/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56958698
>Had a brand new joint discord to communicate before debut, pushed for shortening their debut, and big collabs
>We know absolutely nothing
That’s what is called a lie

Finally, someone acknowledged them. I was beginning to think that they were a hallucination.

>>56958698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U96DXWui66Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA6VnYR_uWM

>noooo my boycockssssss
whore

I niggas are desperate to squeeze drama out of a stone.

>>56958698
She's got that a bit sad and disappointed but trying to be happy for them tone.
They really just up and fucking abandoned ship of their own volition.
What a waste of fucking time they were.

>"Especially those that have never interacted with them. Don't ask them about it."
Despite what you guys may think of Mori (as if you ever cared that she collabed with males), I respect her for saying this.

>>56959363
>holy shit guys she said you shouldn't murder old ladies on the street that's so hecking BASED, respect!
No anon, that's the bare minimum, it shouldn't need to be said and saying it is not impressive.

>>56959363
As much as Kronies want to say Mori somehow mind controlled Kronii, Mori has never forced male collabs on anyone.

why am I supposed to be angry about this again

>>56959635
Pink woman bad

>>56959635
pink woman bad

>>56959635
are you referring to op? why do you think you're supposed to be angry?

>>56959635
#FFC0CB woman bad

>>56958698
>>56958917
Sorry antifags, Mori is no longer the most hated vtuber on this board. Now that she has stood up for the dogs, she has gone from C tier to A tier. Your deflection threads have minimal effectiveness; pink woman is now based.

>>56959754
her hair colour is actually #DEADBE

>>56959363
She literally said around their debut that she would say fuck it and collab with them because she's "already tainted" (word for word), and to not fucking pester the rest of the girls. Right from the start she's been the exact OPPOSITE of what smegma-encrusted catalog trash have been crying over for over a year.

>>56959635
pink woman good fr this time

>>56959528
Not a single SC that was sent last night to Kronii last mentioned them in any capacity.

No one gives a shit anymore.

>>56958698
Vesper ghosted everybody huh

>>56959860
Lately I've been trying to tell this board that but every time I make a thread the first 5 posts are either ESL or retards that don't even know what the op post is even saying. "Pink woman bad". It's hopeless.

>>56959912
Sorry I should of said the "kronies" /here/.

>>56959831
BRAVO, YAGOO!

>>56959860
Yes she did, what she also did was convince the girls to collab with them, basically doing the opposite of what she told others to do.

>>56958820
>I know nothing about it
vs
>I'm not at liberty to speak about it
Which one settles the audience down, and which one leads to them pressing for more info?

>>56959363
She also said this about collab-begging way back when Tempus first appeared. Mori's always had a good head on her shoulders, but this board is populated by zoomers who can't remember things from more than 4 days ago and obsessed schizos with an axe to grind over shit she did 2-3 years ago

>>56960155
t. Kronie who thinks Mori has some sort of mind control powers

>>56959860
It's almost as if, and it might sound crazy, /vt/ is filled with people with malicious intents who don't watch streams and just come here to be toxic to others. It's almost as if most "normal" anons don't care about any of this drama. It's almost as if people biting bait is just fueling the absolute shitstain of a state this board is in.

>>56959831
Mind blown right now

>>56960208
Mind control? No, it's called talking with your friends you idiot.

>>56960155
You need to take your meds.

>>56959806
>Stood up for the dogs
I missed whenever this happened but this makes pink woman good just ignore that it's a white woman grooming a dog

>>56960208
>>56960030
>>56959528
>le kronies
rent free, now go buy more Blurays, your oshi needs some cash

>>56960247
And your friends(if you have any) just accept anything you tell them to when they don't want to do something?

>>56960185
>Mori's always had a good head on her shoulders
ror
rmao

>>56960273
Hot
Also it's 2 dogs

>>56959363
Mori's heart is usually in the right place she just tends to be a total but monkey about shit

>>56960333
They don't, which is why she would pester them or try to convince them that it would be fine nothing bad will happen and anyone who complains is an anti.

>>56960390
I think you’re just making shit up to get mad about son.

>>56960299
Go keep thinking your oshi is a child that has no sense of agency

>>56960349
Yes.

>>56960273
qrd is dogs held a contest to make a jingle for the morning show, some fag on twitter got mad at them made posts about how big corpos are leeching small artists. Mori commisioned that same guy to make the music for her anime girl OP for her streams, She unfollowed him and replaced the music in her last stream

>>56960213
shut the fuck up sanallite

>>56960390
And you have proof of this?

>>56960426
So you're saying that she doesn't talk to any of the girls or try to convince them to join collabs with holostars?

>>56960390
Anon, just admit your oshi is a whore and move on.

>>56960390
I am sure you have proof of this pestering and it's not simply your schizo theory.

>>56960390
If Mori would actually be able to convince anyone it'd be IRyS.
Kronii collabed with the stars because she wanted more friends. She said as much before any sort of drama even happened

>>56960490
Yes. I'm IRyS.

>>56960534
Yes

>>56958698
Im still amazed by the fact that two men out menhera'd all the girls except the green one

>>56960273
It was great. Not only did she unfollow the faggot that shit talked the dogs but she also removed his music in her intro.

>>56960483
I am not offended by being called the objectively best fanbase but I am, in fact, not stale american bread

>>56960596
I'm sorry I just don't believe that

>>56960534
Yes that's exactly it

>>56960684
Why not?

>>56960534
That's right.

>>56960028
>>56960213
Convincing those people is hopeless, yes, but that doesn't mean their slander doesn't deserve to be stamped out with the truth. If not them, then some lurking out-of-the-loop anon with a redeemable brain can hopefully still appreciate some nuance and pick his side accordingly.

>>56960735
Schizophrenia

>>56958698
based but I still won't watch her

>>56960457
Wait I did see that, yeah fuck that asshole. Holobass all over again. Didn't know she got rid of his music though. The silent takedowns are the best ones, not even calling out his shit just letting the action speak for itself.

>>56960735
Because that's not the kind of person she is, she wants everyone to be happy and friends with each other. She's not doing it to be malicious.

>>56958698
Why can't all the homo collabers be like Mori and why can't homobeggars listen?

>>56959912
She literally word filtered it you dumbass
You can't send any chat or super chat message saying anything about it

>>56960684
Reminder that before any Kronii collab with the homos ever happened, she
>followed the homos on Twitter
>acknowledged the homos
>replied to the homos on Twitter
>talked about the homos on stream
>appeared in the homos' chat

>>56960273
Happened earlier today. You know that faggot on twitter who was shitting on their ten second jingle contest and dragged mori into it to shit on the doggos?
Mori responded by summarily dumping the intro she'd commissioned from them. Pink woman is consistent: shit on her colleagues and you are dead to her.

>>56961017
She also said Vesper sounded interesting before it too.

>>56961017
she also pretended to care and understand the people who don't want male collabs and promised her fans the homos would never be on her channel, before completely going back on all that the next day and telling the fans she pretended to care about to fuck off

>>56961111
Which was the right choice

ITT: unicorn trannies having a meltie

>>56959860
>already tainted
What she said during the lyric dive stream the other day combined with this makes me feel bad in a way.

>>56960605
Is it that weird? Males are more rebellious, while females are obedient. It's why they do worse in school.

>>56961198
based homo beggar not even going to bother with thread reading huh?

>>56961216
what the fuck does that have to do with anything

Entirely unrelated but what I find funny about Mori is that the fatter she gets the thinner her model gets

>>56961178
>telling the people who actually give you money to fuck off is the right choice

>>56960903
>she wants everyone to be happy and friends with each other
Correct, but she's mature enough to understand the world doesn't work like that. It's why she says stuff like not bothering the other girls in spite of it, because she knows not everyone shares her philosophy.

>>56961293
As I was saying

>>56961402
>she's mature enough
nta but
LOL
LMAO even

I think we all agree Mori is the heavyweight of HoloEN. Nobody can match her pound for pound. The footprint she has on the EN vtubing scene is huge and many indies have fallen into her orbit. The size of her contribution to HoloEN cannot be overstated, she's a giant of the industry with a girthy list of achievements, truly the next gen will have a heavy weight to lift to match her.

>>56961402
Yes, but what I'm saying is that she is the one doing that directly to the other girls, because she sees no difference between being in hololive or holostars and sees them as part of the group that she wants everyone to be friends with.

>>56961489
at least watch the clip beggar
it's the opposite of what you're saying
Mori is protecting the unicorns

>>56961325
Are you fucking kidding me? That males would struggle more under the corpo vtubing leash maybe???

>>56961402
>she’s mature enough to understand the world doesn’t work like that
She still has some naive thoughts about the way the world works. For example the other day she talked about how she’s accepted her role as the “Hate sink” of EN, and thinking that Schizos going after her means they don’t go after the other girls even though that’s clearly not how schizos work.

>>56961360
>fatter
She is actually way thinner than her 2022 self and even mentioned on stream that she is dieting. Her RM instagram shots from 2019 are really good.

>>56958917
She was just so happy to have some more english speaking friends to talk to since she is all alone in japan.

>>56960457
reading the quote tweets of that jingle tweet really showed me some of the most retarded low IQ virtue signaling ever. People crying about "paying artists" and "unpaid labor" over a little fun fucking fan engagement contest. Actually made me feel smarter knowing people like this even exist.

>>56961645
You literally listed a female that struggled under corpo vtuber retard.

>>56961822
I could easily correct you with just a few links of recent stuff but I'm not getting banned for it.

>>56961571
ESL-chama

haven't seen clips of holos in a while BUT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT RIGGING, I'D CHOOSE NIJIS PNGTUBER ASS RIGGING, HOW DO YOU GUYS WATCH THIS

>>56959860
>calls herself tainted
>anon is trash if he calls her that
I don't understand Deadbeats, maybe that's why they don't have brains behind such thick skull...

>>56960185
If she knew it would be bad she wouldn't do it, anything other than that is cope

>>56961669
>For example the other day she talked about how she’s accepted her role as the “Hate sink” of EN
She really doesn't understand why she's hated, does she? It's specifically because of stupid shit she's said and done. But if she works on it, and stops doing and saying stupid shit, then eventually she'll stop being hated. She can control it. It's not like hate is being channeled to her for no reason.

>>56961669
True.

>>56961909
Bitch, I don't care. A not so shocking explanation for your original post is obvious from the fact I brought up.

I'll just wait for a collab between Mori, Magni, Vesper, and Kronii's roommates to say that we have full closure.

>>56961111
They ignore that part because it shows she's a indecisive retarded who goes back in her words, and they try to find a way to make people that go back in their word look like good people somehow

>>56962218
holy meds

>>56959487
Around here, asking for (You) to not act like a punk bitch is an act of radical contrarianism.

>>56961026
>Pink woman is consistent: shit on her colleagues and you are dead to her.
Unless you know, you're from Trash Taste.

Mori has always been (and I believe always will be) a live and let live kind of person. You like her content and ideas? Cool. You don't? Also cool, just don't be a douche.
She made clear from the start she was going to do things her own way and didn't want anyone else pestered to go along with it. She wasn't trying to force others to do anything. It's not a reflection of her that some on this board make up things she said or use her as a boogeyman for everything they don't like. Listen to her speak and she's usually rational.

>>56961178
That unarchived membership stream was made after management told her not to, and she should have listened to wrangler. It was undeniably a terrible choice to do it and she lost a lot of fans that weren't even unicorns because of that stunt. You don't give people hope that you are going to be understanding and then dash it like that. It made her look malicious, even if that wasn't her intention. She should have just ignored the unicorns until they fucked off instead of addressing them if she was going to act like that. Full context >>41710038

>>56962533
She said she was going to break the Hololive bubble and get the Myth girls to help her

>>56962533
All of this is correct but the
>She wasn't trying to force others to do anything.
part I don't believe.

>>56958698
I get the impression the guys did something that really pissed off the girls offscreen since no one cares about them.

>>56962284
It would be fun, I could be a anti with peace of mind, I don't like Mori and Kronii but I don't completely shit on them because while they're retarded they seems like good girls

>>56962693
Flaming hot rrat, they tried to get others to leave too to try and create a rival company.

>>56962190
No, she completely understands why she is so hated. She has talked multiple times about how she’s fucked up, and understands why people would leave, and that all she can really do is learn from her mistakes and struggle onward to be better.

>>56961940
She is noticeably thinner and no, wide angle laptop camera close up face shots aren't "proof" of being fatter.

>>56958698
This and her comment when the boys debuted makes me doubt she ever "forced" other girls to play with them. Ever since her sister threw that party she's been making efforts to be more considerate of the girls and their boundaries.

>>56958698
no more cock for you miss

Images?

>>56962533
You like her content and ideas? Cool. You don't? Also cool, just wait for her to make her 10th anti song

>>56962190
Well I doubt her twitter antis would stop.

>>56962867
That's the one thing I will never forgive her for.

>>56961198
You lost get over it.

>>56962946
Don’t understand why there isn’t more hate towards her sister who clearly took advantage of her family member.

>>56963057
Or you know they guys who actually posted the address?

>>56963040
I don't like holostars and I think the unicorns (like babski) are forcing the talents to act in cringe ways.
Sounds like two wins for me.

Mad??

>>56958820
>That’s what is called a lie
Hololive members can't break NDA so fans asking them for more information will only stress them out. They know what really happened but unless they want another termination they have to act like 6 weeks of radio silence followed by a double graduation is a normal event.

>>56962901
>you just reminded me that my oshi graduated
thanks dickhead

>>56963057
She shouldn't have allowed the situation to even be a possibility. She needs to separate work and personal. Sadly, everyone she thinks is a friend she also works with.

>>56963126
No I find it more annoying that her sister decided to throw a party without saying a thing knowing that her sis is a wimp push over that can’t say no to her.

>>56963209
>She shouldn't have allowed the situation to even be a possibility
The sad truth about Mori is that she’s a loser pushover. It explains why she was so heavily bullied in school, and why so many of “friends” never stuck around after she finished making a song with them.

>>56963167
>no I dont care I swear!!!!
Altare is next, lil bro.

>>56963358
Yeah, but her sister only showed up 2 times if I'm not wrong, at least Mori is changing for the better due to all the beatings all those years, hating on her sister won't do anything

>>56958698
I've tried to hate Mori. I shit on most of her music - and she's had very questionable decisions.
But I just can't, and now that she's stood up for the dogs, she's officially out of my shit list.

>>56963204
My bad bro I'm just fucking around on here

>>56963583
She could have literally just not told her sister where the place was

>>56962796
You skellies always fall for this narcissist's crocodile tears.

>>56958820
Nigger how does any of that make you conclude that Cover managers randomly messages Mori with "BTW THE GUYS ARE GRADUATING, DON'T TELL ANYONE"

We've known since forever that management doesn't just randomly hand out internal info like it's candy. If it doesn't concern the talent they won't know shit.

>>56962901
Lulu...

>>56963709
But it was her birthday. Gura getting raped is a small price to pay for Carly's happiness.

>>56963201
can they not say they can't or don't want to talk about it? I'm inclined to believe they really don't know.

>>56963785
>Mori
>Narcissist

For as many people want to say she writes every song about haters, the entire last EP was pointing blame at herself. She spoke at length about points where she messed up and how not everything lost is recoverable. She knows some people will always hater her. She also knows some supported her even when she was in the wrong. What's important is that she's matured enough to realize where she went wrong but also stop blaming herself for things out of her control.

>>56964020
Anon, this board doesn't even watch streams, or clips. The extent of their interaction with vtubing is glancing at screenshots of thumbnails in the catalog. You expect them to actually know about the lyrics of songs?

>>56964020
The ones who hate her won't even listen to her song, that's the whole point of hating someone, I don't like her very much and I only listened to six feet under, knowing you did wrong doesn't make your mistakes disappear, if the world was simple like that 90% of all conflicts would solve itself in a short time

>>56965329
You're right that it doesn't change past mistakes, it's all about learning from them. And Mori has been doing pretty well for like the past year. If she wasn't, then people wouldn't need to pretend stuff from that long ago happened yesterday.

>>56962493
Speaking the truth and then getting taken out of context and misinterpreted by dramafags isn't the same as shitting on someone

>>56963204
But you still watch her, right...?

>>56965517
She's way better now, but people lose trust when they feel betrayed once, so the chances of a old deadbeat that dropped her coming back is pretty low, she has to maintain her audience and reach to a new public, maybe that's one of the reasons she does quite a bit of jap only streams, japs would only know her best version without knowing the fuck ups

>>56964020
thanks for the explanation deadbeat, I did wonder how she became more calmer and cuter lately. Maybe she has learned to destress more. Good on her. Glad she's mature and glad this deadbeat is here to explain shit unlike so many shitposters.

>>56966906
She's calmer because she thinks she beat the haters. She gloats about it on her other twitter account. She hasn't changed at all.

>>56967071
Damn, that's crazy, source?

>>56967163
I made it up

>>56967071
how can she beat the haters when the biggest sources of owing them got fired and Kronii doesn't even acknowledge their existence?

>>56958698
based

>>56967071
>>56967341
I enjoy how this schizophrenic cult of monkeys cope with their schizophrenia by projecting the idea they live on her mind as much she does theirs, and attempt to contextualize all of her actions through that lens, it's really funny stuff

>>56958698
Even Mori "owning the haters" Calliope gave in to unicorns, I KNEEL

>>56967759
>live on her mind
SEAbeat... you just refuse to learn proper prepositions...

>>56967899
>SEAbeat
Ironic, there's nothing wrong with that phrase ESLchama

>>56967759
Anon, she literally made lots of music fighting against her haters, and music isn't a easy thing to do, principally when you write it too, while her haters only shit on her when they see a thread about her
If we're talking about efforts, she spent way more than her haters, of course she earns money from it while the haters just seeth at nothing, but I would say it's equivalent how much they think of each other

>>56968072
>Anon, she literally made lots of music fighting against her haters
As >>56964349 said, this is just a meme that retards with self-inflated egos made up cause a line from one of her songs probably struck a nerve or something
Out of a discography of about roughly 90~ songs only about 4? maybe 5 of them are about her "haters", and the haters in those context are almost always a different group of people. And only 1 of those 5 songs are deliberately her shitting on them in a attempt to "own" them, while the rest are usually calls to action for them do something better with their time
The way dumbasses on this board talk about her music you'd think 1 in 5 of her songs were about her haters when in reality they're talking about 4.5% of her total catalog

>>56960185
I'm definitely the latter. Sorry deadbeats.
But I haven't talked shit about her for like 1 year now so its fine. It was mostly her antics which broke the magic pink spell for me so I hope you undastand.

>>56961849
>she is all alone in japan.
How about you move back home to US like you wanted before? oh wait no one wants back to that shithole lmao

>>56959363
Despite how /vt/ acts like Mori is constantly trying to tear the company down, she is actually one of the most professional ones in moments like this and will tow the company line. Didn't even address either of them by name.

Kiara is the EN they can trust to deliver good news like songs and merch announcements. Calli is the one they can trust to deliver bad news.

>>56969720
Mori is simply a bootlicker that bends wherever the wind takes her anon. She has no principles to speak of. The fact you people find this to be an admirable trait in anyone is quite telling really.
Kiara nervously laughing and saying she doesn't want to get involved in the homo business but she wishes them well is far more honest, far more real, and far more admirable. Who is the truth to power rapper again?

>>56967826
I'm sure that soijack forum will come back one day bro. Just never give up hope.
All of hololive is coal amirite?

Now graduate the other 6

>>56970154
>Mori is simultaneously a renegade out to destroy the company BUT ALSO a bootlicker that bends wherever the wind takes her for.....holding a stance she's always had
>Kiara is speaking truth to power by....hiding her real opinions behind membership and ultimately kowtowing the line schizos want Holos to follow
???

>>56958820
oh?

>>56959831
HOLY FUCK

>>56959487
>it shouldn't need to be said

You underestimate how retarded most EN fans are

>>56958698
we're not stupid, mori. we know it was the mario party

>>56960457
israel dang, shes aight now

>>56959363
Cuckbeats so used to being whipped that her saying something that literally anyone would say is enough to earn respect.

>>56976959
good thing everyone else said the same thing then (they didn't)

sincerely just kys, you've been seething for years

>>56958698
Mori, I know you're /here/, you know what's good and what's bad for your career, just choose the good that you won't need to be muh hate magnet, stop feigning being a retarded, you know full well why are you hated

>>56977191
They didn't because they don't care about the homos, but it's obvious fags shouldn't bring that up, even with Rushia they aren't that comfortable when people brought it up, imagine with the homos

>>56959487
Anon, the issue is that tempiss fan, especially fagni and vespiss are absolutly unable to fit the bare minimum of standar as a human being, like their fagshi.

>>56977481
NTA but
>"She said something that everyone would say so it doesn't deserves respect!!!"
>Then why has no one else said it?
>"B-be-because uhhh.... because ummmm.... they just don't okl!?"
The way you fags talk in circles in quite pathetic desu

I can't believe there are still tards on /vt/ that still has debut Mori living rent free in their empty heads.

>>56979240
You will never live it down wigger. Your only hope of salvation is through graduation

>>56979240
Go suck a horse cock or something, Mori

>>56982583
>>56983491

>>56982583
And that will not happen any time soon.

>>56958698

>>56958698
>"Especially those that have never interacted with them. Don't ask them about it."
But according to reddit, twitter and various /vt/ users, everyone is in the same discord and have interacted together even before the offical debut, so ergo it means its fine to ask everyone their thoughts.

>>56963787
save it. youre talking to catalogfaggots here. dont expect anything from them

>>56988635
RAPE
>>56987467
you too, also RAPE