/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>56958320
/vt/ incels were jealous he got personal access to the female holos

Can anyone fetch the greentext on all his crimes please?

>>56958429
Is that it? Well that doesn't surprise me honestly

>>56958320
He's over 35 and not married. You have to have some kind of mental illness to achieve this.

>>56958320
Dude hated his vesties and constantly caused problems for his bros, the rest of the guild. I dunno how anyone could call him a brotuber. If anything Axel was the only brotuber.

/vt/ never watched his streams so they are just seething and venting of him being kinda relatable and collabing with their oshis, he is unhinged and has edgy humor but tries to conceal it, emphasis on "Tries" which adds extra humor, those who seen his stuff knows he can get menhera and step out of line and then feels bad for doing it

>>56958529
Koyori...
Korone..
Mio...

>>56958320
According to his own words, he apparently has some anger issues that got him temporarily suspended. He also got all anxious during a trip to Japan because he couldn't get his meds. And, yeah, he had no problem talking to the girls.
But he was generally just a nice chill dude.

go look at one of the other 200 threads

>>56958320
He had a constant chip on his shoulder and had self-admitted anger issues. He said he got expelled from high school 3 times in the interview with Flay, even if you're being charitable he's still mentally ill and very likely a sociopath.

he talked to my oshi and that made me feel invalidated so i browse catalog threads to make myself feel better

>>56958529
Less than 2 years left for me!

>>56958320
>Act unhinged and keep a job
Funny underdog
>Act unhinged and lose a job
A Disappointment

It's not complicated and there's no middle ground.

>>56958320
He, as he admitted after his first suspension, has anger issues and can't fuck with people almost half his age trying to boss him around.

>>56958320
He was a brotuber specifically because he was a mentally ill sociopath. Everywhere he's talked about, men would say "he's just like me fr fr". Dude is an absolute menhera.

>>56958733
>I'LL COLLAB WITH YOUR OSHI HEH HEH
>I'LL RAID KIARA YEAH I KNOW IT'LL PISS PEOPLE OFF BUT I DON'T CARE HEH H--ACK!
>nice chill dude
Yeah nah

1. The first red flag was his any% suspension speedrun, which he admitted was because he "lost his temper" at his manager, yet also seemed completely unapologetic about it.

2. Then there was the infamous Japan fiasco. Basically he went to Japan for some reasons (I think it was for his song) and decided not to take his anxiety meds with him because "w-what if they confiscate it at the airport and throw me into prison for drug possession!!", fucking retard. Because he didn't have his meds (gee who could have seen this coming?) went on a complete fucking schizo arc where he locked himself up in his apartment in Japan, ghosted all of Tempiss and missed several group collabs he was clearly scheduled for (including the half-year anniversary). All without explaining anything besides "hurr anxiety hort hurr" and never ever giving an apology for all the collabs he blatantly ghosted. For this board at large it wasn't so significant but for those who actually watched Tempus it was basically the biggest drama and Vesper at the time got so much hate in /MANS/ that his fans literally fled and made their own split. Everyone viewed him as a traitorous, toxic bitch who was destroying the Tempus "unity".

2b. It should be noted that during this time he was still doing several girl collabs, casting strong doubt on how real the whole anxiety/schizo arc was at all. There was a huge and somewhat credible rrat that him and Altare had a huge falling out at the time and he just refused to stream with him. This also led to the YABBA DABBA DOO meme because he would spam girl collabs while pretending to be too "socially exhausted" to collab with his genmates lol.

3. After the YABBA DABBA DOO meme started catching on and he got wind of it, he started constantly trying to antagonize hololive fans or unicorns with "gonna fuck your oshi"-type bullshit, literal Mori tier "I HAVE TO OWN DA HATERZ" bullshit just constantly. He also raided Kiara full well knowing and admitting it would trigger a shitstorm and probably even shitposted about in on this board since we know all these faggots actually lurk this board (proven by Axel).

4. In all likelihood he's a pathological liar and 99% of his stories that made him seem "interesting" are completely made up. It just kept getting more and more unbelievable and even Vespies eventually started coping with "s-so what if it's lies, t-they are roleplaying characters anyway!!"

>>56958320
idk about sociopath but mentally ill yeah and probably not a nice guy once you got past the superficial charm. there's a reason shinri never really idolized him like some of the other boys did, he knew vesper was just a manchild, which I guess vesper's fans like
also he was a serial flake
flaked the half anni, abandoned aniki who never got to offcollab with him and never will now
flaked the first full vg+hq collab
flaked leader's podcast and made him go menhera
flaked vesties multiple times
the list goes on
although the fact that he said he's the only brotuber in tempus means this is probably a shitpost but I already typed this up so im posting it

>>56958320
He literally got suspended for anger issues a few months after debut. He self admitted on debut he allegedly always has problems with coworkers. There was a large amount of time where he avoided collabs with his own genmates due to "low social battery" but happily collabed if Mori threw him a bone. Went to japan for no reason without his meds.
Apparently had some falling out with Altare. Fucked up their half year anniversary and got suspended again and graduated. People don't realize how badly you need to fuck up to be suspended for almost two months and not be allowed to communicate with fans or have a graduation. And NONE of the holos he was friends with even mention him.

>>56959145
>>56959242
>>56959317
I think he just needed more help from Cover, we can't change what have been done so I just hope he is gonna do well in his next job.

>>56958491
>>all his crimes
>didn't commit any crimes
???

Vesties may be okay with Vesper being a compulsive liar but that doesn't make it a good personality trait. Also, if he had just focused on delivering to his fanbase instead of all the shade that got thrown his way, maybe he wouldn't have had that menhera episode and turned out okay. I will concede that Magni may have had a hand in getting both of them to graduate, though. I'm not sure, but I know they were (and still are) close and Dez lost a lot of his drive at some point in his Holostars career. But still, fuck Vesper. There was no need to cause as much trouble as he did for his colleagues and Cover.

>>56959473
oh no he did

>pretended to be Gura to get Free factorio codes
>told his manager to fuck off
>is Laplus' boyfriend and keeps inviting her to Valorant games when she's supposed to stream
>wore a sheet over his head and pretended to be a ghost to scare the shit out of Chloe
>sells Mori her Xanax, lean, alcohol and fastfood
>hacked Rushia's discord during the GTA collab with Miko
>is the Japanese drama tuber that Rushia contacted and lied about her leaking confidential information
>hacked Towa's discord and was the male voice on her stream
>opened the door behind Matsuri and accidentally showed his hand onstream
>is the host that blackmailed Matsuri
>was Mel's manager and sexually harassed her
>fingerbanged Ollie onstream
>set fire to Subaru's house
>orchestrated the trash taste collab
>Connor and Veibae's statements about hololive were written by him
>is the reason for Nene, Laplus and Shion's depressions
>photoshopped Luna out of the holofes poster when nobody was looking
>spoke perfect Cantonese and perfectly impersonated Bae's mother onstream
>keeps spiking Ame's food with bread
>convinced Pekora to buy a monkey
>dug the hole in minecraft
>injected Ina with the vax and gave her heart disease
>broke Luna's neck during the VR horror stream
>ripped a fat shart during Mori's stream
>gave Kronii books about woke gender shit during her childhood
>built Bae's cuckshed
>damaged Suisei and Marine's voices
>is the reason why Aqua, Shion and Ayame barely stream
>sent anti messages to Iofi after the among us collab
>made kobo eat literal shit
>traced Nene's drawing
>forces cover to sell acrylic stands
>drugged Mori right before meme review
>gave Mio food poisoning and made her puke onstream multiple times
>runs the Argentinian central bank and is responsible for ARS superchats
>intercepted Flare, Nene and Irys' initial designs and replaced them with designs he made
>coded the YouTube analytics page to list Taiwan
>is the shadow president of Taiwan
>simultaneously runs the Chinese anti botfarms
>managed HoloCN and is responsible for every bad decision they made causing the entire branch to get fired, including watching wolf warrior onstream
>ordered Russia to invade Ukraine so Russian fans couldn't donate to Botan any longer
>Killed Fauna's cat, Noel's hamster, Sana's dog and Roboco's cat
>told Mori's sister about the airBNB and suggested the "rager"
>fed boner pills to every dude at the houseparty and told them where Gura was hiding, told Mori she was up to "shenanigans"
>added himself as a friend on Gura and Irys' switch accounts
>is singlehandedly responsible for every orange woman bad post, ran the eggcord
>convinced Miko that Pekora would totally enjoy it if she initiated sex with her out of nowhere without asking during their sleepover
>is the CEO of Capcom and caused the holocaust by deciding to copyright strike Mio for playing some decade old DS game, requiring permissions for games ever since (also caused the real holocaust)
>planted the Reine dox pictures in Ollie's image folder
>infected Kanata with her ear disease
>got Choco and Kiara shadowbanned
>told Susan to crack down on lewd content
>tweeted out all the anti tweets that made Huke cancel the Kiara minecraft collab
>Fired Shinove
>Forced Kira, Suzaku and Kaoru to graduate
>Hired Hitomi Chris
>gave Hitom Chris her equipment in return for sexual favors
>Graduated Hitomi Chris
>is Aloe's father
>leaked Aloe's private stream
>pretended to be Nijisanji fans and anti'd her until she graduated
>convinced Ame, Kronii and Ina to Collab with tempus, still trying to convince the rest of EN/JP
>hired Tempus
>hired Mori
>raped every single member of Hololive in front of Yagoo while doing lines of coke off his dick and suckerpunching Sora
>forced Sana to graduate
>wrote the script for Fauna's and Ina's talks to their chats
>told Shiori it would be a good move to set boundaries with chat on her debut
>impregnated Watame's mother and told her she shouldn't have been born
>did 9/11

>>56958320
>he was a nice guy and the only brotuber in Tempus
If he was such a bro why did he constantly flake on so many Tempus collabs?

>>56959100
oh so he was based

>>56958429
>/vt/ incels were jealous he got personal access to the female holos
Imagine getting personal access to the girls, and fucking everything up to the point you leave after a year.

>>56959145
>He also raided Kiara full well knowing and admitting it would trigger a shitstorm
Most likely triggered a management shitstorm since he "stopped all activities" almost immediately after.

>>56959145
Sounds like the male version of Tumblina. When Tumblr was still popular I often heard of mentally ill weirdos like him. All of them were doing strange things for/against their "community". They can't get out of it and be independent.

>>56959145
>>56959145
>decided not to take his anxiety meds with him because "w-what if they confiscate it at the airport and throw me into prison for drug possession!!"
If you're still having anxious thoughts like that, it seems like it was some highly ineffective anxiety medication.

>>56959972
>antagonize the girl who happens to have a personal manager that is both very likely some sort of high-ranking EN branch manager AND also her obedient bitch
What was the next step of his master plan supposed to be??

>>56958320
He was an chudcel let this be a lesson

>>56958320
Hes a 36 year old male /here/ vtuber

>>56960130
>Jenma is the only manager at Cover
Perhaps his manager saw the clips of him saying it?

>>56958320
>social batteries hort
>clockwoman collab? Fuck my genmates time to go pussy swimming!
And
>yeah see that german bitch over there with a ton of gachis she respects enough to not force male collabs?
>I'm gonna raid her and anyone upset including her for my causing drama can kiss my ass
He ad magni were unpersoned a few days after that retarded stunt so clearly someone internally was not impressed with him in the slightest.
Regardless vesper has a track record for selfish impulsive reckless behavior, that is why people dislike him. Every single drama involving tempus is vesper related, the branch is better off without him.

>>56958320
His entire career is founded around presenting himself as a wholesome bro while operating antagonistically and scummy at all opportunities. People who just aren't very skeptical just get pulled in by him really easily when his actions never match up with his words, which are a bunch of really nice sounding nothings.

Vesties themselves are a fanbase filled with pretentious liars that constantly deflect how much he fucks over everyone around him by just calling all his detractors jealous non-watchers when he's on record for talking about his bad behavior and openly planning around pissing people off, when you can find his lies in his video history, and when you can demonstrate ways he fucked over his friends for his own benefit.

It's a classic case of manchildren calling someone based for acting like a manchild.

>>56959145
based lore-sister (non insult)

>>56958320
>brotuber
He's a fraud and liar for starters. He makes up fake stories about "adventures" he went on and "crazy stuff" that happened, but they aren't actually true.
Regarding the mentally ill part, he has anger issues and cannot keep himself from overstepping boundaries. He literally clashed with management and Cover multiple times over his "I don't care, I know I'm not allowed to do x, but I'll do it anyway and deal with the consequences later" attitude.
Lastly, he was evidently only in Hololive to try and get with some of the girls in it, his vastly different behaviour and reactions to female collabs vs male ones showed as much.

He's a horndog and fraud and someone who has no business being in a Japanese corporation.

>>56960287
It's actually kind of impressive how easily he can be summarized by the word "asshole". I feel like that's all it comes down to with him, just being a terrible, antagonistic person.
He could have probably even played the "troubled soul" and "menhera" cards right to charm people if he wasn't so completely unapologetic about his actions.

And as usual, "fanbase reflect oshi", so his fans ended up being the worst pack of shitstains on this board and basically outright hololive antis.

>>56959554
damn, I can't believe he sacrificed that monkey

>>56959145
gz

>>56959469
He will most likely continue to fuck up just like at his previous jobs.

I still can't believe Vesper made Miko rape Pekora

>>56959972
I think that Kiara raid is the reason they forced him to resign, and that Magni genuinely quit,

She was the second worst choice for a male to raid out of all of HoloEN, If he is that retarded publicly, I can't imagine how he was behind scenes. And this is coming from someone that actually found him entertaining.

>>56959691
yeah based on the retard gene

>>56960417
I don't think the really offensive part is him being an asshole. There're plenty of assholes in the scene that get shrugged off, like, Astel is a constant piss disturber that also openly antagonizes people in holostars.

The real issue is his dishonesty. He has a brand that's convinced people he's some honest grass roots indie who came into the dream, when his original channel is boosted as fuck from leeching and he pays for his videos, we know for a fact that he's /wvt/ too so it's very plausible that he's been astroturfing from the beginning. As a holostar he turned a lot of fans against the company over the course of his career when all evidence we have now paints him in the wrong, and the damage has never really healed. Probably the worst thing that Vesties have done is drag Altare, his genmate, through the fucking dirt over their spat.

If he was just an asshole it'd be whatever but he's thoroughly ruined the reputation of Tempus by being dishonest about it.

>>56959145
>4. In all likelihood he's a pathological liar and 99% of his stories that made him seem "interesting" are completely made up. It just kept getting more and more unbelievable and even Vespies eventually started coping with "s-so what if it's lies, t-they are roleplaying characters anyway!!"
i liked ves in the beginning, haven't watched any stars since the suspension speedrun incident and now i am thinking back wondering how much of what made him seem likable was completely made up.
>take one step outside of female vtubers
>turns out to be more menhera than the women

>>56959145
>4. In all likelihood he's a pathological liar and 99% of his stories that made him seem "interesting" are completely made up. It just kept getting more and more unbelievable and even Vespies eventually started coping with "s-so what if it's lies, t-they are roleplaying characters anyway!!"

"Omg he bought a boar spear, he's such a crazy outdoors guy sometimes he just goes out in the woods and lives there for a week hunting wild animals, he's as cool as Les Stroud and a real craftsman"
God that shit is so cringe when you realize how fake his stories are.

>>56959145
finally a good spoonfeed, but why did magni go down with him?

>>56958515
Nah, the qrd is that's borderline what he believed was the case.

Fuck around and find out

>>56960994
NTA and I stopped watching Magni a while back but since Magni didn't actually get into any real drama other than the twitch thing near debut, I assume it's just straight up creative differences/contract stuff where he felt like he could be more successful and do better content as his RM. He kinda stopped doing creative stuff as Magni and ramped up RM activities even before the break.

>>56958320
This is an actual summary >>56959145

>>56960994
They became somewhat close in Tempus for reasons I can't really understand, Magni was basically the only "friend" Vesper had.
Possibly an Enna-Millie esque toxic friendship where one inspired the other to be a worse person? Idk. Magni is very different from Vesper though.
My impression is that Magni didn't really care too much about his Hololive gig and his uncaring attitude after quitting proved that. Vesper for all his faults actually likes vtubing so I'm not sure if their reasons for quitting are the same. Maybe one inspired the other to quit, I could definitely imagine that.

>>56960994
fagni only knows twitch, after getting canned all he did on his rm is play genshin. dude probably legitimately believes that hololive held him down for not letting him do react content or play mihoyo shit, there's a reason he was and always will be a 3view who leeches off of the twitch chink clique

>>56960994
Magni didn't like his model and design from the getgo. He also much preferred hanging out with his twitch circles including that mentally ill woman and others.
Nothing about him was ever really holo idol material, just a mishire.
He'd be much happier in a potential vshonen group on Twitch where he can be half vtuber half himself like kson.

>>56961292
Magni did nothing wrong but he's always hung out with all the absolute worst fucking people in the entire scene and that was enough of a red flag that I'm not surprised how things went down with him. I just kind of expected that he was a problem in the back even though we never got to see it in the open, you don't choose to make friends EXCLUSIVELY with shitty people if you're a good guy you know?

Thanks for all of these greentexts. He's nothing like a brotuber. Just a stupid and childish mentally ill cunt kek

Brotubers must be class in my book. At least all those top Niji JP male vtubers are class and well mannered.

>>56960994
Ironically they're unrelated. Magni wanted out for a while, because he hated his model and the vtuver shtick. All he ever wanted was to fuck Marine and other holos, but when they told him to fuck off, he decided to use hololive as a clout boost and return to rm streaming.

>>56961371
>magni did nothing wrong
dude he wants to be on Saturday night live, just get over it you don't have to support someone because hololive hired them you fucking sheep.

Maybe it's just me but I really dislike the first batch/the first four tempus hires, all for different reasons, while the second batch of 4 don't really bother me.

>Vesper being a horndog, liar and someone who refuses to accept rules
>Magni having a really cancerous circle of twitch friends
>Altare being a complete faggot with the worst voice, from his "come at me bro" speech to his "gotta support thr cause" shit
>Axel being too close with rpr (a douchbag and doxxfag), plus his whole awful nodoka lusting arc

>>56960130
>What was the next step of his master plan supposed to be??
Crashing his career

how long til the rest of them run out of steam and the whole starsEN gets canned?

>>56961570
>asian math teacher looking ass does internet culture videos
oh shit I've had this guy's videos in my recommended without knowing. all asian american guys sound the same

>apply to hololive
>go through months of hiring process, make it in
>one week in realize "oh right, I don't like being a vtuber"

how smart

A real brotuber wouldn't demand a new model, get a new model that's worth thousands of dollars and then just ditch the company.

>>56959100
You have to be drinking a special kind of retard juice to think a viewer raid is a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination.

>>56961781
The second batch isn't much better either. Bettel being a grifter who fucks Froot, and the failed shota. The Vox copycat turned out to be okay, but I hate it whenever he tries to appeal to his coomer femoid audience. Hakka is okay.

>>56962053
The viewer raid isn't the problem, the problem is that he literally said he wanted to do it to piss people off. A lot of Vesper's activities wouldn't be a problem at all if he wasn't openly and explicitly trying to antagonize people.

>>56961781
The Nodoka lust arc was truly fucking awful, a misguided effort to try and quell schizo unicorns and yumejos by appearing interested in a non-talent, when really it just came off as awkward workplace harassment.

>>56962109
Yeah pissing off unicorns is literally a morally good thing.
Each and every one of us should be doing it as much as possible.
Fuck em.

>>56962053
>flooded by thousands of male vtuber fans shouting "VESPER RAID!!!!" in chat for a minute or two
>drawing the attention away
>pushing even more people to beg for collabs in chat and in comments, as if we didn't already have enough of those
>spawns shitty ass cringe fan art like that kiara x vesper comic
>said maybe he shouldn't do it but "ah fuck it they can suck my dick I'll do it anyway" like a little child

yeah

>>56962053
I think the issue is proclaiming that you're doing it to spite DA HATURZ which basically became his career after december

>>56962165
>Oh no, a little memery in the chat for a bit after the raid. Oh no, our poor lil kiwawa will never be able to handle it :(((

Stop infantilizing them you retard

>>56959145
>YABBA DABBA DOO meme
i don't get it

>>56962288
Kill yourself all the way back to /mans/ you retard ass redditor, glad that cancer is gone

>>56959554
LOL the list keeps getting longer every time I see it. I hope we're still discussing this a year from now and it ends up having to be split into two posts.

>>56962053
retard

>>56962288
>Oh no, a little memery in the chat for a bit after the raid. Oh no, our poor lil kiwawa will never be able to handle it :(((
Vesper couldn't handle the consequences of the raid considering he got fired afterwards kek

>>56962161
pissing off unicorns is a morally good thi--ACK
YABBA DABB-ACK
he has a heckin spe-ACK

>>56961371
It's just the crowd he fell into because of his birth. Politically active Asian Americans are rarely good people.

>>56958584
Axel isn't playing FTL, Dwarf Fortress, etc. As a guy I have no interest in Axel's content, whereas I did watch Vesper occasionally if he was streaming something I had interest in (which was most of his gaming streams except World of Warcraft)

>>56962053
>You have to be drinking a special kind of retard juice to think a viewer raid is a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination.
You're right. It resulted in his termination so the raid ended up being a wonderful thing.

>>56962370
Even /MANS/ largely doesn't approve of how Vesper acts. Tempus and their fans have suffered for him more than anyone, far more than any unicorns or girls have.

Everyone fucking blames unicorns but I'm a /stars/fag and the consequences of his actions have been awful for convincing people to give the JP boys a fair shake. There's the whole Overwatch collab bait floating around right now that really shouldn't be anything at all, when a year ago a cross-gender collab was something that'd get a couple shitposts here and there on main generals then get forgotten. The /MANS/fags have it even worse.

>>56962161
>pissing off your best customers is a morally good thing
Ask me how I know you're retarded

>>56959469
It's the same situation as Rushia, short of force-feeding him his meds and having someone babysit him 24/7 making sure he didn't fuck up there is nothing that Cover could have done

>>56962548
That's pretty unfair then because not only was Vesper nothing like the JP stars but actually pretty much most of EN stars aren't. Most notably JP stars are very used to what it means to work with and around the holo girls and how to behave.

>>56961781
Bettel is literally just Magni 2.0
Hakka tried to leech off Holotori
Flayon is a disgusting tranny twink femboy whatever abomination, obnoxious loud zoomer, and basically a Niji reject. God even fucking /MANS/ hates this little faggot

Shinri actually seems like the unironic brotuber people were always asking for, but by now Tempiss reputation has been so torched that only fujos still watch them, and there is zero trust in the idea of a brotuber anymore.

>>56962548
Mori is 90% of the reason this board is shit now

>>56962318
Old pasta would be something like
>please understand, anxiety hort, social battery hort, I cannot collab for TWO MONTHS okay I need rest
>i-i-is that... a g-girl?? A FEMALE???
>YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOO let's collab fast!!

>>56962698
Not that I'm against the idea of actually good brotubers existing in Holopro, but afaik most of the audience of EN stars, correct me if I'm wrong, are also people who watch nijiEN.
If so, would you even say there's a need for Cover to have EN guys? I feel like nijiEN fills that pretty well and anyone who wants that would be happy there, but instead Cover tried to keep up with them by also offering dudes. Except Hololive just isn't about mixed collabs, really, and the majority of people watching it watch it precisely because of the "all girls high school" vibes.

>>56959145
>since we know all these faggots actually lurk this board (proven by Axel).
what's the source? I'm just curious, not a redditor

>>56960612
Who's the first?

>>56962990
Axel once accidentally showed a /mans/ bookmark on stream. Beyond that though this is basically the only option for vtuber discussion online so you can assume everyone is here.

>>56962690
Yeah it's unfair.

There were hololive JP fans who were mad about Mori and all. Think about being a holostars fan who's spent years supporting this tiny branch that's struggled to get respect and support.

I don't even dislike most of the Tempusboys, they're just not for me since I prefer JPs. But then one of them opens up talking about standing on the shoulders of giants, then pisses all over their hard work by respecting absolutely none of the legacy or culture they've built. He gets more popular than your favourites and starts pushing the entire brand's reputation in one direction, meanwhile everyone you've quietly enjoyed is eating strays because of the shit he stirs, and then he drops after eating up budget and you've been left to deal with people shitposting and invading your threads for who knows how long in the future.

I hate Vesper in a way that no unicorns just afraid of their girl having a collab with someone they'll probably never meet maybe across the entire fucking planet will ever understand. I can only make concessions towards the Tempus fans because I know that Altare's reputation has been absolutely shot by Vesper at this point and at least none of my boys were personally sleighted.

Fuck.

>>56963076
For Vesper to have raided the first she would've had to stream

>>56963106
Altare became unlikable all by himself, remember his cringe as hell speech about taking on some dude in chat in the most "1v1 me outside dude" way?

>>56960612
That is plausible, kiara is near untouchable level within holoEN. She basicaly is gura owner, calli fell so guilty toward her that she will do anything she ask, Ame, well kiara is probably the only one who still tolerate her so once again she is her bitch. Also friendly remember she is the one who thrashed omega the most, who happen to be high management position and for some reason the one disapearing was that faggot. She also have strong link with subaru, marine, even pekora. Starting shit with her would be worse than starting shit with Enna for nijisanji equivalent, well the difference is that she won't start shit on her own unprovoqued accord.
She have a lot in common with unicorn actually on that point. They don't create issue as long as you don't provoque them, and hold so much power you can't ever win against them.
And that faggot litteraly kicked two horn nest at the same time.

>>56963186
calculated

>>56963186
Gura doesn't have raids enabled. Kiara had raids enabled for everyone ever since the youtube music weekend.

>>56962866
I truly have no idea about what the Tempus fanbase at large looks like, no doubt there is overlap with Nijitrash on twitter and reddit. But as for the fanbase /here/ specfifically... It's literally all fujos. Like actual fujos addicted to yaoi, not just any female. NijiEN fans by contrast are what is called "yumejos" which is basically the equivalent of goslings, ie they self-insert as the guys partner.

I think it's because Tempus had a huge focus on unity and being "bros" to each other, whereas NijiEN mostly just did their random mass collab garbage which included girls.
That's also why Vesper got so much hate for ghosting the big collabs.

>>56963094
you've actually reminded me, that i've seen that exact screencap. Thanks!

>>56962165
>>56962423
>>56962538
That's right, we hate Hololive here. Tell him, sisters.

>>56962606
Unicorns send a lot of superchats but SCs aren't anything close to the biggest money-maker in vtubing. They're more trouble than they're worth, at least in the cases where the girl doesn't actually want them (which is most of them).

>>56960994
Magni wanted a way out long ago, probably soon after debut actually, just after the collab after his racist twitch thot if you want a pinpoint.
And he fell a strong friendship for some reason with vesper. (though with their personalities it may not long last, you can save that)
Basicaly he got the ticked out he wanted with his buddy.

>>56963314
Gotcha, I guess there's a demand for guys to just be bros and not everyone who likes male vtubers wants them to be like the niji dudes.

>>56963410
Bring back the word gachikoi.

>>56959100
Wonder why no one has posted a trannyjak ack-ing edit of vesper yet

>>56958429
>>56958912
>>56959554
>>56962161
Posts like this make me glad he's graduated. I want to piss on his grave. Stars fags are anti hololive. I hope they all graduate.

I don't like idol culture OR unicorns but when you join a japanese company that follows that model and get canned for stirring shit up, you only have yourself to blame

>>56963410
If holo girls don't want them, why don't more of them just collab with guys every few months to get rid of them?
Only a handful of holos collab with guys. The majority doesn't.

>>56963250
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DohMJm2JCl8&t=3205

>>56963410
True, they are around 30%, 30% are gacchi, 30% are CGDCT, all those 3 group will desire the same type of content. Unicorn alone aren't that big, though 30% is still quite a huge leverage, but in total 90% will share their ideal type of content, so seethe more homofaggot.

>>56963094
there's the farms too but those are almost an extension of /here/ with less unicorns

>>56961165
>kfp telling him to fuck off after raiding kiara

>>56963605
VA doesn't have one tenth the influence this place does

ITT: schizos being schizos. He had tons of issues but you have even more. He probably got in trouble for background shit we'll never know about.

>>56963551
Christ that's just hard to listen to, this guy is a joke.

>>56963410
>Unicorns send a lot of superchats
Unicorns and gachis also buy a lot of merch.
>They're more trouble than they're worth
Kek. Imagine thinking your top paypigs are more trouble then they're worth. Hell, imagine thinking your top paypigs are trouble at all. Don't collab with males? Oh no, what an incredibly difficult rule to follow.

>>56962776
>Old pasta
*Cuckpost stolen from DBZ spic memes

>>56960380
I don’t believe all his stories either but anytime a vtuber says something I hear “she/he” said it herself so that means it’s true! There’s a double standard but I don’t believe anything a vtuber tells me personally.

>>56958320
he was cool, but profoundly mentally unwell on a level comparable to rushia.

>>56962538
>terminated
You honestly don't know what that term even entails

>>56963707
I mean, yeah? Given we already knew he was at odds with management and unable to follow rules and adapt to the environment, obviously that continued and he just couldn't stop being a fucking troublemaker.
I can only imagine how he tried to DM holo girls on Discord despite them not wanting that.

>>56961281
He isn’t even relevant enough to leech off that clique though

>OP asks about Vesper
>thread is too busy discussing gachikoi
???

>>56963768
It entails Vesper got fired which is exactly what happened.

>>56963843
Why is Stars fighting with management bad, while HoloEN fighting with management good?

>>56963765
I actually believe all his stories. I'm about his age and my life was way more eventful than his so I don't think they're implausible. I still think he's a lying grifter regardless because it's really evident that he doesn't know anything about computers or tabletop games to anyone familiar with the topics. Not to mention the usual shit about "you live and die by your solo content" and the anxiety sagas.

Going from liking Vesper to disliking him is a process about finding one hole and then wondrering what else he could possibly be wrong about that you just don't know enough to see through.

>>56962109
no he didn't. meds

Vesper did nothing wrong. Haters just want to see a brother fall for their own enjoyment

>>56963882
Sister and vestiesfag deflecting, what did you expect.

>>56963765
The reason for that is that most normal people don't go around telling lies constantly which is why people believe their word. And IF they do lie casually it's going to become apparent very quickly... which is exactly what happened with Vesper. There are always schizos who will proofcheck everything a chuuba says. So if there's no proof, chances are they just don't lie.

On the girl side only Mori is a holo who is known for lying, although not even close to the degree of Vesper.

>>56963929
Which voice told you that one?

>>56963946
HoloEN is fighting over stuff like game permissions or karaoke, Vesper was fighting over "I'll dm any girl I want to" or "I'll bring up any holo girl on stream I want to and raid her, I don't care"

>>56964005
>And IF they do lie casually it's going to become apparent very quickly... which is exactly what happened with Vesper.
???

>>56963946
Because Holo EN fights with management for good reasons. Like when Gura fought them to get her daki produced.

>>56964031
>HoloEN is fighting over stuff like game permissions or karaoke, Vesper was fighting over "I'll dm any girl I want to" or "I'll bring up any holo girl on stream I want to and raid her, I don't care"
You sisters are so fucking dumb.

>>56964135
Great argument, tumor.

>>56964160
Great made up argument, sis.

>>56963946
>HoloEN fights for music, concerts, merch, anything to deliver a better fan experience
>Stars fight for being allowed to collab with twitch grifters
Gee I wonder..

I don't see the reason for speculating because if Vesper is this menhera he's just gonna get groomed by his fans following his RM into spilling the beans about what actually happened when he does start streaming again.
Magni I'm not so sure, but he might do the same just to chase some clout and get 5 more minutes of fame

>>56964212
Get terminated like your crappy horndog of an oshi.

>>56964008
>Which voice told you that one?
The one that governs logic. Vesper had his schedule for the week planned out and was talking about the future when he was suddenly unpersoned. Only a complete idiot like (You) would be unable to put 2 + 2 together and realize he was abruptly fired.

>>56964256
Learn to read first, retard.

>>56964337
>abruptly
After 9 weeks?

>>56964394
His "suspension" was a termination. Cover simply waited 9 weeks to announce his departure.

>>56958607
stop projecting homobeggar

>>56964359
It was a termination in all but name in Vesper's case. Cover doesn't want to use the word termination unless they absolutely have to like with Rushia. With Vesper though both wanted to end it and Cover was glad to get rid of someone who causes nothing but trouble.

>>56964473
>>56964491
>It was revealed to me in a dream because I love Holostars more than the biggest homofag sister

>>56964337
It feels like absolutely nobody believes the termination rrat anymore, it's honestly bizarre. The whole handling of this incident stinks to high-heaven yet when I made a thread earlier today about how Cover probably covered up the termination, retards actually thought I was a homobeggar just because they all have "Cover dindunuffin wrong" brainrot

>>56963528
Because they want to have their cake and eat it too. Best believe that if it were profitable, half of the EN that are praised for "CGDCT" content (plus probsbly 2/3 of ID) would happily parade their BFs around. One of them in particular has been doing her absolute best to bottle up the sheer contempt she has for unicorns but it slips through the cracks here and there.

>>56964558
>It was revealed to me in a dream because I love Holostars more than the biggest homofag sister
Yes Anon, you're too stupid to deduce the obvious. I know.

>>56959554
>>56959473
>>56958320

His only crime was what he admitted in a stream; he has anger issues and hasn't dealt well with them, which earned him his first suspension, and it's very likely to be related to his graduation. His other crime was disappearing and leaving his fans in uncertainty (he's like Gura, he likes ghosting people); that was a recurring mistake, by the way.
I don't believe Vesper was a bad person, but he had issues and was taking medication to manage his anxiety and mental problems, we know that.
In the end, there's no excuse; the Hololive girls also have to deal with poor management, but you don't see them quitting just for that reason.
I want to believe Vesper tried to make this work, but in the end, he let down his gen mates and the fans who were willing to follow him (I guess they still are) forgiving mistake after mistake

it's sad because he was fun to listen to.
now about Magni, he's just an egomaniac, a clout chaser, and an egocentric whore, I knew that from day one (and a huge liar, He was obsessed with numbers, despite constantly pretending that he didn't care.)

>>56964491
>See rushia now
Yeah I think even cover know how much backlash you can get from "termination" and cover is being nice right now not wanting to see another rushia case

>>56964667
>They're more trouble than they're worth
So which one is it? Are they more trouble than they're worth or not?

>>56964633
>Cover probably covered up the termination
I think Cover just wanted to soften the blow to homosisters. Fire him but call it "halting his activities for awhile", wait 9 weeks, then drop the announcement that in actuality he's gone.

>>56963946
>Girls
Until Advent they had to work hard to get special events going and in general didn't get the support they needed for a long time. With council you could see how badly they got fucked over by Management's vision, going so far as to shoot down stream ideas and content because would interfere with management's vision for the girls. We didn't see signs of this behind the scenes struggle properly until well after the issues had happened.
>Guys
Got a bunch of preferential treatment from management immediately, more assets going into their debuts, events prearranged, already had candidates for gen 2, got granted permissions for collabs and games that the girls were fighting over for years, the CEO was glowing them up constantly even after Vesper's yab, access to the studio within half a year, two members got overhauls greenlit not long after debut while IRyS had to wait much longer before they even put the request in for her. They would bitch about shit constantly though and ever since the boys debuted perms and bonks have been on the forefront of Holo discussion as a show of how entitled they are.

>>56958320
His problem is he tried and in some cases succeeded in out autisticing the autistic mongoloids that make up the fanbase. There's a near palpable amount of mental illness in the audience, Chris-chan levels of sperg, and successful vtubers realize these people are nothing and will never be anything and ignore them. You have a lucrative career streaming video games as an anime character, why do you care about these screeching nobodies so much? Giving them any attention at all is a win for them because their greatest achievement in life was being the fasted sperm to the egg. He doesn't have what it takes to have an audience above a few hundred people, dude gets oneguy'd effortlessly.

>>56964917
Both sides wanted to end it at this point so you might call it a graduation but in a way it's also a termination. Just not one that's completely against the talent's will (unlike how it was with Rushia who would have killed to be able to stay)

>>56959469
>>56962677
I Rushia case i'm with you because she was a gigapopular most superchatted holo with a cute and original design and part of the most popular gen with multiple sponsors ahead.
If i was Yagoo i would hired a literal tardwangler who babysit her 24/7 and manage all her socials. But was too late.
Vesper was a 3view faggot who can't offer nothing but problems and unlike Rushia actively antagonized hololive fans and other Tempus fans. So better give him the boot.

>>56964917
Yeah covering up a termination does Cover no good since it lets people speculate when everyone immediately turned on Rushia after Cover announced her NDA breaking.

>>56964719
Erm....proofs, my good sir? *Tips fedora at your wisdom*

>>56958320
>why you are all according to the fact he's some kind of mentally ill sociopath?
That shit's just hyperbole. Stars failed because western culture is shit. No other reason. You can blame a dozen people but it all comes back to the fact our culture is broken.

>>56964984
>Both sides wanted to end it
I don't think so. Vesper was busy doing shit when he suddenly got terminated. There were no signs he was planning on leaving. And the fact he'll have no graduation stream indicates that whatever happened wasn't amicable. Cover and Sana mutually agreed to part ways and they let her have a bunch of goodbye collabs and a proper graduation. But with Vesper it's just "adios, fucker".

>>56962141
Dont look at the reddit post about nodoka that was posted today i think. Majority of messages contains Axel... How they cant realise that a big part of not collabing with males is due to themselves, the audience, because the woman will be reduced to a doll for the man to play with in their eyes

>>56958799
>He had a constant chip on his shoulder and had self-admitted anger issues. He said he got expelled from high school 3 times in the interview with Flay, even if you're being charitable he's still mentally ill and very likely a sociopath.
Anon that is your average Piece of Crap, a PoC if you will. If this guy is mentally ill to you, high functioning by PoC standards, then so is much of the world. Which is terrifying if you think about it.

>>56965305
To be fair he's enough of an impulsive bitch to actually just ragequit spontaneously over some issue.

>>56965270
then why did JP stars fail?

>>56959145
based truth speaker

>>56965397
>then why did JP stars fail?
Did they? Four years and some change, three gens, three graduations, and a fourth gen on the way.

>>56965305
He kept on ignoring rules and refused to listen to management, eventually going "let me do what I want or I won't stream anymore"

>>56965522
>eventually going "let me do what I want or I won't stream anymore"
There's maybe two talents that can get away with that and none of them are stars.

>>56965668
Well yeah, Cover isn't going to risk all that shit and damage some of the girls for the sake of a single EN star

>>56958320
>brotuber
I bro doesn't threat you with fucking your wife.
I was on his side until he started antagonizing the unicorns and just made the war with the homobeggars worse.

>>56965397
They were handled poorly at the beginning and have had to slowly climb up. I don't think Cover is a black company like some people do but they're not the most competent and had a lot of failures early on even in what eventually became Hololive. The first "gen" of Holostars were rolled out in two waves awkwardly without much traction behind them. Keep in mind that Hololive didn't actually get their first big blow up until roughly gen 3 and the earliest Stars preceded that by a little bit, they didn't even have the hype of being "male hololives" behind them. There was no coordination or push behind them and no reason to watch them over Nijisanjis.

Like hololives first two gens, the early contracts were with no names that had no real expectations, strategies and minimal support. They're doing a lot better nowadays, enough that they earn real money despite comparing poorly to hololive, but for a long time they didn't really have projects or merchandise to their name.

Gen 3 was around the time that things started to change for them despite the situation with Kaoru, and then Roberu among others started to grow a fanbase.

>>56965858
Antagonizing unicorns is always a bad idea. Imagine the meanest horse you've ever seen. Now imagine it's armed.

>>56960120
There's more logic to it than might seem at first glance. When you travel to Japan you need to declare to the embassy any medication you're gonna bring ahead of time, else you risk getting in legaj trouble. My buddy had to do it with his ADHD meds when he went to Japan for work last year. They're very strict about these things.

However this just means that Vesper didn't know or bother to get permission to bring his meds ahead of time.

>>56964633
The termination rrat immediately dies when you just look at Rushia who was an is exponentially more popular and valuable to Cover than the entire Stars brach combined will ever be.
Not only did they make it crystal clear that she was being FIRED and not quitting, but they ripped the bandaid off. They did it right before Holofes (which was a much bigger deal than Advent) and to the point where the program itself had to be altered and they couldn't even fully unperson her. The only reason it didn't completely drag the whole show down was that ID hard carried out of nowhere.

Meanwhile, the verbiage on this graduation lines up perfectly with a contract dispute. The talents officially went on "hiatus" meaning at that point the contracts expired and they legally couldn't use their accounts any more. Things were never outright "canceled", but "postponed"; meaning negotiations were happening, and there was the hope that they returned. Finally, they aren't "terminated" but "graduating". No Farewell stream because there is no active contract to stream from. They were also very clear that this was the talents' choice.

>but Sana-
Sana likely decided to quit early on. Probably as soon as the "dog died" break. There was plenty of time to organize a farewell. The boys probably didn't plan on quitting until they saw the new contract, which they found objectionable for whatever reason.

If there is one thing I can say about Cover, it's that they've been consistently transparent about exactly what's happening to their departing talents.

>>56966023
>>56965508
OK but is that a JP audience or is that a saviorfag audience from the west?

>>56966286
Transparent except to other talents, I remember Mori flipped her shit when Rushia was terminated and had to be educated with everyone else

>>56963504

just remember, when you donate to your oshi with your heartfelt message, shes getting dicked down after stream by someone more attractive than you.

seethe harder virgin

>>56966474
I'm always curious by this kind of comment, do you really think people aren't aware of that? What do you think the point of playing a character is?

>>56958320
>brotuber
homosexual

>>56966474
>uses virgin as an insult because she got railed by her dad's chainsmoking friend in highschool
>will never secure a man

>>56959972
The funny part is Kiara barely knows who he is. Or was.

>>56966322
>OK but is that a JP audience or is that a saviorfag audience from the west?
Holostars EN would have done 500% better if they had cultivated an audience of fujoshi-like lonely women. Instead there was a push for a coed environment and it backfired. Unicorns will not be tamed. They'll die first.

>>56966439
That's workplace business 101 though. Management isn't supposed to share disciplinary action with other employees unless it's really severe, as in affects everyone's safety. Personal confidentiality and all that.

>>56966474
>virgin
You are using that as an insult while defending a self proclaimed wizard.
If I was him I wouldn't want you on my side.

>>56958320
as a SWE, this was likely his job before he got into vtubing.
tell me this wouldn't drive you mental or only attract mental people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OnoxKotPQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o7qjN3KF8U

>>56966474
>hates virgins
>comes to 4chan, kingdom of virgins
>enters its vtuber board, which discusses an industry that is made possible by virgins
Why do you surround yourself with people you hate?

I watched Vesper alot in the beginning but there's alot of stories that you have to either think are lies, or reveal how much of a socially inept and deliberately malicious person he is.
He gets stabbed, gets into fights, gets blackout drunk, ghosts his friends during a hurricane and just flat out leaves his office job out of frustration.

>>56965302
based

>>56967084
>and just flat out leaves his office job out of frustration
That's the most realistic and understandable one there though.

>>56963946
Neither are good. The girls tend to blame management for things when 9 out of 10 times it's just them being lazy. Both stem from entitlement.

>>56966883
we need revision controller for programmers: every programmer under the age of 40 needs to be put up against a wall and shot, we have to try again.

>>56967084
...but he also has social anxiety and becomes a shut-in without his meds. Yeah right. God I hate that lying rat.

>>56959145
t. threadreader

Vesper is just lazy and don't want to sing or do 3D. He just wants to be pay for playing videogames online. Also the only reason he do a collab adter the "anxiety thing" is probably because Magni dragged his ass.

>>56966474
I pay for the illusion you fucking asshole.

He confessed his anger issues on stream, and his first suspension was because of it, maybe his mental issues (he had anxiety and he's very antisocial) have something to do with his graduation.
Also, he often vanished like Gura, leaving fans uncertain—a recurring error

>>56967084
the fight stuff is funny but yeah avoiding getting into fights with random people is very easy. it is especially weird for a guy that supposedly lived a rough and tumble frat boy lifestyle far into his late 20s he never got laid, since he clearly has no shortage of moments of lapses of judgement.
>>56967251
that I believe though. people who medicate for social anxiety with drinking are common.

>>56959554
unfathomably based. I hope this survives his graduation and that we can only add to it as his antics continue.

>>56959145
and yet vespies still love him... daddy issues is a hell of a thing

>>56959145
jezas

>>56967439
The guy you're replying to is not smart enough to understand that Anon. He's probably also a tourist. If you stick around here long enough you will eventually accrue enough forbidden knowledge to realize you're paying for a masquerade. Trying to find out what's under the anime mask is going to do one of two things:
1) It turns you into a stalker that the performer would be justifiably afraid of.
2) It breaks your heart because she might actually have a life.
Unicorns stop two steps before that. They don't want to know, they don't care to know, and if they're actually gachikoi they might actually have enough respect for the subject of their affection to stay out of the performer's personal life unless they are somehow miraculously noticed and invited into it. That last part of the illusion to, bordering heavily on delusion, but still a part of it.

>>56967474
I don't really believe the anxiety stuff is real, it just seemed like an excuse to get out of collabs at the time and to be a little bitch hiding from Axel while in Japan.
The fact that he collabed with girls at the time with ZERO fucking issues and clearly never showing any nervousness, completely blows this apart.

On a side note I really don't think Magni (a bonafide clout-chasing twitch rat) could have bonded with Vesper as much as he did if Vesper truly was this schizo mental wreck he claims to be. More than likely he's just an asshole and they bonded over the fact that they're both entitled divas who hated their job.

>>56959145
best summary so far

Did he at least get to fuck anyone? A huge waste if he didn't

>>56967661
>That last part of the illusion to
*That last bit is a part of the illusion too
I had some kind of stroke typing that. Sorry.

>>56962990
There is a screencap, they were playing Project Zomboid and for some reason, you could see Axel's desktop screen at some point and yeah... he was lurking /vt/
I didn't save it but surely someone can share it

>>56958429
Yeah and now the cretin is gone, cry about it more

>>56962990
>>56967816
They're all here man. I'm sorry. I know you don't want to think this place is where professional entertainers would go to get feedback, but it is. There is nowhere else you can get raw unfiltered ideas from weeaboos. Every other website is censored by speech police.

>>56963504
>Stars fags are anti hololive
this but unironically, not Stars fans, some of them are alright, but Tempus fans are awful, I thought you guys were kidding but they actually use every excuse they have to shit on Hololive, and now that Magni and Vesper are not part of Holostars they can go all in and anti like schizos

>>56968043
We know that, but there are cases where chuubas avoid these places for anxiety reasons, to avoid extreme toxicity.

>>56967865
I don't even watch him lol.

>>56967661
2 ought to happen far more often. Majority of folks involved would be better off if they simply treated these people as voice actors and carried on with their lives.

>>56968159
>there are cases where chuubas avoid these places for anxiety reasons, to avoid extreme toxicity.
Oh we're worse than toxic, we're caustic. Based, even.

>>56960857
Menhera male vtubers aren't really surprising to me, specifically EN. At least in Japan vtubing is a cultural juggernaut and the top-shelf professional/corporate side of the industry is treated seriously .

The kind of guy who would become a full-on Western EN vtuber would probably lean towards having notable issues under the hood.

His suspension where while it's understandable he made a mistake, the problem after was zero communication several weeks after suspension. Then for some reason he was in Japan, but didn't bring his meds. Axel reaches out to him to do an off collab because he is also in Japan. Hard ghosted. 6 month anniversary? Ghosted. VG debut. Ghosted. Altare's podcast? Also ghosted. And every time he yabbed his fans would try to throw anyone else under the bus to deflect from him and they got so obnoxious that they fucked off for a while.

>I feel bad, but not enough to change my behavior
This is Vesper in a nutshell. Magni in the end was a grifter, but Vesper shouldn't be forgiven.

>>56963551
Based. Blue faggot is a black belt in Taekwondo and im sure he can sleep any fat loser faggot in this thread with a kick. You guys need a gun to kill this gfe gook kickboxer.

>>56958320
Not a sociopath but he lies a lot. Probably to make himself seem more interesting. The lies are harmless but they're obvious

>>56968405
>2 ought to happen far more often
It would if more of the girls actually did have a life. The most popular girls are the ones that are autistic, have never touched a man, and will probably be forever alone unless they snatch a husband from the braying crowd of lonely men.

>>56969253
>Blue faggot is a black belt in Taekwondo
Black belt in "somebody went into horse stance right next to me so now I can't do shit"

After that stunt he pulled on the Japan trip by pretending to be eating moldy burgers and claimed to be sick is when I stopped caring about him

>>56958429
and /vt/ incels won KEK.

>>56962083
>spic is the least bad one
every time

>>56962083
Machina at least actually likes Holostars so he knows what he got himself into. Hopefully he will get better over time. The potential is definitely there, but he has to learn how to appeal to an audience better and learn how to check himself a bit more.

>>56958320
Unitroons are still seething over Kronii laughing a year ago. And it wasn't even him that made her laugh KEK

>>56970487
qrd?

>>56963106
I really had hope for EN Stars... I just wanted the kind of energy the JP Stars had together, shit like this performance right here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE07d76xuWM

>>56965270
>culture is broken.
Japanese culture is weak and effeminate, that's the only reason male vtubers work over there
No self-respecting male would stream as an anime faggot

>>56970869
DBD collab with Mori, Vesper, Altare, Kronii, and Bae. Mori makes Kronii laugh harder than she ever has in all female collabs. Meltdown ensues

>>56970869
She was bouncing on that cock while laughing

>>56969497
Why would they go into horse stance? Calli wont be there.

>>56970487
>And it wasn't even him that made her laugh
they only saw the title then emotions took over and didn't watch the clip

>>56966474
wrong

>>56971836
idk anon FWW is more attractive than me at least

>>56971627
lol

>>56970033
What did the /vt/ incels win?

>>56958320
i don't like colored folk

>>56962866
The only way Cover can debut a male vtuber that breaks boundaries and finds success is if they hire an unironic "bro"tuber who doesn't appeal to female viewers at all.

In other words, what they need to hire is a black guy who plays Madden and 2K and says nigger a lot.

>>56963272
Holy ESL

>>56966474
I don't superchat or buy merch and I watch them purely for entertainment. What now?

>>56976023
I will do it. I will save homostars

You know, I'm not sure what the problem with a "raid" is on a streaming platform. I'm used to it being a good thing?

>>56975274
another battle

>>56971494
>anime faggot
Where do you think you are, trannychama?

>>56959554
Don’t forget the time he sent Mori condom money.

>>56958320
>Can I have a qrd
no

>>56958320

>>56971497
https://youtu.be/VYhvbVDtkKI?si=BYvcM4Ogu2q5xE5s
Altare made her laugh and it over something really silly.

>>56958320

>>56978717
So nothing

>>56975485
Vesper is the whitest Tempus

>>56973368
Cute art

>>56993087
he's literally a quadroon

Didn't know he "raided" kiara and just watched the clip but is EN really this fucking stupid and childish? This mentally ill manchild clown totally deserves the termination but western viewers also seem to be uneducated children. Can't belive it. No wonder EN is becoming irrelevant. Its nowhere near an entertainment.

>>56984105
>>56971497
when I see losers sperg over stuff like this I assume they're having flashbacks to their highschool crushes laughing at the more attractive guy in class

in a way I can understand how painful that is, although it doesn't make it any less pathetic

>>56959819
>fucking everything up to the point you leave after a year.
Knocking everyone up is more like it.

Pretty much dropped him after termination speedrun and menhera arc. Real bros don't leave your other bros like that. Also the irony, the young ones are more level headed than older ones.

>>56958733
>He also got all anxious during a trip to Japan because he couldn't get his meds
What was he doing in Japan? Did this retard really think he could waltz into Cover HQ 2 months after joining?

>>56966474
You sisters are hilarious. Keep coming back please.

>>56958320
His Japan breakdown arc speaks for itself.
He clearly lied all the time which is evident with his PC building stream.
He hates all his genmates except mag.
He was only in hololive to get pussy.

>>56976023
I'd watch it.
Needs Toriyama to do the model art because black people live dbz

>>56978563
In principle it's a good thing. It's just a faux pas here because Kiara had a pretty direct "does not collab with males" stance, so him sending his fans her way "feels like" a breach of that principle.
In reality, there's a zero percent chance Kiara actually gave a shit, but she knows she'll get harassed by Unicorns if she doesn't at least act covertly offended.

>>56959554
>Russia to invade Ukraine so Russian fans couldn't donate to Botan any longer
wait, did this happen? Not Vesper's involvement but did the Russians really stop?

>>56959062
>half his age
He's only like 37, is cover really hiring 22 year olds right out of college to be managers?

>>56976023
Snoop Dogg Vtuber when?

>>57002033
Really? I mean really? It's just recognised as interference in the jp industry. Might be a thing on Twitch and among such "circles" but from what I know shit like this isnt a hololive standard except for some special big collab event

>>57002664
It hasn't been a Hololive standard because Hololive used to not be on Twitch at all, and Youtube only implemented Raids pretty recently.

>>56976023
The first thing cover needs to do is hire someone competent when it comes to drawing men. Then just make 4 shoujo mcs, from Zen to the guy from a sign of affection, and sell lonely women the boyfriend experience.

No memesters, no menheras, just handsome mentally stable men you can come home to and talk to about your day at work. Makura no danshi but vtubing.

>>56976696
I've noticed that unicorns are disproportionately ESL. It seems that both homobeggars and homoantis are from the same kinds of countries.

>>57002932
Do you really watch Hololive? Is raiding some holomen seriously entertaining her viewers on a stream normal? Since when? Who does it ? In jp it's never happened. Is it an EN thing?

>>57003193
> Is raiding some holomen seriously entertaining her viewers on a stream normal?
No, because, again, Hololive is a principally youtube-based network, and Youtube only added the *ability* to raid a year ago. So it makes sense that most Hololive members would never have done it before, and probably would be still feeling out the etiquette on when it's okay to do it.
On Twitch, it's an extremely normal thing to do, even by/to people who have never met each other.
> Since when?
It might get more normalized as more hololive members discover its functionality, or it might not.
> Who does it?
I have actually seen some of the EN girls do it once or twice, but again: see above.
> In jp it's never happened.
See above.
> Is it an EN thing?
See above.

Also, take your meds, you type like you're having a panic attack.

>>57002046
Even if they aren't meat cubes yet the ruble is worth so little you may as well be sending ARS supechats.

>>56958491
>Cucks on kronies
That's it, and that was pretty massive.

>>57003047
>the mentally ill are from islands with a high amount of untreated mentally ills
Seems about right

>>56964667
>One of them in particular has been doing her absolute best to bottle up the sheer contempt she has for unicorns but it slips through the cracks here and there.
I have no idea who you're talking about since all of the girls have been openly contemptuous since achieving success.

>>57004072
I'm guessing they mean Mori, since she's too much of a stubborn bitch (not necessarily saying that with a negative inflection) to placate unicorns.

>>56959554
>pretended to be Gura to get Free factorio codes
This is my favorite part of the list.

>>56967665
Yeah I'm willing to believe the anxiety/meds stuff was just an excuse to avoid collabing. But did you mean to say Altare instead of Axel? I know about the rrats that Vesper and Altare had a falling out, but this is the first I've heard about him avoiding Axel specifically.

>>57004883
no, it was axel he was avoiding in japan. I remember because that was when tempus fans were getting annoyed that he was ruining the unity thing they had going at the time

>>56969154
Sound like the classic anon, ghosting all his responsibilities because of assburger.

>>56959554
The
>also caused the real holocaust
is the best part man it's so well done

>>56969154
>every time he yabbed his fans would try to throw anyone else under the bus
I hated this part so much. I have never seen a fanbase as parasocial since the fandead and somehow it being men for a man only made it so much worse than most cases. They'd shit on everyone to defend Vesper and then call you a sister if it involved another holostar or a unicorn if it involved a hololive.

>>56959145
What's this I hear about a burger stream

>>57004277
It's the only part that really happened.

>>56959554
>pretended to be Gura to get Free factorio codes
Qrd?

>>56963272
holy fucking esl but, yeah, that's pretty spot on.

>>57008306
once gure said that someone impersonated her to get a free game or something like that

>>57004883
>Yeah I'm willing to believe the anxiety/meds stuff was just an excuse to avoid collabing.
How could you be so sheltered? The meds that he didn't want to bring with himself to Japan was pot. He was miserable in Japan because of the withdrawal symptoms.

>>57008423
kek

>>57006744
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmVUDiukn9w
Weird to 'avoid him' but also have a 2+ hour drinking and chatting stream with him, threadreaderchama

>>56959242
> There's a reason Shinri never really idolized him like some of the other boys did
based if truth, I've only heard good things about him, I would watch him but I don't care about the homos

>>56960612
>She was the second worst choice for a male to raid out of all of HoloEN
If that raid was the reason, it was much more likely just him breaking some unspoken rule rather than being about Kiara specifically. She was never as highstrung about Tempus existing as some others, who pretended they don't exist. She just didn't care about them at that was the end of it. At worst she'd have asked it doesn't happen again, simply because some of her KFPs could be bothered by it (no one was at the time anyway).

>>56958320
You never watched him, homobeggar troon, that's why he left
And now no one watches or cares about him so stop beating the dead horse
Also, daily reminder that ywnbaw and to contribute to the 43%

>>56962053
Raiding a woman with the intent to steal her viewers(children) for himself is literal virtual rape. Women are valued IRL for their ability to carry children, women in Vtubing are valued for their ability to carry viewers. For a man to insert himself into her stream without permission is violation by every definition of the word.

>>56958320
The qrd is that /vt/ is mentally ill and projects its collective fault onto all chuubas, and especially piles the self loathing into make chuubas. They have no basis for their faggotry, they just insist on being as bad as the zhang plague from the chinkout days.

>>56966097
>Antagonizing unicorns is always a bad idea. Imagine the meanest horse you've ever seen. Now imagine it's armed.
cringe

>>56959554
I freaking knew it was him!!! He is the one true yabber, the god of yabs!!

>>56964743
>graduation
I checked the wiki and it really has a date for retirement now, when was this announced? I want to check the archives
If you have a link for a thread I please give me, I haven't had enough time to watch vtubers in general so I am out of the loop

>>57014386
>cringe
Spoken like a cityfag. Horse similes too far out of your concrete hive?

>>56959554
Can we add a "DDOS'd the SPWN servers causing the concert to get postponed"

You are thirty-something years old, probably grew up on the internet. You don't really like dancing, singing and all other cutesy shit but you still decide to join corpo that is full of things you don't like. Why? And why couldn't he just ignore "haterz"? What was there to gain from triggering them? Upvotes?

>>57019272
You don't have to be from the countryside to know that a horse can kill you.

>>57013700
stop crying sister

>>56960612
Maybe the raid caused the management to talk to him then he chimped out at them yet again, so they decided to fire him

>>56958736
MORE

>>56965522
>I want to be completely free of any rules so i will join a company
>I also don't like idol shit so i will join a company that tries to sell idol shit
Can't you see how this makes Vesper look like a retard.

I think Vesper unironically got in jail for sexual harassment. It just feels right.

>>56958320
>why you are all according to the fact he's some kind of mentally ill sociopath?
What made you come to that conclusion?

>>56958320
If any of you trannies is hungry for rrats and want to hatewatch both of these clowns
>USE STREAMLINK
or
(while HAVING Ublock origin with all the filters enabled)
>yt-dlp --cookies-from-browser <browser> --get-url https://www.twitch.tv/randonchannel
to get the .m3u8 link you can then play in a usable media player
>yt-dlp --cookies-from-browser <browser> --get-url <VOD link similar to https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1234567890 >
to get the VOD master link and do the same AFTER the stream (or download the stream)
Don't enable them by giving them watch and money due to ads
They want that

>>56959554
Based retard

>>56960994
who nose?