/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>even when they graduated still seething
Lol move on with your pathetic life loser

All tempus threads should get instadeleted with an automatic ban.

>>57012528
>p-pls stop bullying muh bOiZ
KWAB
I thought they were gonna return and fuck all our oshis? That's what you said would happen, right?

>>57012528
>discussing an event two days old makes you a pathetic loser
seethe harder sister, and also note you should follow your own advice. go back to your general if you hate it so much.

>>57012469
>Laplus
>Choco
>Kuroe

>>57012469
I doubt Vesper will be bigger.

>more unprofessional than women
>more entitled than women
>more menhera than women
>more selfish than women
>more disrespectful towards their fans than women
Male vtubers single-handedly dispelled all misogynistic assumptions I have had about the genders, I am now girlpower pilled, thank you Vespiss and Fagni.

>I don't like or watch the homos
>Anyways, here's another 50 threads about them

>>57012688
I doubt that was a sister. I've seen the doxxsite, they are absolutely critical about their scummy behavior.

If Bettel ends up joining them, then HoloStarsEN is dead. The hiring process wouldn't be worth the effort if you have you consider them gaining clout and dipping. They successfully killed StarEN.

>>57013009
That's the real grim truth, the biggest homobeggars on this board are actually male. Especially the Vespiss drinkers, fatherless fucking zoomers from /v/ who treat him as a gigachad version of themselves. A bastardized mix of self-inserting and seeking a father figure, kinda like zoomer Andrew Tate fans. Absolutely pathetic.

>>57012469
[Citation needed]

>>57012871
or if you used your brain you would see how EN vtubing overwhelmingly revolves around girls and their personalities and makes them the default so a guy getting into EN vtubing, and getting into the spotlight of a big company and trying to juggle it all, is far more likely to be off and menhera

>>57013071
how's your dad doing sis

>>57013179
Good since I'm not a fatherless loser like you are.

>>57012578
Bruh I don't give a fuck what happens to these two, I don't watch homos but the fact that you're still thinking about them proves that they live in your head rent free even in "death". That's more pathetic than just moving on to the next target.

>>57012688
Not a sister, sister.. do you just not like people and immediately call them homobeggars? Overused term that completely lost its meaning.

>>57013501
is that a Freudian slip? that guy never mentioned homobeggars at all.

I'm assuming they were graduated because of contract disuputes -

It's not the talent's fault for thinking they could do better without the corp. It's not the corp's fault they thought they didn't deserve better contracts.

>>57015621
>It's not the talent's fault for betraying their fans over minor inconveniences

>>57015867
The fans can just follow them over to their new accounts lol. If they can't do that they might be toddlers instead of fans.

Obviously I don't know how much money they make at Stars and they don't know how much money they'll make as indies, but they seem to think it'll be more. Also if you think the restrictions of being a Cover talent are "minor" then lmfao

>>57017405
You're fucking retarded if you think people will stick with them. I didn't even work for kikeson and mikeneko who are bigger than these losers will ever be. They are nothing without the blue dorito.
Magni is the #1 hilarity in this situation since he's actually clueless/heartless/griftbrained enough to think his Magnite fans will just watch his fleshtuber self like it's the same thing as the vtuber.

>>57017611
Calm down sister, take your HRT..

If the """fans""" won't watch someone because the dorito is gone then were they worth caring about in the first place?

>>57012469
of course. being in holostars was all a bit

>>57012528
It hasn't even been a week,sis

>>57012774
he will. most of his followers only watched stars for him. they don't give a shit about his actions as long they are entertained.

>>57018049
>gets BTFO
>C-CALM D-DOWN
>literally unironically trying to justify betraying a fanbase just because they're not completely mindless drones who will follow your cynical grift
Pathetic tranny.

>>57015867
>vtubers should just kneel down, shut up, and lick corporate boot because their fans' feelings are much more important than their own.

>>57012528
Fuck you, they Ruined Ame and Kronii they deserve less

>>57012530
Yeah, the ORC one too

>>57018357
>point out it's incredibly easy to find their rm accounts
>YOU'RE A RETARD!! THEY BETRAYED THEIR FANS!!!

Take your HRT sister

>>57018467
They were always ruined, faggot. You should be thanking them for revealing them for the whores they really are. Now return to pure, unicorn friendly girls like Gura and Mumei and Fauna.

>>57012469
If the legendary Coco who graduated with 400k concurrent viewers now becoming a HoloID tier then those guys would gain almost nothing.
First few streams will be bigger than their last streams as Holostars but 2 years from now almost all of the refugees will forget about them. The orc will be back to 300 ccv indie or even fewer.

>>57018741
And we'll be right here mocking their low numbers
Feels good

>>57013436
Why are you in this thread then, if it bothers you that much just ignore it.

>>57018406
Yes.

Imagine having a permavirgin lying menhera as your father figure who ends up abandoning you, just like your real dad. That is honestly just sad.

>>57017611
To be fair, that's because their fanbase was composed primarily of unicorns. We'll see if these supposed "brotuber" fans are serious about their claims and follow them to their roommate accounts.

>>57012898
we are celebrating,pedo

>>57018049
It's the truth though, not magni is already reclining hard in his twitch channel

>>57012469
especially when said person looks up to Sana of all people

>>57013436
two days

>>57018799
I wouldn't mind if you faggots would stop killing threads over it. You wanna shitpost about it keep it in one location instead of sperging over half the catalog.

>>57018674

>First case
There’s an obvious member you can check on social blade

>>57018406
Your own feelings are only important if they're about how much you would give up for your fans.

>>57019039
Stay seething brownVTM cuck, we will enjoy our victory lap and you can cope forever about it.
>n-n-not a homobeggar trust me bro JUST PLEASE STOP MAKING SPAMMING THREADS WHICH I'VE NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT REGARDING ANY OTHER TOPIC IN BOARD HISTORY

>>57018740
>Gura and Mumei and Fauna.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH get a load of this faggot!

>>57018406
Correct. Entertainer-fan relationship is based on mutual self-sacrifice for one another. I know twitchzoomer griftbrains like you physically can't comprehend this though. You only understand leeching off everything and everyone you interact with, like a parasite.

>>57019104
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20475262

>>57018741
Considering he was a 2view before tempus I dont think he would mind 300 ccv

They left because they didn't get the money and fame they expected in Holostars. Their numbers dwindled as time went on, so they bailed after deciding it was no longer possible to get the results they wanted.

>>57018406
you never worked a day in your life and it shows

>>57012469
>First case of "grift off of hololive to boost your roommate" rrat actually turning out to be 100% real.
one roommate posted that they quit because models were ugly and the other retweeted

>>57018049
>calls others """fans""" mockingly
>doesn't understand how people who watched a vtuber might not want to watch a fleshtuber with a different personality
yet you call others 'sisters' kek. I have nothing but contempt for vesper and his shitfuckery but at least he gives two shits about vtubing and isn't just a grifter.
people like you only make me happy magni and vesper are gone and taking their cancerous fans with them.

>>57019683
they did get money and fame. their rm numbers skyrocket. now they can do unhinged shit without restrictions

Yeah it's kinda funny how this event actually made people hate Fagni more than Vesper, despite Vesper being the boogeyman of everyone before.
I guess people hate grifting even more than being an asshole

>>57018467
>Ruined
Ame loves JP Stars too, she's a confirmed Shien gachi. She was always like this, sorry you we'rent paying attention before

>>57019683
Possibly the case for Magni, but definitely not for Vesper

>>57018406
funny that homobeggars would say otherwise if the very mild version of this applied to the girls that don't support their cause instead

>>57018049
no because vesper is a lying coward whore and was red flag. yes he can be entertaining but his work ethic is lazy as fuck. typical lazy American work ethic. magni is just a clout chaser.

>>57020026
At first I thought this ragequit from hololive was triggered by Vesper and Magni joined in. But the more I think about it the more like likely it seems that it was orchestrated by Magni and Vesper was dragged along by him. He probably whispered "you'll keep all your fans, trust me bro" type bullshit into his ear.

>>57012469

>>57019863
Ah I understand now, my bad! They should just stay at the job they don't want to be at and phone it in with shitty streams, then.

>>57020203
Good thing you can close the tab

>>57019184
Enjoy your 3 days vacation

>>57012469
Of course that would happen in the male EN branch.
For women, Hololive is the peak of their career, they won't get better numbers, sales and subs anywhere else. The only reason they'd leave is if they didn't like the job, or weren't compatible with it.
If Gura left for another company, or went back to her PL, she'd never get the same numbers, I'd be surprised if she were able to get even half.
Look at Fuwamoco, they are probably one of the fastest growing channels of all time (for "previously unknown" people anyways) with 500K subs in a month, and they get 10+k ccv every stream, and yet, they used to be literally who 3views before hololive.

Meanwhile Stars is literally second class citizens, they get shit treatment and they get shit numbers. There are many other companies that would give them a better opportunity, and in some cases, just being indie could give you better numbers.
It's no surprise that the two most popular ones decided to leave.

>>57019857
There's no way this is true

>>57020556
She didn't have the courage to dip.
I hope she falls in line if she is choosing to stay.

>>57020026
Magni defintely quit after thinking he got the clout already as his RM channel was already active for 6 months before. Vesper likely did not plan to quit initially but did so once he found out his friend Magni is leaving as he is the one Vesper was closest too. Too bad about Altare and Axel then they royally got fucked because of these 2. Anniversary plans delayed and probably scrapped. Rest of Holostars also got their big song cover delayed. Hope the JP stars complain to management so they kill the EN stars branch for this.

>>57012469
>first case
Mori

>>57020020
Yeah, she was very publicly fangirling over his 3D debut, she was live-tweeting that shit. She loves Bossu, and people who at any point after that though she was unicorn friendly are obviously very new. Magni and Vesper were never your 'competition' or whatever, she does not care about them like that all, she thirsts over someone else.

>>57012898
Thank you for describing /vt/.

>>57019176
>>57019290
>>57018829
If your fans only like you for your branding, then they shouldn't matter anyways.
True fans will follow you into better places and support you.

>>57019830
literally cuck behavior.
If the company you work for is shit, you find a better one, not that hard sea retard

>>57012469
Kinda the other way around, Lando was more successful than Magni ever got

>>57021344
>vtubing is just branding i swear guys
Yeah dude kikeson totally acts EXACTLY the same as Coco, how dare people stop watching her in the 5 digit...

>>57021344
nooooo, you dont andastaaaaand, blue dorito always good!

>>57012469
Is this the new monkeypoxxers narrative? Calling them grifters now? Holoshitters sure are pathetic

>>57021344
I don't care about branding. The fans' feelings are more important than the entertainers'. That's the job. Try saying "my feelings are more important than my clients" in any other field.

>>57012758
>kuroe
Did you mean kuroa?

Female Vtubing = NBA
Male Vtubing = WNBA

>>57012898
Yeah this is /vt/ in a nutshell we're actually closet homos that secretly watch their streams.

>>57021100
>Hope the JP stars complain to management so they kill the EN stars branch for this.
Kek. I didn’t see that one coming.

>>57021989
>Try saying "my feelings are more important than my clients" in any other field.
The client feeling DO NOT matter to you, only to your company. Unless you are the fucking boss, you shouldn't care. You should still pretend to care, otherwise you might get fired, but only retards actually care.
So yes, you should put your own personal feelings over any client.
You and your loved ones are the only people that matter in this world.

>>57018467
shouldve been a sapling instead kek. Knew Kronii was a bad seed

>>57022514
Corpo vtubers work directly for the audience. They get more money directly from their audience when their audience is happy. They have a direct client relationship with the audience. It is their job to care about the audience's feelings.

>>57012528
It's only been two days. At least wait until it's been a week to start complaining. I think a lot are just feeling vindictive since Vesper has been used for shitposting for like a year+. It'll eventually dwindle down after they've graduated.

>>57021100
RM in 2022. Class will start 2023.
Vesper wanting to quit when he is being limited to not get his perms and doing unhinged shit.

For posterity

>>57021989
"Customers are always right"
No. You don't sacrifice yourself for the company or work unless you need the job more than they need you. You look for another company or job that fits for you.
During the job, yes, you are supposed to put the clients in front of your feelings to get work done and I'm sure that's what they did.

>>57012469
>"grift off of hololive to boost your roommate"
Back in 2020 I thought Calliope Mori would do this. In truth I think she thought she would too, but then her vtuber career was more successful than she ever expected so now she's stuck with it.

>>57013071
Holy armchair psychologist, batman!

>>57012469
>incoming 500ccv on twitch

>>57012469
His fanbase made me detest the one on the right. Even amongst other homobeggars they stand out as particularly shrill.

>>57018645
Nha only the orc one should be deleted.

>>57023024
I think Mori unironically got guilt-tripped into not "hating" hololive. She definitely wanted to be a grifter in the first year or so, but the thing is that she actually read all the hate and rrats about her hating hololive, using it as a stepping stone, etc. and it made her feel guilty so she gained a new perspective. She's still kinda shitty but at least not trying to actively kill hololive with e-celeb garbage anymore.

>>57023227
fanbase reflects oshi too much. Vesper started fanning the flames constantly trying to antagonize hololive fans, so his drone fans followed suit.
It certainly doesn't help that they are largely /v/ and twitter tourists who were never attached to hololive in the first place, so they have no problems being antis.

>>57021989
Anon, it's not an entitlement it's a privilege, you get treated fairly until it turns out you are a complete shitter, then who gives a fuck about your crying ass when you get tossed out.
The problem with entertainers is that they get grinded down and will eventually make mistakes to piss off everyone, such is the spotlight of popularity.

>>57024223
she gaslighted herself to like being the idol.

dude le spear I'm such an outdoors man going on crazy epic adventures

>>57019039
Ironic

>>57012530
But anon they're not Tempus. Not anymore ;)

>>57020605
>my point
>your head
my point was blue dorito syndrome doesn't apply for magni. magni isn't even magni in his roommate, he's a fleshtuber with a different personality. he was an actor playing a role he has now retired from. deciding not to watch him now has nothing to do with "muh blue dorito".

by your actually retarded logic fans should just watch magni's roommate even though he isn't a vtuber nor has the same personality. see how retarded your response is when you flip the script?
I am so so glad you lot are banished from the community now.

>>57025733
meant for >>57018799

>>57025616
He actually did post the spear on his RM account after the graduation announcement though

>kill the Holo concert in retaliation

>>57012578
They'll still fuck your oshi regardless

>>57020784
This is actual cope.
Gura's RM got millions of views and subscribers with fucking shitpost songs, most of those not even being longer than a minute. She also barely streamed.
The only argument you can make is that she's a lazy fuck and wouldn't be consistent enough if she didn't have management tardwrangling her (and they're barely doing that as it is).
A couple others also have sizable youtube channels they could use to build a streaming audience if they weren't retarded.
Saying they have no other chance is just straight up false, it's only somewhat true for the few who were literal 2 views with no talent.

On the other hand there's 2 ways to make it as a male vtuber rn, either you pander extra hard to fujos and the likes and go hardcore BFE or you're a brotuber and you're competing with all the male fleshtubers as well.
Joining either Holo or Niji as a male is way more of a fucking huge deal than joining holo as a female. Magni had shit ccv on his RM before holo, only his YT channel was somewhat big but ultimately pretty niche and prob didn't even make that much given the upload frequency and the topics of the vids. Only reason he's been pulling more viewers is because he's been slowly transfering his audience over the course of the last year or so.
Vesper I don't even need to talk about, he wasn't big at all before holo and only had his stream and some yt vod channel.

If anything they were the ones with no chance outside of holo, Vesper likely never would have been anything but a low 3 view and the same for magni since even with a fairly successful yt channel full of what is essentially vids recorded on stream he could apparently not transfer that to twitch.

>>57012578
they will actually have no restrictions to touch them now.

>>57012528
Sorry sister but Magni and Vesper are shitcanned and we'll never stop laughing about it kek

>>57028392
they gained more for their RM channels. It's a win win for them. Better content than being restricted in holo.

>>57028538
Better content? Spam genshin and talk about femboys for the 1000th time so much better content. he is already a 3view fags already.

>>57018406
Yes.

>>57028538
You tell 'em sis

>>57012469
Fuwamoco alone proves that there is something fundamentally wrong with Cover and the hololive fanbase. I was a big fan of Akira and Makoto because i liked GGN, I didn't mind that they were small.
As soon as they made it into hololive, they flat out BLEW UP with absolutely no effort in part because they have the hololive brand stamped on them.
These days I only watch tempus and fuwamoco laregly in part because they stream during EU times. I prefer them way more compared to other holo's who are constantly overlapping and chasing american prime time.

>>57020645
>Enjoy your 3 days vacation
Ahahahahaha look at this faggot pretending he's a janny. Threads laughing at dead Homos will continue and all you can do is seethe about it.

>>57028538
Fagni unironically had better content as a vtuber his fleshtubing shit is whore twitch garbage with chinkshit gacha

>>57020020
honestly the JP stars get a pass because no one knows who the fuck they are or what they're saying. and tempiss 1 is 3 twitchfag hacks and one mentally disabled Aussie

>>57012469
Laplus did this so hard that people thought she was going to graduate with her hiatus plus her PL activities. She literally funneled people to her PL on stream.

>>57021344
ok neet

>>57025926
Did he show the stab wound scar yet

>>57028759
Can you really blame Magni? FGO content creation is dead due to the incompetence of the game developers and their obsession with delaying the end of Part 2. That and their obsession with pushing ugly male servants that pako shits out.
Genshin has more of an audience so it makes sense to do hoyoverse shit.
When it comes to gacha, the only other big ones are NIKKE and blue archive, both of which are just as successful and niche as FGO.

>>57028872
Isn that every corp? If you joined them you gain more viewers instantly. The same happens with nijisanji more so in their jp branch.

Thats the whole point of a corp it gives you an already preestablished platform (mainly for females). What you do with its your problem

>>57028911
their fans never like the blue dorito. so they wouldn't care less

>>57028759
thought you liked that shit? you didn't notice he was that kind of person when you watched him as a vtuber?

>>57029093
I dont but saying he does better content in hi rm account is a reach

>>57025926
meaning he won the war by bringing in new viewers

>>57012898
Taking a few victory laps is to be expected

>>57029093
Does genshit even bring views? Maybe for youtube videos but as far as streaming goes I can't think of anyone who actually wants to watch that shit.

>>57029268
No,Its still shit content. People saying he does better content or will do better are coping hard.

>>57028538
>It's a win win for them.
So how much merch are their RMs going to sell? Will they have any concerts? 3D birthday streams? Essentially free access to a professional mocap studio? Sponsorship deals? No? They've lost all the benefits of Cover's support and it's delusional to think their entire audience will transfer over. If not even someone beloved like Coco could retain her viewership after reincarnating into Kson then those two clownfucks have no chance.

>>57028872
They blew up because most vtuber fans outside Japan only follow Hololive, so the concept of two vtubers sharing the same channel was novel to them.

>>57029450
It does for entertainig people, not for that fagg

>>57012871
>girlpower pilled
it only shows that women can be easily wrangled into obedience.

>>57029521
Magni will stay afloat because hes part of that incestuous twitch circle. Vesper will barely be a 3view before new years eve.

>>57028339
This. They are both reasonable men who know not to shit where you eat. Now they don't eat there anymore.

>>57029365
You'll still be talking about them 6 months from now dont kid yourself

>>57012469
>First case of "grift off of hololive to boost your roommate"

>>57028223
Ask me how I know you lack the ability to read

>>57012528
congrats on your transition hope your parents are proud of you

>>57025926
Yes but buying a spear for 100 bucks doesn't make you based or make all those fake stories you told true

>>57028872
>As soon as they made it into hololive, they flat out BLEW UP with absolutely no effort in part because they have the hololive brand stamped on them.
quality things do tend to blow up once they happen upon mass exposure. why do you think so many companies spend so much on marketing? you can have the greatest product or piece of entertainment of all time and if nobody knows it exists then it's not gonna get numbers.
you also do the girls a diservice. they've been honing their craft for years and had to prove themselves just to even get into hololive. the way you talk you act as if they simply fell into this and never proved themselves, very bitter and at the same time ignorant.

>>57028872
Instead of blaming the blue dorito, just realize that people don't have time to know all 59827492 vtubers out there and thus they are never given a chance to begin with.

I could link you multiple 2views right now that are great and obviously deserve more, but if no one knows about them then where would the audience come from?
That's how it works man. Real life has a ton of talented musicians too who no one fucking knows cause no label signed them.

>>57028872
>I was a big fan of Akira and Makoto because i liked GGN, I didn't mind that they were small.
The worst thing you can wish on something you love is for it to get popular.

If you really loved them you would have heard them say that they feel like they're actually home now, so they obviously love it here. Fuwawa and Mococo are great designs too.

>>57029807
these two faggots are neither reasonable or men

>>57028872
Yeah but did they BAU BAU? Checkmate.

>>57012469
>Mr. Hands
No. He simply hated his model so much that when he had the chance to bounce as a sign of solidarity he did. Also, his other job didn't need the boost, he would have been just as popular over there if he kept making content.
>Granpire
Maybe. But his graduation has more to do with his anger issues and abject loathing of having Asian women almost half his age as his bosses.

>>57028872
you are retarded

>>57028223
I never said you can't be big as a female indie vtuber, or that you can't be big in other companies.
What I said is that, for women, Hololive is the peak. You simply can't go higher.

>If anything they were the ones with no chance outside of holo
They had shit numbers before, yes, but the point is that, for males, the ceiling is much higher outside of holo, than inside.

>le evil homos graduate
>anally prolapsed unicucks still can't stop talking about them
HOLY SHIT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>57035695
>homos graduate
>you can't stop seething about it
wew

>>57035695
>kronie is a cuck
KEK YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>57012469
Who would follow them when they bailed like this, with no goodbye and no explanation?

>>57033387
I know 1 views who have way more discipline than magni and vesper

>>57012469
I feel like Grandpa had an obligation to leave before he had a total mental collapse from the unique stress of Hololive. Probably not grifting imo.

>>57034726
I'd hate my model too if it was from an fgo artist who draws ugly males.
Give me BUNBUN and maybe we'll talk.

>>57037009
Homobeggars of course. Have you seen their subreddit? They are OPENLY shitting on Cover for having their anti-doxxing rules in place claiming it's "abusive" and "selfish". These rats come from another universe.

>>57029521
>Will they have any concerts? 3D birthday streams? Essentially free access to a professional mocap studio? Sponsorship deals? No? They've lost all the benefits of Cover's support
This really but I do think it applies more to Vesper than Magni. It's pretty obvious Magni is just going the route of your typical twitch content creator that is going to try and grow through leeching off of others and leaving vtubing. If Vesper tries to go back to vtubing sitting around playing shit like stardew he is going right back to where he started fast.

>>57029773
>>57038721
I wonder if Magni had a hand in getting Vesper to join him in graduation. I can totally imagine him whispering "dude all your fans will follow you trust me bro, your numbers will be good" into Vesper's ear kek.

>>57017611
Do yourself a favor, and get yourself checkout.

>>57038059
Anti doxing rules?

>>57038721
Vesper likes vtubing, in fact he's going back to his old vtuber account and gonna start streaming there, he just didn't like having to abide by corpo rules, he simply was not a good fit for it, hence the graduation.

>>57013155
>women are monolithic
>only men are individuals that should be judged exceptionally

>>57039460
Well women are retarded so yeah you can't really judge them, but that has nothing to do with the current discussion.

>>57039449
this sounds the most accurate and i hardly watched the guy

>>57038721
>>57039449
I can see the permissions thing being the biggest problem vesper was having, given tht he was suspended once over it. I do think magni was planning to leave and vesper, being his friend and confidant, got a bit of smoke blown up his ass, but I don't believe it wasn't purely magni that caused his departure.

>Magni and Vesper cost their genmates thousands of dollars in time and money by completely destroying both their anniversary plans and a BUNCH of other projects they were in mid development for
>Lamo here my tweet saying I don't give a fuck about fucking everyone else over by Magni
People defend this shit?

>>57039449
That just makes me wonder why he even joined Holostars in the first place. One of the first things you have to accept about going corpo is that you're going to have restrictions placed upon you.

>>57041769
Its simple, he didnt know it would be this fucking bad. Add incompetent jap manager that cant do his job properly and anyone would seethe and try to leave if things wouldnt improve, and they obviously didnt

>>57018741
based ESL-chama

>>57041769
He's notoriously impulsive and a complete retard and manchild. However I don't really buy the permissions shit being that much of an issue, he was playing tons of fucking boomer games that he liked, it's not like he had absolutely nothing to do content with.

Maybe more likely it was other offscreen shit such as the "idol reps" or whatever. He seemed to have suffered greatly from the production of his song and fucked over several people working on it due to menheraisms. (Well, he's a pathological liar so his comments are to be taken with a grain of salt).

>>57028872
Are those really those two?

>>57042219
>retard with no filter and a long career of unsteady employment because of it joins a Japanese corporation that does primarily idol work
>retard finds out that he has to actually do non-entertainment work on the side to keep his job and to follow the rules established by his employer
>WAAAH THIS IS MANAGEMENT'S FAULT!
Homoshitslurpers are something else. Altare, Axel are doing just fine towing the line, what a coincidence that the two biggest divas with undiagnosed behavioral issues quit, not because of lack of money, but because meanie managers wouldn't let them tweet or talk about making meth labs in Stardew Valley.

>>57042977
And little niggers in africa dont mind working in cobalt mines, whats your point? Just because some people dont mind dealing with random bullshit all the time doesnt mean its not a valid reason to bail

>>57042977
Tempusfags have been hating on Vesper for months now. We should really stop grouping them together.

>>57043115
I'm glad they quit, in fact, all of the Homos should quit. I find it hilarious that people are defending their poor behavior more than anything else; just because it's in their right to do so doesn't mean it's ethical behavior either. The both of them are incredibly selfish, overvalued themselves, and I personally cannot wait to see them return to their old shitty jobs trying to make ends meet while having to explain a gap in their resume because their boomer bosses wouldn't know who the fuck a vtuber is.

>>57012469
>talent bad, company good
holosanji fags

>>57042219
>he didnt know it would be this fucking bad.
And how """bad""" is that?

>>57043115
Yes, it is, and it's a valid reason to shit on them for acting this way too.

>>57043115
>NOOO BEING A PISSY, ENTITLED DIVA, SNOWFLAKE BITCHBABY IS TOTALLY VALID!!
Do you even listen to yourself
They have to record some songs and can't say nigger on stream, boo fucking hoo, let's compare it to coal workers. Retard.

>>57043526
I'm not even sure they HAVE to record the songs, either.

>>57042977
just what kind of "non entertainment" work does a " Japanese corporation that does primarily idol work" do, exactly?

>>57012469
The very two who tried to push for female collabs the most, who could have guessed!

>>57012758
add Nerissa to that list

>>57029365
>Taking a few victory laps is to be expected
How the hell is it a victory lap when
>WAAAA WHY ARE THEY LEAVING?!
THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED EVEN THOUGH I HATE THEM WITH MY EVERY FIBER!
Is literally 80% of the fucking content?
Literally abusive boyfriend logic, nigger. You fags would bitch less if they returned instead of leaving.

>>57012898
You're also describing the homobeggars kek

>>57041769
People keep parroting the Omega rrat, but I truly believe that something changed in management. Probably the initial offer of 'talent freedom' was modified.

>>57043723
Grifting off of hololive is the apex crime that causes a visceral hatred in most people here.
Magni getting more hate than fucking Vesper who was the #1 boogeyman of Stars should tell you just how offensive it is to people.

>>57043772
TRUE

>>57025568
It's not gaslighting when it's just finding out the truth.
Being an idol is great specially when it's a virtual one since you can still keep your RM life going without many changes.

>>57043837
It's hardly a rrat, Omegatroon's account literally got purged from all hololive stuff, and then a few weeks later this Dimitri Jap guy shows up out of nowhere as the new face of EN management.

>>57043723
>THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED
sister you're projecting your real feelings about this
sorry you lost your oshi

>>57043526
>NOOOO YOU CANT LEAVE THIS JOB BECAUSE THAT MAKES YOU A LITTLE BITCH SNOWFLAKE
you should listen to yourself instead
Nigga made a calculation that his current circumstances aint worth the work and nerves and chose to bail, simple as. Just because your mouth is full of that blue dorito cock doesnt change the fact that at the end of the day its still just a shitty jap corpo. And you cant even use girls as an argument here, they make millions for simply existing so their patience for bullshit will obviously be off the fucking charts.

>>57043941
Sisters fucking hate Vesper and Magni right now. The people defending them are the genuine “Homobeggars” that constantly push for collabs.

>>57043936
>Dimitri Jap
Still can't believe this is his actual name

>>57043985
so true sis

>>57043772
The homobeggar actually likes the homos though
It is normal to make threads about things you actually like
>>57043941
LOOK AT THE FUCKING OP
I wanted them to stay, but I like them. OP is a different story, and so are 80% of the post here."Waaa they should have stayed so I could talk shit on their face waaa"
Literally abusive boyfriend behavior.

>>57043851
Magni is not getting more hate, because all the things he probably do are now being attributed to Vesper. Unicorns are unironically in love with the guy.

>>57044116
lurk harder, he has anti threads up right fucking now while vesper has none
even in /MANS/ they hate him

The truth is that Vesper is gonna be much happier being a 3view indie, he might have made some people unhappy but looking at it from his perspective leaving Holostars makes complete sense.

>>57044073
>I wanted them to stay
I know you already admitted early.
Sorry you lost your oshi sister but there is no stopping this victory lap
You should leave the site if you can't handle it before you start self harming

>>57044001
That is 99% of the Chinese people that work in the west. They made up a name and start using it.

>>57044187
Again, I'm seething not because he's leaving. I'm seething when /vt/ is like:
>Oh shit why are the faggots leaving? Fuck them
>This is totally a victory celebration! No I don't miss their cock, why?
It doesn't add up, even from emotional standpoint. You should be happy of them leaving.

>>57044312
>You should be happy of them leaving.
We are. This is a victory lap.

>>57044312
>I'm seething
thread was effective in achieving its goal then, sis.

>>57044163
People in /mans/ are coping with magmite prime and other larps. Vesper on the other hand is still the focus of those threads, not even the drama of Niji is peddled for such long time.

>>57044312
What brainrot causes you to think mocking people for being grifters and being happy they are fucking off are somehow mutually exclusive things? It doesn't make sense.
You just want people to stop talking about them because you can't cope. Same shit as the "hurr you're so obsessed for STILL making threads about this extremely recent event that is barely 2 days old" narrative you sisters tried.

>>57044514
>mocking people for being grifters
>when like half of the posts are "NOOOOOOOOO HOW DARE THEY WASTE THIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY FOR WORK AT OUR GOD AND SAVIOR COVER CORP"
come on now, while some sure are just mocking theres a fuckton of seethe as well

>>57044749
Ok so what is mutually exclusive about "seething" about someone and being happy they are gone?

>>57044749
>theres a fuckton of seethe as well
Yeah, from you

>>57018406
I doubt they are fans but they are blindly siding with Cover when they have no idea why Vesper and Magni were fired. They got their redesigns, went radio silent for 6 weeks, and got a double termination with no explanation. That is even more suspicious than the health breaks that Sana had in the months before her graduation.

>>57044937
>it was their wish to graduate
Stop coping nigger, Cover isn't at fault for your grifting snakes being grifting snakes

>>57022997
i just looked up that video and now they are gone i belive that rrat

>>57018741
Just look at Sayu/Zaion. Her viewship has gone way down after the "fired from Niji" buff wore off.

huh, another thread where homobeggars are being holoantis.

>>57018947
>being THIS new
go back ironic weeb

>>57043635
Meetings, future projects, planning? You know, things to ensure the business stays afloat? What are you, a fucking moron?

Couldn't these fags at least stick with the company until the anniversary stream was over instead of leaving axel and the blue twink on their own?

>>57012469

>>57012469
>first case
>gura
>mori
>mumei
>kronii

>>57054536
>gura
already over 1M before hololive
>mori
somewhat successful musician already, hates idolshit before hololive
>mumei
>kronii
still in company unlike their former genmate sana, the back-hort from grifting.

>>57054536
The only way this post makes sense to me is that you're trying to bait people to correct you then get banned for doxxing

>>57054873
Working a job isn't grifting

>>57054536
>Mumei
>Kronii
explain, I don't know their roomate

>leave hololive
>first thing they do is play Stardew Valley, a game that, for some fucking reason, Hololive isn't allowed to play
Man, they REALLY fucking hated the perms shit, huh.

>>57012469
>Magni
his roommate was bigger anyways, he's just menhara
>Vesper
yeah

>>57054873
Gura only hit 1m after Hololive.
Mori wasn't even remotely close to succesful but doxxbeats will tell you that she was clearly close to going uphill fr fr the graphs show it™

>>57044173
>but looking at it from his perspective leaving Holostars makes complete sense.
he made $5k eating burgers and faking tummy hort. how does this make sense? he could have done more of his twitch tier reaction streams and made off with thousands.

>>57055701
Heck it would not surprise me if that was something he wanted to do, but it got shot down.
Someone like vesper could have made that work very well.

>>57013071
The REAL grim truth is that back in the day people would watch marlon brando because he was a cool guy. Men would call him a man's man and boys would wish their father was him and no one would have a problem with that. Only in the estrogenated modern society where looking for heroes and admiring your dad is seen as 'chuddies who want daddy' by seething whores who spend every waking moment angry at their father and brainfucked omegamales who, in all likelihood, are losers because their father failed them is it considered normal to hate male figures just because men like them.

>>57059586
>phasebrown
Literally didn't read

>>57018406
Hi vesper

>>57018283
He won't. Tucker Carlson was the golden boy of FOX news network, he had a ton of influence in the network and politically, and when he got canned he said his viewers would follow him to Twitter. They didn't.

>>57013071
Yeah it's been weird watching them trying to say he's "based for life" and "/here/'s king" and shit. They're one step away from calling him "Sir" unironically.

>>57049331
Bullshit, the live chat is still there, that means the video was not edited.

>>57051917
He just thinks you meant sucking dicks, like we live in a fucking doujin.

>>57012469
>Sana
>Laplus
>Noel
>Calli
>>57019975
They were both pretty bad. I had a little more patience with Magni until he RM seethed about his "work uniform". Like motherfucker you literally just started. The biggest fucking vtuber in the world still had stream with a flat face and you're out here crying.

>>57012528
God damn they're absolutely seething with rage at you.

Good job anon.

>>57028872
retard, that's like fans of an indie band getting salty that they signed with a label and blew up

>>57020020
She never collabed with JP stars (and she did with mel and roboco despite the language barrier) so nobody cared. She was likely just being a company woman then too.

Twitchtard grifting faggots left after getting their Clout?

Yeah that literally what the unicorn shits had been claiming the WHOLE FUCKING TIME, and you know what? They were fucking right. Thanks faggots.

>>57059907
Fox lost a ton of viewers. Tucker doesn’t have the equivalent of his show on twitter yet but he punches above his weight with big guests and is payed 20M a year by fox in the meantime.

>>57019188
Problem, homodicksucker?

>>57018406
The replies to this just shows how much holofaggots are simultaneously corpo cock-riders but also ultra entlited about streamers. It must be hard for them, they are so irrelevant irl they need to feel some type of power towards the entertainment they consume

>>57071283
Supply and demand are both things. Streamers that tell customers to fuck off are themselves entitled and deserve the reduced incone and ccv for the most part. I’m mostly pro hololive but call them out when they make mistakes. The anti-parasocial nij stuff just enables entitled chubbas to rationalize bad behavior IMO.

>>57059586
You think there isn't a difference between Marlon Brando and a 38y old pathologic liar playing video games online with an anime avatar?

>>57019039
im sorry your shiori hate thread died sister

Magni viewer since day one. It was obvious he’s been one foot out the door for a while. He used to do high effort streams like judge Magni, one night werewolf, etc. then he stopped and started doing shitty short streams.

>>57071122
Tucker is also getting under-the-table propaganda money from Russia.

>>57070955
meh in a month or two they'll go back to being irrelevant, they were 2 view shitters for a reason.

>>57054873
>mori
>somewhat successful musician already
lol

>>57012469
I wish them both a fate worse than Rushia and Aloe combined.

>>57012469
they are winning so keep seething.

>>57012469
>LaPlus (Biggest one to this days)
>Sana
>Noel
>Kronii
>Mori

>>57059907
>Tucker Carlson was the golden boy of FOX news network, he had a ton of influence in the network and politically, and when he got canned he said his viewers would follow him to Twitter. They didn't.
No fucking way you wrote this.

>>57018467
They didn't "ruin" anyone, Kronii was always a wreck. It takes two to make shitty choices together.

>>57020020
I've always wondered if Shien even knows Ame is a fan of his.

>>57059586
Are you really comparing Marlon Brando and fucking Andrew Taint?

Man, you're posting Lumi but you're even more stupid than I thought

>>57012528
They got terminated.

>>57076813
Makes me wonder if he would have stayed if his model wasn't so shit. If I auditioned for Hololive and was offered either Magni, Sana, or IRyS 1.0's designs I would seriously reconsider.

>>57012898
How much time do people think making a thread makes?

>>57059586
>comparing Marlon Brando to https://youtu.be/nYYO6ZwV5Nc?si=KoJS4zUZll-znm72

>>57054873
Newfag piece of shit. Gura as Gura beat every milestone that she had before. Mori's most famous song had 50k, or around that.

>>57022997
>>57049331
It could be that simple and seems very likely now and if that is the case its no one's fault but them self. They should have just taken the deal this time and just held off because they did not stand out like the other girls and members to get the extra stuff they wanted in the contract.

>>57085080
No, that would be Rushia, these guys graduated.

>>57020020
>>57021242
Holy based she's just like me frfr

So why did they get fired?

>>57098842
Gay sex.

>>57092315
>No, that would be Rushia, these guys graduated.
So they waited until Vesper got his 2.0 model, Magni posted that cryptic statement about repaying his debts, and both of them went radio silent for 6 weeks before deciding to graduate at exactly the same time? That series of events is even more suspicious than Sana's "health break" suspensions followed by that graduation stream where they didn't have call ins or video messages. Cover isn't going to admit they got fired but the timing indicates that Vesper and Magni had already renewed their yearly contracts.

>>57098842
>So why did they get fired?
They were both friends with Kronii. Maybe she was asking management for a redesign and they got involved with that after getting their own redesigns.

>>57108043
If they were upfront with terminating Rushia and all the bad PR that (potentially) entailed due to the idiocy of the situation, they would have been upfront about terminating these two.
You might hate them, but don't let that cloud your understanding of reality.

It's always so clear homo fans are 23 year old gay zoomers or women/trannies.

>>57012528
Well said first poster

>>57012528
fpbp

>>57108400
Yeah, if they can be transparent on Rushia, there's no way they'd spare Vesper and Magni any deserved indignity

>>57012469
Vesper at least did his vtuber reps before joining, Magni is a grifting hack who is stuck in a 2008 sketch comedy phase who actively makes WORSE content outside of his shit as Magni
I don't think that retard legit gives a single fuck about vtubing nor the culture or how people take it seriously. His fans legit deserved better than a oh woe is me fraud who was forced to do something other than say how much he wants Astolfo to ram his asshole for cheap laughs

>>57012528
/thread

>>57108400
Vesper and Magni getting fired because they were trying to help Kronii get a redesign would explain how negotiations could go badly in a way they wouldn't expect. They would consider that a reasonable action but it would make Japanese management furious since they were interfering with company business. Also Cover had reason to explain why they fired Rushia while they usually prefer to keep their graduations as vague as possible.

>>57115497
Youre mentally ill and mindbroken

>>57022997
The video is taken down. Can anyone tldr?

>>57085640
If I got Sana's design I'd be swinging those chocolate milk planetoids around and enjoying the hell out of it.

>>57013030
If Tempus can’t build a box of its own for fans of the males, then what even is the point?

I would be tempted to say Hololive needs to improve their scouting and hiring desperately but Advent was a big success. And looking at Niji and other companies, Cover is actually far above the pack in talent acquisition.

They just need to avoid menheras. Seriously, why would you ever hire a guy with obvious anger management and other behavioral issues, especially as an entertainer? He's one gamer moment away from wrecking your brand.

>>57043635
Do you think Japan’s entertainment industry grew this big just by selling shit? The companies collab and do cross-media projects to encourage fans to buy more stuff. A big reason for Cover’s value to its idols is the connections. They have the connections to give HoloX a manga when they debuted ffs. Cover had to have a guy pitch the idea to the publishing house and draw up charts showing the revenue flows from previous collabs while probably also explaining HoloX’s lore and how they plan to make future gens flexible enough to potentially get added to the manga if it’s successful, blah blah blah.
There’s a reason they have all these drama CDs and Weiss Schwarz packs and mobile games. They want to encourage weebs to buy more merch and media adaptations.
Anyway, Cover is the best vtubing company at doing all this. That’s the reason Hololive feels so much like anime sometimes. It’s because they collab with the same companies that promote, adapt, and shill their products that the anime studios work with.

>>57012528
Based

>>57012528
/vt/ was always tsundere for these two, you niggers literally spent LESS time celebrating their termination than going right back to obsessing over them

they're gone, they aren't coming back, you got the victory - move on, go watch your oshi lol

>>57012469
please use their old models next time you shitpost.
i miss the malformed face and the chin that can pierce the heavens

>>57077074
>the russians want americans to be angry that america is getting objectively worse because the government is run by 80yo retards
Based russia.

>>57012469
lol let's be real, they got fired for trying to fuck the Holos. They made it too obvious.

>>57116689
the video's still up
https://streamable.com/twvwlw

>>57120978
The answer is because there's a guy in this thread who said "UNICORNS PREDICTED THIS" but actual unicorns just stop caring when cgdct gets interrupted, they don't actually obsess. There's a type of person who uses unicorning as a way to anti, because anti-ing produces drama for them to get a dopamine rush from when it happens.

/vt/'s resident """unicorns""" are actually dramafags and they're obsessed with vesper and magni because they were great sources of drama for dramafags.

>>57121768
not what an orc said. left like a boss villain and fuck blue dorito supremacy.

>>57113168
>>57113849
>>57114964
>>57120978
>>57120742
Kys sis

>>57122408
Cope

>>57123521
They are both very obviously gay men and I don't know why this is a problem, unless NTR is actually your fetish.

>>57124058
Cope