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>> No.5670764

Shouldn't you post the top 25?

>> No.5670799
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Aqua, what happened?

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>>5670709
This is not the usual numbers thread. Where is the usual anon, anon?

>> No.5670881
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>>5670709
full list

>> No.5670912

>>5670799
She's reading SC. She was at 11k at some point.

>> No.5670915

seems like less people give a shit about lulu´s graduation, she couldnt even break 20k

>> No.5670936
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5670936

>Top 10 image
Why do you have to be such a faggot, OP?

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>>5670799
Here's a hint

>> No.5670949

>>5670881
Gura only 9k? Declining?

>> No.5670974

>>5670949
I heard she has the highest view of the shilling streams of the game from the other numbers thread

>> No.5670975

>>5670799
This will hurt her confidence more than a thousand dislikes

>> No.5671016
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>>5670915
Tbh, I don't even know she exists in the first place.
The time I got introduced to her is the time she got graduated

>> No.5671140

>>5670709
I'm just curious, are those numbers applied to all of those streamers or just the vtuber one?
Is youtube and twitch the only platform to stream on?

>> No.5671167

>>5670709
What the fuck happened to niji females, bros? Are they on strike or something? Why aren't they streaming anymore?

>> No.5671197

>>5670940
I cant read it, except for that file name

>> No.5671198

>>5670974
She did

>> No.5671205

>>5671167
Pretty sure Lulu is a Niji female

>> No.5671216

>>5670974
Asides from Pekora. The only time Pekora's number went down was when she did that watchalong shill.

>> No.5671226

>>5671167
They're having sex with me, sorry.

>> No.5671232

>>5671205
not for long

>> No.5671256

>>5670949
It's a literal shill stream for an Anime RPG. This is not in the ballpark of what Gura's audience would play at all.

>> No.5671263

>>5671216
What I meant was, the shilling of the game Red Nexus or whatever it was called

>> No.5671281

>>5670915
Some people do care, its just that she is a female in Manjisanji. That is the biggest debuff in all of vtubing.

>> No.5671287
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5671287

>OPEN OFFER STILL IN THE TABLE
Ask thinks about your Oshi (or general) live viewers stats, if Holostats has the dat aI can make the chart.
> pic related
Only the most number-blessed anons will know what the red and blue straight lines mean

>> No.5671302

>>5671287
Aki...

>> No.5671306
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5671306

How will the festival work? It seems like that the whole HoloEN will join. Numbers wise, this will won't be too big of a draw if all of the jp talents stream at the same time too

>> No.5671347

>>5670949
That's the power of 2.9M subscribers

>> No.5671349
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>>5670949
Yeah, she sabotages herself with a kusoge and a sponsored "watchalong". She even cancels tomorrow's stream to participate in the Usaken festival.

>> No.5671356

>>5671306
They will divide the fans attention, they most likely wont get big numbers individually except for a few I guess

>> No.5671358

>>5671016
Average holobrony newfag right here. You people are so new it's disgusting. You don't even try to hide you came straight from reddit a week ago.

>> No.5671372

>>5670949
Always has been

>> No.5671393

>>5670949
Wait for the vod views

>> No.5671431

>>5671358
Nta, but you don't have to be new to not give a fuck about nijis

>> No.5671452

>>5671216
Nah she did a Bravely Default 2 shill stream that did really badly for her

>> No.5671456

I don’t really get the idea that Nijisanji members get more likes on twitter than Hololive members do because of the topic they belong to when Hololive is also under some topics, like Anime and Manga and I think Digital Creators

>> No.5671465

>>5671431
Everyone who isn't a total newfag who only watches reddit shark knows who Lulu is. She's the only Niji that's popular among holobronies.

>> No.5671470

>>5671356
I hope Botan don't do that. She's the organizer after all. It's going to be chaotic to have like 20 to 30 people streaming at the same time.

>> No.5671516

>>5671465
>reddit shark
When did this become a thing anyway? What are the meta numbers on the acceptance of this forced meme?

>> No.5671526
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>>5671302
Sadly Aki never ever manage to incline. She surely needs to step up her game because her SEO sucks and she doesn't have a single claim to fame
> her ASMR used to be good but then Susan took exception to that
> her belly dancing is AMAZING but that doesn't really translate well into the format
She would make an AMAZING E-THOTH but as a regular Holo she has no chance

>> No.5671594

>>5671526
Aki... your meta reps...

>> No.5671604

>>5671516
Roughly the same as the number of people that say "holobronies", 1.

>> No.5671615

>>5670949
Please andastand EN audience won't watch anything that isn't Minecraft

>> No.5671625

>>5671516
Honestly, I rarely hear that term when people address Gura here, most calls her meme shark

>> No.5671629

>>5671456
Japan use Twitter a lot. More than EOPs. A lot of people from NA will miss what a Holo will say because they would post it on Twitter without bothering of putting it on their community page. Only dedicated fans and/or people that already use Twitter will follow Hololive. That's why you would see people not bothering to check content that isn't featured in the Vtuber's channel or main Holo Channel. They just watch what is on their feed or subscription box.

>> No.5671654

>>5671629
That makes more sense

>> No.5671661

>>5671287
how much of a boost was Nenes redesign?
the change was on the 31.01.2021

>> No.5671678

>>5671629
But because most EOP fans use Reddit, the r/hololive is quite active

>> No.5671710

>>5671615
Pekora got 20k, Nene and Suisei got 10k and above numbers shilling that bleach game.

>> No.5671724

>>5670709
Fucking Kuzuha man, I don't lnow how he does it

>> No.5671761

>>5671516
Her fans are redditors, newfags and ironic weeb bandwagoners along with the rest of the EN trash. No further explanation needed.

Thank God she's reclining though.

>> No.5671766
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5671766

>Reflect has 3.5M views
Are we taking bets on this making it Past 4M before the 7th day?

>> No.5671777

>>5671724
Yeah, he gets mogged by Hololive daily. Takes a lot of talent to do that.

>> No.5671791

>>5671710
And Gura's first shilling stream of the game got more than 10K viewers(this is actually the second time she shills for the game)

>> No.5671795

>>5671678
usually their tweets gather more likes than reddit posts. But you could argue that anyone is more loyal than tweetfags.

>> No.5671826

>>5671724
actually be entertaining

>> No.5671833

>>5671016
Lulu is quite popular amidst Hololive fans, a lot of people, me included, would be very happy seeing her debut in Hololive in the future whenever she has to fallback to vtubing for a living.

>> No.5671842
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>>5671594
As you can see in that chart even in her bestest day (Akukin relay) she failed
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cwtw2f-95c
she failed to go above average.

My day job is to analyze this exact type of data and get companies to fix problems with their poorly performing products (or their overall performance when they don't have a product per se).
Aki (and Luna)? Only a full rebranding would fix it. Good thing Cover are not numberfags and will smooth out the performance by giving the girls a base salary and relative freedom to do what they please

>> No.5671867

>>5671761
>attributing the faults of others on people you dislike just because you dislike them
Do you work for IMAX? Cause you seem to be projecting real good there.

>> No.5671935

>>5671842
Luna got 7k yesterday during her piano streams. She's also doing a concert so I don't think she's that bad. While I understand why people want Aki to get better numbers, her SCs are better than most. She does a lot of twitcast too that also generates money so I don't think they need a rebrand.

>> No.5671982

>>5670709
Milestone endurance streams usually get a decent viewer boost, but Suityan is slightly bellow her recent utawaku average. Is the Ghost+TamakiCollab+MyHoney boost starting to wear off?

>> No.5672014
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>>5671661
>how much of a boost was Nenes redesign?
She got a short term incline in live viewers but it didn't stick. Right now she's following the overall trend
>pic related
without getting on par with Hololive's average.

Nene has immense potential to break into the Spanish market due to memes but JP is king and she doesn't really have a grasp of that market

>> No.5672029

>>5671167
My niji oshi Ars is streaming everyday and it's not APEX and that's all that matters.

>> No.5672079

>>5672014
Do you have charts for everyone?

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>>5671358
Nah, I just don't care about Nijisanji thread and something related to that. Being ignorant is a thing you know

>> No.5672109

Out of the blue question
Will AI's B-day stream overlap with Lulu's graduation stream?
They are both on the 30th

>> No.5672128

>>5671777
>Holos can only compete with some manjisanji faggot if they have hundreds of thousands of subs more.
>Even then it's only Pekora who can beat him on a regular basis.
lmao.

>> No.5672129

>>5672014
>She got a short term incline in live viewers but it didn't stick. Right now she's following the overall trend
yeah thats about how i remember it as well. she did manage to get some memes in her viewers going that lead to a boost in SC tho and just her switching to doing SC readings alowed her to boost that catergory quite well. Overall her whole situation is very similiar to Flares

>> No.5672131

>>5671710
How did Pekora get 20k playing that shill game when Gura didn't even break 10k

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>>5672079
>Do you have charts for everyone?
JEJ, I'm making them from Holostats data as they're requested.
Again, that's by day job and I use these silly challenges to improve my data analysis skills.

>> No.5672167

>>5671306
They should just do like the sports festival, small groups with only one of them streaming, that way we would have 8 streams at most, similar to an Among Us Collab.

En one stream, ID one stream and divide the Jp girls into 4-5 groups.

>> No.5672189

>>5671358
I only watch HoloEN. I actually like being able to understand what I'm watching.

>> No.5672201
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>>5672129
>and just her switching to doing SC readings alowed her to boost that catergory quite well.
I will "supplement" my dataset with playboard SC dat and HoloTracker subs data very soon, along with fetching VOD data fro Holostats.
Then I'll be in a position to compare ALL metrics for any video for any Hologirl
> I can genuinely fap to this sort of data bounty
Not even kidding

>> No.5672207

>>5672144
Nice work anon, can you do a chart with the 5 ENs plotted seperately?

>> No.5672260

>>5671842
>>5671935
The only saving grace for Aki on the YouTube viewership department is that she somehow lucks into being the pre-eminent Ark 2 VTubers assuming the sequel of the game ends up actually being so good that even EOPs would play this dino autismo game.

>> No.5672320

>>5672201
>I can genuinely fap to this sort of data bounty
well you are in the right thread for that

>> No.5672328

>>5671470
She already explained that's exactly how it's going to work. Everybody is invited and it's up to each holo to choose whether they want to stream or not. This is going to be a big event in total numbers, save for maybe some moment where they focus on a single stream it's not going to pull huge numbers on any single channel.

>> No.5672365

>>5672105
You would know who Lulu is if you browsed /hlg/ on /jp/ before. Just admit you're a leddit tourist.

>> No.5672410

>>5671795
>you could argue that anyone is more loyal than tweetfags
You're thinking like a western. Most hardcore nip fans are active on twitter, specially gachikois hoping to draw as much attention as they can from their oshi.

>> No.5672436

>>5670709
Yup, this is the normal numbers thread. I don't see Tomoe anywhere tho. Where did she go?

>> No.5672536 [DELETED] 

>>5672410
But from the other number thread that talked about this, the niji twitter indeed have a high like and quote retweet count but not much interaction/comments unlike the holo twitter where they'll have high likes, quote retweets and interaction/comments

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>>5672207
>Nice work anon, can you do a chart with the 5 ENs plotted seperately?
Gotta say I'm absolutely
>FLOORED
by how much Gura carries the whole thing. It is not really usual in a 5 datasets chart to have
>1 above the average
>4 below the average

Ina is a monster as well, and an underrated one too.

>> No.5672579

>>5671982
Not the usual hours. 8pm JST is primetime, this one was at 3pm

>> No.5672588

>>5671766
Her original slow song will beat this number.
If you check her karaoke clipper channels,
her slow covers get 5x - 10x more viewers than weeb covers.

>> No.5672607
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5672607

>VNUMA Gura
>Check Scarlet Nexus
>9k peak viewrs
>Barely above 100k viewrs at the end of live
>Check YouTube
>see pic related
This might ACTUALLY make a difference in the game sales after all...

>> No.5672720

>>5671393
>>5672607
Gura always performs best with vod views

>> No.5672723

>>5672260
Aki needs a storyline.
Hololive gets a lot of new viewership from anime watchers,
if she can't capitalize on that,
then her growth rate will remain still.

>> No.5672777

>>5672570
Thanks! Yeah, Ina is actually the one I was most interested in. I always get the impression her numbers consistently good, so I've never understood why she's always at the bottom with kiara in terms of subs. But she's my oshi, so I suspected I might just be biased.

>> No.5672787

>>5672607
>scarlet nexus goes after the two members with the most subs
>no one gives a shit
deserved

>> No.5672796

>>5670799
21 DLC isn't exactly interesting...

>> No.5672853

>>5672787
If you go through her twitter post about playing the game a lot of people said they were going to get it now. Shilling works or else these companies would stop doing it.

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>>5672607
Mori 86k

>> No.5672898
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>>5672570
Still about Gura: anyone in this thread has Gura as his Oshi an can answer this:
> Did Gura took a vacations or changed her content in ANY WAY AT ALL on November 19, 2020?

That's the start of her recline, even earlier than Youtube changing the algo. I can check the names of the streams to see what got dropped by the opinion of people that actually live and die for her is more useful
>pic related
Everybody got their live viewers dropped by half on Dec 2 but Gura got hers a week or two earlier

>> No.5672932

>>5672131
Gura actually broke 10k for a short moment.
https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/gura
Pekora usual number is ~25k.
20k is a debuff.
Her Bravely Default 2 got 13k, and if she would do a second shill stream on BD2, then she wouldn't maintain 10k either.

>> No.5672947

>>5672588
Reflect has 150K views per day on Spotify

>> No.5672968

>>5672144
November going into December I could chalk it up to Youtube making its live viewer changes. I'm guessing Jan to March is when the bubble actually popped?
Since then it seems like they've been steadily growing.

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>>5672796
But Marine did pretty good with it...

>> No.5672991

Combining all platforms,Gura already pass 4M views.

>> No.5673001

>>5672898
Was this after she passed the 1M milestone?

>> No.5673043

>>5672898
Wasn't it around that time Youtube was suspected to be hiding actual numbers?

After all, a virtual loli was getting 50-60k in her first month, more than their signed streamers.

>> No.5673057

>>5672607
>>5672897
Gura has more than double the vod views in less time

>> No.5673078

>>5672588
Basically no way for her second song to beat the hype of the first.
Maybe if it takes another 9 months enough hype will build up.
>>5672777
I'd say it's not so much that her numbers are consistently good but more that she doesn't play long series or unpopular games.
Like her numbers massively dropped between the first and second Lobocorp stream and I remember she dropped it after the 3rd.

>> No.5673081

>>5672986
This was when the hype was still there for these games. Aqua played it after everyone has weeks after. It also hurts that Korone is playing a meme game and Pekora is playing MC.

>> No.5673087

>>5673057
no shit

>> No.5673108

How much money does 1 view get?

>> No.5673134

>>5672898
I dimly remember that being around the time where she stopped horror kusoge.

>> No.5673182

>>5673078
If her second song is a jpop like ride on time or a slow English song then it will break numbers. A lot of people were expecting those songs and are still hoping to get one.

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>>5672968
>November going into December I could chalk it up to Youtube making its live viewer changes.
>>5673043
>Wasn't it around that time Youtube was suspected to be hiding actual numbers?
That was December 2, it is annotated in that chart. Her recline started a little earlier

>>5673001
>Was this after she passed the 1M milestone?
Way after, she did on October 22.


YOU GUYS WILL LAUGH but I may have figured it out and the reason may (or may not) be as retarded as this
> Her stream on November 15 2020 was the last one she used the #gawrgura hashtag
She nosedived right after she stopped using that hashtag
Knowing what I know about SEO that might as well be the reason. The only way to determine that would be starting to use it again in the stream titles and see if it has any impact
>pic related
Again, this is my day job and if I was being hired to help her team that would be my first recommendation.
>COVER IF YOU ARE HEARING: DO IT FAGGOTS!

>> No.5673217

>>5673078
The slow songs won't have that explosive start,
but they will have higher consistent weekly numbers.

>> No.5673254

Reflect being the first song is a smart choice.
This is a character song.

>> No.5673255

>>5671982
No, Suichan just happened to reach 1M before she could even start the stream.

>> No.5673271

>>5672947
Are there numbers for other vtuber songs on spotify?

>> No.5673298

>>5673187
seems like she only uses
#holoMyth
#hololiveEnglish
now

>> No.5673303

>>5672932
Isn't Bleach popular? I never read or seen it but have heard of it.

>> No.5673313

>>5672365
Nobody cares about your niji whore, deal with it

>> No.5673341

>>5673271
You can check Spotify. From my observation, Hololive dominates Vtuber songs on Spotify cause it's not a major platform in Japan

>> No.5673347

>>5673298
Again, I was able to monetize by autism so my day job is to do this exactly type of analysis (except with some 10000x more data involved).
I would recommend start using that hashtag again and any customer of the company I work for would take that to heart

>> No.5673366

>>5673187
lol you are probably right.

I should deep dive in her data and see more perspective. We could sort these by games and see related live views/vod views and date. To see, what interests viewers; game, watch live or vod.

then compare it to Pekora. No doubt rabbit has consistent data.

>> No.5673369

>>5673187
> Again, this is my day job and if I was being hired to help her team that would be my first recommendation.

I think she realized this after two months into the game.
She developed a huge imposter syndrome,
and started debuffing herself.

>> No.5673384

Top 20 songs on Spotify, Calli has 10 excepct Ibasho,half anniversary BGM,and spiral tones.

>> No.5673408

>>5673303
I heard it reclined hard in its final years

>> No.5673413

>>5673369
I wouldn't like it if that's the case. She should maximize her popularity as it will in turn lift her colleagues.

>> No.5673432

>>5673313
Well hololive fans care about that particular 'niji whore', anon

>> No.5673433

>>5672410
So are hardcore holofans or even vshojofans, but im not talking about that minority, I'm talking about most of the faggots who frequent it. They like it and then forget about it at the next minute.

>> No.5673478

>>5673366
Pekora seems to only use
#ぺこらいぶ
Hololive in general could learn how to play the hashtag game.

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>>5673187
I'm not sure about that. Still a good job btw. I think it has more to do with the games she is choosing to play nowadays.

>> No.5673506

>>5673108
It's about 4-6 dollars every thousand views, but those figures are pre covid so you should probably half that.

>>5673432
No they don't, and your little squatter's den in /jp/ are "hololive fans" the same way the nijiniggers who harrassed Chigusa for singing Virtual to life are nijifans.

>> No.5673538

>>5673413
I think that's the problem, she seems to purposely debuffing herself to not be popular judging from, if I recall correctly, her not celebrating her 1M milestone, a very important event that time, and Kiara has to convince her to 'celebrate' her 2 M milestone

>> No.5673550

>>5673108
usually half a cent per view (some sources say 1 cent), if you are monetized (I think all holos are), but those are for normal ads. The streamer can receive more if you actually watch the whole of it, but i dont know how much more.

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>>5673479
Here is another example. It's a yoyo. She plays something good, viewers show up, play something old or uninteresting, viewership goes down

>> No.5673587

>>5673408
It did, they were running out of source material so they started inserting pointless filler arcs and extending the actual material that they did have by dragging out single fights for 12 episodes each.

>> No.5673614

>>5673587
Ah yes, the dragon ball z syndrome.

>> No.5673629

So the VOD views are still worthy, money talks.

>> No.5673638

>>5670709
Seems like they're hyping up Ibrahim's 3D debut but iirc isn't it also on the same day as Lulu or Coco's graduation? I remembered it was tweeted yesterday about an announcement of his 3D coming a week later.

>> No.5673653

>>5673369
Poor Gura. She definitely deserves being the top Holo since she's the most entertaining.
She should stop debuffing herself.

>> No.5673714

>>5673538
I don't think she's debuffing herself on purpose. Most of the games she is choosing to play do have a trend. She likes DMC so she played the older version. She said she wanted to play an easy so she started playing SM. She still chooses rhythm games and/or horror themed games because she likes playing those too.

>> No.5673721

>>5670936
Gura
>9k

>> No.5673722

>>5673638
It's the day after Coco's

>> No.5673731

>>5673538
The way that she celebrated it was also obtuse. I understand that celebrating her success in Hololive by singing songs of fellow Holos is commendable and respectable, but after having more or less dodged your 1M sub celebration it just makes anyone think that it was more "scripted" than anything. A nominal acknowledgement of her popularity that makes her uncomfortable to such degree that just Ame mentioning her status made her recoil. lol

>> No.5673739

>>5673638
He's doing it the day after Coco's graduation

>> No.5673785

>>5673721
The VOD views are what matters

>> No.5673822

>>5673506
Last I read was average CPM of 3.5$
45% of that goes to Google and I believe ad Viewrate is around 30%

>> No.5673834

>>5672365
Reddit loves Lulu though, even Holo reddit.
It's mostly new people around here, who probably came in during her long break, that seem to be ignorant.

>> No.5673844

>>5673538
I wonder how can we express privately, that her, being at the top is good for her colleagues and the company.

Gura barely streams, at most, that should be her priority whenever she does - get as much engagement as possible. Her brand is valuable.

>> No.5673885

>>5673785
VoD views are literally irrelevant to Holo monetisation.

>> No.5673900
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5673900

>>5673479
>Still a good job btw.
Anon, plz. Look at >>5672570 again, she's the hard carry for all of HoloEN with regards to live viewers. "A good job" is less than an euphemism, it is insulting to the crazy figures she's pulling

>>5673366
>>5673478
Pekora is not comparable either with Holos or with streamers in General. She was arguably the biggest beneficiary of the chinks going apeshit with West Taiwan stuff because that's the highlighted incline point she never ever reclined from in this chart.

She did EVERYTHING right from that point on
>she became arguably the "face of Hololive" with regards to what goes on the Minecraft server, likely the biggest draw of collective attention to the brand as a whole
>she NEVER EVER EVER EVER takes time off except that one time she got pissed with management for some reason, and even then she came back really fast
>she streams EVERY DAY at the same schedule (more or less)

It is not even fair to compare anyone to Pekora with regards to Live Viewers at this point, it's like comparing anyone to Michael Jordan, Schumacher or Cristiano Ronaldo.

With that said it is a pure meme that Gura is too far behind Pekora
>pic related
This comparison would be worse for most if not any other girl except maybe Marine

>> No.5673905

>>5673834
Are they even allowed to post about non holos on the hololive reddit?

>> No.5673948

>>5673731
I don't think it was particularly obtuse, karaoke for celebration is extremely common.

>> No.5674004

>>5673885
Some content creators would kill to have the same amount of VOD views Gura has or the amount of live viewers Pekora. They have that big of reach to people, even better if they could get a meme born from a shill stream.

>> No.5674031

>>5673844
Her karaoke streams would be more scuffed if she streams other stuffs more often.

>> No.5674067

>>5673905
If I recall correctly, as long as there is a holo in the same post, it's OK since I remember a shitty meme comparing Ina and Lulu being a "normal" art students in the past

>> No.5674081

>>5673900
>Pekora is not comparable either with Holos or with streamers in General. She was arguably the biggest beneficiary of the chinks going apeshit with West Taiwan stuff because that's the highlighted incline point she never ever reclined from in this chart.
Umm, No... that just coincided with the PekoMoona Minecraft arc taking off, aka the biggest incline in HoloJP history and even she saw a small dip after the arc/million/coming out concluded.

>> No.5674103

Youtube algorithm favors views right?
So the big view number has more exposure, lead to more subs and sponsorship opportunity

>> No.5674105

>>5673638
Lulu is graduating later next month

>> No.5674117

>>5673313
>>5673506
Kys and go back to your shithole already, holobrony newfag. I hope EN continues to recline so you bandwagoners leave and move on to another fad.

>>5673834
It's ENshitters obsessed with the reddit shark mostly. They're common here because they're like KPOP stans, always talking about their numbers.

>> No.5674129

>>5673900
Ah, that's already a general consensus. She's the top 4 viewed female streamer in the world for a reason.

What piqued my interest, is how games truly affect the viewer count. And that in comparison's to Pekora's picks/shills, against her own regular counts.

>> No.5674154

>>5673900
Hi, sorry for probably imposing this on you but can you check the stream frequency for Aqua in 2019 and compare it with the current Pekora?
In previous numbers thread the benefit of consistency in streaming schedule and timeslot as factors contributing to her numbers came up so I'm kind of curious of it since IIRC Aqua also had similar schedule back in 2019.
Thanks in advance, and I really like your graphs.

>> No.5674164

>>5674117
This is the hololive board, jpsie, crawl back to your squatters den and bury your head into the sand if the sight of progress displeases you

>> No.5674184

>>5673900
I'm just pointing out that she's not exactly going down the drain. Her audience now are more selective of what to watch from her. If it's a karaoke, she will get big numbers. If it's a meme game she will get big numbers. If it's a new AAA game preferably with a horror theme, she will get big numbers. If it's a fairly famous rhythm game, then she's going to get the big numbers. Everyone now knows she's not a good gamer.

>> No.5674188

>>5673885
You're just bitter that Gura has the most vod views too

>> No.5674230

>>5674117
>It's ENshitters obsessed with the reddit shark mostly. They're common here because they're like KPOP stans, always talking about their numbers.

It's nothing unusual. People have work dealing with datasets, and this board probably started that way, nothing but civil discussion. Until as you've suspected, obsessive cunts crashed the party.

>> No.5674231

>>5673948
That's not what I said.

>> No.5674236

>>5674129
Isn't Pekora top 2 now?

>> No.5674262

>>5673885
This claim is so wild, I HAVE to beg you to show me where you got this information from.

>> No.5674271

>>5674081
>Umm, No... that just coincided with the PekoMoona Minecraft arc taking off
Lapiz Lazuri played a significant factor in her incline too, you are correct
Both HoloEN debut and chink shit brought a whole lot of eyes to Holos too, that's undeniable

>> No.5674298

>>5673900
Gura hadn't found her own niche/gimmick yet like pekora. Pekora is able to bring out the funny from any games she plays and she's pretty consistent. Mind you, pekora was a nobody at first, but she grinds those stream hours and took time to learn streaming from other popular streamers.Marine is able to capture an audience from the way she talks to people, friendly and loud. Miko communicates with her fans very closely same way as Pekora with her nousagis. Ame could've gone for the Miko route, but she's too dumb for that. Overall, It felt like Gura isn't getting serious on her job yet. She's being too mindful of her fans and management.

>> No.5674301

>>5673900
This tells you that she still drives in numbers comparative to what she had before. She streamed the best lineup of games >5673479

>> No.5674318

>>5674154
>can you check the stream frequency for Aqua in 2019 and compare it with the current Pekora?
Sadly no, Holostats data with regards to Peak and Avg live viewers start at June 2020.

>> No.5674327

>>5673844
She doesn't need it. She doesn't want the spotlight or the attention or the expectation of a forced image that she has to be the ruler / leader of her company and the industry.

Just leave the shark be or you're gonna trigger a relapse of her imposter syndrome.

>> No.5674337

>>5674117
>I hope EN continues to recline
Check the graph retard, EN has been inclining for a few months now.

>> No.5674339

>>5674236
I don't know man. I've been regularly visiting https://streamhatchet.com/blog/ for their quarterly report and couldn't find one for 2Q.

As for first quarter, Pekora was 3rd: https://insights.streamhatchet.com/q1-2021-live-game-streaming-trends

>> No.5674375

>>5673885
They are a mich better metric of success than fucking superchats which you people bring up all the time. I could go to Roboco's stream and superchat her 3 million dollars making her the most superchatted Holo. Would that change Roboco's status as one of the low end Holos? Nope, not at all.

>> No.5674388

>>5674318
Ah, sorry for requesting it then. Thanks for trying to look it up.

>> No.5674418
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>>5674117
>always talking about their numbers.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
>complaining about numbers in the numbers thread
Please stop embarassing me in front of the cute honorary white Japanese cuties!

>> No.5674421

>>5674318
Can you check the frequency Gura streams before she hit 1M after she passed 1M and after she passed 2M?

>> No.5674439

>>5674298
I think Gura is pretty crippled by nerves most of the time, she's much better in member streams where she feels more secure.

>> No.5674451

>>5674339
I wonder why the other Holos aren't in the top 5 too when they get so many live viewers per day

>> No.5674461
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>>5674388
>Ah, sorry for requesting it then
Are you by any chance Canadian? Stop apologizing!

>> No.5674485

When you are rich as fuck , don't even need to be so popular at all .

>> No.5674504

>>5674375
It depends on how you define success. Lamy per se does not have great live view numbers but she got 2 liquor deals. 1 is a premium sake that she was able to design herself. SC tells you the purchasing power of your audience. She definitely is one of the successful ones. I mean, that's probably why Pekora and Botan keeps getting mobile games instead

>> No.5674515

>>5674388
You can easily check it with vnuma, no avg viewer but the peak viewers are all avaible

>> No.5674541

>>5674375
If you superchat Roboco $3M USD every year,
then yes, she'll top a different metric.

>> No.5674552
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Took a min to find what's good bout niji merch. I don't really understand the appeal of this stuff in JP.

>> No.5674589

>>5673885
Then why do Coco and Noel care so much when their vods get the yellow monetization mark?
I've seen that live streams get way fewer ads than equivalent videos posted directly, but still, 100k+ views per day on vods is nothing to scoff at.

>> No.5674606

>>5674504
>Pekora and Botan keeps getting mobile games instead
Not sure what you mean by this? you know that pekor is part of nissin trio while la lion is redbull ambassador right ? Numbers matter more to sponsor.

>> No.5674633

>>5674451
Pekora is the only outlier here. She streams everyday, but that's nothing compared to actual twitch streamers, some of them stream 5+ hours per day ranging for gaming and doing reaction videos all day.

>> No.5674643

>>5674552
Well they are not aim for male and overseas
If you have interest, go check your sexual orientation

>> No.5674650

>>5674439
Well, this one is undeniable. Even the clip from her pervious members-only Karaoke, that giggle she did while singing Believer, still expressed some nervousness. But this smol of a shark still nailed the song.

And looks like her new subscribers are slowly crippling to archives: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpBJCmYickc

>> No.5674655

>>5674552
Fans will eat anything up.
Things like this are the cheapest things to produce and give back the most profit.

>> No.5674663

>>5674552
Collecting and people (mostly girls) like cute art of their favorite characters

>> No.5674666

>>5674552
They are cheap and practical. Niji targets mainly the normie audience, the ones who don't think dropping 60 bucks for concert merch is a worthwhile use of their money. The stuff like clear file holders and voice packs are like 1000 yen a pop, and it''s easy to justify it as part of your monthly expenses

>> No.5674727

>>5674375
...yes, it would make her the most sc person in the world and bring a lot of attention to her stream from many places, increasing numbers all round.
How do you even think of this kind of an extreme example and not see the extreme impact?

>> No.5674747

>>5674552
It's for normies, normal non-4chan people actually like these kind of stuff

>> No.5674766

>>5671358
>holobrony
why people keep pushing that word so much? I bet you are the same faggots who said sozzle.

>> No.5674776

>>5674327
This is ironic for the fact that she does indeed want to be on the spotlight. She does want to perform in the big stage with her senpais. She wants to sing her own songs. She's just too anxious to do so. She joined Hololive. One of the most popular streaming agencies in JP that was already branding itself as "idol" streamers. If she didn't want any part of the limelight, she would have stayed indie. You are romanticizing everything too much. She joined the agency to improve herself.

>> No.5674783

>>5671287
Is there any correlation between Gura/Ame collabs and Ame's overall channel stats? I remember her doing a lot of collabs with Gura early on, then going a long period without them before finally picking back up on it recently.

>> No.5674796

On a separate note, do you guys ever get an Ad everytime she starts the stream? (not talking about vod)

I've been getting one even from her song premiere lmao

(for those without adblocker)

>> No.5674815
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>>5674421
>Can you check the frequency Gura streams before she hit 1M after she passed 1M and after she passed 2M?
Pic related, her biggest break seems to have been between Nov 30 and Dec 10. She's not my oshi so I wouldn't know it by heart, maybe someone more qualified could shed some light on that.

I can only see numbers, the only Holo I know things by heart is Haachama

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>>5670709
>>5670881
>>5670936
Watame is a late night bloomer in terms of her max live views; every time you make these ranks too early you hurt the poor sheep. You should feel ashamed.

>> No.5674838

>>5674633
Seems like they're a bit lazy then compared to actual streamers

>> No.5674852

>>5674067
>a shitty meme comparing Ina and Lulu being a "normal" art students in the past
Iofi...

>> No.5674860

>>5674796
>everytime she
She who anon?

>> No.5674862

>>5674747
...You know merch collecting is a huge aspect of otaku culture right

>> No.5674877

>>5674666
It's honestly smart of Anycolor to do. They're just doing the traditional "slap your logo on everything" approach that giants like Sanrio and Pokemon doe to make a shit ton of money.
Though supposedly they only made 800k~ in profit according to some anon? I'd like a source on that if possible.

>> No.5674884

>>5674643
Yes they are not aim for you

>> No.5674894

>>5674860
Oh sorry, Gura.

>> No.5674915

>>5674298
Gura couldve did things with musedash.

>> No.5674926

>>5674796
I don't know who you're talkin about but yes, YT has become more aggressive with ads last few months, one of the new things is that once a stream starts ads will be triggered.

>> No.5674939

>>5674776
Yeah she joined to improve herself but not to the point of outshining everyone she looked up too, see how she can't even bring out her numbers without recoiling from that fact that she will most likely be one of the most subbed Vtuber in the world

>> No.5675154

>>5674606
As you may have not noticed, the Nissin and Redbull sponsorships were group sponsorships. You also failed to see that they were mainly targeted for the mainstream audiences. So the target there is not just who has more gachikois but who has more brand reach.

>> No.5675229

>>5670764
Top ten is the only list that matters nigga. Anything outside of the top ten is automatically a failure.

>> No.5675247

>>5674862
Indeed, otaku will buy things that is related to the things they are fan of, but from the pic, those items are targeted to normies

>> No.5675248

>>5674838
I doubt it. Knowing Japanese, they probably have part-time job going on, aside from Holo recordings. We don't know what going on behind the scenes.

As for rl streamers, more than likely their full-time job.

>> No.5675260

>>5674815
Could you do Lamy and Botan? Maybe a divide between Lamy's morning and non-morning streams, if that is possible.

>> No.5675272

>>5674655
>>5674663
>>5674666
I guess those reasons are okay. To me, it felt like it's those common dollar store items like items that are plastered with cartoon shows, Barnie or something like that and puts a stain or diminishes the value of character itself. I guess that's why they aren't able to part from China.

>> No.5675278

>>5674766
He's probably a faggot from the old /vyt/ thread on /jp/ salty that all his knowledge on vtubers popular before 2020 is worth jack shit in the current fanbase.
Speaking of which...

>>5671842
Say, here's a challenge for you, given that you do this kind of thing as your day job, seeing Kizuna Ai's recent push for 3 million before her birthday have been met with fairly dismal results, what were the mistakes she made and what recommendations would you give to her if her agency had consulted you to help improve her growth rate, say, three months ago?

>> No.5675294

>>5674852
I think the pont they are trying to make on that meme is they are both 'eldritch' being

>> No.5675298

>>5674552
Women like those cheap stuffs. Some crazy ones'll buy like 20 badges and keychains with the exact same design.

>> No.5675320

>>5673721
imagine people not wanting to watch her shill a shitty game

>> No.5675322

>>5675248
I remember both Mori and Kiara talking about how there's a lot of background stuff going on that we don't see.

>> No.5675337

>>5674939
Just because she's embarrassed to say her numbers does not mean she doesn't want it. And the way you see it is retarded btw. If she really cared about her Senpais then collaborating with them will be the best way to boost everyone's numbers. But she hasn't because she's still too anxious. You can tell from her collab with Nacho that she still needs work.

>> No.5675363

>>5670709
Korone mogging tastes divine. As a proud numberfag this list makes me ascend to newer heights.

>> No.5675387

>>5674796
Yes, somehow I got an ad for Ai's birthday celebration on my daily 3am YouTube routine

>> No.5675400

>>5675248
RL streamers only stream.
Company vtuber streamers are working on multiple projects at the same time, especially if they’re a mid-high tier talent.
These range from meetings, songs, projects (3D streams, sponsorships), RL events, singing and dance practice etc.

>> No.5675399

>>5675278
Kizuna Ai has been utterly fucked ever since she first got fired.
The news that she bought back the character never went as viral as the firing

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>>5674783
>Is there any correlation between Gura/Ame collabs and Ame's overall channel stats?
I will be able to do that correlation when I move the data from Excel 97 into my real work tools but for now
>you tell me
here is teh Ame vs. Gura live viewers chart, you will have to determine if there is any correlation yourself based on that

>> No.5675447

You guys probably don't know that Hololive also have cheap stuff all over Family Mart. They also have those stuff in Stukumo and Gachapon. They also have sponsorships with Lawson. It's not uncommon. Once you are famous, you will be everywhere.

>> No.5675467

>>5670915
Lulu is a breathing EoP magnet. She's the Happy Meal of Nijisanji, nijifags avoid her because they think they're above her. It's pathetic honestly.

>> No.5675475

>>5675294
Iofi has the same meme anon which makes this just sader.
the Haha she is just a NORMAL arts student thing

>> No.5675477

>>5674838
Actual lazy is some of actual streamers themselves (i.e reaction streamers) except for the ones who are pushing hours of gaming or art content.

>> No.5675483
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>>5675447
>You guys probably don't know that Hololive also have cheap stuff all over Family Mart.
That's recent anon, Holo is ramping up partnership from Capcom debacle to now.

>> No.5675486

>>5675337
Well, true

>> No.5675571

>>5675467
The /jp/ Niji thread disowned her for being a EOP magnet
>>5675483
Hololive has had family mart promos for a year or so, lawson is more uncommon for them. Most of the time it’s with those folder promos or whatever they are.
It’s true though that their sponsorships have started ramping up hard.
If last year was their viewership boom, this year is their sponsorship boom.

>> No.5675588

>>5675483
That is not recent. They have been doing this since the beginning of Jan 2021.

>> No.5675599

>>5674877
Their livers are only popular in JP. They're gonna hit a limit soon in their brand if they keep pumping those stuff. Unlike sanrio and pokemon, people would buy them no matter the time, but who gives a shit about an anime streamer in the long run?

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>>5675571
>Hololive has had family mart promos for a year or so
>>5675588
>That is not recent. They have been doing this since the beginning of Jan 2021.
Capcom was in June 2020 anon, that's already a year ago

>> No.5675709

>>5675599
You probably don't know that these people have been streaming way before Hololive or that there is a whole nip website that has a shit ton of anime streamers? Whether they are streaming IRL or under a guise, streaming games has been lucrative for a long time now.

>> No.5675727

>>5675400
How does Pekora stream everyday then

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[jaws theme intensify]

>> No.5675760

>>5675599
The problem is, what happens when their popular livers retire?
Hololive seems to have found a system with their box pushing strategy borrowed from the idol industry.

>> No.5675776

>>5675709
What is funny is that a lot of anime avatars even get their own shows or have their own tv show even though aren't as big as Hololive.

>> No.5675891

>>5675727
Prime time hours, evening in Japan. I barely remember a day she ever streamed early.

>> No.5675942

>>5675400
I thought the current top female streamer is also a gaming/esports org co-owner. Seems like a busy job to me.

>> No.5675964

>>5674776
Wanting to perform on stage with her senpai is different than the bullshit narrative people have been pushing for weeks that Gura passing Ai in subs means that she's the new queen / ruler of the industry and that she has to take over her responsibilities. Gura doesn't want that kind of spotlight / attention / responsibility, but a certain part of her fan base doesn't care about what she wants.

>> No.5675980

>>5675891
What are you talking about. She streamed Yakuza in the afternoon today.

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>>5675964
>Gura passing Ai in subs means that she's the new queen / ruler of the industry
WELL?!

>> No.5676050

>>5675980
Even wondered what day that is? weekend

>> No.5676071

>>5675980
yeah, cause it's the weekend. Subaru, Noel and a bunch of other holos usually do that too

>> No.5676082

>>5675475
Isn't Iofi's thing is that she's an alien art student not an eldritch one?

>> No.5676111

>>5675399
She never got fired. I swear, the circulation of all the fan rrats is what really fucked Ai up.

>> No.5676146

>>5676071
For Noel... isn't she also active on her rl stream? I haven't checked for months, so cant remember the channel. That could be her 2nd job.

>> No.5676253

>>5675247
Maybe it depends on what you consider normal
I wouldn’t consider buying a piece of paper or a pen with an anime head drawn on it “normie”

>> No.5676259

>>5676111
Which Ai, the original one? If you meant the current Ai, she never got fired.

>> No.5676264

>>5675760
That's the thing. No one would give a shit about a liver after they graduate and most likely their merch is gonna be at the bottom in terms of value. Meanwhile, holoAlt introduces things like possible anime adaptations, manga or games. Things like that would stay in a fan's mind even after they graduate because they all believe their idols are living in one fabricated world.

>> No.5676292

>>5676146
She streams 1-4 times a month on it.
I would guess she has anywhere from 5k to 20k subs judging by her viewership.
Not sure how NND view counter works in members only streams.

>> No.5676295

>>5676111
Pretty much, someone said in the other thread that an EOP anituber covered the news that AI got replaced but didn't report that the original VA of AI has been put back as the VA of AI so most people still thinks that she isn't the original AI

>> No.5676311

>>5675964
That is your problem and all of the chumtards that likes to talk in hyperbolics. Her choosing to play certain games that does not do well in numbers isn't her way to debuff herself. Most of the time the game choices were just recommendation from her own fans like Super Metroid. She played the old DMC because she liked the new one. She played the new one because she wanted to try her new PC. She played Super Mario because she was trying to take it easy. She plays rhythm games because she likes them, and so on and so forth. Her being embarrassed of her achievements is her simply being embarrassed. She's doing her best to make her own mark by making her own music. She wants to interact more with other people but is too retarded to do so. A lot of the cuddling you guys do are just rrats. The only thing she was restricted to do was interact with Coco. She is basically Aqua of EN. Nothing she does has to be the representative of all of Hololive. No actual person with sense will assume that. Only chumtards do. She is just socially inept to make a move but is trying her best to improve.

>> No.5676334

>>5676292
By subs I mean paying members.

>> No.5676358

>>5676253
well that is what students normally buys, those normal things they can use for their everyday life, and if an Otaku buys those merch, they will most likely to preserve them and never use them for anything, like figurines

>> No.5676403

>>5675467
In a good alternative timeline Nijisanji would have also had their own western audience breakthrough. HoloNiji would have been synonymous. And Coco Meme reviews would have featured niji livers such as Mito or Ruru.

But as a numberfag it's in my nature to reject that worldline. Competition needs to exist for this medium to flourish. Hololive is currently the market leader. I hope niji do their best to keep up.

>> No.5676433

>>5676259
The current Ai IS the original Ai. Do you reps.

>> No.5676538

>>5676403
I wouldn't be surprised if Kson starts her own show and features the roommates of the livers.

>> No.5676557
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It seems my prediction that Gura’s latest stream would not get a lot of VOD views was accurate.

>> No.5676637

>>5672128
>>Even then it's only Pekora who can beat him on a regular basis.
No. If we are going off the past month Marine, Miko, Pekora, Coco, and Gura have all averaged higher numbers than him.

>> No.5676688

>>5671167
They got sick of being in Manjisanji, being outdone by m*les all the time.

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>>5676557
>would not get a lot of VOD views
>200k

>> No.5677045

>>5676557
the view got doubled from it's initial views in less that 24hrs, anon..

>> No.5677066

>>5674796
By anyone that starts a stream. They subverted the current mobile ad blockers from what I've known.

>> No.5677118

>>5670764
>Top 25
How new.

>> No.5677168

>>5676557
Your pic contradicts your statement. For comparison, Mori only had 86k >>5672897

>> No.5677172

>>5672570
Everyone knows cumsharts only watch Gura. Fucking 5-man holomyth collabs get less viewers than her solo streams.

>> No.5677205

>>5677118
Well, previews number threads features top 25, anon

>> No.5677234

>>5677172
Only because she's the best of holoEN

>> No.5677242

>>5673108
Depends on the type of channel and it's content. It's usually around $1 to $5-6 on average per thousand views. A gaming channel might have a different CPM compared to a real estate channel, and one country's CPM will be different than the other.

>> No.5677397

>>5670949
Only? Other Holos would be envious to get 9k with a shill stream

>> No.5677595

>>5670709
can chuubas eventually beat kpop in terms of viewers?

>> No.5677600

>>5670949
Her fans are from different timezones unlike HoloJPs which have most of their viewers from one timezone.
Obviously a lot of them would watch the vod instead.

>> No.5677682

>>5672607
The peak was something 10100 viewers
at least she's kept her record of no stream under 10k live viewers

>> No.5677748

>>5677595
Aren't male kpop bands the biggest in the world? BTS gets millions of views everytime they release a song. Vtubers still have a long way to go compared to that.

>> No.5677782

>>5677595
Modern kpop is a 25 year old industry while vtubers are only in its 5th year. Maybe in a decade if it becomes more mainstream than it is now.

>> No.5677821

>>5675467
Ruru sounds like a capable person that could draw in Eop. Does her past of being a former idol play a part to her appeal?

>> No.5677964
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In the wake of his newest single Kenshi Yonezu took the first three spots on Oricon Digital Singles chart to no one's surprise, but Kiseki Knot by Hololive Fourth Generation was fourth.

>> No.5677965

>>5677821
There is literally no requirement for popular streamer to be capable to draw eops. All they need is to throw them bones regularly and not just once and call it a day.

>> No.5678029

>>5677595
I hope that never happens. Kpop is living cancer. And while I consider vtubers to be cancer lite. I despise the idea of them reaching kpop levels of popularity.

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>>5672986
>>5673081
Ichimis are just differently motivated, they don't watch it for the amazing gameplay but for the commentary. That's why it's somewhat rare to see her dip below 15k
(unless it's superchat reading)

>> No.5678132

BTS had 3.9M live viewer in Butter MV premiere
only NASA beat it?

>> No.5678161

>>5678042
Just as a counterpoint: I am an ichimi, and I didn't watch it because I don't like the DLC - I'm too squeamish for it.

>> No.5678327

>>5677682
Anon... Her Jaws watchalong is under 10k.

>> No.5678369

>>5670799
Aqua bros not like this...

>> No.5678570

>>5677965
Is having an appealing personality not a requirement. Is being entertaining also not a requirement. No matter how big a bone you throw at them, Eop will not stick around if you lack these.
I want to know anonchama. Please make me andastan.

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>>5678132
Who cares?

>> No.5678663

>>5672947
How relevant is 150k views/plays per day on Spotify? I'm not being knowledgeable in that platform.

>> No.5678923

>>5676968
>200k is a lot of VOD views for Gura
No, it’s not. I predicted she wouldn’t do as well, and she didn’t. That is all.
>>5677045
It was a prediction of lower VOD views for Gura, which is correct. It wasn’t comparing Gura to Anya or whoever. It was comparing Gura to Gura.
>>5677168
Obviously, all of Holo EN is in decline.

>> No.5679048

>>5678923
And that prediction happens to be on a shill stream?

>> No.5679319

>>5679048
>And that prediction happens to be on a shill stream?
People were predicting Gura would still get high VOD views, despite the low live views. My argument was that there just isn’t enough interest in that particular stream, and predicted it would do poorly (for Gura) in VOD views. That’s it. Not sure why people were defending that stream to begin with.

>> No.5679565

>>5679319
If you're saying she wouldn't get high vod views compared to other videos of her, yes, of course it doesn't.
But she still kept getting a lot of vod views after the live stream. Just compare it for example with Ibrahim, right below her on the chart: duration 1:21, 9.3k live, 72k views.
Meanwhile, Gura has 1:44, 9.8k live, 205k views.

>> No.5680018

>>5679565
>If you're saying she wouldn't get high vod views compared to other videos of her, yes, of course it doesn't
That was the point.
>Just compare it for example with Ibrahim…
Only if you think the person is at Gura’s level, can it become a proper comparison.

>> No.5680202

>>5680018
I think the other anons were arguing that she's still getting a lot of late vod views, despite the game being worse, and that comparison shows it.

>> No.5680287

>>5675964
>Gura doesn't want that kind of spotlight / attention / responsibility
I'll slide into this conversation by saying that it doesn't matter what she wants, it matters where she is and right now and, like it or not, she is in the spotlight of the western vtuber industry

>> No.5680498

>>5680202
>she's still getting a lot
The VOD views are low for Gura, because there is less interest in that stream. Having it seemingly appear as a lot, only when compared to someone not at her level, becomes a meaningless comparison.

>> No.5682100
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>>5678923
>all of Holo EN is in decline.
How can you say that when there is a chart in this very thread >>5672570 showing all of EN is in an incline since at very least may.
This is the numbers thread, back your statements with numbers or GTFO

>> No.5682244

>>5680287
What she wants matters insofar as she's just gonna continue doing what she's doing and everyone who wants her to take on the role that Ai has can continue seething.

>> No.5682287

so is this thread just all chumbuds?

>> No.5683037

>>5674877
https://p2y.jp/nijisanji-ichikara-inc-financial-results-for-the-fiscal-year-ending-april-2020-final-profits-of-over-30-million-yen/

>> No.5683371

>>5682100
You arent even watching them, are you...?

>> No.5683847
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Moona having 30k more views compared to miko in minecraft relay is the reason why i dont rely on vod

>> No.5684985

>>5682100
The average live viewers for Holo EN has declined over time.

>> No.5686345

>>5683037
$293k profit at the end of the fiscal year 2020.
An article from September 2020 says they have 23.8m in capital.
They raised 17.1m in investments from Sony music, Itochu, Legend Capital one other according to Ichikara in 2020
According to one of the articles, Ichikara has 6 times the capitol of Cover as of September 2020, right before Cover blew up (again) in the west and before they started getting sponsorships left and right.

>> No.5686595

>>5672570
Any reason why you set 130000 as the highest value when there is no one there who is even near that?

>> No.5687223

>>5684985
More like
>The average live viewers for YouTube live streamers has declined over time
Specifically after December and even more so in February, when in turn Twitch grew by 12%. En stream viewers are just moving to twitch more.

>> No.5687304

>>5687223
>people start learning that hot tub meta is a thing that exists
>twitch suddenly sees significant growth over youtube

makes you think

>> No.5687312

>>5686595
It's auto set, check May 7th.

>> No.5688250

>>5686345
Okay those turns of events for cover is funny. For as much bad luck they receive, they'll be returned 2x good luck. Also, 300k in 2020 for 17M investment? How are they able to cope if they aren't able to return those investments in coming years now that their competitor is able to compete with them? They must've thought cover's EN branch wouldn't blew up as fast as it did and now everything's blowing up in proportions lmao.

>> No.5689112

>>5687312
Oh okay, I somehow forgot May 7th was Gura's costume reveal. That probably screwed over the whole graph

It's just having that high a maximum value makes it seem like all of HoloEN are doing worse than the average because non of them are close to the center. Maybe you could make one without the peak viewers?

>> No.5690513

>>5687304
IDK why Amourath still exists on that platform

>> No.5690575
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>>5688250
No clue, one of the articles implied they're using their capital to invest to fully focus on Nijisanji.
I'm not sure if someone has made a viewership graph of Nijisanji for 2020. Just general search term trends on google trends show they didn't really get as much of a buff from the covid era compared to Hololive.

>> No.5691474

when does the supacha lists get released?

>> No.5692223

>>5690575
Think you need to put the names in Japanese if you are going to compare them in Japan

>> No.5694353

>>5687223
Holo JP seems to be doing fine

>> No.5694689

I was wondering if Gura was going to be on Meme Review for some interesting numbers. I guess not. Cover probably doesn’t want Gura to swear, so management didn't let Gura on Reddit Shitpost.

>> No.5694773
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>>5694353
No, that anon is right

>> No.5695134

>>5694773
Dec-Jan was the time when YT was cracking on live viewers. Everyone was affected.

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>>5690575
anon, the proper way for comparison is using the same single keyword and not suddenly increase the difficulty by adding another word.

>> No.5695499

>>5694773
Have to wait on Q2 information to get a better picture because of what >>5695134 said.
>>5695195
Why would you look at a single keyword instead of a topic when trying to look at the health of an entire company.
You know what the difference between a search term and a topic and what it means on google trends right?

>> No.5696135

Last meme review ended in 64K

>> No.5696526

>>5695499
Sure thing, why compare a "topic" against "company" trends? common sense to compare from the same category

Nijisanji is the floor. Hololive is the ceiling.

>> No.5696769

>Pomu at 5k viewers
I hope this starts her incline

>> No.5697155

>>5696769
8 hours singing the same song is impressive no matter how retarded an idea it is. Good for her! I'm not sure if it affects her normal stream numbers tho since this is a special event.

>> No.5697157

>>5696526
Are you retarded or just trolling?
They’re both topics. Google likes to label certain topics. Look up any notable person or company and you will see they pop up with a label other than “Topic”.
The topic Nijisanji includes にじさんじ, Nijisanji etc
The search term Nijisanji only includes “Nijisanji” and not にじさんじ

>> No.5697275

>>5696769
>5k viewers
>12k Likes
How

>> No.5697355

>>5697275
8 hour stream so far, so lots of different people dropped in and gave a like and left after hearing her sing the same song 3 times.

>> No.5697634
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Both anons are retarded.
>>5697157 is correct
Nijisanji topic seems to be only popular in japan as evident in this graph. Too lazy to stitch another graph comparing Nijisanji topic worldwide and Hololive Production worldwide.

>> No.5697700
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discuss

>> No.5697731
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>>5697634
So the graphs don't lie. nijisanji is popular in japan and hololive overseas.

>> No.5697741

>>5690513
because some of her biggest simps are members of twitch staff

>> No.5697761

Can someone post the sc’s for today. Tyty

>> No.5697798

>>5697700
Minus company and YT cuts, leftovers are for her cancer surgery

>> No.5697820

>>5697700
I hope this will fuel her to incline. Pomudachis let’s gooooo

>> No.5697984

>>5697731
Yes, but Nijisanji has been losing their lead on Hololive even in Japan as evident by this >>5690575
>>5697634
Here's the overseas graph.

>> No.5698029
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5698029

>>5697984
Forgot to attach the graph.

>> No.5698079
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5698079

>>5698029
KEK all me btw. no need to educate me bro.

>>5697700
NO U. I ain't your bitch.
Analysis is always grounded on past data.
This might be a one time thing or a start of her incline. We can only know how well this actually is after 3-4 months.
What you should be posting is her improvement in subs and engagement after this stream.

>> No.5698710

today will be a glorious battle

>> No.5698726

>>5697700
she is destinied to fall off with her surgery
none of current nijien will ever be consistent top25, in fact they will inevitably get overshadowed by future waves and lose a lot of viewers

>> No.5698854

>>5698710
It will cement who has the most concurrent viewers and thus the best, some chubas are getting into this with buffs, others like EN will have their non standard time debuff.

>> No.5699051

>>5698726
Nijisanji is hell bent on flooding the EN market and Hololive is debuting their own batch of vtubers as well. That's not to mention the constant new groups and their own waves of vtubers popping up.
Kinda feel bad for them.

>> No.5699334

>>5698710
I've said it in the other thread but I'm pretty worried about their Minecraft server imploding since too many people logging in and too many chunks and entities to load.
Hope everything goes right. Will be a shame if after that much preparation everything just lags to hell.

>> No.5699354

>>5699334
They did fine the last time with almost 40 people on the server at the same time, it should be fine today.

>> No.5699368

>>5699051
well only other choice is to just retire and go back to complete irrelevancy
nijien is still the second best option for auditions
hololive debutes just 5 girls a year and well theres obviously way more EN talent than just that.
i believe nijiEN might get a consistent top25 chuuba by recruiting some high quality hololive rejects with their wave 3
if they dont breakthrough with wave 3 or wave 4 (males) then its probably over for their numberfag ambitions

>> No.5699391

Alright, what's going to be the next header for the numbers thread?

>> No.5699606

>>5699391
Hmm amount of supachas? Don't think anyone posted it yet for yesterday streams.

>> No.5700345

>>5698710
People gotta get up at 4:30-5am to watch the EN girls...

>> No.5701198

>>5699391
We should use the pekora numbers image.

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