/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>5706366
not entirely, there are a few worth watching anime every season, vivy fluorite eye's song was a fucking banger

>>5706366
i stopped watching anime like a decade ago anon

I just watch vtuber anime

>>5706366
Nah. I just finished Great Teacher Onizuka in less than a week (48 episodes) and yet still watched Vtubers in that time.

I read manga, the two mediums are so different that one isn't able to replace the other for me at all. You have to have only watched moeshit to not crave actual story and adventure anymore.

Nope but I take long break between those two.
So i can go 3 weeks with watching anime but the next 4 week will only be hololive and vice versa

They didn't replace anime but they replaced a lot of YouTubers I watched. I've been waning off anime these past couple years

Manga replaced anime for me like 2 years ago, but yeah, probably i read/play much less

>>5706366
No, they're nowhere near the same thing. One is a structured work of fiction and the other is live streamers that sometimes attempt to poorly play a character.

>>5706366
No.
>>5706447
Even pure moeshit can't be replaced by Vtubers. Good moe is still art, like manga and anime generally. Vtubing is just throwaway entertainment.

I watch anime rarely nowadays because only few capture my interest. Just finished watching Eighty-Six. Recently it's just Vtubers when I finish my work

do they replace cute girls doing cute things anime? yes
do they replace story-driven anime? no

i'm an actual neet so no, i still watch at least like 3-4 hours of anime everyday while also watching chuubas

>>5706366
Asking this is like asking if streamers replaced watching movies or shows anon, of course not Vtubers and Anime are completely different mediums

I was already losing interest in anime and manga by the time I first encountered Miko. Since then I haven't watched or read anything.

>>5706366
Yes. The only show I've watched in the past four years was the third season of Non Non Biyori. Anime is at its worst ever right now.

>>5706850
>i still watch at least like 3-4 hours of anime everyday while also watching chuubas
what the fuck are you doing with your life?

>>5707089
He's
>an actual neet
so evidently, he's doing nothing.

>>5706366
chuuba only fulfills that CGDCT niche. My favorite genre is mecha and urban battle fantasy so I'm still watching whatever catches my eyes.

>>5706366
You're retarded if you watch seasonal anime

>>5707252
every anime is a seasonal anime

>>5706366
I usually watch clips\streams with my buddy so now it's 50\50 chuubas and anime.

Im slowly going back to watching anime and reading manga. So far ive only been reading vagabond and catching up on seasonal anime

I still love anime, it's just that I can never set aside the time for it. Every time I feel like watching a show, some new vtuber stream comes up and I can't help but want to watch it live. Then when it ends there's another new vtuber stream that's live and catches my attention. I feel so jealous whenever vtubers mention Zombieland Saga and other current shows lately, it makes me want to go back to the time when I could freely watch anime without having to the fear of missing out on streams.

>>5707742
Same, it seems like my body got tired of not watching Anime or something because i recently started again and i am watching 24 episode shows in a day like quite some time ago, feels pretty good, coincidentally i have also got up to day with Vagabond a couple days ago

>>5706366
This is true only for bandwagoning holobronies who never watched anime much in the first place, so congrats on outing yourself as that. The true Chad vtuber fan uses vtubers as a incentive to learn Japanese and consume more Japanese media, be it anime, manga, visual novels, etc.

>>5707964
I used to play visual novels in Japanese every day. Then I got into vtubers. I've lost control of my life.

With any luck vtubers might burst the moe / slice of life bubble that's plaguing anime.

It's completely replaced Narou-kei garbage and CGDCT for me but it can't replace sci-fi and robot anime.

No, I still watch 2-3 new series each season. It's only an hour and a half time sink each week.

>>5706366
Nah, Zombieland Saga R was fucking kino

>>5706434
Ah GTO, one of my top 3. Too bad I can never have the same feelings again once you watch through it already.

>>5707964
>not being a fluent Japanese speaker in the year of 2021
sasuga amerilard

>>5706366
nah
it's actually good again now
and I've mostly narrowed it down to chuubas I actually give a shit about
so it's the best of both worlds

>>5707089
Being a NEET obviously.

Actually my oshi has helped me discovering the Macross franchise after which I started watching more /m/ anime music related like Rahxephon

>>5706408
Same.Although I did take a break to watch the abomination that was the Berserk anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDwqAwNyDNA

>>5706408
Same. Although I did take a break to watch the abomination that was the Berserk anime. But still read manga since I can read a bunch of chapters relatively quickly. Instead of 30 minutes wathing one episode of an anime I can read like 5 or 10 chapters and finish mangas with hundreds of chapters in a few days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDwqAwNyDNA

>>5706366
Sorta, but not really.
Instead of watching the two or three shows I care about and then a handful of trash shows as filler, I watch the two or three shows I care about then watch vtubers.

>>5706366
For me it mostly replaced korean variety.
There were a bunch of shows that I really enjoyed but they ended almost simultaneously and in that drought I rediscovered vtubers.

>>5706366
2000, 90, 80s anime were so good and thought provoking.

Everything now is shit.

>>5706366
I'm mostly a manga reader anyway, dropping Animes that have mangas was an easy choice.

>>5711001
Anime exists to sell manga and light novels now. If there is any depth its incidental to the source material, or from some small company trying something to get noticed so they can shift into doing cash grab adaptations.

>>5706366
not anime as a whole but only for moe anime

>>5711001
I remember when people used to complain about 00's anime being all shit.

I stopped watching that crap ages ago after realising most of it is pure garbage

>>5711269
well in the early 2000s there were quite a few gems. later on, 2006 was shit IIRC. 2007 was pretty good. we just don't get the highs from those times anymore, only the lows and occasionally something decent in-between.

>>5706366
I used to binge watch anime a lot but since I have less free time than before I fully started, which is a faster and better way to consoom. I watch vtubers ocasionally, but I prefer reading mangas honnestly

>>5712053
I fully started to read manga

>>5706366
no i think that's stupid. Vtubers dont compare to full, complete stories, the creativity, the soundtrack, design, art, animation, the voice acting. Not a lot of vtubers compare to actual voice actors.

People have lost their minds i think, vtuber content is very repetitive. I guess a lot of people who are simping are parasocial andies, who like their names read, who feel a "connection" with vtubers, it's all fake though.

And there are those who are just lonely, so they dont care if the content is good.

>>5713333
Your last line is the main point. People who turn to anime/manga for some sort of pseudo-friendship simulator might get the same thing out of Vtubers, but nobody who in any way cares about art or storytelling would compare them.

>>5706519
i think manga is perfectly fine, but a lot of manga readers act kind of superior for reading or some shit, like their source is automatically better than anime.

Anime has voice acting, music, animation, color, it objectively offers more. Anime literally offers more stimulation in multiple ways.

>>5706366
Definitely. I refuse to watch anime these days. The anime related things I follow are the music composers. And Kensuke Ushio composing the OST for Chainsawman (an anime I'm not planning on watching btw) has me excited for his work.

There was nothing to watch for years anyway, so vtubers it is for me.

>>5706366
I'm watching Jahy sama next season, but it has vtubers singing the ED, so it's pretty much vtubers

>>5706408
...yeah. I only watch anime every now and again, and it's usually older shows. I stopped caring about the season-to-season rat race years ago.

>>5711192
>>5711001
>>5720402
>>5711375

Comments like these, its hard to describe it, but clearly they come from ignorance and you just dont watch anime. And even when you do you have very narrow interests.

I wish people stopped speaking about something so clearly out of their depth. Its demonstrably wrong by any metric - same metric that applies to your old "back in my days" anime.

there's something to watch pretty much in any genre.

>>5706366
Not completely but the average number of series I watch seasonally took a massive drop.
I used to be at 10-15 and now it's 3-5

There hasn't been any anime worth watching
I only watched Godzilla:Singular Point as it was airing

>>5706366
bookwalker and webnovel.com are always coming out with good light novels and manga. But anime? The localizer is too powerful in anime. vtubers didn't replace anime for me because I already stopped watching it; what vtubers did was replace a lot of random youtube watching, mostly political stuff.
You feel like vtubers replaced anime because you were watching anime. You only have 24 hours a day, anything that preferentially takes up your time is going to replace something that formerly took up your time.

>>5706366
>replaced anime
no faggot and if it ever did for any of you, you're an ironic weeb and have no place in here

>>5706366
Nope, I started getting into anime because of vtubers

>>5706366
I've never really been super into anime. I just like the streamers.

>>5713531
anime adapted from manga and light novels are more often than not just advertisement so that more copies of the source can be sold. When a series is doing poorly they’ll make an anime to try and drum up more sales.
Anime is just an accessory to the manga, which almost always has better art. Color doesn’t mean shit if the studio is cutting corners and animating doodles to spare time.
You toting “more stimulation” as a positive honestly makes you sound like a ADHD-riddled monkey that needs extra bells and whistles to pay attention

>>5732373
Anime is just an advert for LNs and Manga nowadays if you don't read either of these you are a literal casual tier ironic weeb.

>>5706366
thats like saying talk shows replaced proper films?
sounds like ironic weeb shit

>>5733167
completely disregarding originals and the fact that they are two different mediums

>>5706366
Pretty much, yeah. I haven't watched any new anime since Dorohedoro and Eizouken last year, and I haven't even watched any older anime this year so far.

>>5733373
Name a good original in the last 3 years

Some people here are really overselling anime. You usually get one or maybe two truly decent shows every year, and even then they're not unmissable.

>>5733505
Akudama Drive was decent and entertaining.

>>5732622
>When a series is doing poorly

That makes no fucking sense. Series that are actually doing poorly arent worth adapting to anime, all adapted works are successful already in their own right and anime amplifies that success, but they've already beaten the competition among other works in the same medium, which wont get an adaptation.
It is success that makes an anime adaptation more likely - not failure.

A lot of anime has better art than manga - see demon slayer, jujutsu kaisen, attack on titan, any adaptation of really old works.

Also your terminology is shit. Better individual drawings doesnt mean its better "art", animation itself is art and manga has none. What the fuck is animation by yutaka nakamura, nozomu abe and other great animators, if not art?
. Having more lines in a single draving vs a single anime frame, isn't "better art". So that's just pure ignorant drivel

>needs extra bells and whistles to pay attention

its the opposite. You have problem with attention, if you cant appreciate additional aspects by artists over multiple disciplines - like voice acting, music and animation.
Thinking demonstrably dryer work is automatically better is idiotic.
Why even read manga then, do you need pretty pictures to "pay attention", read light novels and novels, they have more detail.

Authors like Isayama themselves consider anime the final product and often has added/changed content, but they are definitely not designed by producers or by directors to be an accessory.

Everyone knows that continuation of anime greatly depends on success of that adaptation. Similar in how an american TV series wont continue with poor ratings, and poor ratings of a manga can get it cancelled before it's adapted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osRa-wtf5bk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfmAYf99A80

Sorta but not really. Anime killed anime with consecutive seasons of everything is somehow worse than last season and last season was shit. Theres that 1 show i care about and 2-3 so bad its entertaining filler. Now its that 1show and random vtuber as background noise. If i hadnt discovered vtubers it would be old movies as background noise.

>>5706366
Yes and no. I don't watch new anime anymore, but I've been rewatching classics. Just finished my rewatch of blleach because pekor said she was excited for the new anime.

Accepting recommendations for good shows of the last two years.

>>5706366
Nah, I recently watched vivy and I'm watching nagatoro and hige wo soru. Dunno about next season yet.

>>5706366
I stopped watching anime like 4 years ago but it did replace reading manga a bit. Didn't help that mangadex got ddoxed to Bolivia a few months ago. Maybe once scans start being updated I will read again

>>5733505
Akudama drive, Deca Dence, Vivy, Id:invaded, Great Pretender, Megalo Box, Granbelm, Carole&Tuesday, Princess Principal more Psycho pass, anything by TRIGGER, all Gundams . This ofcourse ignores most movies.

>>5733774
Eizouken, Dorohedoro and Pop Team Epic are the only really great anime that come to mind right now, and the last of those was mostly from 2018.

>>5706401
vivy was terrible

>>5733774
Im sorry but i find rewatching lots of old shit when youre behind on anything modern is very boomer like. Think about it, do you really feel so old that you cant appreciate new things?

I could understand if they were literally well paced favourites, not some long running shit with bad pacing and filler.

You need to change your mindset completely, finding something good especially when you havent watched anything recent isnt hard.

Dont look for recommendations on 4chan, any real metric would be more reliable - ratings, reviews, awards. Dont be hipster and just watch the thing everyone talked about. Jujutsu Kaisen or Demon Slayer will surely be a more worthwhile experience than rewatching Bleach, and its the same genre. And yes Pekora seen them too, pretty much every JP holo has, and been singing songs from them and spoke a lot about.

And ofcourse you gotta catchup to Attack on Titan before the last season.

>>5711525
late 2000s anime is objectively better than pre-2006 shit overall, pre-2006 studios were still grappling with the transition to digital and everything looked fucking ugly as shit and aged poorly. just compare the first season gonzo FMP to the KyoAni FMP. the difference is drastic, and most pre-2006 anime looked like the former.

>>5734768
What the hell are you taking about? Eizouken was from 2020.

>>5706366
I was mostly out of anime and this God forsaken place about 5 years ago.
Yet here I am, simping for a clown and replaying to faggots.

>>5731386
(you)

>>5735399
nobody really leaves from here

>>5735217
I meant the last of them in the order that I listed them, not in terms of when they aired. PTE was mostly 2018, but there were 2 episodes in 2019.

>>5735044
>late 2000s anime is objectively better than pre-2006 shit overall, pre-2006 studios were still grappling with the transition to digital and everything looked fucking ugly as shit and aged poorly. just compare the first season gonzo FMP to the KyoAni FMP. the difference is drastic, and most pre-2006 anime looked like the former.
Excuse me, GTFO newfag. Plenty of old, traditional-cel anime looks incredible.
If the film was well preserved and got a proper HD transfer, it looks fucking amazing. The small handful of DBZ episodes that FUNi properly transferred to those "Level" Blu-Rays (and the leaked/online only ones, up to Ep 39 I believe) look better than most of fucking Super.
Cowboy Bebop is a perfect example - the only parts that aged poorly were the CG bits that were mastered to some interlaced SD tape format after being rendered at a pretty low resolution.
GITS:SAC is another great example - early 00s, brilliantly done - only the low-res CG aged poorly.
Samurai Champloo is an unfortunate "bad" example - early digital animation that was mastered in SD.
So much digitally animated (and more importantly, inked) anime has kind of converged on a similar look. Cel animated / ink/paint had a bit more character, even when the art and animation itself didn't have all the bells and whistles that came with digital animation.
Not shitting on all new stuff, but don't write old shit off because your only impression of it is low quality SD stuff or poorly transferred "HD" shit like DBZ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzd8Q5w7luU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQXSzSEFa3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6fZg4OCzs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Figk51j3yZQ

>>5735733
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIJRHYiMm90

>>5706366
VNs replaced anime for me. I barely watch vtubers.