>that's the same point twice, sis

He is succesful on Youtube and Twitch

>>57346300
it's rap culture

>>57288221
she was there for the "after dark" format tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rndSz8bEt0

>>57347683
I doubt it, never heard of him in 2016

>>57284293
I believe I speak for the entire western weeb community when I say every single person in this picture should die.

>>57346953
>>57347449

>TT attacked Hololive

what does that even mean?

>>57347758
everyone that is popular on Twitch is popular on Youtube

>>57348032
newfag read>>57338648

>>57348212
read this
>>57338926

>>57347449
i think that was just plain nepotism, most of the Vshojo members are friends with Sydney, and Rata Fierro is Connor´s friend, obviously they are going to promote them more

Joey did slander nene but i think thats just a "male feminist" thing and not something against hololive

business-wise wouldnt make any sense having the biggest vtubing company on the planet as your enemy

>>57347449
>>57348341

Vshojo is only relevant because Holo fucks up a lot, they are more a retirement home than a company at this point, they need all the help they can get

>>57348696
>Holo fucks up a lot,
If we compare it with the competition you will realize that it is not true.

>>57348070
thats not exactly true, most twitch streamers only upload clips and vods

>>57348903
the only time we even give a damn about Vshojo is when Holo graduates a talent and at the same time Vshojo announces a debut, you know why

>>57348963
I guess that's a good point

>>57347933
even calliope?

>>57345622
to be honest, he is the only one i care about, gigguk and joey havent been funny or relevant in years

>>57349542
Inb4
>Especially Calliope
Haters gonna hate. Good thing Mori matured and less often tryharding at owning the anti (a ridiculous concept).

>>57349542
nta It is obvious that yes.

>>57349661
he was never good

>>57349893
numbers say otherwise honey, at the very least he is doing something right

>>57350046
Inb4
>Ironlung is a scam
93% is not a meme. Dude would go to a great length for his wife. Any single woman, and many non-single women would happy to ride that dick.

>>57345622
>>57345799
>>57347569
>>57349893

>rich, famous, good looking, he is fucking your waifu

Why /vt/ hates him? what a mystery

>>57350046
>numbers
Since when does that determine quality?

>>57346932
I just can't stand Connor's smarmy attitude. Youngest of the three and thinks he knows it all. He's the preachiest of the three as well, with his generic Redditor quips and lefty takes. Never misses the chance to "own chuds".
People that hide behind the consensus of accepted opinions are weasels.

>>57350661
>>57350181
>>57350046
ok, connor. stop crying

>>57350661
where did you take my picture?

>>57350661
>good looking
>those eyes
>that underbite

>>57350181
how old are you?

>>57350737
>Since when does that determine quality?
When holofags keep shitting on Ollie, Bae, and Kronii.

>>57350914
the sisters use that defense since the days of justin bieber

>>57350181
>Ironlung is a scam
really? because by now that should be easy to prove

>>57350964
Do you think they do that because they have poor numbers?How old are you?

>>57351100
you don't have reading compression,newfag

>>57351100
It is a rrat from seething jealous faggots. It is obvious how easy to prove if she lied about this, considering kiwifarm niggers hate her.
>>57351168
33. And yes, literally ALL Hololive threads always cite the numbers as proof that Unicorn is winning, or whatever it was.

connor is a fag

>>57351292
>33
you are stupid

>>57351429
And you are retarded, shithead.
Prove me wrong about /vt/ tradition. You literally can't. # bloated the whole warosu and Holofags keep shitting on the homocollab and use numbers to back it up.

>>57351580
>Prove me wrong
your point is that /vt/ hates them because they are unpopular.Or was it that numbers are an objective measure of quality?

>>57350796
i guess i never saw that because i dont really watch TT, i watch his youtube channel

>>57352334
go back

>>57352334
I'm the guy that listens to them on Spotify only. Don't consume any other content of theirs.

>>57349661
>>57352334
because ironlung right? got it, moving on

>>57352746
>I'm the guy that listens to them on Spotify only

ewwww

>>57342235
Explain this picture. That cant be real

>>57348341
(You) me if you fucking hate e-celebs.

>>57353296
i drive for work so it's a good way to kill time.

>>57284604
>Nobody remembers when myth had goals of 100k subs and nobody knew how popular holoen was gonna be

>>57354185
good background noise